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After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.
1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.
2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.
3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.
Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203772]After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.
1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.
2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.
3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.
Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.[/QUOTE]Wow. You're living in a totally different city than I am. I don't know a single girl over 45 and I know 1000's of girls under 27. Good luck in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203772]After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months.
Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.[/QUOTE]Interesting observations especially since many of us are considering living there. But your experience seems to differ from guys like Mr. E and Banana Boi. I don't know how old they are but they seem to like it there.
For now I am spending 6 weeks each year in Thailand. I may expand my visit to two months next year. Seems like the best of both worlds for me.
I'm a late 60's overweight guy and I occasionally get very hot looking girls. Not like when I was younger but it happens. I have upped by game a bit as MonkeyPaw would say and I don't give a shit if I get rejected any more. That is key now. Move on to the next one. I will be here for another 2 weeks and love it. Good luck and thank for your opinions.
[QUOTE=Allover;2203847] But your experience seems to differ from guys like Mr. E and Banana Boi.[/QUOTE]They forced to pay 200 USD for a nice girls since there are very little left at that age bracket. For me 6000 Thb including barfine means that the party is over and time to move.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203772]After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.
1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.
2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.
3/ Living in a vacuum completely isolated from their culture and society.
Also good things mainly freedom, long term accommodation and food. But to sum things I would say no girls. Sold my motorbike feel free to move again.[/QUOTE]I've lived here going close to 15 years majority all in Pattaya. Ten months you are still a baby and even younger if you are the type that lives in a vacuum. Not a criticism to those who fit into this mold but really to each their own if it works for you. Living in a vacuum means you sleep a lot will only eat western food, stay mainly in the western portion of the City, like to hang out at Sportbars and speak zero Thai although one has a motorbike.
It really depends on one's age I assume if a person travels a lot and are looking for a place to settle down they most likely are in the retirement age. Personally, if you are just vacationing I understand guys the main objective is to get them young but if you are here long term I believe as time goes by one's criteria will be a bit higher in their age. Today, I preferred them if they are in their early twenties their attitude must be more mature but rarely even a stunner I will BF and haven't done so in near 5 years. Not really self-conscious short time okay If the room is close have no desire to walking or going anywhere with a young girl who hasn't mature mentality. I was warned years ago by a famous poster here " more you are entrenched into the Thai culture the more you will hate it here ". So today my taste has revolved the youngest I've taken lately is early 30's, not a stunner but average looks with a good personality and a body they take care plus a good pair of legs is a plus.
You would think with the Government leaders boosting all the English learning be. S. The last ten year and being in the Asean community the people coming out of the schools would be able to speak better English but go to the nearest 7/11 and speak some English to them. It is in the range of zero and it should be better but you look at their age it is if many just graduated from High School. It is even worse outside of Bangkok and Pattaya which many Expat considers not to even be part of Thailand. So based on my opinion, the production line of girls from Isaan will continue nothing to worry about except the price will go up because they have a school of their own to know exactly what to say and ask for from us foreigners.
Personally, if you are isolated from their culture and society it is one's own doing. But remember if you are too deep it will drive you crazy how they think is backward and that is being kind. I don't live in a vacuum I live pretty much 100% of the time with Thai, if you didn't know me you would think I was Thai, even the Thais say I look and act like a Thai. One can't live in a vacuum but too much Thai will make you go over the edge so one has to really meet a balance? You can do the same stuff every day whether you are here or at home in the West it gets boring? My saying " the grass is never greener " it is tough work to keep it green so if you are bored one needs to expand their horizon and get out and do something new, exercise play some softball maybe, go fishing, night after night, bar, gogo, yes it gets boring? You live here it goes in cycles it isn't all about pulling your dick out.
I stay off sites like WeChat etc.. it's taken me years to get rid of the constant calling at all hours and the threats from the Thai boyfriend who seems to be threatened by an old Asian guy if they are farangs for reasons it's O.K? Today I sleep soundly and much happier narrowing who I want around me.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203772]2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.[/QUOTE]Yes. If you want talk easier with Thai people you have the possibility to learn Thai language too.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203772]After visiting for nearly 10 years I decided to live here, already 10 months. Huge difference between tourist and expat. I will be moving again to try the philippines as a country to live as the main reason are.
