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[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2449206]According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.[/QUOTE]If so it is very clear, most nations are not clear about prostitution.
Also this means that some brothels maybe in danger of bankrupt. I hope Globe will be OK with same owner. I love the line up and service requirement at Globe.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2449206]According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.[/QUOTE]Now I wonder what kind of semi illegal or law loophole situation Ingo is setting up from May 11th with Palace and Swiss "bars", as per the banners on Globe site. You meet hookers at the bar, and then go outside to do your things but where, in apartment? Or hotel?? At what cost? And what kind of line up if all the best are stuck in Romania or Germany?
Curiously the Globe Restaurant "bluff" has disappeared, I think he was planning to do the same as above but too suspicious frankly.
All very sad and sleazy and shady.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2449323]Now I wonder what kind of semi illegal or law loophole situation Ingo is setting up from May 11th with Palace and Swiss "bars" ...[/QUOTE]The Palace Bar is a stand-alone building from the main club / brothel, so I guess that opening could (just) be legit. Swiss - a bar that can only be accessed by opening the doors of a brothel? - can't see how that can be allowed.
Hard to get away with any nudge-nudge wink-wink stuff in the age of the Internet. Someone is always keen to tell all.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2449323]Now I wonder what kind of semi illegal or law loophole situation Ingo is setting up from May 11th with Palace and Swiss "bars", as per the banners on Globe site. You meet hookers at the bar, and then go outside to do your things but where, in apartment? Or hotel?? At what cost? And what kind of line up if all the best are stuck in Romania or Germany?
Curiously the Globe Restaurant "bluff" has disappeared, I think he was planning to do the same as above but too suspicious frankly.
All very sad and sleazy and shady.[/QUOTE]As far I remember Swiss Dietikon and Palace bars are in lounge, close to small kino on the right and jacuzzi on the left at Swiss, both not at all separate from brothel, with only one entry. Nevertheless, if no girls, only drinks and a bartender, but why going? To tell old stories like war? I don t care about clubs, only beauties interest me. Aphrodisia is already a bar and many guys go to drink, take drugs, not for girls.
[QUOTE=MrHo;2449245]If so it is very clear, most nations are not clear about prostitution.
Also this means that some brothels maybe in danger of bankrupt. I hope Globe will be OK with same owner. I love the line up and service requirement at Globe.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure Globe owner is very rich and will survive much more easier than so many around the world.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2449330]As far I remember Swiss Dietikon and Palace bars are in lounge, close to small kino on the right and jacuzzi on the left at Swiss, both not at all separate from brothel, with only one entry. Nevertheless, if no girls, only drinks and a bartender, but why going? ...[/QUOTE]
Cause 101% there will be "oh casually" prostitutes inside the bar but obviously he's not advertising cause he can't but they are free indipendent workers so can go to a bar, they can't?! Then you go outside somewhere else to, well, eat her cake!
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2449469]Cause 101% there will be "oh casually" prostitutes inside the bar but obviously he's not advertising cause he can't but they are free indipendent workers so can go to a bar, they can't?! Then you go outside somewhere else to, well, eat her cake![/QUOTE]Knowing kantonal polizei and Swiss administration, if no corruption to keep them away, then risky business for staff.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2449330]As far I remember Swiss Dietikon and Palace bars are in lounge, close to small kino on the right and jacuzzi on the left at Swiss, both not at all separate from brothel, with only one entry.[/QUOTE]Club Palace does have a bar in the main lounge, but the Palace Bar is a relatively new separate establishment just to the left of the club as you approach from the street.
[URL]https://www.palace-bar.ch/[/URL]
I have never been in there. Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2449206]According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.[/QUOTE]Do you have any source (link) for this? Or is it just a rumor?
[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2449206]According to the Federal Office for Public Health any type of prostitution, escort services etc are forbidden until 31 August. Before the summer vacation (July?) the situation will be evaluated and measures could be extended.[/QUOTE]Please ignore my previous question, Google helped me and I found this: [URL]https://www.bag.admin.ch/bag/fr/home/krankheiten/ausbrueche-epidemien-pandemien/aktuelle-ausbrueche-epidemien/novel-cov/massnahmen-des-bundes.html[/URL]#-1613991706.
