Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912253]But dig bro. It ain't always about being scammed. A lot of guys may do things without being requested to do so because they may feel good doing it.[/QUOTE]I think you are right. I never fully realized that until a couple of months ago when a chick in the Philippines let me see her Whatsapp. One guy said he opened a bank account for her and would bring the ATM card with him next time so he would not have to send money; he could just deposit it for her to take out. (Indian guy). Other guys talked about when they would send money and how much they would send.

This chick said she never asked any of them for shit, but they insisted. She said they want to do it to try to get her to stay out of the street, but she said she is young (18) so she is going to be out anyway. Now she has an engagement ring on (whether it is a real diamond or not who knows) (Black American guy that looks like my twin). I did a threesome with her and her real sister 2 nights ago.

A few years ago when the iPhone 4 came out I remember a chick in Thailand having one. I told her she was very high class. She said she didn't like it and didn't even want the damn phone in the first place, but her boyfriend insisted on buying it. (White Australian guy).

And there is my good buddy who moved from Sosua to Philippines. He is an old retired guy living from check to check. When he got here he got involved with a chick for a few months then the chick died. I wanted him to come visit me in Thailand but he could not because he said he was taking care of his dead girlfriend's daughters. I checked him right there and told him that was not his responsibility. He got all pissy with me about it. The other day he tells me come to find out the chick did not die and he gave away more than $1000 on some bullshit (70+ Black American guy). You know what I said. I told ya. I told ya.

And there are all the guys who buy the chicks in Thailand businesses, houses, condos, cars, and motorbikes every week. That shit knows no race, nor nationality, nor financial boundries. Any guy with a dick will do it.

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And there are all the guys who buy the chicks in Thailand businesses, houses, condos, cars, and motorbikes every week. That shit knows no race, nor nationality, nor financial boundries. Any guy with a dick will do it.[/QUOTE]Some guys get off on knowing their girl is fucking other men. There is an entire category on most porn sites for Cuckhold porn.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1912333]Some guys get off on knowing their girl is fucking other men. There is an entire category on most porn sites for Cuckhold porn.[/QUOTE]True, but that isn't the issue for the WU novios. They're the dragon slayer, the white knight, the saviour. In a lot of cases, they are never even seeing the woman. It's only through Skype or Whatsapp. I almost think they believe the only way to get love is to buy it. Many of them, if they find out someone else is sending money to their girl, they'll send larger amounts.

Doesn't make sense to me. If you want to support her, marry her and at least get something out of the arrangement.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1912356]If you want to support her, marry her and at least get something out of the arrangement.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, but with all due respect, are you out of your fucking mind? What you'll get out of the "arrangement" of marriage is [B]screwed[/B]. Plus a lot of the Captain Save A Hos are married which precludes them from marrying the sugar baby.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1912196]The emotional "trap" you speak of, is the main constituent of a "girl friend" experience. You can do without it but it is like "wham bam, thank (y) ma'am".

One reason I like the DR (and perhaps places like Colombia or Peru are similar), is that sex is of a superior quality perhaps because of the "emotional" component, based on my decades long experience around the Globe. Quality vs. Quantity! Your choice obviously as to what you want.[/QUOTE]I feel ya. I'm 57 never married and no kids. When I left home at 18 to explore the world I had a saying, "FFF-Find'them, Fuck'them and Forget'them. " Hence, I have a passport since 20-years old, and I spread my practice world-wide. Thank you very much!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1912318]And there is my good buddy who moved from Sosua to Philippines. He is an old retired guy living from check to check. When he got here he got involved with a chick for a few months then the chick died. I wanted him to come visit me in Thailand but he could not because he said he was taking care of his dead girlfriend's daughters. I checked him right there and told him that was not his responsibility. He got all pissy with me about it. The other day he tells me come to find out the chick did not die and he gave away more than $1000 on some bullshit (70+ Black American guy). You know what I said. I told ya. I told ya.[/QUOTE]Yeah, and I'm pretty sure I know who you are talking about. Ironically though, I think he got a little bit of con / scam artist tendencies himself. He tried to get me to loan him money for some BS. I wasnt even there 24 hrs, when he attempted to hit me up. Later, claimed he had the money in the bank all along, but just did not want to pay the ATM fees. Of course he didn't mind me having to pay ATM fees in order to loan him the money.

