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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2422984]Thanks brother. They look like every other freaking chick in PI. What is the big deal? Why are you guys groveling over these particular chicks that are marked for Koreans? Like I said, they do the same thing with the book in Pattaya. Does not mean the girls are anything special.[/QUOTE]I think the problem for a lot of guys is they rely too much on the bars for their action. If these girls are being used in the korean 'premium' booking system, then they're not in the bars, or at least not in the bars for long. You're right that these are like any other good looking or decent looking girls in the philipppines. My advice would be to stop trying to compete with koreans in their bars and concentrate on the online / outside the bar scene. The same girls will meet you when they're not on duty, there are only so many koreans to go around, and filipinas are way too sexual to limit themselves to one group of men.

I'the be more worried when the Chinese start sweeping up the AC talent in their own booking systems LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2422984]Thanks brother. They look like every other freaking chick in PI. What is the big deal? Why are you guys groveling over these particular chicks that are marked for Koreans? Like I said, they do the same thing with the book in Pattaya. Does not mean the girls are anything special.[/QUOTE]I guess the boys can't deal with the rejection or feeling like 2nd class. Finally here with their powerful purchasing power $$$ and can't buy it!

Life sucks in AC. For some.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2422972]This is standard MO in Korea as well, vans full of girls waiting for customers to book them. When they're done servicing the customers, they return to the vans..[/QUOTE]More standard Korean MO. When they're done with the workers, who knows how they return them.

[QUOTE=RainMania;2422993]I think the problem for a lot of guys is they rely too much on the bars for their action. If these girls are being used in the korean 'premium' booking system, then they're not in the bars, or at least not in the bars for long. You're right that these are like any other good looking or decent looking girls in the philipppines. My advice would be to stop trying to compete with koreans in their bars and concentrate on the online / outside the bar scene. The same girls will meet you when they're not on duty, there are only so many koreans to go around, and filipinas are way too sexual to limit themselves to one group of men.

I'the be more worried when the Chinese start sweeping up the AC talent in their own booking systems LOL.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you on that. Don't worry about how the Koreans do their thing. I look at it like this: they came in, started hotels and restaurants and throw money around unnecessarily at the "lighter pinays" or "better looking pinays". So naturally a lot of gals will flock to them or some places make concessions for Korean customers.

But there are still many good looking ones out there for the taking. We should be more focused on outside the bars (malls, restaurants, stores, etc) and of course online. Many of us usually only have a short time (less than 30 days) so I can understand not wanting to put in work. But that online market is huge as we know because the pinays spend so much time on there. Lay the ground work through online chats weeks before getting to AC. (90% of my action) Then you won't need so many bar fines. But hey, who am I to tell a fella how to spend his time and money! LOL!

[QUOTE=LaydeeLover;2423082]Totally agree with you on that. Don't worry about how the Koreans do their thing. I look at it like this: they came in, started hotels and restaurants and throw money around unnecessarily at the "lighter pinays" or "better looking pinays". So naturally a lot of gals will flock to them or some places make concessions for Korean customers.

But there are still many good looking ones out there for the taking. We should be more focused on outside the bars (malls, restaurants, stores, etc) and of course online. Many of us usually only have a short time (less than 30 days) so I can understand not wanting to put in work. But that online market is huge as we know because the pinays spend so much time on there. Lay the ground work through online chats weeks before getting to AC. (90% of my action) Then you won't need so many bar fines. But hey, who am I to tell a fella how to spend his time and money! LOL![/QUOTE]I think you will find that Koreans are also hunting in big numbers in the streets / malls / online etc.

A pinay will always choose a high spending Korean over any westerner, especially the type of westerner that is seen in Angeles city.

The facts are that which ever route a westerner takes in Angeles city he will only be able to attract the type of lower girls the Koreans don't want.

[QUOTE=LaydeeLover;2423082]But there are still many good looking ones out there for the taking.[/QUOTE]Where?

Need to do a lot of looking for that nowadays.

Sorry but the vast majority are single moms with floppy tits and serious baby damage, lots of ugly tattoos, rotten teeth, and most especially lots and lots of fat chicks.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2423557]Where?

Need to do a lot of looking for that nowadays.

Sorry but the vast majority are single moms with floppy tits and serious baby damage, lots of ugly tattoos, rotten teeth, and most especially lots and lots of fat chicks.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I was there for a single night last week and, though I wasn't really in the market, saw no one I would have even considered and I went into several bars. My friend finally found someone to his liking in one of the small bars in front of the entrance to Walking Street. Granted, I was there on a Sunday night so the choices may have been narrower than usual.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2423571]Agreed. I was there for a single night last week and, though I wasn't really in the market, saw no one I would have even considered and I went into several bars. My friend finally found someone to his liking in one of the small bars in front of the entrance to Walking Street. Granted, I was there on a Sunday night so the choices may have been narrower than usual.

GE.[/QUOTE]Sadly, that IS the usual.

A lot of bars are filled with women I wouldn't fuck for free.

Things have gotten really bad, but I guess standards have fallen so much that it doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2423557]Where?

