Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=OldKool;1912867]With Classicos open 2 nights a week what happens the rest of the week. There is no draw in town now. Everyone will become weekend warriors. Guys will be making decisions on whether there is enough to do. I enjoyed my self without the late night activity. I think sosua can still work but everyone is going have a new mode of operation. The girls are there we just need a place to go to meet them. Rumor has it Rumbas will open in a week. This could be the key to non weekend fun. The sad thing is that the city elders will fail to accomplish their goal of making the city less torrid for natives. If they had pushed back the opening times of bars everyone could win. A sun down opening could have been a win win.[/QUOTE]Adjustments are ongoing. I just chatted with a prominent member from this board and guys are distancing themselves from the week warriors and making moves. Even as I sit here now writing from the Piano bar on the strip in Boca Chica its twice the number of brothers here as last weekend.

I feel sorry for the dudes who visited last year and have been hyping their boys for a year to save up and take a trip. They will be a hyped on the Wednesday plane ride then get to Sosua and see women pushing strollers and fat girls LOL. They are going to be pissed.

I won't call everyone who believes in a motivation to clean up the town a fool since the truth is on a completely another level. The motives are different and do not originate from the North Coast. This clean up show is going to pass like the previous ones in due order and the forces behind it are also going to pass.

Just found out that someone murdered the Gay guy who sells panties around Sosua. For us that knew him we called him Pantyman. Always had a smile and was diligent about his hustle. I spent quite a bit of money over the years buying panties for my chicas. He was strangled in an apartment in Puerto Plata. He will be missed. Sad8.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1912867]With Classicos open 2 nights a week what happens the rest of the week. There is no draw in town now. Everyone will become weekend warriors. Guys will be making decisions on whether there is enough to do. I enjoyed my self without the late night activity. I think sosua can still work but everyone is going have a new mode of operation. The girls are there we just need a place to go to meet them. Rumor has it Rumbas will open in a week. This could be the key to non weekend fun. The sad thing is that the city elders will fail to accomplish their goal of making the city less torrid for natives. If they had pushed back the opening times of bars everyone could win. A sun down opening could have been a win win.[/QUOTE]Classico is open every night. The problem are the closing times Sun to Thursday closed at midnight. Lights on at 11:45.

Friday and Saturday open til 2 am.

[QUOTE]Doesn't make sense to me. If you want to support her, marry her and at least get something out of the arrangement.[/QUOTE]I just want to know what is the something he is supposedly getting out of the arrangement, that you were referring to? You made the above statement to presuppose that if a guy chose to support the woman, marrying her would allow him to get something out of that arrangement. It can't be that complicated to give examples of that? What I mean is, if a guy was to come to the same conclusion that marrying her would result in getting something out of it, the guy should know what that is.

I'm not talking about what you or me might think he will learn as a lesson. Nor do we need to go over the cost to benefit ratio. I'm talking about whatever "get something out of the arrangement" is that you were alluding to by marrying the woman. I realize you may not want to quantify one situation as being better than the other, but you presupposed it when you said he should at least get something out of the arrangement. As opposed to sending money and not getting anything out of it. To put it another way, what is he not getting by sending her money, and what is he getting (or could get) by marrying her instead?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1912806]Whenever a chick asks me why I am not married or why I do not want to get married, I pose this question to them. What would it benefit me to get married? I have money, I have a house, I have a car, I have a kid who is an adult, I know how to cook and clean and I don't have any bills. As of yet nobody has even attempted to answer the question. They are usually just like yeah you are right. No reason for you to get married.[/QUOTE]Trying to get somebody to explain the benefits of legal marriage, is like pulling teeth. And often individuals talk as if marriage has benefits, but when you ask them what they are, they can't or won't tell you. Most of their examples, are not exclusive to married individuals / couples. Living together or alone, un married individuals can and do just about everything married folks do.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1912798]A lot of mongers don't understand that if you want to be a sugar daddy, There are plenty of hot young girls that have student loans and have all kind of bills in the United States. If your going to send $200-$300 a month to DR, You can take that money and spend it on a typical hot 18-19 Year old College Student in the USA. At least you will get the pussy every week and don't have to wait months and use Whatsapp and Skype. I know young girls right now on Instagram, that are fucking dudes for the new pair of Jordan or a new designer bag. So if your going to throw money in the garbage, you can be a sugar daddy's, there plenty of hot girls that want one. .[/QUOTE]You really ought to repost this on the USA board, along with more details about the best college towns to visit, as this fact seems to be little known. I imagine thousands of men from Europe might want to visit the US if they knew how easy this was. They could probably fly in with fake Jordans and designer bags and have these teenage girls totally at their disposal for pocket change. Or even buy the real thing--still a bargain. Also you could explain how you found these girls on Instagram and how they told you they were fucking dudes for a new pair of Jordan's. That in itself would be an interesting story.

