[QUOTE=Pilfers22;1355224]Returning to Sao Paulo December 7 through the 15th! See you soon ABG! Time to put a year's worth of studying Portuguese to the test.[/QUOTE]Have a great trip!
Lots of girls are waiting for you!
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[QUOTE=Pilfers22;1355224]Returning to Sao Paulo December 7 through the 15th! See you soon ABG! Time to put a year's worth of studying Portuguese to the test.[/QUOTE]Have a great trip!
Lots of girls are waiting for you!
[QUOTE=MjTravelLove; 1355212]Guys, can you tell me the best opportunities to hook up with a girl for the night, maybe take her back to the hotel, etc?
Also, how much this should cost?
I. E. Do the girls at Redway, etc. Tend to put this option on the table and at what cost?
THANKS IN ADVANCE![/QUOTE]Go to Red Way and deal this matter with Vaní.
Bare in mind that R$ 120, 00 is the price of one hour.
ABG
[QUOTE=MjTravelLove; 1354986]Thanks so much for the info everybody! By the way, can you tell me the exact differences between clinicas, boites and prives?
Thanks![/QUOTE]Dear MjT.
Please see my previos post for detais.
Any questions / Please PM me!
Have fun in Sampa.
ABG
[QUOTE=Eltio01; 1355297]Yes, I just realized that! He he he. I got penalized. I sent you a PM and was hoping to go out tonight but apparently you did not check in today. If you do, then send me an SMS or we will figure out something tomorrow.
I will either try the call gilr or go check out this "American Bar" or just go out to a regular club.[/QUOTE]Please PM me again for details!
[QUOTE=Arealfreak2000;1354882]I'll be coming in first two weeks of December for 12 days. Hope to go out and monger a bit while I'm there. Glad to hear Sunday's now have a spot to visit courtesy of ABG as this is usually the day I have to myself.[/QUOTE]AF please send me a PM with detaisl, I'll be glad to help you!
But if you want to go there on your own:
Privee Flor Alvim, R. Gen Jardim 242, near Metro República.
Sundays from 11 AM till 6 PM.
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1355363]Dear TR,
Sunday night is al most all closed, Privee Flor Alvim is going to be open from 11 AM till 17 PM.
Better we do somethig Saturday or Sunday afternoon![/QUOTE]Sorry the error I've done, please corret it to 5 PM. Some girls stay untill 6 PM.
[QUOTE=Eltio01; 1355333]Tonight I decided that I was not going to risk going out without a local expert and ending up being ripped off by a cab driver or a garota, and so I finally decided to call this girl I found in the PhotoAcompanhantes. Turns out you do realize, just like ABG suggested, that makeup, photoshop and 5 years ago pictures can make a lot of difference.
OK, down to the facts:
"Carloline" arrived almost on time, her face is quite nice and her body is tight, however I am not into the full ass type so I could see she has gained at least 5 to 10 Kg since those pictures, however she could still be considered a 7 on my scale. What makes her really special is her attitude, always smiling, talking, teasing, etc. Then she delivered a heavenly BJ without CNDM, but I did not want it to finish there so I took her to the bedroom and went on and on. She showed no signs of being in a hurry or anything. Overall I would rate the experience an 8, however considering the ridiculous amount I paid for her (300R) I ended un realizing I should have waited for ABG's reply and for that could have gotten 2 girls!
One thing this girl did tell me is that my hotel is very close to Augusta or Augusto and that this street is packed with "garotas de programa" all night long. Had I known this before! Oh well, as I said, I am an amateur.[/QUOTE]I guess you don't speak Portuguese? Forget about counting the money, it seems you have a good session with a woman who did not have an attitude. Which at the end of the day is not easy to come by theses days. Now that you know her maybe she will give you a discount in the future.
