Angeles City

Hi SB,

Thanks for the awesome report.

Gives me motivation to try going.

Vic.

[QUOTE=StudBucket;2428884]Hello Guys,

I just got back from 11 nights in Angeles (been there before several times) and wanted to post some general observations:

1) Just when I thought the quality of girls in the bars could not deteriorate more, it did. OMG. Bars like Dollhouse, Atlantis, that used to always have a handful of 7's or even one 8 quality girl, now have nothing but 4's, 5, or 6's at best. I found one decent gal in Viking and Lollipop, but other than that I had to resort to mongering from Hiso and street.) The Perimeter bar areas (up by Ice Bar, Det 5, Candy, etc) are a complete waste of time in my opinion, and quality of the girls is shit. I guess the older expats and mongers who are less choosy, no offense, keep these places afloat but I cannot understand how some of these places stay in business. Its really heartbreaking the bars are so bad as it leaves me less options.

2) As others have noted, girls that my friends and I call "Korean Hunters" were more open to saying Hello, not giving you dirty looks or ignoring you, so attitudes have changed. Just for shits and giggles, my friend and I (both of us from USA) walked into Hammer nightclub (ground zero for Korean hunters) and started eyeing up the girls and chatting them. For the first time, several wanted to go with us and talk with us. That is not to say that we would stay there anymore, as this place has left a bad taste in my mouth.

3) Mondays through Thursdays are hit and miss for crowds and Hiso and streets can be really dead. This became a challenge, so on a long trip you need some regulars as backups for these slow nights..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2428873]I'm not sure when you visited EDSA last, but I've never bar fined a girl like you describe. I haven't even seen them there. The lower class bars in Burgos may have a few, I don't know as I only go to the top tier bars (Kojax / XoXo / Plan be, etc).

ST in EDSA is USD 60 to bar, USD 60 to girl, doen't equate to 200. I'm ST only; I don't sleep well with a stranger next to me.

And I thought I was a pessimist.[/QUOTE]As usual it is all in the attitude.

There is no set price for Angeles freelancers they range from free to many thousands of pesos so getting the price sorted is what every seasoned Phills monger does first, why, because they know of how easily things can go downhill when arguing about money with pinays.

Should one anger a pinay to the point of her calling the police, then it won't turn out well for the punter, prostitution in the phills carries a mandatory 20 year sentence for the punter, the girls and police know this so can very easily set up for a big pay day between the girl and the police.

Have to fully agree with you that the quality of girls in most bars are very very low, especially the expat bars of perimeter road.

Have noticed recently (last 20 days) not only a decrease in Korean punters but a decrease in punters across the board, even the girls seem to be much less in numbers whether bar girls or freelancers, this virus thing seems to have many spooked.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2428873]I'm not sure when you visited EDSA last, but I've never bar fined a girl like you describe. I haven't even seen them there. The lower class bars in Burgos may have a few, I don't know as I only go to the top tier bars (Kojax / XoXo / Plan be, etc).

ST in EDSA is USD 60 to bar, USD 60 to girl, doen't equate to 200. [/QUOTE]Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.

What's the barfine at Kojax and Plan be? Then add to that what the women want to be paid (barfines don't include price of sex on Burgos).

Blaqui already did the math.

[QUOTE]- Just the barfine is 2900 to 3500 depending on whether you know the ropes and can negotiate well.

- Nothing less than 4000 for the girl. Some may demand 5000 too.[/QUOTE]Add a couple of drinks so you can bar hop and actually find a woman without baby belly, saggy tits, fat, stretch marks, rotten teeth and / or tattoos. You will arrive at around 200 USD for ST. Or, in other words, four times what you would pay in Western Europe for same service.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2428798]You claim you were in club Asia in the last few days and report on what you saw, please correct me if I am wrong but club Asia closed down multiple months ago so how were you recently there? I'm confused.[/QUOTE]Yes I meant club X and I had no idea Club Asia closed. There was girls outside but it was for them Dragon club on top of Club Asia. Wonder why they closed it. I'm here now. Also a few clubs have new names. Weird.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2429096]Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.

What's the barfine at Kojax and Plan be? Then add to that what the women want to be paid (barfines don't include price of sex on Burgos).

Blaqui already did the math.

Add a couple of drinks so you can bar hop and actually find a woman without baby belly, saggy tits, fat, stretch marks, rotten teeth and / or tattoos. You will arrive at around 200 USD for ST. Or, in other words, four times what you would pay in Western Europe for same service.[/QUOTE]RR while the math is right. To have a great night out at Burgos can cost north of $200, I have to disagree with your assessment of quality. Clearly, you have not been to the bars SP is talking about. The top tier girls at PlanB and XOXO / Kojax (same girls work both bars) are top tier girls in any contest. And there are 5-8 of them in each bar on most night, and possibly 7-10 on weekends.

I suggest you actually go into these bars, order a drink, overpriced as it may be and observe the talent before making a sweeping statement about the girls in Manila. That is a polite way of saying you know what!

[QUOTE=RickRock;2428820]EDSA and Burgos has the exact same level of girls, but at 4 times the price. You'll drop $200 to short time a single mom with missing teeth, flappy tits and a tattoo that says RAMONE across her stretch marked flabby scared and pock marked ass. Oh, hotels cost more too.

