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[QUOTE=Fastpiston;2478376]Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.
The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.
Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.[/QUOTE]Prices went up drastically quickly because of freewheeling Koreans. As usual when overpaid quality of service goes down. Food wise AC has gotten better.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2478609] Food wise AC has gotten better.[/QUOTE]Marginally better options, mainly because of SM, but a lot has also gone downhill.
Salvatore's has changed hands and is not the same as when the Marble Inn owner ran it, Bunny Burger does as good takeout but know to charge for it. The good buffets are gone, there were a couple just on Fields, now nothing but Korean crap. Scorebirds did good buffets until recently, but last I checked they raised the price and limited it to once a week.
AC / PH is not a culinary destination, Thailand wins hands down, at a much lower price.
[QUOTE=Fastpiston;2478376]Often when major changes are forced upon us we often end up with better solutions.
The scene in AC deteriorated dramatically over the past 10 years.
Prices went up, service quality dropped, good looks became rare, LT became ST, AC food awful.[/QUOTE]You are being too optimistic! LOL. Most mongers on the Philippine board are too old to re-engineer themselves. Seriously, what could a septuagenarian monger with a measly home country pension reinvent himself as? Captain America? Maybe a life model for an art class? LOL. They are lucky if they can walk 10 feet without a Zimmer frame.
Most will die in their basements waiting for.
The Wuhan Reaper to pass.
[QUOTE=Goferring;2478572]Many times these things are like a pendulum. It could be argued that 10+ years ago AC was too much fun to be sustainainable. Before long everyone with a $100 airfare was there increasing prices and dropping required service levels. That's what we've got now. I'm not terribly hopefully but maybe, just maybe, things will rebound to a good time, being had for a reasonable cost, in a fun atmosphere.
Unfortunately, as I've said before this may be more aspirational than reality.
Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]All the places that have gotten worse have not gotten better: Geylang, Singapore, Chang Ping, China, Buenos Aires, Argentina, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. These are my former playgrounds but there are others. Sign of the times.
[QUOTE=Sammon;2478609]Prices went up drastically quickly because of freewheeling Koreans. As usual when overpaid quality of service goes down. Food wise AC has gotten better.[/QUOTE]I've never heard of extreme bribing and overpaying 3rd world hookers called "freewheeling" before LMAO.
You should do stand-up, that was seriously funny.
[QUOTE=EngineDriver;2478711]You are being too optimistic! LOL. Most mongers on the Philippine board are too old to re-engineer themselves. Seriously, what could a septuagenarian monger with a measly home country pension reinvent himself as? Captain America? Maybe a life model for an art class? LOL. They are lucky if they can walk 10 feet without a Zimmer frame.
Most will die in their basements waiting for.
The Wuhan Reaper to pass.[/QUOTE]The Angeles City pussy market was a labor and capital intensive enterprise unable to absorb prolonged economic shocks. Mongers should take a short rather than a long position on LBFM pussy. AC is currently rated sell do not buy! It has an unappealing forward and trailing Price-to-Ejaculations ratio and is downgraded to "junk" status. The crash of the AC pussy market is a classic example of the importance of a diversified portfolio of pussy. Those who put all their nest eggs into Pinay pussy stocks are now seeing their positions wiped out. Meanwhile, diversified mongers are enjoying broad holdings of rub-and-tug joints and dodgy brothels on the domestic market.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2478863]The Angeles City pussy market was a labor and capital intensive enterprise unable to absorb prolonged economic shocks. Mongers should take a short rather than a long position on LBFM pussy. AC is currently rated sell do not buy! It has an unappealing forward and trailing Price-to-Ejaculations ratio and is downgraded to "junk" status. The crash of the AC pussy market is a classic example of the importance of a diversified portfolio of pussy. Those who put all their nest eggs into Pinay pussy stocks are now seeing their positions wiped out. Meanwhile, diversified mongers are enjoying broad holdings of rub-and-tug joints and dodgy brothels on the domestic market.[/QUOTE]Investing your life savings in emerging markets was always a high risk strategy. Brazil, Thailand, Indonesia, Philippines and other BRIC nations were heavily marketed to gullible mongers by cunning fund managers in London, Sydney and Paris. While they returned good dividends in some years, they were unreliable due to sovereign risk, fluctuating currencies, poor governance and high levels of corruption in those countries. The pussy trade has completely collapsed in those nations with mongers having done their dough.
Some wise mongers decided to invest in balanced domestic market portfolios. These Index funds are boring and do not have the glamour and excitement of high risk associated with emerging markets as they only look to track the index. Those domestic market fund managers charge low fees and do not churn. They only offer white bread with jam instead of spicy red curry. Mongers who invested in the domestic pussy index know that you can never beat the index long term, so are happy to get rich slow. Sure, the occasional white pussy will have an odour, but that's all part of life in slow lane.
