Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1911857]Wrx2005, I wasn't intending my post for you. Though I'm not an expat, I agree with all you say. I told a friend of mine yesterday that none of what's happening in Sosua will hamper with me going to Sosua or anywhere in DR.[/QUOTE]Oh I knew you werent directing towards me. I was just noting that there are those that do come off as if the sky is falling, but it seems to come primarily from those that do not live here. On another note. It's quite apparent that chicas behavior is different towards guys that do not live here vs those that do. And men act in kind.

Chicas are very active communicating with men abroad, trying to get money, gifts, sympathy. More lies are told than you can shake a stick at. Men that don't live in the DR, many are caught up emotionally with some of these chicas, although they may deny it. Sending money WU, buying gifts, clothes, paying for all kinds of shit at the behest of the chica unloading all of her personal problems on some dude. (I know, because in the beginning when I was vacationing, I did some of that, until I wised up).

Meanwhile, it appears that expats don't get the barrage of HELP ME requests. The I'm sick, my kids are sick, my mother died, my electricity is about to get cut off, my refrigerater broke down, I have no food for me and my kids. The list is long. The chicas know you live here, they don't target expats the same. They may try. Especially with those older cats, with a shit load of money, and a bleeding heart.

For the most part. Guys that live here, and the chicas know it, they don't get hit with as much BS messages as guys that don't live here. Moreover, MOST guys that live here don't feel the need to be buying a bunch of stuff (clothes, phones, perfume etc) for these chicas. Its not like expats can't. They can get their hands on the same shit as the guys back home.

We see chicas doing quite fine without further input from guys that live in the DR. So in essence. Many guys that live here have a different mindset than many of the guys that don't live here, but feel some compulsion to go above and behind what they will be paying the chica in person. Nothing wrong with a barter exchange agreement. But very often, the effort to "make oneself feel good" giving to some of these chicas doesn't pan out to be a fair exchange. And often the guys are really being used, and the chica doesn't really appreciate the effort or the gift. They fake it, just like they may fake enjoying the guys company.

In addition, the gift giving IMO makes many dudes look like a mark, since many of these chicas have chulos, boyfriends, husbands, or a bunch of other guys sending them shit too ( sometimes duplicating what was already sent by somebody else ). At some point, a dude really doesn't know where his place in line is, and often dont really care. But you can bet after giving or sending, he'll feel like he's number one. Like I've said before. It's entertaining watching how this p4 p game is orchestrated. By everyone involved.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912058]Oh I knew you werent directing towards me. I was just noting that there are those that do come off as if the sky is falling, but it seems to come primarily from those that do not live here. On another note. It's quite apparent that chicas behavior is different towards guys that do not live here vs those that do. And men act in kind.

Chicas are very active communicating with men abroad, trying to get money, gifts, sympathy. More lies are told than you can shake a stick at. Men that don't live in the DR, many are caught up emotionally with some of these chicas, although they may deny it. Sending money WU, buying gifts, clothes, paying for all kinds of shit at the behest of the chica unloading all of her personal problems on some dude. (I know, because in the beginning when I was vacationing, I did some of that, until I wised up)..[/QUOTE]Man I'm different, in the 5 years I have been going to Sousa, I never fell for those Western Union Hustle Scams, I never understood how guys fall for working girls, you think if she bangs you for $40 that she won't bang another guy while your back in your country.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1912056]July 20,2016 Pedro Clisante, Sosua.

I had 2 meetings at Bourbon Street on Pedro Clisante one during the day and one at night and I had a chance to asses the situation on the ground.

Chez Mon Real the restaurant at the corner of Dr Rosen and Pedro Clisante is pretty slow during the day but it picks up at night. It has become a hang out spot for the chicas waiting for clients. Rumbas is still closed and there is construction (almost an entire section of the street is rubble) on the sidewalk in front and on the south side of Pedro Clisante.

Bourbon Street the restaurant across the street from Rumbas is alive and well. I went to meet a friend for dinner and there were very few places to sit inside because all the tables were mostly taken by chicas. There literally were more chicas inside sitting than men eating. Generally speaking the chicas order something but it's usually a beverage and rarely a full meal.

Merengue has there crowd between 9 pm and when they have to close at midnight during the week and at 2 am on the weekends. Chics walk between Bourbon Street and Merengue in a rotation looking for clients. Classicos now is only open on the weekend.

Basically with Rumbas closed significant numbers of chics have moved to Chez Mon Real and Bourbon Street. Later on in the night they move to Merengue and Classicos on the weekends. Pedro Clisante was closing at 6 pm but now it is open throughout the night. CESTUR (POLITUR) and Polica Nacional are still rounding up chics, I've heard they are hitting them between 500-1500 pesos. Chics are running up and down Pedro Clisante and sometimes traveling in groups holding hands.........[/QUOTE]Thanks for an on topic report that answers the real questions we have, like where are the chicas?

