Hello everyone. A quick question: do you get good results in São Paulo with the Tinder application? Here in Rio where I am currently is a total disaster.
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Hello everyone. A quick question: do you get good results in São Paulo with the Tinder application? Here in Rio where I am currently is a total disaster.
So last time in Sao Paulo I decided I wanted to veer a bit out of the Moema bubble and checked out Deluxe Spa in Jabaquara at Rua Jandiroba 365 (ok so I did not veer very far out of the Moema bubble LOL! I took the plunge based on high marks on the very reliable gp-guia. It was well worth the trip for me because it checked all my boxes. There were a handful of girls I found desireable and the one I chose performed like a champ and was patient with my crappy Portuguese. For 180 reales I left happy as a clam. For reference, the reception area and rooms are just slightly nicer than Tangara and Yankin. I guess that's fair since it costs just slightly more than the Villa Mariana joints. The selection of girls were more to my liking overall than the Vila Mariana team. I can recommend it to those who want to mix it up a bit.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2835468]I am looking forward to leaving the 117 F / (44 C) weather behind and crossing over the equator in September where it's spring in Sao Paulo / Rio.
Daylight does not scare us vampires from Vegas.
We usually stay up till 4 AM here so it's likely I will close up Scandallo on some nights. Alas my burning? Is will I find a travel companion like MR Bearsi, Steve & Elvis and others have written. Because sex IMHO is better if it's over a few days and enjoyed with what you call GFE? Probably some traveling, waking up together, doing adventures. With memories of truly living life to it's fullest.
A short term wifey. Or more? LOL a 10 would be nice, if her spirit matches her looks even better.[/QUOTE]This isn't a tall order but does take some scouting to find your girl. Every guy has their preference of what is a 10 so I would look at all the houses. Scan is usually the first choice. Not all girls there will charge you crazy rates. They don't all get several guys every night. I usually go 3-4 times when I spend a week there and I will see the same girl getting passed on time and time again and they are just waiting for 5 am to come around and leave.
Bomboa has some good girls as well and are reasonable as well.
Connections I met this firecracker who blew my mind. Probably the best session I ever had.
Casarao definitely has hidden gems. Met a few girls I repeated with and had an amazing time with.
Online girls are also not to be missed. I met my super GFE on private55 two years ago. Redhead german brazilian girl with blue eyes, milky white body and a brazilian bunda. She truly was the girl I always dreamed of. I honestly couldn't believe my luck. We spent a week in RJ after meeting 3 times in SP. Was just one of those moments that songs were written about.
Private55 as some people know is kind of the high end site that attracts more gringos and thus are usually more expensive that girls advertise to get those gringo bucks but she was very reasonable at 400 brl for an hour and 1000 brl for an overnight. When we left for RJ she went for fun. She was fairly new so I came at the right time. So just because a place is supposed to be expensive doesn't mean you can't get lucky and get a deal of a lifetime. MCLass, SPLove and linkarosa are also good trusty alternatives.
It is something else to travel with a girl who just fits your every check box and is having the time of her life traveling somewhere she never thought she'd go and with a guy she likes.
It was pretty nice when we went to restaurants she would know what I liked and would order for me (my porto was pretty bad at the time).
A glass bottle of coke, fries and some chicken nuggets (in the shape of dinosaurs if they had them but only the fancy Michelin star places had those).
I've tried to replicate that success as my ruiva fraulein has since departed. But that success has yet to be matched.
My spanish blood flows through me and just as my ancestor I won't give up until I find that buried treasure and conquer once again.
I got introduced to Brazil from Rio / MonteCarlo, Solarium and 4 x 4 termas. I enjoy the time here. Been travelling to Brazil for over 10 years. Eventually to Sao paulo and Scandallo has been my go-to. 5-7 days literally every day at Scandallo.
I was there last week. Few days Rio and then to Scandallo.
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.
I visited all the 3 places in RIO. Top notch services, good very good prices. Total never exceeded between 600-750 BRLs. And exchange rate is top notch, got 4. 8. Please share new locations outside of Brazil that is worth the effort with "LUXURY". (not Germany please. The Romanian girls are too mechanical).
[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2834369]I am preparing for my trip and I am trying to organize sessions with escorts from the sites provided here and Twitter. Let me say that theae girls almost never answer back, and they leave your Whatsapp message on read plenty of times, even with them having stellar reviews on gp guia. What gives? Are Brazilian girls just terrible business women? Escorts in the US (as much of a ripoff as they are) almost always answer back.
I guess in person I'll have to deal with drama in Brazil, am I? I'm not an ugly old guy mind you all. I'm sure plenty of clients of these girls are not great on the eyes. Any opinions on dealing with these broads?[/QUOTE]Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.
[QUOTE=Aristhotle;2834369]I am preparing for my trip and I am trying to organize sessions with escorts from the sites provided here and Twitter. Let me say that theae girls almost never answer back, and they leave your Whatsapp message on read plenty of times, even with them having stellar reviews on gp guia. What gives? Are Brazilian girls just terrible business women? Escorts in the US (as much of a ripoff as they are) almost always answer back.
I guess in person I'll have to deal with drama in Brazil, am I? I'm not an ugly old guy mind you all. I'm sure plenty of clients of these girls are not great on the eyes. Any opinions on dealing with these broads?[/QUOTE]Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.
My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course don't do it upfront!
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2836175]I got introduced to Brazil from Rio / MonteCarlo, Solarium and 4 x 4 termas. I enjoy the time here. Been travelling to Brazil for over 10 years. Eventually to Sao paulo and Scandallo has been my go-to. 5-7 days literally every day at Scandallo.
I was there last week. Few days Rio and then to Scandallo.
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US. I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs. If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.
I visited all the 3 places in RIO. Top notch services, good very good prices. Total never exceeded between 600-750 BRLs. And exchange rate is top notch, got 4. 8. Please share new locations outside of Brazil that is worth the effort with "LUXURY". (not Germany please. The Romanian girls are too mechanical).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2836359]My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course don't do it upfront![/QUOTE]Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.
[QUOTE=LvHobby;2836178]Many of the girls on Twitter also advertise there. I know of 2 Twitter girls that got back to me after I was already on my way back home. But the ones advertising on those online sites seem to be better at getting back to me. Also seem to have GPS with them making money on privacy and onlyfans. 2 others that got back to me wanted deposits through PIX and I am not a sucker so skipped that.
Met a couple of gems from private55. One of them wants to visit me in Vegas which is a no can do. My SO is here.[/QUOTE]Planning to message someone on private55 a few days before I travel to Sao Paulo / Rio this September. I used to do the same on SA because some of those girls get 100's of messages. The internet is ruining in person meetings. Well. Except for those of us here who prefer reality.
I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.
I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2836362]Still a lot of money if you consider all other mandatory expenses. For just a quick 1 hour service. Pernoite would be a different story and somewhat justified, but they won't do it for 700-800.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2836054]This isn't a tall order but does take some scouting to find your girl. Every guy has their preference of what is a 10 so I would look at all the houses. Scan is usually the first choice. Not all girls there will charge you crazy rates. They don't all get several guys every night. I usually go 3-4 times when I spend a week there and I will see the same girl getting passed on time and time again and they are just waiting for 5 am to come around and leave.
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It is something else to travel with a girl who just fits your every check box and is having the time of her life traveling somewhere she never thought she'd go and with a guy she likes.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bearsi. Terrific and detailed info. My plan is similar to what you've described. Search all venues (possibly multiple times) till the notoriously hard-to-catch 10's appear. Then see if there's magic between us. It works if you remain diligent and persistent. Sometimes it's just luck. Then the real fun begins.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2836359]My last visit to Scan in May saw many girls start at 1200 Real but just counter nicely and I got good results. I took 4 over a 3 days period and all took 700-800 eventually. Pro Tip, they prefer to be paid in cash. Of course, don't do it upfront![/QUOTE]I never paid more than 800 for a Scandallo girl on my recent SP visit, but maybe it is me because on this trip I focused primarily on pretty, tier 2, girl next door types and left the tier 1 model types to others.
Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower. A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.
I never negotiate what we are going to do. I rely on my instincts and the vibe established during our get to know ya stage ie the audition. I prefer the element of surprise plus there is no need to prespecify what you want with Brazilian girls unless you want something a little extra like anal sex or bareback sex. I met some great girls in Scandallo on my recent trip including a voluptuous blond from Paraguay, a bubbly Japanese Brazilian girl, a slender and wild Indigenes mixed race girl, and a northern Italian looking gal.
P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.
As I already told before, I propose photo shoots to escorts who want to make a more income and get free professional pics. Most of the girls, not all unfortunately, brazilians or argies, accept. Lower acceptance rate from peruvians and chileans, they tend to be more conservative. Colombians love shoots, but I don't go to Colombia for almost 15 years. The venezuelans I know are managed by gangs, so no deal with them.
But this happened the other way around in Sao Paulo, I mean, I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. I contacted this lovely brunette from a promo models group on facebook, where job offers are posted. We exchanged a few messages showing my work and finally fixed a price and date for a bikini shoot. I was impressed by her boobs, silicon indeed.
The model made no complaints with shooting in a love motel, where we met in a very sunny afternoon, so that was a pink flag for me already. She made a nice modeling job, very nice curves, bikini and topless, but the fun thing happened at the end of the shoot. She received a phone call from a friend, and they were talking about the boates we mention on this group. So, my ears suddenly transformed into radars. And when we were getting ready to leave, I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal.
What do you think about R500 for a quick?. And she said ok, let's do it. So those lovely tits bounced in front of my eyes and I ended up pulling that magnificent black long hair in doggy style for a few minutes next to the pool of the love motel. It was nice relaxation after a sexy photoshoot.
But the story does not end there, I asked if she had a friend who would like to shoot, and she proposed a girl who looked just fine on her Instagram pics and we all met two days later. But unfortunately I didn't like the attitude of her friend and she was a master of Photoshop! She looked so different. So there was no second shoot neither second f*ck! I made only draft pics with my cellphone and I had to pay the taxi of both girls and R200 for their time. Hahahahaha one can't win at all times!
It was kind of frustrating, but I'm still in contact with the brunette who's a very kind woman. She's almost 30, mother of 2. 7 years before she was a sweet creature of god I wish I would have met and f*cked before.
Note: Take a detailed look on the tattoo on her instep so you can see it's the same girl.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2836373]I don't see why Scandallo would lower its prices. They have a great reputation and a steady stream of repeat and first time customers. They really only need a few groups of guys to make their night.
I'm pretty sure there is an expense account customer group. At least that's how I was first invited to a night out there. Every year that goes by I"m less likely to return because I spend more and more time sleeping at night and more and more of my fun time is during daylight hours. I remember lots of good looking girls but basic food.
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I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.
Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.
So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked her.
Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).
My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.
Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.
Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.
[URL]https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/[/URL]
Ok. My first night in Sao Paulo and I decided to try an escort. A girl called Bruna Kalifa was in my sights (link after my report below). I wanted a threesome in hope for some lesbian action on it. Didn't really get that. I'll explain.
So I ask her to bring a friend and she does. The friend was a mixed girl with a thick girl curvy figure. I liked the friend physically speaking, but she may not be physically beautiful for everyone.
Bruna Kalifa herself was a total hottie. What you see in the ad picture is what you get. Skinny but with firm female shape and fake tities. She has a small tattoo right under her left front shoulder (whereas in the pic she doesn't).
My desire was for lesbianism in this threesome and it wasn't great lesbianism. They close mouthed kiss each other, and after kind of almost begging them, I got Bruna to suck her friend's titties. But they wouldn't go down on each other, and laughed and joked about even trying anything else lesbian.
Bruna's friend wasn't much of a freak. Dare I say she was terrible. But Bruna seemed like more of a freak. Her pussy and asshole both tasted clean and delish. Bruna was fun whereas her friend Camilla wasn't. I perhaps think I should have been with only Bruna Kalifa, and not asked for the threesome with her friend. It does look like Bruna Kalifa is worth it for solos action. Don't engage her on a threesome. I don't think she is very bi. But seeing her alone definitely seems like the smarter idea. Bruna sucked cock like a champ and looked amazing.
Bruna was 400 reals for 1 hour, plus the price of the Uber. See her alone. Don't see her with another girl.
