Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=BionicMan;1508665]Do a search here on Eden and you will find tons of reports on what happens at Eden.[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.edenbangkok.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=RockHound74;1508603]I hope this girl was damn good for 5000THB. I have not been to Rainbow4 but if you paid 5000 for her I might have to go check it out next time for some stunners. I usually pay 3000 for LT and get 3 pops (2 through the night and one for a wake up call).[/QUOTE]5000 is normal price! I'd like to see what you get at Rainb 4 for 3,000 baht. Does the girl bring her own bag to wear while having sex?

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508529]Who says Thais have no business sense? DaBed hotel in suk. Soi 4 has lowered its short time rate to 300 baht from 350 baht.[/QUOTE]Its probably purely that a competition ST Hotel is a better standard or better price, so they were forced to lower price or have no customers. There are several ST Hotel options.

Sure GFE is not exactly a skill set. Its just that some girls are willing to have a good time (with the right customer) to some extent as well as make money. Non-GFE girls are more for making it business like or procedural for the customer, which is an anti-skill. Who wants to fuck a dead-fish type? Others know how to move their hips and know how to make their pussy squeeze and massage the dick. That is a skill or ability. They don't have to do it if they don't want to but certainly helps the experience greatly for me and many others. Nice DFK makes me hard quicker than any other way.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1508229]So well stated. I agree 100. If all dudes operated from this premise, things would be better for all. How many times have we all heard, "She's different." Uh, no she is not.[/QUOTE]Very cynical attitude, coming from years of disappointment. Every girl is obviously different. It just depends of the extent. Their are great girls well worth repeating for years (for me) , and there are ordinary girls not worth repeating, and there are shockers that I don't meet too often. Their are working girls looking for a boyfriend to settle down. Its just they do sex for a living until they find a good guy, that can solve their problems.

Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508407]Come on guys-stop saying you and girl really got along but you won't be doing her again. One time and finish means session wasn't that hot! You guys are not the lovers you think you are. LOL.[/QUOTE]What is your point? Are you actually saying anything here? Is up to every guy whether they like repeating or want to repeat.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1508833]Very cynical attitude, coming from years of disappointment. Every girl is obviously different. It just depends of the extent. Their are great girls well worth repeating for years (for me) , and there are ordinary girls not worth repeating, and there are shockers that I don't meet too often. Their are working girls looking for a boyfriend to settle down. Its just they do sex for a living until they find a good guy, that can solve their problems.

Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.[/QUOTE]Cynical? No realistic. Coming from years of living here and years of seeing dude's attempts at relationships with working girls.

Years of disappointment? Had a blast in the past. Still have some fun at times.

"Severe urgent economic problems" are usually the result of bad decisions. No one is "forced" into the business unless they are sold, which is a crime. Yes, I have met girls who have a good work ethic, but they are few and far between. Working in the sex industry is the easy way out. Always has been. They have choices. More and more each day. That is why the quality of gal has gone down so much.

Problem is exactly what you stated above, a guy that can solve their problems. A guy can't solve her problems. He can be bled dry by a parasitic family in the blink of an eye. He can be left high and dry when she finds a "gooder guy."

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508407]Come on guys-stop saying you and girl really got along but you won't be doing her again. One time and finish means session wasn't that hot! You guys are not the lovers you think you are. LOL.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I'm normally a "one and done" guy, but it doesn't mean that I didn't get along with the girl or that I didn't find her attractive or good in bed. In Bangkok (or any mongering destination) , I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife. I'm on a vacation and an adventure so I want to sample as many girls as possible. If the girl was incredibly "hot" and I hadn't had any luck with any other girl, I might go back for round two; but I'd still be on the hunt for another "hot" girl. Life is too short and there are just too many "hot" girls to sample.

[QUOTE=CheeChee889;1508169]Ponder this. Why would any race want to pay twice what others are paying? Makes no sense. Salarymen work hard like everyone else for their yen.[/QUOTE]Maybe that 'race' lives in a country where getting a similar service is freakingly expensive.

Some of the Japanese tourists will pay 50-60k yen (15-20k Baht) for 1 hour back in Tokyo, without blinking an eye.

Also, in Japan people just don't negotiate the price.

