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What is the groups recommendations for which bars and strip clubs I should focus on?

GFE or PSE is important, I'm never been high on blow-jobs. Either you want to do it because you enjoy it or don't bother and that means no CBJ, always BBBJ for me or nothing at all.

Also what are my chances of requesting anal and getting it?

I don't envision myself making the same mistakes, I have been to TJ before (1), also I have mongered before (2), the only difference English isn't as widely spoken as it is in Germany.

I had such high quality service in Germany that I am concerned horrible service or smelly women would kill any desire to return to Mexico. I know what a 30 Euro industrial "fuck" looks like as well and that sounds like Wooterz AB adventure. Only difference being he expected more, I got just what I expected for 30 Euro...

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Should I just focus on Escorts?

I don't know, its roughly the same as I paid in Europe, but I was hoping I could send much less. At the time I paid 100 Euro for an hour or about $120US. Many providers are charging $150-$170 for an hour, I'm trying to see the "value" even if its roughly 30-35% less than what you would find on say Eros locally.

What do you think??

Wooterz,

Awesome trip report. You have already received excellent advice, so I won't repeat it. You had THE typical Adelita experience. I always stop in there, but I can't remember the last time I took a girl up. I would echo the recommendation of trying Hong Kong club. You will probably have a better experience. Lots of opportunity in Tropical and Chavelas as well, but there is a little more finesse involved. (not much, though!). Good luck!

DJ,

You sound fairly experienced, but surely you realize that finding a bar girl in TJ that will offer what you are seeking is rare indeed. I haven't tried any of the escort services, but I am ready to take the plunge. Rates seem to be from $80 up to $160 per hour, and the chicas look HOT! GFE is a virtual certainty. BBBJ is offered by most. Practically all of them earn excellent reviews for service and looks. Many offer greek for an additional fee. I don't think it is permitted to post links to the agencies, but they are not too difficult to find. If you go, be sure to let us know how it goes!

Hi my fellow mongers,

I am planning a trip with a few friends this weekend. Unfortunately the forecast shows rain thur, frid, sat. Nevertheless I am EXCITED, I have been to nogales & rocky point but from all I've read about Tijuana, it seems like theres MUCH more of a selection and ALOT better prices.

Can anyone give me any advise on hotel Nelson that looks like the closes hotel to the action.

Also which spots should I definitely visit, I have Adelitas, Hong Kong & the street action on my agenda (PS. Great job on the map Efjayel, I'm absolutely going to use that)

Any advise on specific girls to see and other hot spots not to miss or any tips..-- any advice would be appreciated to make my first trip to Tijuana one to remember (in a good way)

I was TAD to San Diego last May and I went to Tijuana two times. I thought I made a lot of mistakes when I went there so initially I didn't want to post here but now that I think about it maybe I should so others can give me "corrections" on what I did wrong or whatever. Anyway.

I was staying on the naval base at 32nd street. I was a little scared to go to Tijuana alone because everyone I spoke with said that I shouldn't go alone b/c it's so dangerous and that if I did go alone I absolutely should return BEFORE it gets dark. Also, I couldn't find anyone to go with me there. So, one Friday I decided to just fuck it and go. I went down there at about 4:10pm. I took that red trolley thing that stops in front of the base. Took about 15 min. To get to the border. So after another 15 min. Of deciding whether I should actually cross. I did it. I was finally in Mexico. I stood by the gate for about 10 min. B/c I didn't know which direction to go. All of a sudden this chubby mexican-american girl asks me am I lost. Of course I was! Well, to get to the point she showed me around. (just the main small square and small club area here nearest to the border) Actually I made out w/ her and I tried to get her to go to a hotel w/ me but she said to come back and see on Sat. After about an hour she escorted me back to the gate and I went back to base.

