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[QUOTE=IndianManGood; 1485399]Are you some kind of nut?

My Indian in me tells me free is a whole lot of lying going on.[/QUOTE]Its not necessary Indian in you is always right. Even I am Indian and I had few one night stands in BKK. But funny part is when I tell them that I am an Indian they don't believe me. I am writing down few of the answer I have got when I ask them why they think I am not Indian.

1. My skin in fair. Most of the Thai people think Indian are suppose to be dark skinned.

2. That is really funny. I don't have stomach coming out.

3. I don't wear sport shoes with jeans in party. LOL.

4. Even few of the girls told me that most of Indian will come to them and will ask them "how much" without saying hi hello of even inquiring they are working or not.

Even I have experience this in Q bar. Once I was there with one of my friends (she is fashion photographer in thai magazine) we were sitting near enterance and smoking sheesha. Suddenly I saw two Indian guys (Working in Dubai that what they told me) entering the bar. They come to me and said."hey nice chick how much you paying her" me and my female friend started laughing. When we finished laughing I told them two things. 1. She is not working. 2. Go get some education. They simply apologized and went inside.

I want to add one more thing. I have read quite a few post in BKK and Pattaya forum people telling they were not allowed to get inside some club or gogo or they were not treated good because of there national or skin color. I want to tell them that I have seen Japanese, Korean, American, British, Indian, Areb, Australian being kicked out of gogo and Clubs. They all being kicked out because of there behavior not because of there nationality or skin color. So be good, respect the people and culture. And have fun. There is lot to be seen and done in BKK.

As soon as you get rid of one, another comes in before the door can close. (Unless it is the same one in disguise.)

[QUOTE=IndianManGood;1485675]A taxi fare of 3500-that's what I call overpaying. Where does the girl live? Pattaya?[/QUOTE]Of course I never pay for sex but I like to ensure that the lady goes home safely and securely, particularly if it is late at night.

I think it only fair therefore to give her the money for her taxi, Baht 3000. 3500 depending on the distance she goes. This does of course include a good tip for the taxi driver.

But pay for sex. No way.

[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1485804]Of course I never pay for sex but I like to ensure that the lady goes home safely and securely, particularly if it is late at night.

I think it only fair therefore to give her the money for her taxi, Baht 3000. 3500 depending on the distance she goes. This does of course include a good tip for the taxi driver.

But pay for sex. No way.[/QUOTE]Oh well, I am the first one to say one can do whatever with his own money. But a 3/3500b for taxi means she keeps in her pocket the equivalent of a LT wherever she lives in BKK.

Maybe not in front of your eyes, of course.

[QUOTE=Sorchin; 1485804]Of course I never pay for sex but I like to ensure that the lady goes home safely and securely, particularly if it is late at night.

I think it only fair therefore to give her the money for her taxi, Baht 3000. 3500 depending on the distance she goes. This does of course include a good tip for the taxi driver.

But pay for sex. No way.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=BionicMan;1485813]Oh well, I am the first one to say one can do whatever with his own money. But a 3/3500b for taxi means she keeps in her pocket the equivalent of a LT wherever she lives in BKK.[/QUOTE]Sorchin; It is your money, so fair play to you. No issues with the ammount you tip, that is your business. Going through these linguistic gymnastics to be able to state you never pay for sex, your just deceiving yourself.

Just to state the obvious: Typical punter: Price+Tip+Taxi = Total; The lady can use the total however she likes. If you give a lady money for the Taxi and she has a friend pick her up in her motorbike, she isn't going to give you a refund; which illustrates that it's her money once its in her hands. Your stating that you have not paid [Price=0, Tip=0] but that you pay well for the Taxi ensuring the Total remains the same as with a typical punter. Thus its equilivant, and just word games.

If not paying for sex is important to you, ISG is a odd choice of hangouts.

-Cpt Aardvark.

I read Sorchin's post with a wink at the end.

I've had several friends who would never accept money for sex, but a face saving gift of some cash to "buy yourself something nice" makes everyone happy and the illusion remains.

[QUOTE=Null Avenger; 1485883]Sorchin; It is your money, so fair play to you. No issues with the ammount you tip, that is your business. Going through these linguistic gymnastics to be able to state you never pay for sex, your just deceiving yourself.

Just to state the obvious: Typical punter: Price+Tip+Taxi = Total; The lady can use the total however she likes. If you give a lady money for the Taxi and she has a friend pick her up in her motorbike, she isn't going to give you a refund; which illustrates that it's her money once its in her hands.

-Cpt Aardvark.[/QUOTE]You know.you have hit on a very worrisome issue. With all the free sex that I get I might get annoyed if I thought the lady was using a m/c or friend to collect her so she could pocket all the taxi money that I give her.

Being a gentleman I always escort her to the taxi and make certain that she is safely in (see below) and on her way. I do tell the taxi driver that he should look after herand that she has money both to pay him and tip him.

[QUOTE=Charlie Horse; 1485893]I read Sorchin's post with a wink at the end.

I've had several friends who would never accept money for sex, but a face saving gift of some cash to "buy yourself something nice" makes everyone happy and the illusion remains.[/QUOTE]That is another story, ie what you tell her when handing out money, to save her face, if needed.

Just as girls usually refer to "tip" for what in the world is usually called "fee": softer way t describe she wants to be paid extra for the "extra" (and more than often the extra are just basic part of the service we go for)

But telling us "I do not pay", then reporting he handed over 3/3500b, as taxi money is not fooling ourselves. It is fooling himself.

We all know prices of ST / LT and. Taxi fares.

