Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2213191]Nobody's getting charged a "gringo price."

The best option is the Medellin Metro. If I was on a budget trip, I would pick a hotel in Mayorista. There are several nice, cheap options there and Ayura metro station is an easy 10 minute walk away. 2400 pesos gets you on the Metro to El Centro, or you can transfer to head out to Laureles. There are lots of sightseeing options accessible via the Metro and Metrocable and it's the fastest way to get around the city. There's also plenty of cheap food options in Mayorista, although quality does vary.[/QUOTE]You have had outstanding luck then if you have never been charged the "Gringo Price". I was probably thinking of my experiences taxis in CR more so than MDE. I should have been more explicit.

Totally agree about buses & taxis during rush hour. I just tried the Metro in July, my 4th trip & am a firm believer in it. The Metro is awesome. Quick, efficient & no confusion on the prices whatsoever! Thanks for the response.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2213199]Hell, the hotel that I stay in around from Nutibara is less than $15. So from my angle it could be looked at as being out 1 night's hotel stay everytime you bring a chick in. From a trustfunder's angle it is just their Starbuck's money.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mr. E. I agree 100%.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2213199]Hell, the hotel that I stay in around from Nutibara is less than $15. So from my angle it could be looked at as being out 1 night's hotel stay everytime you bring a chick in. From a trustfunder's angle it is just their Starbuck's money.[/QUOTE]$15? Do you get a bed? .

Details please. I need to change my trust-fund baby ways.

I would like to thank the guys who were helpful & supportive in their replies. Several of you understand the problem, and I really appreciate that. This sentence below really hits the nail on the head.

[QUOTE=Combo;2213235]I think more than that is that he was led to believe one thing and then treated differently. This can get on one's nerves, no matter how small the $ amount.[/QUOTE]My problem with the Nutibara had very little to do with the money. I began my research weeks before my check-in which included several conversations about the hotel with the airline vacation agents, and a thorough review of the hotel's profile & customer reviews on both TripAdvisor & [URL]Hotels.com[/URL]. I also sent 2 seperate emails from different email accounts directly to the hotel asking what the visitor fee was. Both my emails went unreturned. Then I get there and get half the information I need. Then the next night with my guest, I get asked for the money with less civility than what I get from a fast-food joint here in the USA. At this point I had had enough with this hotel's evasive & disrespectful customer service.

Fortunately all that is in the past. I am staying in 2-bedroom condos thru Airbnb in Poblado, Laureles & Centro for the remainder of my trip. It's great having things all cleared with the owner of the condo, and also the building's security. The girls checkin below and come right up to my condo front door. I let them in and take them to the little bedroom for action. I do love me the room service!

[QUOTE=Jooks;2213499]$15? Do you get a bed? .

Details please. I need to change my trust-fund baby ways.[/QUOTE]I'm new on this forum and I'm from Europe, I plan to visit Colombia (Medellin, Cartahena, San Andres), please help with information about weather at the moment, I'm not found so much trust information. Mongering is one of main wishes for this holiday. Sorry if I write in wrong place.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2213499]$15? Do you get a bed? .

Details please. I need to change my trust-fund baby ways.[/QUOTE]If the Botero keeps their price at $36 (was $26 the 4 times I stayed there in the last year) I will try the Normandia at $18 a night, it's like 2 doors down from Barra Ejectiva and Maricaibo strip clubs which is nice and convenient, I bet I can talk them into to free take out since it is so close. I will miss the mini-fridge at the Botero but I guess I can get a cooler and ice.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/normandia.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNYBHIFdXNfZmyIAQGYATG4AQbIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=9cacd6405588901881919c3761adac7f;atlas_src=sr_iw_btn;checkin=2018-10-01;checkout=2018-10-02;dist=0;group_adults=2;nflt=di%3D4140%3B;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;type=total&[/URL]

I signed up for Tinder and paid the $30 to get international access so I would just be looking at Medellin chicas. When I get matches I give them my standard FKK pitch. BBBJ, french kissing, 69 position for 180 k. I ask for their whatsapp number. In 2 days I have accumulated 5 phone numbers. 2 of the 5 will not do accept 180 k. One asked for 250 k and the other 300 K. It is the BBBJ and 69 to which they object. Problematic, is of the five they had the best pictures.

As a previous poster said many of them are on a known agency list. I found the one the taxi driver set me up with 2 years ago but I already have her whatsapp.

I am spending far too much time on this thing obsessive personality that I am. Hopefully it is like a new toy and I will soon grow tired of it. The irony is that have a list 100 chicas and only 10 days of mongering. I am not even counting going to the clubs. Just got another anonymous whatsapp so make it 6.

