FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=OmarRap;2243143]Great report EastGoing. Thank you for writing and sharing your visit to Oase. Highly entertaining and thoroughly enjoyable.

Appreciate that you had been to Oase before but 5 years before so in effect you were a newbie.

14 hours in the club is a long to be kicking your heels not expecting to have a tryst with a working girl. But you were a man on a mission which you achieved.

Well done in finding AO sex at Oase for the basic price of 50 euros which is the wedding night style sex that senior reporters like Gina insist can be had and to pay more is being upsold.

You have inspired probably a generation to follow in your footsteps.[/QUOTE]LOL OmarRap I didn't say that AO is included in the standard German FKK rate for 50 e for 30 minutes, but kudos to EastGoing for his negotiating skills. Something to learn.

Unless the upselling somehow goes back down to normal, I think that Oase will soon become like the way EG described:

In the evening there was a lesbo show, 2 girls playing also with dildos. The hall was full of men and women watching. It looked like those sorts of discoteques for losers where nobody entering alone will walk out accompanied. Since it was tremendously difficult to see a couple marching off, I couldn't help thinking that those dildos were probably the only chance that those 2 girls had to receive something in the middle of their legs.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2243574]LOL OmarRap I didn't say that AO is included in the standard German FKK rate for 50 e for 30 minutes, but kudos to EastGoing for his negotiating skills. Something to learn.

Unless the upselling somehow goes back down to normal, I think that Oase will soon become like the way EG described:

In the evening there was a lesbo show, 2 girls playing also with dildos. The hall was full of men and women watching. It looked like those sorts of discoteques for losers where nobody entering alone will walk out accompanied. Since it was tremendously difficult to see a couple marching off, I couldn't help thinking that those dildos were probably the only chance that those 2 girls had to receive something in the middle of their legs.[/QUOTE]In the last two years many things have changed in the FKK, definitively the key driver could be less and less new girls entering the P6 scene in Germany, most of the new one have a BF or a pimp, therefore not willing to provide great service. A lot of veteran girls around switching from one club to another or from escort in London or Dublin to another places. Romanian girls took over the control of the clubs and put in place price policy to earn more and give less.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2243456]When I go to Oase (or any other club in Germany) I estimate a budget based on what I think I'll spend (entrance + 50/30 x number of sessions + any extras I might want (I always do extras) and then when arrive at a figure I either double it or withdraw 250 extra. It's always worth having a minimum of 500 euros in your pocket.

(You don't have to spend it all but it gives you peace of mind and options and guaranteed fun).[/QUOTE]Good tip Sybarite. But really is not supportive of the 50 is enough for a session with DFK, BBBJ, DATY, FIV and lick everywhere plus couch time standard.

Is there a place to keep a hand luggage (around 6 kg) at the reception? I will be there on November 13th if anyone want to meet.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2243308]It seems as though Oase is going the way of Palace which will ultimately lead to a decline as Palace did. This is inevitable as the girls are not good businesswomen capable of understanding that you must inculcate a good relationship with your clientele in order to be successful. I am certain that girls in less sharky clubs make a greater profit than those in clubs like Oase and Palace.[/QUOTE]I will agree with your first statement about decline of Oase, although I have no recent experience there.

Even if they don't make a greater profit, some of these "sharky" WGs can be considered smarter businesswomen. Why? Because their objective is to make as much money as possible for the minimal amount of work. On a 16 hour shift, the well-behaved WG might make 1000 EUR but need to spend 8 hours in the room. The sharky WG at a tourist club, on her 16 hour shift, might be able to make 400-500 EUR, but she spends only 2 hours in the room.

One might say, "Well both WGs are working 16 hour shifts, blah, blah. Why doesn't the sharky WG just exhibit some work ethic and maximize her wages? The answer to that is quite clear if you RTFF. While a lot of us mongers are book smart, we are not necessary socially intelligent or pleasant to be around (annoying, emotionally needy, egotistic, misogynistic, delusional, drunk, drugged out).

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2244141]While a lot of us mongers are book smart, we are not necessary socially intelligent or pleasant to be around (annoying, emotionally needy, egotistic, misogynistic, delusional, drunk, drugged out).[/QUOTE]I am at least 3 of those things!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2243308]It seems as though Oase is going the way of Palace which will ultimately lead to a decline as Palace did. This is inevitable as the girls are not good businesswomen capable of understanding that you must inculcate a good relationship with your clientele in order to be successful. I am certain that girls in less sharky clubs make a greater profit than those in clubs like Oase and Palace.[/QUOTE]The girls are not strategic consultants, they just try to earn as much as possible by giving the less possible. Today in Europe there are so many better opportunities than to be a prostitute only the strange girls are ready to get fucked 10 or more times every days by belly and old guys.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2244141]I will agree with your first statement about decline of Oase, although I have no recent experience there.

Even if they don't make a greater profit, some of these "sharky" WGs can be considered smarter businesswomen. Why? Because their objective is to make as much money as possible for the minimal amount of work. On a 16 hour shift, the well-behaved WG might make 1000 EUR but need to spend 8 hours in the room. The sharky WG at a tourist club, on her 16 hour shift, might be able to make 400-500 EUR, but she spends only 2 hours in the room.

One might say, "Well both WGs are working 16 hour shifts, blah, blah. Why doesn't the sharky WG just exhibit some work ethic and maximize her wages? The answer to that is quite clear if you RTFF. While a lot of us mongers are book smart, we are not necessary socially intelligent or pleasant to be around (annoying, emotionally needy, egotistic, misogynistic, delusional, drunk, drugged out).[/QUOTE]Girls who make good business for quite long time, are those who are able to make regulars. Girls who fuck clients have less business when they are not new anymore. Smart girls don t need to hunt clients, but they make them will to return.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2244141]I will agree with your first statement about decline of Oase, although I have no recent experience there.

