FKK Oase - Burgholzhausen

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2347101]While my name says otherwise, I like to think all of us writing here are doing honestly and of our own volition and expressing true feelings. When we begin to say some commenters are motivated by commercial interests, or working for girls and clubs, first it is hard to prove such charges and the recriminations can become bidirectional and irresponsible and definitely not constructive. For instance, Craiova suggested that higher payments to girls may lead to better services in this thread and I know his name may imply he is of a Romanian origin but he may very well be a gentleman from US or France or Germany and his views are his views. Not much should be read between the lines other than what he stated in plain English. He is hardly the only one. I remember the gentleman named Akebono also said he likes to pay up for good services and again rather than guessing national origins from names or imputing motives, I like to think these are gentlemen of means and good tastes who like to spend more for good stuff. We have been seeing discussions on merits of Swiss v German clubs and quite a few suggested they prefer to pay up the significantly higher prices in SW and obtain better services from prettier girls-- again, I think the best thing to do is read these comments as is rather than impute that they have some hidden monetary orncommercial motive for writing what they did..[/QUOTE]Not Romanian, local who pay for extra. I'm not a 50 € guy, but I don't pay for extra, I prefer when girls don't ask me to pay extra, I like when girls offer me time or services. My standard is 1 hour for 80/100, I even got few 40/45 mn for 50 and my 2 girls didn't ask me for more than 40, but I decided it was more fair to give them 50.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2347143]If I happened to be in Darmstadt or Frankfurt on business with plane tickets and hotel already paid by my company, I will probably go to the clubs even if the price was raised to 100 for 30.

However, the number of my sessions will be less -- significantly fewer. Also, I will not be a sex tourist visiting DE multiple times a year for no other reason than sex clubs as I have been doing for a number of years now.

But this is all moot. I don't think there is any proposal to officially raise the prices suddenly by 100%. I am very doubtful that club owners will change prices so dramatically as in any market the risk of customer defections to such a price increase is very high. Specifically in Germany, they have a flourishing red light district and other prostitution avenues and most of locals will likely go to such places if prices went up 100%.[/QUOTE]Also some cheap, risky sex for 30.

Somewhat belated report. Had 3 days lined up in Frankfurt (with Barcelona in between). My last trip was 2 days and gave Oase a skip so decided to make it my first port of call. It was a little chilly so didn't feel like a spring / summer sojourn at all. Was also Orthodox Easter. Had read it would result in a reduced line up but it was worse than I thought and it was depleted. Must have been maximum of 30 girls and general quality was not that great.

Anna / Emmy:- Took two of the more attractive girls as a starter after they seduced me in the kino section. They wanted extra for owo but they agreed to my suggestion for one hour incorporating owo for E100 apiece.

Anna is young, slim and natural looking with long brownish hair. On closer inspection not as good looking as she first appears and she was a bit of a dead fish in the room but her youth will keep her busy.

Emmy is also early 20's, blondish, slim and good knockers as far as fakes go. Opposite to Anna as she looks better close up and is a far better performer with a pleasant personality. She also showed a keen interest in plying her trade in Dubai so gave her the lowdown.

The session was fairly lacklustre and only partly down to me being a bit jaded and under the weather. It largely consisted of them taking turns to suck me off. Anna was generally mediocre and disinterested whereas Emmy was more lively. I took ages getting going but they eventually got me off.

Sonia:- One woman who caught my eye was a sultry and friendly looking MILF. Older than what I normally go for but there wasn't much in the way of competition.

A tall porcelain brunette introduced herself to me like I was an old friend and it turns out it was Bulgarian Monika who I'd been worth twice before. In fairness she has a different look but I did recall that her blowjobs skills were magnificent. Very much pornstar style and she can extract juice from the future. Earmarked her for my second and final shot (I usually have three but couldn't manage more than 2 on this trip which hopefully was a blip rather than evidence of irreversible decline) and possibly with one of her friends who I quite liked but she was engrossed with a Korean guy when I was ready so decided to take the sultry MILF.