1/ Nearly zero girls for me. Bar girls are 45 years old and pattaya now is entirely dominates by LB's. WeChat is 100% LB. I would say if you are 30 then yes some nice non pro here. Even a decent massage become a scam and a pain.
2/ Zero level of English you always need to use up to two words. And Pataya is the best city in Thailand as far as English goes.[/QUOTE]Looks like you have the wrong game going for someone that lives there. Why are you worrying about bar girls? You just walk around anywhere you go and meet chicks. Tukcom, Royal Garden, Central Festival, the streets. One or two times a week we will sit in the market and talk to chicks that are coming and going and get their numbers or Line. No need to pay a girl and a bar when you could just pay the girl (and meet plenty of free ones in the process).
WeChat sucks really bad. Like you said, it is infested with LB. ThaiFriendly is way better, but of course the cost option is better than the free option.
I don't know what Pattaya you are in if you think the English level is zero. I know plenty of Pattaya chicks that speak English better than me. And when a popular song comes on I have to ask them who the American artist is. They fucking know! Thai chicks are for the most part smart. When you get over to Philippines with those dumb ass people it will really frustrate you. I do not know why people think English is so prevalent there when it really isn't. Maybe if you are talking to hotel staff or more educated people yes, but when you are at a bar scence with uneducated country bumpkins good fucking luck.
And thinking is not the strong point of a Filipino. They are good with giving them directions and setting them to a task. No way can they deviate from that. Try going into McDonalds and ordering a whatever with no tomatoes. It confuses the shit out of them because they are taught it is made a certain way and that is the way you stick with. It is easier for them to tell you that it can't be done or does not come that way.
One story I like to tell is when me and my girl were at a resort in Cebu. We were in the pool and a lady comes around to get orders for dinner. I looked at the menu and saw grilled ham and cheese. I didn't have a taste for ham so I told the girl that I would just have grilled cheese. You do not know how serious this chick was when she replied that they don't have grilled cheese, only grilled ham and cheese. There was no way that I could convince her that if they just didn't put the fucking ham on the bread, then it would be a grilled cheese. After going back and forth with this, it was just easier to order something else. So prepare yourself, because it won't be pretty!
P.S. What is up with going to other countries expecting people to speak English anyway? If anything you are the foreigner with big bucks. You have afford to go to language school for a few weeks. Those chicks are forced to learn English through music, movies, and a dictionary. I know a Thai chick that went to see a guy in Brazil. Fucking around with him she got stuck there for a time so she bought a dictionary and taught herself Portuguese in order to make a way.
I have a degree in French. The first time I went to Brazil and saw all those fine ass women I was like if I could speak some Portuguese... I went and learned Portuguese. The first time I went to Colombia and Dominican Republic and saw those fine ass women I was like if I could speak some Spanish... I went and learned Spanish. The first time I went to Thailand, the first chick I got with out of Angel Disco in Nana Hotel was teaching me Thai and I didn't even ask her. I am so thankful that she started me off though. You have been there 10 months. If you wrote just 3 new words per day on index cards during that time, think how much Thai you would be speaking now. And I assure you that you would be having a way better time. It does not even take much. Just start a conversation off with some Thai and they assume you speak Thai. They will say oh you speak Thai then they will start speaking in English the rest of the time. A few ice-breaking words go a long way.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan;2203861]I've lived here going close to 15 years majority all in Pattaya. Ten months you are still a baby and even younger if you are the type that lives in a vacuum. Not a criticism to those who fit into this mold but really to each their own if it works for you. Living in a vacuum means you sleep a lot will only eat western food, stay mainly in the western portion of the City, like to hang out at Sportbars and speak zero Thai although one has a motorbike.[/QUOTE]I know a guy like this who has lived here over 10 years yet knows less than 10%of what I know. Same bars same routine over and over again. I'm all over the map willing to try anything new.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203860]They forced to pay 200 USD for a nice girls since there are very little left at that age bracket. For me 6000 Thb including barfine means that the party is over and time to move.[/QUOTE]You're saying Mr E is paying 6000 baht for a girl? You clearly have done no reading of the pattaya forum. I know I never have paid 6000 baht and never will.
Like Mr E said, you need to rethink your game. The best young Thai girls don't go with anyone. They have lots of choices so you need to stand out over the other guys.
