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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1913693]LOL. Frannie I have said this before, and I will say it once again: You are a funny mf. We need to dub you The Tiptoe Mongerer. You must wear a disguise and hide behind palm trees when you go to Sosua.[/QUOTE]I have had people ask me if I am Dominican, so I don't really need a disguise. I just blend in with the scenery. If you ran into me in Sosua, you would probably not think I was a monger, even though in Sosua nearly everyone is.
I find it hard to believe you have friends whose wives would not notice if they were out of the country for a few days. Of course people have busy lives these days and in some cases their spouse might be dead for a while before they spotted something different about them.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1913691]But just one more thing, and I'll leave it alone. You learned an awful lot from the vets about mongering, (as I did) and where to get it, so don't you think it sounds a bit hollow, when you are telling us here, that you really don't need hookers? Or it's so easy to get laid anywhere you might as well stay home, and have a fuck party, or call a couple of those Youtube Music Video dancers over who'll fuck our old ancient mongers for pocket change :)[/QUOTE]No. Because I have explained before that when I first go to a place I will read up on ISG to see what the deal is. I will go on a website and look for regular chicks. I may fuck around with P4P until I can get my bearings on a place then I start learning the language or whatever else. Then P4P becomes a past time. Or something to do in between non-pros.
I went to Vietnam. I can't even say Hello, in Vietnamese. I RTFF and learned the tricks of the mongering trade there. It suited me fine for my 10 day trip. Now if I was to decide to become a frequent visitor to Vietnam then I would decide to learn the language and culture and learn how to move in order to start picking up nonpros there. But for my short visit there was no need to go outside of P4P. I definitely would not make 100 trips to Vietnam and still be relying on P4P though.
Variety is the spice of life. I grew up in Atlanta around the strippers and all that. I had my fill of that when I was in high school and college. These days, one week I might have a taste for Latin Flavor and the next week I might get that Yellow Fever. Like I said, it is more to it than just having a handy hole to stick your dick in. You might have a refrigerator full of food at home, but when the weekend comes you may want to order a pizza or go try a new restaurant. Why not just eat the same thing for every meal everyday? Because fuck that. I got options.
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[QUOTE=Oakie;1913607]I'm in Canada. Getting a satisfactory connection by answering a hooker ad in backpage, or going on a "dating" site is hard work. It also takes luck![/QUOTE]I was referring to my Canada experience, as I said, before the Internet became all encompassing. There used to be plenty of massage places which always wound up with a satisfactory outcome, one way or the other and even the escorts visiting the hotel room were nice. In this regard, I do have to state that my experience in hotel escorts in Australia and new Zealand in particular have been fabulous, perhaps because those are two lands where prostitution is legal, as it should be in a civilized land.
BTW, with regards to quoting "others' experience", something that you mentioned earlier (and I agree with it), an unique experience that I never thought could be true, happened to me in the DR: picking up a student at the UNI, a complete stranger and then visiting a cabana. Indeed I was bamboozled by that, in that, that kind of experience only happens to "others". DR indeed is full of such surprises, which I daresay only happens in dreams in other lands.
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[QUOTE=Frannie;1913705]I find it hard to believe you have friends whose wives would not notice if they were out of the country for a few days. Of course people have busy lives these days and in some cases their spouse might be dead for a while before they spotted something different about them.[/QUOTE]It is not about noticing they are gone. It is that they are allowed to go places by themselves or with friends. They are grown men. My best friend's wife keeps begging him to go to Thailand with me. Last time I was in Sosua they were in Puerto Plata. She was going to come meet up with me alone because she said he was too scary to drive. He has been on a trip to Sosua 3 times without her.
The other day my dad just got back from Italy with my stepmom, and aunt, and cousins. I called to ask him how the trip was. He said it was okay but going on a mongering trip is more his style. I started laughing at his ass. (Wrx has met my dad in Sosua.)
My cousin, his wife, and son were moving to Malaysia where his wife is from. The only way she got him to go for that deal is that she would have to let him stay in Thailand for the majority of the time. He has even been to Sosua twice while she footed the bill.
When I was married I would ask my wife if we had anything planned for such and such date. If she said no then I would say okay in that case I am going to go to XYZ for a few days. Nobody has to sneak off.
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1913655]Don't take this the wrong way, but are you a complete fucking idiot? Give that question some serious consideration.[/QUOTE]Don't need to think that deeply. Yeah sort of. But don't take this the wrong way either. Some people kinda get that way when they respond to a stupid ass suggestion, from someone initially speaking in general about WU novios supposedly getting something out of marrying some chick. Then later, claims he was talking about some individuals/examples he knows about. Meanwhile anybody else your examples don't fit, you can't seem to grasp how stupid that suggestion was. Initially it wasnt even about individuals you knew of, so how the fuck would anybody know who you were referring to when you 1st made that remark? You only made that shit up because you had no where else to go to explain that idiotic remark.
