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[QUOTE=Evianist; 1506094]I mean regular Thai massage shops that you see on many streets. Not special oily places.

Now when they see a farang come in they try to force me to get an "aromatherapy" massage when I just want a Thai massage with a female masseuse.

Policy started in 2012.[/QUOTE]Ladies learnt that by adding some sex delivery they can earn more, from 500 onward, as in oilies. They don't get much when they do a traditional massage and the tip will be minimal, if there is a tip. Giving a HJ or a bit more will give the opportunity to earn a more secure and higher tip with little effort. Oily massage gives more opportunities to hands to browse in a nice way over the body or the skin. Didn't you notice that a good HJ gives better results with oil or cream than a mere dry wanking (whoever does it)?

[QUOTE=MisterQuickie;1506132]I have been reading this forum intently as I've got my first visit to BKK coming up. I'll have a short layover there. Basically, I'll be free from around 10 am in the morning until around 6 pm in the evening. From reading many of the posts here, my impression is that most of the bars don't really get hopping until much later in the night.[/QUOTE]Many Oily massage places that get discussed in Massage thread will be open in the daytime and also Annies. There are daytime bars with girls available on Sukhumvit Soi 4 within 50 metres of main road such as "Morning Night","Big Dog", etc. Girls will take you to nearby short time Hotel where you pay for a room for up to 2 hours max. There is also Biergarten of Sukhumvit Soi 7.

[QUOTE=Altered Ego;1506018]I am not really interested in the 'mature' end of the market, neither am I very interested with massage places.[/QUOTE]Why not? I am not interested in massage in the slightest. I don't go there for a massage. I only go to get a good sex session with a good quality girl. There are not so many top quality, but a few. The odd massage girl of quality is capable of acting like an escort girl (okay not many are this good) outside the establishment, but a lot cheaper. I once took an MP girl on holiday 3 or 4 days to Krabi and Phi Phi Island. Was a bit costly but a lot less than an escort. Several times have taken Soapy girls somewhere outside the massage venue, as if she was an escort, for extended time including overnight.

Not sure what you mean by "mature". Some Thai girls aged 27 to 30 can be mature adult in attitude but still look like a 19 year old. I have no problem with this age bracket and certainly don't regard these girls as past it. I don't need 16 year olds and its not legal anyway. They can be very experienced and skilled and still look very young. My favourite bargirl is over 30, I forget exact age but she looks 21 no problem. Body is slim and extremely toned looking like a gymnast. Very popular. So to me the actual technical age does not matter if the girl does not look really ancient and still has a good body. Some of the 22 year old look terrible in comparison, like having their tits sucked out till they are just hanging bags.

When you say you like certain sources of girls, its not easy to guess what your reasons are and precisely what you look for. I mean if you are going to pay her, then working girls are working girls, whatever the source.

Interested in an Opinion. I know this young very inexperienced bargirl (5 weeks in total) at Long Gun. She is all natural and has a good body and a pretty face, looks very young, but darkish skin. She has zero English. I had to translate for her the meaning of 69 and blowjob into Thai. LOL. I intend to buy her that bargirls English guide to chatting up customers, but don't know precisely how much help it will be.

Is she really significantly stuffed for getting customers, having virtually zero English? She maintains I have been the only guy to take her so far (maybe 4 times). She can be enthusiastic about sex once gets turned on and can do a blowjob quite well, but not the world's most skilled in bed just yet, maybe just average good. I guess there are potentially other customers than can speak a bit of Thai but I have no idea what percentage this will be. Would 20% be a fair guess or maybe its very dependent on the particular bar? Are any non-Thai speakers interested in a girl with no English or is it just too much hassle?

I believe she studied English at school to rudimentary level but is at least 3 years ago and seems to have been forgotten.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1506294]I once took an MP girl on holiday 3 or 4 days to Krabi and Phi Phi Island. Was a bit costly but a lot less than an escort. Several times have taken Soapy girls somewhere outside the massage venue, as if she was an escort, for extended time including overnight.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,

There seems to be little / no info about this option on the forum.

Can you please give some guidance to how much the cost is to have a MP girl not coming to work / per day, and also how this is arranged (agreement with management, ect?)

Greetings, Ken Apples

[QUOTE=MisterQuickie; 1506132]Guys,

I have been reading this forum intently as I've got my first visit to BKK coming up. I'll have a short layover there. Basically, I'll be free from around 10 am in the morning until around 6 pm in the evening.[/QUOTE]The (in) famous Eden Club ([url]http://www.edenbangkok.com[/url]) opens at 12:30 and is in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1 where you will also find a lot of massage parlours that open early and the chain of Dr. BJ's establishments. ([url]http://bjbarbangkok.com/[/url])

The only thing you will miss are the agogo-clubs.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1506328]Interested in an Opinion. I know this young very inexperienced bargirl (5 weeks in total) at Long Gun. She is all natural and has a good body and a pretty face, looks very young, but darkish skin. She has zero English. I had to translate for her the meaning of 69 and blowjob into Thai. LOL. I intend to buy her that bargirls English guide to chatting up customers, but don't know precisely how much help it will be.