Not surprisingly, he claimed the loan was so he could help one of his chicas. I didn't loan him the money and he must have had a problem with that, because I barely saw him the rest of my trip, except one night he made himself available to have a meal that I was treating him to. After that, haven't spoken to him since. And to be honest, I'm not sure I would have got paid back if I did loan him the money. He lives there. It would have been real easy for him to make up an excuse of why he couldn't pay me back. But I eliminated all of that, by not buying into loaning a grown ass man money. Especially under those circumstances.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1912356]True, but that isn't the issue for the WU novios. They're the dragon slayer, the white knight, the saviour. In a lot of cases, they are never even seeing the woman. It's only through Skype or Whatsapp. I almost think they believe the only way to get love is to buy it. Many of them, if they find out someone else is sending money to their girl, they'll send larger amounts.

Doesn't make sense to me. If you want to support her, marry her and at least get something out of the arrangement.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be better to just get on a plane from tiime to time to get with the recipient of that support, and "get something" out of it, rather than marry the woman to supposedly "get something" ? IMO it may be cheaper in the long run visiting the recipient, than marrying her just to get the same arrangement.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1912404]I'm sorry, but with all due respect, are you out of your fucking mind? What you'll get out of the "arrangement" of marriage is [B]screwed[/B]. Plus a lot of the Captain Save A Hos are married which precludes them from marrying the sugar baby.[/QUOTE]I hear ya. Never married, and never will marry. And would never even entertain the idea. Not even in the DR. Men get screwed here just as bad as other places in the world. In fact, you don't have to marry a woman in the DR to get screwed, just live with her long enough where she may be entitled to shit if you decide to cut her loose.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912575]Wouldn't it be better to just get on a plane from tiime to time to get with the recipient of that support, and "get something" out of it, rather than marry the woman to supposedly "get something" ? IMO it may be cheaper in the long run visiting the recipient, than marrying her just to get the same arrangement.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure it would be cheaper. If a guy is already sending $1000- $5000/ month, flying back and forth just adds to the expense. He's at least getting something, but just breaking even. It's about supporting and taking care of the girl for these men, not about fucking her. Visiting and staying with her, experiencing the real standard of living, might just cost him more, when he decides she needs air conditioning, new appliances, new furniture, a new house, etc.

[QUOTE]I hear ya. Never married, and never will marry. And would never even entertain the idea. Not even in the DR. Men get screwed here just as bad as other places in the world. In fact, you don't have to marry a woman in the DR to get screwed, just live with her long enough where she may be entitled to shit if you decide to cut her loose.[/QUOTE]Keep in mind we're talking about guys who believe in fairy tales. They believe, month after month, the sick kid, mother, uncle stories. They believe "por favor Papi" and "solo para ti. " They believe in happily ever after. Marrying their WU novia means they will most likely get screwed, but there are some benefits.

First, she's stuck with him until she meets the local residency requirements, so she'll be on good behavior for awhile. Plus she'll be experiencing culture shock. Next, it should reduce the amount being sent to whatever country she's from (depending on the sick mother, sister, uncle situation). He will probably end up spending the same or less.

Most importantly, he gets an education. Once the fairy tale ends, it's unlikely that he will fall into the same trap again. Otherwise, he'll support her until she gets married (or longer if she marries a Dominican), then he'll support her daughter, niece, cousin or whoever is next in line to play "fleece the gringo. ".

And just maybe they'll live happily ever after, but I don't believe in fairy tales.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1912604]I'm not sure it would be cheaper. If a guy is already sending $1000- $5000/ month, flying back and forth just adds to the expense. He's at least getting something, but just breaking even. It's about supporting and taking care of the girl for these men, not about fucking her. Visiting and staying with her, experiencing the real standard of living, might just cost him more, when he decides she needs air conditioning, new appliances, new furniture, a new house, etc.[/QUOTE]Ok. You arent sure it would be cheaper if the guy is flying back and forth, it just adds to the expense. So you must be under the assumption that marrying a chick in the DR is a better option? I don't think so.

Could you explain this please?