Last Monday and Tuesday, it seemed rather slow on the strip. We all know why. But this past Wednesday and up to now, I lot of guys have rolled into town. Many walking around in groups of 2 to 6. More chicas have arrived, and started filling up the local hotels / rooms where they stay. I recall last Thurs, about 5 chicas stepping out of a van and all going down that corridor next to the little liquor store near Rumba on PC. Whatever bar / restaurant that is available, this is where many chicas are setting up shop. The rest are on patrol walking around looking for clients, and trying to avoid police. We will see what happens Monday and Tuesday coming up. How many chicas and mongers leave town. And a new set for the up coming weekend.

Friday Classicos was packed, I'm told. I imagine last night it was too. Along with Merengue being the staging area for enough chicas to hang out until heading up, or seeking refuge from the crowd in Classico. I was thinking. About how locals tend to behave when ever there is some kind of commotion, accident, or excitement going down. They don't run from it, they run towards it. It's like they are addicted to drama. And so I thought. Maybe all of this hoopla over trying to clean up the town isn't going to drive chicas away. Instead it may draw them towards Sosua. Because of the excitement from all of this supposed crackdown. Many may be hyped about all of this drama, and consider it a challenge to come to Sosua. The risk of being caught out in the street, having to sneak around. Perhaps seeing this as an opportunity to score heavily on their potential clients. Perhaps thinking a guy might pay $100 or more if he thinks his paradise will vanish if he doesn't pay a premium to preserve it.

Besides, what's the penalty fora chica getting caught? Having to suck the colonels dick? Pay 500 to 1500 pesos and get out of jail? Are any of these women concerned about having an arrest record? Of course not. They are usually back on the street within the hour or next day. And if anybody is paying attention, the police are selective in who they grab anyway. The more nicer looking chicas, or well connected with the police, they don't get touched.

The chicas that get picked on the most, are Haitian chicas, and then the hoodrat / average looking chicas. Especially newbies that just came on the scene. It's not likely you'll see a 8,9 or 10 veteran looking chica, or one that looks and carries herself well being picked up. These chicas know how to play the game though. They act like they are afraid to walk down the street unescorted. But I believe that is just an act. They already know they won't be touched. A couple of chicas come to mind. These women have cars, and park right on PC. Out of respect for the Politur, they will move out of the way, so it looks like the police arent playing favorites.

My main point as far as chicas are concerned; the arrests do not amount to anything. Chica gets arrested, so what? There is no threat to a chica other than her being taken out of play for a little while. It would be a win/win if the arrests or threat of arrest resulted in more chicas being open to what many of us may consider fair compensation for services. Or for those who prefer TLN, enjoy it with a willing chica not expecting a windfall.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1913086]Trying to get somebody to explain the benefits of legal marriage, is like pulling teeth. And often individuals talk as if marriage has benefits, but when you ask them what they are, they can't or won't tell you. Most of their examples, are not exclusive to married individuals / couples. Living together or alone, un married individuals can and do just about everything married folks do.[/QUOTE]You should see the movie Green Card. Also in the US and other countries marital status often affects things like health insurance status, tax status, deductions for children, social security benefits can be doubled if there are children under the age of 18, automobile insurance, and so on. If the wife is stay-at-home the husband can more than double his tax deduction for federal and state income taxes. Additionally, in the US, if you wanted to hire a live-in housekeeper, you would have to pay minimum wage, overtime, social security employers contributions, and so on. As a wife, the woman would not be subject to any of those things.

