Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Goatscrot; 1501454]Dude, if you are going to spend tall coin on some jeans, go out and buy some good Japanese raw selvedge denim. Don't be seen in pre-washed jeans. Create your own fades. I ditched Diesel years ago. Yeah, new raw is a pain to break in, but after you will have the best fitting and best looking jeans you have ever had.

And if you want to buy local, there are several fantastic small brands here in Thailand (that use Japanese selvedge) and lots of shops selling Japanese brands. Try 'them out, you will love them, and no one will ever call you a douchebag. Peace.[/QUOTE]Care to share where one can buy the Thai brands that use Japanese selvedge?

Here is a freelance pickup spot I don't remember seeing mentioned here fellows, Grease Bangkok Sukhumvit 49.

[QUOTE=New Old Guy;1502771]With all the understanding for the attractiveness and sexual quality of a prostitute, I can' t for the life of myself comprhend how a serious monger can repeatedly pay (actually overpay) a same woman when knowin she's high rotation. Especially when it involves paying barfines or similar nonsense. Expensive entertainment once ok. Repeat the same over and over no thanks. If one likes a same woman so much (at times i do) take a mistress.[/QUOTE]What's the going rate for a mistress?

Will she be as hot as a sex trade stunner?

Will she do whatever I want with a smile?

High rotation? IOW experienced, knowledagble, skilled in her art. What's the problem?

[QUOTE=Pentire; 1502669]I've been mongering in Thailand for the thick end of 25 years and thank goodness for that with the current prices being quoted.

Even as recent as 2010 I was easily able to hire a very pretty GoGo girl all night for 2000 Baht be it Bangkok or Pattaya, alright I did have one or two try their luck for 3000 but we soon agreed a compromise closer to my ceiling. Now I'm hearing stories of girls asking 3-5000 on top of a bar fine. FFS this is outrageous.

My many expat friends living in the Big Mango place the blame fairly & squarely on the sex tourists from China, Japan & Korea, they claim without the patronage of these nations Nana Plaza prices would be much more appropriate to our expectations.[/QUOTE]I don't think the North asians are the whole problem, but they certainly have contributed to it. There are still plenty of westerners paying these high prices also, but if you go into the main areas in BKK you will see lots more asian tourists than ever before.

High season has an affect on these "outrageous" prices also. High season turns the marketplace into a sellers market, where the girls have the power to demand high prices.

From FL hangouts in BKK I can not adress anything but the fact I pay the same compensation all year around. FL wice the normal hangoutplaces seems to have same ammount of girls as well (I do ofcourse not count but it is my impression anyway). When I read MOST fl girls don't do LT and no GFE I dont recognize this. I do enjoy a combination of PSE / GFE tough. Since I enjoy some alone time after multiple poppings / beeing drenched (nighttime, bonerwakeups during sleep time and morning / daytimefucking even A+ service most of the time)my problem is more in line to get them to leave. Maby have something to with my chemistrybuilding. I elaborate later. I do compensate in the line of 3K(sometimes that is for very LT and an almost unbelievable amounts of sessions). Sometimes higher if very good quality of everything. For BG or Gullivers(quick take outs and more efficient chemistrybuilding, daytimeuse only, 1 or 2k(a+service mandatory and allways rubber use)..

Pricequotings is almost non existent to me (it do ofcourse happen but then I dismiss the girl) as I like to enjoy to figure out what kind of compensation they are worth at the end but i do compensate. The girls i deal with seems all happy with this and atleast no money is discussed. Why, i dont know as from what i read it seems girls quote prices in east and west and cheeky high ones too. What can be the reason for this???

Maby a big different between me and many other mongerers is that I invest quite some time if I see a girl that interests me into creating the good athmosphere through chemistrybuilding (drinking, laughing, kissing, treating her friends nice as it gives her good standing). Then the girls feel respected and I can sense the aftermatch will be a good one (works both ways). It is only normal that a girl no matter what we call her will performe better if she likes you. I strongly also believe, if not for others so for my own sake, into staying very well groomed and nicely dressed. I see guys hunting all the time not looking fresh and they are also not willing to spend a dime. The latter will ofcourse have some impact on ladies as we are talking about pay for play venues here (mostly). I know some of you think it is vaste of time doing it my way as we deal with pay for play girls. Each to his own i think have to be the right answer. To me when meeting a new girl what i mention above is half the fun as i like to party and have fun as well(why not together with some beauties i say). I know ofcourse i dont have to do it this way and i could have been more effective in my mongering but this is what works the best for me and my liknings. It also makes girls only want ST to go away(atleast i think so) as spending long time in a disco would be a vaste of time for her(or ofcourse they could change during time spend with me. As long as she does not puts out signals she is a ST girls and keeps quite about money i realy dont care. I guess i never will know).

