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[QUOTE=Diglerni;2415098]When I was there I saw younger white guys with hot chicks all over the place.[/QUOTE]I am not a white guy.
[QUOTE=Diglerni;2415098]My guess is that you are a little older or a little out of shape and being with you might be worse than being with a Korean.[/QUOTE]I am a 30-year old black US Marine. And you're right. Being with me and getting their pussy pounded for 30+ minutes before each shot will put me at disadvantage against the average Korean.
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[QUOTE=RainMania;2415265]Many of the same girls that shun westerners in bars and 'only' go with koreans would gladly meet you outside the bar if you arrange things with them on Facebook, tinder, PL, hiso etc[/QUOTE]This is very true and I found this out. I will include this in my upcoming trip report.
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[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2415373]I am not a white guy.
I am a 30-year old black US Marine. And you're right. Being with me and getting their pussy pounded for 30+ minutes before each shot will put me at disadvantage against the average Korean.[/QUOTE]Well devil dog good for you. Announcing that you're a Marine just shows how pathetic you might be. Real Marines don't go around having to claim being a Marine. But have fun with that.
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[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2415373]I am not a white guy.
I am a 30-year old black US Marine. And you're right. Being with me and getting their pussy pounded for 30+ minutes before each shot will put me at disadvantage against the average Korean.[/QUOTE]Hey buddy, I'm a 40 something half-Korean Marine and I've spent a fair amount of time in AC. A lot of Filipinas have strong racial preferences. I've known bargirls who only go with Koreans, refuse all Koreans, refuse all black guys, prefer black guys. Most are very financially driven and with 7,000 or so bargirls in AC, you should be able to pull hot girls all day every day. Don't wait for the mamasan, just call the girl down yourself and get her a drink. If the chemistry is off, move on because it won't get better even if she does barfine with you.
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[QUOTE=Diglerni;2414854]Not true at all. If you want to spend what the Koreans spend, then you can have any girl they have. Most men refuse to spend that kind of money and rightfully so. My buddy found a girl he liked at alantis and paid the 4 k bar fine and off he went. She was easily one of the hottest girls in there. And there are no bars these that only let Koreans in. I've been to them all.[/QUOTE]I have been flat out told by girls that they will not go with me cause I am not Korean even for 4000 p. It may have never happened to you yet but give it some time. Also the isolated girls are there you have just not picked one out yet to be turned down. Most of the bars up by the clarkton are pretty much koreans only. Yes they let you in and you may get a girl there but not from the higher end of the line up / Hope you keep having the good luck you been having.
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[QUOTE=Thampi62;2415067]I won't agree sir.
PonyTail belongs to the Atlantis and Doll House group. They open at 12 noon and closes at 9. They have at least 20 girls at a time. Most of the girls agree only for ST. There is a bikini party in Score Birds hotel (Belongsto DollHouse group) every Saturday. Competitors are from these three bars and the girls from PonyTails are stunners in those group. Mamasan in PonyTail Celia is a friendly lady and girls are friendly, great in bed and 40 percent girls are good looking too and not that much Korean invasion.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Not saying there is nothing in pony tails worth takin BUT I been going in there at 12 on a regular bases and some of those so called models should not be models. Chewed up bubble gum bellies is not model quality. Everyone has a different eye for what they see has hot thou I guess.
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[QUOTE=ElMoreno202;2415092]Again, if the mamasan won't even call them down to talk, no one will get a chance to spend the what the Koreans spend. Also, talking with some vets inside of Margarita Station, I learn in most Korean-owned bars, the Koreans have a tight control on the mamasans and the girls. Girls who are seen with non-Koreans are considered, "useless" to them and are shunned. Yes you can get in the bar. They won't turn you away. I, too, went in nearly every bar on Fields and Perimeter with no issues. In some of the bars, they'll completely ignore non-Koreans and direct the fuglies and hogs to the non-Koreans. I have seen that with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]The low scale girls are steered to the non Koreans Absolutely. Its cause the Koreans don't want non Koreans banging their girls its some sort of once a girls been with a non Korean they are soiled and less pure. Your right they are shunned and shamed by the Korean manager.
