Bangkok Reports

My last day of my pilgrimage to Asia and my sweet friend from Baccara overslept even though I tried to wake her up a couple times. A few times before she left she asked if we were going to spend my last night in Bangkok together and each time I told her that I probably would not be going to Soi Cowboy to barfine her. I think she was a little disappointed but given her good nature she just smiled, hugged me and left for her retail job on the other side of Bangkok. One more night with this sweet girl and I would have felt a connection and it was best to end it than have to say goodbye to her the morning of my departure. I didn't come here to fall in love or develop any feelings for one girl and that is why I never spent my afternoons with any girl that I spent an evening with.

Today would be a day of rest, as I attempted to try to get back on schedule with the US. My plan was to visit Le Belle one last time and then head to Rainbow 4 to barfine a girl on my last night. After a few hours at the pool, I took a great nap and then headed off to my favorite place in Bangkok. Well that is until today.

I arrived at Le Belle around 6pm and the pps who had helped me the two times I was there this week was off today. I got a mms that didn't speak very good English. There were only a handful of girls available and I was told only about 20 were working today. I opted to order some dinner and wait for some girls to come back downstairs. There were very few customers waiting around for girls, but one Japanese gentleman apparently was sent in before his friends to round up a group of girls. He had another mms helping him and she brought him every girl that became available. Sure enough he selected every girl that was brought to him and they sat with him in the lounge and waited for his friends to arrive. At first my mms told me I could take one of these for an hour but his mms said no. To make matters worse, the X model that I saw two days ago showed up but ended up leaving because she was sick. We spoke briefly and exchanged email addresses and phone numbers. Given that there really were no girls available and my mms was absolutely no help to me, I decided to leave without picking a girl and just go to Nana. I was a little frustrated with the way I was treated, but there was limited inventory and this Japanese guy was ready to throw down some money. These Thai establishments cater to Japanese men and get a lot of preference.

I arrived at Rainbow 4 shortly after 8 and it was busy with a lot of girls but nothing like the other nights. I immediately spotted the girl that I was with the previous night with the amazing butt and bought her a LD and then asked if she wanted me to barfine her. After she changed and came back, I told her it was my last night in Bangkok and that I might want to barfine two girls. I then selected another really hot lady and we were off to my hotel.

Laying in my big bed with two hot Thai girls was a perfect way to wrap up my trip to Asia. One girl was riding me while the other girl had her pussy in my face and then they switched. After the first time, some how I got hard again and just focused on one of the girls while the other one slept. I took her into the bathroom and we took a bath together and then fucked again on the edge of tub. After I finished and she was cleaning up, I gave her some money and told her she could sleep or go home if she wanted. She got changed and left as I got into bed with the other girl. I slept for a couple of hours and woke ready to fuck her one more time. Total GFE with this girl and again, I handed her money and told her she could sleep some more or go home. She changed, gave me a wonderful hug goodbye and left.

I do want to wrap up by sharing a few more things I learned about this farang thing. Both of these girls tonight shared with me that they have had bad problems mostly with farang that don't pay them. Apparently young guys get really drunk, can't finish and don't want to pay the girl. While I am sure this happens with men of all races, it's a bigger deal with farang. Both of these girls shared with me that like my friend from Baccara, they also prefer to go with Japanese men. They also shared that Japanese men pay 3000THB for ST and 8000-10000THB for LT and never try to negotiate with them over price. Yes, I am sure you can find girls to go for 2500/5000 like in a lot of postings, but if you want one of the hottest girls in the bar and she is going to be in high demand you better be prepared to spend some more money. Remember, if a hot girl works 8pm to 2am, she can easily do 4-5 ST in a night. If you want to take her early like the Japanese customers, you can't be afraid to spend a little extra.

So now knowing that I happen to like the type of places that cater to Japanese customers and are not necessarily farang friendly, I would adjust my approach a little to overcome being a farang and take one of these ladies out for the evening. First, I would give the girl a tip on stage (100-200THB) to make her know I am interested and will take care of her financially. I would then buy her a lady drink and possibly even tip her a little more as she is sitting with me. If she doesn't go with farang much if at all, she will be really uncomfortable with not being able to speak and communicate in English. I used a translator app on my phone and they responded well to that. Next, I would really try to make the girl as comfortable as possible by complimenting her hair or makeup. Next, in my phone I would type in a very appealing offer to her. If I want to take her LT, I would let her know that I don't expect her to stay til the sun comes up and she can leave at 4-5 if she wants. Again, this is only what I would do to take a girl that is not comfortable with being with a farang. One last note, if you go into one of these bars dressed like a sex tourist in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops, don't expect one of these girls to talk to you. If you go in dressed really nicely like a businessman that is just looking for some companionship while he is in Bangkok for business, you will greatly improve your odds getting a girls attention. I appreciate there are probably a lot of places like Spasso where the girls love farang, but I seemed to be attracted to the girls that work at bars that are less farang friendly.