From what I gathered, a prive is a private apartment setup with a reception area and on-site rooms where you can session. Girls present themselves to you and you can ask to chat briefly with ones that interests you. Bring pen & paper or type into your smartphones, is not easy to keep the faces & the names straight especially if you are presented with 8-10 hotties. According to the time you want to session most prives will ask you to pay before the session. Places that ABG recommends Redway & Flor Alvim do not ask this. You will pay after the session there. I am OK either way as long as I find a cute girl to have a good time with. You always take a chance with someone new, getting a good session is not 100% guaranteed. As time goes by, I am finding 30min sessions work fine for me. I can test drive a lot more girls with the same budget and if the session is bad you did not waste so much money. You can always complain to the manager & see if they do anything. If not, I just don't go back within the same trip.
During this most recent weeklong trip, my best sessions were at inexpensive prives. I paid between 50R - 90R for half hour including tip!
A clinica is a similar setup except there are some places where the girls don't present themselves in person. You choose from a photo book. The room in a clinica usually have a massage table or a pad on the floor or both. Most do not offer a bed for the session. Some of these girls might give an actual massage then FS extras are either included in the price or you have to tip directly to the girl. Normally a clinica will cost more than a prive.
A boite is a club where freelance girls are allowed to work. For Sao Paulo, this is a close facsimile to the Rio terma. You can ask a girl to sit with you and even make out before choosing to either session on site or leave for you hotel. Famous places like Bomboa, Scandallo & Cafe Foto will cost you R200+ just to enter. Some places this fee equals x-number of drinks for you only, other places might let you use this money for food & drink for you & the girls. Nowadays, because of strict prostitution rules, you will need to 'exit' the club and enter a separate structure. The 'hotel' for the session. Then will have to pay a room charge plus what you negotiated with the girl.
Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1355448]Sorry the error I've done, please corret it to 5 PM. Some girls stay untill 6 PM.[/QUOTE]I'll be at PFA today around 01:00 PM!
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1355469]I'll be at PFA today around 01:00 PM![/QUOTE]
Prive Flor Alvim new tel. Number : 11 2839 2057
Let me start by stating this was a SUPERB day and it was thanks to ABG. All day I was in meetings and busy but kept in contact via SMS with ABG. He always returned my messages and advised me to arrive early at Flor Alvim or the girls would leave. However I could not get off my duties before 5 so I still messaged him and he told me there were 4 girls in Flor Alvim and to come meet him there. I have to confess that, in the begining, I was not sure and was reluctant to meet someone who I had only known by his reports. So I thought "what the heck, yesterday I screwed up big time, lets go try something new". And so I took the taxi and arrived at the door of FA.
The place, for my standards, was not the nicest, the couches, the floors, all seemed a bit on the "cheap" side. Nevertheless I saw this guy on the couch who asked me "Are you from ISG?" And immediately I knew this was ABG and so he was.
The girls came in and I must say I was disappointed, they were not exactly "my tyype". ABG explained that at 13:00 hrs there had been many and where to choose but that now these were the ones left but recommended two of the four. I still liked a taller one without belly and with a nice ass, I am not good with names. In my very strict scale she was a 5 to 6. We went into the room (also a bit sleezy and without shower, shower is shared down the hall) and to my surprise, she had wonderful breasts a very decent ass and on top of that she gave me an amazing BJ and then great sex. At that point I forgot everything about the place and enjoyed her. I only paid for 30 minutes because I did want to try more girls. When I was asked by her to pay her 45 Reais I was shocked! The cab from my hotel and back was more expensive than that! (About 177 USD). She was most definitely worth it.
When I came out I passed out on the couch and ABG woke me to ask me "How was she?" with a loud friendly voice. After he explained me that he agreed there were better girls elsewhere but that the price / benefit ratio at FA could not be better. I told him I did enjoy it but I wanted more and better quality. He then took his phone out and called Red way, they told him there were 10 girls there.
When we got there this time I found my place. The neighborhood is much nicer, you go in and there are leather couches where one can sit. The first girl to came out made my jaw drop, she was a definite 8, very young looking, white skin, tight ass and a great tender attitude, but then another came out, a blonde with a supreme body (a definitely 8. 5 or 9) and the parade went on and on and on, every single girl must have been between 8. 5 to 9. 0 in my scale.