As some other contributours state I also strongly believe if a girl quote a strange high price she is realy not motivated to go. Even if I don't have that problem it all makes perfect sense. If it is a wice choice to pick a girl not interested is another matter as she probably will only performe as little as possible / starfishing(using only half her engine).

And yes I am as normal talking about our beloved (or hated) places as Levels, Bash, Q-Bar, Climax, Mixx, Insanity, Shock39, CM2 (getting almost a place for Stanigirls / african women from my exp) , Thermae, Spasso. Gogo and BG and the barfine system is not to my liking(and yes i know some of these girls will wander off and hit mentioned places but that does not matter as long as no mama or papasan is involved). The only benefit i can see as i am very resteictive dealing with strechmarked girls is you can view ladies nude or almost nude in GoGo's. I mostly stay away from girls with children anyway and i do some touching and feelups during screening/interview process anyway so even if i have encountered a few saggy ones in my mongerlife it also leaves some excitement to the nudepart of the deal.

I have been around SEA in general and BKK more specificaly all year around for quite some years now. To me it is not important if it is high / low season as this has nothing to when I visit. From venues mentioned above it is no difference and I meet my semi pro girls anyway without any trouble. I usually don't hit the most hardcore material but as long as they stay away from quoting prices and are into having a blast I realy don't care so much what we should call these girls (I don't study their background anyway but you can easily sense if a girl is a hardened pro or a more newbee to the game and I end mostly up for some reasons unknown to me with the latter ones). Well one obvious reason is ofcourse i stay away from SC, Nana and Patong, i stay away from MP's and BJ bars and away from Streetwalkers. In Pattaya(only a very few days a year)same modus operandi(MO)meaning disco/nightclubs. I am also a big user of datingsites(in Thailand not so much as before)but mostly for China, Indonesia, Malaysia and Philippines(with great sucsess i might add).

It is nice to see we do conduct various MO but when i read some reports here they are very far from how i view the FL ladies. I guess that is just how life is sometimes.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1503094]Even if it is high or low season BKK is a very cheap place to have fun anyway. Stay strong and monger hard.[/QUOTE]Even though my typical mode of operation is different due to limited time I can appreciate you ways.

A question or two if I may? What time do you go to these venues on average and how much time do you spend there before taking a girl away? How would a non-drinker operate at these venues? Which disco has the best music for older guys?

[QUOTE=Kbkbal; 1502673]Dr. BJ's Nuru:

Went around 4pm on a Thursday. Lineup was not special. The (Scottish?) chap in charge recommended a chubby lass as providing the best service but I went for an "Optifick" and picked the youngest and cutest looking girl (think her name was "Beem"). Wanted to go for a VIP room but the guy said he wouldn't recommend her for the two hour option as she's new and provides more of a rushed service so I thanked him and went for a standard room. Wish I had gone for the VIP even if I didn't stay the full two hours. The standard room was basically just a shower room with a pvc mattress. All a bit wet and nasty (and chilly, thanks, to a blasting aircon and a cold water shower) and half the time I was fretting about all the germs and bacteria that must have been crawling around that wet mattress. The girl was a real cutie though. Very pretty, big eyes (big knockers too) and a nice attitude. Bit of a tummy on her, but hey. Did rush the B2B a bit but cheerfully provided all other services with quite a bit of gusto. Inexperience showed through in the BJ but was nice and tight when I went inside. This was another downside to the standard room. It was difficult to gain any purchase on that damn slippery mattress and doggy was a hell of a challenge. Managed to muddle through it somehow and ended with a fantastic splooge all over her pretty face, which she took with quite a bit of giggling, which is always nice.[/QUOTE]My observations on the standard room are pretty much the same as yours. Tried once, and don't intend to repeat as I prefer the Annies format better. Tip. For traction, rinse of the mattress first. And don't forget to switch off the aircon. Getting dressed in a wet room and putting on shoes in the corridor is real pain in the derriere.

9:15pm last night, Nana first floor: This pretty ladyboy grabbed my cock and told me we had not much time before the bars shutdown at 10pm due to the curfew. The only choice I had left, she said, was to barfine her asap and get dirty in the ST hotel upstairs. After freeing myself (and my cock) I proceeded to Mandarin (upstairs) and then Mandarin (downstairs). After a few drinks and friendly banter with 2 mamasans, I barfined this very nice lady called May. We went to Hillary on our way back (see notes below) and to the best of my knowledge it was almost midnight and everything looked normal. So I guess the curfew had not much effect in the lower Sukhumvit area.

Tonight might be different. It's 8pm and I can hear police sirens wailing every 15-20 mins since sundown. Pretty sure I also heard a mobile PA system announcement. The Sukh looks normal from my 10th floor balcony.

Other notes:

May tried to hustle me for 2 drinks for 2 of her friends who joined us at Hillary. I refused.

