Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427]I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up. [/QUOTE]Gosh! You need a hug. Perhaps you took the "posting a review about failures" bit a little too seriously.

But there are several mistakes you could have avoided, for which I have no sympathy. At the risk of being an armchair critic here are a few obvious gaffes.

1. If you had a cramp while checking into a hotel in Pattaya, the first thing one would do is try to fix that. Sure, cramps are caused by long hours of flying, aggravated by sleeplessness and even further by lack of hydration. Did you drink sufficient water? I mean like at least a gallon?

2. Good massages are everywhere in Pattaya. The first thing you could have done is get a good massage and take care of that cramp.

3. Despite all the advice you got on this thread, you went to BR on your maiden visit. And you picked a LB. I mean that takes special skills. Zero sympathy on that one.

4. Your room's AC was cold. Which did not help your sleep. And it sure does not help cramps. And you go and put ice on it. You ought to get a medal.

5. Finally, if sleep is what you want, why the fuck are you typing reports on this forum? As for reading PMs on the top of your landing page, next to your screen name you would see "Notifications". Click that to access Inbox. After that its like any other email application.

Some guys, you just can't save. I hope you get a wingman soon.

Heading to Pattaya Beach and I was hoping for some help tracking down so variety in the girls. Here is what I have found so far from Youtube videos and forum reports.

African: WS bar close to iBar, Beach Rd (few and far between).

Eastern European: WS gogos (should be obvious by talent outside).

Indian?

Hispanic?

Chinese?

Japanese?

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427] Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straight[/QUOTE]I could recommend some sleeping pills but I won't since you can't count. I'd feel like I assisted in your death if you were to overdose.

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427]I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up.
[/QUOTE]Leg cramps on long, cold flights are common. Sorry to hear about that.

Many people have had fun times on BR. Nothing is a rock solid indicator of lady boys, but be aware of the trends. Taller. Narrow hips, wide shoulders. Exaggerated/fake female movements (play with hair, swing hips, etc.). Adams apple. Voice. When in doubt, ask her if she is a lady boy.

As far as sleeping, I don't think Thailand sells anything like Ambien or Sonata without a prescription. Try some Benadryl (diphenhydramine), which I expect is available at any pharmacy.

Hang in there.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2250840]
As far as sleeping, I don't think Thailand sells anything like Ambien or Sonata without a prescription. Try some Benadryl (diphenhydramine), which I expect is available at any pharmacy.

Hang in there.[/QUOTE]I'm not even sure real sleeping pills like Zolpidem are available at all in Thailand, not even with a prescription. Benadryl takes hours to kick in and leaves you groggy the day after. Best is to buy Circadine (delayed onset melatonine) without a prescription.

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2250367]I plan on going to Thailand (Pattaya) in January, it's going to be my first time on a Thai soil.[/QUOTE]As another poster said, Thai people don't know if you are Jewish or Brazilian. You are light or you are dark, that's it. In my opinion, after 25 years are going here, Americans get treated the best overall, then everyone else who is light skinned. Thais don't care about religion and probably don't even know where Brazil is.

You may experience prejudice from your fellow mongers though.

So yea I fucked up on the first day.

The second day I went to get a massage made the cramps worse, then I went to get a soapie very disappointing 2000 baht + 120 for drinks I didn't order + 500 baht for the 2nd shot + there only being a handful of girls there + you can't even touch the girls in their face because it will ruin their makeup + they act super germaphobic no FIV.

Went to ama fashion to get a suit made 7500 baht for suit pants and shirt there highest quality.

Fell asleep at 4 pm woke up like 5 am.

Asked hotel for recommendation to see doctor really helpful.

They told me to go to the Pattaya city hospital which is on the baht bus route and it was in total 600 baht for the check up and medication.

Yea that's all that happened so far.

I plan on getting a massage then soi 6 then walking street then taking sleeping medication to fix my sleep schedule I think like 10 pm - 6 am would be good.

