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If the club is doing its job then each girl is asked to bring once a month a clean bill of health from a doctor. This is I believe a legal requirement. STDs are as much a danger for them (physically and commercially, nothing gets around quicker on the German boards than a dose of clap) as they are for you, in fact the girl is the most at risk. The top end clubs I would trust but the bottom feeder partytreffs are where you run the most risk. If you are worried then go to Sweden where you will not get a nasty little germ, indeed you won't get anything for your money. And as I read soon Britain will be a 'fun free zone' so stay at home is another option.

[QUOTE=Marlow]If the club is doing its job then each girl is asked to bring once a month a clean bill of health from a doctor. This is I believe a legal requirement.[/QUOTE]No, the "Bockschein" (obligatory bill of health) is not obligatory in Germany anymore since a few years now.

There are clubs like Bernds i.e. where the girls have to bring a clean bill regularly if they want to continue working in that club, but there are also clubs where the girls do not need to bring it at all.

[QUOTE=Everhard]If you cannot feel the difference I'm not sure if I envy you or pity you.....What choice do you have? This has happend to me too, so I know the feeling. It's quite possible, though not likely, that she has STD but isn't aware. Better make up an excuse to use condom with the girlfriend/wife for a couple of months:)[/QUOTE]

i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).

why couple of months? std usually show-up in 2-3 weeks unless you talking about hiv.

I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.

I lived for over 20 years in the Los Angles, Ca area so I am use to heavy traffic and congestion. I have also driven all over the USA, including many big cities like Chicago, Atlanta, etc. What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time? Getting lost easily?

Here is a plan I have been thinking about, getting a hotel room in Dusseldorf because the hotel rates there are the cheapest of any city I have looked including Roermond and Venlo. Then renting a car there and driving to GT for a day and then to YinYang for another day. Using Dusseldorf as my base. Also of course visiting LR. Or I could stay in Roermond and drive to GT and YY, but I could only find 1 hotel in Roermond with rooms when I plan to be in that area.

Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.

[QUOTE=All For Bb]over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).[/QUOTE]That's a lot. You're a champ indeed :-) But only 34 reports....... :-( Guess you're simply too busy.

I was referring more to the demand by responsible clubs that the girls themselves show they have been for a check up on a regular basis not the legal requirement which I wasn't sure still applied. Strange that the Germans so fanatical about health have dropped this, especially with the proliferation of clubs recently.

[QUOTE=All For Bb]i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).

That's 7,500 Euro a year excluding entrance fees. Over ten years it comes to ......a lot of money. Wouldn't a new wife be cheaper? Give the old one a 75,000 Euro pay off and get one (younger better) free, join a swinger group and lie down in a bed of pussies for less than the price of pizza meal for all eternity.

[QUOTE=Chukar]I have come to the conclusion I might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip. ... What concerns me about driving in Europe is off course all the road signs are in a language I don't understand. Did any of you Americans find it difficult driving in Europe the first time? [/QUOTE]

Road direction signs in Germany list the next few cities in the direction the road runs. It can get pretty confusing if you don't know the area or have a good sense of geography. There are a couple very simple solutions. Either get a car with a GPS or stop at a gas station and get a map.

[QUOTE=Marlow][QUOTE=All For Bb]i do not have sex with my wife anymore because she could not turn me on anymore unfortunately (or fortunately). my only sex life now is paid sex--eat (lick) and fk over 1500 young fresh pussies now (about 150/year).

That's 7,500 Euro a year excluding entrance fees. Over ten years it comes to ......a lot of money. Wouldn't a new wife be cheaper? Give the old one a 75,000 Euro pay off and get one (younger better) free, join a swinger group and lie down in a bed of pussies for less than the price of pizza meal for all eternity.[/QUOTE]

Nope, that's not a lot of money. Think of your house, possibly a vacation home, your cars, retirement package, stocks, other assets. If you split, you give up half of what you own, on average. If I had to pay my wife off, it would cost me more than 100 years of pussy at the rate you quote. P4P is way cheaper. ... and the variety is better, too ...

[QUOTE=Radler]Road direction signs in Germany list the next few cities in the direction the road runs. It can get pretty confusing if you don't know the area or have a good sense of geography. There are a couple very simple solutions. Either get a car with a GPS or stop at a gas station and get a map.[/QUOTE]

... or go to a store and buy a portable GPS. They start at a little over 100 euro now, plug into your cigarette lighter, and attach to the windshield with a suction cup. Then you never have to worry how to find your favorite club any more.