[URL]https://mclassbrasil.com.br/acompanhantes/bruna-kalifa/[/URL]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2836427]I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because [b]not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue.[/b] I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. [b]But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.[/b][/QUOTE]I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2836384]
Most Scandallo tier 2 quality girls will ask anywhere from 600 to 1000 and will settle for 600 to 800. A tier 1 girl (model quality) will ask anywhere from 1200 to 2000. [b]My simple rule is offer half and be willing to settle for half plus 200 if I really want the girl and she will not go lower.[/b] A Scandallo Tier 1 girl example: after a 20 to 30 minute drink & audition that went well, a very attractive girl might ask for 1500. I will counter with a friendly 700 counteroffer, and that's that unless the girl counters my counter with 800 or 900 offer in which case, I will usually accept it and off we go. [b]No girl this trip turned down my final offer of half + 200.[/b][/QUOTE]I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2836175]
My number best Luxury place was Scandallo. (I also was there in March). This place has taken a major hit. First last week quite bad / empty. (the manager was claiming it is a school close week etc. , But the very average 5 out of 10 girl was asking 1500. I had the same experience with multiple people. (trust me I am an experienced person. Been to Scandallo atleast 50-75 nights). Just got irritating. 1500 with USD to Reals was around 4. 65 = that is $322? + the 500 entrance ($108) + room 260 ($56) = total = 500 $ give or take. That I can get it in US itself. The whole charm was hot girls in abundance, a place with luxury and prices relatively cheaper that US.[b] I called their manager who I know for years, and gave him some inputs.[/b] If this is the case, people will stop coming here. How much ever you have a great luxury place and easy concept. But 500 $ is just unacceptable. So literally, I left from this place and went to Casarao. My number 1 place is gone. [b]I have a business class ticket in place in April next year and I will be cancelling. Shocker.[/b][/QUOTE]Since you "I called their manager [U]who I know for years, and gave him some inputs[/U]".
Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?
Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?
I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836482]I concur, but I do not think Scandallo cares about the foreigners who patronize the venue. The "Rich" or "well to do" Brasileiro's are the ones making the market. Since SP is the Financial Capital, I'm sure there is plenty of money slouching around. Only if the Brasileiro's start balking at the price and not showing up will the venue take some mitigation measures to reign in prices. As it has been mentioned in previous posts the "Talent is Charged a Fee" to be there, so they at least have to charge Fee+Rate=Quote to make it worthwhile (profit) to be there.
I like this simple strategy. Will employ next trip. It's straightforward and can be adjusted on the fly.
Since you "I called their manager [U]who I know for years, and gave him some inputs[/U]".
Surely you can elaborate on your conversation with the manager, I would (and sure everyone else) be interested in his response to your complaint / inquiry. I would like to know if he expressed an opinion regarding your "Inputs"? Did he show concern when you expressed dissatisfaction with the pricing or was he disappointed when you indicated that you would not be back because of pricing? Or better yet did he lower the pricing on your accord?
Inquiring minds would like to know. Especially if your able to tell us the new pricing structure you were able to broker (for all us customers) so the Scandallo can continue to be a "going concern"?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2836488]I'm very curious on what data this place went by in making the decision to increasing the prices for everyone there. Not only that but they made the rules more strict for the clients and the girls.[/QUOTE]I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.
I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2836427]I don't think a few groups of guys are enough for the girls to make money, because not every guy goes there to fuck, no matter the rates. No sex = no money for the girls, no room or take out fee for the venue. I don't think high entrance fee is an issue, because most of it is consumable. But girls, who are freelancers, can't just raise the rates indefinitely, outpacing the rate of inflation, because at some point even fewer guys will fuck them.[/QUOTE]
When I was younger it was all about getting 2 different girls a day overall spend 2 k reais a day with club fees etc. Some girls may have been great with some avg.
Now that I am older, I rather get 1 hot arm candy for about 2 k a day and spend a few days together and get BBFS and extras. We got tested together.
Last few months at Scandallo spent a week with a magazine model, fashion model, and tv actress. They go there every couple of months when they need extra cash or find a new sugar so yes gems can be found still if you don't mind spending 10 k a week for one or a little over 2 k usd which is an incredible deal still.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2836537]I agree with you about the girls and how they make their money. I was referring to Scandallo the business. I don't think they are very concerned about how much money the girls make, at leasts not enough to lower the entrance fee. The garotas will continue to show up for the prospect of scoring that BRL1,500 date. I know guys who don't go anywhere except Scandallo when they are in Sao Paulo. There is definitely a dedicated fan base.[/QUOTE]Just for comparison to show you what a great deal Scandallo is.
In Brazil it appears they combine VIP Service mingled with dinners, "consumption" and a plethora of girls wandering around trying to meet guys with the most $$$ Same here but "consumption" is never included. (You guys are lucky).
The top 3 clubs here have 200 + dancers at any given time. With 2 basic levels of service.
1st level the general public pays for seating, drinks and pay as you go for dances. Limiting the general admission customer to voyeurism with a few dances. But not as intimate as the VIP area. Still can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars if you have the money and go crazy having never seen a 10 before. These are generic VIP areas for the general public. Girls are usually lined up on weekends with customers waiting to enter. It' a waste of money.
Separating the wheat from the chaff.
2nd level are whales in the VIP rooms. They say, "There's no sex in the VIP rooms" although I think it's possible because the costs are astronomical. Minimums are $5,000 for a reserved booth. Plus whatever you spend there. Champagne isn't cheap. Food delivered, can last all night. These rooms generate more $ than all the 2,000+ general admission customers combined. Now that's consumption!
The top tier girls are sent to those rooms. Girls who "work" these rooms make a minimum of $2,000/ night. They pay up to $150/ night to work at the club. I have seen guys put envelopes of many thousands of dollars of cash in front of these girls propositioning them. These girls drive expensive cars and own multiple homes. So some actually decline offers but some meet clients outside the club. They are not allowed to leave with a customer.
A lot of these girls fly in from SoCal to work weekends, special events and conventions. I have been told John Wayne airport has certain flight with 50% strippers heading to work Vegas weekends. OK some are not just strippers. We have over 20,000 entertainers (licensed) that work in Vegas from the USA mostly. LOL.
One night I was talking to an owner at one of the clubs. I was told VIP clients (whales) support 90% of their business. They have 5,000 customers / night on weekends. The volume is necessary to weed out the whales for our VIP rooms. And it makes the girls happy.
Scandallo is a cheap date by comparison. I can hardly wait. Forgot to mention we all know the USA's top clubs offer "blue balls vs. Complete service" in Brazil".
Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.
I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.
Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.
I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.
Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.
I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.
Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.
Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.
I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.
Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2836683]
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. [b]If you want to avoid the 700 cover[/b], best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.[/QUOTE]Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836752]Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?[/QUOTE]500 yesterday.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2836683]Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.
I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.
Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. 5-8. 5.
I was the only client at that time, so all the girls came and sat where I was on the patio so that I could get a good look at them. I ended up buying a bottle of gin since I was going to be there for at least six hours and found a 22 year old spinner to join me for drinks. Approximately an hour later, a group of locals came in and and they occupied a bunch girls as they bought a bunch of bottles.
Took her up to the room for the first round and she did a pretty good job. Since I had spent the Weekend with another girl from Scandello, I was able to last a longer time, and she had the stamina to keep going till I finally came. Room cost was 260. Her service was BBBJ and CFS with no anal.
I went back downstairs and we got something to eat while I talked with the ISG brother who met up with me in SP all weekend.
Went out for round two with the same girl approx 1. 5 hrs later and it took even longer for me to come. She kept up and took it like a champ, till I finally came. We headed back downstairs and we finished off the bottle, bid my friend goodbye and headed for the airport.
Downstairs, I paid the bill, grabbed my bags, change my clothes in the downstairs bathroom and got in my Uber to the airport slightly drunk and completely spent.
The girl told me that they have three shifts 1-8 pm, 6-2 pm and 8-5 am or something similar (I don't remember the exact hours). Usually girls come in at the start of the shift. If you want to avoid the 700 cover, best time to come in would be around 530 to 630. This way you would see the girls from the first shift and you'll get to see the girls coming in for the second shift and maybe even the third shift if you stay long enough.
I left for the airport at 815 pm, checked in and through immigration in approximately 20 minutes. Since I have status with AA and flying business class, this was easy. I don't know how long it would take if you didn't have status or flying in economy.
Scandello turned out to be a fun afternoon!![/QUOTE]Love how you roll man. Two pops at the best club in the world before your flight. I am the same way. Can never squeeze in enough hotties. Tired? Spent? Fucked out? Yeah but always room for one more experience! Bring it on!
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836752]Has the cover (entrance fee) increased to R700 or was that a special "entertainment / show event" fee charge or just a typo on your part? Can anyone confirm the regular after 7 PM Entry Fee?[/QUOTE]Sorry. Got confused. I haven't been to Dcandello at night since April and forgot what the cover was.
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2836766]500 yesterday.[/QUOTE]Whew!! Good!! Thanks for the update!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2836384]P.S. The girls don't care if a customer pays them in cash out of his pocket in the room after sex or the customer's credit card is charged at the front desk for the girl's service fee by the Scandallo hotel reception which then hands the cash to the girl before the two of you go to your room.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.
Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?
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Among the Clinicas I have seen in this forum, I am considering the following for my 5 Day trip in Sept: Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.
My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty. I am not into the big butt or porno look (heavy, botox lips, goth tattoo look), if this helps.
Out of these Clinica choices above, are there some you would strongly not recommend or vice versa?
Thanks, will report on my journey and experience post Sept. I do plan to go to Scandello, and I'm considering other Boates too as I have read that Scandello prices have shot up (and just good to have a choices and see for yourself).
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2836955]Thanks for the info. Based on this and other reports, it seems the girls will accept being paid after the service in the room, without insisting on being paid up front.
Is the standard service typically single pop in the hour? Is BBBJ & DATY included in the standard service?[/QUOTE]Paying after service is performed is the default at Scandallo and Bomboa. Girls can be paid in advance, but only when a customer chooses to use his credit card to pay for a girl's service instead of cash. I usually bring enough cash to the boate to pay for a girl and I like to put all other expenses on the credit card, but on certain occasions I will find myself short of cash if I decide to have a 2nd girl. That is when the flexibility to charge a girl's service fee comes in real handy.
Passionate DFK, multiple BBBJ's and DATY (up to me) and a whole lot more are all a part of the "standard boate service. " But as always, YMMV, which is why the interview, ie the audition, ie the initial get acquainted drink phase of the relationship is so important, but overall great service is what I expect from all my boate girls and I am seldom disappointed. Service is set for one hour. Most girls are real obliging and will do multiple shots. Going a little into overtime is not a problem.
Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837156]Just got back from Clinica prime. This was my first session since arriving from rio. If this is any representation of the girls of sao paolo, I have to say the difference in quality of girls between rio and sao paolo is like night and day. There were about 7 or 8 girls there, 3 of which I would say were doable for me. Ranging from 5 - 7. I took a session with Alysee. Not sure if that's exactly how you pronounce her name. She was a short, maybe brunette with a girl next door smile. The lady at the desk told me I could only have 30 minutes because she had a booked appointment coming soon. Fine, that's all I wanted anyways. Went into the first room on the left as instructed, and alysee soon followed a few minutes later. Honesty, on closer inspection she had a bit too much makeup on for me and obviously long fake lashes, so I knocked her rating down mentally to a 6. 5. She had a very business like attitude and took a shower first. I took a shower afterwards. She asked me where I was from and that was pretty much all the pre talk. She came close to me and started kissing me with strong lips, not DFK, but nice none the less. She stroked me as I stroked her shaven pussy. I motioned towards the bed and laid on my back and she immediately began oral, pretty good oral in fact, but felt like it was all part of the routine, couldn't have been more than a minute of BBBJ and she reached for the condom. After putting the condom, without prompting she assumed doggie position on all fours. Great. She knows what to do. I entered and man, she had one of those puffy pussies. I don't know if its just a correlation but all the puffy pussies I've tried have been incredible. Maybe its the extra puffy flesh outside that gives us more friction. It was heavenly. We went through a few different positions. Missionary, reverse cowboy. Interestingly, when in missionary, she didn't want to kiss me, turing her head to the side. Odd, because at the beginning she seemed really into kissing. I finished at the 15 minute mark quite happily. Afterwards, I asked her how long she had been working there. My luck, today was her last day working, and tomorrow she'll go back to curatiba. Best 200 reales I've spent in a while.[/QUOTE]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2836991] Prime, Abbobora, Palms, Ora Spa, Tag Mahal, Tangara.
My type is thin-average, young (19-27), 5'3-5'7, and facially pretty.
[/QUOTE]My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.
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[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2751944]I was planning on going to Sao Paulo this year but prices (flight hotel) are just rediculous. Still I miss scandallo and the legendary nights I have had. It got me thinking is there anywhere in the world quite like scandallo?
Just for context I am 33 and limited mongering experience. Also being married for some of those mongering years slowed me down a bit. Still I was able to check out places through Brasil, Colombia Mexico and Germany (just Munich). And the following are compatible but just don't meet the bar set by scandallo in my opinion.
Sao Paulo.
Years ago was at caf FOTO. Yes quality of girls were comparable but prices were not, nor was the quantity of girls. Also no rooms in the place had to go to hotel.
Bamboa has some comparable quality girls but new location so small don't think you can fit all the girls let alone customers on a given night at scandallo.
All other clubs I have been to (casarao, Bahamas etc.) only a handful of quality girls.
Campinas.
Only thing close to scandallo is fazendinha But in the middle of nowhere and quality and quantity varies depending on the day.
Porto alegre.
Gruta azul higher end girls with a lower price but again not enough girls. Tia Carmen also had some gems but the place a little trashy. Domino even more trashy..[/QUOTE]I posted this while ago and wanted to made an update as well a correction:
First the correction in Medellin instead of Luna lunera I meant to say la isla. I was just in Medellin last month and visited Luna luna lunera and was not great granted went later in the night than I should have. La isla is still the best quality and quantity of girls in Medellin I even gave fase II another try actually was worse this time. Second I have since been to Thailand, Cali, Rio, and Tijuana, and will update with venues I previously left out of the last post. The objective is compare posible alternatives to Scandallo (spoiler there are none that match up IMO):
Cali.