So yea I fucked up a lot but I learned from my mistakes and I have no one to blame but myself if anyone has any other advise I'm all ears and ill post something tomorrow.

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427]Hey guys,

I've been on this forum for a really long time and had my first trip to Pattaya I fucked up. I thought I knew what I was doing but it turned out I probably had the worse series of events happen to me.

To start my plane ride was supposed to be 20 hours snow at JFK delayed it by 6 hours I was stuck in China for 12 and in total it took 44 hours. I only slept 4 hours in that time.

Importantly in China I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.

I got to Pattaya midnight. I was planning on going to sleep by the sounds of my neighbor banging a girl made me go outside. I was told by others not to go to beach rode its bad. I went to beach rode.

I brought back a ladyboy to my hotel. My other leg started cramping on the motorcycle. The receptionist didn't say a word when I asked if anything was ok.

The I saw that the guy I brought back had a dick and asked him to leave after paying him. Also both my calves were sore to the point I couldn't even walk without wincing. Then I slept for 2 hours before being woken up by my super cold 18 degree AC. So yea.

I fucked up hard my friend told me to go get a massage for my calves but I can barely walk. I put ice and trying flexing it it helped a bit. I think the cramps are caused to me only having 6 hours of sleep in the last 4 days.

Fuck man any advise would be appreciated. Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straight also idk how to read PMs so if anyone can tell me how to I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Man do I feel for you. I can't help with any medical advice but I can with the following. The only way to counter neighbours banging is bang more. Tell the receptionist you don't want LBs so could they inform if you accidently bring one back, BTW no one would know if the LB blew you. LOL. I like your adventurist spirit by exploring where you are told not to venture. In regards to sleep I tend to go hard for as long as I can and then when I hit the wall I usually get a GFE type and go LT up to 18 hours to recover.

All the Best.

Rob.

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427]
Fuck man any advise would be appreciated. Any sleeping pills that can let me get the 8 hours of sleep I need without like killing me? Sorry if theres typos I can't even count straight also idk how to read PMs so if anyone can tell me how to I would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]You should buy membership to enable your PM.

As for sleep, you can order a girl from Smooci to your hotel. It may help your sleep after.

I found your report amusing. You are almost the exact opposite of MonkeyPaw in some way.

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427] I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.

[/QUOTE]My last trip here I was getting some leg stiffness so I went to the pharmacy and asked for a muscle relaxant. I was given Norgesic, which did the job. I was worried that it might turn me into a mass of jelly, but it was mild and the only effects on my ability to walk and stuff was that it became easier. It is cheap too. There is another relaxant available, so might get that one too, and if one doesn't work try the other.

But hopefully you are already better.

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2250737]So I better choose Bangkok over Pattaya for quality.[/QUOTE]

Bangkok is slightly better for quality, yes. However, you need to manage your expectations. Thailand hooker scene has gone downhill over the last few years, and while it still has the quantity, great looking girls who still work in the industry are few and far between. Basically, the best looking sex workers rarely match average Thai girls on the skytrain (public transit) in terms of looks, unless you're specifically into Issan look and don't mind them somewhat trashy.

What Thailand is still good at is a good diversity of venues (freelancers, agogo bars, beer bars, BJ bars, oily massages, soapy massages), safety and ease of use for a foreigner, still some decent attitudes (though this is worse than in the past), and still decent service levels in some venues (Tulip or Snow White are great value for PSE, but there are no lookers there; BJ bars are a great no-brainer option for getting a BJ). The girls are still a bit more relaxed and fun than in many other places (where a session with a hooker is most often heavily constrained, sordid and restrictive).

If you're into top-looking Asians (regardless of the price), perhaps try another place. Not entirely sure where, maybe Macau.

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2250737]I like to kiss and dance with girls and grab their asses and I also like when they grab my dick before having sex with them[/QUOTE]

Thais culture is all about face, and they place a high value at behaving appropriately in public. Kissing in public is a no-no, let alone groping. Even working girls, tend to be somewhat reserved in public, and save the intimacy for behind closed doors. Of course, anything goes in some bars, and many girls will tolerate being groped by drunks, but most will cringe (especially the good lookers that try to keep some face), and it won't endear you to anyone.

