Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908692] ("I'm Rick James beeeyatch!").
The Internet (just search Sosua on YouTube) is both gift and curse at times.[/QUOTE]Ain't that the damn truth! Long live Sosua. Or at least tell me where the next Sue is located.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1908583]

All this pontificating and moralizing about the politically correct way to behave in a brothel is just too much, but it breaks up the day!

Nobody agrees with violence, but we're not talking about the Augusta National Golf Club here!

They don't have a badge for "Monger Police", as far as I know.[/QUOTE]Brothels have their own codes of conduct, though, set by management. Try going to a brothel in Nevada and walking around with your cronies openly smoking weed and drinking from your own bottles of liquor. I expect you would be asked to leave (not that I have ever been to one, or even been to Nevada.) If you go to Blackbeards, you will notice that there is definitely a code of conduct in the public areas. As a tourist you could go there, have lunch, hang around the pool, and not see anything untoward or sexual going on. But if you jumped into the pool nude, you would probably be thrown out.

People on the ground. I am on the ground right now! Have the people here that keep talking like they know sonething go where I have gone. If you read my La Victoria maximum prison post of the brother who thought it was okay to smoke weed on conde street and got locked. He then talked shit to the police when I saw him in there he had not been to court for three months begging me to help him and get a message to his family for help. He reminds me of some people on this board who think they know something and have no connections that can help them when the shit hits the fan. Now all you want to be gangsters you get locked up in there your on your own. I saw a lot of brothers in there who thought they could come in to the dr and do what they want. You have to buy your bed and have people bring food and supplies in for you, but how does that happen you are foreigner. You will quickly learn no one is coming for you to help. You are on your own baller! You are an hour outside of santo domingo with 8000 inmates that is suppose to hold 3000. Just think they locked him for smoking weed, a sex video you can forget it. Why you think they will check certain phones one of these girls will see you taping her and she will tell the police you will be asked for some high amount you will refuse because you will think you know something and they will lock you and you will end up paying a lot more with time in jail and money to get out. Maybe you can say you forgot the password and when you realize you will get beat by the police when you refuse in the cell you will change your mind baller. Then when the embassy comes to visit your ignorant ass they will walk in take one look at you and say good luck you going to need it and they did there one required visit. Everyone talking tough like they know something has never been in there and trust me you have no connections in there and do not speak spainish you can forget it and pray you make it out. But I am snob. You been in there?

I am as real as they come always respectful, but people want to talk shit like they know something I will check them because weak mothfuckers always want to try to lash out and put you down because they are not shit. Someone going to stand on another man's post to attack me and do not even know what there talking about. I am not going to let that slide.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908671]Someone name for me one other trick spot outside of the US where mongers show up and project thug culture this fragrantly.[/QUOTE]Being a lone traveler, my exposure is different and so perhaps I do not visit the same Sosua, but frankly, I do not notice what you are speaking of being projected. I do see a lot of black men in shorts around Rumba and the locale the opposite side but I really did not notice anything that could be called untoward (that Frannie described), let alone thuggery. Yes, it is true that when you visit Germany, the clubs are as tame as could be and that I recall, Bangkok, Thailand, had something for all tastes but I saw few black men in both places. Are we then putting it down to people, who have limited exposure to the world at large and who cannot leave their home behind even when they are outside home? Reading the exchanges here, it seems to be more of a class thing than a race thing but then I do not understand many of the code words used or indeed even heard of the youtube channel mentioned but, personally, I am not convinced that a specific group could have caused the "downfall" of the place.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;1908496]GrownMan you got it right.

The exchange rate is more important to them. Because they don't spend dollars they spend pesos.

They voted for the anti prostitution candidate. So all anyone can do now who is just a visitor to the Dominican Republic is to vote with their dollar and choose to spend them in other parts of the island or other countries.

