Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=Gangles]While everyone seems to be pitying the poor pinay who has only enough to put in her carry on baggage, think a bit before sounding off with pity.

Why are they impoverished like this?

Well, one reason may be that the family is very poor, and she also.

Another may be that she earns good money, but hands it all over to her mother who distributes it willy nilly.

I have a gf who has earned good money for years, and sends almost all to her mother every month. Does mother scrimp and save this money to build up family savings? Hell no. When all that is needed for the month has been bought, she gives whatever is left to other more distant relatives. The family never has money because mama gives any excess away, and never saves.

The filipina that I brought to Australia was the same. She came with a suitcase, and nothing else. She has a degree, worked for international aid agencies for excellent salary for 12 years. Every month, she gave it all to her mother. Same deal. When the household expenses had been paid, mama gave the excess to other relatives. never saved a cent.

It is the hunter-gatherer culture at work here.

So don't automatically feel sorry until you know the circumstances behind her story.

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You make soem good points G, and even in the UAE girls I know send all cash home except rent (in some cases truly except rent) and then borrow to buy food (!!), her mother is seen a benfactor and pressurises the poor girl (only one working in family) to send more so she borrow more...crazy

My favourite, who you have met in Manila last time with me, asked why should she have a suitcase when she comes up as she has so little to put in her bag, she actually turned up for 10 days with hand luggage - basically a shoulder bag with her clothes.....now you met her after a shopping trip and then she had to have a small hand luggage bag for the goodies

But many have little hence their happiness at small presents that for many of us would seem pitiful. But the families dont save, it is IMHO, and from what I have seen extensively in the Middle East, a buy now and not care about the future, why save when you can but the latest mobile that you dont need.

Looks like I will be there in July now...a good friend having a discrete stag/bucks party - PI virign, am leading the possee, cant tell fiancee and this trip is under the radar- so see you then, Be good to catch up again and meet your latest lady, last one was delightful and my girl really enjoyed her company

[QUOTE=Gangles]While everyone seems to be pitying the poor pinay who has only enough to put in her carry on baggage, think a bit before sounding off with pity.

Why are they impoverished like this?

Well, one reason may be that the family is very poor, and she also.

Another may be that she earns good money, but hands it all over to her mother who distributes it willy nilly.

I have a gf who has earned good money for years, and sends almost all to her mother every month. Does mother scrimp and save this money to build up family savings? Hell no. When all that is needed for the month has been bought, she gives whatever is left to other more distant relatives. The family never has money because mama gives any excess away, and never saves.

The filipina that I brought to Australia was the same. She came with a suitcase, and nothing else. She has a degree, worked for international aid agencies for excellent salary for 12 years. Every month, she gave it all to her mother. Same deal. When the household expenses had been paid, mama gave the excess to other relatives. never saved a cent.

It is the hunter-gatherer culture at work here.

So don't automatically feel sorry until you know the circumstances behind her story.

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LOL!

Most of people elsewhere in the world are up to their eyeballs in debt and only have more than a suitcase because of that debt.

Plenty of people I know from countries that feel smugly superior to the Pinays would have even less than a suitcase if the debts were called in.

Wait till China calls in its debts...we'll see who the hunter - gatherers are then. LOL!

Lehman brothers shares anyone?

[QUOTE=Warbucks]Any thoughts? Yeah I got some.

LOL. This a board full of guys who cheat on their wives and family with reckless abandon, guys who pride themselves on their deception skills. Do you think they have remorse for fucking another man's girl? Should they have it?

You are not the only guy who feels that it is wrong but then again the guy put his self in that place. You have no responsibility to tell the guy his ole lady is an ungrateful ****.

See what you got for trying to play nice. Of course guys enjoy fucking over other guys its human nature. Just take a look at the behavior that goes on this board. We are all here for same thing but guys can't get along for one reason or another. Jealousy? Human nature to be spiteful. Who knows?