So after spending several days in Bangkok will I go back? Yes! The flight from the United States is really a ***** on your body / sleep, but I just don't know a place in the world where you can find girls like this for the money.

she is attractive and her fake glasses are her niche. she is good at her job but she is very to the point, nothing else. she did let me barely suck on her tits since i told her it would speed things up but she was not allowing anything else. it was only a few seconds of sucking nipples. she did have a good technique but horrible attitude. a smile goes a long way and if she would look at you as she does it it would be better since she is cute, but nah. imho [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url] down soi 8 was better. a few cute girls. you can fuck them but ymmv. they are more customer friendly and not as cold. i haven't tried anyone else at dr bj. don't think its worth it to blow my load there.

[quote=bionicman; 1507491]great report, by the way, many should get inspirations from this format. lots of people seem attracted by this girl, thanks to her look: aggressive boobs, juicy lips and those glasses adding a secretarial look.

i have warned in the past that there is not always much substance behind her, and i was accused of having my own agenda. not at all, as my reason of the warning was to avoid what happened to you.

i experienced her when she was at annie's and was not impressed at all. not to mention those boobs: the surgeon shoul dbe diqualified from the profession (and that is the reason why she does not remove her bra)

she probably went to dr bj as her image fits for the job and she doesn't necessarily have to get naked (but many may still expect some topless or fondling even in a bj only joint).

most likely she is also not much interested (anymore?) in the job and sees the years passing by.

she should better mvoe to another job in the industry and might find better satisfaction for herself too.

somehow i feel sorry for her, but it is a fact we are paying and expect something back.[/quote]

So let me get this right: BJ only with EE? That can't be all that's available. If a punter wanted more all he had to do was order up full service for 1000bt extra on top of the BJ service, right? The web site states "for VIP Service + 1000" and then the VIP room has a bed and soapy tub. So I am assuming that full service is on the menu if you want it.

Personally I'd take L or P over EE any day. EE's tits are a bad joke. (just my opinion) Still if all I wanted was a mouth massage, I guess EE might be ok. Her lips look interesting.

First time in Thailand, first report. After checking into hotel, I walked up the street and was approached by "Pink" from Eden Club. We chatted briefly and told her I would be back. After walking around, I headed back and saw she was still there. We headed up to her room and negotiates began. She started with 3, 000. Based on the research I've been doing, I figured that was too much and countered with 1500. After some discussions, we settled on 2, 500 which I thought was still too much. I figured I would post a report and asked for more sage advice.

Pink is very nice look, hard to tell how tall she is because of high heels. She is petite and all natural. She does have a tramp stamp. I showered up and she started with BBBJ with was nice. Not great but not bad either. She did pay since attention to my perineum and ass which I enjoyed. She even rimmed me! She asked me if I wanted cim and to tell her when I was ready! The pop was great! I was hoping for a 2nd which I thought we settled on. But it wasn't to be. She wanted another 2,500.

Is MSOG the norm? Looking at the Eden website (and other) , they advertise 4, 200 for 2 girls. Is that all inclusive (less tip if 1 is so inclined)? What is the going rate for the ladies, less whatever the massage cost? Please help make me a better monger.

Thanks,

Cyberhard

ATexGuy, your field reports are awesome! Very objective, and including price breakdown for all transactions.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1507743]ATexGuy, your field reports are awesome! Very objective, and including price breakdown for all transactions.[/QUOTE]Great reports. Only photos could make them better. Agogo girls who can specialize in Ippuns are few and far between- good for them but most just don't have the look.

Only thing is I wish is that I see all these gorgeous girls the guy sees at Baccara and Rainbow 4. Both places are full of unattractive and mediocre at best-kind of girls. No way is Ippuns paying 10k for lt. On their froums they ask prices jsut like the rest of us and the common price quoted is 2.5k st and 5k lt.

When girls give stories I think they use the exception to the rule to make it sound better. Just because 1 guy paid lt 10k doesn't mean they all do.

Remember a girl that goes with farangs probably is not coveted highly by Japanese, exceptions noted.