Because in my mind, once you marry a chick you may end up having to pay more. Now you have a legal liability on your hands. You may even have more of her family members to support , and acquire enough assets ( while married to her ) that she may have access to legally. In the short and long run. A guy only sending money, decides he no longer desires to support some chick, he can easily walk away. He's done paying. NOT necessarily so if he marries the woman. IMO the financial and legal hell a man may go through trying to divorce a chick would be more costly than if he had just stuck to flying back and forth a few times a year.

You claim some of these men arent about fucking them. Please explain then why those men would marry them, and what do they supposedly gain by marrying them, if they aint fucking them? Thats the part of your position that's unclear to me.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912662]Because in my mind, once you marry a chick you may end up having to pay more.[/QUOTE]You don't never marry a broke female from a broke family, even if she's a martian. Why do that in the DR or any where. Gaining debt and family of liabilities is foolish. In America and Western culture they brainwash men to carry the burden. The key word here is "burden. ".

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1912662]Ok. You arent sure it would be cheaper if the guy is flying back and forth, it just adds to the expense. So you must be under the assumption that marrying a chick in the DR is a better option? I don't think so.

Could you explain this please?[/QUOTE]There is no "better" option. Once you're supporting a stranger in a third world country, the only option is to stop supporting a stranger in a third world country. Marrying a chick in the DR isn't a good option, just like the doctor telling you he has to cut off your balls or you will die, is not a good option. It will completely fuck up your life, but it may cure the other problem.

[QUOTE]Because in my mind, once you marry a chick you may end up having to pay more. Now you have a legal liability on your hands. You may even have more of her family members to support , and acquire enough assets ( while married to her ) that she may have access to legally. In the short and long run. A guy only sending money, decides he no longer desires to support some chick, he can easily walk away. He's done paying. NOT necessarily so if he marries the woman. IMO the financial and legal hell a man may go through trying to divorce a chick would be more costly than if he had just stuck to flying back and forth a few times a year. [/QUOTE]You're absolutely right, but I'm guessing you're not the sort of person who would send money every month, for years, unless there was frequent and very big payoffs. Something along the lines of getting a virgin on her 18th birthday every month. That's what I'm holding out for.

[QUOTE]You claim some of these men arent about fucking them. Please explain then why those men would marry them, and what do they supposedly gain by marrying them, if they aint fucking them? Thats the part of your position that's unclear to me.[/QUOTE]It's unclear to me too, because I can't understand running down to Western Union every time a Chica sends a "Papi please" message. I can't relate to the guy spending $100 k US on a woman he has never met, but there are plenty who do it. Often they bankrupt themselves doing it.

It gets complicated, but let's do the math. For this example we'll use someone I know of, who spends about $8000 US / month on a foreign girl, that's cash and gifts. He's never met her, she has 1 sister, a mother and no kids. The mother works, the sister is in college. He's been spending that amount on her for about 2 1/2 years, roughly $240,000 US total.

Assuming she doesn't marry, or tell him to stop sending her money, she's probably good for another 5-10 years, meaning he will have spent between $0. 75- $1. 25 Million US, without ever so much as kissing her on the cheek. Why? At this point in my life, I'm not taking a woman out to dinner twice if there's no payoff, yet this guy and many others are throwing money.

Because being the provider is the biggest part of their fantasy. In their world, they've taken the little beggar girl and made her a princess. It's Pretty Woman, turning a hooker into a debutante. All most of us are interested in doing is turning a hooker into a hooker with a salty taste in her mouth.

He could fly down several times a year and get laid, but keep in mind, 30 months and $240 k in, sex hasn't been a priority. If he visits, will it spoil his fantasy?

Absolutely marrying her would be a mistake and it would be an expensive mistake, but how expensive? Would it cost more than what he will spend on fantasy girls over the next 20 years? Why would he marry her? It's the final scene in all the fairy tales.

None of this makes sense in the real world, but if you're living in the real world you don't spend enough to support 20 third world families on a woman you've never met. You're trying to force a rational outcome on a series of irrational acts.