The second time I went to Tijuana was the very next day. I didn't think it was that bad now. This time I met a fellow sailor on the trolley. He was headed home. He lived in Tijuana w/ his gf. He took me to a taxi and told the taxi to take me to the prostitute area. I thought that I was going to finally get laid. So I get there and once again I'm spooked. I see all the girls standing on the wall smiling at me but I keep thinking that if I go into a motel w/ one of these girls one of her male friends is just going to rob me, beat my ass, and take off. I go up and down that one street w/ all the girls on it about 6 times and then I see a lot of the mexican police in full body gear w/ M-16 patrolling the streets. Well, that did it for me. After that, I hopped on the bus, got back to the border and that was it. I returned home to Hawaii two days later. (btw, I do speak spanish as well)

My thoughts on what I did:

I should have:

1. Looked up specific clubs to go to and when. (I hear that picking up local girls isn't really that difficult)
2. Looked up where NOT to go and when.
3. Asked about recent prices & procedures

Hope this helps someone who's undecided about going there for safety reasons.

Country John,

I read your post and was completely blown away. You are so dead on with your analysis it's actually kind of scary. The part about "becoming disappointed by what WAS happening" was exactly what was going through my mind about 5 seconds into the sex, something I couldn't quite convey in my original post. Further, you're absolutely right when you mention Claudia would fuck my brains out. I can't believe I overlooked some huge indicators such as body language and basic human interaction. For example, Claudia came up from behind me (I couldn't see her) and gave me a hug. When she sat down next to me, she had huge, genuine smile and told me "Abrázame, " like she actually wanted me to. She was VERY grateful when I bought her the drink, she kept thanking me and was constantly touching my arms, chest, side, back, etc. Also, she was very playful and kept repeating my name and acting as if we were having sex. When I told her "maybe later, " she commanded me to give her a kiss on the cheek before she went. In contrast, Lucy (the blonde) seemed cold as hell now that I think of it.

I realize exactly why I didn't enjoy the sex at Adelitas. Sex is supposed to be pleasurable, something that brings us joy. That's why we, as mongers, go out of our way to get it. Having sex with "Loosey" brought me no joy, it was exhausting and tiring. 25 minutes in, I felt as if I hadn't even started yet. Whether this could have been accredited to her looseness, her stink, her aloof attitude, my nervousness, or my slight inebriation, I don't know for sure. It wasn't so much that I was expecting a GFE. I just wanted to get my rocks off with a tight, good-looking, great-smelling babe. I got 1 out of the 3 which wasn't enough for me. My next trip, I'm going to go with a slightly more mature, less attractive female who is actually "in the mood" in hopes of receiving a better experience. I will definitely follow your advice the next time I visit Tijuana and I'll make sure to post about my experience. Thanks man.

Also, thanks Phordphan and FJL for your advice, I'll definitely remember that.

DJ, I just want to point out, my experience isn't exactly indicative of all that Tijuana has to offer. There are other clubs, bars, and brothels that exist in Tijuana and even more places as you venture out into other parts of Mexico. I'll let the other guys give you the lowdown on where to go because I don't really know myself.

Keep it real guys,

Wooterz

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[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]What is the groups recommendations for which bars and strip clubs I should focus on?

GFE or PSE is important, I'm never been high on blow-jobs. Either you want to do it because you enjoy it or don't bother and that means no CBJ, always BBBJ for me or nothing at all.

Also what are my chances of requesting anal and getting it?

I don't envision myself making the same mistakes, I have been to TJ before (1), also I have mongered before (2), the only difference English isn't as widely spoken as it is in Germany.

I had such high quality service in Germany that I am concerned horrible service or smelly women would kill any desire to return to Mexico. I know what a 30 Euro industrial "fuck" looks like as well and that sounds like Wooterz AB adventure. Only difference being he expected more, I got just what I expected for 30 Euro...

or

Should I just focus on Escorts?

I don't know, its roughly the same as I paid in Europe, but I was hoping I could send much less. At the time I paid 100 Euro for an hour or about $120US. Many providers are charging $150-$170 for an hour, I'm trying to see the "value" even if its roughly 30-35% less than what you would find on say Eros locally.

What do you think??[/QUOTE]
I can't comment on escorts because I don't use them. I just think they're poor value for money. That's just me.

