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[QUOTE=RobJones;2197855]Guys don't reward bad behaviour![/QUOTE]Sage advice.
This is exactly where the problem lies. There are too many guys rewarding bad behavior. To the extent where it has become the norm. I don't have a problem paying a girl well over the "going rate" or tipping her generously, but only when I find the service truly differentiated.
MonkeyPaw would you care to share why you were banned from these places? Obviously you know how things work in Pattaya and I'm curious why that happened?
[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2197883]Sage advice.
This is exactly where the problem lies. There are too many guys rewarding bad behavior. To the extent where it has become the norm. I don't have a problem paying a girl well over the "going rate" or tipping her generously, but only when I find the service truly differentiated.[/QUOTE]I'm at the stage now that I'm getting very reluctant to barfine Agogo girls. We all evolve through our trips to Pattaya and where in my first trip it was majority Agogo and in my last trip a lot of group sex now I am looking at mainly freelance and beer bar girls, with maybe 3 or 4 visits to agogo bars and in 2 of those cases to repeat with particular girls. I too will reward good service with a tip, food and repeats.
[QUOTE=RobJones;2197958]I'm at the stage now that I'm getting very reluctant to barfine Agogo girls. We all evolve through our trips to Pattaya and where in my first trip it was majority Agogo and in my last trip a lot of group sex now I am looking at mainly freelance and beer bar girls, with maybe 3 or 4 visits to agogo bars and in 2 of those cases to repeat with particular girls. I too will reward good service with a tip, food and repeats.[/QUOTE]RB you took the words out of my mouth. Last year I wrote a report about availability of pussy against price points along with a commentary on their value for money (from my perspective). I find the girls from beer bars the most suitable. This is also partly because a large majority of girls in Gogos have implants and tattoos and other habits that turn me off. And a sizeable number have pretty undesirable attitudes. Last year I had gone out with BB and UV to a few Gogo bars over 2 days, but did not barfine a single chick. Yes, I was generous with drinks and I groped the girls I was buying drinks for, but did not bother to take them out. Instead, each night I found a new girl from many of the beer bars that dot the town.
[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2197828]There are too many silicone these days in Thailand. I don't like them. No matter how natural they might look, they are fake. It is difficult to find slim Thai girls with naturally big firm tits. These Pattaya bar girls both had great tits. The girl in the picture 1 had best ones I have ever seen and played in Asia. They were fucking unreal![/QUOTE]Yes, these are perfect! Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2197828]There are too many silicone these days in Thailand. I don't like them. No matter how natural they might look, they are fake. It is difficult to find slim Thai girls with naturally big firm tits. [/QUOTE]If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.
[QUOTE=Yiruma;2197497]Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't see anything wrong if a girl does that. She has to hustle her drinks and make a living. However, I do think its a whole different story if a barfine has already been agreed on or even paid for.[/QUOTE]I'm guessing you have more disposable income than I do. I don't really appreciate spending 200+ baht for a lady drink to have a girl run off to another guy in a few minutes. That's either a pure shark or someone who has no interest in spending time with me. If she has no interest in me why should I buy her more drinks in the future? There are many other more deserving girls who should get my money.
[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2197493]The one with the blurred face in the green dress, I think did work at Baccara before. She has an Asian / Indian look to her right? I think she is at Skyfall now. .[/QUOTE]
Yes, she definitely does not look full Thai but she is.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;2198080]If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.[/QUOTE]
Can't agree more. Jakarta is where to go for natural breasts. I don't like huge breasts like some guys but I definitely prefer very perky full tits that are a handful.
Aren't Thai women rated as one of the flattest in the world? I remember seeing some survey about breast size.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2197736] I'm with Natty, prefer girls with natural breasts since most of the fakes in Thailand are of poor quality. But that's what you get when the breast implant can be had for a couple of hundred bucks.[/QUOTE]I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.
The one in the red is from SC and the nude is from Pattaya, both were very pretty. The overall experiences were subpar but their tits were nice. I find the Thai / Asian fakes to be the most natural and sexiest looking.