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1507674]So now knowing that I happen to like the type of places that cater to Japanese customers and are not necessarily farang friendly, I would adjust my approach a little to overcome being a farang and take one of these ladies out for the evening. First, I would give the girl a tip on stage (100-200THB) to make her know I am interested and will take care of her financially. I would then buy her a lady drink and possibly even tip her a little more as she is sitting with me. If she doesn't go with farang much if at all, she will be really uncomfortable with not being able to speak and communicate in English. I used a translator app on my phone and they responded well to that. Next, I would really try to make the girl as comfortable as possible by complimenting her hair or makeup. Next, in my phone I would type in a very appealing offer to her. If I want to take her LT, I would let her know that I don't expect her to stay til the sun comes up and she can leave at 4-5 if she wants. Again, this is only what I would do to take a girl that is not comfortable with being with a farang. One last note, if you go into one of these bars dressed like a sex tourist in shorts, a t-shirt and flip flops, don't expect one of these girls to talk to you. If you go in dressed really nicely like a businessman that is just looking for some companionship while he is in Bangkok for business, you will greatly improve your odds getting a girls attention. I appreciate there are probably a lot of places like Spasso where the girls love farang, but I seemed to be attracted to the girls that work at bars that are less farang friendly.[/QUOTE]Amusing. Some of us Farangs always operate as nice guys and not stingy (just a few) so we don't all need teaching. Some guys do need some hints though as they wonder why they never get a GFE.

My definition of LT includes morning wakeup sex, not leaving at 4 or 5. Having a girl in bed with me is of little use while I am asleep. So I definitely ask girls what time they have to leave by. The phone translate bit was amusing. It sounds like you are saying its practical, however I have not seen anything that does a good job of translating English to Thai automatically. Google Translate is quite shitty, for example. The Thai sometimes reads like nonsense. Perhaps O.K. for very simple sentences. Fortunately I speak Thai, so its not a problem to me personally. I would be interested to know what translator you use though, in case there is something good I am not aware of. Just an example of Google Translate stupidity. In English you make something a question with a question mark (in addition to things like starting with a verb), In Thai you must add a question word but Google Translate fails to do that, so it looks like a statement with a question mark stuck on the end. I have tried using it in opposite direction with probably worse results. German to English is also not good at all. The meaning gets mashed.

I have also heard of guys refusing to pay. I am sure Japanese would not do that, but its possible with many other origins.

Largely girls trust me and don't even negotiate a price. I don't abuse their trust though. On the other hand some girls say they are a little uncertain about me at first as I don't appear to be smiling much. Perhaps I would if something was funny. Anyway I usually manage to dispel their fears fairly rapidly. However girls do like a guy that is smiling and joking around a lot. So I do make an effort to joke around a lot and making fun of yourself is a good tactic to help girls feel relaxed. Girls like honest compliments too. Bullshit is not necessary.

In the end, if you can't manage to build the chemistry at the bar to the extent that the girl likes you, there is not much point to go with her. I certainly found a fair number of girls at Rainbow 4 to be too business like, but there are some good ones too.

I found a lot of girls at la Belle to be not very good and more suited to Thai and Japanese customers. Many seem to like guys with small dicks that cum very fast. No stamina and start to complain quickly. Don't like DATY, don't do good BJ, don't like kissing etc. Added to that the girls largely look too fake. La Belle is not my favourite place by a long way. Great if you manage to find a super girl there , I have not found many good ones (there are some exceptions). So could have been good fortune to miss out.

[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1507063]Nah, I prefer the company of abnormal women, especially the vaginas of the deaf & dumb. Normal good girls are far too boring, drama queens & can't keep their mouths shut. I'd pay them to leave me alone. For the most part the same applies to the bad girls, too, although about twice a year I like to hang with them for about 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Every so often there's a post that nails it! Fuck, I laughed my nuts near off!

[QUOTE=ATexGuy;1507674]The flight from the United States is really a ***** on your body / sleep, but I just don't know a place in the world where you can find girls like this for the money.[/QUOTE]At prices ranging from almost $200 to $300+, plus bar fine, for long time, I can think of several!

[QUOTE=CyberHard; 1507738]First time in Thailand, first report. After checking into hotel, I walked up the street and was approached by "Pink" from Eden Club. We chatted briefly and told her I would be back. After walking around, I headed back and saw she was still there. We headed up to her room and negotiates began. She started with 3, 000. Based on the research I've been doing, I figured that was too much and countered with 1500. After some discussions, we settled on 2, 500 which I thought was still too much. I figured I would post a report and asked for more sage advice.