[QUOTE=BambooPete;2478139]Can you tell where these bars are, and their old name?[/QUOTE]Names didn't change much. Upstairs KONA hotel. Candy Cafe, Mischief Restaurant, and Hang time Cafe.
[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2478584]Yep. That will do it! All that remains of the Angeles City freelancer scene is the streetmeat strung out on shabu in New Freelancer Park and the ladyboys lurking in the dark on Johnny Street for the unwary.[/QUOTE]Since March 16th Thats about all their is here in AC. Shabu addicts, Glue sniffers and bakala hanging around the NEW freelancer park across from Envy Phillies and johnny st. Its truly a sad time to be here now.
[QUOTE=Streetlooker;2478991]Names didn't change much. Upstairs KONA hotel. Candy Cafe, Mischief Restaurant, and Hang time Cafe.[/QUOTE]Can't wait to see them.
I'm not surprised about Kona, as this is a quite new place. As it is near eruption, I'm wondering why Eruptions don't open a cafe, as they could use the billiard part to do something.
Hang time is next to Honeykos? I think this was never a bar, but good the hangout is open again.
Candy bar and Mischiefs is surprising, as those were "dark holes." Did they remove the dance floors?
[QUOTE=BambooPete;2479011]Can't wait to see them.
I'm not surprised about Kona, as this is a quite new place. As it is near eruption, I'm wondering why Eruptions don't open a cafe, as they could use the billiard part to do something.
Hang time is next to Honeykos? I think this was never a bar, but good the hangout is open again.
Candy bar and Mischiefs is surprising, as those were "dark holes." Did they remove the dance floors?[/QUOTE]Mischief is only the upstairs part where the pool table is and you have to enter on the side door up the spiral staircase. Candy cafe they put a tarp over the stage turned it into tables to eat around also got plastic up between each table along the wall. Kona is also only upstairs portion. Hang out is 1 person per table limit plastic between each table. They are doing what they can to stay legit mostly BUT money talks like always. Heard a few rumors that a few other perimeter bars are also converting night moves being the place that already was set up pretty much to be a Restaurant time will tell BUT its still very sad here.
There were several good looking freelancers around Friday night. If you saw one you liked you better grab her right away. The desperate mongers that lurk in the area around Phillies and Envy were quick to snatch them up but there were more than usual. Certainly anyone that has been around AC any time at all has a few phone numbers. All of the independents also have friends with phones. There is still plenty of action and also the prices are less than a barfine it's just not the point and click system it was. The girls that are still around need money worse than ever so the game is far from over. It has just changed quite a bit. If someone had a box of cheap unlocked cell phones that he was trading for action he would be turning girls away. Seems they always lose or break their phones.
[QUOTE=NewImage;2479578]Maybe COVID might be the final nail in the coffin for places like Angeles, pattaya et al.
Things have been sliding downhill for a while to the extent you ask yourself whether money could be better spent at home.
Last time I went to Angeles I was not impressed and wouldn't go back.[/QUOTE]Covid-19 Should have the opposite affect of what you said. The expensive places are the ones with the high overhead. Once they go out of business and get burned for enough money they probably won't come back to invest in Angeles.
Although, poor people still need to eat, but when things come back to where people are not afraid of the bullshit virus known as COVID-19, they won't have the KTV's and Korean Bars to choose from and they will be forced to find customers online or off the street.
The cheap bars might open first to test the waters but it will be years before any smart investors invest any more big money. Which also means all of the weak, scared, vacation mongers who dare not venture to the dangerous Angeles will also not come back and they also won't be there to overpay and screw up the market.
This of course is good for us, as it will come back to a 500 peso buyers market. Girls will also have to work hard to lockdown the limited amount of hardcore customers still left in Angeles.
[QUOTE=Beavis;2476352]Who knows but everywhere you look in AC there are new condos being built. Not one or two but probably about 50 new condo-plexes being built all over the city. Granted the ones there now are half empty but many new ones going up. That is quite different so the result will probably not be the same. All we can do is speculate now.[/QUOTE]The condos currently in construction really don't mean anything in the context of COVID. Projects of that scale take multiple years to go forward. Anything in construction now has been in planning for several years. The thing to look at is what is happening with the construction approval process over the last six months (building permits).
[QUOTE=MasterMonger;2479906]Covid-19 Should have the opposite affect of what you said. The expensive places are the ones with the high overhead. [/QUOTE]I'd agree.
There are lots of reports of high end Walking Street Gogo girls now turning 1000 baht tricks on Soi 6 in Pattaya.
Enjoy. G.