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[QUOTE=BrainDrain;2280100]Can I suggest that SOP be that while you are in Ph you maintain a separate FB and number.

I had a similar scam last year and I had to just walk away from my fake wechat account (of 4 years). Had she been involved in my real FB account that would be messy.

FB block is not very useful. Her friend can just search you. Can then easily check who like you profile pic and then friend you friends. Easy to send your friends a few bad messages that way, sure to get your attention.

Take care.[/QUOTE]BrainDrain, you got to give me more credit than that!

My FB account is set up so that nobody can search for me. Also, my friends cannot see who my friends are. I few years has taught me the basics of surviving FB in the Phils. When they ask why, I just say it is because I am a businessman and I don't want my info public. They accept that.

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2279742]Hey Turdy,

Don't hold you breath on these hot Latin chicas. Over the last 6 months I have spent a total of 3 months in Mexico, Peru, Ecuador and Panama. The only hot chicks you are likely to see are in beauty contests, porn sites and TV shows. Peru and Ecuador in particular are home to some of the fattest female populations I have seen in any country in the world. In 3 weeks in Peru I saw less really stunning women than the fingers on my hand. I am of course talking about the general population here, not *****houses but even they don't have a great many lookers. If you are looking to escape the Jolibee bodies, think again.

Good luck,

SE.[/QUOTE]You're right about Mexico, been all over, definite obesity problem there. I was not thinking about the other countries you mentioned. There are maps online that show obesity rates by country and BMI stats. I was thinking about Colombia.

But generally Latin chicks have a problem with weight. However some countries, like Colombia, there is a heavy emphasis on female appearance even at older ages and many go for plastic surgery as well. From a re-read of my post that you've replied to, you will see that my main complaint here is that Asian women do not have tits, or the ones they have are more like large pimples in size. Not my preference. A few extra pounds are OK with me, if they have nice big, firm tits and not a stretched out stomach or fat a*. But thanks for your report on those other countries, duly noted and catalogued.

I recently spent two weeks in Tagaytay called Zxeekers Lucky Day Spa. I was intrigued at the outside advertising and the fact that it is open 24 hours, a business model that would indicate extras. I saw they had a one our full body massage for 250 Pesos (approximately 5 dollars) between 8 am and 4 pm. I was there at 2 pem, and went in and asked for the hour. She took me to a small room in back of the lobby and said it was 500 pesos. (Maybe the Americano price? She took me into a room that had a small sitting room and a room with a bed. I saw good signs, robes, and a photo of a guy and girl kissing on the wall in the room with the bed. The woman that took me back asked me if I wanted a male or female and I chose male. She told me to get undressed except for my underwear and lay on the bed. I did as I was told and waited a few min and in comes my masseuse. The room was very dark and she told me to lay the other way on the bed and she then started the massage. Her dress was not encouraging as she was wearing what looked like a pair of pants and matching top that looked like flannel. She was pleasant enough but when I tried to brush my hand against her she would re-position it. It was an OK massage but totally legit. They had a sauna in a room off the sitting room so maybe extras are to be had. In any case, it was only out $10 US for the hour and I did get a reasonably good massage. I would think it odd to be open in the middle of the night for legit massages but who knows.

I did see several other massage places as I traveled about the city and the prices are a real bargain. I saw them as low as $200 pesos for an hour. $4 US.

On another popular travel forum an Aussie punter wrote in late 2018 the following about sabang.

"If you are a single Caucasian tourist interested in drinking in bars where there are bar girls you can forget about visiting Sabang's bars. They are completed Korean-ised now. Basically 10 minutes after opening the bars are 'empty'. No girls, no customers, no atmosphere. No drinks being sold!

At 6. 30-7 pm the bars open to jostling crowds of Korean males who bar fine nearly every girl in the bar. After that the bars are 'dead' and not worth visiting. ".

Was there in 2017 and ok there were plenty of Koreans coming in and taking girls early but still enough left over for others.

Is it really this bad now or exaggeration?

Appreciate recent feedback.

I was there 2 weeks ago. It isn't that bad. There is still cuties available. A couple bars were DEAD though. I just moved on and voila, there was cuties.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2285373]On another popular travel forum an Aussie punter wrote in late 2018 the following about sabang.

"If you are a single Caucasian tourist interested in drinking in bars where there are bar girls you can forget about visiting Sabang's bars. They are completed Korean-ised now. Basically 10 minutes after opening the bars are 'empty'. No girls, no customers, no atmosphere. No drinks being sold!

At 6. 30-7 pm the bars open to jostling crowds of Korean males who bar fine nearly every girl in the bar. After that the bars are 'dead' and not worth visiting. ".

Was there in 2017 and ok there were plenty of Koreans coming in and taking girls early but still enough left over for others.

Is it really this bad now or exaggeration?

