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[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2340830]Oase like many other clubs has to attract new talents which seems quite difficult since end of 2017.[/QUOTE]Your own fault guys with this wish for 50 euro sessions. Just pay worldwide competetive P6 prices und the top class new (and old) talents will come back to German FKK clubs. And this problem hasn't started 2017, it has already started around since 2012.
I completely agree with Craoiva. I never fail to have at least a couple of excellent sessions whenever I go to any of the German FKK clubs. I think the problem is people still looking to have GFE sex with top looking 10's with BBBJ, DFK and many positions for just 50 euros in 2019!!
The last time I was at Oase, I had an awesome time (see my reports on here). Reverse the situation: if you were a 20-something girl from Romanian would you want to do all that with some unknown, middle aged dude, for just 50 euros or with the guy who is willing to give you 150 euros for an hour?
That's why it is inevitable that either the prices will eventually go up to Globe levels (for the same level of service you almost have to pay that anyway now); sure the occasional new girl who has just started might do it for 50 in her first few days but she will soon learn.
It is the only industry where people still expect to pay 2006 prices in 2019 and then complain when they don't get it or get crappy service!
I lived in Germany for a very long time and Germans are culturally very careful with spending money so if elderly Germans are complaining it doesn't surprise me but I think it is an unfair complaint.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346421]Most of the Oase girls are just cheating, the management including maoro are unable to take any smallest control of the situation, very few senior German monger are anymore going to this club including me.[/QUOTE]Palace has improved were as Oase has gone down hill I find the reception and bar tendor also not very pleasing. The management need a look. Shuttle service is good.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2346394]............. If one of them starts crazy talk once we enter the room, then I will simply leave the room. I've only left the room maybe 2-3 times like that in all my visits...........[/QUOTE]You seem to date only good girls at Oase because you have not encountered a girl who when she starts crazy talk in the room and you leave the room the girl demands her EUR 50.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2346519]Your own fault guys with this wish for 50 euro sessions. Just pay worldwide competetive P6 prices und the top class new (and old) talents will come back to german FKK clubs. And this problem hasn't started 2017, it has already started around since 2012.[/QUOTE]I had many great EUR 50 sessions at Sharks. However, I will consider your advice to pay EUR 200 - 300 for sessions if I do go to Oase. These are indeed competitive prices compared to Switzerland, Dubai and Macau.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2346725]I had many great EUR 50 sessions at Sharks. [/QUOTE]Wish your fun with your pink sheets.
[QUOTE=Akibono;2339546]Even at IRS best the old Atlantis was head and shoulders above it.[/QUOTE]I was at Atlantis in its heyday, during the Frankfurt book fair. There must have been 150 women there, and I fucked what was probably the most beautiful girl I ever fucked in my life. Unforgettable.
But Oase and World have in the past been spectacular. If Oase has gone downhill, that's the circle of life.
These days, I prefer SE Asia. In Vietnam, I hooked up with an early 20's stunner for $12 at a hot toc (barbershop). When I left, a nearby hot toc tout says, "Come here next time, I give you locals rate. $6!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2346722]You seem to date only good girls at Oase because you have not encountered a girl who when she starts crazy talk in the room and you leave the room the girl demands her EUR 50.[/QUOTE]Merely entering a room does not incur a fee if no services are rendered. That is, if you are only in the room 2-3 minutes and leave without any services rendered, then no fee is due.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2346519]Your own fault guys with this wish for 50 euro sessions. Just pay worldwide competetive P6 prices und the top class new (and old) talents will come back to german FKK clubs. And this problem hasn't started 2017, it has already started around since 2012.[/QUOTE]Probably you are right but I will only pay 50 for 30 minutes if the chemistry with the girl is good I can stay hours with her if not I will leave after few minutes, I am in the age where I am able to control my testosterone and I am extremely selective, I don t need to fuck a veteran prostitute, with sili, Botox, hair extension. 70% of the time I will leave the FKK without any session.
I have not found that in FKKs generally it is necessary to pay more than 50 euros per half hour to get good service from a beautiful girl. It may though well be true of Oase to a significant degree.
