Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2241960]
Most gogo bars in Pattaya open at 8 pm with a few exceptions like Windmill, Baccara, etc. Some actually aren't opening until 8:30 now. Guess they figure business is slow at 8 pm which it is. You have to act quickly in a gogo bar. Japanese and Korean men are impatient. They barfine a girl within a minute after even seeing the one they like on stage.

Walking Street is full of fairly wealthy Japanese and Korean and more recently Chinese. These guys don't do ST. The 2000 baht is irrelevant to them. They all take girls LT and take them to a disco or other gogo bars before going back to their hotel. It's not that common to see girls return to the bar after a ST. They usually take the opportunity to go out with their friends or guys they like to hang out with. IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.[/QUOTE]Oh so its quite different than Bangkok where I see top girls cycling through ST customers all night.

So if you say competition is much stiffer. The girls are looking for what?

Young? Fun? Charming? Handsome? Boyfriend?

I'm 4 out of the 5, you can guess which I'm not tryna be LOL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2241960] IMHO competition is much stiffer in Pattaya gogo bars than Bangkok for popular girls and you can read here how some guys can't compete, usually by saying how they don't like Pattaya. I've met some older guys who have given up on Pattaya since they can't pull in the girls they want no matter how much money they have.[/QUOTE]I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.

I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.

Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.

So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.

Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2242282]I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.

I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.

Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.

So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.

Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.[/QUOTE]Syzy, have you gone to Pattaya recently and surveyed the potential talent there? I would be interested to know where and how often your standards of beauty apply in that location these days. By my observation, seeing a truly well put together girl in terms of basic body and facial features is a very heavy lift in Pattaya. Virtually anywhere in town. There are some, very rare though, in terms of natural DNA, youth, fitness, whatever. But almost without exception they spoil it with big ugly tattoos in the worst possible places, weird piercings, braying nasally voices, heavy cigarette smoking, gobs of garish make-up and general turn off demeanor. For me, that is.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2242310]Syzy, have you gone to Pattaya recently and surveyed the potential talent there? I would be interested to know where and how often your standards of beauty apply in that location these days. By my observation, seeing a truly well put together girl in terms of basic body and facial features is a very heavy lift in Pattaya. Virtually anywhere in town. There are some, very rare though, in terms of natural DNA, youth, fitness, whatever. But almost without exception they spoil it with big ugly tattoos in the worst possible places, weird piercings, braying nasally voices, heavy cigarette smoking, gobs of garish make-up and general turn off demeanor. For me, that is.[/QUOTE]I'd agree with you. Most are very rough, bordering on feral at times. I just don't like the vibe from most of them. Pattaya used to be charmingly sleazy; now it's just gross. And that harsh Isaan growl and personality. I can do without that. Of course there are exceptions, but more often than naught when I am down there I end up empty handed. Friend was there over the weekend and didn't partake once. He lived in Hong Kong for a long time and still sends me pics of 141 gals that you can have for the equivalent of 1600 Baht. And they just put the Thai gals to shame.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2242282]I agree that would be very frustrating if can't get the pretty girls no matter what, for us old guys.

I have been highly frustrated myself on occasion in Bangkok. Two girls kept refusing me in Long Gun years ago. Both stunners, but different bodies. One girl Noi eventualy went with me and then was terrible on the bed, so I could see why she refused me. LOL She might respond to younger spunky guys. At one time I really had the hots for her, a tall model type with really good tits.

Another super hot girl dancing right in front of me, in Baccara, would not even look at me or answer when I asked if she was available. She soon made a beeline for a young handsome Farang, she clearly knew already. These things are just a little frustrating. We all probably like to think of ourselves as one of the better potential customers, treating girls well.

So why go to Pattaya if is going to be so frustrating getting to the top girls? Already found Thermae quite frustrating. The girls I could get, and liked well enough, were never any good on the bed these days. So don't see any point to keep going to Thermae. Right? It's delusional if I keep believing my luck will change. Maybe luck could change once, then go bad again.

Clearly it is realistic to find girls that prefer old Farangs, and still in great shape themselves.[/QUOTE]One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2242324]One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.[/QUOTE]Another way to look at it is to say that the mongering scene has degenerated into kind of a dating scene.

The SJWs who keep agitating against "dirty old men" abusing pretty young things in Thailand have no clue how far off from the truth they are.

[QUOTE=MonkeyPaw;2140991]Thanks for the advice. But look at it this way, when you are hungry, you can get full eating at home, at a Thai street food stall on Beach Road, McDonald's near Beach Road 13/1 or the Hooters Pattaya, next to it. Hopefully you understand that analogy. It's what separates those with higher rationale from others. Unfortunately, we are not all blessed by God with the same abilities and powers to get what we want out of life.

Reasons I pay more.

1. To get the exact experience that I want.

2. To get the exact girls I want.

3. To get it at the exact time I want.

4. To get it done at the exact place I want.

5. And money to me ain't shit..[/QUOTE]Monkey paw,

You are awesome man. I have read your posts and can understand that you are enjoying the life by fucking beautiful girls and living luxurious life without caring about money that you spend. I am very curious and eager to know the basic idea of your method of earnings. Hope you would not mind. Would you please let me know, how have you been able to spend so much money on these girls? Are you a business tycoon? Please ignore if you don't want to answer. But if you don't mind then please let me know either in open forum or through PM. Waiting for your reply.

