Angeles City

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2440365]Hotel infrastructure, travel routes, reputation, flights if they start again.[/QUOTE]And established political relationships.

[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2440365]Hotel infrastructure, travel routes, reputation, flights if they start again.[/QUOTE]Except for reputation lots of other places have that, many places easy to get to from Manila that have good access roads, hotels and restaurants.

All you need is some minor renovations to make the go-go clubs and bars that mongers favour and you are back in business.

In a year operating put of a new city people wil be saying AC, WTF is that?

There is nothing about AC that means it HAS to be the mongering destination outside of Manila. Yes there will be some costs associated with making the move but if the climate changes and the cost of staying in AC is more than moving the mongering somewhere else with a more receptive local government, then it will move so fast you just might book a bus ticket there and hen you get there find out you are in the wrong spot.

Social Distancing is OK.

[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2440470]Social Distancing is OK.[/QUOTE]Although this wouldn't really help. Hilarious!

There are a lot of other cultural differences between Koreans and westerners, once you understand that they can be really great guys.

They like to spend money, not for the pleasure of spending it or to impress girls but to show other Koreans that they have enough to spend and waste. Getting the best girl is not the goal, showing that they can afford the best girl is.

I have a good Korean friend from my Afghan days, we still exchange emails every couple of months or so. What really cemented our friendship was when their company boss came to Afghanistan over the Korean Thanksgiving time. This is a big deal for Koreans and for the boss to show up at their project site was a huge honour for them. It also happened at a time when we were in the middle of one of our periodic booze droughts. No supplies were available.

I happened to have a case of 18 year old single malt. I lent it to my friend and he eventually replaced it two fold as soon as we could get resupplied.

It was the only booze that they had for the presidents visit and a competing project staff had to show up empty handed at the event. My friend was the only one to have any supplies. He gained much face and prestige in his company with these 12 bottles.

Even after this, we stilled referred to each other as Mr Moon and Mr Guy, they are very formal and only use first names with very close friends.

Once you get to know a Korean on a one to one basis they are OK guys, some assholes, but not all that much different than any other nationality. However get a group of them together and their ideas of Korean superiority quickly become apparent. This follows from being basically an isolated and homogenized race over the last couple millenniums.

If you ever meet a Korean individually, one who has traveled and interacted with other cultures then they are OK guys to have a drink with. (Warning they love scotch and it is etiquette never to fill your own glass and to never let your companions glass get empty, After a couple killer hangovers I figured this out.).

"However even the same guys in a group will display their insular superior attitude quickly."

Ideas of Korean superiority quickly become apparent. This follows from being basically an isolated and homogenized race.

This is their racism showing its face, [URL]https://www.ohchr.org/en/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=15147&LangID=E[/URL].

[URL]https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324569[/URL]#what-is-small-penis-syndrome.

[URL]https://www.pri.org/stories/2012-08-09/new-penis-size-survey-us-ranks-11th-right-behind-japan[/URL]

3-3-3 is the reason they over pay 3rd world hookers.

I heard from Pinay that Angeles will have complete lockdown with all stores closed including grocery stores.

Anyone can confirm this?

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2442998]I heard from Pinay that Angeles will have complete lockdown with all stores closed including grocery stores.

Anyone can confirm this?[/QUOTE]That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2443058]That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.[/QUOTE]Should I take your word for it or perhaps Butthead could corroborate.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2443135]Should I take your word for it or perhaps Butthead could corroborate.[/QUOTE]Lockdown is continuing until at least April 30th pretty much as is and may get extended again depending on infection rates as we get closer to the end of the month. Grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. Will remain open. The government is also working on a relief package to provide some funds (5 k - 7 k) to each person plus food banks for the poor. My source is directly from government officials that are part of the committees making these decisions.

[QUOTE=Beavis;2443058]That rumor has been circling everywhere. Is fake news, not true at all.[/QUOTE]I am no so sure it is fake news. Will find out in a few days.

Oth, limited trikes are allowed to operate. The a-holes have upped the price to 150 php from 100 php.

[QUOTE=Issaquah;2443202]Lockdown is continuing until at least April 30th pretty much as is and may get extended again depending on infection rates as we get closer to the end of the month. Grocery stores, pharmacies, etc. Will remain open. The government is also working on a relief package to provide some funds (5 k - 7 k) to each person plus food banks for the poor. My source is directly from government officials that are part of the committees making these decisions.[/QUOTE]My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2443265]My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.[/QUOTE]Think you will find that people who tested positive only to recover and test negative have tested positive again after a few weeks.

[URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-asia/cv19-thailand/covid-19-reinfection-rates-increase[/URL]

There is no herd immunity, this will be over once they find a cure or immunization, maybe some 12 months away due to months of testing needed before allowed to be used on general public.

Although banks, supermarkets, hospitals are open the streets of Angeles city are deserted night and day, ex bargirls / freelancers / online girls have left town for their own province.

Don't expect things to get back to normal in Angeles for many many months.

[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;2443284]Think you will find that people who tested positive only to recover and test negative have tested positive again after a few weeks.

[URL]https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/cv19-asia/cv19-thailand/covid-19-reinfection-rates-increase[/URL]

There is no herd immunity, this will be over once they find a cure or immunization, maybe some 12 months away due to months of testing needed before allowed to be used on general public.

Although banks, supermarkets, hospitals are open the streets of Angeles city are deserted night and day, ex bargirls / freelancers / online girls have left town for their own province.

Don't expect things to get back to normal in Angeles for many many months.[/QUOTE]If that article is true, then antibody tests will be useless.

[QUOTE=SaltyPete;2443423]If that article is true, then antibody tests will be useless.[/QUOTE]This from CNN despite the Trump and his VP claiming test 'very soon' Just like his claim we have zero or one case and it will go away very soon.

Personally I listen to science and doctors on this not the Trump and his cronies. Fox News did a piece on why the malaria drug was great but look at facts (which it / others never do0 the sample size was fixed to ignore deaths and those in ICU with COVID 19.

So this article and SP's one is more realistic sadly.

[URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/14/health/coronavirus-antibody-tests-scientists/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=KabulGuy;2443265]My guess will be until end of May and then on limited relaxation of the lockdown. All the reading I have done says that too early a release of lockdown will result in a second wave.

However that may not be a bad thing, as more people are infected and recovered herd immunity will start to take effect.

The whole purpose of the lockdowns world wide is not to eradicate the virus, but to flatten the curve to the level that there is sufficient medical care available for those who are sick. I do not anticipate a full world wide lockdown release until either there is a virus or enough people have recovered and are immune to slow the spread that way. Both conditions are not mutually exclusive and IMHO will take at least 18 months to be realized.

Lets hope that the government funding and aid is delivered quickly. I am hearing from just about every girl I contact that they are hurting, hungry and that the local officials are corruptly keeping the relief supplies.[/QUOTE]I think it will last way past May KG. This article sent to me by GE says what I have been hearing and thinking. Today's COVID 19 cases in the slums / squatter area in Cebu (Zapetero) is proof this is a major problem for the country as the health care system is barely adequate IMHO to cope now let alone with huge numbers many expect especially out in the provinces.

[URL]https://www.esquiremag.ph/life/health-and-fitness/philippines-dead-last-in-coronavirus-pandemic-countries-safety-ranking-a00289-20200415[/URL]