Since the last post I have visited Cali twice and two clubs stand out:
Tangas luxury.
This one has an extremely high quality level of girls however very expensive to Cali standards you cannot take a girl out of the place for less than 1 M COP. Not sure of the room rates but not my thing. I probably did not go on peak time but the place is 24 hours. At 10-11 PM there were 15 + and counting but I took out two 9 and a 10 looks wise. This place has potential to rival the quality of scandallo but will need review again I will probably go again to Cali in a few months and give an update. But will never have close to the quantity of girls in scandallo.
Club escoces.
Another place in Cali that can rival the quality but not quantity. I don't think there will ever be much more than 10 girls in the place given the size but quality is on par and price is obviously lower. Worth checking out if in Cali for sure.
Bangkok.
Thermae.
This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls. I have taken 5 total girls from here and all have been 8 or above in terms of service and looks. This is the only place I will note in Thailand because most of the gogo bars have small quantity of girls and all seem to be the same maybe give crezy horse a shout out as they had a good level of quality girls you can see nude to make an informed decision. Clubs like mix and levels have both pros and non pros and involves too much work for me. But overall I think thermae tops my list.
Tijuana.
Hong Kong is probably the one place where you can say the quantity and quality looks wise matches up with scandallo however service is no guarantee. I did have a GFE BBBJ that apparently is rare. While she was great she would not go to my hotel and only sessioned in the motel next to Hong Kong. Also cost for two hours was similar to what I would pay for all night with a scandallo girl. Concept here is different and definitely a lot of eye candy to look at but I found to be expensive to take any girl to the room. I also tried Chicago and a few other clubs in zona norte but Hong Kong is the best. Only recommend if in Tijuana there are plenty of better options in south America for sure.
Rio.
Finally visited 4 X4 twice on my visit to Rio. It meets the expectations set and has a similar feel to scandallo with less girls and not all a the high quality you can expect at scandallo. I did get a 10 in terms of service and looks and repeated with her. Second time I went did not session. Will go back for sure. Also checked out whiskeria 65 and revisited Centaurus that was not that great and also expensive. But 4 X 4 is the best place in Rio and one of the best places in the world for me.
Overall Ranking:
Given these updates I have decided to rank based on my preference of the places I have been granted I have not yet been to Frankfurt to check out the DFK clubs this is pending conclusion scandalo is by far number one on my list:
1- Scandalo. Sao Paulo.
2- Thermae. Bangkok.
3- 4 X 4 - Rio de Janeiro.
4 - Casarao. Sao Paulo.
5 - Tangas Luxury. Cali.
6 - Bahamas-Sao Paulo.
7 - Lido. Bogota.
8 - Bomboa. Sao Paulo.
9 - La Isla. Medellin.
10 - Gruta azul. Porto Alegre.
11- Tia Carmen. Porto Alegre.
12- Fase II. Medellin.
13 - Hong Kong. Tijuana.
14 - Escoces. Cali.
15- Fazendinha. Campinas.
Other notable places I was too lazy to rank this is not in order:
Crazy horse (Bangkok).
All girls nude and could probably break this 15 list but a different concept.
Galo de Ouro (itatinga-Campinas).
The best girls in itatinga but high probably of being scammed robbed or not a great session overall. Run by the Brazilian cartels would not recommend for a tourist (I am Brazilian).
Mustache (campinas).
A bar in the middle of cambui only a few girls and high prices to take out. Basicaly a strip club where the girls play some tease games and you can take out. Has been many years since I went but would prefer fazendinha for quality and quantity.
New locomotion (Missassauga Canada).
Cafe foto (Sao Paulo).
Villa roma (Munich).
Very expensive I think I paid 500+ euros for an hour threesome hot but not worth the price.
Ceasars world / Leierkasten / and Vitalia (Munich).
These places are laufhauses basically apartments the girls rent and you can just do them in there rooms. Did a couple of times most girls don't give BBBJ none or few give GFE and I tried twice ok but at 100 Euros for 30 minutes not my go to.
Ipanema (Singapore).
Pretty trashy place in the mall chose the best girl there but was a 6 at best but service was poor.
New Sagitarious (Belo Horizonte).
Probably on par with gruta azul in PA but would not go to belo just for this place girl I got was a 10 however.
Domino (Porto Alegre).
Lots of girls but low quality would have to stay for a while to find a gem. Pretty trashy place.
Luna Lunera (Medellin).
I will have to check out again at a more peak time. Layout of the club has potential but don't like to cover charge and minimum spend requirement.
My issue with the girl fees at Scandallo is that once a girl steps in her rates has a minimum. Last time I was there a few weeks ago, I saw all ranges of girls. From stunners, average, ordinary, girl next door, midgets and girls I wouldn't be caught dead with. But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. Price structure doesn't favour clients. You will always pay more than elsewhere. Price of the worst looking girl in club is equal to a stunner online.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2836494]I share your curiosity since I have experienced two price (entrance) hikes. However, the entrance fee is not much my concern due to the consumable portion. Now the Talent rates that is another story. I can understand them trying to make a living but sometimes I just laugh at some of the quotes I have received. Overall, I try to have fun and see what my budget gets me. I do like AxelHeyst's cost strategy.[/QUOTE]
As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.
[QUOTE=Foolish;2837220]My small sample size (I have similar tastes), Prime had a few that fit the profile more than Tangara in early April. Didn't visit the others yet.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2837215]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?[/QUOTE]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.[/QUOTE]I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2837215]The way I read it sounded like a mediocre session to me! Glad you enjoyed it. But there are definitely better sessions with hotter girls to be had in SP. The clinicas girls rush thru a 30 minutes session. The girls actually appreciate 60 minutes since many locals guys just do 30 minutes. And it's more relaxed pace and it's assumed you have time for 2 shots with one hour. What happened in Rio?[/QUOTE]Yes it does sound like a mediocre session doesn't it! LOL. I think technically you're right, but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. And physically, she fit me really well. If you know what I mean. She had this giant tattoo on her back, which I loved looking at in doggie style.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]There is a never-ending debate on this web site and on the RJ site about which town has better mongering. It is a given that one can find good looking girls in both towns, so the real question is where is the hunting best? The problem, however, in this highly subjective debate is that everybody has a right to their opinion no matter how cracked in the head their opinion might be. LOL. .
Oh well. You will survive your tip to RJ. But next time check out Sao Paulo and rely on BM's with similar tastes and spending constraints as your own. I think you will find that SP clinicas are nicer and have better looking girls than RJ Prive's. And nothing in RJ is in the same league as SP's top 3 Boates. But the obvious downside is that SP girls and bordellos are generally more expensive than the ones in RJ and SP does not have a beach.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200). Abbobora has nicer rooms than Prime and generally more attractive girls. I would not say the Abbobora girls are nearly twice as attractive as their Prime counterparts.[/QUOTE]What type of girls do you like? I prefer the slim / spinner types.
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[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]It's over, NO it's just beginning. Some offers are actually a better value than you might think.
Only settle for quality vs. Anything else.
There are a few guys here (some I know like Kazeu) that actually know what an 8 or 10 is and what is not. I know a lot of you just want a quick fuck. Fine, Not my interest. I think / hope Sao Paulo / Rio is for more discerning travelers.
I just read GiuseppeBonera post. That he rated HKTJ as comparable to Scandallo in some areas. LOL. I thought so! Captain Solo will like hearing that. Before ISG came on my radar, I lived there.
Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.
I'm screening out anything and everyone that does not offer an 8-10 AND appear to want to "please" the guys they meet. In person at clubs etc and walk away if they are online catfish. Thank you Kazu, GiuseppeBonera, HiddenEye, Elvis, Nounce, DramaFree11, Captain Solo, Steve 9696, Miami Boy1, The Cane, xyztravel, Chicago85 and more. Your tastes are no doubt all different but you have given your insights and it is very much appreciated.
Some things become a blurr. I had to ask my driver in Medellin if I had visited lunalunera he said yes but you turned around and walked out. YEP that's what we do.
So just got my first crazy escort story.
I setup an appointment with a girl name "Hanna". When she came she was not the girl in the picture (I would have still fucked her) BUT she demanded payment first I refused and we argued a bit with google translator. I offered to pay for her Uber and have her leave. ***** went crazy and tried to take my laptop threatening to drop it if I didn't pay. I tried to get it back. She ran for the door, dropping my laptop on the way. I managed to get her out the room but she went ape shit and took the fire extinguisher and continued to bang on the door breaking the smart lock and door in the process. The hotel staff was unaware and she left before they realized what had happened. This costed me 1500 reis for the damages. When the fuck would have just been 300 reis LOL. Sad. LOL.
I am just glad she didn't have a knife or gun or something. 100% crazy *****. Be warned guys.
Might be the last time I call an escort to my place. I will just stuck to the clubs and massage spas from now on.
This is the first time in 10 years a girl have actually caused me major problems.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2837360]As I remember it Abbobora (330) cost nearly twice as much as Prime (200)....[/QUOTE]I think 330 is for 60 minutes while 200 is the new rate for 30 minutes without discount.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2837343].... But no matter how bad looking or fugly, she has a minimum rate of 500. ....[/QUOTE]It can go lower for an above average looking girl. We are conditioned by the price mentioned but that is not the minimum.
Just got one of the worse experience with a girl from photoacompanhantes.
Her page isn't up anymore but this is her fake skokka [URL]https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/osasco/micheli-gatinha-dos-seus-sonhos-br1a3vhmj/[/URL].
The girl that arrived was not the same girl but she asked for payment first. I refused and offered to pay for her Uber to leave.
She wanted the full amount even though I didn't even touch her.
When I asked her to leave she tried to break my laptop. Once I got her out of my room she broke the smart lock in my hotel door forcing me to pay 1500 Reis to replace it.
Horrible girl and horrible person. I learned my lesson.
PLEASE AVOID.
Some notes for newbs. I guess I am one too LOL. I just got careless and too horny and wasn't thinking straight.
* Don't give the her your room number. Always say that you will meet her in the lobby. I have noticed that if you give the girl your room number she will just show up at the door and it will make it harder to get her to leave even she is cat fishing.
* ALWAYS search the number on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] first to see if you get any hits first. I got lazy here.
* Don't be girls to your apartment. It is a lot safer at hotels where there are more procedures in place for these kind of things.
* Just find a girl in a club or massage. Really. Having a girl in your apartment is fun, but you are also taking a big risk since some of them might be crazy as fuck.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2836425]... I booked a model for a sexy shoot, didn't know she was actually an escort. ...
I made the definitive question "voce faz programa?" (are you a working girl? And she said yes, I do. (sim eu faco programa) and of course I made the immediate proposal..,[/QUOTE]Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2837341]Thermae.
This place is probably my second favorite venue in the world mostly because of the objectiveness of the place and also low cost for high quality looks of the girls....But overall I think thermae tops my list.
.[/QUOTE]I am not disagreeing with you. I am just surprised that you rank it the second above many other places in Brazil and I like it, LOL. I think few would dare to rebuke you since you are Brazilian, hehe. Baccara at Cowboy has pretty large quantity of girls, and is easier to find better looking girls but cost quite a bit more.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2837449]
Last couple days I have been messaging online high end escort / models web sites in Brazil, I get quotes as high as brl $3000 and as low as brl 500. They are 9's and 10's (by what they look like online) I think there's a trend here.
[/QUOTE]I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble or waste your time.
I heard MeuPatrocinio is a popular alternative to Seeking in Brazil, supposed to be the largest sugar dating app in Brazil, but I haven't tried it, so can't vouch for it. Give it a try and report back
Well, hope is a fantastic thing!
In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!
LOL.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2837462]Great report but I think you already secretly hoped this would happen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2837475]I doubt a true 9 or 10 would quote you 500 reals, but if she does, this is a no brainer then. I would not rely on the photos you see online, especially on escort websites (in any country), because they are heavily edited, and also, bait and switch is common. Heck, some guys meet girls that they saw online with faces blurred, and wonder why a crocodile showed up. Your best bet is Scandallo, or any high end club or high end terma. SA sucks in Brazil. I would skip escort websites entirely, unless you like to gamble [/QUOTE]For the top SP escort websites, clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55, it's most often the same girl since the girl needs to pay to be on these sites and the sites do some certifying. Of course heavy photoshopping is common and old photos can happen. You should also cross check in gpguia for reviews and prioritize those with positive reviews.
I've been going to SP for more than 2 years now and I've seen girls start off in the clinicas (getting 100 r) or on PA charging 200 r to advertising 700-800 r on the high end sites. Competition is high in SP and new girls have to start off low before they get a local following and confidence to charge higher prices.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2837479]Well, hope is a fantastic thing!
In the case of this brunette, she didn't show many pink flags. Some other times the escort-o-meter shines!!
