Medellin Reports

This is as much common sense as it is market dynamics. As I wrote before, no one honestly believes their aren't plenty of guys paying way above market rates but the market is not overheated. This is because supply far exceeds the demand of guys who pay at, below, and above market rates.

In a closed market like one of the gringo hotels or seeking arrangement, the demand can sometimes exceed the supply. Loutron, for example, keeps its market closed by being isolated from other casas. They would have a harder time getting their rate if you could walk to a competitor in less than 5 minutes. It is the same concept that explains why a bottle of water in an airport shop costs so much more than it does outside the closed market of the airport concourse. There is huge demand but a limited supply among very few providers.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2199316]I'm not up to speed on economics, but I can't see how 1 person, overpaying slightly 5 to 10 girls is going to raise the rates of 40,000 prepagos.[/QUOTE]

In the real world, it is the ratio of available cars of any certain class to the number of buyers that determines pricing levels and the willingness of buyers to pay them. It's known as market economics. As in any quantitative system, there are outliers (e. G. Buyers willing to pay above market rates). Outliers by definition are grossly outnumbered, rendering their impact on a market negligible. Seeking Arrangement, mansion, etc are not the same market as mileroticos, Centro casas, or facebook bunnies. Any girl in a mileroticos, Centro or facebook market who demands a rate from a different market will be denied more often than not-until she gets an outlier. Outliers don't move markets. Emotion driven decision making in financial markets (yes, mongering is a financial market) creates outliers, but again, outliers don't move markets. So back to girls, this is not the bloody Financial Times after all.

[QUOTE=Socker;2199310]A better one. Lets say your fellow car buyers are paying more than the asking price. Now the car dealers are going to think the asking price is too low. So your competition is unintentionally jacking up the prices.

That's what this whole topic is about. Guys are giving more than is asked or are ignorant of the going rates. That's what this board is for: to find out the who, what, where and how much.

Guys that throw money around without regard to the local market will eventually reck it. Over tipping is a different matter but can also kill the fun of others. Usually when you over tip the girl they will say nothing or a simple thank you. This is because they think you made a mistake w / the local currency and don't want to alert you to it. Over tipping is stupid but we all do it (at times) because we get too happy I guess.

There should be unity about this. You want high end, go high end. You want to bottom fish you know where to go.[/QUOTE]

I like your style.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199416]1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.

I don't know if I can name the US forum board here, but there's a humongous discussion on SA that started within the last few months. Much of it is baloney and doesn't readily apply to Colombia, but there's some helpful info. PM for the name of the board unless I'm allowed to name it here. And I will be happy to share my thoughts / tips on SA here, though I am far from an expert.

2. I apologize to Mr. E for taking issue with his remarks. However, the tone of the message seemed a bit harsh to me.

3. For the most part, I appreciate the remarks. Support as well as criticisms. I take the suggestions seriously, the ones about prices..[/QUOTE]

Excellent report, honest, fair, and informative. It's clear you and your friend are experienced. Thank you for sharing.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Had a great first trip to Colombia mid-June for 6-days, two in Cartagena and four in Medellin. My buddy and I are experienced mongers having been to Costa Rica, Panama, DR, St. Maarten, Curacao, multiple times over the past decade, Colombia has been high on our list of destinations but we have not been able to pull it off until now. It was worth the wait and can't wait to go again.

A little background, I am early 40's, gringo with basic to conversational Spanish, by friend is early 50's, Latin with fluent Spanish. We are both married so not interested in networking on Facebook, Tinder or Colombian Cupid, lining up GF Chicas and building a contact list for future trips. We are in-and-out, fuck as many as we can in a few short days, and forget them. It's not everyone's style, but works for us. So here was our trip..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199232] I've been on the site long enough and see the same argument. Overpaying is ruining it for everyone. I think that's baloney.[/QUOTE]You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.

However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.

In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.

The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.

If guys are sensitive to comments on their spending habits, then maybe they shouldn't post their expenditures. It can always be revealed in PM.

Aren't we here to discuss and learn? If your not able to handle opinions and criticism whether constructive or otherwise, that's unfortunate.

I don't mind contributors posting what they pay because I know who has negotiation skills and who doesn't get it.

Everyone wants a great deal and your a liar if you don't.

BTW, Tipping is still a city in China IMO, LOL.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2199416]1. I received several PMs asking me to share the women I found on SA. I won't do so without checking with the women. However, that would be a monumental task with my less than stellar Spanish. Most of the women have some sort of screening process, albeit very casual. For the most part, the arrangements I made have been cultivated after chatting a while over one day to a few days.
[/QUOTE]You could post links to their ads or their SA user names. That's all public info anyway.

[QUOTE=IslandMonger;2199367]Day 3 - Medellin at last! Been dying to go here for years, and finally here after a short 1-hour flight from Cartagena. Staying at the Mansion 2 and they arrange a driver to pick us up for $75 k. Fernando was waiting when we arrived. I walked out of the airport and the weather was perfect, low 70's, no humidity and a slight chill in the air. I was in heaven. Shortly afterwards I discover the airport is a good 2,000 ft higher than the city, it's at 7,000 ft and the city is 4,900 ft, so it's much cooler here, damn it. Anyhow, Medellin is warmer but overall comfortable, nothing like Cartagena. We get to the hotel around noon but our rooms won't be ready till 4 pm. We grabbed our cash and passports, left our bags with the office, and walked down Poblado avenue to the outdoor complex to the currency exchange (2,750 was the best exchange rate we got) and pretty decent since the current rate was 2,900. We changed some cash and walked to Santa Fe mall across the street, awesome 5-story shopping mall. I felt like I was back in the states. Walked to Hard Rock and had lunch and watched a World Cup game, then back to the hotel and got settled. Freshened up and grabbed a cab down to Centro as I was dying to hit some Casas. I did my homework before the trip and knew there were 5 Casas within walking distance of each other, and located them on Google Earth "street view" so I knew exactly what they looked like and could navigate the area comfortably..[/QUOTE]Nice report!