So, for example, while a live-in nanny is easily affordable in the DR, much less so in the US.

Marriage also affects the citizenship of children. For example if a US man has a child with a Dominican woman, if they are married the child will be able to qualify for automatic US citizenship (and run for president). If the couple are not married, the children may still be able to obtain US status, but it is a more complex process, making it harder to get Social Security numbers for the child, and the non wife will not qualify for joint tax filing.

If the wife obtains an immigrant visa to the US via her married status, then her minor children can also get the same thing and obtain Green Cards and Social Security numbers, attend school for free in the US, and so on.

So there are some differences, but the advantages of marriage are obviously greatly reduced if there are no children or step children involved.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1913064]I just want to know what is the something he is supposedly getting out of the arrangement, that you were referring to? You made the above statement to presuppose that if a guy chose to support the woman, marrying her would allow him to get something out of that arrangement. It can't be that complicated to give examples of that? What I mean is, if a guy was to come to the same conclusion that marrying her would result in getting something out of it, the guy should know what that is.

I'm not talking about what you or me might think he will learn as a lesson. Nor do we need to go over the cost to benefit ratio. I'm talking about whatever "get something out of the arrangement" is that you were alluding to by marrying the woman. I realize you may not want to quantify one situation as being better than the other, but you presupposed it when you said he should at least get something out of the arrangement. As opposed to sending money and not getting anything out of it. To put it another way, what is he not getting by sending her money, and what is he getting (or could get) by marrying her instead?[/QUOTE]If I've already explained it at least 3 times and you either failed to read, or failed to understand, do you think that a fourth attempt will be any more successful?

Last try.

1. Some of the men, specifically the ones spending a lot of money (by US cost of living standards) on girls in foreign countries, without ever visiting, have an over-romanticized view of the supporter / supportee relationship.

2. The main benefit they receive is a pleasure from being the savior, the white knight, the fairy tale Prince.

3. In regards to the relationship, they are living in a fairy tale. In the real world, nobody believes a woman they've never met is going to remain pure and faithful.

4. In fairy tales involving a man and a woman, the ending is always, they get married and live happily ever after. In the US (and probably much of the world) marriage is considered by many to be the ultimate act of support. This is a widely held subjective belief, not an objective fact.

So:

Man considers himself fairy tale Prince.

Man considers girl fairy tale Princess.

Man enjoys act of supporting Princess.

Marriage is top level of support.

Therefore.

Marriage to Princess = win the game.

Marriage to Princess = happy ending.

Marriage to Princess = fairy tale comes true.

Because in the fairy tales, the Prince doesn't go fuck the Princess every 2 or 3 months. He doesn't get a BBBJ followed by CFS with MISH, RCG and Doggy and finishing with COF. He rescues the Princess, takes her to his castle, marries her and they live happily ever after.

As I'm getting tired of saying, none of these are benefits in the real world. Marriage does not equal happily ever after. All of this only works if you are living in this particular fairy tale. The Prince can't go fuck the Princess, it ruins the fairy tale. He has to follow the script and marry her first.

Do you you finally understand? I've been discussing a fantasy benefit for a deluded person in a make-believe relationship. There's no real world connection, no magic wand, no fairy godmother.

In the real world you don't send $1000's every month to a stranger, you don't pay for medicine for her sick mother, kid or goat, you don't carry on a multi-year long distance relationship with no physical component and you don't marry a puta. In the real world, the only benefits to marriage are subjective and personal to the people who are getting married.

It's like anal sex: some people think it's great, but mostly it's just a pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1913112]You should see the movie Green Card. Also in the US and other countries marital status often affects things like health insurance status, tax status, deductions for children, social security benefits can be doubled if there are children under the age of 18, automobile insurance, and so on. If the wife is stay-at-home the husband can more than double his tax deduction for federal and state income taxes. Additionally, in the US, if you wanted to hire a live-in housekeeper, you would have to pay minimum wage, overtime, social security employers contributions, and so on. As a wife, the woman would not be subject to any of those things.