Pink is very nice look, hard to tell how tall she is because of high heels. She is petite and all natural. She does have a tramp stamp. I showered up and she started with BBBJ with was nice. Not great but not bad either. She did pay since attention to my perineum and ass which I enjoyed. She even rimmed me! She asked me if I wanted cim and to tell her when I was ready! The pop was great! I was hoping for a 2nd which I thought we settled on. But it wasn't to be. She wanted another 2, 500...[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed at the Eden club, this sounds weird! Or do you mean she was freelancing on the street near the Eden Club?

First off, you don't go up to the room and negotiate with the girls at Eden, the 'menu' price is what you should be paying, and you pay after the deed, to the Management. You may then tip the girls as they kiss you out the door. Also, I always take two girls at Eden as 3somes are their specialisation. The best way to do this is decide anal or not. Once that choice is made, you pick your 1st girl, and then, as many will advise you, let your first pick choose the second girl.

This ensures your get a great working team, and if the second girl is not to your taste, she can work your cock, or whatever, while you DFK and 'bond' with your first choice. If you really can't stand the look of the second girl ask your first pick to choose a second time.

You can also order up uniforms at Eden for no extra charge. Nurse, stockings, etc. You can get a lesbian act as well, or if you are really kinky you can even get the girls to peg you with a strap on, but be sure you are clear about your needs before you go upstairs, a lot of guys are shy about discussing all this in the bar when they are selecting the girls, that's just pathetic, imagine flying all the way from wherever, just to miss out on your wildest dreams because you were too shy to ask for what you want in case someone you'll never see again overhears you! The whole PSE is only limited by your imagination at Eden.

You really did get a little short changed with Pink, because at Eden they take pride in making you cum twice for the 'menu' price, and maybe three times if you can do it within the hour! Trust me, two expert gurls on your shaft if you have never had it is not to be missed!

When I negotiate a freelancer (usually at Biergarten or Thermae) I always settle for "ST.cum twice", and repeat it several times and get a "yes OK" several times, so there is no ambiguity. No girl I have taken home has ever upped the price for the second pop. ST to most freelancers I have been with has been between 2-4 hours, YMMV, if you are clean, not drunk, obnoxious, and treat the girl well, and have a laugh with her, and buy a few drinks at the 7/11 for her to enjoy in the room (breezer, Thai whiskey, whatever) you'll get you're moneys worth!

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1507681]So let me get this right: BJ only with EE? That can't be all that's available. If a punter wanted more all he had to do was order up full service for 1000bt extra on top of the BJ service, right? The web site states "for VIP Service + 1000" and then the VIP room has a bed and soapy tub. So I am assuming that full service is on the menu if you want it.

Personally I'd take L or P over EE any day. EE's tits are a bad joke. (just my opinion) Still if all I wanted was a mouth massage, I guess EE might be ok. Her lips look interesting.[/QUOTE]The price for VIP room used to be 2, 600 for 90 minutes. Since its 600 baht cheaper do you get less time for FS, can someone confirm?

[QUOTE=Phordphan;1507918]At prices ranging from almost $200 to $300+, plus bar fine, for long time, I can think of several![/QUOTE]Me too. I am from TX as well, and you can go to a Dallas AMP for about 140 or take a border run and pay a lot less. This dude is paying a lot for his fun. Up to him I guess.

[QUOTE=Oliver Kitsoff;1507924]Unless things have changed at the Eden club, this sounds weird! Or do you mean she was freelancing on the street near the Eden Club?[/QUOTE]You are right. It is not Eden but Plame Relax Massage which, is right next door. I realized this earlier but could not login to correct the report. I'll probably try Eden tonight.

Thanks for the intel.

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1507818]Only thing is I wish is that I see all these gorgeous girls the guy sees at Baccara and Rainbow 4. Both places are full of unattractive and mediocre at best-kind of girls. No way is Ippuns paying 10k for lt. On their froums they ask prices jsut like the rest of us and the common price quoted is 2.5k st and 5k lt.[/QUOTE]I agree, lots of mediocre ones considering the prices.

What are the jap forums you are talking about?

Are you saying that "ippuns" are paying more, on average, than most of us on ISG?

[QUOTE=Amjeck; 1508148]I agree, lots of mediocre ones considering the prices.

What are the jap forums you are talking about?

Are you saying that "ippuns" are paying more, on average, than most of us on ISG?[/QUOTE]I'm saying the common belief that Ippuns are paying way over the top is just highly questionable. Their deameanor with the girls is not in question. Much more forgiving and not as demanding. Ask the girls-they will say very few troublesome Ippuns around.

Ponder this. Why would any race want to pay twice what others are paying? Makes no sense. Salarymen work hard like everyone else for their yen.