It's straight bare knuckle politics. And actually pretty tame compared to when the Republicans Jacked the American Presidency for George Bush right in front of the American People. This is a Dominican issue and they are handling it in a Dominican way. Anyone trying to lay the blame at the feet of any one or group of visitors is operating with faulty brain patterns and a lack of knowledge of the Dominican Republic. Maybe they just haven't been here in a while? Street prostitution is street prostitution. And residents of Sosua have made a statement loud and clear that they don't want it in their town anymore. Sexual Tourists you don't have to go home but you got to get the hell out of here!

Cuba Dave got locked up because the controlling legal entities in the country he was operating believe he has violated the law. The same thing can happen in the Dominican Republic. Do you realize that you can be locked up and held for a year without trial, without question? I would advise anyone who travels here to not get it twisted. All the American Embassy can do for you is make sure your rights are not being violated under Dominican law. Go to Singapore and get convicted of violating the law. The American Embassy will protest. But in the end they will cain your bare black ass (or whatever color your ass happens to be, I don't think they really care)!

Damn straight my brother. But I don't really think this is a black or white issue. Do you? The way I see it is an attack on street prostitution. I don't have contacts in the Dominican Government whispering secrets into my ear. Nor am I bringing my american lack of cultural sensitivity, telling everyone what they should believe and when questioned about it trying to force it down everyone else's throat. From my lowly position I can't really see anything. I'm just reading reports like most everyone else. Maybe at some point I'll fire up the Gran Jefe mobile and roll up to the North Coast and check it out. But until then I choose to focus on news reports and reports from my fellow posters who are actually reporting information from the scene.[/QUOTE]As much as I agree that the 2000 SCOTUS ruling, stopping the ballot counting in Florida, was poorly written and biased, this is not a place to post politically charged statements that you can not prove and in addition make for an ill considered comparison with the Dominican actions that are executive in nature, not legal. And this coming from someone that just the other day, acting as Mr Camaro 's surrogate, indicated that a reference to Spain in a VALID and FACTUAL reference to validate my view on DR' high cost of living, should have been in another forum. And then you finished your post whith a puerile LOL. Back in High School I guess. You, that are in record as a native speaker should know that injecting religious or political opinions in an unsolicited way is frown upon back home. Now. I will rest and see if any poodle comes out barking.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1908625]
What if you were a local resident eating out in a restaurant away from the prostitution bars and two men at the next table had two Dominican women straddling their chairs and dry humping them in between courses, while they smoked cigarettes, in plain view of young children? I saw this once at a favorite restaurant of mine......

.....Now look at it from the point of view of local residents, not all of whom are in the prostitution business and related occupations. It is they who have the right to decide what will be tolerated in Sosua, and what will not..[/QUOTE]If you live a the real world you would be more selective in your choice of restaurants!

Take it up with the owner, he decides what will be tolerated. If those other "bad" folks come in every day, and you come in once a month, he might think you are the asshole!

He, like you, has a decision to make. How he runs his business and how you spend your money !

As for living in a hell pit like Sosua, it is a giant brothel, so it's up to the locals to suck it up, or move! The prostitution business is responsible for their shopping and restaurants, and those new sidewalks and trees. You won't find a Playera or a Bailey's in Charamicos :)

Like in a restaurant, or a brothel, the most effective way to change things is to vote with your feet and your spending money. If that doesn't work, you are in the minority, and nobody gives flying fuck what you approve of disapprove of.

It's just life!

[QUOTE=Nordico;1908657]You just nailed the way many mongers seem to think about Sosua. It's their own little brothel and as clients they can behave as they please. But even in a brothel you have to behave and have respect or you are kicked out. I don't think the 65 000 people in Sosua who have nothing to do with the prostitution, want to see their pueblo as mini Cuba of the 50's. In today's Cuba many of these mongers would be kicked in a jail and the key thrown away and the US embassy could do nothing.[/QUOTE]Not quite what I'm saying.

In my post I said "nobody approves of violence". Read it again!

But if you want to be safe from violence you don't hang out in a giant brothel that brings with it all the crime and drugs that go with it!

If shit happens in a place like that you shouldn't be "shocked" :)

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1908684]Damn shame. One person sees these folks' home as an obscure town in the third world and another sees it as a brothel where they should be allowed to act however they want (as long as there is no violence).[/QUOTE]If you live in a brothel, don't complain about the noise! .