The main issues with TJ, as I see them, are the language barrier and the time needed. If you're looking for GFE you almost HAVE to speak some Spanish.

You'll have better luck, IMHO, by focusing on CC, or, perhaps, Tropical or Las Chavelas. CC has a much less "commercial" feel and the girls at TB tend to have somewhat lower mileage. I think GFE is going to be easier to obtain at one of these venues.

PSE is going to be a little more elusive. I find that it's a lot more likely with repeats. If the girls knows you, and likes you, the chances for PSE go up. But YMMV and you can always get lucky!

Anal's hit and miss. It's all a numbers game. Ask. Sooner or later one will say yes.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]I can't comment on escorts because I don't use them. I just think they're poor value for money. That's just me.

The main issues with TJ, as I see them, are the language barrier and the time needed. If you're looking for GFE you almost HAVE to speak some Spanish.

You'll have better luck, IMHO, by focusing on CC, or, perhaps, Tropical or Las Chavelas. CC has a much less "commercial" feel and the girls at TB tend to have somewhat lower mileage. I think GFE is going to be easier to obtain at one of these venues.

PSE is going to be a little more elusive. I find that it's a lot more likely with repeats. If the girls knows you, and likes you, the chances for PSE go up. But YMMV and you can always get lucky!

Anal's hit and miss. It's all a numbers game. Ask. Sooner or later one will say yes.[/QUOTE]
Is it just me or what?
I have found CC is void of girls and customers most of the time. Tropical has low quality girls and not much selection. I like Chevales for a local feel and enjoy it for a break, but the girl choice is less than average.
You didn’t mention HK. It‘s always been my favorite and now it’s even better with the new layout. The quality is on average better than the other places mentioned and it has more of a strip club atmosphere. This is where I have found all of my GFE and PSE.
Yes, Spanish is a big plus for the GFE . If a gal peaks my interest I buy her a ficha drink, talk to her for a while. They tend to like it when you engage them with more than the terms of bodily fluid exchange.
I have yet to get a PSE with a first timer; it’s always been with a repeat.

[QUOTE=Surfnk9]Is it just me or what?
I have found CC is void of girls and customers most of the time. Tropical has low quality girls and not much selection. I like Chevales for a local feel and enjoy it for a break, but the girl choice is less than average.
You didn’t mention HK. It‘s always been my favorite and now it’s even better with the new layout. The quality is on average better than the other places mentioned and it has more of a strip club atmosphere. This is where I have found all of my GFE and PSE.
Yes, Spanish is a big plus for the GFE . If a gal peaks my interest I buy her a ficha drink, talk to her for a while. They tend to like it when you engage them with more than the terms of bodily fluid exchange.
I have yet to get a PSE with a first timer; it’s always been with a repeat.[/QUOTE]

CC is a shadow of its former self. :( I've always had much more in the GFE experience there, but you now need to go pretty late, and I understand mid-week is not good at all. Lots of my trips are daytime now, and there is now NOBODY in CC anytime before 8, or so.

I've seen some pretty good ones in Tropical. I've had a couple of really good sessions out of a couple of the gals, and the prices are good. I didn't think the quality of girls was much less than Las Chavelas. Speaking of which, there are tons of nice ladies at LC these days. Now, I'll admit that TB and LC tend to cater more to locals, and the girls do tend to look more like what the locals prefer, which is a little on the chubby side. But there are plenty of diamonds. Especially if you're looking more for good experience and less for model-quality looks.

I didn't mention HK to DJ4M because he was looking for GFE/PSE. I like HK a lot. But it seems to me to have gotten a lot more "commercial" since the remodel. I still think it's what all strip clubs should be like (except for the pesky meseros), but GFEs, IMHO, are a little harder to come by. Not Adelita's hard by any means.

Yeah, most of my PSEs have been with repeats.

I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.

[QUOTE=Country John]I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.[/QUOTE]

Thanks John

Adelita's is known to many people, mostly Mexican-Americans (in my experience) and that name recognition does bring alot of business, positive or negative results not withstanding.

