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[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1867271]In my mind, if I gave her 4000 pesos it would legitimize her scam and maybe she would do this again to another gringo. I felt that with my language skills and the numerous trips I have to the DR it was my duty to challenge this Chica.[/QUOTE]You know, you are using the same argument that this poster used to use, to explain why he "would never" give in to puta's demands, on principle alone. LOL.
I got crucified by the same crowd for giving her an extra 12 bucks to get rid of her and stop all the drama.
I hope this guy has the balls to explain his sudden "epiphany" LOL.
How about it Mr Enternational ? :)
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[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1867273]Yeah, when I run back through it in my mind I should have went with my gut and walked away. In the DR if something doesn't feel right, you should walk away. Well I will be away from the DR for a while. This last trip just didn't light my fuse the same as previous. I'll be heading to Colombia in 2 months so hopefully that will be a nice change of pace.[/QUOTE]Don't tar Sosua with one bad experience.
But what has happened to Sosua, is that it has changed over the last few years, from an Island fantasy paradise, where you could get a beautiful girl that didn't want to leave you, and wanted to be everything for you, to a crass, commercial, quick, bait and switch hooker haven.
Mr GoGo (see his forum) warned me about this, and I had to be dragged, kicking and screaming to reality.
(Fortunately I retained a relationship with an ex semi pro who I met back in the salad days and who remembers Sosua like I do :)
As Mr GG says, there's still a lot of good stuff in the D.R., outside of Sosua.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1867354]Don't tar Sosua with one bad experience.
But what has happened to Sosua, is that it has changed over the last few years, from an Island fantasy paradise, where you could get a beautiful girl that didn't want to leave you, and wanted to be everything for you, to a crass, commercial, quick, bait and switch hooker haven.
Mr GoGo (see his forum) warned me about this, and I had to be dragged, kicking and screaming to reality.
(Fortunately I retained a relationship with an ex semi pro who I met back in the salad days and who remembers Sosua like I do :)
As Mr GG says, there's still a lot of good stuff in the D.R., outside of Sosua.[/QUOTE]This little incident had nothing to do with why I am not going back. I am just simply a little bored of it. That's why I am headed to Colombia in 2 months, I needed a change of scenery.
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[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1867375]This little incident had nothing to do with why I am not going back. I am just simply a little bored of it. That's why I am headed to Colombia in 2 months, I needed a change of scenery.[/QUOTE]After approximately 20 consecutive trips to the DR I'm ready for a change of pace as well. Mr. GG and BBQ ribs have been telling me for a long time to move on. But I was happy in my little tropical playground. Sigh LOL. But I'll be in cartagena in July dogg! Where in Colombia are you headed?
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[QUOTE=BrotherP;1867385]After approximately 20 consecutive trips to the DR I'm ready for a change of pace as well. Mr. GG and BBQ ribs have been telling me for a long time to move on. But I was happy in my little tropical playground. Sigh LOL. But I'll be in cartagena in July dogg! Where in Colombia are you headed?[/QUOTE]I'll be in Medellin in June.
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Jay Balanty
For New Garden this is business as usual. This happens all the time and they know how to deal with it. It is, regrettably, the most common scam played on us. When it comes time to pay chicas I get dressed and walk out of the room. Once they are outside I close the door behind them and pay up. When they start to argue I just walk away. If they follow I go to security and complain and it is in their hands. I just walk out into the streets or back into my room. If you are really generous tip security for their help. The chicas forget in two or three days, and even if she wanted to fulfill her threat we all have to go home sometime and not bump into her for a while.
Now if they do not leave the room just try to convince them or call security to escort them out.
I just had a similar experience. I asked for BBBJ for DOP 500. Well, we did so much in bed that I was willing to pay her DOP 1500. Well, sure enough, she jumped to DOP 2000. I refused and she continued arguing. Well, got dressed, walked to the door, waited outside to give her her money. She threatened not to leave the room, all this time having doubts whether I was going to pay her asking price. Once out of the room, I closed the door, paid her, and she begins to argue. I walk away, argument over. I did give her DOP 1600. Probably the only mistake I made. All this is unfortunate considering that she was fantastic in bed. If it wasn't for this misunderstanding I would do her again. Iron ally, she has been trying very hard to get my attention, for the last several days. I just ignore her.