I payed May THB 4000 as agreed and as bargained down from the initial THB 5000 suggested by mamasan.

Room service was not available "due to the curfew". We survived on Pringles and Toblerones from the mini-bar, in between sessions.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1503102]Even though my typical mode of operation is different due to limited time I can appreciate you ways.

A question or two if I may? What time do you go to these venues on average and how much time do you spend there before taking a girl away? How would a non-drinker operate at these venues? Which disco has the best music for older guys?[/QUOTE]Well ofcourse it will vary what time I go but I normaly would say I hit them around 12am to 2am. If a place is rather slow I do ofcourse split and hit a new one but mostly I choose to stay where I first choose to go. When I hit up a girl or the other way around and she is to my liking I can easily spend 1 to 3 hours or so with her before getting down to business. I do carry a clock but I don't watch it very closely so what I write here would be just assumptions but probably more or less correct.

It is hard for me to tell how a non drinker would operate in venues like this as I only know them from a drinking point of view. But according to me it will allways be nice to treat the girls with some drinks (even if you don't drink I guess you don't mind a girl having a 2, 3 drinks?) as in my cases it easens the chemistrybuilding which I do love so much, hehe. As long as a girl feel certain she will get something out of it and not have to worry about you will pay or not I think if you drink or not is not of great importance.

To be frank I don't pay that much attention to the music but atleast Climax and Spasso have livebands playing. Spasso play more oldies goldies but you find also that afew times at Climax (but rather loud). Other mentioned venues do almost an all in new age style of music (ofcourse with exceptions) which of much I do not listen to in my freetime but as stated I realy don't care about the music (only girls). Quite some time since I visited Bangkok Beat but I do remember they also had a liveband quite decent (ofcourse that could have changed). Sorry I could not be of more help.

Would it not be a good idea if you went out and f*ck*the instead of rambling on?

[QUOTE=Scorchin;1503118]Would itSkbe a good idea if you went out and f*ck*the instead of rambling on?[/QUOTE]Yet another unwarranted attack. Skogis posted info related on how to get a good fuck while having good time at a club. Clicks with this forum purpose.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1503115]Sorry I could not be of more help.[/QUOTE]No no, that was fine. My difficulty is being too old for very late night mongering and having to get sufficient sleep to be able to work too. I have been to discos like Bed supper, Climax, and Insanity, etc. And Climax was the only one I enjoyed at all as had okay music, but always took a girl with me, so to go alone would be a new experience. I don't really like the discos that much. I do prefer live bands.

I don't mind buying girls alcoholic drinks even if I am not partaking. I don't drink much alcohol for reasons of weight loss and also as I am not very sensitive and alcohol just weakens the feeling. I don't mind drinking alcohol after sex, occasionally. I don't need alcohol to relax, or to forget the world, or even to become a more silly person that talks too much.

I believe just the one vice is enough for me. Just only sex mongering. Perhaps the 2nd vice, is writing too much on the ISG.

As for Scorchin, I think he forgot how much padding, not really related to sexual encounter useful details, that he writes too. Its hard to recall him giving any great intel of use to me, and I don't agree with most of his views anyway. Probably is from a different planet and sees things completely differently.

In the end, Skogis, I don't think you waste as much forum bandwidth as some of the rest of us that write far too frequently (including myself). Then there are the overly negative types out there that really make me wonder. Some of those have fortunately become noticeably absent lately.

[QUOTE=KiJang;1503114]So I guess the curfew had not much effect in the lower Sukhumvit area.[/QUOTE]That's right. If you are in the bars blissfully unaware or ignoring the curfew, then no problem. The bars did not close at 10PM where I was. Tonight I stay home but not because of curfew. My best bargirl is on the rag. LOL

[QUOTE=KiJang;1503107]My observations on the standard room are pretty much the same as yours. Tried once, and don't intend to repeat as I prefer the Annies format better. Tip. For traction, rinse of the mattress first. And don't forget to switch off the aircon. Getting dressed in a wet room and putting on shoes in the corridor is real pain in the derriere.[/QUOTE]I agree. The weather is very nice this time of year so switching off the aircon when in a wet situation is a good option. Thai girls particularly don't like to get very cold.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1503046]What's the going rate for a mistress?

Will she be as hot as a sex trade stunner?

Will she do whatever I want with a smile?

High rotation? IOW experienced, knowledagble, skilled in her art. What's the problem?[/QUOTE]
I would say anywhere from 30.000 a month to the sky limit.
Of course she will do everything with a smile, otherwise why would you have entered the deal.

My issue with doing frequents almost daily repeats with a popular girl is that when the goods are really good I want them for me only. Not a matter of jealousy, but more practical, I want her fresh and available 24/7.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1503115]Sorry I could not be of more help.[/QUOTE]Perfect. I just need a wingman in these clubs.