LOL.[/QUOTE]I found a huge group based on what you said. LOL.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837413]but it was a sigh of relief after rio for me. Visually just much more attractive than most of the experiences I had in rio, which I'll write about later, but haven't gotten around to it just yet. [/QUOTE]Sounds like you are in São Paulo camp! I prefer the diversity of girls in SP also. That's why guys should go to both Rio and sp and see what they like. The city experience and girl experience are very different in each city. And every guy has their own preference.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2837341]...
Given these updates I have decided to rank based on my preference of the places I have been granted I have not yet been to Frankfurt to check out the DFK clubs this is pending conclusion scandalo is by far number one on my list:
1- Scandalo. Sao Paulo.
2- Thermae. Bangkok.
3- 4 X 4 - Rio de Janeiro.
4 - Casarao. Sao Paulo.
5 - Tangas Luxury. Cali.
6 - Bahamas-Sao Paulo.
7 - Lido. Bogota.
8 - Bomboa. Sao Paulo.
...
[/QUOTE]I don't want to comment about the list above, except wondering how a place like Thermae in 2023 can even be on the list.
A tip for guys out there who are within short flying distance of Germany and who are into short times with different lookers (rather than into repeats with the same "girlfriendly" girl):
FKK Sharks in Frankfurt, where I was yesterday after not having visited for months, has 8's and 9's who ask for 100 euro for standard service, usually BBBJ + intercourse. That is under 600 real. It is twice the pre-covid rate but it still beats Scandallo's. And the whole experience (girls stark naked on high-heels etc.) is certainly on a par with Scandallo's! If you fly to SP for Scandallo only, consider flying to Germany for FKKs Sharks and a few other FKKs as an alternative. I'm posting this as a quick tip to Sao Paulo aficionados, not in order to derail the thread.
[QUOTE=XXL;2837525]I don't want to comment about the list above, except wondering how a place like Thermae in 2023 can even be on the list.
A tip for guys out there who are within short flying distance of Germany and who are into short times with different lookers (rather than into repeats with the same "girlfriendly" girl):
FKK Sharks in Frankfurt, where I was yesterday after not having visited for months, has 8's and 9's who ask for 100 euro for standard service, usually BBBJ + intercourse. That is under 600 real. It is twice the pre-covid rate but it still beats Scandallo's. And the whole experience (girls stark naked on high-heels etc.) is certainly on a par with Scandallo's! If you fly to SP for Scandallo only, consider flying to Germany for FKKs Sharks and a few other FKKs as an alternative. I'm posting this as a quick tip to Sao Paulo aficionados, not in order to derail the thread.[/QUOTE]The attitude of girls in FKK can't be compared to that of clubs in Brazil. So called 9's and 10's in FFK's have this aloof and don't want to work attitude. Yo can't compare the passion and energy of Brazil to Germany. Also good looking FFK girls now look for clients who pay 200 E for 1 HR clients. One of the reasons I have reduced frequenting Germany.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2837467]I am not disagreeing with you. I am just surprised that you rank it the second above many other places in Brazil and I like it, LOL. I think few would dare to rebuke you since you are Brazilian, hehe. Baccara at Cowboy has pretty large quantity of girls, and is easier to find better looking girls but cost quite a bit more.[/QUOTE]Thanks I will check out baccara next time in Bangkok! I went to Bangkok shortly after reopening not everything was full swing. I ranked thermae high given the no BS concept and number and % of good looking girls in a small space. I do need to revisit Thailand as a whole as I went for the first time last year and lots of trial and error. Now I know the ropes I can focus in on the best places.
Overall service of brasileiras is no match for anywhere in the world maybe rivaled by Colombia. Not sure if this is due to me being local and fluent in Spanish and Portuguese. My biggest issue when traveling to non Portuguese / Spanish speaking countries where there is some loss of translations for girls with English as a second language so service may lack. If I were to rank based solely on service my top five would be solely Brazilian places LOL.
You can drop that image of her from skokka into google image search and discover that its a picture of some instagram model named Sara Orrego. Maybe something to try in the future.
[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2837459]Just got one of the worse experience with a girl from photoacompanhantes.
Her page isn't up anymore but this is her fake skokka [URL]https://br.skokka.com/acompanhantes/osasco/micheli-gatinha-dos-seus-sonhos-br1a3vhmj/[/URL].
The girl that arrived was not the same girl but she asked for payment first. I refused and offered to pay for her Uber to leave.
She wanted the full amount even though I didn't even touch her.
When I asked her to leave she tried to break my laptop. Once I got her out of my room she broke the smart lock in my hotel door forcing me to pay 1500 Reis to replace it.
Horrible girl and horrible person. I learned my lesson.
PLEASE AVOID.
Some notes for newbs. I guess I am one too LOL. I just got careless and too horny and wasn't thinking straight.
* Don't give the her your room number. Always say that you will meet her in the lobby. I have noticed that if you give the girl your room number she will just show up at the door and it will make it harder to get her to leave even she is cat fishing.
* ALWAYS search the number on gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] first to see if you get any hits first. I got lazy here.
* Don't be girls to your apartment. It is a lot safer at hotels where there are more procedures in place for these kind of things.
* Just find a girl in a club or massage. Really. Having a girl in your apartment is fun, but you are also taking a big risk since some of them might be crazy as fuck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2837475]I heard MeuPatrocinio is a popular alternative to Seeking in Brazil[/QUOTE]They have a lot more of model types in SP on MP vs Seeking, but like you, I haven't actually tried it out (only heard of 3rd degree success).
Definitely a lot of work to get to the goal line, but sounds like DC is willing to do the work!
F.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Foolish;2837619]They have a lot more of model types in SP on MP vs Seeking, but like you, I haven't actually tried it out (only heard of 3rd degree success).
Definitely a lot of work to get to the goal line, but sounds like DC is willing to do the work!
F.[/QUOTE]SA in Colombia was so successful I ad to turn it off. (OK they stopped me, LOL) I still have contacts I never had time to even message let alone meet. In 3 months time. And I did meet 10's there. Nice, intelligent people. Still in touch. If meupatrocinio is even 25% as good as SA in Colombia, well it will be worth the time. Thanks guys, I forgot I was going to sign up but got distracted. Meanwhile it's beginning to seem that I will visit Rio maybe only 2-3 nights. 10 nights Sao Paulo .. Depends on who I meet an if they want to travel. MiamiBoy1.
To each his own. I would take Rio over SP any day, My last trip to Brazil was for a fortnight, split 7 days in Rio and SP. I increased my stay in Rio and cut the stay in SP and didn't regret it. You should have stepped out of centro to Copa and elsewhere.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2837361]For me personally, the quality of the women in rio was terribly disappointing. I stayed in centro. Went to 4 x4, 6 times over the course of a couple of weeks. Went to 502 5 times, went to VM 2 times. Hit up the 2 clubs that Vagabundo always talks about. In summary, there are some decent looking women there, but most are ugly, fat, too old or any combination of the above. I did session 2 times at 4 x4, with some decent looking women, but I'm very quick, and I don't particularly like sitting around with the girls chatting after screwing, especially since my portuguese is bad. So I'm paying 400 reales for a a 30 minute session, with a decent girl, not a 9, or stunner, I'd say a hard 7. A good looking fuckable girl. For me even these were hard to find. They were there but not in abundance. I also had some bad experiences with some girls that had rave reviews on gparena. Ok, not bad experiences, but their looks left much to be desired, they girls I've found actually try really hard to please. It was just hard to get over how unattractive they were to me. I didn't venture down to copacobana so others may have a better time down there. I am also not into fat women, nor negritas, so that probably has something to do with it as well. So take that into consideration.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2837677]SA in Colombia was so successful I ad to turn it off. (OK they stopped me, LOL) I still have contacts I never had time to even message let alone meet. In 3 months time. And I did meet 10's there. Nice, intelligent people. Still in touch. If meupatrocinio is even 25% as good as SA in Colombia, well it will be worth the time. Thanks guys, I forgot I was going to sign up but got distracted. Meanwhile it's beginning to seem that I will visit Rio maybe only 2-3 nights. 10 nights Sao Paulo .. Depends on who I meet an if they want to travel. MiamiBoy1.[/QUOTE]Which town in Colombia did you use SA? Medellin? Bogota? I'm planning to visit Colombia in a couple of months in my way to SaoPaulo but not sure which town of those I should visit.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2833941][URL]https://www.gp-guia.net[/URL] Use Google translate if you don't understand Portuguese.[/QUOTE]Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated!
[QUOTE=MexicanCuban;2837774]Which town in Colombia did you use SA? Medellin? Bogota? I'm planning to visit Colombia in a couple of months in my way to SaoPaulo but not sure which town of those I should visit.[/QUOTE]You probably land in Bogota. SA is not cheap and the girls are not exactly into P4 P (some are) but the quality in Bogota is amazing. Seeking takes time. If you have a 2 weeks minimum before you land, it's worth it. You would be fine without if you just want sex. You don't need it.
You mean brazilians of the japanese community?
Try clubs in Liberdade neighborhood for civilians. I met a curvy one in Cafe Photo, tall, curvy japanese brazilian, very interesting if you like a lot of flesh.
You should go to Cafe Photo very early because talent there disappears in matter of minutes. This is why many ISGers don't like that club.
[QUOTE=Alohagd;2837811]Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2837388]I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.[/QUOTE]Out of the high-end clinicas (palm, Sharon, lotus, taj, Ora), which one has a better roster if you had to choose the top 3? Also, Do they have food or activities in clinicas, else how do you spend time in between sessions?
[QUOTE=Alohagd;2837811]Hi fellas,
Thanks for the link. I tried to find some Asian providers but no luck. Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?
Much appreciated! [/QUOTE]Japanese Brazilian girls are scattered all around. You just have to keep your eyes open when you are out hunting. Last trip I enjoyed the company of a perky Japanese Brazilian spinner in Scandallo and an athletic, physically fit Japanese Brazilian girl in the Palm. On previous trips I have met Japanese Brazilian and mixed-race part Japanese girls in Bomboa and Casarao as well.
One word of caution: Japanese Brazilian girls ARE not the same as Japanese Japanese girls. It is not even close. So, if you desire the real thing, go to Japan or pre-Covid go to Macau. Japanese Brazilian girls are Brazilian. Their personalities, their physical bodies, their sexual attitudes are 95% Brazilian which is not a bad thing, but it ain't the same as being with a Japanese Japanese girl. Just saying.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2837964]Out of the high-end clinicas (palm, Sharon, lotus, taj, Ora), which one has a better roster if you had to choose the top 3? Also, Do they have food or activities in clinicas, else how do you spend time in between sessions?[/QUOTE]I went tp the Palm, Sharon, and Lotus this last trip. My favorite high end clinica was the Palm. I went there 4 times during my last trip. 2 out of my 4 Palm girls were fucking outstanding, boate quality, and absolutely repeat worthy. The 3rd girl was good and had some future potential, and my 4th girl was friendly and nice, but not exactly my type body wise, so I did not click with her. IMHO, the key to success in these high-end clinicas is the ability to pick the right girl from a few visual clues in her heavily photoshopped pics.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2838059]Japanese Brazilian girls are scattered all around. You just have to keep your eyes open when you are out hunting. Last trip I enjoyed the company of a perky Japanese Brazilian spinner in Scandallo and an athletic, physically fit Japanese Brazilian girl in the Palm. On previous trips I have met Japanese Brazilian and mixed-race part Japanese girls in Bomboa and Casarao as well.
One word of caution: Japanese Brazilian girls ARE not the same as Japanese Japanese girls. It is not even close. So, if you desire the real thing, go to Japan or pre-Covid go to Macau. Japanese Brazilian girls are Brazilian. Their personalities, their physical bodies, their sexual attitudes are 95% Brazilian which is not a bad thing, but it ain't the same as being with a Japanese Japanese girl. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to see the downside.
[QUOTE=Alohagd;2837811].... Anyone have a good twitter link or anything for legit Japanese / Brazil providers?...[/QUOTE]You can try search for [B]kaoani[/B]. They tend to know each other so her account will lead you to more, and probably a lot more than Japanese if you know what you are looking for. She is typical of what AH is talking about. There are some mixed race ones that don't look like Asian.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2837580]Thanks I will check out baccara next time in Bangkok! I went to Bangkok shortly after reopening not everything was full swing. ....[/QUOTE]My experience is before COVID. A few things you need to know. This place is setup to get as much money of the customer as they can. It has the best looking girls but more plastic. The gogo will ask for a minimum number of drinks before you take the girls. You may need to go early to get the best looking girls because that is what many Asians do. The service is not that good if you are not a regular so you may spend double of what you spend at Thermae for very little. They may ask you to use their short time room across the street. I mentioned it earlier because it has more girls.
Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return!
[QUOTE=WayneRoberts;2838104]I'm trying to see the downside.[/QUOTE]No downside per se. I'm sure he's saying that Japanese girls in Japan have a very different vibe. Super submissive. Like you are the man and I must serve you. How would you like me to? It's a bit hard to describe but def make you feel like a king.