Appreciate recent feedback.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Free2;2285961]I was there 2 weeks ago. It isn't that bad. There is still cuties available. A couple bars were DEAD though. I just moved on and voila, there was cuties.[/QUOTE]I thought surely it was overstated.

[QUOTE=Free2;2281171]BrainDrain, you got to give me more credit than that!

My FB account is set up so that nobody can search for me. Also, my friends cannot see who my friends are. I few years has taught me the basics of surviving FB in the Phils. When they ask why, I just say it is because I am a businessman and I don't want my info public. They accept that.[/QUOTE]I do give you credit for your FB setup. The way to do it is for a person to setup a new FB account and use only your email address, phone number or other name to "find friends". FB and skype if they only have one contact will present the details. The social behemoths do not care about you or your privacy.

I have been mulling over a more off the beaten path city to frequent for more than a few reasons.

1. I am known by too many ex bar fines / Date in Asia contacts (SM Clark, Clark call center girls) in Angeles and it is somewhat of an uneasy feeling I enjoy a bit of mysteriousness and I believe its safer and much more fruitful for people to not know my modus operandi.

2. The bar girl scene no longer lights that fire for me banging girls that 300 other guys have run through that year alone is no longer my cup of tea (it was fun while it lasted).

3. Some parts of phils is not what it used to be 8-10 years ago, Girls in manila, cebu and angeles all seem to have past foreigner boyfriends which wasn't the case 8-10 years ago in said areas.

4. I go to the Philippines to get away from westerners not to bunch up with them.

So I have a question and before you answer the ubiquitous just "go to Angeles, Subic, Cebu or Manila" I have played them out and want to move on to lesser known pastures. They might not be greener but over the past few years I have been avoiding AC and Philippines as a whole.

I have been in some of the most run down places in Indonesia, Laos, Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar and have experienced things some good and some very bad all without speaking 1 word of their language. It will be nice to do some of that same pickup magic with girls that can actually understand more than hand gestures. Picking up women is not a problem I poses as long as there are women around that being said. What brought me back is I have been reaching out to women in the following cites and have about 10-20 girls willing to meet in each area so here are the choices.

Tacloban City, Catbalogan City, Calbayog City. These girls seem much more genuine I'm lumping those in together as I probably would work my way north from tacloban and fly back to manila from Calbayog. These girls seem very naive and the amount of foreigners in these areas seem to be limited.

Surigao City, Surigao, Butuan City. These girls seem to be into swimming maybe due to their proximity to Surigao. These girls seem like they have had some contact with foreigners but not as much as the more major cities.

Cagayan de Oro. Lots of willing participants in this city which I don't know a whole lot about. Easy access to and from clark.

Davao. The girls seem to be willing but more conservative than most citys in phils. I've been watching some youtube videos about this place easy access from clark but the girls seem less open than normal.

And my last option is Tuguegarao I've always wanted to travel to far north luzon, I once heard from a Filipino truck driver that girls way up north are cheap and notably pretty. Not an easy city to get to but maybe the exclusivity of it might lend it self to a more genuine experience.

Thoughts on any of these locations opinions on them? Are my assumptions about these areas correct? I am not asking for advice on whether I should go or not rather thoughts on these areas as a whole.

Like I said above I do have 10-20 women in each area as a backup plan if pulling off the street is not an option. Just thought I would field any insight anyone was willing to share on this topic.

Any constructive conversation and criticism welcome as I will be choosing some or all of these locations sometime in the future to pick up girls in.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2307399]I have been mulling over a more off the beaten path city to frequent for more than a few reasons.
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Like I said above I do have 10-20 women in each area as a backup plan if pulling off the street is not an option. Just thought I would field any insight anyone was willing to share on this topic.

Any constructive conversation and criticism welcome as I will be choosing some or all of these locations sometime in the future to pick up girls in.[/QUOTE]I have been all over the Philippines in my work role from the far north to the deep south.

The major tip I would give you is to keep activities very discreet, as filipinos in general love gossip (tsismis) and so (many or most) girls will be very wary about being seen in public with you. If you do arrange meet-ups you will probably have to plan ways to sneakily meet them without locals seeing you.

The best way is to bus them to another near-by city where they will be more relaxed.