We had one member who comes here for geriatric nurturing asking us all here should he fuck another man's) (expats) wife. He impertinently entitled the post "Honor Amongst Mongers" LOL. You would think a guy his age should be able to make decisions on his own without consorting a forum full sex crazed individuals. Other mongers don't see it like that. They see fucking another man's wife as a plateau of mongering success. It would if it happened in the first world but in the third world any good fortune that comes your way with the ladies should be took with a grain of salt.

2. Do nothing and flee like the Taliban from an American onslaught. Why would I want to keep the company of ungrateful ***** like that? I mean think about it. Most likely she was living hand to mouth in grinding poverty before the lonely dopey foreign money bank showed up and she repays the guy by giving to another cat for free the one thing she does have to repay her foreign debt with.[/QUOTE]First up. The Taliban aint exactly fleeing. FAct is the Taliban seems to be laughing at you Yanks man. JUst like the Vietnanese before them they are part of the scenery. And the DY (u figure it out) don't know what they are doing. Yeah you the Afghan expert bro. Cept you hiding in Manila.

Cheating on wives. You boast about cheating here on the long term live in (helper?) same differnence I think.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]First up. The Taliban aint exactly fleeing. FAct is the Taliban seems to be laughing at you Yanks man. JUst like the Vietnanese before them they are part of the scenery. And the DY (u figure it out) don't know what they are doing. Yeah you the Afghan expert bro. Cept you hiding in Manila.

Cheating on wives. You boast about cheating here on the long term live in (helper?) same differnence I think.[/QUOTE]

So what exactly is your point?

The original poster asked a question, WB gave an answer.

I take it you disagree, but not sure where the Taliban comes into it.

I mean, what do you think about the mongering question?

I am sure there are plenty of boards out there to argue the toss about the Taliban and whether or not they are 'winning' or 'losing', and there are probably plenty of people on those boards who actually give a shit.

Personally, I would like to fuck their women, if you have some ideas on how to do that without getting your balls cut off, it would be really good to hear.

Once again, Warbucks has exposed the ugly pocked marked face of sex tourism and some of the awesomely frightening creatures who lurk in the deep dark fur of its underbelly.

The question is would a monger shake your hand warmly, look into your eyes and then fill your wife or girlfriend’s fuck hole with a hot load of cum then send her home dripping with nary so much as taxi fare? Sadly, the answer is yes. Not only would a fellow monger cuckold you, he would relish the thought and blow his load even faster as he pounds your sweetheart’s sperm repository picturing you wringing your hands in dismay the entire time.

Anyway, what do you expect? “The Scared Code of The Brotherhood of Mongers” has not been yet written. Calling up other mongers and sharing the sordid details of what you did with the most recent tart you shared and the amounts of money you gave her has the potential of ending in violence. If you’re fucking a Filipina rest assured that you’re not the only one. DIA girls have seen more miles of cock than a patched up jeepney. It would serve all Philippine mongers well to remember that as they happily eat their wife or girlfriend’s [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] flaps with a smug smile other their face just knowing that “their” little precious is different from all of the other Filipinas being inseminated and bathed with cum from regimental sized elements.

Does the reality of life make you want to band your belly and bawl? Go ahead, scream cry and rip the last tuffs of hair from your balding scalp at the unfairness of it all. Gather your Western Union and Zoom receipts. Tally up how much you wired to your stray sly vixen of a “cherry girl” and sob into your pillow. Weep bitterly because you thought you were “special” and the “only one” getting the pussy. Mourn the fact that she lied to you and the reason her pussy was always wet wasn’t because you turned her on so much as the fact that she was in your room faster than the other guy’s ejaculate could dry.

I wish I could say some warm and fuzzy shit to you like Dr Phil about all mongers being loyal kind brothers responsible for bailing each other out of the ridiculous situations they find themselves mired in because of their own pig headed insistence on being loved by women in general. I guess the reality of women granting sexual access for resources is too depressing for some to accept. We all know of stories of mongers who leapt from tall buildings or took the rope upon the realization of the truth. Keeping that in mind I understand, but do not condone, the need for some degree of self-delusion.