Is she really significantly stuffed for getting customers, having virtually zero English? She maintains I have been the only guy to take her so far (maybe 4 times). She can be enthusiastic about sex once gets turned on and can do a blowjob quite well, but not the world's most skilled in bed just yet, maybe just average good. I guess there are potentially other customers than can speak a bit of Thai but I have no idea what percentage this will be. Would 20% be a fair guess or maybe its very dependent on the particular bar? Are any non-Thai speakers interested in a girl with no English or is it just too much hassle?

I believe she studied English at school to rudimentary level but is at least 3 years ago and seems to have been forgotten.[/QUOTE]She's been working 5 weeks & doesn't know the meaning of "smoke"?

I've picked up street girls like her quite a few times. Maybe she should switch jobs if she wants to make more dough. Even deaf girls are out there making a killing.

Working girls don't need any English, just a piece of paper that says one hour one thousand. In Singapore many PRCs, Viets, etc only know one word, like "fifty" or "thirty", or they hold up 3 or 5 fingers if they haven't learned that yet. Some use English translators to "talk" with their phones.

It isn't rocket science.

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples; 1506346]Syzygies,

There seems to be little / no info about this option on the forum.

Can you please give some guidance to how much the cost is to have a MP girl not coming to work / per day, and also how this is arranged (agreement with management, ect?)

Greetings, Ken Apples[/QUOTE]All MP's tariffs show long time / out calls, just browse around.

Annie's surely does and lists the terms and conditions.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1506289]Many Oily massage places that get discussed in Massage thread will be open in the daytime and also Annies. There are daytime bars with girls available on Sukhumvit Soi 4 within 50 metres of main road such as "Morning Night","Big Dog", etc. Girls will take you to nearby short time Hotel where you pay for a room for up to 2 hours max. There is also Biergarten of Sukhumvit Soi 7.[/QUOTE]Correct as indeed all oilies and soapies open at 11am.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1506328]Is she really significantly stuffed for getting customers, having virtually zero English? She maintains I have been the only guy to take her so far (maybe 4 times).[/QUOTE]Youth and beauty are the two main factors that fill the girls' pockets full of cash.

Remember the old saying: " How do you know when a bargirl is lying to you. When her lips are moving"

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples; 1506346]Syzygies,

There seems to be little / no info about this option on the forum.

Can you please give some guidance to how much the cost is to have a MP girl not coming to work / per day, and also how this is arranged (agreement with management, ect?)

Greetings, Ken Apples[/QUOTE]I don't normally like to discuss exact payments. Can find out from web site or shop or girl what must be paid to management per day. I suggest ask the girl first. In some shops especially Soapies it may not be officially allowed at all but girl may still be willing to pretend she is away sick.

Then need to consider what the girl's normal earnings per day is. Mostly I think girls will not want to go away if they will lose money unless need a break from work badly.

Also they may not be interested if you are cheap Charlie and want to fuck many times at a greatly discounted rate.

I have a GF so have not taken a working girl away more than single overnight since 2008. However still here of guys barfining girls for several days so they don't have to show up to work and can go to Pataya or wherever.

Right now times are tough. Some girls have little business and could be easily persuaded for a steady money supply. It's probably a buyers market right now except for the very busy girls.

This topic is rarely discussed because most guys are looking for a cheap 1 hour fuck. I am mostly looking for just 2 hours these days. I don't need many fucks per day and don't have time for it. Morning wake up sex would be nice though.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1506494]Remember the old saying: " How do you know when a bargirl is lying to you. When her lips are moving"[/QUOTE]Girls have little need to lie to me as I don't ask them difficult questions. I also find some girls amazingly honest. The girl tells me she is 33 even though I would have believed 24 quite easily. The tells me that she spoke to me on the phone in a strange tone as she was with a Farang who did not want her to go to the bar to work. She however was happy to go to the bar to meet me and said was lucky we conversed in Thai as he could not understand her phone conversation. Some girls can be sneaky without actually telling many lies. I know about her many customers and show no signs of jealousy so she doesn't need to tell me bullshit. It's simple. Either she is available or she isn't. She doesn't want to be tied down by anyone.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1506494]Youth and beauty are the two main factors that fill the girls' pockets full of cash.[/QUOTE]Ummm, well initially, but if she does not perform there will be few repeats.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1506390]She's been working 5 weeks & doesn't know the meaning of "smoke"?[/QUOTE]This is a funny word. It indicates the bargirl's English is poor.

Thai for smoke a cigarette is "Duut burii"."Duut" literally means to suck (air). Unfortunately many Thai to English books that girls use, translate "Duut" as meaning "to smoke" which is technically not general enough, but that is why girls will say "smoke" when they mean "to suck". It has then become a standard Euphemism over time.

A better word for a BJ in Thai is actually "Om" which is used also for sucking on a lolly, since a BJ does not require an air sucking action like smoking does.

As I was first guy to barfine her, I decided was better to teach her "blow-job". I hope the customers will not ask her for "smoke". She might give them a cigarette or might have no clue at all. Actually girls are not permitted to take cigarettes inside Long Gun main bar. One bar was burnt down not that long ago.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1506592]Ummm, well initially, but if she does not perform there will be few repeats.[/QUOTE]But there will sufficient one off customers in the future.

Just like with the rip offs venues or girls. They will nto get repeats, for sure and the robbed guy will not go there or book the girl again.

Nevertheless they still open and work night after night. Month after month. Means they have a solid non repeat customer volume.