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The best way is to bus them to another near-by city where they will be more relaxed.[/QUOTE]Funny thing that you have mentioned that I understand that some of the smaller cites on this list can be somewhat problematic in terms of being discreet. I did posit the idea of meeting some of these girls in a neighboring city. The allure of these particular girls is that they claim they have no prior interactions with foreigners. That is something that I am willing to do a little bit of travel for. These girls seem very unwilling to travel outside their hometown and visiting their corner of their province may or may not put me at risk. I have been trying to convince them to be shipped out to a larger city but most seem unwilling. I also don't know if I like the idea of padala'ing the money to them only to be stood up but that may be better than waking into a kidnapping. So point well taken you just confirmed one of my concerns. Gossip is an issue in phils I haven't found a way to combat it seems like I just wear out my welcome sooner or later. Not all countries are like this places like Tokyo this is not much of an issue I dated 3 girls from the same apartment complex in ginza at the same time different times of the week and 2 of them were married none of them knew of the others. I guess that is a perk of a first world country you do have a measure of implicit freedom when it comes to dating or compensated dating. Not so much in phils.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2307399]I have been mulling over a more off the beaten path city to frequent for more than a few reasons.





Cagayan de Oro. Lots of willing participants in this city which I don't know a whole lot about. Easy access to and from clark.

Davao. The girls seem to be willing but more conservative than most citys in phils. I've been watching some youtube videos about this place easy access from clark but the girls seem less open than normal.

Like I said above I do have 10-20 women in each area as a backup plan if pulling off the street is not an option. Just thought I would field any insight anyone was willing to share on this topic.

Any constructive conversation and criticism welcome as I will be choosing some or all of these locations sometime in the future to pick up girls in.[/QUOTE]I suggest that you focus on CDO and / or Davao for a couple of reasons. First, because there's a more reasonable amount of interesting stuff to do in each city that you might not find in the others you mention. CDO and Davao both have fairly vibrant restaurant scenes, things to do and see during the day and enough of a big city "feel" to remain reasonably interesting.

I've lived in Davao for approximately 17 years, and despite its somewhat "conservative" reputation, it's pretty easy hunting, either for the P4 P or semi-pro variety of women. CDO, which I know less well but where I've been many times, is pretty much the same though on a smaller scale. Both places have the usual point and click-type bars and, in the case of Davao, numerous KTVs where you can play inside or take the girls out at your option. Both have ample malls, coffee shops, and other meeting venues where it's possible to meet non-bar women. You might want to consider traveling by road from Davao to CDO or vice versa, simply because it's a beautiful and interesting 5-6 hour drive through some varied scenery. The road is steadily being improved, and if you don't have a car of your own, bus and van transport is easy to arrange and quite safe.

That's just my take, but then again I'm a confirmed city boy and too much time in rural areas makes me want to run screaming for the nearest traffic jam as quickly as possible.

GE.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2307531]

...Davao to CDO or vice versa, simply because it's a beautiful and interesting 5-6 hour drive through some varied scenery. The road is steadily being improved, and if you don't have a car of your own, bus and van transport is easy to arrange and quite safe.

That's just my take, but then again I'm a confirmed city boy and too much time in rural areas makes me want to run screaming for the nearest traffic jam as quickly as possible.
[/QUOTE]Traveling to CDO over land was something I was considering I was not sure about how safe it was to venture out into those provinces in the deep interior in between the two cites that is something I thought might not be very safe to do being a foreigner. You saying that is it "safe" certainly opens up some options. I think right now Davao and CDO are definitely on my list since they have direct flights from Clark. I actually like to fly out of Clark it is much less of a hassle than it is flying out of NAIA. What I may end up doing is flying to both locations from Clark CRK-CGY is about $125 and CRK-DVO is about $150 round trip. I was just going to use Angeles as kind of a reliable well known home base and not so much for mongering. The fact that they both have bars and KTVs to fall back on is good to hear. Thanks for the input it certainly does help to narrow it down.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2307549]Traveling to CDO over land was something I was considering I was not sure about how safe it was to venture out into those provinces in the deep interior in between the two cites that is something I thought might not be very safe to do being a foreigner. You saying that is it "safe" certainly opens up some options. I think right now Davao and CDO are definitely on my list since they have direct flights from Clark. I actually like to fly out of Clark it is much less of a hassle than it is flying out of NAIA. What I may end up doing is flying to both locations from Clark CRK-CGY is about $125 and CRK-DVO is about $150 round trip. I was just going to use Angeles as kind of a reliable well known home base and not so much for mongering. The fact that they both have bars and KTVs to fall back on is good to hear. Thanks for the input it certainly does help to narrow it down.[/QUOTE]This is good to know, MM. Thanks. I might be exploring there in the future.

I've taken the bus between the two cities several times. The bus is comfortable and the road is good. I wouldn't go overland to Zamboanga but that route is safe.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2307399]I have been mulling over a more off the beaten path city to frequent for more than a few reasons.[/QUOTE]Add me to the list of people considering a circuit around Mindanao. I've been to DVO a couple of times and would recommend it to anyone who is happy to get off the regular tourist runs. The girls there are great. The only issues I had was that they can take some time to develop and pre work before actually being in town proved futile for me but YMMV. I found allowing a few extra days in town and making contact when physically there was very beneficial.

Enjoy. G.