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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1500879]PK, I think you are confusing the abbreviations. SW means street walker; for example, the girls in the Nana parking lot or up and down Sukhumvit. Besides that, I would suspect that a FL does not step into Climax hoping to find a 70 year old gentleman. Keep dreaming. I hope that when I am 70 that my dreams will be as big.[/QUOTE]How do you figure freelancers anywhere do not go for 70 something guys?

I have personally seen good looking freelancers go with really old looking guys. Do not know how old they really are. Girls do not ask how old you are. Even if they ask you can lower your number by 15 years anyway, it is not like you need to show them your I. D.

Any age + Money = girl in bed.

Young age + little money = girl in bed.

Regular girls + no money + young age = Maybe free sex.

Let me guess:

SW= Street walkers; The working girls walking on the street, so far as we see sex service providers in upper sukhumvit.

FL= Free lancers; Don't have any bondage with clubs or bars or any establishments. Provides sex services too, but they are on their own. Found in discos or clubs etc places.

SWs might be counted as FLs, but never been seen in any discos or clubs. But FLs are on street? Nahhh, never ever. Some times FLs are seen in the web world too, if they are fallen from their best days. But never on the street.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1500888]Regular girls + no money + young age = Maybe free sex.[/QUOTE]But please add some side costs.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1500885]It is always good to agree on definitions first. Here is how I was using the acronyms.

SW = sex worker, anyone who offers sex for money.

FL = free lancers, any SW who works independent of an establishment or agency.[/QUOTE]Usually SW goes for Street Worker, as your definition goes under the acronymous of WG, working girl.

A WG can be anywhere.

A SW won't be in a bar or in an establishment.

A FL can be anywhere, in a pinch even in a bar if that is open to accept those girls being there (with no money paid by the bar, but the bar earning for their LD) , so a FL can be a WG acting as SW, LOL

[QUOTE=Sammon;1500888]How do you figure freelancers anywhere do not go for 70 something guys?[/QUOTE]Again, the original poster, Monopoly, asked about FL in the discos, not in BG, not Thermae, not Sukhumvit. How many 70 something guys have you run into in the discos? Me, 0.

From ISG Abreviations Page:

SW = Street Walker.

SW = Sex Worker.

SYT = Sweet Young Thing.

So the term can have two meanings. I have always assumed SW stood for Street Walker, a certain type of Sex Worker as well as a certain type of Free Lancer. I think this is the more accurate definition of the abbreviation I. E. A girl that works the street as opposed to a girl working a disco or bar where I think the FL term better applies. They are all Sex Workers or better yet, Working Girls, God bless their little hearts.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1500908]From ISG Abreviations Page:

SW = Street Walker.

SW = Sex Worker.

SYT = Sweet Young Thing.

So the term can have two meanings. I have always assumed SW stood for Street Walker, a certain type of Sex Worker as well as a certain type of Free Lancer. I think this is the more accurate definition of the abbreviation I. E. A girl that works the street as opposed to a girl working a disco or bar where I think the FL term better applies. They are all Sex Workers or better yet, Working Girls, God bless their little hearts.[/QUOTE]I don't want to be semantyc, butif You scrolled a bit more on the abbreviation guide, you'd find.

WG Working girl. A prostitute.

i want to change the topic. lol.

had a look in crazy house tonight. its still a very busy bar. they have the set of girls who dance nude and the set that cover the tits and wear a frilly skirt but no knickers. the reason is two fold. firstly not all girls have beautiful tits, maybe some have stretch marks to cover, and some guys like to look up skirts more than see a girl fully nude.

at 9pm, i thought that all the girls were fairly acceptable looking, well above average faces, with no shockers at all. however the best lookers were already bar fined by this time, so no stunners left. some quite slim girls but not many. most sporting a bit of baby fat even if normally classified as slim. not much silicone thankfully. not one super stunning ass on display. so if noi from doll house were transplanted into crazy house, i would still look at her, as having easily the most sexy slim body. some girls would possibly have a slightly prettier face than noi though.

the girl with prettiest face i ever saw at ch does not work there any more. anyway she was **** and had a bf (appeared to have). she hated going with old customers, so was an exception to the rule about bar girls liking old guys. there always are a few exceptions. i wonder if girls that are looking for a very quick st, whether they prefer young guys or old guys?

generally the standard at ch is pretty good, which is what draws the customers, but get there early. most of the waitresses are gatoeys, which is a bit unusual. maybe they can be bar-fined too. lol. fortunately we did not have to see them nude.

i did not bf a girl as was very satisfied after my sex workout at cherry massage with bo. so was just window shopping. lol bought my girl a few drinks and gave her a good tip though, just to help support her that little bit as she is a relative newbie and young mother deserted by her thai man and has serious debts to cover. does not want to work in a bar, but needs the extra money. a sweet shy thing compared to most.