Even harder than that is figuring out why you went through all that trouble to explain something that was meant to apply to indivduals you know, when all you had to do is simply say your remark was intended to only be sarcasm. Idiocy is when you expect your mindset / sarcasm to be understood without a fucking explanation. Thats why the other poster asked you if you were out of your fucking mind when he read that shit. You could have saved yourself several pages of patching hole posts by just coming clean. However, were done. And I mean it. Were done.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1913686]That same trip Gagoo joined up with us. He taught me that I should be using GPS to navigate the streets. I didn't even know I could do that. I consider that shit essential now. And I passed it on to Grown Man telling him how to add internet to his local SIM so it would not eat all his credit up and that would make it feasible to use the GPS.[/QUOTE]A piece of advice off topic. I have been using HERE Maps (Nokia) for my navigation, when I don't have local SIM with Data plan. You can download the maps for the offline navigation. I haven't used the App (Android and iOS) in DR, but it works really well in Brazil. The DR map is only 83,3 MB and it's all free.
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[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1913732]Don't need to think that deeply. Yeah sort of. But don't take this the wrong way either. Some people kinda get that way when they respond to a stupid ass suggestion, from someone initially speaking in general about WU novios supposedly getting something out of marrying some chick. Then later, claims he was talking about some individuals/examples he knows about. Meanwhile anybody else your examples don't fit, you can't seem to grasp how stupid that suggestion was. Initially it wasnt even about individuals you knew of, so how the fuck would anybody know who you were referring to when you 1st made that remark? You only made that shit up because you had no where else to go to explain that idiotic remark.
Even harder than that is figuring out why you went through all that trouble to explain something that only applies to indivduals you know, when all you had to do is simply say your remark was intended to only be sarcasm. Idiocy is when you expect your mindset / sarcasm to be understood without a fucking explanation. Thats why the other poster asked you if you were out of your fucking mind when he read that shit. You could have saved yourself several pages of patching hole posts by just coming clean. However, were done. And I mean it. Were done.[/QUOTE]A simple "Yes" would have sufficed.
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1913710]I was referring to my Canada experience, as I said, before the Internet became all encompassing. There used to be plenty of massage places which always wound up with a satisfactory outcome, one way or the other and even the escorts visiting the hotel room were nice. In this regard, I do have to state that my experience in hotel escorts in Australia and new Zealand in particular have been fabulous, perhaps because those are two lands where prostitution is legal, as it should be in a civilized land.
BTW, with regards to quoting "others' experience", something that you mentioned earlier (and I agree with it), an unique experience that I never thought could be true, happened to me in the DR: picking up a student at the UNI, a complete stranger and then visiting a cabana. Indeed I was bamboozled by that, in that, that kind of experience only happens to "others". DR indeed is full of such surprises, which I daresay only happens in dreams in other lands.[/QUOTE]Live the dream TC, live the dream!
Life's a mirror, it gives back what you put into it. !
ID you look for shit, you'll always fine lots of it!
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1913708]No. Because I have explained before that when I first go to a place I will read up on ISG to see what the deal is. I will go on a website and look for regular chicks. I may fuck around with P4P until I can get my bearings on a place then I start learning the language or whatever else. Then P4P becomes a past time. Or something to do in between non-pros.
I went to Vietnam. I can't even say Hello, in Vietnamese. I RTFF and learned the tricks of the mongering trade there. It suited me fine for my 10 day trip. Now if I was to decide to become a frequent visitor to Vietnam then I would decide to learn the language and culture and learn how to move in order to start picking up nonpros there. But for my short visit there was no need to go outside of P4P. I definitely would not make 100 trips to Vietnam and still be relying on P4P though.
Variety is the spice of life. I grew up in Atlanta around the strippers and all that. I had my fill of that when I was in high school and college. These days, one week I might have a taste for Latin Flavor and the next week I might get that Yellow Fever. Like I said, it is more to it than just having a handy hole to stick your dick in. You might have a refrigerator full of food at home, but when the weekend comes you may want to order a pizza or go try a new restaurant. Why not just eat the same thing for every meal everyday? Because fuck that. I got options.[/QUOTE]Not being critical here, just checking how you roll.
So you learn everything you can about P4 P hookers, until you "graduate" to free pussy, in these same countries?
That about right?
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Affidavit Required
Is that what it's come to? Before posting anything we need signed and notarized affidavits from all sources of information, plus subpoenas for all witnesses? Nobody is allowed to have any knowledge or experience beyond the confines of this board?
This might come as a surprise, but some of us know people. We even (you may want to sit down for this) talk to people. Amazing, I know, but it does happen. After so many experiences and conversations, you learn things. Sometimes it's something completely unexpected and sometimes it's something you've suspected all along. Often we learn things without realizing it.
When replying on a subject, I depend on what I know. Some of the knowledge is from direct experience, some from observation, some from research and some from the experiences of others. The experiences of others may be from anyone and sometimes involves pictures, videos or copies of messages. All of that just means, I know what I know.
Does it change anything if I write 5000 words explaining that I have a young female friend in Colombia, give full details about how we became acquainted, discuss how we became friends, rather than a more intimate relationship, show supporting evidence that we are friends, give her contact information so you can verify, give examples of the wide array of subjects we've discussed, just to discuss the conclusions I've drawn about one of those subjects?