Sonia claims to be off Lebanese origin and may well be. Decent body. Medium sized with some nice curves and a decent sized rack. Had her for an hour and she was fantastic. Real combination of GFE and pse, good DFK, chewed on her tits for ages, good foreplay before she gave a memorable blowie starting slow but increasing speed and suction, ball licking, told her to stop and feasted on her pussy which she really enjoyed, back to owo and then finished off fucking her in doggy. Suffice to say I highly recommend her and hope she's around next time I'm in town. E150.

A good finish to the day but overall Oase was disappointing. Of the 3 clubs I visit, it has consistently been below the level of Sharks and Palace the past two years in terms of quality of girls and service which is a shame as otherwise it's my favourite club in terms of outlay especially on a nice summer day.

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347238]Had her for an hour and she was fantastic. E150.
[/QUOTE]Nice report but wondered why you paid E150 for only an hour with (from your report) no extras?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2347100]Permit me a slight rewording of your post. "Merely entering a room is not supposed to incur a fee if no services are rendered. That is, if you are only in the room 2-3 minutes and leave without any services rendered, then no fee is supposed to be paid". Do not forget that some girls are there to try to get as much money for as little output as possible.[/QUOTE]No rewording is necessary. The original statement remains true that no fee is due in such circumstances. Just because a girl asks for money does not mean you have to give it to her. If a girl walks up to you and says, you looked at my left boob, now you must pay me 1,000 Euros, this does not mean you have to pay. The big man with no neck will not come down from upstairs and throw you out of the club in this situation if you do not pay, so you do not have to pay. Simple as that.

No rewording is required here to add the words "supposed to" -- No fee is due in such circumstance. Period. If you voluntary pay a girl in such a situation, that is more properly called a "gift. ".

[QUOTE=Tommylove;2346794]I was at Atlantis in its heyday, during the Frankfurt book fair. There must have been 150 women there, and I fucked what was probably the most beautiful girl I ever fucked in my life. Unforgettable.

But Oase and World have in the past been spectacular. If Oase has gone downhill, that's the circle of life.

These days, I prefer SE Asia. In Vietnam, I hooked up with an early 20's stunner for $12 at a hot toc (barbershop). When I left, a nearby hot toc tout says, "Come here next time, I give you locals rate. $6![/QUOTE]TommyLove,

You said that you fucked the hottest girl in your life during the "heyday of Atlantis". What year was that specifically? Just wondering. Why do you think Atlantis (or FKK's generally) have been going down hill?

[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2347305]No rewording is necessary. The original statement remains true that no fee is due in such circumstances. Just because a girl asks for money does not mean you have to give it to her. If a girl walks up to you and says, you looked at my left boob, now you must pay me 1,000 Euros, this does not mean you have to pay. The big man with no neck will not come down from upstairs and throw you out of the club in this situation if you do not pay, so you do not have to pay. Simple as that.

No rewording is required here to add the words "supposed to" -- No fee is due in such circumstance. Period. If you voluntary pay a girl in such a situation, that is more properly called a "gift. ".[/QUOTE]Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.

[QUOTE=PayForIt;2347271]Nice report but wondered why you paid E150 for only an hour with (from your report) no extras?[/QUOTE]In a moment of weakness I fell for her "GFE Special". It was going well anyway from the outset but she said she'd give me a 5 minute sample and if I liked it she'd carry on like that for the rest of the session for an extra E50. It's hard to resist when your balls are being licked!

[QUOTE=BeWilder;2347607]In a moment of weakness I fell for her "GFE Special". It was going well anyway from the outset but she said she'd give me a 5 minute sample and if I liked it she'd carry on like that for the rest of the session for an extra E50. It's hard to resist when your balls are being licked![/QUOTE]I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2347630]I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.[/QUOTE]In my experience, you are best to negotiate up front for exactly what you want. If you want to kiss with tongue, say so. If you want anal, say so. If you want to be fist while an opera plays in the background, say so. They may say no, they may want too much money, but you will not embarrass these girls by being direct.

A blanket term like "GFE" is subject to too much room interpretation, in my opinion.

Does the German- born Iraqi girl Johana (Joanna) from, I think, Cologne, still work at Oase?