Manila is bigger but has no more activities unless you count dogging traffic and pick pocket shabu addicts or trying to get a taxi to actually take you somewhere and use a meter.

Read what SEAtraveller just wrote. Then read it again. Then drink some cold water and sit down for a few minutes.

Then read it again.[/QUOTE]If you dislike PI so much why do you go there? Sheesh.

[QUOTE=RickRock;2429096]Maybe you have low standards. Seems to be common in the Philippines, at least from non-Asian guys.[/QUOTE]Nope. I have very high standards; most of the girls in the photo section here I wouldn't fuck with a 10' dick. I go for slim, petite college-age girls only.

I avoid the ones in one-sies as they are probably covering up what you described. You pretty much know what you got with a girl in a bikini. I can't say I've experienced the European model lately; I assume you are talking about places in Frankfurt where it is "wham-bam thank you ma'am", a la Amsterdam. Not my style; it's better in the Philippines. Hope you find peace.

[QUOTE=DCups;2429183]If you dislike PI so much why do you go there? Sheesh.[/QUOTE]I don't anymore. Others read this site and may wonder what experienced people have to say. I am just being honest.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2429203]I have very high standards. I go for slim, petite college-age girls only.[/QUOTE]So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429255]So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?[/QUOTE]Show me where I said that did.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2429255]So getting a chick with only those 3 qualifications is what it takes for a guy to be labeled having high standards?[/QUOTE]The only qualifications Mr E's chicks need are to have 3 holes.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2429333]Show me where I said that did.[/QUOTE]Please look at his post. He quoted your post where you "said' it.

Was not really going to write this up but I am bored now so what the hell. I have been totally disappointed in how the bar scene has been lately but I decided to give it a fair and honest assessment of how things are now a day here.

1st stop Dollhouse sat down ordered a Gatorade with glass of ice. Waitress brings me a small bottle cost 150 P which is to much IMO should at least be a regular size bottle of Gatorade. Anyways. About 45-50 girls all crammed up on the stage and not one I could see from my angle that was not fat. I know the modelling show starts in 15 minutes so I was waiting to see the models anyways. So they have a body paint modelling show and the models got painted over there tops LOL what the hell is that? So thr body paint show starts and one by one every model the came out was fat and had chewed up bubble gum bellies and had tops on with paint all over them LOL Body paint us to be topless NOT any more. So I watch the show and then they had a dance team come out to dance. 2 of those girls actually looked pretty good so there is diamonds out there to be found. Finished my drink left.

2nd stop Atlantis; Order another Gatorade with glass with ice and this time its a reg size bottle at least 150 Peso. About 50 girls up on stage and another 30 up top sitting but like dollhouse 95% of them were fat and not doable. Maybe if the BF was 1500 again they be ok but for 3500 I can't do that. I don't want to pay Ferrari prices for a Toyota corolla sorry. Again I waited for the dance teams to come out and out of the 10 girls there I say 2 again were do able. Not a good start for the night.

3rd 4th 5th 6th and 7th stop Lollypop Geckos Monsoon Shipwrecked and Champagne: Now these 5 bars still has a party atmosphere to them and they still have the girls in T back bikinis or very nice skin reveling outfits which is becoming less and less common here in AC. That's where I have my problem with 85 % of the bars here now. NO skin. I mean seriously who the hell wants to go into a go go bar and see girls on stage dressed like they are walking around the mall. I See more skin at church here then some of these bars. Who's dumb ass idea was it to put dancers in long dresses showing no skin at all. Absolutely the biggest problem AC has now NO FUCKING SKIN SHOWING and girls that do not give 2 shits they have customers there with there heads in their phones. What kind of dumb ass manager lets the girls have phones up on the stage? Stupid. Anyways Theses 5 bars and Maybe 5 others Insomnia / Old Club very good party atmosphere Angel witch / Roadhouse (if you like fat girls this is your place) Q bar Centaro shooters and level 3 are the only bars worth a shit to visit but the level of girls in these bars are still pretty low there just ain't no 8's 9's and 10's here in AC anymore mostly 3's thru 6's with a few 7's maybe. Forget the rest of the bars like Viking Red Badboy Apple and the row of bars between bunny burger and Insomnia (brown sugar NB bar Soja Ace) they are boring and totally not worth your time.

8th stop High Society 1 am to 4 am this is the place to go. Place is packed with freelancers and 1500 -2000 will get you a good time with a good looking girl that suits your needs.

Note: Club X has a lot of hot girls. Its very expensive thou BF are 4000-6000 drinks 350-400 But if your willing to fork out the cash you can get model types here( still 7s maybe a 8 or so Still no 9s and 10s) But the girls do have smooter unblemished skin which is better then most of the bars. Thou they sometimes have been known to be Korean only I have got shot here a few times by Korean only girls thats would not go with me But with the Corona scare you might have some luck here also. Its just not for the Cheap charlies.

[QUOTE=PilotPaul;2429483]Please look at his post. He quoted your post where you "said' it.[/QUOTE]And you will note the curious absence of the word "only" when listing the qualities. The word "only" at the end of my sentence modifies the type of girl I go for; not the qualities required.

It may have read better as "I only go for slim, petite college age girls". But I can add more descriptors if I felt like it.