I also had a bad visit my one time to Energy. However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway. I have yet to have a Medellin girl with any bad odor and I have been down on a few, my condolences on your Energy girl.

If you go back give Conejitas a few tries at different times. I have been in and out of the main 3 Centro clubs a lot in the last year and while Conejitas has a lower avg hottness, their A Team girls when they are there will usually be the hottess in the Centro strip clubs. Barra Ejective usually has more 6-7's but Conejitas sometime has some 8+'s. And Conejitas rooms are much nice then those dark sweat boxes Barra Ejectiva has, I even like Maracaibo's tiny rooms better then BE's.

And the redlight blocks need several laps a day to find something, that's why I stay close to there hotel-wise. Behind the Vera Cruz white church has occasional cuties 30 k, the DeGreiff and carr54 block will have usually / ocaasionally some hotter ones for 50 k+. My fav girl in 4 trips of 6 days each was a Vera Cruz street girl who was cool, hot, chill, horny and fun, gave her 80 k for about 4 hours in my room.

Conejitas girls I have met:

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2199606]Nice report!

However my New Life girl wouldn't let me pay her, told me to pay at the desk on the way out, some of them are honest anyway.

[/QUOTE]I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.

What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?

[QUOTE=MedellinGringo;2199769]I didn't think it was even possible to get ripped off at a casa.

What would have happened if you paid her instead of the front desk?[/QUOTE]Well according to the report I was responding to, she keeps it as a tip and then you still owe the whole amount to the desk. Not sure if they had a communication issue or she was trying to rip him off though.

Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2199815]Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's too bad, Sofy was on my radar too, does she least look as hot in person?

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2199815]Do not session with either of these two, they are absolutely useless. If I knew what f-ing a dead fish was like I would say I could get more pleasure out of f-ing a dead fish!. Waste of time effort and money, bad attitude, no enthusiasm, late, etc. Etc. Etc. , everything hurts, blah blah blah.

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/el-poblado/hermosa-escort-nueva-modelo-a-la-espera-de-complacerte-id-ann5r[/URL]

[URL]https://m.co.mileroticos.com/escorts/luisa-80-una-hora-todos-los-servicios-ilimitados/10899289/[/URL]

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.

[QUOTE=Jim0129;2199820]Sorry you got burned, one question though, the girl from photoprepagos, is she really the girl in the photos? I've always thought that mileroticos and photoprepagos were full of bait and switch.[/QUOTE]They were indeed the same girl as in the photos on their ads. I had a couple of bait and switch ME girls in CTG last May, but other than that I have had extremely good success on Mileroticos and this is the first trip I have used photo Photo Prepagos. I will continue to use in ME and PP until the law of averages catches up with me. As usual Facebook has been a gold mine this trip as in the other trips to the MDE.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2199514]You really don't get it?
Sure, you are free to pay whatever you like, and you will not move the market spreading your bills. I think nobody intended to argue that really.

However, the important point is that, while everyone is welcome to post his experience here (and of course should be open to negative as well positive comments, most of the time courteous), senior members who have spent years on site have not only the right to express criticism, if they feel so, but even the moral obligation towards the 90% of the readers, who have no experience on site, to warn when something not advisable is reported.

In your case, 400 k is the price that one is expected to pay when pulling out a stripper from a high-class club for an overnight, and I am not sure it would be justified anyway. First-class girls in Medellin cost 200 k, and usually that includes some dinner or club time before the deed. If a girl is not a hard-core pro with an agenda full of appointments hour after hour (but I don't understand those who are interested to that kind of well-known pornstar-like stars), she will be happy to enjoy some time with the man, preparing the chemistry to the sex.
200k is the price that one should expect to pay with a very nice girl, without much negotiation, and I am not speaking about cheap experiences with street girls.

The aim of those who commented your post, me included, was solely warning people who do not know, not "scolding" you. You are not a little boy. I hope you will enjoy even more your next stay.[/QUOTE]Black Page, You don't get it. Jooks said he paid [B]up to[/B] 400 K for women who spent multi hours to [B]all night[/B] with him, including one that came all the way from Cali. He found them on [URL]seekingarrangement.com[/URL]. Women there run the gamut from virgins to hard core putas. Some of us avoid the hard core ones there, and cut them loose as soon as they start talking price. Instead we use the site to rent girlfriends, not to find high volume prostitutes for dinner and a poke. You give her what you want to. If she likes you or if you're generous she'll probably want to see you again. If she was an 8 or a 9, acted like a girlfriend, and Jook paid 400 K and spent half the day or all night with her and had a great time, more power to him. He did very well. If you want to bang as many hookers as you can and pay less, more power to you too. You and he have different preferences, different styles. Neither is superior. Neither of you is naive.

It was obvious from Jooks' first post that he was adverse to criticism. I would have liked to have heard more about his SA dates, but that's probably not going to happen now.