Charlie28.

[QUOTE=XXL;2242327]Another way to look at it is to say that the mongering scene has degenerated into kind of a dating scene.

The SJWs who keep agitating against "dirty old men" abusing pretty young things in Thailand have no clue how far off from the truth they are.[/QUOTE]I'd actually say it is the opposite. Back in the day the gals wanted long term relationships; now most don't. They are making too much doing loads of Asian guys and milking sponsors from overseas. Used to they had to do their best to catch a dude with the where with all to take care of them. We used to say, "Guys don't come to Thailand to F% P4 P gals, they come to date P4 P gals. " But yes, the old dudes did take care of them pretty well. I know many that live here with gals they have been with for 20 years.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2242324]One of the reasons for choosing BKK as a place to live in '99 was seeing all the old dudes with the hottest gals. Back in the day the 50's and 60's guys always seems to have the sexiest gals. Not anymore. Now the scene in BKK is dominated by Asian dudes, many of them quite young. They are less demanding, will take what they get, and not make a fuss. It's their scene now. The farang is not going to make a comeback.[/QUOTE]I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.

But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard earned money. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.

The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2242397]I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.

But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard money earned. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.

The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.[/QUOTE]Also thailand in general is just more developed than it was even 10 years ago. Got to go somewhere way way poor if you want that type of treatment still.

[QUOTE=RobJones;2242231]There was in February a restaurant / bar called Country Road on Soi 4. It was near the Ibis. The establishment I'm referring to is called the Bus Stop. It is on the opposite side of Soi 4 from NEP.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but you have completely lost me mate. Please read both your posts and you will understand why I'm confused.

On my second night, I checked out Papagayo Go Go. It's is located on Soi Diana and Soi Lengkee. Great little Gogo. I met a 22 year old spinner with a killer ass. Darker skin than I'm used to but a cute face and braces. Had a great time playing around with the girls and drinking and she was truly a diamond in the ruff. Lady drinks 160, bar fine 1000, and 3000 LT. She stayed until 2 PM the next day. Sex the night before was an incredible PSE and GFE the next morning. Her name is Bell. She is 1 of only 3 girls that were above average in the bar and like I said a true diamond in the ruff. The attached photos show the girl and the bar name in the background of one of the photos.

Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum. So maybe this is the first one. On Soi Bukow (spelt wrong) beside the Subway, there was a cute girl out front. After checking out of my hotel, I decided to get a massage. 300 Baht for one hour. As I lay naked on the bed, the girl proceeds with a decent oil massage. After about 20 minutes, I was asked about special. I asked about boom boom. She said total 1,500. Next was a decent blow job and a 30 minute pounding. Paid the other 1200, showered and left. Overall worth the 1500 but next time, I will proposition one for an out call at my hotel. Photos from Google steeett view. Not worth the 500 for HJ or 1000 for BJ.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2242397]I can't shake the suspicion that in the pre-Viagra days, those old dudes with a hot babe on each arm rarely had much sexual use of them. And the hot girl on each arm had carved out quite a deal for herself; get escorted around and supported in every way, had her family supported, and that old dude would be drunk and asleep before 11pm. At which point the girls could contact their young Thai boyfriends and set up quick little trysts somewhere at some time. And everyone who saw them strolling around with old Jasper knew it. Nice catch, honey.

But not today. Today, if such a girl is seen being carted around by an old dude, best guess by anyone observing them is that girl is dreading the evening ahead because it will be another night of very hard earned money. LOL. That would very much alter the quality of girl willing to take on such job for the next critical 10-20 years of her life. Again, just guessing. So I am not surprised that in THESE days, it is much harder to get a real hottie to commit herself to spending night after night for the next decade or more with some old dude 3 1/2 times her age and a boner at the ready almost every damn night.

The smartphone and pervasive online social networks changed the scene dramatically. And, imo, so did the invention and further development of those boner pills.[/QUOTE]Viagra was plentiful in the late 90's and early 00's. My sneaking suspicion is that the older guys at that time were the main ones with money, most being on fat expat packages.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2242488]Has anybody ever wondered about those little massage shops? I have and I've never ever seen a report on them in the forum. So maybe this is the first one. On Soi Bukow (spelt wrong) beside the Subway, there was a cute girl out front. After checking out of my hotel, I decided to get a massage. 300 Baht for one hour. As I lay naked on the bed, the girl proceeds with a decent oil massage. After about 20 minutes, I was asked about special. I asked about boom boom. She said total 1,500. Next was a decent blow job and a 30 minute pounding. Paid the other 1200, showered and left. Overall worth the 1500 but next time, I will proposition one for an out call at my hotel. Photos from Google steeett view. Not worth the 500 for HJ or 1000 for BJ.[/QUOTE]I have talked about massage places several times when someone has asked. Outcall is 500 for the massage and I give them another 500 for FS. Total 1000. The times that I have done it in-house I still give 500 plus the cost of the massage. After that, I will have the girl's contact info and give them 1000 for staying overnight when they get off work. In a lot of places the girls sleep at the shops anyway.