Brasileiras are awesome (more awesome?) in their own special way. But it's def different.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2838153]Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home....[/QUOTE]What you have to look out for is in the tight space that some may grab your phone but it does not seem that it will happen in this building, and watch out the cyclists on the street. This area actually has some high end shops but it is bordering the bad area. Going north is an area with very large concentration of crack addicts that is several times larger than the one in Medellin. Going east is similar. Avoid these areas at night if you are not sure because most places are closed and deserted.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2838153]Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return![/QUOTE]The walkups of Hong Kong come to mind with obviously better service, its Brazil.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2838351]The walkups of Hong Kong come to mind with obviously better service, its Brazil.[/QUOTE]If you're talking about the same walk ups of Hong Kong that I remember from back in 2011, building 134 was a much different experience. Much dirtier. Haha.
Address is Rua Silvio Sacramento 132, Pinheiros.
I found this place from [URL]gpguia.net[/URL]. Tucked away in this small cobbled street, there was no sign, I thought I was at the wrong place at first, theres a dedicated parking area with an attendant out front, and the building looks way to big to be just a massage parlor. When I went inside I immediately knew I was in the right place. There was a sign with all the prices on the reception counter. 270 for an hour. Then there were other prices for a 4 hands massage, I honestly don't remember what the price was exactly. Wasn't interested. I actually asked if there was a half hour option. I never take that long. The receptionist said that the half hour was 240 vs 270 for the hour, not much of a difference. So an hour it was. I was a bit dissapointed that there was no presentation. The receptionist, showed me pictures of the available girls on her phone. None of the pictures had faces, which I hate. But I was already there. I've told this to myself more times than I can count. I usually doesn't end well. I picked a Bela, a morena with a nice looking ass, according to the photos.
The receptionist leads me into the next room, which is a gigantic waiting room. It was empty at the time, but I was left impressed. It looked very comfortable. We went down a hall and she ushered me into a room. The room had one of those beds with the thick plastic covers on it. Then off to the side was the bathroom. They even had some slippers for you. I would say the rooms were a bit nicer than clinica prime.
I sat waiting for bela for less than 5 minutes. I was a bit anxious having never seen her face. She arrives, opens the door, and I'm immediately disappointed in my head. But I try not to show it. She's definitely had a kid, I can see the sagginess in her breasts. Minimal visible baby damage on her stomach, it more had to do with the feeling of the loose skin when you rub your hands over it. She had braces, which I actually like. Its a wierd turn on for me. Personality wise, she was pleasant, I don't think I've ever found an unpleasant girl in Brazil. Wait, I take that back. The one girl I did in VM, in the dirtiest room I've ever been in, she had an attitude! But man, it was a good fuck. Worth the 70 I paid at the time. Anyways back to bela. I took a shower, and she followed.
I waited for her naked on the bed, watching her as she showered. I thought to myself, she doesn't look all THAT bad from this angle. My disappointment waned as I tried to be positive about the situation. After she finished her shower, she joined me in bed and started a light massage, with some white lotion. Who knows what that stuff is. She rubbed it all over my chest and started rubbing her body against mine. Eventually she made her way to my cock. Up he stood. She put herself into a 69 position with her on top and started giving me a BBBJ. Decent, not the greatest BJ in the world, but decent. One of those bjs where you know you're never going to cum, but hey, it still feels pretty good. I think she sucked my dick for a good 10 minutes and I decided it was time to get to the real action. I put her on her back and she put the condom on me. She immediately went to legs over my shoulders position as I pounded her. Then moved into cowgirl, this is where I think she came, but I'm not sure. Who knows, I don't care. Not that kind of guy. Sorry. As she was coming, my dick lost a bit of steam. I don't know what it was, but I felt like I'd lost the wave. So I told her to get into doggie, cause that usually gets me hard again. She obliged, but the wave never came back. I banged her for 5 minutes or so in doggie, but I could feel my power fading. Thats the worst. She was definitely trying, I could actually feel her squeeze my dick with her pussy. Realizing what had happened she took off my condom and starting giving me a BBBJ again. Another 10 minutes of BBBJ, and we decided we should probably take a break. We just laid in bed together for 5 minutes or so, chatting in my broken portuganish. I said, we should try again now, She started with BBBJ again and I was hard again quickly. Not wanting to lose the opportunity again, I said lets move right into doggie. Pounded her for about 20 strokes before coming in doggie style. Funny thing is, in my mind I had said to myself, I'd be okay not cumming since I didn't find her too attractive.
So bela herself, I would give a 5 physically, but a 9 for effort. Would not repeat with her. Will probably not go back just because there is no presentation. Oh, I got a 50 real discount because I said I was a member of [URL]gpguia.net[/URL]. So it ended up costing 220 for the hour.
Am returning to Sao Paulo in October, and appreciate the current information. Being a budget hobbyist, Building 134 sounds very appealing.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2838153]Gold mine it is. I made a visit today. I had heard many bad things about this neighborhood and not knowing what to expect, I left my cell phone at home.
I recognized the building immediately as the building with the "wavey" balconies. Walked right past the guy in front and the two guys at the desk immediately inside like I knew what I was doing. There were stairs on the left and 2 elevators on the right, 1 obviously broken, the other, I never saw anyone use.
I walked all the way to the top, 9th floor. On each floor there are 2 sides, a left side and a right side as you're going up. On a few floors the left side, there was some disco balls lighting up the area. On the right side on each floor there are areas with seating and tables. A saw some guys just sitting around drinking.
The staircase is small and it can be tight going up. I went at around 1:30 in the afternoon and there were plenty of dudes there, just climbing up and down the stairs. In a strange way I felt a sort of comraderie, all suffering the same stairs in search of the same thing.
Now onto the girls. Ok, I am going to say it. I think the talent here was generally better than Bogota santa fe street girls. Especially in recent times. Santa fe of 2019 would edge this place out, but all my recent trips to santa fe have been dissapointing. I excplicity exclude the clubs of santa fe. The santa fe clubs can be much better depeding on the time / day of the week. In 134 I saw about 30 or so girls. I'd say 3 of which I would do.
I ended up with Yasmine from the 6th floor. I asked her how much? She said 50. Lets go. The rooms are small, much smaller than the average santa fe room. No aircon, just a fan. The room reminded me of the room I had sessioned in in VM, just a bit cleaner. There was enough space for a bed and a room to stand. Not much else.
Yasmine turned out to be really nice. Never did I feel like she was trying to pull something on me. She didn't even ask for money up front. She made some small talk and then we both got undressed and got down to it. Her face was not great, maybe a 5, with some acne scarring. But she had a kind smile and a kind personality. It may be hard to understand, since I don't speak portuguese. It was just sort of a sense I got from her.
The sex was quick. A covered BJ. Then some missionary, I liked looking down at her face and her smooth skin with a tattoo under her breasts. Her pussy was a bit on the loose side for me, but I turned her over into doggie, and the view helped me out. I finished fast and was happy with the experience. I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. You never regret getting someones number. You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.
A great 50 reals spent. The area was not nearly as bad as I thought it would be, next time I'll probably bring my phone. A good experience overall and I will return![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2838153] I thought about getting her whatsacpp but never did. [b]I always tell newer mongers to always get numbers. [u]You never regret getting someones number.[/u] You just never use it. I regret a bit not getting this girls number.[/b][/QUOTE]You'll never regret having gotten the number! You can throw it away (delete) later. But when you have downtime or wanting activity, you'll regret [U]not[/U] having it.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2838692]If you're talking about the same walk ups of Hong Kong that I remember from back in 2011, building 134 was a much different experience. Much dirtier. Haha.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but which did you enjoy more Fuji building or building 134?
Thanks, SocratesNY all your good advice worked for me. I relied on Bradesco ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. Got all my cash withdrawals during the week or Friday at the latest. The SIM was a problem cause my iPhone is locked. Vivo did sell me the SIM. I stayed in Moema to walk around to all the clinicas. Safe area.
Luckily all the Clinica's, Boates, and Shops I visited had free Wifi internet connection.
Scandallo.
The return to Scandallo was fantastic! I got there at 8 pm missing the window to reduce consumption price. Didn't care, the plan was to go Wed and Thurs ballads nights, find as many garotas that look a curvey Meghan Markle, which is my type, and get BBBJ and DT. Negotiate with one and add her girlfriend for duplos threesome sessions.
For this trip, I used advice from the board and made a laminated color copy of my passport to carry as ID. Kept the original locked in the hotel room safe. That worked fine. It did the trick every place I needed to show ID Scandello, Casaro, Vivo store, Rio Branco 156 building in Centro, Rio Branco 185 building Centro) I kept the original passport locked away.
Back to Scandallo, she gives me the ID back and card to charge drinks.
Moments later the security guy moved toward my direction with a big smile, he says 'Familia' Haha he remembered the reais tips I gave him when I got locked in the place on a Sunday morning.
Take the elevator up to the second floor.
I love the moment of anticipation before the doors open, swishing the views and perfumed scents of scandallos.
My style is wearing stylish clothes in Scandallo as a matter of personal preference. There is no need to dress nicely but that is my comfort choice and coming on midweek nights with bands.
I did briefly see the dwarf chic with her girlfriend with the tig bitties. She plopped those bigguns in my face but that wasn't on the bucket list.
Instead, I went up to meet two garotas, that fit my Meghan Markle type. We grab one of the tables in the last row, mid-way between the door entrance and bathroom. I call over the waiter to find more chairs for us which he does.
I explained in portospanglish everything we will do in the room and I tell them $600 reais each is the price for the hour. Don't care how much she charges or if her girlfriend is more or whatever price they ask other gringos. Don't know didn't care. Both agreed. Next, I tell them they can order Gin and tonic or Gin and a mixernothing else. I don't give garotas the option of ordering expensive drinks on my dime, and I won't budge from the $600 reais offer.
She and her girlfriend mull over both offers, and both give me a huge mushy kiss to seal the deal.
During this trip, my Porto Spanish improved, able to hold a half-decent conversation with garotas talking about music, and money, the illusion of passion is going strong. So the three of us are sitting laughing, singing out loud with the band, drinking, and DFK each other, the chicas are tonguing each other too, and I join in a three-way tonguing session. That was fun. A bit of public spectacle and we didn't care. After the second round of kissing and drinks off we go. Back on the elevators, high-five the security guys, and up the stairs to the cashier.
From my last trip and the board, I knew it is possible to charge the Garotas $600 reais session to the credit card. Nice option. Today I wasn't conserving cash on hand so no problem to pay cash after the deed. This time I remembered the cashier's name and specifically asked for one of the larger rooms.
While waiting there were two couples in front of us, the guys proudly told me they were paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil reais on their cards to each of the garotas. Not trying to cause a debate about scandallo garotas pricing only reporting what I paid and the guys in front of me said.
Anyhow I felt pretty good about negotiating with my garotas. Both of them were happy and I was happy with two meghan markle types on their knees sucking and slobbering BBBJ on the knob.
Casaro visit Next up.
Last night was pretty good at Casarao.
Not the packed crowd of a Friday night, however, plenty of garotas, and some surprisingly good talent.
Fun time!
PS .. a photo copy of your passport will suffice as ID to get into these clubs.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2839595]Last night was pretty good at Casarao.
Not the packed crowd of a Friday night, however, plenty of garotas, and some surprisingly good talent.
Fun time!
PS .. a photo copy of your passport will suffice as ID to get into these clubs.[/QUOTE]A United States state driver's license will suffice as well and I assume this form of documentation would suffice for Canadian and European driver's license holders as well.
Cafe Photo is the only SP boate I am aware of that requires customer fingerprint recognition for entry, in addition to the driver's license signup requirement on the 1st visit. I went there one night in June and had a pretty good time with a slender branca. I will post a review soon. But when I asked the host why the club wanted my fingerprint, he said fingerprints shorten the wait time to register a guest and set up his account tab. I said I don't mind waiting the extra minute or two to register the old-fashioned way with an ID. He smiled and said most customers appreciated the new method. KKK. Sure.
Casaro visits on Friday and Saturday night around midnight.
Ii's freaking packed with a bunch of swinging dicks. Thought I was in the wrong place.
Way too many effing guys. Seriously. Plus it's smokey like hell in there.
Must be getting old. The music isn't my style, but garotas are economico price so I stayed. It was standing room only.
Twenty minutes later a couple of hotties blonde brancas approach me. The first thing I did was check for my phone. Ya never know in a crowded standing-room-only club.
We chatted in Porto Spanglish she was very attractive blond but her girlfriend had a better vibe.
Moved the conversation to the girlfriend. Then and got her a drink.
I am only drinking whiskey, Chivas regal 18 years she can have the same or nothing. We started drinking a lot, chatting, talking, and laughing she shared wassap and all the pictures on her phone and Instagram. We hit it off.
We leave casaro to go next door, I pay consumption at the exit, and the security guy gives me a plastic cup to have my drink to go.
Sowhat happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Well, the first time I ever got to keep the cash for services not rendered. She grabs a towel wipes her face, smiles and leaves. Thought heard her puking up in the hallway.
I leave too taking Uber back to the hotel.
Very early the next morning she sends half a dozen apology messages and naked pics on wassap saying how sorry she was about the last night. We can meet again for half the price, she will do better. Etc,
[QUOTE=Tochka;2839625]This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue. She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything! Well, the first time I ever got to keep the cash for services not rendered. She grabs a towel wipes her face, smiles and leaves. Thought heard her puking up in the hallway. I leave too taking Uber back to the hotel. Very early the next morning she sends half a dozen apology messages and naked pics on wassap saying how sorry she was about the last night. We can meet again for half the price, she will do better. Etc,[/QUOTE]Every single time you think you've seen / heard it all there's always a new one! LOL!