GPS option in a rental car is typically around 10 bucks per day, so buying your own cheap portable one quickly pays for itself.

While a map works in principle, it is really not practical. Trying to read a map while driving, possibly even with jet lag in your bones, can end up deadly.

[QUOTE=Euro100]... or go to a store and buy a portable GPS.[/QUOTE]This is indeed sensible advice. Some of these clubs are difficult to find in the extreme. Even the navigator stumbles sometimes (mine obviously doesn't going fucking in Oase, World or Samya, but it at least gets me within pussy-sniffing distance). Mind you, I suppose I know the way blindfold by now. :-) But I guess it's better to buy it in Europe (the navi as well as the pussy).

[quote=chukar]i have come to the conclusion i might be better off renting a car for at least part of my trip.

any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.[/quote]

try [url]www.sixti.de[/url] for cheap car rental - they have a place in dus. i've used them a couple of times when i've been staying in cologne. i rented the 'ford focus' type and they gave me a mini cooper s. the car was like a go-kart on steroids on the autobahn :) they don't do gps rental as the 'bigger' companies such as avis, hertz, etc. do but depending where you go you might be ok without gps.

each of the clubs has a 'how to get to us' section on their website and you can also check [url]www.viamichelin.com[/url] for driving directions. gt is pretty easy to find from the autobahn but i wouldn't fancy trying to get to phg without gps. also if you are heading out from duesseldorf past the airport watch out for speed cameras. there are several of them around the airport area (which is on the autobahn with about a 100kmh speed limit) and some of them are forward facing i.e. they will check your speed as you approach them. you won't get any points on your licence but the rental company will be chasing you for speeding fines or just take them off your credit card.

if you have a gps in the us depending on the make/model you can get european maps for it. if the gps uses sd cards to store the maps then it's easy to but european maps and you just swap the sd cards. you may even find copies of the european maps somewhere on the internet and just need to buy a new sd card to load them on to.

I often read about bareback, girls doing test for clubs, etc...

I would like to bring my input because I don't like to live in a wrong representation of world and particularly when I put myself in danger innocently. I discovered FKKs a little bit more than one year ago. I became very very quickly addicted and started endless club tours, willing to experience more and more. I visited the clubs on average 2 or 3 times a week during one year until I had to slow down due to overburn.

Quickly the challenge became to meet some girls outside the clubs which I achieved without too much difficulty. Of course you become closer and then friends, and sometimes you go for a short relationship (which is quite strange experience and turns down the illusion of FKK). But this never stopped me to go there.

Now what I have to say is the following:

none of the girls I met or know from clubs told me being obliged to make a test in order to work in a club.

They do this test on their own free will but can we assume that they all do? And what if the test is positive?

Also it happened to me several times that the condom was broken during a session, sometimes I noticed it too late... Of course we exchanged details in order to confirm a further test.

On the clinical side I got 3 times chlamydia (once with a new girlfriend) and one prostata infection (this last was not related to sex contact). But do not get me wrong, I do not say it is due to clubs.

Some of the girls working in RLD mention that they must provide a test but I do not know about this area.

After all I suppose it is more comfortable to think that they do but my experience is different. And anyway, we never know...

I keep thinking that I take less risks by having sex (covered) with girls in clubs than with girls I would pull out from discotek but this is only my opinion.

I do not want to bring up here an endless discussion but just to share my thoughts through an open forum where I can express my concerns and experience.

Def

Ok, since we're having fun debating GPS versus a good map from a gas station versus Google maps:

Google Earth identified Bernd's as marked by the blue "A" in the attached image. Having never been, but based on the pictures I've seen of the orientation of the house, I'd guess that the house marked by the white ? is Bernds. Can someone confirm? Pretty good resolution, actually! If someone were getting some action in the back yard I think we could see it. But it's a cold-weather image.

OBG

[QUOTE=Chukar]I
Here is a plan I have been thinking about, getting a hotel room in Dusseldorf because the hotel rates there are the cheapest of any city I have looked including Roermond and Venlo. Then renting a car there and driving to GT for a day and then to YinYang for another day. Using Dusseldorf as my base. Also of course visiting LR. Or I could stay in Roermond and drive to GT and YY, but I could only find 1 hotel in Roermond with rooms when I plan to be in that area.

Any suggestions, critics will be appreciated.[/QUOTE]

Etap Hotel, West Willich, 35 euro per night, within 30 minutes of all the clubs you mention. Why deal with Dusseldorf traffic?