Even if they don't make a greater profit, some of these "sharky" WGs can be considered smarter businesswomen. Why? Because their objective is to make as much money as possible for the minimal amount of work. On a 16 hour shift, the well-behaved WG might make 1000 EUR but need to spend 8 hours in the room. The sharky WG at a tourist club, on her 16 hour shift, might be able to make 400-500 EUR, but she spends only 2 hours in the room.

One might say, "Well both WGs are working 16 hour shifts, blah, blah. Why doesn't the sharky WG just exhibit some work ethic and maximize her wages? The answer to that is quite clear if you RTFF. While a lot of us mongers are book smart, we are not necessary socially intelligent or pleasant to be around (annoying, emotionally needy, egotistic, misogynistic, delusional, drunk, drugged out).[/QUOTE]My Learned Friend McAdonis, I want to recommend your words to the Reports of Distinction for their resonance through the ages. It is no jape you make.

Many a WG will make the same argument that is it better to work for 2 hours and make 500 than it is to work for 10 hours for 500 by giving couch time, a wedding night for 50 which runs to 40 minutes then add on some clean up time then that is your one hour per customer. That is perfect business sense in Romania.

These girls are doing this job for the money. I don't care what some say that the girls do this since they like the sex. It is money, money, money. If they don't need to work so much for it then that is the business model. Why show any work ethic and slave away taking a pounding from some strange man for the price of a meal in downtown Frankfurt.

The customers are fighting a losing battle. Common sense.

[QUOTE=ThienHoangb4;2244125]Is there a place to keep a hand luggage (around 6 kg) at the reception? I will be there on November 13th if anyone want to meet.[/QUOTE]If you come in the day time and its Andrea on the reception then all your chickens have come home to roost. Andrea knocks off at 5 pm. Ask her nicely and she will store your shit behind the counter. Tell Andrea she looks hot and you like the way she has done her hair. Plain common sense.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2243456]When I go to Oase (or any other club in Germany) I estimate a budget based on what I think I'll spend (entrance + 50/30 x number of sessions + any extras I might want (I always do extras) and then when arrive at a figure I either double it or withdraw 250 extra. It's always worth having a minimum of 500 euros in your pocket.

(You don't have to spend it all but it gives you peace of mind and options and guaranteed fun).[/QUOTE]You do exactly what I do. My friends and I normally carry a budget of 1000 to 1500 euros or more. You never want to be caught short. I can usually can borrow some bucks from my friends if I happen to burn through that budget. Here for a good time and not a long time.

You want to be able to go through the whole porn genre spectrum play book. This is fantasy not reality. You want to be doing it in public in the Kino and not in the bedroom. Hell, I can do that at home. 3 girls giving you a BJ at the same time in the Kino. Only way to go. Common sense.

Yes, good girls make the most money. But even in everyday life, it is not always about making the most money. JNPR mentioned once that he once considered a job offer in the Middle East where he could have made more money. But he reasoned, given the strict anti-porn, anti-paid-sex restrictions there, his life would have been more stressful, and that extra money was not worth it. I wouldn't call him stupid or a bad businessperson.

Everyone has a magic number in their head. This is the amount of money where they know that they will be "comfortable". Beyond that amount, one has to evaluate if that additional money is worth the additional stress.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2244775]Yes, good girls make the most money. But even in everyday life, it is not always about making the most money. JNPR mentioned once that he once considered a job offer in the Middle East where he could have made more money. But he reasoned, given the strict anti-porn, anti-paid-sex restrictions there, his life would have been more stressful, and that extra money was not worth it. I wouldn't call him stupid or a bad businessperson.

Everyone has a magic number in their head. This is the amount of money where they know that they will be "comfortable". Beyond that amount, one has to evaluate if that additional money is worth the additional stress.[/QUOTE]My meaning was: To get long time good business, only girls who make regulars will. For girls who fuck clients, so only one shot rooms, when they are not new anymore and club regulars don t want to repeat with them, then You have on some days less clients than girls, when a girl like Kate is most often full busy, but she never told me anything about money. She is what I call a smart, sexy girl. Who is Kate at Oase? Or Sharks? I take my car and arrive very fast for her, and we will have rooms every week end, when I go with Kate since more than 3 years, not so bad, smart girl and bad guy, but I don t think she thinks I'm a bad guy, despite all bullshit she was said, but she prefers to trust me.

[QUOTE=Bitumen;2244691]....................These girls are doing this job for the money. I don't care what some say that the girls do this since they like the sex. It is money, money, money. If they don't need to work so much for it then that is the business model. Why show any work ethic and slave away taking a pounding from some strange man for the price of a meal in downtown Frankfurt...............[/QUOTE]Men do it for the sex, women do it for the money. Men's love of sex is equivalent to women's love of money. What women get is straightforward and simple, x amount of dollars. What the men get is more complicated, it can vary depending on the woman. Ergo the women have the advantage as she can give less but the man can't.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2244835]Who is Kate at Oase? Or Sharks? [/QUOTE]Mandy is busier and she has more competition at Sharks than Kate ever had at Aca or GT. Helen also does more long rooms than Kate. Kate, even though she is a great provider, benefits from being a big fish in a small pond. She certainly did not have many 3 hour rooms at Aca and at GT I have not noticed her going into many long rooms. I certainly did not have any problems squeezing in a room with her at 1700 on a busy Saturday. With Mandy, you are lucky to fit a 30 min room in between her appointments. Helen stays busy with a Asian client throughout the entire day.

We all know Oase does not have many long room girls. Carla and Alice / Elise being the only long room girls I can recall.