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[QUOTE=Diglerni;2415098]As I have seen it with my own eyes. Especially because I was looking at the hot chick my buddy took home from Atlantis. He told the waitress which girl he wanted and she shined her flashlight and she came over. Had a drink. Paid his 4 k and off they went. I think the people who say they don't have a chance are just making excuses for themselves. It's AC for Christ sakes. Yes Korean run up the price. Yes Koreans are easy scores. But of you're decent looking, in shape and know how to talk to girls you can pull the hot ones from bars too. When I was there I saw younger white guys with hot chicks all over the place. My guess is that you are a little older or a little out of shape and being with you might be worse than being with a Korean.[/QUOTE]So your using one hot girl from Atlantis your buddy pulled for 4000 p has a example that we are wrong about Koreans managers isolating higher end girls? The girl your buddy pulled was not a isolated girl IF she was the pointer lady would have told him she's not available to him. Atlantis is not one of the bars really thou that isolated anyone so bad example. Some of the bars up by Clarkton don't even put the isolated girls up on the stage at all. They wait to be picked from a photo album by Koreans that are in Widus or Marriott on business trips from Korea and a van goes down to the bars and picks them up and brings them back to the hotels to be with the Koreans who picked them. Most the girls are out of those bars at 10 am to noon and with guys hanging out at the pool at the hotel you never see them and therefore have no access to them.
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[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2415562]The low scale girls are steered to the non Koreans Absolutely. Its cause the Koreans don't want non Koreans banging their girls its some sort of once a girls been with a non Korean they are soiled and less pure. Your right they are shunned and shamed by the Korean manager.[/QUOTE]Which makes absolutely no sense since they were with other guys before they were with Koreans. Or maybe it is seen that once they are with a Korean they are born again and can be absolved of the non Korean guys they were with before.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415583]Or maybe it is seen that once they are with a Korean they are born again and can be absolved of the non Korean guys they were with before.[/QUOTE]Most likely. A girl relatively new and unknown to many Koreans is being sold again as a cherry girl with all the money involved. And then after that she's for Koreans only. And the bar owner is going to the bank with a big grin on his face.
LOL!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2415583]Which makes absolutely no sense since they were with other guys before they were with Koreans. Or maybe it is seen that once they are with a Korean they are born again and can be absolved of the non Korean guys they were with before.[/QUOTE]Who really cares? I guess some do.
Personally there are plenty to go around at all price point.
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Where can you buy plan b / post sex contraceptive pill in AC? And how much?
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[QUOTE=SEAtraveller;2416060]Where can you buy plan b / post sex contraceptive pill in AC? And how much?[/QUOTE]Refer to post # 25653 for generic name. Can buy in any pharmacy. Ask for Plan be or generic name.
Cost should be reasonable. However I have never bought any in PH. Always brought my own.
Try South Star Drugs on Walking Street. Please report back on cost for all to know.
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First night Angeles this trip. Only staying 3 days. Club Atlantis is def. Fun with a few shows with a chinese dragon on stage and some other Chinese themed ones because of new year. I like the vibe in this place and the perfect view. Altho I wouldn't barfine about 80% of the girls in here. Maybe my taste is just not Filipino's because in Thai and indo I could easily barfine 50+%. What I like about Angeles is the non-pressure about buying drinks. It's all very relaxed, everybody is very nice and you can actually just hang around without people hustling with you all the time. Money goes very far here too with the much cheaper price compared to other countries.
Worse bar I went to was Vikings. Not sure what people like about this place besides the look of it. I think this place is one of those that is complained about as being 'Korean'. I sat down and not once got a smile, a look or any enthusiasm from any of the girls on stage. The ones off stage were all busy with Korean groups and the ones on stage lacked any enthusiasm. No dancing, hardly moving etc. Sad atmosphere with what seems like a Korean boss of the place annoying girls on stage constantly. Won't return unless things are perhaps different on another day.
Other places I really enjoyed were Xs and Lollipop (Same owners I think). Esp lollipop was very fun. Much more hands on in this place where as others seemed more tame. Lot of lapdances and kisses and touching going on.
At the end I took one of the 'entertainer' girls from Atlantis. Didn't pay barfine but just told her my roomnr and to come after work. The girls only keep 2 k from the 3. 5 k so gave her 2.5 k to come over which worked out well. One girl said if the mamasans etc. Find out a girl goes outside of the bar with a customer to avoid barfine they get fined 5 k. So when doing it this way do it discreetly.
BTW: is it more common for Filipino girls to have 'hairy' bushes? Of all girls I touched last night and the one I barfined they had a lot of hair. Wasn't used to seeing that anymore so was very surprised. Maybe its more common here? Will try a few other bars tonight. Any must-do's? Have only dollhouse planned so far. The bars where only 4/5 girls are dancing on stage are really really awkward to sit down so I prefer the bigger set-ups.
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Girls are talking about the filthy Chinese and their viruses. You do notice some but really how many Chinese are turning up in Angeles? They are the death blow to any place they frequent. Already someone dead in Cebu from their disease.