I am looking forward to catching a couple of these poor fugitives holding hands, and taking them back for a warm shower and a cool bed!

Soon!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1912066]Thanks for an on topic report that answers the real questions we have, like where are the chicas?

I am looking forward to catching a couple of these poor fugitives holding hands, and taking them back for a warm shower and a cool bed!

Soon![/QUOTE]I did think it was comical how they would leave Bourbon Street in 3's holding hands like that was going to somehow save them from CESTUR-POLITUR, they are very interesting to watch. I enjoyed the show.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;1911861]They can't be that hungry if the are doubling the price. They aren't doing us any favors by selling ass for $1000 to 2000 for st. If the chicas union had their way the starting price would be $100. But it doesn't work like that for them. It doesn't work like that for us. How long do you think it will take chica to convince us to start paying $100 because they are starving. Guys that have been coming here for years. Costa Rica is dead to me because of their prices. It's a shorter trip. I'm still dealing with Latina women. But the standard price is ridiculous. Sosua is what it is because of price and location. If a half starving chica can convince me that I need to pay her $100 more than she needs 1500 peso for a quick nut she is the bomb. I definitely can understand a chica trying go on prices to compensate on lost wages but really. We have to charge you more because of government is f* with us. However when things get better we'll start selling out ass cheaper again. We really don't have a choice but we are hungry and willing be do anything for our children. Like charging for more money. I bet the chicas in Puerto Plata loving the Shakedowns. With the irritations in sosua now tourists will go there spread their money. I'm sure a lot of places are already reaping the benefits. In Nagua you can pay as low as 500 pesos. That's just an hour and a half from sosua. I love sports f* I go to sosua because it has an American twist to cater to tourists. However if that went dead you can always SF in the capital. There are enough Street walkers for you to find your flavor.[/QUOTE]IMO, I think the problem with hearing chicas quoting high prices it's because of one main reason. Too many guys are ASKING, instead of TELLING these chicas what they are willing to pay. And fail to demonstrate a willingness to keep it moving if the price aint right. I see / hear it all the the time. Guy stops a chica, makes small talk and then ASKS her "how much baby? If a dude asks a chica her price, of course she is going to start high. Some guys have no problem negotiating, while others will be turned off and send her on her way.

Chicas are probably thinking if a guy asks her for a price, he don't know any better. So out comes some ridiculous price. At that point, it's up to the guy to take it or leave it. I'm pretty sure up in Classicos, if a chica tells a dude her price enough guys don't even flinch. They accept, and escort the chica back to their spot. Thats why I strongly suggest that guys stop asking chicas how much, and instead tell the chica how much he will pay. I realize some guys are afraid or concerned about offending a chica. And think asking her is being considerate towards her. It aint. In this environment it mostly makes you look less in control of the situation. And these women acknowledge (not necessarily respect) assertiveness with men they are dealing with.

BTW this also applies to other transactions. Very often you can save money by informing someone what you'll pay rather than asking how much they want. For instance, some of the local restaurants have food on display. If you order food, they will pack it for you and give you a price. Lets say, 300 pesos because you are a gringo. But SOMETIMES you can get the same quantity by telling them that you have 150/200 for food, You just might get the same amount of food, for less. It's not guaranteed, it's a suggestion. But there is definitely a strategy to dealing with locals always trying to size you up and treat you accordingly. Just got to be prepared to walk away sometimes.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1912046]It's called consistency, something you can't grasp.

Here's you:

*''*I will return to Sosua because I have a chick in Puerto Plata that I have been seeing for 9 years. Would I plan a trip with the express purpose of going to Sosua is a better question. The answer is No. Actually I have not planned a trip to Sosua for years anyway. I just usually fall through Sosua anywhere from a couple of hours to 2 days max while I am up that way - Mr E***.

So, you're DONE with Sosua, right? Same chick for 9 years too??? :)


Here's you again:

****They are about to turn the lights off in that mf. I bet now why'all are wishing that you had learned Spanish and diversified. - MR E****.

So as far as you are concerned, it's lights out in Sosua! You couldn't be more wrong pal.

So my question to you is, WTF are you doing on here anyway? Why do you want to chase Sosua visitors away with your inconsistent shit?

I stopped trying to follow your inconsistent, but circle jerk approved positions on everything from paying propina to chica to have her leave, to paying hoes, or not paying hoes, to the weird shit above about YOU fucking the same chica for 9 years, and complaining to me about the same thing :)

That took the cake, even by your fucking standards.