Scroll down a litte and you will see what PaulInZurich already stated before.
So without a major change in situation, there won't be any opening of Globe or other clubs until beginning of September, nor any Escort services available in Switzerland.
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2449542]Club Palace does have a bar in the main lounge, but the Palace Bar is a relatively new separate establishment just to the left of the club as you approach from the street.
[URL]https://www.palace-bar.ch/[/URL]
I have never been in there. Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.[/QUOTE]Visited Palace only once, what a run leaving Zermatt, taking little train through Furkapass, I enjoyed to climb Furkapass on a Summer but windy, then on snow around Andermatt with super soft tires, it was night on ice, then lightened all radars on my run to Palace, this led me to jail few years later, I didn't find any attractive look among around 10 girls. I think Zeus is less expensive and higher level, for around Luzern. Didn't notice a bar. If brothels are forbidden in Switzerland at the moment, are bars allowed?
[QUOTE=ShoesAndSocks;2449542]....Reading its description, it sounds like a regular bar, but I got the impression its purpose was to be an alternative way to meet Club Palace girls without having to get undressed like in the club, and the girls take any interested guys across to a room in the club. So, as long as the club remained closed, it could operate under current restrictions as a bar.[/QUOTE]
No, they can't use rooms in the club otherwise technically Palace would be "open" and running and not closed, hence being out of the law.
I am sure girls will tell customers in the Palace Bar they have a private place (apartment, room) not far away and they must go there to do the session one way or another. Obviously landlord or renter of these flat for ladies should not be nominally the club or Ingo, but somebody under his control or a bogus company.
I think re-open will depend on:
-Open Swiss borders?
-Air-traveler restriction / quarantine (#days?
-Business-travel / economics of EU & USA.
-Liquidity of brothels.
-Liquidity of mongers.
-Supply of Girls.
-Supply of Mongers.
FKK model is a fine tuned equation; and if you lose one variable it spirals down.
FKKs as we know it may be gone; in 1980's gay bathhouses / swingers clubs (eg, Platos Retreat) in NYC were outlawed in AIDS crisis.
P.S., German FKK forum is in panic & pandemonium; everything from mongers swearing off FKKs; buying hazmat suits; suicidal despair, dating 50 yrs. + women.
Guess this was more than a hobby or lifestyle for some LOL.
[QUOTE=AdamCki;2449648]No, they can't use rooms in the club otherwise technically Palace would be "open" and running and not closed, hence being out of the law.[/QUOTE]Sure. I was describing how I understood the Palace Bar worked in normal times.
Interesting to note how differently two clubs where I've spent a lot of time (& money) are handling this.
Wellcum in Austria closed voluntarily (yes, they had no choice considering the crisis affecting their client base in Italy), and are simply saying "Club on vacation, see you soon".
The Globe chain, on the other hand ... erotic massage parlour turns into non-sexual massage therapist, Globe turns into a restaurant, brothels turn into bars.
Can't say I'm surprised by the behaviour of either.
[QUOTE=KaveMan;2449665]I think re-open will depend on:[/QUOTE]Yes, too many unknowns about this virus & uncertainties about the economic effects to even think about planning international travel. Obviously IF a vaccine becomes available, that would change things quickly.
I don't know what percentage of Globe clients are non-EU visitors from overseas (be they travelling for business or leisure), but that group won't be seen for quite some time even if re-opening is allowed in the coming months. Over the last 4-5 years, the constant gripe I've heard from Globe girls has been about the decline in client numbers, so if & when they return things will only be tougher for them.
Having said that, I imagine any re-opening will be celebrated with a gala party. Given Globe's reputation for public sex, the desire of girls to start earning money again, and the pent-up horniness of the guests, it should be a pretty wild & wanton night.