[QUOTE=Tochka;2839451]
Take the elevator up to the second floor.
I love the moment of anticipation before the doors open, swishing the views and perfumed scents of scandallos.
While waiting there were two couples in front of us, the guys proudly told me they were paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil reais on their cards to each of the garotas. Not trying to cause a debate about scandallo garotas pricing only reporting what I paid and the guys in front of me said.
Anyhow I felt pretty good about negotiating with my garotas. Both of them were happy and I was happy with two meghan markle types on their knees sucking and slobbering BBBJ on the knob.
[/QUOTE]Love the report and sounds like you are having a blast.
Me too, love the anticipation when elevator door opens at Scandallo.
As for guys paying 2 mil and 1. 5 mil, were they gringos or locals?
Man, you first get a duo for R600 each girl in Scandallo. Ok, sounds possible during pandemics.
Then you get a free of charge service from a Casarao Rua Augusta GP??
Yeah sure, money aint for nothing and the chicks for free.
Come on!
[QUOTE=Tochka;2839625]
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2839903]Man, you first get a duo for R600 each girl in Scandallo. Ok, sounds possible during pandemics.
Then you get a free of charge service from a Casarao Rua Augusta GP??
Yeah sure, money aint for nothing and the chicks for free.
Come on![/QUOTE]R600 for a duo in Scandallo at any time should be easy.
The girls know it would be easier work for 2 of them to get you off.
Especially so if they're friends.
Maybe not the top tier garotas.
On the free BBBJ, maybe she was drunk and knew she was going to throw up, and was embarassed.
Or maybe she felt her period starting to drip out.
Odd but plausible.
Oh yeah, R600 makes sense for 6's GPS at Scandallo.
Lower than 7's not on my list.
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2840020]R600 for a duo in Scandallo at any time should be easy.
The girls know it would be easier work for 2 of them to get you off.
Especially so if they're friends.
Maybe not the top tier garotas.
On the free BBBJ, maybe she was drunk and knew she was going to throw up, and was embarassed.
Or maybe she felt her period starting to drip out.
Odd but plausible.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU[/URL]
[QUOTE=Jan156;2840596]Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I can't help you with the map. I just wanted to say I hope you're back mongering in Brazil. Your reports were almost first class.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2840735]Your reports were almost first class.[/QUOTE]That should be "always", not almost.
I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.
You can do as I just did. Click on the links and see what you find out. I can't do all your work for you. Or Call them.
[QUOTE=Jan156;2840596]Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2837388]I prefer Abboboro to Prime. Over many SP trips, including my most recent May / June trip, I consistently seem to have more fun at Abboboro than at Prime and I find Abboboro girls are on average more attractive. Factoid: I went to Abboboro 5 times while I only went to Prime one time this last trip.
Interestingly, it was during my last trip, that Abboboro management started doing something new: Customers always had to pay the full price of 350 br for 60 minutes in advance at Abboboro, but now the girl at the front desk takes the girl's cut, 200 br, out of the total payment and places the money on the nightstand next to the bed in the assigned room. The girl is allowed to take the cash left for her when the session is over. I first experienced this bifurcated payment method at high-end SP clinicas like the Palm, Lotus Lounge and Sharon Premium. I like it because it emphasizes to the girls exactly where the cake is coming from and who they should take good care of.
Here is the SP price comparison: 1. A regular clinica like Abboboro, 200 goes to the girl / 150 to the house. 2. a high end clinical like the Palm, 350 to the girl (customers pay the girl directly after the session ends) / 400 to the house or in total 2 x the Abboboro price. 3. Scandallo or Bomboa with a tier 2 girl, 700 to 800 for the girl, 500 to the house, and 240 (approximately) for a room or exit fee to take the girl out of the club. Call it 1500 total or 2 x the Palm price.[/QUOTE]Whats the address for Abboboro. Will be in SP on Thursday. Going to celebrate my bday in Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841005]I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.[/QUOTE]Sadly. You are in the wrong city for strip clubs and escort agencies. There are none or at least any ones that are good enough to care about.
[QUOTE=Rahsta;2841081]Whats the address for Abboboro. Will be in SP on Thursday. Going to celebrate my bday in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Spelled Abbobora. Just google maps it.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841005]I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.[/QUOTE]You shoulda done your research before booking a hotel.
The only reason to ever have your hotel close to any airport is because you want no play, and you're focused strictly on flying out.
Maybe the right order should have been:
1). Find out a good hotel that allows girls in. And is close enough to the airport.
2). Book said hotel then.
The good thing is. GRU is only about 1 hour from the good parts of SP.
If you're really interested in getting some play, you can cancel your current booking and get a hotel in Moema or Jardins.
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2841112]You shoulda done your research before booking a hotel.
The only reason to ever have your hotel close to any airport is because you want no play, and you're focused strictly on flying out.
Maybe the right order should have been:
1). Find out a good hotel that allows girls in. And is close enough to the airport.
2). Book said hotel then.
The good thing is. GRU is only about 1 hour from the good parts of SP.
If you're really interested in getting some play, you can cancel your current booking and get a hotel in Moema or Jardins.[/QUOTE]So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841005]I will be in SP next week for two days and looking for some help to maximize my time. Since I'm flying in / out of GRU I will be staying at Holiday Inn Parque Anhembi close to the airport. Does anyone know if I can bring girls to my room there? I like the strip club scene but I also want overnight company. Where must I go and what are the best agencies to line up some company ahead of time.[/QUOTE]You don't say your price range. But as the other poster says no point booking close to the airport because options are slim. If you have coin then book closer to Scandallo. Go there in person. Select from the buffet and make an overnight takeout offer. A lot guys do this. Much better in person to gauge chemistry.
Just a brief rundown of experiences.
Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.
I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.
I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.
In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.
There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.
Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.
In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.
I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).
Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.
In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.
I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.
Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.
It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.
I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.
One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.
My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.
With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.
Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.
She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.
At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2841091]Spelled Abbobora. Just google maps it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2841283]Just a brief rundown of experiences.
Went to casarao on a Saturday night. Arrived a little past 12. Much bigger than I expected. There's a basement floor I didn't even know existed until about an hour after I was there. General talent is lower then clinicas. Too many guys. It's a 50 cover. I ended up with a girl from Rio with nice tan lines. She quoted me 300 for 30 minutes or 500 for an hour. I took the 30 minute option. Almost every time I've taken an hour I've regretted it. I just don't take that long. You have to leave the club and settle your bill in order to session. The rooms are in the building next door. Rooms cost 50 for 30 minutes and 100 for an hour. This is in addition to what the girl costs. At 2 am on a Saturday night the rooms were a bit busy. Had to wait 20 minutes for our turn. I did notice that the girls waiting for rooms were much more attractive than the girls in the club. So maybe the girls in the club are low quality because all the good ones are fucking.
I've been back to 134 several times already. On a Friday at 4 pm it was packed. Every time I've been I've seen someone I would do. The next time I went I sessioned 3 times with 3 different girls. Got all their numbers. Not sure if I'm going to use them but at least I got them. I got hassled at the front desk of building 134 for carrying aa plastic grocery bag. They wanted me to check it in at the front desk. It costs 5 to check it in. I just don't like leaving my shit with other people. So I took all the crap out of my bag and put them in my pockets. So keep that in mind if you intend on showing up with a backpack. Bag check is not optional as I thought.
I made a trip to building 69. The area really isn't as bad as people say it is. If you've been to santa fe Bogota. You'll be fine. Keep your wits about you. I thought the girls would be butt ugly. But they weren't that bad. I'd say a bit of a drop in quality from 134. They tend to be older and fatter but I think they're also cheaper. I've heard it's 30 to session there. I didn't ask. Since no one really caught my attention.
In the same general area I went to 11 Santa elfinia. Might have gotten the spelling wrong. It's the next street over from building 69. It was really interesting. It's 5 floors of rooms. I think I went too early because most of the doors were closed. I will have to go back at a different time. I think I saw only 5 girls there. None of which I would do.
There's a park nearby that for sure has some street walkers.
Since I was in the area I checked out american bar near the park. So the 3 rdfloor. Loud music. No customers at 4 pm in the afternoon. Only one girl. She looked alright. But I didn't get close enough to judge her really well. Left immediately.[/QUOTE]Whats 134? Location?
BRL $330, be sure to confirm with the garota if you want to have two pops because some of them will try to up charge for it.
[QUOTE=Rahsta;2841367]Thanks, looks like I've been there before. But I will still check it out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841237]... What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.[/QUOTE]I may be wrong with the location. You are not that close to GRU. It is more like midway between the GRU and Sao Paulo. If you just want to go to Scandallo, I think your hotel location is fine for two days. It is actually closer to some other boates less mentioned here. You can use google map to compare the travel time of this location and any other potential locations. You probably will find that they are equal distance.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841237]So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? ....[/QUOTE]
Most mentioned hotel is Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel
[QUOTE=Jan156;2840596]Does anyone know if there's an updated version of this please? Or if it is up to date and to what extent?
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU[/URL][/QUOTE]This Google map is very useful. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rahsta;2841368]Whats 134? Location?[/QUOTE]Building 134 is Alameda Barão de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.
Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.
Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.
The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.
The american bar I mentioned is Av. São João, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841237]So do you have recommendations for a nice hotel in Jardins? Does anyone have any constructive help or just to tell me I did it wrong? What about agencies? I don't want to wander the streets so I'the prefer to make arrangements ahead of time as well as visit a few clubs.[/QUOTE]I am usually in SP for 4 days so I kinda understand what you want. This is what I would do:
1) Book the Renaissance (very girl friendly) or something similar around Jardim Paulista for two guests. The area is super safe with lots of good restaurants and grocery stores within walking distance.
2) I am not a clinica person, but you can RTFF to get names of some of the better clinicas and hit them up in the afternoon.
3) For the evenings plan one night at Scandello. Again, RTFF and you will get an idea of pricing. If the pricing is out of your budget, you can try the other ones like Bomboa or Casarao (close to the Renaissance).
I wouldn't waste my time with escort agencies. You can get a presentation of the girls at the clinicas and Scandello and other boates are like a buffet of women.
Have fun and make sure you write a report.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2841418]Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia.
Building 69 is Rua dos Andradas 69.
Building 11 is Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11.
The first 2 are on the map. The last one is not.
The american bar I mentioned is Av. So Joo, 345. On the map its called Prive American Bar.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841330]In my opinion for first-time travelers: first review the list of clinicas on gp-guia, the price list is posted there, and the clinicas wassap numbers are available to see names, faces, and daily lineup, then do the visit for presentation. Much easier to keep track of 15-20 sexy garotas giving you a welcome brasil kiss when you have their names and photos. On your next clinica visit schedule an early booking of your favorite garotas in advance to not miss out.
I completed visits to Clinica Prime, Abbobora, Tangar, Enjoy, Miruna, and 57 Friends. It's a blast to walk around Moema to see the presentation. Other times it's very disappointing if nothing clicks in an entire lineup of ten garotas. The photos in the lineup can differ from the in-person experience. At Tangar I liked the online photos of Lily Cooper, but during the presentation, I didn't know it was the same Garota. She looked plain, with shorter hair, and different. She has great reviews but not my type. My type is a young Alicia Keys, a sultry Meghan Markle, or a curvy, younger Fiorella Gelli Mattheis all with the Brazilian illusion of passion (IoP).
Prime, Tangar, and Miruna list new chicas added to the team lineup. Very recently at Miruna started 19-year-old blond natural curves, Lua, all natural everywhere, she seemed new to Miruna, and they had to show her where the rooms were upstairs. During the presentation, I felt like a kid with the cracker jack prize when I spotted her. Chose her right away Lua is a young, hot curvy 19-year-old blonde. Damn, luv Brasil. Got her wassap to arrange directly to hotel session for the next day for less.
In my opinion, scheduling duplos in advance, four hands threesome for one or two hours is a good bargain. Quite a few times at Prime and Miruna I got the special pricing deals for threesomes, four hands.
I do 90-minute or two-hour sessions because never know if the same garotas will show up tomorrow or next week.
Yes, early afternoon sessions prefer clinicas. Tangar has a very deep lineup. The wassap list of fotos and names is at least 20 garotas. I reserve two chicas in advance with the rooms on the first floor. I'the rather wait for those rooms than the long walk upstairs or down in the basement near the kitchen. Tangara has a bar in the basement. A good place to sit, and drink whiskey while waiting for room to be available. After a while, I order drinks delivered to the room. On Sunday afternoons they have a bbq cookout, food, and drinks.
It's crowded in Tangara, which reminds me of Casaro. Always seems packed with local guys waiting around.
I figured it's best to schedule two Tangar garotas in advance, reserve gets the rooms on the first floor rooms 1-4 are most convenient. Tangar desk staff are very responsive on wassap.