When they all finished coming out, I felt I died and went to heaven, I could honestly not make up my mind of who I wanted, I wanted them all! Like I told ABG, had I known I would have gone there 3 times per day for the 4 days I was here and tried the 10 of them.
Since now I trusted ABG's advice 110, I let him do the choosing for me and hooked me up with a very tall (model type. 1.80 easiily) thin, pretty girl with long amazing legs and a great smile. She was the nicest girl I ever met in the business. She even offered to wipe the floor of the room before we went in, I told her that it was OK, nevertheless she got me a pair of sandals.
The BJ again was amazing, the sex was wild and she enjoyed spanks, roughness and kept saying "my legs are too long", which made me laugh and enjoy her even better every time we changed positions. When we were done the shower this time was in the room so we took a shower and it was over. Believe it or not I paid for this beauty 80 Reais! People, remember the day before I paid 300 for 1 hour of pretty standard stuff with a girl I did not even consider a 10. I had mixed feelings, on one hand I felt like an idiot for it, on the other I felt in extasis for having found ABG and this place.
If you think the good sportsmanship of ABG stops there, you are wrong, he offered and gave me a ride to a safe place where I could get taxi and on the way there he gave me multiple "pearls" on mongering in Sao Paulo.
In conclusion, do not waste time and money elsewhere, get in touch with ABG. If you want quantity, some quality and a superb price, go to F. A. You could spend a whole day there and spend what I spent in 1 night the day before. Now if you want AMAZING quality and a very decent price, go to Red Way, do not even hesitate, you will get girls that would charge 300+ if they were independent for 80 R!
Finally I have to really thank and recognize ABG once again for he made my experience here unique. Enjoy SP.
[QUOTE=Eltio01; 1355762]Let me start by stating this was a SUPERB day and it was thanks to ABG. All day I was in meetings and busy but kept in contact via SMS with ABG. He always returned my messages and advised me to arrive early at Flor Alvim or the girls would leave. However I could not get off my duties before 5 so I still messaged him and he told me there were 4 girls in Flor Alvim and to come meet him there. I have to confess that, in the begining, I was not sure and was reluctant to meet someone who I had only known by his reports. So I thought "what the heck, yesterday I screwed up big time, lets go try something new". And so I took the taxi and arrived at the door of FA.
The place, for my standards, was not the nicest, the couches, the floors, all seemed a bit on the "cheap" side. Nevertheless I saw this guy on the couch who asked me "Are you from ISG?" And immediately I knew this was ABG and so he was.
The girls came in and I must say I was disappointed, they were not exactly "my tyype". ABG explained that at 13:00 hrs there had been many and where to choose but that now these were the ones left but recommended two of the four. I still liked a taller one without belly and with a nice ass, I am not good with names. In my very strict scale she was a 5 to 6. We went into the room (also a bit sleezy and without shower, shower is shared down the hall) and to my surprise, she had wonderful breasts a very decent ass and on top of that she gave me an amazing BJ and then great sex. At that point I forgot everything about the place and enjoyed her. I only paid for 30 minutes because I did want to try more girls. When I was asked by her to pay her 45 Reais I was shocked! The cab from my hotel and back was more expensive than that! (About 177 USD). She was most definitely worth it.
When I came out I passed out on the couch and ABG woke me to ask me "How was she?" with a loud friendly voice. After he explained me that he agreed there were better girls elsewhere but that the price / benefit ratio at FA could not be better. I told him I did enjoy it but I wanted more and better quality. He then took his phone out and called Red way, they told him there were 10 girls there.
When we got there this time I found my place. The neighborhood is much nicer, you go in and there are leather couches where one can sit. The first girl to came out made my jaw drop, she was a definite 8, very young looking, white skin, tight ass and a great tender attitude, but then another came out, a blonde with a supreme body (a definitely 8. 5 or 9) and the parade went on and on and on, every single girl must have been between 8. 5 to 9. 0 in my scale.