So, for example, while a live-in nanny is easily affordable in the DR, much less so in the US.

Marriage also affects the citizenship of children. For example if a US man has a child with a Dominican woman, if they are married the child will be able to qualify for automatic US citizenship (and run for president). If the couple are not married, the children may still be able to obtain US status, but it is a more complex process, making it harder to get Social Security numbers for the child, and the non wife will not qualify for joint tax filing.

If the wife obtains an immigrant visa to the US via her married status, then her minor children can also get the same thing and obtain Green Cards and Social Security numbers, attend school for free in the US, and so on.

So there are some differences, but the advantages of marriage are obviously greatly reduced if there are no children or step children involved.[/QUOTE]Really Frannie? Now explain to me the tax or other benefits and deductions for that same individual who is now divorcing? After you put things in their proper perspective, those things you mentioned were never benefits of marriage. They were incentives designed to fool some sap into signing up into a system to get fucked. The things you mentioned are things that makes an individual not thinking straight believe he is actually going to get something by being married. What you get is the reverse mortgage effect of marriage deal. Enjoy some now, and pay dearly later plan. In the long run, marriage does not IMO pan out as a benefit that supercedes the comfort zone of being unmarried.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1912798]I think its pointless and ridiculous to send western union money to girls that live thousands of miles away in countries like DR. A lot of mongers don't understand that if you want to be a sugar daddy, There are plenty of hot young girls that have student loans and have all kind of bills in the United States. If your going to send $200-$300 a month to DR, You can take that money and spend it on a typical hot 18-19 Year old College Student in the USA. At least you will get the pussy every week and don't have to wait months and use Whatsapp and Skype. I know young girls right now on Instagram, that are fucking dudes for the new pair of Jordan or a new designer bag. So if your going to throw money in the garbage, you can be a sugar daddy's, there plenty of hot girls that want one. No need to spend your hard earn money on a chick from a 3rd World Country, flying to places like DR should be for married guys or guys that are sport fuckers, Never try to have no serious long distance relationship, even if the girl is not a prostitute. Long distance relationships never work.[/QUOTE]It is not easy being a sugar daddy here in USA. $2-300 a month will not cut it. I know a guy who had a college cutie he takes out on vacations in spite of being married. He buys her lots of things including a car.

Firstly it is very hard to connect. Even craigslist is monitored. Escorts are legal with no negotiating for other services. For any reason the girl is not satisfied she can create lots of problems for you. In other words you opening yourselves to unnecessary worries chasing a pussy.

In many countries prostitution is legal or tolerated. It is cheaper and safer. Like anything else you need to know the game and definitely a hot looking GF waiting for you at airport is a plus. If her demands are limited and your budget allows it you can help out to keep her. This only applies if you make frequent trips and do not want to go looking for new pussy. Many people do not like the chase. That is why they go to black beards resort where everything is right there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1913117]If I've already explained it at least 3 times and you either failed to read, or failed to understand, do you think that a fourth attempt will be any more successful?

Last try.

1. Some of the men, specifically the ones spending a lot of money (by US cost of living standards) on girls in foreign countries, without ever visiting, have an over-romanticized view of the supporter / supportee relationship.

2. The main benefit they receive is a pleasure from being the savior, the white knight, the fairy tale Prince.

3. In regards to the relationship, they are living in a fairy tale. In the real world, nobody believes a woman they've never met is going to remain pure and faithful.

4. In fairy tales involving a man and a woman, the ending is always, they get married and live happily ever after. In the US (and probably much of the world) marriage is considered by many to be the ultimate act of support. This is a widely held subjective belief, not an objective fact.

So:

Man considers himself fairy tale Prince.

Man considers girl fairy tale Princess.

Man enjoys act of supporting Princess.

Marriage is top level of support.

Therefore.

Marriage to Princess = win the game.

Marriage to Princess = happy ending.