Hey everyone,

Its been ages since I've posted at these forums. Last time I posted here it seems that a good amount of people enjoyed them. I hope to do the same with my BK report though targeting a different subculture of girls. Athletic girls. The kind of girls that have either played sports, are into exercising, or born with God given great genetics.

Last time I was here it was pretty tough to find the busty big butt girl with the thin waist (or even abs) but I did manage to find some. One was a street walker (she didn't have a super thin waist, though she had an ass. The other times was just browsing through some pics of girls through sites like Caesars and the rest of the gang. I did manage to find a few that way too. One was swimmer and the other used to run. The best was at a bar I think it was at Nana. She was one of the many dancers there, a spinner like the rest, except she had an ass.

She got that way through Yoga.

From what I've heard, the girls in Isaan tend to be more athletic percentage wise than say BK girls, who are more of the skinny legged, lighter skin types.

My question is where I can find these athletic girls? Or fit girls? I was thinking a GoGo bar that had a variety of real pole dancers which is probably a good workout for these girls.

Since I am planning to live here, maybe get a college gymnast Thai girl (though don't where to find that either!) for long term. Maybe go check out Isaan?

Thanks for any help gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1500782]The ladies do have several advantages. The guys have spent a bundle on plane tickets, hotel rooms, food and drink because they want to get f*cked. What are they going to do? Will they spend two weeks refusing the prices the ladies are asking? These are factors at work in the market and it is inevitable they will influence the price. Additionally, the guys have been drinking and probably have less experience at negotiations than the ladies. It's easy to understand why they're likely to pay more than a guy who lives in BKK, knows the prices, has a lot of experience negotiating for sex and can easily decide to walk away and look for a lady the following night. Naturally this will create some contention between the two week millionaires who flew in for a few f*cks and the expats residing in the City of Angels.[/QUOTE]Correct. The girls know what they are up against during what time of year and act accordingly.

Also, don't assume that every expat negotiates price. There are plenty of expats who pay top dollar all the time. There are lots of reasons for this.

[QUOTE=Goyer78; 1500963]My question is where I can find these athletic girls? Or fit girls? I was thinking a GoGo bar that had a variety of real pole dancers which is probably a good workout for these girls.

Since I am planning to live here, maybe get a college gymnast Thai girl (though don't where to find that either!) for long term. Maybe go check out Isaan?

Thanks for any help gentlemen.[/QUOTE]"fit girls"?

Its not clear if you seek a girl with stamina, or big powerful legs, or tiny with skinny legs with wire like muscles, or extremely toned body with no fat.

I have not seen any extended "pole dances", mostly go-go girls holding a pole suggestively. I have met girls that worked out in the Gym regularly and had very strong legs, so I suggest you look in the fitness centres.

Long Gun and Suzi Wong used to have some fairly athletic dance routines that utilised the poles just a little, pole dance style. The best dancers left Long Gun some time back.

I have a fairly known face into the FL discos in lower Suk and others. I have from very relaible sources that no streetwalkergirls are allowed entering clubs in this area. Reason; troublemakers, hiv positive and drugs or combinations.

I see many old punters comfort themself with sayings like girls like us as we do fasttrack (maby slow, hehe) service. I been browsing a couple of days ago spinners in Climax. My observations;

I have just turned 40 (maby look like 35ish) and I stand alone. I don't give any hints verbaly, smiley or behaviourly I want girls. I am a chemistrymaker and spend a lot of baths creating my safe haven at a table at the back. I see girls (in Climax) often with elderly guys looking at me and eyeballing. I have a nice fleet of drinks, vodkas and stuffs resting at my table and on manu occations I see girls leave oldies and hit me to have fun. I am a chemistry guy and a creater of good mood. I ask sometimes the girls why they stand next to the oldie and many times I hear they say they preferelably like to milk the oldie for some good money. What hits me is sth how cheap people are. Many travel half away around the globe to save and save and stand alone at a table hitting their half empty Carlsberg and did not know what hit them. Looking at my table with vodkas (bottles) girls for sure atleast think they will have more fun time at my table.