[QUOTE=Frannie;1908714]Brothels have their own codes of conduct, though, set by management. Try going to a brothel in Nevada and walking around with your cronies openly smoking weed and drinking from your own bottles of liquor. I expect you would be asked to leave (not that I have ever been to one, or even been to Nevada.) If you go to Blackbeards, you will notice that there is definitely a code of conduct in the public areas. As a tourist you could go there, have lunch, hang around the pool, and not see anything untoward or sexual going on. But if you jumped into the pool nude, you would probably be thrown out.[/QUOTE]I'm not talking about Nevada, Blackbeards, or even Amsterdam. They are controlled environments.

I'm talking about the World's Third Rated unregulated brothel town. There Bangkok, Rio, and Sosua.


If folks choose to live there, or stay there, spare me the tears. Here's a quarter:)

I see the monger police squad out in force today, with their "codes of conduct".

Looks like I am a minority of one, here.

That somehow pleases me!

Anyway this board needs a rattle once in a while.

"The me too, me too" circle jerk gets a little stale :)

Thuggery is the code word in the monger world for niggers or too many black males around for white males to compete with for the girls. It was the same in Rio! They don't nothing to do with black unless it's for a chica or garota. When the Hells Angeles have their convention in Rio they go after more preta and morenas their reais can buy. It's the same when you hear or read on boards about too many thugs anywhere else. In Sosua the whites want Haitianas the same way! LOL!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1908765]Being a lone traveler, my exposure is different and so perhaps I do not visit the same Sosua, but frankly, I do not notice what you are speaking of being projected. I do see a lot of black men in shorts around Rumba and the locale the opposite side but I really did not notice anything that could be called untoward (that Frannie described), let alone thuggery. Yes, it is true that when you visit Germany, the clubs are as tame as could be and that I recall, Bangkok, Thailand, had something for all tastes but I saw few black men in both places. Are we then putting it down to people, who have limited exposure to the world at large and who cannot leave their home behind even when they are outside home? Reading the exchanges here, it seems to be more of a class thing than a race thing but then I do not understand many of the code words used or indeed even heard of the youtube channel mentioned but, personally, I am not convinced that a specific group could have caused the "downfall" of the place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908671]
Someone name for me one other trick spot outside of the US where mongers show up and project thug culture this fragrantly and I will proudly say that I don't know what the hell I am talking about.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1908844]Thuggery is the code word in the monger world for niggers or too many black males around for white males to compete with for the girls.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1908408]
I am Black, by the way. Now what?
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[QUOTE=Revere;1908417]I am black and yes I like to be politically correct because I hate to put down my people, but my people sometimes do not know how to act. [/QUOTE]


IpanemaCarioca, try again bruh, lmao.

It may come as a shock to you, but probably over half of the posters in this forum are black...

[QUOTE=Oakie;1908802]Not quite what I'm saying.

In my post I said "nobody approves of violence". Read it again!

But if you want to be safe from violence you don't hang out in a giant brothel that brings with it all the crime and drugs that go with it!

If shit happens in a place like that you shouldn't be "shocked" :)[/QUOTE]You'd better read my post again. Not mentioned or talked about violence.

[QUOTE=Revere;1908722]I am not going to let that slide.[/QUOTE]LOL, what?

Yes, you're absolutely right. I don't know a thing about Dominican prisons. Maybe you're the resident expert.

Additionally, I do not claim to have a direct line to senior Dominican officials and US Embassy personnel, or to whomever you claim told you that Sosua has decided to take a hard line against sex tourism because of "weekend ballers / wolfpacks" and a WorldStar video.

However, I think the scenario you're describing is highly unlikely.

You all are discussing the long term direction of the town, which is obviously very important. But for those of us who are arriving soon, can anyone who is actually there let us know what's happening with the bars?

I don't care so much about the street walkers. I want to know if there are hot girls in the places that are still open Classico? Bourbon Street? And if the rumor that Rumba will reopen actually came true.