As for hotels, there are only so many of them in Sosua. For each hotel she is banned from she will be losing money. In the long run she is only hurting herself and will have to move on since, pulling this stunt, no one will allow her through the gate. Thanks for sharing.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1867262]Jay, you should have just given her the 4000 pesos for short time. You don't want to have any problems down there. Besides, it is much cheaper than back home.[/QUOTE]I'm actually surprised you recommended he cave Mr. E. Had he done so, she probably would have pull the same shit on you and your boy when you rolled into town, as well as the next unsuspecting gringo who she feels will give her the money because he doesn't want to cause any trouble.
Reading that actually made my blood boil. Had she told me 1500 beforehand and then 4000 afterwards, I probably would have been arrested for tossing her ass over the balcony.
EDIT: GrownMan pointed out the sarcasm in your post. And I should have known better, hahaha. I believe you would have been insulted that she even quoted you 1500!
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We are all different, and have different risk levels we can deal with. Our physical strength, ability to deal with adversity and in some cases trading punches is different. So what works for someone may not work for another.
Enjoy and go home safe. This guy was walking on PP Malecon early this year 2016 with his wife. He was wearing gold chain and two guys wanted that. He held on to it, poor soul, RIP.
[URL]http://www.bestgore.com/murder/germany-tourist-murder-malecon-puerto-plata-dominican-republic/[/URL]
Chica situation is different. He should not have displayed a gold chain. I get that. Just want you to know what can happen in a shit hole of a place.
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[QUOTE=Taboc;1867553]We are all different, and have different risk levels we can deal with. Our physical strength, ability to deal with adversity and in some cases trading punches is different. So what works for someone may not work for another.
[/QUOTE]You got it!
Some of us like peace and harmony on our hard earned vacations, while some like a little more excitement to get the adrenaline flowing. That's life.
A lot is said here about the bait and switch putas, and that is true, but there's also another side to at least some of these confrontations.
There's a popular hotel there where the manager arbitrarily filters out known "complainers", who get into more than their share of trouble with putas.
They find their reservations not being honored or sent up the street to another hotel.
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[QUOTE=JayBalanty;1867255]Gentlemen, I just returned from a trip to Sosua and Blackbeards. ... I ask $1,500?? She says yes..... Gives a lack luster BBBJ, then on goes the rubber and rides for a little, then tells me to get on top. She basically star fished until I was done. Ok, all finished.... From the balcony I can see this lunatic fighting with the two of them for about 20 minutes. She finally leaves. When I see this, I feel bad and. Go down to the reception area and tell them how sorry I am, I even bring them both a cigar to apologize. That's when the crazy chica appears in the doorway and says. "When you leave this Hotel, I will be waiting and I am going to stab you". ....[/QUOTE]Quite confusing. A chica saying something like that means either of two things: there was a genuine error where she said 4000 and you mistook for 1500 or she thought you agreed to an upsell in the room. She was much too adamant for a cheating chica. Anyway I'm here in MDE avoiding the SDQ dramas but for how much longer? There are hoards of Americans coming here now and who knows how much they may be negatively affecting the mentality of the Paisas. I've started looking for a new destination. El Salvador? One less Yankee in MDE.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1867821]Quite confusing. A chica saying something like that means either of two things: there was a genuine error where she said 4000 and you mistook for 1500 or she thought you agreed to an upsell in the room. She was much too adamant for a cheating chica. Anyway I'm here in MDE avoiding the SDQ dramas but for how much longer? There are hoards of Americans coming here now and who knows how much they may be negatively affecting the mentality of the Paisas. I've started looking for a new destination. El Salvador? One less Yankee in MDE.[/QUOTE]No, when she saw how happy and surprised he was at the 1500 peso price, she realized she under-valued herself. She knew he had already paid more and she was willing to go "all in" on this guy. She stayed in the bathroom thirty minutes to strengthen her case that she had put in time for extra duties to security. She would lose face in the beauty salon when other girls were bragging about getting double what she got. I still don't know why he went back down to security to watch the argument after he was dismissed. I can only guess that he is really a nice dude but maybe also the girl saw weakness and decided to exploit it.