When they all finished coming out, I felt I died and went to heaven, I could honestly not make up my mind of who I wanted, I wanted them all! Like I told ABG, had I known I would have gone there 3 times per day for the 4 days I was here and tried the 10 of them.
Since now I trusted ABG's advice 110, I let him do the choosing for me and hooked me up with a very tall (model type. 1.80 easiily) thin, pretty girl with long amazing legs and a great smile. She was the nicest girl I ever met in the business. She even offered to wipe the floor of the room before we went in, I told her that it was OK, nevertheless she got me a pair of sandals.
The BJ again was amazing, the sex was wild and she enjoyed spanks, roughness and kept saying "my legs are too long", which made me laugh and enjoy her even better every time we changed positions. When we were done the shower this time was in the room so we took a shower and it was over. Believe it or not I paid for this beauty 80 Reais! People, remember the day before I paid 300 for 1 hour of pretty standard stuff with a girl I did not even consider a 10. I had mixed feelings, on one hand I felt like an idiot for it, on the other I felt in extasis for having found ABG and this place.
If you think the good sportsmanship of ABG stops there, you are wrong, he offered and gave me a ride to a safe place where I could get taxi and on the way there he gave me multiple "pearls" on mongering in Sao Paulo.
In conclusion, do not waste time and money elsewhere, get in touch with ABG. If you want quantity, some quality and a superb price, go to F. A. You could spend a whole day there and spend what I spent in 1 night the day before. Now if you want AMAZING quality and a very decent price, go to Red Way, do not even hesitate, you will get girls that would charge 300+ if they were independent for 80 R!
Finally I have to really thank and recognize ABG once again for he made my experience here unique. Enjoy SP.[/QUOTE]Thank ET you very much for your kind words and your true report.
PLA is not the nicest prive in São Paulo but has some very nice girls, others not so good.
You got laid with Julia, with the nice breasts. Pity that you could not be there erlier, but I'm glad you went well with Julia.
I really love this place because you have to dig pears out of the sea. Some of the girls are really beginers, some are not. But for R$ 35, 00 for half an hour plus R$ 10, 00 for the BBBJ is exelent (if you want BBBJ and CIM it's extra fee of R$ 30, 00 ).
In my opinion, Lorena, a tall 1, 85 m. Mulata, very long legs, nice face, afro style wowen hair makes her the numero uno choice at the house. She is really a black pearl.
But she arrives early, sometimes before 11 PM but leaves nor long after 5 PM. Call 2839 2057 and make an appoitment with her. She's new in the business, not even two months as a GP. Usually is avaliable on Sundays.
In Red Way you got really the number one of the girls ET!
Anny, the tall blonde. 1,85m. Tall; long legs; very GFE. Also gets in early, about 11 AM and leaves not long after 7 PM, some days erlier.
Call 55718334 and ask for an appoitment with her.
Have fun folks.
ABG
[QUOTE=Almotu; 1355454]I guess you don't speak Portuguese? Forget about counting the money, it seems you have a good session with a woman who did not have an attitude. Which at the end of the day is not easy to come by theses days. Now that you know her maybe she will give you a discount in the future.
From what I gathered, a prive is a private apartment setup with a reception area and on-site rooms where you can session. Girls present themselves to you and you can ask to chat briefly with ones that interests you. Bring pen & paper or type into your smartphones, is not easy to keep the faces & the names straight especially if you are presented with 8-10 hotties. According to the time you want to session most prives will ask you to pay before the session. Places that ABG recommends Redway & Flor Alvim do not ask this. You will pay after the session there. I am OK either way as long as I find a cute girl to have a good time with. You always take a chance with someone new, getting a good session is not 100% guaranteed. As time goes by, I am finding 30min sessions work fine for me. I can test drive a lot more girls with the same budget and if the session is bad you did not waste so much money. You can always complain to the manager & see if they do anything. If not, I just don't go back within the same trip.