Should I add that she asked me to advise another of her friends who was in a similar situation? What about the woman in San Diego who showed me the private messages she received online after we had spent the evening in bed? The ex GF in Chino Hills or the fuck buddy in Phoenix? Maybe the friend of a friend who I tried to talk out of buying a Russian bride, or the conversation a year later when he wanted advice on getting rid of the Russian bride? The ex coworker who wanted to dump his wife for some 18 year old in Puerto Rico? The various strippers, escorts and 3rd rate porn stars I've known? Being married into a family of psychologists probably played a part too.
Instead of worrying whether someone is qualified (which raises the question, are you qualified to judge their qualifications?) to voice an opinion, why not stick with the opinion? Does it have merit? Are there inherent contradictions? Is the conclusion consistent with the preconceptions?
If it doesn't make sense, being the world's foremost authority on the subject won't change anything. If it does make sense, does it matter that I'm an idiot and an asshole?
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1913784]Is that what it's come to? Before posting anything we need signed and notarized affidavits from all sources of information, plus subpoenas for all witnesses? Nobody is allowed to have any knowledge or experience beyond the confines of this board?
This might come as a surprise, but some of us know people. We even (you may want to sit down for this) talk to people. Amazing, I know, but it does happen. After so many experiences and conversations, you learn things. Sometimes it's something completely unexpected and sometimes it's something you've suspected all along. Often we learn things without realizing it.
When replying on a subject, I depend on what I know. Some of the knowledge is from direct experience, some from observation, some from research and some from the experiences of others. The experiences of others may be from anyone and sometimes involves pictures, videos or copies of messages. All of that just means, I know what I know.
Does it change anything if I write 5000 words explaining that I have a young female friend in Colombia, give full details about how we became acquainted, discuss how we became friends, rather than a more intimate relationship, show supporting evidence that we are friends, give her contact information so you can verify, give examples of the wide array of subjects we've discussed, just to discuss the conclusions I've drawn about one of those subjects?
Should I add that she asked me to advise another of her friends who was in a similar situation? What about the woman in San Diego who showed me the private messages she received online after we had spent the evening in bed? The ex GF in Chino Hills or the fuck buddy in Phoenix? Maybe the friend of a friend who I tried to talk out of buying a Russian bride, or the conversation a year later when he wanted advice on getting rid of the Russian bride? The ex coworker who wanted to dump his wife for some 18 year old in Puerto Rico? The various strippers, escorts and 3rd rate porn stars I've known? Being married into a family of psychologists probably played a part too.
Instead of worrying whether someone is qualified (which raises the question, are you qualified to judge their qualifications?) to voice an opinion, why not stick with the opinion? Does it have merit? Are there inherent contradictions? Is the conclusion consistent with the preconceptions?
If it doesn't make sense, being the world's foremost authority on the subject won't change anything. If it does make sense, does it matter that I'm an idiot and an asshole?[/QUOTE]Well said, but an opinion is in a different category than an argument to used to make a point.
In all the instances you relate above, your experience is directly with the other party, and as such we can take you at your word for what transpires between to two of you and the reasons why.
But if you say someone is stupid to send a little money to a regular, so that she can pay her phone bill, get her hair and nails fixed and take a complete week away from her daily life to be with you, because somebody knows somebody who sends thousands of dollars to women he has never met who steals from him, all the time, that's a false strawman argument, no matter how many "me too" circle jerk thumbs up it gets from some mongers here!
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Is it only in Atlanta or don't guys in other cities have fuck parties where you invite a bunch a strippers over to someone's house and you can go fuck them in one of the rooms for $40? Even with setups like that people like a change of scenery every now and then.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1913641]Those are the same girls that you can get to come by for a party.
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyX8LxUrq-c[/url][/QUOTE]You aint fucking ATL strippers for $40 bucks. Quit playing bro. 😐
My foreign broad don't even give up the ass for $40. And she's probably hotter than all those chicks in that video combined. Plus I fuck her bareback and cum inside of her as much as I want.
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[QUOTE=SavePros321;1913845]You aint fucking ATL strippers for $40 bucks. Quit playing bro. 😐
[/QUOTE]I apologize for the misinformation. A buddy of mine has told me that it is actually $50 that the chicks want. But of course I would be the one to talk them down to the $40 that I reported previously.
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[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1913710]
BTW, with regards to quoting "others' experience", something that you mentioned earlier (and I agree with it), an unique experience that I never thought could be true, happened to me in the DR: picking up a student at the UNI, a complete stranger and then visiting a cabana. Indeed I was bamboozled by that, in that, that kind of experience only happens to "others". DR indeed is full of such surprises, which I daresay only happens in dreams in other lands.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. The great thing about the DR is that you end up having sex with people you never thought you would, like your dentist or bank manager. I remember the time you came to visit me when I was living up the hill in Torre Alta and at the end of the visit, you left on a motoconcho and on the way back down the hill stopped to give a Haitian woman a ride and carried her off to your lair at the Portofino. That kind of thing doesn't seem to happen the same in the US. Or the girl of 18 who came to stay with you in Puerto Plata and you had your way with her and sent her home with chocolate cake for her mother. Only in the DR.