Marriage to Princess = fairy tale comes true.

Because in the fairy tales, the Prince doesn't go fuck the Princess every 2 or 3 months. He doesn't get a BBBJ followed by CFS with MISH, RCG and Doggy and finishing with COF. He rescues the Princess, takes her to his castle, marries her and they live happily ever after.

As I'm getting tired of saying, none of these are benefits in the real world. Marriage does not equal happily ever after. All of this only works if you are living in this particular fairy tale. The Prince can't go fuck the Princess, it ruins the fairy tale. He has to follow the script and marry her first.

Do you you finally understand? I've been discussing a fantasy benefit for a deluded person in a make-believe relationship. There's no real world connection, no magic wand, no fairy godmother.

In the real world you don't send $1000's every month to a stranger, you don't pay for medicine for her sick mother, kid or goat, you don't carry on a multi-year long distance relationship with no physical component and you don't marry a puta. In the real world, the only benefits to marriage are subjective and personal to the people who are getting married.

It's like anal sex: some people think it's great, but mostly it's just a pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]The reason why I didn't get it, is because it doesn't make sense. In essence everything you posted about the mindset of an individual sending money is coming from you, and your opinion of what YOU think is in THEIR heads, not necessarily their reality. And if you know my saying, I always say. YOU CAN ONLY THINK IN ONE HEAD.

1st off, each individual sending money may have reasons you or I have not factored into the equation. The fact that you admit that you do not understand their alleged mindset speaks volumes. If you do not understand it, how can you be so sure of another mans motivation for sending money or his connection to the female? A few personal examples you know does not make it generally the case for every or most men sending money. Moreover, not all men are sending large amounts like what you described. Suppose a guy is only sending $50 a month? Jumping on a plane every now and then to visit the recipient of his generosity is an expense that seems reasonable. Much more reasonable than getting married just to fulfill some fantasy. What if the guy is already married? Hows he supposed to fulfill his fantasy then?

All in all, regardless of the explanation, it still doesn't make sense to get married if all one is getting is his supposed fantasy fulfilled. Shit instead of getting married, he can fantasize about being married, being a white knight and all the rest and just send what he wants and don't marry the woman. Pay until he feels like stopping and walk away. When he walks away, THEN he will get something out of that arrangement. RELIEF.

It's one thing to give our opinions on cost vs benefit when talking about marriage. But it is a totally different thing to attempt to project or give our opinions of what other people are supposedly thinking and their motivation, and how we think they may be fulfilled psychologically.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1913121]Really Frannie? Now explain to me the tax or other benefits and deductions for that same individual who is now divorcing? After you put things in their proper perspective, those things you mentioned were never benefits of marriage. They were incentives designed to fool some sap into signing up into a system to get fucked. The things you mentioned are things that makes an individual not thinking straight believe he is actually going to get something by being married. What you get is the reverse mortgage effect of marriage deal. Enjoy some now, and pay dearly later plan. In the long run, marriage does not IMO pan out as a benefit that supercedes the comfort zone of being unmarried.[/QUOTE]Well, you are going off on a tangent now. Originally you were saying you were unable to obtain any information on what the benefits of marriage might be. Now you are talking about the benefits of divorce, which is a whole new subject. Divorce is painful and expensive, especially when there are children involved. No one denies that.

[BOLD] The union of husband and wife in heart, body, and mind is
intended by God for their mutual joy; for the help and comfort
given one another in prosperity and adversity; and, when it is
Gods will, for the procreation of children and their nurture
in the knowledge and love of the Lord. Therefore marriage is
not to be entered into unadvisedly or lightly, but reverently,
deliberately, and in accordance with the purposes for which it
was instituted by God. [/BOLD]

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1913134]The reason why I didn't get it, is because it doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]Welcome to our planet, Dr. Spock. I am afraid that you will find little that makes sense. For example, why do rich men pay millions of dollars for paintings by dead men when photography has superceded painting? Why do people pay $500 per night for hotel rooms that have water views, especially when the waters may contain alligators that might kill their pets or children.

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