I am wondering why some guys are so enthusiastic for the rates to be increased. Maybe a couple of members have relationships with girls which means their (guys') income will increase as a result.
This is a very selfish behavior because honestly if the prices raise to 100/30 min, I won't come in Germany anymore.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2346856]Merely entering a room does not incur a fee if no services are rendered. That is, if you are only in the room 2-3 minutes and leave without any services rendered, then no fee is due.[/QUOTE]Permit me a slight rewording of your post. "Merely entering a room is not supposed to incur a fee if no services are rendered. That is, if you are only in the room 2-3 minutes and leave without any services rendered, then no fee is supposed to be paid". Do not forget that some girls are there to try to get as much money for as little output as possible.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2347006]I have not found that in FKKs generally it is necessary to pay more than 50 euros per half hour to get good service from a beautiful girl. It may though well be true of Oase to a significant degree.
I am wondering why some guys are so enthusiastic for the rates to be increased. Maybe a couple of members have relationships with girls which means their (guys') income will increase as a result.[/QUOTE]While my name says otherwise, I like to think all of us writing here are doing honestly and of our own volition and expressing true feelings. When we begin to say some commenters are motivated by commercial interests, or working for girls and clubs, first it is hard to prove such charges and the recriminations can become bidirectional and irresponsible and definitely not constructive. For instance, Craiova suggested that higher payments to girls may lead to better services in this thread and I know his name may imply he is of a Romanian origin but he may very well be a gentleman from US or France or Germany and his views are his views. Not much should be read between the lines other than what he stated in plain English. He is hardly the only one. I remember the gentleman named Akebono also said he likes to pay up for good services and again rather than guessing national origins from names or imputing motives, I like to think these are gentlemen of means and good tastes who like to spend more for good stuff. We have been seeing discussions on merits of Swiss v German clubs and quite a few suggested they prefer to pay up the significantly higher prices in SW and obtain better services from prettier girls-- again, I think the best thing to do is read these comments as is rather than impute that they have some hidden monetary orncommercial motive for writing what they did.
Speaking for myself, I have no interest in SW and have tried out various clubs in DE and of late preferring the mega clubs. I take a mix of 50 E and 100 E and higher amount sessions and I have never ever paid any extra money for BBBJ or kissing or 100 E for 30 min etc. That is just me.
[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2346946]Probably you are right but I will only pay 50 for 30 minutes if the chemistry with the girl is good I can stay hours with her if not I will leave after few minutes, I am in the age where I am able to control my testosterone and I am extremely selective, I don t need to fuck a veteran prostitute, with sili, Botox, hair extension. 70% of the time I will leave the FKK without any session.[/QUOTE]Quite difficult for me to find attractive girls in FKK land, this since I started on end of 2012, even sometimes at Globe, but I found exceptional girls, mostly Romanians, who could compete with my best Russian escorts, and still not long ago, so as long I think I can find, I will keep on driving so many kilometers, but if I think no more chic beauty for me in FKK land, then I will stay with my Russian escorts in Paris. As I say to my only friend in FKK, perfect for me would be to be find a chic, GFE, sophisticated beauty and only her for me, wishing she will not change because of money, and with Kate of course. My best FKK girls never spoke about money, they preferred I returned on next week end. One tried so much to keep me for weekly regular, but her image changed too much in my eyes and mind, as she asked: you don't like me anymore? When I drove so much for her.
[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2347010] honestly if the prices raise to 100/30 min, I won't come in Germany anymore.[/QUOTE]If I happened to be in Darmstadt or Frankfurt on business with plane tickets and hotel already paid by my company, I will probably go to the clubs even if the price was raised to 100 for 30.
However, the number of my sessions will be less -- significantly fewer. Also, I will not be a sex tourist visiting DE multiple times a year for no other reason than sex clubs as I have been doing for a number of years now.
But this is all moot. I don't think there is any proposal to officially raise the prices suddenly by 100%. I am very doubtful that club owners will change prices so dramatically as in any market the risk of customer defections to such a price increase is very high. Specifically in Germany, they have a flourishing red light district and other prostitution avenues and most of locals will likely go to such places if prices went up 100%.