[QUOTE=Allover;2197914]MonkeyPaw would you care to share why you were banned from these places? Obviously you know how things work in Pattaya and I'm curious why that happened?[/QUOTE]This all happened when I first started coming to Thailand and the scams were not easily understood by me. At Hollywood, my friends and I partied with a few girls from Sensations who took us there. They of course had friends who worked there and knew the managers as well. You have to realize that many of the "girls" work along side with the night clubs to help run up the customer's bill. They like to order bottles and when they are left unused or half empty, the girls will get to keep them when the customers return back to their country. They then will bring more customers to this nightclub with "I have a bottle left at Hollywood. We can go drink and party tonight free. " If you are a newbie, they will then hustle you for mixers, another bottle at the club, shisha, shots, and drinks for their friends and tips for everybody. Sounds familiar?
So that night, while we were drunk, our bill was inflated. We couldn't keep up with all the shots and drinks and friends. These girls seemed to know everybody at Hollywood. But it was just all go go bar girls all working on Walking Street, waiters, managers, and security that kept coming by our VIP table to take shots with us. They were trying to make us feel VIP by drinking all our liquor and getting us to buy more. So at the end of the night, our bill came to about 34,000 baht. That's high for just 6 people and 3 bottles which were each ONLY half empty. Like there was some Thai rule that says you must order different bottle of liquor even though you haven't finished the first. It was our own fault that we got drunk and couldn't keep up with the bill, drinks, and people who kept coming to our table. No problem there as I understood the game.
I would have left it alone if the hustling just stopped there. But after everybody else was kicked out at closing time. The girls and the managers asked if wanted to party some more. They couldn't let us drink the bottles we already bought but they had some left over bottles that customers threw away previously. So the 6 of us, plus our 2 waitresses, and 2 managers went into a private room with some music playing from the stereo and started drinking some more. They brought in a 3/4 bottle of Red Label that wasn't ours. They said it was free. The club was already closed and we stayed there for about another hour drinking and making out with the girls. Finally, we were ready to go back to our hotel rooms and get our fuck on. Low and behold! We get this extra bill of 16,000 baht for the room and having the staff stay over to hang out with us. I was drunk, but even when drunk, I knew we were being scammed. My friends started to complain and they then told us that they had to use this money to bribe the Thai police to let them stay open just for us because we were VIP. The girls we were with didn't even argue or help us, so something fishy was going on.
Anyways, I told my buddies I will handle this and paid the entire bill with my credit card. My friends of course would have to give me back cash the next day. We left and all went back to our rooms. In my room, I grudge fucked the living hell out of that Sensations girl for the next 2 hours. She was upset that it took me forever to cum and she tried everything pussy, tits, ass, mouth, and hands. I was still buzzing and took a crap full of kamagra. Finally she quit and asked me can she go as it was close 8 am. She said I only had to give her 4000 baht since I didn't cum. I let her go. When she walked out the door, I made a quick call to my friend JP Morgan. That's the awesome thing about having the benefits of a metal credit card. It can protect you from scams like this. Since they decided to make us pay for illegally keeping the club open after closing time, I disputed all my charges for that night at Hollywood. I told Chase I wanted an itemized list of all charges at that club for everything consumed. The bank reversed the 50,000 baht in charges by Hollywood. They were unable to prove any of the bill. Comes to find out later that the even the 3 bottles of liquor given to me, where from a stock that they use to make extra cash on the customer and not club inventory. They thought I was a weekend warrior they could easily scam. They didn't realize I not had come here to play, but her to stay and I know how to play back. The girls at Sensations told me Hollywood doesn't want to see me back there ever again. Oh well. Boo hoo.