A sexworker is a sexworker and she flows with the possibility of good compensations. But oldies recieving better ladies than I do, hm, well I don't know. I have to say, when speaking of I. E Climax; this is my nr one spot for picking up FLs. I don't take girls away from their "dates" but they seem to leave their date and arrive at my table (I am sorry about this). I groom well and look fresh and young with decent fashion clothes. I am sure there will be girls for everyone but speaking of the best looking girls they also want some attraction believe it or not (my exp approx 8 years now)

I am a rather hardcore motherfucker and the girls know it won't be easy. I create good laughs, chemistry and enjoy when a girl realy takes her initiative and ask if we should go for bang bang. I never discuss money upfront but almost never did I hear questipns about it anyway. Ofcourse I do compensate girls. One girl a couple of days ago I did infact forget to pay any money as instill where drunk and she had to go off to work (late afternoon after multiple pops, cim and a+ service. I did infact look her up and reimburshed her later servicing reception at one of BKKs finest establishments (hotelwice). I know managment very well some places and in this case she was rather new to the scene and would never go older than 40. I guess exceptions where to be had. But she did recognice me from from staying at her workplace (very upscale hotel and nothing like the cheapies Landmark, T21, S 31 etc etc.

But to be frank there will be someone for everyone but no chance in hell they choose a old guy if they can have a rather young smashing one. My exp anyway.

Well you young whipper-snappers can go on denying reality, but here it is straight from three ladies who work for Pure Bangkok Escorts. (Taken from a recent interview in Stickman's Weekly column.)

Candy: "I like older men. They are more relaxed and they speak politely."

Jessica: "I don't like young men. I prefer men aged 35 up." "Young women get men excited. Older men see us as young women and they get excited. And when older men are done they want to sleep right away."

And the barely legal Fiona adds: "It's work, it's not love so I don't even think about their age. They're paying so any age is ok."

Of course I'm sure these ladies would be more than happy to have some of you youngsters try to convince them they should reconsider their attitudes towards young men.

But there you have it. Ladies of the night prefer polite, sleepy old men. Eat your hearts out!

Writing guidelines instruct us to spell out a phrase the first time it is used and only use the acronym afterwards. The confusion I created illustrates why.

I was deliberate in choosing to use SW for sex worker in one of my earlier posts. Many of the ladies I've known over the years have made it very clear to me that they did not like people to use terms like prostitute, call girl, stripper and especially street walker. They were adamant that they were sex workers, a term first used by Carol Leigh in her book [I]Sex Work: Writings By Women In The Sex Industry[/I]. The strippers said they were dancers, sex workers who danced in clubs. Women who were once known as call girls wanted to be called escorts. Today health organizations, NGOs and governments widely use the term sex worker. Resistance to the newer terminology comes from social conservatives, anti-prostitution feminists, and other prohibitionists. So when we call a lady a prostitute, street walker or wh*re, we are reinforcing the stigmas these people try to impose on these women.

So in a tender moment I decided to use the term my former lady friends preferred. In some of my posts I'm certainly guilty of using some pretty foul language when discussing sex workers, but not when I'm interacting with them. While I may yell out some rather graphic phrases as my lust builds and the action gets hot and heavy, before and after the sex I act like a gentleman and treat my partner like a lady.

I see nothing wrong with getting as raunchy and nasty as you want and the lady permits, that's what you're paying for, but before the action begins and after it ends the lady deserves to be treated with respect.

Besides, attitude is important and the right attitude brings out other people's best.

Now I'll climb off my soap box.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1501080]"fit girls"?

Its not clear if you seek a girl with stamina, or big powerful legs, or tiny with skinny legs with wire like muscles, or extremely toned body with no fat.

I have not seen any extended "pole dances", mostly go-go girls holding a pole suggestively. I have met girls that worked out in the Gym regularly and had very strong legs, so I suggest you look in the fitness centres.

Long Gun and Suzi Wong used to have some fairly athletic dance routines that utilised the poles just a little, pole dance style. The best dancers left Long Gun some time back.[/QUOTE]Sadly many Thai gals are "skinny fat." Thin but with very little muscle tone. Reason- Women who are toned get mistaken for ladyboys."Fit" has never really caught on here. That is too bad, as fit gals look great.