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2213374]So is there a hotel that is relatively cheap (less than $60 a night), that is clean / comfortable, is in a safe area, and doesn't have a chica fee or a low chica fee? Hotel botero hits 3/4 with the exception being that its in not such a great area. I know its perfectly safe if your cautious but I still feel a bit uncomfortable with the area especially with my rudimentary spanish.[/QUOTE]Well what's nice about the Botero out of hotels in Centro is you have to make it 150 ft from the airport bus with your luggage to the hotel, 650 ft to the strip club brothels Maracaibo and Barra Ejectiva and 700 ft to Conejitas, not a lot of exposure.

And in the daytime it's 1,400 ft to the VeraCruz redlight block and 1,415 ft to the Raudal redlight block. (I don't recommend cruising those at night, the Raudal block is a little rough looking even in the day) Also only 180 ft to a indoor ATM (Nutribara has a back entrance and 2 24 HR ATMs) and 290 ft to 24 HR food at BrasePan and 400 ft to a grocery store. (Tiendas D1).

Medellin. Pretty much the same all year, although less rain this time of year. Highs in the 80's. Lows in the 60's. Sun is hot, because of proximity to the equator. Low humidity.

Cartagena. Hot. Highs in the upper 80's, but the humidity makes it feel hotter. Reminds me of home here in Florida. A little more likely to have some rain during the day, but it rarely lasts.

San Andres. Hot and humid, but there is almost always a good breeze, since it's an island. It can be very rainy there, but this time of year I have found the rain to be less frequent (or at least not lasting as long).

[QUOTE=ElToro3;2213508]I'm new on this forum and I'm from Europe, I plan to visit Colombia (Medellin, Cartahena, San Andres), please help with information about weather at the moment, I'm not found so much trust information. Mongering is one of main wishes for this holiday. Sorry if I write in wrong place.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2213248] $119k isn't a crazy big increase but we would be better off without it. LOL! The dollar is creeping back above 3 K so that should help a bit. Let's blame it on Duque.[/QUOTE]I don't know, seems like a more then 50% increase is a lot to me with out a remodel. I'd be happier if it was 10-20%.

The only difference I can tell is they now throw in a free breakfast which isn't much for a 44,000 peso increase.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2213240]I would try to find a better deal or get girls to show up earlier in the day. I can't remember how much it is but Botero hotel collects a fee for overnight guests. It isn't much. I think it is probably the difference between the single (sencillo) rate and the double occupancy rate.[/QUOTE]Well if you book a room for 2 they don't. One night guy did try to put the squeeze on me for some extra but I told him talk to the day manager, I paid for a room for two.

I did tip him once cause the door is locked after like midnight I think and he has to come let you in and I didn't want him dragging his feet, Centro is nowhere to loiter at 2 am on the street. LOL.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2213541]When I get matches I give them my standard FKK pitch. BBBJ, french kissing, 69 position for 180 k. I ask for their whatsapp number. In 2 days I have accumulated 5 phone numbers. 2 of the 5 will not do accept 180 k. One asked for 250 k and the other 300 K. It is the BBBJ and 69 to which they object. Problematic, is of the five they had the best pictures.[/QUOTE]I have said it before but I will try to put it in layman's terms this time. Call down to the Toyota dealership and tell them you are looking for a new Camry and you want to buy it on the 18th of next month. They will tell you $25000. Tell them that you want the premium sound system, rustproof package, and extended warranty included. They will tell you no way.

Tomorrow go down to the Toyota dealership with a cashier's check for $23000. Tell them you want the new Camry with the premium sound system, rustproof package, and extended warranty. Then drive away in a new car.

You hammer out deals when you are on the spot ready to make the purchase, not the month before you are expecting to win the lottery. (As you already know from doing it in the FKK.).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2213610]I have said it before but I will try to put it in layman's terms this time. Call down to the Toyota dealership and tell them you are looking for a new Camry and you want to buy it on the 18th of next month. They will tell you $25000. Tell them that you want the premium sound system, rustproof package, and extended warranty included. They will tell you no way.

Tomorrow go down to the Toyota dealership with a cashier's check for $23000. Tell them you want the new Camry with the premium sound system, rustproof package, and extended warranty. Then drive away in a new car.

You hammer out deals when you are on the spot ready to make the purchase, not the month before you are expecting to win the lottery. (As you already know from doing it in the FKK.).[/QUOTE]I told you I was a nut case with an obsessive personality.

The instruction manual on How to get laid on Tinder that I read is exactly like you say. He wants to always score within 3 or 4 hours. The key he says is to get them off Tinder. On Tinder you are competing against several other matches. So they will take the best offer. So I was just seeing if my little blurb would work and stupidly didn't stop. The blurb is working. Since I wrote the previous post 4 more sent their whatsapp. I think it is Friday and the girls want to party and make a little money on the side. And this idiot is sitting in California playing with computer apps. All the new ones accepted 180 k. 8 out of 10. I think 180 k is a very good price point in Medellin. And I imagine when I start asking for availability next Wednesday 2 or 3 will be around. So maybe all is not lost but not best use of time.