One time I had such a great drunken time, we went at it for hours. Just plain, exhausted wiped out, so I left Tangar completely forgetting to pay at the desk. You can leave using the buzzer on the door. I buzzed myself out, jump into the waiting Uber, head to the hotel to recover and get some stage 3 REM sleep. An hour or two later they wassap letting me know I forgot to pay. Oh crap their right, haha I was too exhausted and drunk to pay at the desk. Three back-to-back two-hour no holes barred brasilian threesomes with good music and whiskey wore me out. I text them back saying I will stop by later in the evening on the way to Scandalo to settle up. All was cool, no hassle or issues at all.
My favorite porno garota at Tangar is Ariella. I always let her choose the other pretty, sexy garotas for our threesome. Damn. Good. Time.
With Ariella and Larinha threesomes. I pull up Ariellaa porn videos on pornhub, she smiles while the three of us are doing everything in the videos. Damn exhausted, nothing was left out.
Abbobora has deep an "equipe" team of beautiful garotas. The front desk customer service gal sucks. She gets irritated if you don't remember all the names, she doesn't give another presentation to help you out. Don't think the lineup is on wassap either. She's a pain in the rear about the 15 garotas you just met. Abbobora easily can have 15 -20 garotas during the presentation, gpguia is a great guide to figure out which of them are good performers. So I reviewed a bunch of names first and sessioned with highly reviewed Larissa. Tanned, cute perky energetic.
She was there only once a week, on weekends. We went to Hotel Shiga next door. Pay by credito, their machine is wonky. The suites are small rooms with AC showers and never enough towels.
At Prime Blonde Karen is the old-time favorite. She works well with threesomes porno style too. Also went with Camilia in Prime, and she chooses Nadia as a partner for the threesome. Damn, they are a combo, erotic and intense, I see why Prime features them as a duplo couple. Outstanding service, at special pricing, was the perfect session.[/QUOTE]The four hands deal at the moema clinicas including prime, miruna and enjoy is one of best 2 girls pricing anywhere. When I first heard of it, I couldn't believe it and thought there must be some catch. But it's real. I also found out it's much better to know one of girls really well and she can take the lead.
What's the Tangara pricing for 2 girls? I haven't try it there because trying to catch one girl I like was hard enough at that zoo. Probably need to what you suggest and just book ahead of time on WhatsApp.
Hahaha. I knew lily cooper before she was at tangara. She used to advertise on PA, and recently on mclass. She looks pretty nice when she puts the effort with elegant lingerie and cocktail dresses and make up. Plus I have a big thing for natural redheads with big natural breasts. She is well educated and this supports her schooling. I was surprised when she switch over to the clinicas, but makes a lot more now on heavy volume than her usual one or two client per night before.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2841418]Building 134 is Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia. .[/QUOTE]I may have to try out 134 after the several good reports there. What is the standard service for 50 r per 30 minutes. Any GFE with BBBJ and DFK? I don't think I can deal with CBJ, maybe a upcharge?. Also is there a shower to clean up afterwards? 3 quick sessions here is the same as 1 hh session in most of the clinicas. Thanks.
Some intel about the Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt Chain hotels in SP.
As others have mentioned, Jardins is a preferred area if you like walking or a quicker Uber ride to destinations such as restaurants, bars, Ave. Paulista, malls, and even some incalls from online girls advertising on the popular sites like Private55, SPlove, and Clubmodel. I really don't venture out to clubs like Scandallo anymore, or at least I haven't in my last few trips, but you can access it with an Uber ride, just like Casarao and many others. Clinicas are an easy Uber ride from Jardins too.
In Jardins, for the Hilton chain, there's a new hotel called Qoya, it's off Alameda Santos and near Ave. Paulista. My observation is that the lobby is accessible after taking an elevator up one floor. It's new and modern, and good price. The elevator to the rooms does require a card, but you can easily wait for your "friend" at the lobby, no need to check her in, if you don't want to.
In the same area, there is the famous Renaissance Hotel also off Alameda Santos. I was there a few weeks back, the lobby area was being remodeled, a temporary bar was setup and the sushi bar area appeared gone. According to the hotel staff, it was reopening soon, I'm not sure if the renovations are completed. The hotel has been quite busy every time I've been there the last few stays. My observation is that if you get a Suite, the room is great, and the location is preferred. However, if you get a regular room, the price for what you get is not worth it, unless you only value the location. This is comparing it to the other options in the Morumbi / Brooklyn area. Regular rooms are too small, and the bathrooms are starting to show their age. Even the shower in the Suites is small, you cannot shower with someone else in the tiny space.
In the Morumbi / Brooklyn area, there are more choices. This area doesn't have the same ease to walk to places as Jardin does. However, it has more hotels in the financial district, and the Hilton and Sheraton hotels are connected by an underground mall where you can find restaurants (Including a good one called Barbacoa, if you like steak), there is a very safe Bradesco bank with ATMs, a convenience store open until late, and a Drogaria Sao Paulo as well. Plus, a food court with other cheap food options.
As far as the Hilton in Morumbi, the lobby is in front of you as you enter, and the elevators are behind the lobby. I have never been stopped when walking in with company and have had visitors come up to my room without any charge, they just called my room to let them go up the elevator, since it requires card. Asking your "friends" to wear something discreet helps too. This hotel has spacious, updated and comfortable rooms with nice views of the Ponte Estaiada Octavio bridge, nice big showers that can fit two people, and the Suites are even better. The breakfast buffet is great too. The bar is up a couple of floors, with live music on some nights and working girls can be found there. The compromise is that you have a longer Uber ride to Scandallo, if you are planning on going. Clinicas, and other clubs like Cafe Photo are not that much farther than Jardins, if any. I've gotten used to using Uber everywhere, just use Uber Black to avoid cancellations and get quick pickups.
For the Sheraton in the same area, the lobby is to your right when you walk in and if you continue walking past it, you reach the elevators. They require a card to go up as well, but no one will stop you here either. This hotel has a bar in front of the lobby, and they have live music on some nights. The lobby area attracts many guests for drinks, and as you might guess, this also attracts working girls. LOL. I was there recently, and two of them were seated at a large couch, also another pair sitting at the bar, and another two behind a couple of pillars. They were quite attractive. I saw a guy take one back to his room, she was a very tall blonde with curves everywhere, I actually felt jealous LOL. Unfortunately, the rooms in this hotel are outdated, and the Suites need updating too. I would only stay here if you had no other choice, or you are getting a great deal. Stay at the Hilton and walk to the bar here to pick up a girl instead, if you desire LOL.
Another hotel in this area is the Grand Hyatt, although it is not connected by the underground mall. The hotel was very nice when I was there earlier this year, the lobby is up front as you enter, and the elevators are to your right a few steps after you walk in. They require a card to go up, but again no issue taking friends up. The rooms are just as nice as the Hilton, with great showers and great storage to put your stuff away. Great views of the bridge as well. There is a small bar area and restaurant, and I've seen a couple of girls hang out there on some nights as well.
If your preferred plan of attack is Online girls, Clinicas, Seeking or Meupatrocinio for meeting girls for dates and then back to the hotel, either area works fine. The ride to Scandallo takes an additional 15 to 20 min from Morumbi compared to Jardins, this depends on the time of the day, as traffic is always busy in SP.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2841430]I may have to try out 134 after the several good reports there. What is the standard service for 50 r per 30 minutes. Any GFE with BBBJ and DFK? I don't think I can deal with CBJ, maybe a upcharge?. Also is there a shower to clean up afterwards? 3 quick sessions here is the same as 1 hh session in most of the clinicas. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is Bogota, Santa Fe style. It's 50 for 15 minutes. Covered BJ. No kissing. You could possibly negotiate the extras. I never did, since you don't have you whole lot of time to enjoy it. No Showers. One girl I did didn't even wipe her pussy afterwards with those quick wipes. I went to session with another girl just so I could get some wipes at the end. I did the 3 sessions just to try some of the different girls out. I didn't actually finish until the 3rd session.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2841429]The four hands deal at the moema clinicas including prime, miruna and enjoy is one of best 2 girls pricing anywhere. When I first heard of it, I couldn't believe it and thought there must be some catch. But it's real. I also found out it's much better to know one of girls really well and she can take the lead.
What's the Tangara pricing for 2 girls? I haven't try it there because trying to catch one girl I like was hard enough at that zoo. Probably need to what you suggest and just book ahead of time on WhatsApp.
Hahaha. I knew lily cooper before she was at tangara. She used to advertise on PA, and recently on mclass. She looks pretty nice when she puts the effort with elegant lingerie and cocktail dresses and make up. Plus I have a big thing for natural redheads with big natural breasts. She is well educated and this supports her schooling. I was surprised when she switch over to the clinicas, but makes a lot more now on heavy volume than her usual one or two client per night before.[/QUOTE]Tangara Lilly Cooper is a gem. She has good reviews on gp-guia. Lilly and the exotic Japa are always busy with clients. Best to schedule time. Too many guys ready to pounce on her if she is available.
Yup, it's cool to know the chicas before they work at a clinica. I enjoyed Duplo sessions with brasilian porno star Ariella Ferraz before she worked at Tangar. She has hot videos.
Yeah, the garotas make fast money with the volume of clients at Tangar. They get paid out at the end of their day. Better fast money now than slow money on PA.
At Prime Dorcas is the best receptionist. She is friendly, attentive, keeps a bottle of my favorite whiskey on hand, plus coffee, water, and soda. She treats me right as a customer. Plenty of hugs welcome back, and nice wassap messages about new Garotas' first day at Miruna. Ok, Larissa is good reception too. In case she reads the forum don't want to lose my discount or free whiskey. Haha.
Prime has a cool old lady Patricia we have the same taste in music. On different days she gives me the duplo special price, other times the forista discount. Sometimes nothing no discounts. Who knows. . (shrug).
Tangara two out of three receptionists are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
Abbobora's reception is lousy franken attitude, and lousy on wassap. Many bad reviews of reception on gpguia. If I could bypass her and go direct to the room in Hotel Shiga and do a garota presentation in the room, I would go there more often.
At Enjoy Spa the English-speaking receptionist worked at 57 Friends for a long time. We talk a lot. She gives me the Forista discount but lately Enjoys lineup is only 2 or 3 chicas show up on slow days.
BTW the cleaning crew at Prime Miruna, Abbobora is thorough.
The cleaning crew at Tangara sucks. The guy half ass cleans rooms between sessions. He cleans rooms 1-4 well cause they can watch him.
The question about pricing for duplos, four hands. I have paid different prices depending on the day. , cash vs credito, and the mood of the receptionist.
Prime, Miruna, and Tangar offer special days for duplos sessions, and other days no discount on normal fourhands pricing. Sometimes the receptionist gives me the forista or gp-guia discount. I pay in cash dinero, not credito which is a different price.
Ok, then I went to Rio, Centro. That messed up my Duplo pricing. The price range gap was wider. There was a massage place in the rio blanco 156 building, near the top floor. She gave me the Forista deal on top of the Duplo special. It was $180 reais for two garotas, paid in cash. No receptionist, no sign, no waiting area, nothing just three garotas, by themselves working in an office building with a small kitchen and tiny shower. They converted the office to a small three-bedroom sex den. High-end prices Whiskeria 4 x4 duplo was very pricey plus the crappy cold rooms for 90 min. Eventually bolted over to Whiskeria 65 for duplos.
I never do massage in spas or termas, FKK, or any masaje places. Always directo, straight to the deed, down on her knees slurping away.
Think I must have paid anywhere from $180 in Rio to $370 reais cash, more if pay by credit card for duplos sessions depending on the day, special, and the receptionist. It wasn't always double the price of a one-hour garota session. $270 x 2.
As always, your experience may be different, your pricing different, tastes in garotas are different, different days. So YMMV.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841599]
Yup, it's cool to know the chicas before they work at a clinica. I enjoyed Duplo sessions with brasilian porno star Ariella Ferraz before she worked at Tangar. She has hot videos.
[/QUOTE]I did not know Ariella was a porn star; just googled and found she is the lady I have sessioned with her multiple times at Prime. A rock solid performer.
[QUOTE=EverythingBlue;2841471]Some intel about the Hilton, Marriott and Hyatt Chain hotels in SP.
As others have mentioned, Jardins is a preferred area if you like walking or a quicker Uber ride to destinations such as restaurants, bars, Ave. Paulista, malls, and even some incalls from online girls advertising on the popular sites like Private55, SPlove, and Clubmodel. I really don't venture out to clubs like Scandallo anymore, or at least I haven't in my last few trips, but you can access it with an Uber ride, just like Casarao and many others. Clinicas are an easy Uber ride from Jardins too.
In Jardins, for the Hilton chain, there's a new hotel called Qoya, it's off Alameda Santos and near Ave. Paulista. My observation is that the lobby is accessible after taking an elevator up one floor. It's new and modern, and good price. The elevator to the rooms does require a card, but you can easily wait for your "friend" at the lobby, no need to check her in, if you don't want to.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed update on girl-friendly hotels. I have stayed at all the ones you mention. Rooms at Qoya are a bit small but nice. There's also a well situated Canopy Hilton nearby with nicer rooms. Hilton Morumbi has the best rooms of the pack and view from their lounge is nice, while Renaissance has the best customer service but their rooms are dated. There's also a JW Marriott south of the Hyatt which is my best hotel at the moment, especially if you get a deal. The thing I hated at Hilton the last 2 times I was there last year is that they tried to charge me a USD 50 girl fee to bring someone up. I had to complain every time for them to remove the charge. I haven't been back since.