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My goodness Cocha Monger, but you are a very, very cynical man.

Sounds like you do not, nor have ever had, a regular pinay girlfriend that you met through a dating site.

I have a few. They have never asked for money, never any implication that they have sex with other men. I have confidence in them.

This does not mean that I insist that they remain celibate between our meetings. What is good for the gander is also good for the goose. So I would not condemn them for taking lovers when I am not with them.

I think that some do, and I am sure that most don't.

But maybe I am looking for a different class of woman.

Good luck, but don't be so jaundiced in your assessment of filipinas.

Gangles

[QUOTE=Gangles]My goodness Cocha Monger, but you are a very, very cynical man.

Sounds like you do not, nor have ever had, a regular pinay girlfriend that you met through a dating site.

I have a few. They have never asked for money, never any implication that they have sex with other men. I have confidence in them.

This does not mean that I insist that they remain celibate between our meetings. What is good for the gander is also good for the goose. So I would not condemn them for taking lovers when I am not with them.

I think that some do, and I am sure that most don't.

But maybe I am looking for a different class of woman.

Good luck, but don't be so jaundiced in your assessment of filipinas.

Gangles[/QUOTE]

Well said Gangles. as we both know, we are mongers and if we are faithful then why should they be..but as you also know, I encourage my favourite to be naughty....and you will soon find out :D

But if you are sponsoring them there has to be a degree of trust and in my case if I ever did she had better be very wicked as well and liberal :D

See you soon Gangles

[QUOTE=Gangles]I would not condemn them for taking lovers when I am not with them.

I think that some do, and I am sure that most don't. Gangles[/QUOTE]Been living here five years. From what I've seen you are very very mistaken. Sorry to break it to you like this...

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amavida, thank you for stepping up to dispel this fairytale notion of the innocent filipina bamboo hut dweller who dutifully rebuffs the advances of local filipino studs and horny viagra fueled foreign codgers while her handsome water buffalo is back in europe, north america or australia slaving away to wire funds and scrape together enough for another vacation.

multiple lovers and multiple sponsors are the rule the philippines rather than the exception. take a gander at the dia website. most of the activity occurs late at night in the philippines. since most filipinas do not have internet access at home, and the majority on dia have no form of employment, i hardly think that they’re out spending their few pesos during the wee hours of the night to meet a nice foreigner for a hard shag and trike fare back to the jeepney station. i have asked a few novice water buffalo hunters how they found out about the site. many admit that girlfriends told them that it was a means of meeting foreigners who want to fuck in return for cash and gifts. of course, they deny that they are on there for the same reason. they always just want to meet new friends or find a nice foreign guy to marry.

if my view of filipinas is jaundiced it is because it is the reflection of their lives and society. with corruption and lies at every turn one’s view cannot help but reflect that. please do not misunderstand me. i am not saying that filipinas are the only women in the world who fuck multiple guys for economic gain. that happens in every land under the sun. however, filipinas are extremely good at it and do an excellent job of convincing each water buffalo that he is the only one. i don’t blame them. guys wire funds and give gifts to hear things like that even though somewhere in their minds they know otherwise. many mongers have wives at home and lie about it so maybe in the end the girls are right when they say, “you and me same same.”

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger]Amavida, thank you for stepping up to dispel this fairytale notion of the innocent Filipina bamboo hut dweller.

Multiple lovers and multiple sponsors are the rule the Philippines rather than the exception...[/QUOTE]Generalisations hardly ever give a complete picture and are especially flawed when your social sample group is homogenous.

Many Westeners come to the Philippines seeking girls that are "easy to get" and - whether looking for a casual encounter or their partners - have sex with a foreigner fast and openly or at best sublimely exploit their economic precarious situation. Then, they wonder when their girl has sex with a different guy just as fast (with the guys at the same time being unfaithful as hell). How did they meet the girl again?

