[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies.[/QUOTE]Right up my alley!
Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]Sadly, there were a lot of girls with large bodies.[/QUOTE]Right up my alley!
Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?
With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?
€100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.
[QUOTE=Perfectionist;2671500]With the obvious change in pricing has anyone tried negotiating on time?
100 for 45 minutes. Maybe they would consider that a fair compromise. Your thoughts.[/QUOTE]I've gone for this tactic several times and has only worked once for me. I'd be okay with this rate but find that the girls who are hell bent on the high prices are usually too stubborn to settle. I've even proposed committing to 2 hours for 200 with Melissa and she still would not budge.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2670942]Final room. Had to be with Vanilla. She is expensive and upsells badly unless restrained, but her skills are fabulous. Did 1. 5 hours which, with two extras cost me a negotiated 270 which wasn't bad. I did have girls offering the usual old 50/30 and 60/ hour but not the prettier girls.
Overall line up was slightly disappointing. But miles better than Oase tonight. See report.[/QUOTE]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671607]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.[/QUOTE]Big thanks for your great advice, waste of money for me to pay for such looks, when I prefer to pay for beauties and don't need to ask you from 100 to 150, when beauties for 150/60 are less expensive for me than Anka for 100/60. But I agree many Sharks girls don't worth 100/30 or 150/60, but none never forced me to go to room. Only Rhur German superstar for 60 really insisted I returned on Sunday after our at 4 am discovery when she was surprised compare to dirty Germans, but I didn't, now she knows, I want to be a number 1 choice or she doesn't deserve me among her busy business, when she doesn't need my money, but maybe she needs new sensations, when she is not able to keep control.
[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2671486]Right up my alley!
Anyone seen my favorite MILF, Anjelica from Latvia, around these days?[/QUOTE]I saw lovely Latvian Marina, but not thicker Angelika.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2671607]As posted before, I am promoting resisting this terrible upsell culture. But you are doing it right by getting something out of it. The worst is when guys pay extra for nothing so I am very very supportive of you getting the 2 extras for that rate.
1.5 hours for 150 plus 100 e for 2 extras and call it a 20 euro tip. That seems like you are doing your part to keep the prices reasonable.
I hope other guys take note that even when you paid 100 for 30 with the other girl, the room was a waste of time and money.
Please please people, if you are giving girls 150 e for 1 hour, at least take an extra service.[/QUOTE]I think you have to appreciate that for tourists (like me) it is difficult. We don't get to attend these clubs more than (for me) say x4 times or 5 max per year. We pay quite a lot to get to FKK land. Flights, airport parking, public transport or car hire, hotels etc before we paid a single entry fee. The build up to the wonderful FKK experience is always special. We are not used to being surrounded by 120 naked women! So keeping disciplined about negotiation is not that easy!
The trouble is, as has often been written, and as you are advocating, is that it only takes 3 or 4 guys to have a "I'll pay whatever she asks for" and it sends a big message, especially to the prettiest girls, that they can charge what they like. This was my 5th room with Vanilla and the first 5 minutes were awful as she announced, to my surprise, but only when the door was shut ("for the services you like baby it's now €300" I told her I need to put my towel back on and go back out before we touch so that at least I don't owe any money. She looked shocked. We then spent 5 minutes haggling and I was close to just ending it there. It is a total mood killer and as she said "talk so much about money is ugly". I told her I agreed. In the past for the same 1. 5 hours and services it was €200. This was obviously when it was 100/60 and she would agree one "free" extra if I guaranteed 1. 5 hours (150 and one 50 extra). In those days a girl on a guarantee of €200 for a session of 1. 5 hours was making decent money. I say "those days" - I'm talking January 2020 (when I also had one of my rooms with her). She said prices now were "post covid inflation". I burst out laughing.
On current pricing of 150/ hour, I considered to get to €200 for 1. 5 hours to be a good deal anyway and I know she likes the services I request. I was only really requesting the same "one free extra" but she hated coming down from €300 to €250.
In answer to the proposal Perfectionist suggests 100/45, I tend to find that this works much better if the girl knows she will get longer time. Obviously this only works if you know her and her services. But when you do, and they know it will be fun and not pressured, they'll often do deals. In my favourite two clubs in Spain the prices are 150/ hour (Estark 92 in Fuengirola) and 200/ hour in Scandalos (Malaga) (though many now try for 250). There are no 50 e extras. They either do them in the price or not. Most girls do most things but not all. In Estark with the girls I know I offer 250/2 hours. They all take it. In Scandalos I offer €350 two hours. Most (but not all) take it. Back to FKKs, I believe the girls would take €200 for 1. 5 hours if it was guaranteed before the start (with no extras).