The term "Fuck Factory" comes up often from people I recognize as TJ regulars, not excited about that at all.

I have noted your recommendations Phordphan and I thank you again.

I think I will delve into Escorts a bit, maybe.

Finally, I will be going next week, mid week more than likely and I would guess that showing late in the morning, early afternoon would be ideal???

I will have a full report when I return...

[QUOTE=Country John]I might be off thread, but PhordPhan is right. CC is like a museum. Dark, quiet etc.

I think the reason is that Adelita's despite having such a poor reputation has the same advantage Disney does, and that is "name recognition."

IMHO, Chicago club is a better representation of the old days in the Zona. Adelitas and Miami/Hong Kong have renovated and with it took the nostalgia out of the place. The "romance" is gone.

If more guys visited Chicago Club, the girls would work there but unfortunately most mongers INSIST on going to Adelitas, therefore they have all the business. A pity really.

I'd like to start a Chicago Club Revival. It would be a happening place if people could just forget about getting clipped at Adelita's and go for some real game.

Adelita's is a "Stepford Wives" kind of robotic fuck factory. I go there with my girl to look at the nice pussy, but I would not monger there. I would monger at CC first, then slip over to HK, up to Rio Verde back down the hill to Tropical etc. I'd go to Adelita's for a beer, then leave.[/QUOTE]

CC drink, ficha prices and exchange rate is very unfriendly to local Mexicans and most gringos too. A fincha paid in pesos is crazy high especially when down the street the bars are having 2 for 1 beer and some 21 peso beers. Have specials and if they do SAY IT OUT LOUD in front of the club with big glowy banner or something. Haveing one ok looking new mesera and 10 fat little ones sitting around is prob not gonna help the bottom line too much, Guys dont want to be hassled even more for drinks if nothings going on.

The chicas are nicer upstairs usually and no 20 minute knocks in Jalos but the depth of talent is way smaller then AB's. When the top 5-6 are sitting with someone or arriba'd theres not too much talent left over most nights. Often the music is too loud to really talk much to the chicas and get to know each other, even when there is no one danceing.

CC night manager needs to know about keeping momentum in his club. AB and HK always have dancers or some sort of eye candy going on stage while CC often doest start dancers till 11:30pm on Fri-Sat. Too many long dead times between dancers when one is arribad that kills momentum instead of quickly moving on to the next one available and popping the upstairs chica in later to dance when she gets back.

Kinda of vicious cycle the past few years also with less hot chicas visible less guys show up and that causes less chicas to show up... CC has had alot of nice talent start for a little while then leave for other clubs or cities cause the money wasnt there.

Those curtained booths should just be converted into a big sofa with a table and a big TV and heater/AC for curling up with a chica(s) and watching sports/soaps with a brews or something hehe.

With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks

[QUOTE=Surfnk9]With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks[/QUOTE]

The casa de cambio on Constitucion, adjacent to the police substation, tends to have the best rates. Second best would be the one right inside the border, on the left as you walk towards the taxi turnstiles.

[QUOTE=Phordphan]The casa de cambio on Constitucion, adjacent to the police substation, tends to have the best rates. Second best would be the one right inside the border, on the left as you walk towards the taxi turnstiles.[/QUOTE]
Muchas Gracias

[QUOTE=Surfnk9]With the exchange rate better now, where would a good place to get a good rate be?
In the past I traveled further south and did the exchange before heading across the border even though I knew the rate wasn't the best available. It was for convenience sake. I’m heading down in a few days and with the economy the way it is, every peso counts. Plus it will be nice dealing in the local currency. Thanks[/QUOTE]


If you plan to spend $200 then use the ATM. You get a better rate than a casa de cambio - even with the surcharge.

cc= $200x13.9 = 2780
ATM=$195x14.8=2886

So go to the ATM and get $3000 pesos and shopp til you drop.

Also avoid the CC's with five digits in their rate. They are such a rip and target the drunk and stupid. They will post a rate like 13099. The '0' is not a decimal point. You think your getting 13.99:1 when youare getting 13.099:1. One is on the west side on Constitution.

SDC