Sometimes I chat with Japanese clients at the bar and their pov is that places such as Baccara and Rainbow 4 are paradise compared to what they get in Japan.

I believe that many regulars to the BKK scene have noted that in previous posts. So I am probably just repeating what someone else said before. Sorry, it's just the 'race' thing that tipped me off.

[QUOTE=Yujin;1508886]I disagree. I'm normally a "one and done" guy, but it doesn't mean that I didn't get along with the girl or that I didn't find her attractive or good in bed. In Bangkok (or any mongering destination) , I'm not looking for a girlfriend or a wife. I'm on a vacation and an adventure so I want to sample as many girls as possible. If the girl was incredibly "hot" and I hadn't had any luck with any other girl, I might go back for round two; but I'd still be on the hunt for another "hot" girl. Life is too short and there are just too many "hot" girls to sample.[/QUOTE]I am with you there. Repeat? Maybe, but after some times passes, like a few months. I am not on vacation, but still want new all the time. Problem is it is getting harder and harder to find lookers that perform at the drop of a hat.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1508833]Their are some lovely girls, who may not have special skills, that are forced into the business from severe urgent economic problems. Their are girls that have a work ethic that results in very good honest service for the money. Keep an open mind. The character of working girls varies tremendously. Sure, don't trust them too easily.[/QUOTE]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]Interesting point!

From my experience though it's not about the 'quality' (for lack of a better word) of a monger, it's the lack of insanity of said monger.

I don't speak Thai (and have no interest in learning) so it's a little difficult to for me to really get into a Thai girls head in a one on one situation (and I never repeat so my access to her little brain is limited) but often when I take 2 girls LT, especially during daylight, and in the last few hours, worn down from booze, sex and other fun things, when I know I'm spent, getting bored and am sending them home in a couple of hours I'll get them to talk about their experiences.

And with 2 girls, each experience sparks one from the other so it's less scripted and more sincere.

Rarely do they speak about good times and good guys. They always, in my experience, focus on the bad times either for them or someone they know. And some of the stories are truly ugly (and I'm no pollyanna) They all have some story where they got thrown a really big tip or they see a guy repeatedly who treats them well, but for the 'one offs' it's mostly its one horror story after another.

Now, I do not recommend this topic at all because it is a real buzz kill and it's hard to bring the conversation back around to ribbons and bows and my dick in their mouths when they get all fired up by bad experiences so that why I have only brought it up towards the end of a session.

I think that after just a little while of hooking, the 'fun' wears off and they are mostly in 'damage control' mode either consciously or subconsciously, which for a Thai lady is basically getting in and out safely and with the money she was promised.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]We talk about what the girls are like and whether they are different or not. Perhaps it's just as valid to discuss the guys and what we are like. Are we all the same, no of course not. Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]I think fair pay and good manners are the most important. I doubt bfe and pse even is a blip on their list of priorities. I doubt on the bus ride back from issan girls are thinking of a senoir citizen giving them multiple orgasms.

Further. If ippuns were paying way over the top, the Rainbow stages would be full of hot girls trying to get a piece of the action. High season and just ok lookers and many not ok lookers. Rainbow 1 has a certifiable 8 in face and body quality-about as good as you going to get in an agogo. Very friendly too.

I saw even a Jap say girls run out on them early on their agreed on long times too.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1506115]Yep, get a membership.[/QUOTE]Done and done.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;1508944]Personally I wouldn't mind reading a forum where the girls discussed the Johns, the sessions they have and what makes up a great experience for them. I could be a mile off the mark but my guess would be in order of priority, generosity, hygiene, good manners and a sense of humor and no doubt if he looks half way decent while not that important definitely a bonus. Despite what we might like to think the BFE (boyfriend) and PSE is of minor importance to them.[/QUOTE]Manners? Are you forgetting that most of these hookers are back-woods country bumpkins who would not know good manners if it socked them in the face? And sense of humor? It is extremely difficult for humor to cross cultures that share the same language. The hope must really be thin for totally different cultures with totally different languages. Pay the money and ride the rides and stop trying to make friends with the carneys. Besides, why the heck would you care what a hooker thinks? Do you also care what the person at McDonald's thinks when you tell them you don't want onions on your burger? They aren't doing you any favors; you are paying for a service. When you finish with her, her mind is on to finding the next customer, not rating her experience with the previous 30.