None of this is a good thing. None of us are saving anyone. The money we spend getting a nut does at least as much harm as good, same with the money spent by the WU warriors. Most of us enjoy the moments and try not to think about the rest. The people I've been talking about are the ones who honestly believe they are saving someone, they are making the world a better place. Maybe if a few of them went through nasty expensive divorces from the sweet, innocent leeches, they will wake up and realize, it's not about saving the world. It's not about making a difference.

It's just about getting a good fucking for a fair price.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1912697]There is no "better" option. Once you're supporting a stranger in a third world country, the only option is to stop supporting a stranger in a third world country. Marrying a chick in the DR isn't a good option, just like the doctor telling you he has to cut off your balls or you will die, is not a good option. It will completely fuck up your life, but it may cure the other problem.

You're absolutely right, but I'm guessing you're not the sort of person who would send money every month, for years, unless there was frequent and very big payoffs. Something along the lines of getting a virgin on her 18th birthday every month. That's what I'm holding out for.

It's unclear to me too, because I can't understand running down to Western Union every time a Chica sends a "Papi please" message. I can't relate to the guy spending $100 k US on a woman he has never met, but there are plenty who do it. Often they bankrupt themselves doing it.[/QUOTE]I think its pointless and ridiculous to send western union money to girls that live thousands of miles away in countries like DR. A lot of mongers don't understand that if you want to be a sugar daddy, There are plenty of hot young girls that have student loans and have all kind of bills in the United States. If your going to send $200-$300 a month to DR, You can take that money and spend it on a typical hot 18-19 Year old College Student in the USA. At least you will get the pussy every week and don't have to wait months and use Whatsapp and Skype. I know young girls right now on Instagram, that are fucking dudes for the new pair of Jordan or a new designer bag. So if your going to throw money in the garbage, you can be a sugar daddy's, there plenty of hot girls that want one. No need to spend your hard earn money on a chick from a 3rd World Country, flying to places like DR should be for married guys or guys that are sport fuckers, Never try to have no serious long distance relationship, even if the girl is not a prostitute. Long distance relationships never work.

[QUOTE=IpanemaCarioca;1912686]You don't never marry a broke female from a broke family, even if she's a martian. Why do that in the DR or any where. Gaining debt and family of liabilities is foolish. In America and Western culture they brainwash men to carry the burden. The key word here is "burden. ".[/QUOTE]Whenever a chick asks me why I am not married or why I do not want to get married, I pose this question to them. What would it benefit me to get married? I have money, I have a house, I have a car, I have a kid who is an adult, I know how to cook and clean and I don't have any bills. As of yet nobody has even attempted to answer the question. They are usually just like yeah you are right. No reason for you to get married.

Marriage is for young people who don't have shit and still believe in the fairy tale of building something and having a family together. I am well past that stage. In any type of relationship each person should be getting benefits from it. I don't consider pussy any special type of benefit because I can get that anywhere and anytime. Like you are getting at, don't get into a relationship to have more of a burden than you would have had you not entered into one. And marrying a broke female from a broke family is doing exactly that.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1912697]It's unclear to me too, because I can't understand running down to Western Union every time a Chica sends a "Papi please" message. I can't relate to the guy spending $100 k US on a woman he has never met, but there are plenty who do it. Often they bankrupt themselves doing it.

It gets complicated, but let's do the math. For this example we'll use someone I know of, who spends about $8000 US / month on a foreign girl, that's cash and gifts. He's never met her, she has 1 sister, a mother and no kids. The mother works, the sister is in college. He's been spending that amount on her for about 2 1/2 years, roughly $240,000 US total.[/QUOTE]He is going to shit bricks when he finds out this chick is really a dude. Why wouldn't he just take some of that money to at least go meet the person he is sending all this money to?

With Classicos open 2 nights a week what happens the rest of the week. There is no draw in town now. Everyone will become weekend warriors. Guys will be making decisions on whether there is enough to do. I enjoyed my self without the late night activity. I think sosua can still work but everyone is going have a new mode of operation. The girls are there we just need a place to go to meet them. Rumor has it Rumbas will open in a week. This could be the key to non weekend fun. The sad thing is that the city elders will fail to accomplish their goal of making the city less torrid for natives. If they had pushed back the opening times of bars everyone could win. A sun down opening could have been a win win.