Dubai Reports

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2763088]Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them. I guess they realize that a guy who can spend more on a room for a night, than their damage + tip combined, is going to be as good as his word. This is Human Psychology 101, IMHO. And, I feel, this would be true for other hobbyists as well.

Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless. But, these were few and far between[/QUOTE]I agree with your points. As a general rule (based on my personal experience of course), if you're seeing the girl the first time, more often than not she will ask for payment upfront and I understand that. There are some real douchebags out there that have ripped the girls off, I have heard some really shitty stories so can understand them being leery about this. However, I totally agree with you that where you reside, how you dress, etc goes a long way in alleviating the girls concerns about getting ripped off. When a few girls recently came to my apartment, they could see branded stuff and the nice view / location and hence one told me that she knew she wouldn't be getting ripped off. So that does help. But if a girl asks for payment upfront the first time you're seeing her, I think it's OK because they have had some really shitty experiences with some punters. Once I repat a girl and some trust is developed, payment is never mentioned and she knows I'll slip her 'gift' in her bag at the end.

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2763088]
In a lighter vein, maybe, some sort of a pay as you go plan can be negotiated and it might be structured like this:

LFK/DFK - 10%.

HJ - 10%.

BJ - 20%.

DATY/FIV - 20%.

FS - 20%.

COF/CIM - 10%.

Other Misc. - 10%.

What do you guys think? Take care everyone.[/QUOTE]LOL. Reminds me too much of our IT projects.

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2762440]For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.
[/QUOTE]Point 2 is the bulls eye, has happened a couple of times in SE Asia. One reason I find the more detailed MR reviews (if you can spot genuine ones) / FRs useful and has less "surprises".

With WG, it is hard to find the same fish in the sea.

LOL! I can only imagine the look on a girl's face when present with this payment schedule 🤪.

[QUOTE=AnonMous;2763088]Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them.

Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless.
[/QUOTE]I've taken the negotiation approach. I was indeed able to find women who are ok with being paid afterwards (Vietnamese from York hotel), and ok with BBBJ included, once I negotiate it all beforehand. If I don't negotiate it beforehand, they seem to not even care how nice my hotel is (5 star suite), and are already to leave to leave or argue. (Russians / EE).

Hilariously enough, some WGs do not budge on BBBJ or being paid afterwards, even when the ratio is like 50 women to 1 man.

The only issues with negotiating (without a manager involved) is many WGs don't know English well (I don't blame them) and some will absolutely lie. So at the end of the day, I prefer quantity and from there I will re-book the ones I really like.

[QUOTE=Rocko20;2763411]If I don't negotiate it beforehand, they seem to not even care how nice my hotel is (5 star suite), and are already to leave to leave or argue. (Russians / EE).[/QUOTE]Yeah, EE/Russians are less accommodating, especially when compared with SEA WGs. God endowed the former ones with killer bodies and then, to balance the scales, blessed them with ship attitude where they don't take the aforementioned vessel from anyone. LOL. Also, I find that SEA women and even CIS ones, for that matter, are more docile and pliable, if you know what I mean.

Hi All,

Not too long ago I've decided to take a stop in Dubai, mainly due to some of the great experiences report on this forum. After RTFF in the 24 h of free time I've had an elaborate plan prepared which consisted of finding the right hotel, going to Cin Cin, RS and Czar and finding the perfect WG to spend time with. This all went to hell starting with the fact that the hotel I initially booked (Golden Sands Creek) told me there was an overbooking, and they could not accommodate me for the night. Sigh.

In addition to this I've also had some unexpected work related things popping up, which really only allowed me to have time for the hobby starting at 10 pm.

So with the limited amount of time I had, I've decided to stick with Czar as my first and only destination. While the club is quite well described, experiencing it was something else, and somewhere on google someone has described as a place where the social retarded go to get laid, and I found that analogy both amusing and accurate. At the entrance, the dickhead bouncer told me the fee would be 300 AED, when I told him it should be 200, he dropped it to 250 AED (with the typical special price for you my friend BS) and would not let me in for less. The 250 only got me 2 drink coupons, where the drinks consisted of alcohol + basic soda. This was roughly around 10:30 pm and the club was dead empty. Around 11 pm the girls started coming in and there were probably 40-50 girls with only around 8 guys, none of whom looked like they had any interest taking a girl home.

As I hung around the bar, I found most girls sitting at the tables forming their own enclaves, waiting to be approached and only a handful of girls came by the bar and tried to initiate any "contact". My first approach were with two cute girls a 7 and a 8, with me trying to take to the cute 7 blonde. While she introduced herself as from Moldova, and accepted a drink, it was clear any small talk or conversation with her would be virtually impossible (at one point she asked me where this quite large european country I'm from was.

This interaction overall seemed to have reflected the vibe of the club, where girls unaccustomed to initiating conversations just generally hung out, not dancing, not drinking, pretty much not doing anything fun.