During this most recent weeklong trip, my best sessions were at inexpensive prives. I paid between 50R. 90R for half hour including tip!
A clinica is a similar setup except there are some places where the girls don't present themselves in person. You choose from a photo book. The room in a clinica usually have a massage table or a pad on the floor or both. Most do not offer a bed for the session. Some of these girls might give an actual massage then FS extras are either included in the price or you have to tip directly to the girl. Normally a clinica will cost more than a prive.
A boite is a club where freelance girls are allowed to work. For Sao Paulo, this is a close facsimile to the Rio terma. You can ask a girl to sit with you and even make out before choosing to either session on site or leave for you hotel. Famous places like Bomboa, Scandallo & Cafe Foto will cost you R200+ just to enter. Some places this fee equals x-number of drinks for you only, other places might let you use this money for food & drink for you & the girls. Nowadays, because of strict prostitution rules, you will need to 'exit' the club and enter a separate structure. The 'hotel' for the session. Then will have to pay a room charge plus what you negotiated with the girl.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Dear Almotu,
Thanks for your accurate description on the subject!
You deserve to be nominated "Cidadão Paulistano" for your knowledge of this city!
Hope to hear from you soon!
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1355525]Prive Flor Alvim new tel. Number : 11 2839 2057[/QUOTE]As ET choosed with Julia, I went with Cassandra, medium size brunette, enormous boobs (naturals) big ass. She's experienced in the business.
Very good vaginal, she masters riding on top of you.
BBBJ and CIM, very good CIM!
R$ 35, 00 + R$ 20, 00 for BBBJ / CIM
[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1355884]Dear Almotu,
Thanks for your accurate description on the subject!
You deserve to be nominated "Cidadão Paulistano" for your knowledge of this city!
Hope to hear from you soon![/QUOTE]I would add to Almotu summary description this difference.
Habitually there is a gradation not only in price or overall quality of the premises from the privês up to the boates. Privês are at the low end of this spectrum: there's more chance that you'll end up in a muquifo than in a venue with clean and nice facilities. There are also more chances to encounter barangas (old hags) in prîves.
CLínicas are more upscale. In general the working staff, the selection of the staff (o plantel) is much better than in a prîve. Keep in mind that there are always excpetions to this rule of thumb: last year I met in a nice CLínica the ugliest girl I met a couple of days before in a prîve. That means that the frontiers between a prîvé and a CLínica are sometimes very porous.
In boates garotas are "supposed" to be more good looking but as everything else there are myriad of exceptions.
Redway is a prîve were you can garimpar (look for gems). You can find there some garotas that are in the 7. 5 to 8. 5 range and occasionnaly maybe a 9. 0. According to me it is one of the best qualty / price ratio in town. I have some concerns however concerning the facilities of the place: not all the rooms are all right. You can spot molds on the walls, sometimes it lacks privacy. Especially the outside room on the patio where you can overhear other foristas partying. I can vouch however for the cleanliness of the towels and the sheets. There is a washing machine and a dryer that are always running in the far end of the patio (where the garotas have also their small kitchen and where we hang out when there is a private churrasco for the houses's friend.
MY two cents.
Redway and others are clean enough to fuck in. I would not want to live in one or host a dinner party in one. Anybody who wants a different environment should just pay the extra money to take a garota out of the place:
Redway is a prîve were you can garimpar (look for gems). You can find there some garotas that are in the 7. 5 to 8. 5 range and occasionnaly maybe a 9. 0. According to me it is one of the best qualty / price ratio in town. I have some concerns however concerning the facilities of the place: not all the rooms are all right. You can spot molds on the walls, sometimes it lacks privacy. Especially the outside room on the patio where you can overhear other foristas partying. I can vouch however for the cleanliness of the towels and the sheets. There is a washing machine and a dryer that are always running in the far end of the patio (where the garotas have also their small kitchen and where we hang out when there is a private churrasco for the houses's friend.