arriving back home early tuesday after a rather unusual mongerexperience starting with x mas giftshopping in nyc, meeting my special thaigirl in lax ending up as usual in bkk.

the nyc part was with a close friend from back home and nothing extraordinary about this. during my stay here i recieved information from my special thaigirl she was actually in los angeles for business. me so lucky. beeing weakned and aroused at the same time due to this info i left all my newly bought gifts with my wingman back in nyc and informed him why (he is a very close friend so he was ofcourse supportive). i jumped on a plane and arrived into lax a few hours later last sunday. spending a couple of days with ms sexy are allways nice and we barly left our santa monica hotel (loews is a very nice place by the way). as we speak of without stillettos atleast 170cm well off, pale and very sexy thai beauty it was all worth changing my travel initiery a tad (supposed to be a roundtrip to ewr only). after 3 days inside our suite (almost non stop) i was feeling drenched and my sperm was not white anymore and looked more like ky. i don't know the biology behind it but this girl can make me cum way passed my usual number in one day which normaly would be a maximum of 5 to 6 times incl change of girl at one point during the day.

while checking out from hotel i was once again changing my mind and quickly decided to join ms sexy on her late eve cathay pacific flight to bkk (via hkg) if seats available. i did myself have a late eve virgin atlantic flight the oposite direction, all well coordinated. she checked with cathay and she got me a seat next to her. ofcourse the virgin atlantic driver showed up at loews before i managed to cancel my bookings but he was a good sport, cancelled my bookings and drove us to lax (ofcourse he got generously tipped).

luckely the forward cabin was almost empty except from old fart mr grumpy occupying the 1 left suite. i guess he was a tad jelous as he obviously understood we knew eachother. after eating and getting into our handed out night costumes it was time for some fumbling and she joined me in my suite. sadly cathay does not (like emirates a380) have closed suites as we were in deep need of one. beeing constantly disturbed by a to attentive cabincrew (or curious i don't know) made me get only half a stiffy under the blancet so my mile high dream ended with a modest attempt. i certainly don't know if she jumping (slow) up and down with my slack willy inside her a 3/4 times counts? i guess also almost all my bodyparts were hurtful especialy stumach, hips and shaft / testikles did also played a big role here. ms thai was very wet though so i did fingerplay her until she was dripping making it look like i did [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] my pyjo. well well i tried and did fail. mr grumpy did give me the evil eye as he walked passed a couple of times.

finaly after a good 20 hours (incl stop in hkg) we arrived into bkk. as this for the time beeing is her homeground we kissed and said our good byes inside the cabin and disembarked the plane seperatly. leaving lax late wednesday eve i was sure i was arriving on thursday but it proved to allready be friday. i guess i should start to pay more attention and not living in a fog of hornyness.

taxied to siam kempinski hotel, checked in and met up with my friend (he resides in this luxury environment the lucky bastard). we hit the lobby bar for a few cold ones and planned the eve and decided we would hit one or several g-clubs as a substitute to barhopping. having resided in bkk for quite a while now my friend starts to know his way around the "must know" areas. luckely he is like me and don't enjoy streetwalkers, gogo's, mp's, barfines, beerbars so we are well adjusted into the regular girls and freelance scene. dealing with fl's we run a strict no price discussion program and girls mentioning money are ditched as it takes away the illusion of certain normality. that beeing said most of the girls dealing with me, if they want it or not, will be compensated from guilt. i find this works the best for me and motivation to perform for a fl are on the high side when she doesn't know anything about size of compensation (normaly these days it runs from 3 to 5k bhats viewed upon place and quality of the fl). i put my pride into chemistry building and a good screening process. if laughs, communication, smiles, kissing and fumbling eachothers bodies are on the high side out in the club things will hardly go wrong when it is time for processing the sex part. then the fl's usualy run a non limitation program on me and mostly stay to long time.

we hit g clubs named pegasus and the pimp. the pegasus was to stiff to my liking and looked very muched like a royal castle both outside and inside. a place quite on the hi so side and the girls were very beautiful. my friend have treated himself with a membership of the polite price 50k one year incl 10 grey goose 1l vodkas and vip access (extras free). we shipped a few drinks and yougurt and nadia joined in. i must say they have funny names in los especially yougurt. we finished a few drinks, tipped the girls and mamasan (1k each) and headed for the pimp.