Around 12 pm I decided I've had enough of Czar, and was ready to pick the first good looking 8 and try to negotiate a relatively good session, when this Iranian girl strutted by and sat down by herself at a table. She was a darkhaired, curvy and busty girl who upon closer look probably resembled more a colombian WG than a typical skinny russian type. In general a 7 with a very pretty face. I came up, struck a conversation where she seemed friendly enough to pursue, and asked if she wanted to come home. We confirmed the details 1000 AED for 3-4 h all services except for CIM, which is a bummer.

On the way back to the hotel, the dickhead taxi tried charging me double what is the normal rate (sigh nr 2).

We arrived at the hotel (Radisson Blu), where we could have easily snuck into my room, but the Irani insisted on getting registered, which I thought would mean that the session would be fair without being shorted on the services.

After a quick shower, we had 2 pops, in between which we talked about a bunch of random topics ranging from culture to food etc. While I was ultimately happy with my choice of girl but tbh I don't know if I would come back to Dubai for WG. I personally think there are some better places for the hobby, especially given the rather unique club culture that exists. I welcome feedback from the seniors.

Some comments I've compiled that might help other noobs like myself:

-Manage expectations. After not getting the hotel I wanted I had to quickly settle for the Radisson. The hotel itself is very green, in the sense that the staff don't really care about signing girls in, and when they did, they gave no problems, and even a little sly smile.

-Czar has a "club" feeling but not a night club one, where one pickups girls as if in a night club. This was an important distinction for me, because I was under the impression most of the girls were just semi-pros, not full on WGs.

-Get the careem app for taxis, unless you want to get ripped off. If you're not used to haggling the whole process will become draining and annoying.

-The grading scale was pretty off for me. I found a lot of 7-8's at Czar physically speaking, but many of them are very much a no go purely because of attitude and the lack of ability to communicate, which leaves interactions very akward.

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tbh I don't know if I would come back to Dubai for WG. I personally think there are some better places for the hobby, especially given the rather unique club culture that exists. I welcome feedback from the seniors.[/QUOTE]I believe you should try more clubs and WGs to have a better idea if Dubai is for you. It seems you just went to 1 club and 1 WG before giving up. You can have an Iranian, Moroccan, Russian, Kazakhstan, Vietnamese, Ukrainian, and Eritrea in one location. Thats what makes Dubai different.

If you can find a better place with the same amount of diversity, let me know. Only place I can think of is Bahrain, which is much smaller.
[QUOTE=AnonMous;2763423]Yeah, EE/Russians are less accommodating, especially when compared with SEA WGs. God endowed the former ones with killer bodies and then, to balance the scales, blessed them with ship attitude where they don't take the aforementioned vessel from anyone. LOL. Also, I find that SEA women and even CIS ones, for that matter, are more docile and pliable, if you know what I mean.[/QUOTE]Agreed, haha.

[QUOTE=Juniorg1;2763489]

this Iranian girl strutted by and sat down by herself at a table. We confirmed the details 1000 AED for 3-4 h all services except for CIM, which is a bummer.

On the way back to the hotel, the dickhead taxi tried charging me double what is the normal rate (sigh nr 2).

We arrived at the hotel (Radisson Blu), where we could have easily snuck into my room, but the Irani insisted on getting registered, which I thought would mean that the session would be fair without being shorted on the services.

-Czar has a "club" feeling but not a night club one, where one pickups girls as if in a night club. This was an important distinction for me, because I was under the impression most of the girls were just semi-pros, not full on WGs.

-Get the careem app for taxis, unless you want to get ripped off. If you're not used to haggling the whole process will become draining and annoying.
[/QUOTE]Excellent report. The price you got for an Iranian for 2 pops was very reasonable. Getting a BBBJ from an Irani is a plus, I doubt any would do a CIM, so your expectation there was misplaced. The cabbies in Dubai are cunts (just like in most big cities of the world). If you use any Dubai RTA cab, they use the meter, so they can't dick you over the fare and there is no need to haggle. However, the problem is them taking a wrong, longer route. That you can only know about if you are a resident in the city and know your way around, and that's the most frequent trick the cabbies use to fuck the customer over. I also use Uber besides the Careem app which gets you the RTA cabbies. With an Uber which is 10 to 15 AED more expensive you get a better car (usually a Lexus) and the car won't be smelly like a lot of the RTA cabs are.

Lastly, most if not all of the girls you will see in Red Square or Czar, etc are hookers. Sure, some of them may have day time jobs as well.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2763749]\If you use any Dubai RTA cab, they use the meter, so they can't dick you over the fare and there is no need to haggle. However, the problem is them taking a wrong, longer route. That you can only know about if you are a resident in the city and know your way around, and that's the most frequent trick the cabbies use to fuck the customer over. [/QUOTE]When I take a cab in the UAE, and many other countries, I set up the trip on my iPhone using Google Maps. Upon entering the cab I show the driver the route on the map and mention that it's 15 km (or whatever) and that's the way I want to go with meter on. I seldom have wrong route issues and if I do I call him on it immediately.