[QUOTE=MadaExpert;2203860]They forced to pay 200 USD for a nice girls since there are very little left at that age bracket. For me 6000 Thb including barfine means that the party is over and time to move.[/QUOTE]If any chick on this planet says that I have ever given her that kind of money then she is a mf liar. In Pattaya I give chicks 1000 or 1200 for long time. Only twice in the last 10 years have I given a chick 1500. Now of you meet a chick on one of those apps and she comes over right then she will want 1000 for ST. I have done that. But if you know a chick better or you met her out at one of the discos or out in the street somewhere then she will stay 1000 LT.
I made the report last month about the chick I met on WeChat and Tinder that came to stay for 1000. She wanted to come again a couple nights later but I told her I did not have money. She said that is no problem and asked how much I could give her. I didn't really want her to come so I told her 500. She said okay come get me at 9 pm.
One guy here pretends his Kia is a Feraris. He's also all text and no photos. Wonder why? Maybe he doesn't want anyone to see him in his beaten up Kia.
Half the guys here (veterans) know this, the other half are in awe of his crafty illusions.
It would be great if the illusions were real but there not. You get what you pay for is the constant.
[QUOTE=Socker;2204080]One guy here pretends his Kia is a Feraris. He's also all text and no photos. Wonder why? Maybe he doesn't want anyone to see him in his beaten up Kia.
Half the guys here (veterans) know this, the other half are in awe of his crafty illusions.
It would be great if the illusions were real but there not. You get what you pay for is the constant.[/QUOTE]So many of the so-called "Ferraris" actually have a VW bug engine under the hood. So then; what's the point?
[QUOTE=Socker;2204080]One guy here pretends his Kia is a Feraris. He's also all text and no photos. Wonder why? Maybe he doesn't want anyone to see him in his beaten up Kia.
Half the guys here (veterans) know this, the other half are in awe of his crafty illusions.
It would be great if the illusions were real but there not. You get what you pay for is the constant.[/QUOTE]New model at Palace.
Last night I was enjoying myself at Palace accompanied by BB and his friend. We all had girls sitting with us. My focus was on this brand new model that just started there. I pointed out to BB that I bet today was her first day to which I was right. She was sitting alone and no other girls were talking to her. I found her face very attractive and she had a nice slim body with natural tits (more than a handful) and a nice ass. Her name was Surita and she was only 44 kilos she said. Anyways long story short is that I need up barfining Surita for short time and was her first customer ever. Sex was off the chart with her, but here is the amazing thing that happened. Towards the end of our session, I was able to finish CIM with her BBBJ skills. She kept sucking even after I came in her mouth. My dick was still very hard and it still felt good (had taken a gel pack before. Funny thing is that it wasn't over, I felt as if another orgasm was about to hit me again. I told her to keep at it and don't stop because the orgasm never left. She kept sucking my cock and squeezing my balls. The sensation was awesome and about 40 seconds later I erupted again. This time my cum spewed like Old Faithful (a famous geyser). So much cum that it made her gag and dripped from her mouth. When she choked on my cum, she had to remove her mouth from my cock. We both watched in amazement and glory as the cum kept shooting gobs and gobs for like at least 20 seconds every where on my bed. The squirting seemed endless that In was almost embarrassed. I have never in my fucking life came so much cum like that. I thought it was impossible for men to even have multiple orgasms without a refractory period in between. There was no recovery phase between my first orgasm and the second. When I come the first time and she kept sucking, the orgasm continued until I felt as if a bigger better orgasm was about to happened. So if felt as if I had about a 70 second long orgasm but with two different level of intensities and ejaculations. The first one was like for only 10 seconds and that same intense feeling lasted until the second one hit, another 40 seconds later. The second wave made me want to die right there and thank God for my wonderful life. This was how intense and amazing it felt. I never felt or have seen myself cum like that in my entire fucking life. I fuck a different girl almost everyday, so it's not like I had build up of cum. This girl was able to drain me completely. Fucking amazing I had tell BB immediately afterwards. Dang, if this is how girls often feel when they have long multiple orgasms and squirt, then they are lucky. And this is karma rewarding me for what I often give them.
The 18 year old poo-tang from Tantra Club.