Again, own money" and we are not here to debate how much one wants to pay. In a pinch we could even say, in some cases, that 3500 for a LT could be too much. But I ain't no price police.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1485894]Being a gentleman I always escort her to the taxi and make certain that she is safely in (see below) and on her way. I do tell the taxi driver that he should look after herand that she has money both to pay him and tip him.[/QUOTE]I am happy for the free sex you have.

When my taxi fare is 80 I leave him with 20 tip and he is more than happy.

A 500 fare is taking you anywhere in BKK in the worst traffic (that means a lot of standing meter). It is even more than what is needed to go to BKK airport with motorway tolls. Do you mean she should tip him 2500/2000 in addition to the 500 meter?

Just asking. 3000 will buy you a taxi for the whole day, and more.

So be honest to yourself, at least here, a mongering forum, where we are "professionals" on P4P.

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1485894]Being a gentleman I always escort her to the taxi and make certain that she is safely in (see below) and on her way. I do tell the taxi driver that he should look after herand that she has money both to pay him and tip him.[/QUOTE]A taxi driver might take the words look after her to mean go ahead and have sex with the prostitute. In his mind he might think the girl wants more sex! All for free!

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1485949]But telling us "I do not pay", then reporting he handed over 3/3500b, as taxi money is not fooling ourselves. It is fooling himself.[/QUOTE]I think he was being facetious, or sarcastic. But is true that he didn't paid, in fact he overpaid.

There is an important consequence when you drop this kind of money on a first date to a woman that did not even requested or expected that much if anything at all; first you have created an unresonable expectation, and second you have introduced yourself not only as a player, but as a monger. Both things are clearly negative in case you want to conduct some kind of normal relationship with women.

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1486035]I think he was being facetious, or sarcastic. But is true that he didn't paid, in fact he overpaid.

There is an important consequence when you drop this kind of money on a first date to a woman that did not even requested or expected that much if anything at all; first you have created an unresonable expectation, and second you have introduced yourself not only as a player, but as a monger. Both things are clearly negative in case you want to conduct some kind of normal relationship with women.[/QUOTE]I did not overpay; I just paid her the going rate for the taxi fare and continued to get free sex.

And because the sex is free, I never have to argue about what I should pay the lady. She has no expectations about the sex and how much I should / will pay. Her only worry is getting home safely, which I take care of.

Not certain how I ca be a player.and equally a monger = and have negative normal relations. Some pay for sex and maybe give the lady a miserable sum for a basic m/c trip home. Me, I get free sex and just pay for the taxi.

[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1486133]I did not overpay; I just paid her the going rate for the taxi fare and continued to get free sex.

And because the sex is free, I never have to argue about what I should pay the lady. She has no expectations about the sex and how much I should / will pay. Her only worry is getting home safely, which I take care of.

Not certain how I ca be a player. And equally a monger = and have negative normal relations. Some pay for sex and maybe give the lady a miserable sum for a basic m / see trip home. Me, I get free sex and just pay for the taxi.[/QUOTE]Scorching, please, don't take us as idiots. The girl is not idiot too.

Three weeks ago I took a taxi from MBK to soi 4: traffic was awful, it took us one hour to cover 6km. Meter was 120baht.

Three years ago I booked a taxi for an afternoon trip to Amphawa market. The driver anticipated approx 1500 baht cost. That included two ways and (undetermined) waiting time on location. We left soi 33 at 12. 30 and came back at appr 5/5. 30pm. When we left he put the meter on. I was "worried: will the meter keep his promise of 1500baht? The waiting time was over two hours (and the meter was running.). When he dropped us back in soi 33, the meter showed 1485 baht.

I did the same trip three weeks ago, and the pre-agree rate was 1800. No meter set, but was fine for me. I left him with 2000baht. An unexpected 200 tip on an already generous fare.

BKK airport to Pattaya is from 1000-1200 up to an expensive 1500 incl tolls.

And you are telling us that giving the girl 3/3500 "for taxi" is not paying her?

Give us a break!

I repeat, you can pay a girl 10000 for a ST if you wish, somehow none of our business. But you cannot tell us that is a normal price, for instance.

You can give her an expensive and genuine French brand handbag worth 3000$ for a weekend of hot sex! That is far different than handing her over a mere 500$ saying: you can shop.

The first is an expensive gift, the second. 1/6 value of the gift, is an expensive hooker fee.

This is our point.

A non P4P will be delighted and impressed by the bag, but will be offended by the cash.

A P4P will not give a damn to the expensive and genuine bag, she can get a fake one of 1/100 of its value and it will look the same at the eye of her friends, and will be more than happy to cash the 500$ for taxi money. She will not grab a m/c, she will not take BTS, she will not walk back. She'll jump in a taxi, over-excited by having scored over 450$ net by the time she'll be home.

Get the point, now?

PS: if you come back to reality (of taxi fares including generous tip), give her 500 baht next time, and see what she will tell you... Then let us know.

[QUOTE=Marcos; 1486035]I think he was being facetious, or sarcastic. But is true that he didn't paid, in fact he overpaid.

There is an important consequence when you drop this kind of money on a first date to a woman that did not even requested or expected that much if anything at all; first you have created an unresonable expectation, and second you have introduced yourself not only as a player, but as a monger. Both things are clearly negative in case you want to conduct some kind of normal relationship with women.[/QUOTE]Totally agreeing.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1486146]Scorching, please, don't take us as idiots. The girl is not idiot too.[/QUOTE]I had better put you out of your misery before you become apoplectic.

Some people just don't know when someone is taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] out of them. Seems the longer you post. 4,700 post the more you cease to recognize reality.