Works like a charm.

[QUOTE=BloodRed;2763749]I also use Uber besides the Careem app which gets you the RTA cabbies. With an Uber which is 10 to 15 AED more expensive you get a better car (usually a Lexus) and the car won't be smelly like a lot of the RTA cabs are.[/QUOTE]During my last DXB trip I was using the NOL card extensively in Metro / Bus, however one day I missed the last metro from Dubai mall. I got down and used the S'hail app (was using that exclusively for directions and checking nol balance) to book a cab and kept waiting. To my horror it took forever to allocate a driver and pick me up, and kept saying please wait. After wasting 40-50 minutes, I finally downloaded the Careem app, created a profile and the cab picked me up in 10 minutes. It was a Lexus ES300 H, and it charged around 23 AED for a short 3 KM ride from Dubai mall to Al Safa tower (Opposite MOF) where I was staying. Will recommend every tourist to avoid RTA S'hail and use Careem instead for cab booking.

The other night Moscow 1 am was a mad crush. They just keep letting people in at the door. It got to the point where you just couldn't walk past the bar and people were being squeezed between the tables. Then a bouncer was demanding we move. I had an argument and decided to ban myself from Moscow (For a while anyway).

Last night I went to Cazars round 10:30 pm. Its more relaxed. The girls are currently hotter there. They all appear in more stylish clothing and theres some real honeys. They make an effort.

Last night I met a slim blonde Russian at Czars, a little distant, and tonight a tall Blonde Ukranian very GFE. All good fun. Theres a real cute Brunette on a far right table from entrance, And there was an Extremely Hot Brunette I saw in one one of the back vip booths with 2 Indian guys. I just needed to get there maybe 10 minutes earlier (. So Czars for me it is). My Hotel is just 3 km up the same road opposite QE2. After closing some of the girls go to the rooftop club Bazerkan. No Alchohol post 3 am but it's still Very busy and alive at 5 am. By 3 am I'm past alcohol anyway so I don't care. I'm there for more romantic reasons) They have a min 100 aed spend but its worth it.

Theres an Arab Club, Studio Al Khaleek on the opposite side of the entrance to Czars. Haven't been in but from the girls I seen walking in there are way hotter than the girls at the Arab bar above Red Square, Moscow. Some go to the rooftop bar before and after the club.

Around 10 pm tonight I was sitting in the foyer of Capital Hotel contemplating life) A slim blonde Arab walked from the lifts and was standing in the foyer. It was instant love. She was Breathless. I stood up to say Hi but had to pause to catch my composure. I couldn't think straight. She'the knocked me out for 10 seconds. Just as I was walking over she walked to a guy at the Hotel Eftpos machine. He gave her money and was off. I started to cry inside. Alas I went downstairs to Czars and that cheered me up no end.

Just an aside. Some girls noted to me the difference between Deira / Al Rigga and the other side of the Creek Bur Dubai / Al Fahidi. I hadn't consciously noted it before. They say they feel safer and prefer to live on the Bur Dubai / Al Fahidi side because its predominantly Filipino / Indian. The other side the Creek is Pakistani / African. I do like the hustle and bustle of Al Rigga but Al Rolla on Bur Dubai side is more my style. I love being within walking distance of Al Rollas madness.

Been a while and I am in the mood for some mongering. Any lads want to join for some joint mongering on the 24th?

Reached FP downtown hotel at 10 pm and was in mood for some action since I was staying just for one night, and had planned to pick up Wg from Ratsky. It's 20 minute walk from FP so decided to walk, since had been on a flight sitting for over 6 hrs.

Entry was AED 75 which gets you one bottled beer. Stayed for an hour having drinks and looking for a cute Viet to take back but the place was just filled with 5's and 6's lookwise and mostly over 35. Was pissed off and decided to take the cab back. Went to the spa next to FP whose name is a famous flower that begins with T. This was great experience but will post FR in AMP thread.

After the deed was done, jet lag was still playing its part and was fully awake, so decided to go dance bar called Mehndi, where cute Indian girls dance to Indian tunes. Nothing special but just blokes watching girls taking turns to dance and blokes tipping. Great if just want a drink and people watch. Next thing I know it's 2 am and feeling peckish so quick dinner in FP sports bar and off to bed to catch next days flight.

All in all gave me good idea to get my bearings and can confirm FP downtown is green as I saw WGs coming and leaving the hotel all the time.

[QUOTE=JackThePlaya;2764454]Been a while and I am in the mood for some mongering. Any lads want to join for some joint mongering on the 24th?[/QUOTE]Landing late on 24th and will hang out in Jules past midnight.