Need to do a lot of looking for that nowadays.

Sorry but the vast majority are single moms with floppy tits and serious baby damage, lots of ugly tattoos, rotten teeth, and most especially lots and lots of fat chicks.[/QUOTE]LOL, you are asking for supermodel for 3000 barfine.

Very few pretty young girls with no babies come to Angeles anymore. They can make lots of money at high end places and from in call companies. They do not need to do pretend dance all night. Just go fuck somebody for 20 minutes and leave.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2423578]LOL, you are asking for supermodel for 3000 barfine.

Very few pretty young girls with no babies come to Angeles anymore. They can make lots of money at high end places and from in call companies. They do not need to do pretend dance all night. Just go fuck somebody for 20 minutes and leave.[/QUOTE]I'm not asking for anything. I am describing the current reality.

I don't care if they want 3000 Pesos or 3, I'm not paying an overweight single mom with floppy tits, rotten teeth and bad tattoos for sex.

As a side note, 3000 PHP is 54 Euros, which is 4 more than you pay a pretty fit woman with no baby damage in Western Europe. Something is wrong here.

I have gone to AC over many many years and have seen the consistent deterioration in both looks and service.

The standard now is a rubbish looker, tattooed, 54 Euros and short time. Not my scene. If others want that, not my business.

There are so many beautiful sweet girls outside the bar scene in most of SE Asia.

Just dress well, smile a lot, have a nice story-line, do not be pushy, smell good and they will come your way for curiosity and adventure.

Hi FP,

Thanks for your optimistic thoughts.

Does your hunting method requiring social media (fb / whatsapp / wechat / PL / DIA) or random looking around in public areas?

Pray tell.

Victor.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;2423803]I have gone to AC over many many years and have seen the consistent deterioration in both looks and service.

The standard now is a rubbish looker, tattooed, 54 Euros and short time. Not my scene. If others want that, not my business.

There are so many beautiful sweet girls outside the bar scene in most of SE Asia.

Just dress well, smile a lot, have a nice story-line, do not be pushy, smell good and they will come your way for curiosity and adventure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RickRock;2423718]I'm not asking for anything. I am describing the current reality.

I don't care if they want 3000 Pesos or 3, I'm not paying an overweight single mom with floppy tits, rotten teeth and bad tattoos for sex.

As a side note, 3000 PHP is 54 Euros, which is 4 more than you pay a pretty fit woman with no baby damage in Western Europe. Something is wrong here.[/QUOTE]3000 pesos should only be spent in LT. If you are paying 3 k for short time, well then you suck at negotiating. Stop giving these bars money for bar fines. Find the girl you like, offer her 3 k for LT after her shift. Trust me, she will most likely jump on that faster than you know. On 3500 bar fine they only make 40-50 percent. So they are only getting max 2 k to leave with you on bar fine. I worked this system at perimeter bars where they close at 9-11 and got great response every night. You may want to leave the option open to a few girls at different bars, but it worked every time for me. Girls get the full share, they get a better bed to sleep and and most decent dudes will buy them something to eat. Not the perfect system for everyone, but just my 2 cents.

2. What country in Western Europe has 50ST? All that I am reading on blogs is 100-150. With Coronavirus lurking my May trip might need to be altered to Europe (Eastern or Western). I'm way to white to go to South America alone.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2423718]I'm not asking for anything. I am describing the current reality.

I don't care if they want 3000 Pesos or 3, I'm not paying an overweight single mom with floppy tits, rotten teeth and bad tattoos for sex.

As a side note, 3000 PHP is 54 Euros, which is 4 more than you pay a pretty fit woman with no baby damage in Western Europe. Something is wrong here.[/QUOTE]The quality of the product is not matching the price they are asking. If the bars want to have 3000-3500 peso bar fines then they need to get girls that are worth that price. They are putting 1000 peso street girls up on the stages now and trying to pass them off has models. Total bullshit how slim the pickings are now a days. The other day I go into Badboy and I see a very good looking girl. 19 yrs old no baby very nice. I buy her a drink and she was a no go out only drinks girl. Fuckin Bullshit. I bet If I was Korean she would have gone out. That's how the state of AC is now a days thou, its not going to get better either. Lucky for me I got some facebook regulars to keep me happy BUT getting new girls is becoming a disappointing adventure. Like Rick Rock said Plenty of fatties and uglies with sagging tits, chewed up bubble gum bellies and bad tattoos if that's you thing. BF for these girls need to be 1000 tops cause that's what they are worth street girl prices.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston;2423803]I have gone to AC over many many years and have seen the consistent deterioration in both looks and service.

The standard now is a rubbish looker, tattooed, 54 Euros and short time. Not my scene. If others want that, not my business.

There are so many beautiful sweet girls outside the bar scene in most of SE Asia.

Just dress well, smile a lot, have a nice story-line, do not be pushy, smell good and they will come your way for curiosity and adventure.[/QUOTE]Getting girls outside the bar scene takes time and effort that most guys don't have. The point is the prices here are equal to what they are back home so why come here anymore there is no value in it.