[QUOTE=Turgid;2347532]Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.[/QUOTE]I do not try to make a habit out of it. But I have walked out of the room after 2-3 minutes in the room more times than I count. I have done at Sharks, where the WG is chasing me down the stairs. Regulars noticed it, and remarked about it afterwards, joking that I was a troublemaker.

You are correct that is her word against the customers. But if she is having these type of "her word against the customer's word" disputes twenty times a week, reception is going to start to suspect something. Therefore she is going to save her complaints for those instances when a customer really does something egregious. The inverse is also true. If reception recognizes you as a customer that has a money dispute every third visit, you lose credibility.

At times clubs like Sharks have had 200+ WGs in their lineup. Club management can and will give WGs their walking papers. They simply select from the 50 so WGs that they turned away that week. Exception may be someone like Mandy or Evita who is less replaceable (but I suspect these two superstars rarely have issues with customers). Those two have legions of paying male customers who will take their money elsewhere and Sharks management knows that.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2347532]Its her word against yours and she has a pussy that you don't which is more valuable to management.[/QUOTE]I am quite familiar with the "dispute resolution procedures" at Oase available to perceived aggrieved parties, hence my confidence in my prior statements of when a fee is not due. If you are nevertheless inclined to make voluntary donations to girls when a fee would not otherwise be warranted, more power to you sir. I wish you the best of luck and happy times in the club.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2347630]I'll soon be making my first FKK visits in Frankfurt so have been reading all the related forums. I see the "GFE" term often mentioned which brings up some questions. Is this a known and common term with the girls in FKKs? I've only ever heard the term used between guys to describe the level of service provided. Do some girls specifically provide a choice of either "standard" service or "GFE" service for different prices? Any particular reason all the prices I see discussed are in 50 euro increments? (50 or 100 or 150 or 200) Wouldn't most girls rather take 80 euros for a 30 minute GFE session than 50 for a standard session? TIA.[/QUOTE]Hey Lucky Nuts.

Although it has been a couple of years since I visited Oase, many girls will try to extract 100 Euros for 30 minutes for what they call GFE. Not every girl in the club will try this tactic on you, but don't let the girl dictate the terms either. Be firm in your negotiations and don't be afraid to say NO! If you do agree to 100 Euros for 30 minutes of GFE, you are not guaranteed GFE in the room. As they say, YMMV. Instead, I would take a girl for the standard 50 E / 30 minutes and see how she behaves in bed. If you like her, tell her that you will extend to an hour. If by the end of the 30 minutes you do not feel the right chemistry, just cut your losses and move on. Before you even take a girl to the room, interview many girls. You will meet plenty of good girls. Perhaps throw in the promise of CIM, worth +50 Euros to her or ANAL +100 Euros to her. That does not guarantee you good service either. My game plan might be outdated in this club, but I would like the other senior members to weigh in on this and give you some sound advice. Remember, you are the boss! Good luck in your hunt.

FiddyCent.

[QUOTE=FiddyCent;2347729]Hey Lucky Nuts.

Although it has been a couple of years since I visited Oase, many girls will try to extract 100 Euros for 30 minutes for what they call GFE. Not every girl in the club will try this tactic on you, but don't let the girl dictate the terms either. Be firm in your negotiations and don't be afraid to say NO! If you do agree to 100 Euros for 30 minutes of GFE, you are not guaranteed GFE in the room. As they say, YMMV. Instead, I would take a girl for the standard 50 E / 30 minutes and see how she behaves in bed. If you like her, tell her that you will extend to an hour. If by the end of the 30 minutes you do not feel the right chemistry, just cut your losses and move on. Before you even take a girl to the room, interview many girls. You will meet plenty of good girls. Perhaps throw in the promise of CIM, worth +50 Euros to her or ANAL +100 Euros to her. That does not guarantee you good service either. My game plan might be outdated in this club, but I would like the other senior members to weigh in on this and give you some sound advice. Remember, you are the boss! Good luck in your hunt.

FiddyCent.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply Fiddy and the sage advice. No girl is going to sell me 30 minutes for 100 euros unless she's gorgeous and sucks my bare dick on the way into the room LOL. Think I'll tell the hottest chicas I'll pay 150 for an hour if she can keep me in there that long. If not it's 50 for thirty minutes and we are done.