The other night it was getting late on WS and I decided to stick my head into Tantra around 1 am. Normally all the hot or decent girls are gone by this time at all the Go Go bars. Usually what is on stage are left overs. I saw this girl who had a large tattoo on her back who look cute and had a nice natural body. I called her down for a drink and to my surprise she was only 18 years old. I didn't believe her when she told me until she popped out her ID to show me. Previously I heard that at 19 you can dance but cannot go with customers. This is for Go Go bars. I knew that Rainbow 4 in Nana was shut down by the police because they were employing 19 year olds a couple of years back. But that's Bangkok, and of course, Walking Street does things differently. But I've also stayed at hotels, like LK Empress, in Pattaya which had signs at reception not allowing anyone who was under 20 years of age as a guest unless they check in at the same time the registered guest does. To make sure, I asked the 18 year old coyote if she can fuck. She told me she has never been barfined (only there 4 days) but she doesn't see why not. Quickly, I called mamasan over and they spoke some Thai I didn't understand. Then mamasan told me that she can go but I had to pay all her money in the club. I've barfines 12 times at Tantra previously, all to this same mamasan. Never did I pay all cash upfront, she knew that. So something weird was going on. I refused to do so this time as well. They spoke some more Thai and mamasan told me it was okay to give her 3000 back in my room. So off we went. Naked, the girl had a very sexy slim natural body with perky tits. She enjoyed DATY for about 30 minutes, but her sex was just so so. She was very tight and couldn't handle all positions especially K9 or with her ankles pressed against her ears and legs wide open for deep penetration. Didn't matter because I spewed my load quickly in that position anyways. BBBJ skills were very non-existent. I wouldn't repeat but it wasn't a waste of money. She tried.
Coyote from Bliss.
I took her from Bliss one night and we went barhopping to Palace and What's Up. She's tall, slim, probably loveliest face at Bliss, but no boobs. Her legs, face, ass, and long natural hair are her best assets. She's a coyote, maybe #116, I forgot and always eyeing me ever since I've first gone to that club awhile back. When I paid bar her, I told her "not short, not long but you don't have to worry about money with me. " I tell this to every girl I grab at the Go Go bars. As we were barhopping to other strip bars, I noticed she was drinking like a fish in order to get drunk. I was drinking as well but not drunk at all. After we left What's Up, she asked if I had alcohol back in my room, to which I didn't. She looked disappointed. Just for fun, I pretended I was drunk. Bad mistake, this girl here kept trying to bareback me with her pussy. She climbed on top after a nice long BBBJ and was grabbing for cock to stick it in. What the fuck? This has been a trend lately with me. I pushed her off and flipped her on her back to lick her a bit (but I really didn't want to). It was just buying me time to grab the condom. We banged pretty hard after that. Funny thing is the condom needed up breaking anyways but I didn't know. I was about to cum and it just started feeling better. Just to be safe I pulled out and saw the tear. I pulled off the condom and had her finish me with her mouth and came on her pretty face. Afterwards, she got angry that I told her I want to sleep alone. The girl flipped out because I didn't want her to sleep over. I was like "I'm paying 5000 baht and you get to leave at 1 am. "She was like" I want to sleep with you and boom boom many times." Um. No you have to go and kicked her ass out. She got angry and called me a "butterfly" and left with her 5000 baht. I'm beginning to think her trying to get drunk, trying bareback me, and trying sleep over, was all a ploy or game to trap me somehow. Bliss and Palace have the same owner and many girls know each other between the bars. I'm sure they told her some stuff about me when I went to the bathroom at Palace. Strange girl indeed.
Update: the 24 year old virgin from Iron.
We exchanged LINE after I popped her cherry the other night with her model friend. Bad mistake. Can't shake the girl. She wants to try again but outside the club. I think she playing a game with Monkeypaw that she will lose. I need to avoid her. Hopefully now that she's broken in, somebody else can take her off my hands and she will go with other customers. But she's so damn cute, maybe I'll train her slowly.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2204044]I made the report last month about the chick I met on WeChat and Tinder that came to stay for 1000. She wanted to come again a couple nights later but I told her I did not have money. She said that is no problem and asked how much I could give her. I didn't really want her to come so I told her 500. She said okay come get me at 9 pm.[/QUOTE]Congratulations. I am unable to pull that off.
I had to give up on 2 afro girls who had the kind of body I like because they were not happy with 1500 ST in late afternoon. They insisted on 500 more "for taxi". I ended up blocking them from my Whatsapp. Maybe I would have gone along if they had asked for 2000 upfront rather than pulling the taxi scam at the last minute.
The only girls I found easy to bargain down (were I heartless and stingy enough to do so) are the poor souls on Beach Road.