the pimp in pratha uthid road was a very cool place. more like a combination of nightclub, strip joint, bar areas and nice seatings. it proved my friend also bought himself a membership here as well worth of 30k bahts (incl btls of tequila and grey goose). the girls are easygoing and fun and many of them were to my liking. especially one named fiat (another very fun name for a girl). some of her friends joined her and we were suddenly 4 girls and 2 guys boozing / fooling around. pricestructurewice don't visit g-clubs if you are cheap charlie. we spend probably on the high side so it is ofcourse possible to have simular fun for lower cost. the total bill when night ended was above 30k i was told and then my friend allready paid for the drinks. what will add up your bill on the high side are drinks for the ladies (400 or 500bht for each drink). the fun part is that even if you have prepaid bottles you are supposed to pay the girls even if they drink from your bottle. if a girl will come with you or not is totaly up to her and no one else. but inside pimp and pegasus (my friend told me) there are ofcourse girls who are willing to do this if they like you.

my impression talking to fiat and others was that most of them (atleast the 4 we talked to) were uni students, mid twenties and quite on the bright side. i must say these girls in general runs on a higher level than the gogo girls and the normal fl girl (my impression from looking around at the girls). inside the club their job is ofcourse to squeeze as much money out of customers as they can and fiat told on a busy night she could easily make 5 to 6k (her comission and i have no reason to not believe her). she was running a master in international politics and even if i started to become shitfaced no wonder she knew quite a lot (even our new prime ministers name). she asked her manager if she was allowed to finish early so around 1am we headed home to my hotel my friend left behind (he could not care less). i think pimp closes at around 2am. very cool place and much more casual than pegasus.

fiat was much better than the car after my impression and wow what a body. she was a tad shorter than ms los angeles but not by much (160 to 165cm) , nice firm tetas and an arrow of hair directing towards her clit area. very slim vaist and nice hips. her ass was as thight as they come. she was sucking my tounge and bit it. we did go on and off with sessions, had a room serviced red curry break, and back to work. she enjoyed me playing her ass with fingers and tounge. i used herpussyjuice as lube for some serious ass action but sadly while it went inside it was to hurtful for her so pulled out continuing doing her pussy. i managed to get her to leave kempinski around 4 pm with 4k unknowingly stucked into her purse. i will maby put her on my must repeat list.

when i woke up around 7pm i did surprise my friend in his apartment with 2 stunners from yesterdays pimp. i was stealing a whiskey from his minibar and watched them doing eachother. they did not leave until 9pm.

we arrived grease in suk soi49. very nice place with middle to hi so crowd and easygoing crowd. not a place for mongering alone as most girls come in groups but ofcourse if you are extremely extroverted and sociable you may have success. i find it more easy to have my wingman and soon after buying a couple of bottles we invited a couple of stunners eyeballing us over to our table. grease comes in a 4 fl package with different themes according to the floor. we sat outside area. the girls introduced themself as raja and nitcha. they were working colleauges (all info according to themself). told to be 30 but looked maby early 20. we drank, had fun, did some moonwalking and left for home with eachothers girl. made a short stop in mixx as it is along the way and the girls wanted to dance and it is open late. after shipping a few arrived back to my suite. we continued party (all 4) in my suite and it ended in sex activities both up and downstairs. nitcha was nice enough but my recent games have been rather on the very beautiful side. she was maby only 160cm or so but was a sexual monster (positive meaning). i did no work as she took care of that. she was as usual very gfe in combi of pse and did have no limitation. i asked for giving her a rep002 but luckely i put it in a humoristic manner so we just laughed it away when she declined (if she only knew). compensated her 3k when she left in the evening.

sunday met up with a cabincrewgirl i did make out with a couple of months ago. this time after dining at mezzaluna (lebua) we headed back to her apartment and developed the kissingprogram intofucking. nothing special as she most likely is in it with me for relationship purposes which i am not interested in as i am allready taken. she knows my wingman so i have to put it nicely to her when i return in january as i don't want to make him have hard time and beeing excluded from his exclusively group of cabincrewgirls.

now arrived back to a barking gf. omg.