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1867821]Quite confusing. A chica saying something like that means either of two things: there was a genuine error where she said 4000 and you mistook for 1500 or she thought you agreed to an upsell in the room. She was much too adamant for a cheating chica. [/QUOTE]It is not confusing at all. That is how they run their game. You are supposed to be adamant when you are trying to hustle someone. Just like when the girl agreed to 1500 all night with me. Then in the morning she changed it to 2500. When I was explaining it to the maid in her presence she changed once again to 3500. So when the police came, which she wanted, the maid was a witness that she went from saying 2500 to 3500. So she painted her own picture as a liar. Plus she said I didn't give her any money and the maid went in the room and found the 1500 that I had given her (before she started tussling with me) on the bed.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1867934]It is not confusing at all. That is how they run their game. You are supposed to be adamant when you are trying to hustle someone. Just like when the girl agreed to 1500 all night with me. Then in the morning she changed it to 2500. When I was explaining it to the maid in her presence she changed once again to 3500. So when the police came, which she wanted, the maid was a witness that she went from saying 2500 to 3500. So she painted her own picture as a liar. Plus she said I didn't give her any money and the maid went in the room and found the 1500 that I had given her (before she started tussling with me) on the bed.[/QUOTE]I have hobbyed in over forty countries. I have been hobbying in the Caribbean for over forty years and find Caribbean women to be the most dangerous of all. I have been hustled in a myriad of ways by chicas. Of course they are adamant when they are trying to cheat you but for a chica to be cheating and to threaten to kill when she does not succeed just seems a bit too much to me. She totally lost her head and jeopardized her chances of ever escorting another John to that very popular hotel in the future, only an insane person would do that knowing that they are in the wrong and from everything else that he said about her she does not seem mad. There may be more to this story.
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Trip Review
I had a great trip. I think my actions were prompted by the fact I only had three days. I did 13 girls in the 3 days. Only one of the sessions was sub par. I had to have my manicure girl who had great tits. All the others sessions were off the chain. I used massages to get the girls in the mood. I got great reviews from the ladies and giving massages turns me on so I am ready to rumble. I got into a pattern of having my 1st girl at 1 pm another at 6 pm another from Rumbas about 10 pm and finally the night cap 2:30 Classicos. I did not bust a nut at every session but I was able to get hard on and have satisfying sex with the ladies. My form improved with practice and I felt I was bringing it like a big boy. I go to the gym 4 days a week. I use oil for the massages and lube during the sex. If the girls like to smoke they melt during the massage.
And about half do. They melt when they get the massage. I had a nice variety of girls. A first for me was Santiago chicas. All three of them were excellent. I had my 1st sub par Haitian girl. I picked her up for a morning massage for me and she pushed for sex . was not good.
The bottom line for the money spent I had an amazing time. Finally shot out to casa Cayana or Sosua Sunset. Accomodations , food and location all 10s. I enjoyed talking with the guys at breakfast. Sosua is not broke fellows. It is alive and well. I was seeing many younger guys patroling the streets but it is their time.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;1867984]I have hobbyed in over forty countries. I have been hobbying in the Caribbean for over forty years and find Caribbean women to be the most dangerous of all. I have been hustled in a myriad of ways by chicas. Of course they are adamant when they are trying to cheat you but for a chica to be cheating and to threaten to kill when she does not succeed just seems a bit too much to me. She totally lost her head and jeopardized her chances of ever escorting another John to that very popular hotel in the future, only an insane person would do that knowing that they are in the wrong and from everything else that he said about her she does not seem mad. There may be more to this story.[/QUOTE]Mongering is not for the faint of heart. At its worst, it's the only human activity where you would bring a poverty stricken Third World complete stranger, off a sleazy street, bring them into your bed, and hope they don't rob you.
Hell's Angels, the Mafia, El Chapo and the cartel, it takes years, if ever, before they would even let you near them :)
But at its best, a few common sense precautions that you would use at home in your own city, and you can be completely safe.
The only time I got "gamed" in 8 years, was when I got stupid and didn't take my usual precautions. And even then it never escalated to anything more than a soap opera.