Most Western guys in their quest for Filipina partners give up on a girl if they can't get her naked on the second date at the very latest.

I have quite a few pretty Filipina friends (without benefits) who are financially independent, prefer to be courted or are in long-term relationships with local guys (some of which aren't even morons). They get unsolicited "offers" from Americans and Europeans all the time. Guess what, they don't take them.

The sample group for most is not "Filipinas". It's "Filipina Hookers". Go figure.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman]So what exactly is your point?

The original poster asked a question, WB gave an answer.

I take it you disagree, but not sure where the Taliban comes into it.

I mean, what do you think about the mongering question?

I am sure there are plenty of boards out there to argue the toss about the Taliban and whether or not they are 'winning' or 'losing', and there are probably plenty of people on those boards who actually give a shit.

Personally, I would like to fuck their women, if you have some ideas on how to do that without getting your balls cut off, it would be really good to hear.[/QUOTE]Ever have a day when you have skinload of beer in your belly and flip open the pc. Ever have that day when you really shouldn't bother to reply but do.

Ever have that morning after when you have no idea what the fuck you wrote or why. Case closed LOL.

[QUOTE=Ajacobson]
Most Western guys in their quest for Filipina partners give up on a girl if they can't get her naked on the second date.[/QUOTE]
Most [i]non-American[/i] westerners will give up on a [i]European girl[/i] if they can't get her naked on the [i]first[/i] one. ;) :rolleyes:

Hi all members

Am thinking of bringing a Pinay who works in Labuan to KL, though I am not financially stable. After RTFF I have many sceptics as to
1) she will not be able to adapt to a new environment without her sisters-in-trade
2) she will fuck other guys behind my back to earn more income.
3) she will suck me dry financially then leave me for her beloved family.

Each day for the past weeks I call her few times just to check her wellbeing. I reloaded her prepaid just to see how much she spends calling me back, her so-called "my dear" but after 2 days her reload finished. Called home to speak to beloved mummy. I really cannot comprehend why she treats me, someone who will help her out of her trade like this. If this were a Thai I believe she will always call, reassure me things are fine (imaginary or not I don't care) just to show concern which I have shown her. She sends all her income to home, leave nothing with her in case of emergency. She doesn't have much clothes, wears an old sandal.

She is a degree holder btw which I would think she be able to think clearly what are actions are doing, the consequences to all parties. I checked but maybe wrong, the average monthly salary of a degree holder is USD200 per month. She is sending USD500. Is it not enough? How much mummy must splurge to be satisfied?

If what Choca says is all true then there is no happy ending for all, me her and her beloved mommy. She will fuck for life just as I have seen many oldies hovering in Hatyai a few years back.

Of cause senior members here will dismiss me as a ranting weakling which I am but I really cannot understand how this works.

It's a sad day

[QUOTE=Ajacobson]Generalisations hardly ever give a complete picture and are especially flawed when your social sample group is homogenous.

Many Westeners come to the Philippines seeking girls that are "easy to get" and - whether looking for a casual encounter or their partners - have sex with a foreigner fast and openly or at best sublimely exploit their economic precarious situation. Then, they wonder when their girl has sex with a different guy just as fast (with the guys at the same time being unfaithful as hell). How did they meet the girl again?

Most Western guys in their quest for Filipina partners give up on a girl if they can't get her naked on the second date at the very latest.

I have quite a few pretty Filipina friends (without benefits) who are financially independent, prefer to be courted or are in long-term relationships with local guys (some of which aren't even morons). They get unsolicited "offers" from Americans and Europeans all the time. Guess what, they don't take them.

The sample group for most is not "Filipinas". It's "Filipina Hookers". Go figure.[/QUOTE]Been here 5 years, stopped chasing them about 4 years & 11 months ago. They hunt us.
Doctors, dentists, lawyers, pharmacists, shop assistants.. banged them all.
All turned out to be players.

YMMV
AV