As for my own 1000 reports, I have discussed every aspect of the DR, the whole Island, not just getting laid, probably a lot more than most.[/QUOTE]Yes I have been fucking the same chick for 9 years, but I have made reports on countless other P4 P and non-P4 P chicks that I also fuck. I think that is the difference you are missing. I do not come on here and the only thing I have to report to ISG is well I went back and fucked the same chick again. Yep, I flirted with some bartenders, then they sent my girl messages that I was in town. So Nope. Didn't fuck anybody else. Don't even know how much other chicks are even charging. I am happy with just her and handing my wallet and its contents over to her for my entire trip as soon as I get ratted out or she meets me at the airport with a cold beer.

Also there is a difference between planning a trip somewhere and falling through somewhere. There is the mall that I grew up going to close to my mom's house. It is a shell of its former self. I would never leave my house with the express purpose of going there, but while I am in the neighborhood (over at my mom's house) I may fall through there.

Not worth shopping there anymore. Have plenty of memories there and may even get a bite to eat for old time sake while I am there. But I would not advise a friend or a relative that they must leave their home across town one afternoon and go check this mall out. I would advise them to go to better malls in other areas such as Rio and Bangkok, that other posters have pointed out are in a way better league than the mall called Sosua. However, if you happen to be in the area then sure, swing by Sosua mall and check it out. But if Sosua mall is all you know, and you are content with doing your shopping there, then as they say, ignorance is bliss.

This is ISG. If you are only discussing things other than getting laid, there is a DR1 and a tripadvisor for that.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912072]IMO, I think the problem with hearing chicas quoting high prices it's because of one main reason. Too many guys are ASKING, instead of TELLING these chicas what they are willing to pay. And fail to demonstrate a willingness to keep it moving if the price aint right. I see / hear it all the the time. Guy stops a chica, makes small talk and then ASKS her "how much baby? If a dude asks a chica her price, of course she is going to start high. Some guys have no problem negotiating, while others will be turned off and send her on her way.[/QUOTE]I agree with that. I posted an example in the Pattaya thread last week of a chick even telling me exactly what you just said. I asked her how much she wanted, so she told me how much she wanted, not how much she was willing to go for.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1907706]This is a prime example of what I have always preached. I met this chick some time ago, but never fucked her. She started out wanting 2000-3000 but easily went down to 1000 for all night. Easy as pie. None of that breaking the mood shit that people say. Hell, my mood gets even better when I can strike a deal like that.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1912114]Yes I have been fucking the same chick for 9 years, but I have made reports on countless other P4 P and non-P4 P chicks that I also fuck. I think that is the difference you are missing. I do not come on here and the only thing I have to report to ISG is well I went back and fucked the same chick again. Yep, I flirted with some bartenders, then they sent my girl messages that I was in town. So Nope. Didn't fuck anybody else. Don't even know how much other chicks are even charging. I am happy with just her and handing my wallet and its contents over to her for my entire trip as soon as I get ratted out or she meets me at the airport with a cold beer.

Also there is a difference between planning a trip somewhere and falling through somewhere. There is the mall that I grew up going to close to my mom's house. It is a shell of its former self. I would never leave my house with the express purpose of going there, but while I am in the neighborhood (over at my mom's house) I may fall through there.

Not worth shopping there anymore. Have plenty of memories there and may even get a bite to eat for old time sake while I am there. But I would not advise a friend or a relative that they must leave their home across town one afternoon and go check this mall out. I would advise them to go to better malls in other areas such as Rio and Bangkok, that other posters have pointed out are in a way better league than the mall called Sosua. However, if you happen to be in the area then sure, swing by Sosua mall and check it out. But if Sosua mall is all you know, and you are content with doing your shopping there, then as they say, ignorance is bliss.

This is ISG. If you are only discussing things other than getting laid, there is a DR1 and a tripadvisor for that.[/QUOTE]I don't write for you, nor do I need your approval.

If you want to be a moderator, get your own fucking blog!

I write about Sosua and my excellent adventures there, to encourage others to also have a good time there. The feedback I receive tells me it works!

(I do fuck other chicas when I'm there, most of the time, but as I say, fucking street hookers gets boring for me after a couple days, Enter Princessa!

I don't give a shit about your mother and her mall.

My mother told me to stay away from places I didn't like.

And support the places, like Sosua, which has been so good to me over the years.

You vote with your feet, and your dinero.

I am anonymous, so I can say what I really think.

The problem with you, is that you are not, and hang personally with a group here, so you have to make sure your bullshit with me, fits in with the bullshit you've told them over the years.

That's why you're dancing and excusing all the time why you HAVE to be in Sosua, or even some MF mall, nobody gives a shit about.