Ibar / Insomnia, I had gone with some friends from the USA who also played professional football. These guys (5 of them) were all linemen and about 6'5" and 290 lbs and up. They just kept grabbing every girls' asses at Insomnia and intimidated even the bouncers there. Finally, one of them slugged a Russian guy in the bathroom for not tipping the bathroom attendant after he took a piece of candy from her. The management and security, then asked us nicely to leave and not come back again. So I never have. While they were kicking us out, they also took some photos with us because they were football players.
[QUOTE=Socker;2198228]I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.
The one in the red is from SC and the nude is from Pattaya, both were very pretty. The overall experiences were subpar but their tits were nice. I find the Thai / Asian fakes to be the most natural and sexiest looking.[/QUOTE]Those types of fakes are what I'm talking about (can only judge by the looks of the one photo). Might be all the damage from having a baby or three. Buddy of mine see's a girl who had three kids and her breast implants aren't as good as the photo you posted. I'd give the boob job in your photo a '4' rating, the boob job in the photo I've attached gets a '10'. That's Hiromi Oshima below in the photo if anyone recognizes her.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2198116]...Aren't Thai women rated as one of the flattest in the world? I remember seeing some survey about breast size.[/QUOTE]IMO, Korean women have them beat, so many flat breasted women. So are the Viet girls too, at least the few I've met.
[QUOTE=Breadman;2198399]... the boob job in the photo I've attached gets a '10'. That's Hiromi Oshima below in the photo if anyone recognizes her.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't give the one you posted ( Hiromi Oshima's) a 10. The anchoring area is too broad (no oil drop effect, no attempt at looking natural). They hang from the shoulders like towels from a washing line. Such tit jobs are the kind that tend to set off my ladyboys alarms. If 10's are to be awarded for tit jobs, then eg for Veronica Zemanova's first tit job:
[QUOTE=XXL;2198428]I wouldn't give the one you posted ( Hiromi Oshima's) a 10. The anchoring area is too broad (no oil drop effect, no attempt at looking natural). They hang from the shoulders like towels from a washing line. Such tit jobs are the kind that tend to set off my ladyboys alarms. If 10's are to be awarded for tit jobs, then eg for Veronica Zemanova's first tit job:[/QUOTE]Again different strokes for different folks. I don't find hanging boob jobs all that attractive. Before and after website showing famous porn stars [URL]https://www.porn.com/blog/before-and-after-porn-star-boob-jobs/[/URL].
In my opinion Aletta Ocean and Rebecca Linares made a huge mistake from these two website photo's. Bobbi Eden's fakes look very well done. Teagan Presley was the only one that I thought made a vast improvement over her naturals.
Now Dillion Harper (porn star) has an amazing set of tits that look too good to be true. I actually got to feel them at a local stripclub when she toured and I have to say that they sure look fake but felt like the real thing.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;2198080]If you like relatively larger, naturally endowed ta ta's give Jakarta a look / see. On average Thai girls are smaller and less curvy than Indo girls. I like both flavors as long as the girls are pretty, have no fat and are friendly (of course). Viva la difference.[/QUOTE]I was last year in Jakarta and posted some pics of large natural boobs.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1537-Photo-Gallery&p=2068828&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2068828.
But the city itself is a shithole. And most of the better looking girls are working in brothels, which means for me a soulless hasty fuck. I tried to invite some of these brother girls to my hotel, no luck. I will not go back there just for mongering unless I can combine it with a business trip.
Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket etc are much better places for a sex vacation. The infrastructure is superior to Jakarta, food is tastier and the hookers are just as good-if not better than Indos. Still the best tits for me have been found in Thailand.
[QUOTE=Socker;2198228]I'm a hater of fake tits too but I find the fakes in Thailand are far superior than any other country I've partaken. They hang natural, they're soft and mushy and if the girl has nice pale skin they look superb. The only shortcoming is there might be a small scar on the bottoms or they feel a little lumpy but this has been minor in the dancers I've hired.[/QUOTE]This one had relatively nice looking silicone and yes, you can clearly see the scar. That does not bother me. But the unnatural feel is what sucks. And no matter how the girl walks around or moves in the bed the tits are standing still. I get bored after a minute.