As for the attitude, it could be hard to tell before you get into the room. Girls that act naughty in a bar are often not so great once the sessions starts, while somewhat reserved ones can turn out better than expected.

When it comes to girls that grab your dick right away (even in public), that's a sure sign of a ladyboy (tranny).

[QUOTE=MongerForSex;2250737]average looking thais are ugly to me[/QUOTE]

If that's really the case, prepare an alternative plan. Working girls in Thailand these days tend to be markedly below-average looking, if you take an average among regular Thai women aged 20-35 on the streets and on public transit in Bangkok.

First, let me pile on. FLHawk your posts have been OUTSTANDING. I come to ISG to read well-written accounts I can live vicariously through and you delivered in spades. I did my ten or so posts in the São Paulo thread religiously and documented Berlin patiently, but you Sir have outdone me!

Second, I wanted to comment on aging, sex, and true GFE, topics you have raised. I get the strong feeling that you valued your 'girlfriend' time with Jen as much or more than your various sexual encounters. I can totally relate to this. I recently flew a girl I barely knew to London — could have been a disaster, but it turned out great. The key takeaway was the sex was great but honestly a small part of the greatness. Dancing, dining, walking arm in arm along the river — wow, these are the things that stick with me. Having a gorgeous girl who *appears* to adore you is more intoxicating than sex for me. And believe me this was a surprise.

But a few key points around this very slippery slope (that Jen or another girl may take you on):

1. Does she adore you? Or is it an act? Don't try to figure that out. You may be disappointed. Just enjoy while you can.

2. It can only be good if you keep it temporary. I know it sounds cynical, but people change as they get comfortable. That hot girl will eventually develop unpleasant wife-like characteristics if things get too comfortable and convenient for both parties.

I base this advice not only on my experience which is limited, but on advice from a friend who has gone down the GF route a little too deep. There is this super fine line to walk. But the high you get from a truly simulated girlfriend is really something altogether different that I appreciate more than I did a few years ago. It is thrilling and scary and will probably be painful in the long run. But if you are finding true GFE that is beyond being measured in hourly chunks, this might be the next frontier you are seeking.

I know others have experience in this realm and sugar-like type arrangements as well, so please add your thoughts as well.

[QUOTE=PonkeyMaw;2250427]Importantly in China I had a leg cramp that was so bad that I had to limp off my leg for about 4 hours before it just became moderate pain.[/QUOTE]Your cramps seem serious enough to require a doctor visit. Doctors are cheap in Thailand, about 1000 baht / visit or so, walk-in.

If you have a problem with muscle cramps, be very careful with Viagra (or any ED pills with Sildenafil Citrate). I often get muscle cramps when I take it, although I tend not to get them otherwise, and only take a small dosage (25-50 MG).

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2250905]

1. Does she adore you? Or is it an act? Don't try to figure that out. You may be disappointed. Just enjoy while you can.

2. It can only be good if you keep it temporary. I know it sounds cynical, but people change as they get comfortable. That hot girl will eventually develop unpleasant wife-like characteristics if things get too comfortable and convenient for both parties.

[/QUOTE]First, thanks for the kind words. These reports are therapeutic for me and a way of paying it back. I have heard that I am inspiring others to post usable posts, so that is good. I also hope that I am showing the human side to the ladies so that they will be respected and treated well. They often have a life that we can't imagine, and putting them down actually puts ourselves down.

Wise words, but have no fear that I am developing feelings for her! She is a warm body for me and, for her, I am a temporary refuge from the hell of her life.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2250906]Your cramps seem serious enough to require a doctor visit. Doctors are cheap in Thailand, about 1000 baht / visit or so, walk-in.[/QUOTE]Maybe in a private hospital it will run you 1000 baht, but in a normal clinic it is only 200 or 300. From my doctor on Pattaya Tai it usually costs me 500 with medicine included.