I don't excuses, or need to change a thing. I have a helluva time there.

Love it or leave it!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912072]IMO, I think the problem with hearing chicas quoting high prices it's because of one main reason. Too many guys are ASKING, instead of TELLING these chicas what they are willing to pay. [/QUOTE]Kudos! Now here is a solid piece of insight: Tell and not ask. Sosua primarily catering to those from East Coast US, have many people who know little outside of their home towns, that want an ironclad contract before taking a woman back to bed. Go figure!

I also thought your comment on the non-resident guys lamenting on "sky is falling" very much on the point as is manifest on this forum. Useless chatter!

Personally, I am very pleased with the DR (not only Sosua but I do love its multicultural cuisine). Who wants to fly for 24 hours, nah. Been there done that. Long live the DR, warts (that are continuously being discussed, ad nausea) and all!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912072]IMO, I think the problem with hearing chicas quoting high prices it's because of one main reason. Too many guys are ASKING, instead of TELLING these chicas what they are willing to pay. And fail to demonstrate a willingness to keep it moving if the price aint right. I see / hear it all the the time. Guy stops a chica, makes small talk and then ASKS her "how much baby? If a dude asks a chica her price, of course she is going to start high. Some guys have no problem negotiating, while others will be turned off and send her on her way.[/QUOTE]I agree. Too many fellas have no negotiation skills and the girls know this. For example, you ask a chica "how much"? Many are smart enough to get you to quote first so she can counter.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912058]It's entertaining watching how this p4 p game is orchestrated. By everyone involved.[/QUOTE]I agree. Many people I know visiting and expats are suckered into the emotional trap.

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1912163]I agree. Many people I know visiting and expats are suckered into the emotional trap.[/QUOTE]The emotional "trap" you speak of, is the main constituent of a "girl friend" experience. You can do without it but it is like "wham bam, thank (y) ma'am".

One reason I like the DR (and perhaps places like Colombia or Peru are similar), is that sex is of a superior quality perhaps because of the "emotional" component, based on my decades long experience around the Globe. Quality vs. Quantity! Your choice obviously as to what you want.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1912061]Man I'm different, in the 5 years I have been going to Sousa, I never fell for those Western Union Hustle Scams, I never understood how guys fall for working girls, you think if she bangs you for $40 that she won't bang another guy while your back in your country.[/QUOTE]One fun thing to do is to "one-up" them with your faked-fucked up situation:

Chica: "Baby, I need money for food".

You: "I know what you mean. My mother's uncle's great uncle's cousin has a cancerous tumor on the back of his left knee cap that is spreading to his right ass cheek and is in the hospital. It's a very expensive treatment. We are having to help him financially because his dog ate his social security card. Please pray for him."

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1912061]Man I'm different, in the 5 years I have been going to Sousa, I never fell for those Western Union Hustle Scams, I never understood how guys fall for working girls, you think if she bangs you for $40 that she won't bang another guy while your back in your country.[/QUOTE]But dig bro. It ain't always about being scammed. A lot of guys may do things without being requested to do so because they may feel good doing it. And enough cats like myself did things back then knowing full well the chicas are fucking other dudes. If a request was made, a dude may be suspicious or know it's BS but decide to consider it an advance until he got there. It may be a Chica he repeats with. That rationale may be an error in judgement and totally unnecessary, but it's not necessarily being scammed. Now for those that rose above that mindset. Try to understand. And see how sharing with others can be helpful to the next guy caught up but senses something's wrong.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1912061]Man I'm different, in the 5 years I have been going to Sousa, I never fell for those Western Union Hustle Scams, I never understood how guys fall for working girls, you think if she bangs you for $40 that she won't bang another guy while your back in your country.[/QUOTE]You never "understood", because you don't uinderstand the game.

There are some guys, mostly European, generally married to some hag, with enough money, that fall in love / lust with a young beautiful girl, and when she tells him she'll be just for him, he buys into it.

He'll send her money every week, buy her a motoconcho, car, and maybe pay rent for an apartment or even buy a condo for her (maybe Momma too) It's not the norm, but it is the scenario a lot of the chicas have seen, and it becomes their dream, while they are still young and fresh enough to pull it off. He's smart enough to have Mr GG's "eyes on the ground" to keep her at home with Momma and the baby (he may have more than one).

It's peanuts to a married businessman from Europe, but it's the world to a chica.

It's doesn't happen with us folks who post here, we want change for a 100 peso note at the bar.

But that is going on as we speak, and it helps you understand the culture.

Mongers only live in a mongering world, but there's lot more going on out there besides mongering.

As some of our noted vets here agree, Sosua is not just for mongers :)