Normandia is hella noisy. Think about the daytime car traffic and the nightime foot traffic plus music from the stip clubs. I'd rather sacrifice the $20/ day, even though it's not much fun listening to the wannabe bus dispatcher yelling aeropuerto! 12 hours a day.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2213538]If the Botero keeps their price at $36 (was $26 the 4 times I stayed there in the last year) I will try the Normandia at $18 a night, it's like 2 doors down from Barra Ejectiva and Maricaibo strip clubs which is nice and convenient, I bet I can talk them into to free take out since it is so close. I will miss the mini-fridge at the Botero but I guess I can get a cooler and ice.

[URL]https://www.booking.com/hotel/co/normandia.html?aid=304142;label=gen173nr-1FCAEoggJCAlhYSDNYBHIFdXNfZmyIAQGYATG4AQbIAQzYAQHoAQH4AQKSAgF5qAID;sid=9cacd6405588901881919c3761adac7f;atlas_src=sr_iw_btn;checkin=2018-10-01;checkout=2018-10-02;dist=0;group_adults=2;nflt=di%3D4140%3B;room1=A%2CA;sb_price_type=total;type=total&[/URL][/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

Your collective inputs have been so helpful but I really need some more guidance before heading out. Believe me, I have read the forum for the past two years preparing for this trip. Now it looks like I'm finally going. I know the Medellin forum in and out but some clarification from you veterans is needed.

1. It appears that condos will all have front desk staff. Are they cool about girls coming in? I mean, one girl a day is a bare minimum. Will I get a visit from the owner of the apt telling me to slow down, or worse, get out? I know that security is there for my safety but I'd rather not have those long stares and daily reports to the owner.

2. It appears from your reports that the scene is primarily a 'casa' one, in that you enter a place, get shown a line up and so on. Basically it is similar to Europe (Prague, Budapest) and massage scene in North America. Please note that I'm not whining, but as a matter of choice it is not my favorite scene. Just like some of my preferred methods would not be to your liking. I don't like to stand in line with other punters in a small apartment, holding our wieners. I like brothel strip joints like in Tijuana, I would choose brothel strip joints in Prague over apartments if I go there. Therefore that White Mansion (in MDE will be just fine and I don't mind heading to centro to check out the SWs.

3. This is basically a continuation of #2. This might be where I'm totally wrong. From your reports there appears to be a clear delineation between working girls and others. What I mean is that I should not approach every female like I do in Cuba or like guys do in Sosua and around Copacabana? So virtually there's no semi pro scene (Sosua semi pro haha) unless you dig them up on social media?

I'll elaborate on Havana: I know that many veterans of this site decry the state of that city but I respectfully disagree. You are able to have sex there 3 times a day with different ladies and you don't need to own a phone to arrange those dates. Perhaps what those senior members mean is that before they were able to do it 10 times a day and I might agree with that assessment but I just started the hobby and believe me what you are able to pull in HAV is enough for me. For instance, 2 Havana veterans going to MDE returned saying it's dead. Although they don't speak a word of Spanish and they do stick out as stereotypical gringos. They are also older and don't use online resources such as this one. But they were genuinely surprised at my assertion that all the good guys on this site said MDE was a motherload. Yes, the effort is required in Cuba but you could also just stand on a busy corner and start talking to everyone. The MDE monger I was with in Havana was amazed that I could do that. He said not to come at girls in Colombia this way. Of course I don't mind striking friendly conversations with rich paisas and buy them a dinner with no strings attached but is there any chance of "closing the P4P deal" with working class and middle class girls?

4. 180 K /$60 seems to be the going / median rate based on the info below or is it considered appropriate only for high end talent? My attentive reading tells me they are real germaphobes when it comes to BBBJ, so that is out of q? They are down for GFE but based on your reports I can tell that Cubans are much wilder. No one in Cuba lets you in the back door but most will take CIM and obviously BBBJ is non negotiable.

To close, I want to reiterate that my aversion to casas is not due to arrogance. Shyness is what it is. This is not me complaining about things I don't want to adjust to, I simply would like to know if MDE is flexible to my liking or very rigid (I. E. completely independent living space, semi / non pros parading streets at night happy to make extra $ before / after night out). If I only have to pull strippers ill gladly do it. I know that means paying a premium but what the hey.

I really appreciate yous guys input, all your invaluable pointers before and hopefully after today. I haven't been anywhere except for HAV but I learned about different places from this site so I know how to compare one to the other. I'm willing to put in work and walk miles, hence my hunt for semis and long convos with cubanas and I also don't mind the fish in the barrel deal, hence the SWs and brothels. Apartments are just not my bag.