The trouble is the difference in experience. In Spain I treat the clubs as a night out where at the end of a nice night with drinks and fun with the girls in the bar I will select one or two, negotiate and go have a party for 1. 5 or 2 hours. But that's my night done.
In FKK land I like to arrive much earlier, do a nice early room to get me into the mood, shower, food, recovery, massage, then finish off with another one or two sessions. I love the whole experience. But it is getting expensive to do it this way. To have several rooms in FKKs now requires an average spend, with entry, costing over €500 if you do like longer rooms. And even for an optifuk - €100 for 30 minutes is just crazy. One of my favourite ever days at Sharks was back in 2015 when I arrived at 2 pm and had four 50 e /30 min rooms (one outside) as entrees before the main event later. Fabulous entertainment and felt great fun having sessions with 5 girls in a day. I didn't even care about popping every time (not possible for me to have more than 2 in a day now). Just great fun. But not sure I want to be racking up 400 for quick sessions then a main session of nearly 300, add entry taxis and drinks and a great day in an FKK is €1000!
So whatever can be done to keep the prices down, and to discourage girls from major upsell without them having to give a lot, is worthwhile for all. And in the long run. As much for us tourists as locals.
On the international womans days I hear there is a revolution ongoing. The BDSM, poly and sex workers want to redefine it.
I am thinking more in the lines of girls such as this:
[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9666607/Five-polyamorous-women-arrive-court-support-boyfriend-accused-keeping-sex-slave.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2671715]I think you have to appreciate that for tourists (like me) it is difficult. We don't get to attend these clubs more than (for me) say x4 times or 5 max per year. We pay quite a lot to get to FKK land. Flights, airport parking, public transport or car hire, hotels etc before we paid a single entry fee. The build up to the wonderful FKK experience is always special. We are not used to being surrounded by 120 naked women! So keeping disciplined about negotiation is not that easy!
The trouble is, as has often been written, and as you are advocating, is that it only takes 3 or 4 guys to have a "I'll pay whatever she asks for" and it sends a big message, especially to the prettiest girls, that they can charge what they like. This was my 5th room with Vanilla and the first 5 minutes were awful as she announced, to my surprise, but only when the door was shut ("for the services you like baby it's now 300" I told her I need to put my towel back on and go back out before we touch so that at least I don't owe any money. She looked shocked..[/QUOTE]Yep, I get it. I also fly in several times per year and pay all of those expenses. But it's good to keep in mind that German FKKs are special for a reason, for the ability to take several high level girls in a single day that won't break the bank. Once the scene is ruined, well that's it for the concept of multi-fuck bacchanalias. No place in the Europe like it. Let's keep Spain in Spain, Brazil in Brazil, etc etc etc.
The 100% half hour and 50% full hour price increases is not "inflation. " It's 25 yo hookers exploiting grown men.
But your efforts are applauded. At least you're making an attempt at stewardship. Unfortunately your days of "several 50 e rooms before the main entree" will be long gone if certain mindsets are allowed to proliferate. No more tasting variety. The guys who are not affected are the ones who only do 1 room and get infatuated.
Hello,
I will be flying into Frankfurt for a week in April. I'm just worried that orthodox Easter or any week in Easter where the girls will be on holiday. Trying to find out a good week when all the girls will be working. If anyone is able to help, that will be greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2671680]I saw lovely Latvian Marina, but not thicker Angelika.[/QUOTE]Ah, OK, than you anyways.
[QUOTE=Btizzle123;2671798]Hello,
I will be flying into Frankfurt for a week in April. I'm just worried that orthodox Easter or any week in Easter where the girls will be on holiday. Trying to find out a good week when all the girls will be working. If anyone is able to help, that will be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Just to avoid around Orthodox Easter. Sharks casting should improve with time, wishing for new fresh elegant beauties.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2672057]Just to avoid around Orthodox Easter. Sharks casting should improve with time, wishing for new fresh elegant beauties.[/QUOTE]Thank you Sirioja. So you would say a full lineup would still be there during April 6 to 11 or April 13-18?
I have never been to an FKK and have my first trip planned in less than a month. I neverrrr pay up front as once you do, you lose all control. However I know FKKS are a bit of a different world, so what is the protocol here?
[QUOTE=Btizzle123;2672107]Thank you Sirioja. So you would say a full lineup would still be there during April 6 to 11 or April 13-18?[/QUOTE]Many should leave 1 week before.