I have always been curious about the price range of the hookers who hang out at the high end hotel lobbies and bars. Anyone with experience?
I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841895]I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.[/QUOTE]Have never stayed at the IC but I am sure you will be fine and remember to book for two people in your room. If they ask for the name of the guest, just tell the front desk she will come by later and register herself. Uber, google maps and google translate will be your best friends while in SP.
Consumables means whatever you consume in the bar and / or restaurant. It can be drinks and food for yourself or the girls.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2841955]Have never stayed at the IC but I am sure you will be fine and remember to book for two people in your room. If they ask for the name of the guest, just tell the front desk she will come by later and register herself. Uber, google maps and google translate will be your best friends while in SP.
Consumables means whatever you consume in the bar and / or restaurant. It can be drinks and food for yourself or the girls.[/QUOTE]So at Scandallos you pay entry fee upon arrival and they keep a tab somehow of consumables. How does that part work.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841895]Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.[/QUOTE]In the context of club entrada, Scandallo charges 500 to enter, 300 of the 500 can be used to buy drink and food.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841599] It wasn't always double the price of a one-hour garota session. $270 x 2..[/QUOTE]Some like Prime charges only one room fee so it is not double.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2841977]Some like Prime charges only one room fee so it is not double.[/QUOTE]Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841895]I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.[/QUOTE]I have stayed at the Intercontinental SP many times. I like the joint. It is a high quality, girl friendly, hotel in a great location.
One thing I do to remember is repeat their name back to the one's I like. Sometimes I have to go slow and sound it out but it can help their name stick in the big head. Kkkk.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841989]Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.[/QUOTE]
The easiest way for my learning style is to not even pay attention to the name girls that don't interest me right of the bat. I remember the names of girls that I find attractive and make a mental note of my short list. If a girl I like more appears I add her to the short list. It's made it so much easier. I realized what I was doing was trying to remember all the names and faces.
[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2842005]One thing I do to remember is repeat their name back to the one's I like. Sometimes I have to go slow and sound it out but it can help their name stick in the big head. Kkkk.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841989]Nounce, thanks helpful to know because the duplo pricing is a great value.
One more why do the garotas say 'brasil' or 'Brasilia, before stating their names during presentation. I have a gpgua or wassap list of names to check. That part of the intro throws me off trying to remember her name. I just need to remember the name. The pretty face, sexy body, perfume is a good distraction. My big head short circuits as the little head takes over during presentations. Two seconds later, soon as the next hottie shows up. Damn forgot her name already. Haha. Only remeber the first words she whispers in sexy tones, gently kissing on my cheeks Brasilia.
Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.[/QUOTE]They are saying "Prazer" which means "it's a pleasure" which is short for "it's a pleasure to meet you. ".
[QUOTE=Dustin3541;2841895]I have a ton of IHG points and want to use them on an upcoming trip. Does anyone have intel on Intercontinental, Alameda Santos, Jardin Paulista. I want to be inva nice place, close enough to places like Scandallos, Bamboa, etc and be able to bring girls to my place for the night. Also I have read back 50 pages of reports but still do not understand what everyone means by consumables.[/QUOTE]Like Axel Said, the intercon is a solid choice for a hotel. Good location and nice hotel. I have had them charge me some small amount to have a girl come to the room. I don't recall the price, but it was negligible.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2842039]They are saying "Prazer" which means "it's a pleasure" which is short for "it's a pleasure to meet you. ".[/QUOTE]I have heard both. They are clearly different. Next time I am going stop the girl and ask what she says.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2841989]Especially at places with deep lineups of Barbie blonde brancas, Abbobara. Hard to remember to write down all the names. Could not find wassap photos or on website either.[/QUOTE]For my taste, I don't feel Abbobara is that much better than others. I don't see many blondes either. I usually just told them I want the girl wearing red dress or the tall negra with tattoos.
Good news is that they seem to have a new reception that is much nicer. LOL.
Well, I am glad to hear I am not the only mother fucker with memory issues that pop up during a typical clinica lineup. KKK. There is only one solution that works for me. Pen & paper: I always write down the names of potential girls of interest as soon as they turn to walk away before the next one walks through the door causing me to forget the names of the previous girls that were of some interest.
In this one respect, Thai oily massage parlors are better than SP clinicas. In the oilies, all the available girls are gathered together and stand in front of the customer or customers at the same time. No need for intros and names. Just point and shoot.
But don't get me wrong. I am big fan of SP Clinicas and I have met a lot of real nice girls in these bordellos. IMHO the clinicas offer the best bang for the buck in town.
What rates are people getting from the exchanges? Dollar to Real?
I wonder whether two paraguayan sisters who look like twins are still working at Scandallo. They are both brunettes, white skin, around 25 why / o, silicon boobs and ass but dressed very short white dresses with good taste. They look colombian promo models at the first sight but with very white skins and red lips.
I had the chance to have a very fun conversation in spanish in the restaurant last June with both after sessioning with other hottie. Unfortunately I had enough that night already and could not afford them together for R2500 (1250 each their first price). They had argentinian accent and spoke very little porto. They were hot, no doubt. Never had enough time to ask their instas or whatsapps for free, so no picture to illustrate this post.
The second night I only saw one of them while I was waiting my room with a very fun girl. And she was with a tall handsome local guy who looked like a volleyball player and paid her R800 from his credit card. I heard it clear because she was on the next line. I suppose she accepted a lower payment because the guy was a handsome brazilian and it was very late. Around 4:30 am.
Those sisters are on my to do list for sure!
[QUOTE=Thor91;2821031]So this was my first ever time in Sao Paulo and my second trip to Brazil (went to Rio last year for the first time. I wrote up a report for that trip you can search for in the Rio thread if interested). I went in with high expectations and despite getting off to a rocky start, on reflection it definitely lived up to my expectations. In this report I'll focus on the girls / sessions I had, hopefully paint a picture of a small sample of what is available in SP.
I stayed in the Moema area (near the clinicas) for around 2 weeks.
[B]Abbobora[/B] - white, heavily tattoed, big fake ass girl (300 BRL 1 hour).
So I landed on a Friday morning, checked in to my airbnb and headed for a tour of the clinicas with my boy. I'd say Abbobora is one of the nicer clinicas with possibly the best quality and number of girls. I ended up choosing a brunette girl with a big fake ass and tons of tattoos. The session was okay but nothing amazing and her ass was too hard / muscular for me. 6/10.
[B]Scandallo[/B] Tall mulatta (600 BRL 1 hour).
In the evening we headed to Scandallo, making it just in time before 7 pm so we paid 300 BRL instead of 500 BRL to get in. For me Scandallo absolutely lives up to the hype, it's a huge place and there must have been 100+ girls. Even just sitting in the restaurant enjoying some food with friends and taking in the atmosphere is a great experience. I felt spoilt for choice and didn't end up choosing a girl until around 10 pm when I picked a tall mulatta with long, straight black hair, pretty face, big white teeth, big lips, a few tattoos and what looked like a big bunda. We talked for a while and flirted in the patio area and agreed on 600 BRL for an hour. Unfortunately when we went up to get a room the b1 tch tried to play dumb and act like we didn't agree on 600 and tried to demand 800. She even had the balls to say she meant 600 USD which makes zero sense. Anyway after 5 minutes of arguing about it in front of everyone there, she finally gave in when she realised I was just going to walk away unless she did 600 for the hour. So already the session was off to a bad start. When we got to the room I was disappointed when her dress came off and she was skinnier than she looked. Her dress really made her ass look bigger than it actually was.
So we're into the session, her BJ was good and we fucked in a few different positions. She was somewhat making up for the BS earlier and it was going well. Then when we changed positions she started her period and blood went everywhere, completely killed the vibe. I should have just ended the session there and got some of my money back but I wasn't thinking straight so continued after she cleaned up in the shower. I said let's switch to anal now and just to top things off she didn't have any lube with her. I assumed that meant no anal but nope somehow she was fine with me forcing my dick in to her raw ass with no lube. It was way too tight and dry to be enjoyable so after 5 minutes of uncomfortable anal I just told her to suck my balls and finished myself off. To be fair she did apologise about the period and her attitude was good apart from trying to scam more money. Went home feeling pretty disappointed after my first day in SP.
Saw this girl again in Scandallo the next time we went there. She was all friendly and apologised again. Then when I saw her as I was leaving she asked if I would pay for her entrance fee. I guess she was hoping I might be drunk or high and just randomly agree to pay 300 BRL for nothing?
[B]Abbobora[/B] Frizzy haired light skinned mulatta (300 BRL 1 hour).
Next session was at Abbobora again after checking the line ups at all the clinicas. I picked a frizzy haired very light skinned mulatta with a tight body. Her BJ skills were very good. Lots of spit and deepthroating. I brought my own lube this time and we had some enjoyable anal. Busted two nuts in the hour. Overall was a decent session but she was on the smaller side and I prefer big girls. Also the condom slipped off once while she was on top, thankfully I didn't catch anything.
[B]Cassarao[/B] Pretty light skin mulatta (400? BRL 1 hour).
Cassarao is like a trashier scandallo. Much cheaper but also less girls and overall lower quality. I spotted this very pretty light skinned girl and took her to a room after agreeing price and services. This girl was skinnier than my usual type again. I was starting to get the feeling that SP doesn't have thick girls because I hadn't seen any truly thick ones so far. This girl did not know how to suck dick at all. I genuinely thought she was joking when she first started. She was sucking it like a clueless virgin sucking dick for the first time, just licking the tip very slowly and cautiously, so strange. Shortly after we started fucking she started her period so we had to stop and shower. We fucked some more then switched to anal. Only busted once in the hour, just wasn't feeling it.
I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
[B]Online girl[/B] Lidia (300 BRL 1 hour).
I decided I needed to take control and turn things around so started looking online to find the kind of girl I'd been looking for. Came across a girl called Lidia on Photo Accomphanantes. Long black hair, very dark tan, pretty face, big fake tits, big bunda and wide hips. Not sure what race she was exactly, I don't think she was black or mulatta, she looked maybe native? I met her in her hotel room and paid 300 BRL for the hour. It was a great session, she had a huge bunda that I oiled up and fucked her for pretty much the entire hour. Unfortunately she wouldn't do anal but it was still a great session. Finally I had broken my streak of bad sessions. I got her number and was planning to see her again but never got around to it.
[B]Campinas[/B] Mulatta Carioca.
Took a trip with the boys to this place in Campinas, I think it's called Fazendinha? After a 1. 5 hour drive we reached the place. It's a big secure compound with a club and an outdoor pool area where the girls hang out. Pretty cool place and I like the idea of seeing the girls in bikinis rather than dresses so you can scope out their body. Was somewhat disappointing because most of the girls were still wearing sundresses not bikinis. I also tend to prefer the darker skinned girls and there were only two available out of maybe 20-25 girls. One was a stunning, model looking girl. One of the prettiest girls I saw in SP. She had a great body and beautiful face, she almost looked Thai / asian. Unfortunately that girl went with a guy shortly after we arrived, and when she was finally free again my buddy got in there first and scooped her up. She spoke really good English and he said the session was amazing. So I was left with the other black girl who had a slightly ugly face but a very nice ass and she was wearing a red bikini that showed off her curves nicely. So we agreed on the price and headed to the room.
After quickly showering, this is where it went south. The dumb b1 tch tried to make me put a condom on for the BJ. I told her straightaway if she does that I'm just going to end the session immediately. After a couple of minutes of protesting I started getting dressed and she suddenly was fine with no condom so I stayed. Then it just got worse. After a decent BJ I started fucking her in doggy. Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened. I was so pissed I instantly told her the session is over and got dressed to leave. She asked me to still pay her something, I refused and walked out. The staff gave me a refund for the room when I told them what had happened. Went home feeling pretty frustrated but I would still recommend this place. I was just unlucky again with my choice of girl.
[B]Online girl[/B] Isa dark skinned black girl (500 BRL 1 hour).
I found another online girl and this ended up being one of the best sessions of my life. She came over to my airbnb and I was praying the pictures weren't fake. This girl was dark skinned black with straight black hair and her body was insane. Absolutely huge natural tits that weren't saggy at all somehow despite how heavy and big they are. Thick curvy body with a big ass too. She also had a cute face to boot. This is the kind of girl I dream of. Great BJ, great sex in all positions. Amazing anal too and totally clean. I should have seen her again but I messed up and she had left SP to another city. Will 100% try to see her next time I visit.
[B]Connection[/B] club. Jennifer mulatta (600 BRL 2 hours).
Met this cute mulatta in connection. Very cute face, GND type. Frizzy hair, nice boobs, nice ass. We played pool and flirted in connection but I didn't session there. Had her over to my airbnb for a couple of hours the next day in the afternoon. She fucked like a champ, great energy and also enjoyed anal. Even with the a / see blasting we were both dripping with sweat. The type of session where you feel 100% satisfied after, you just want to lay back and relax and not even think about sex for a long time.
[B]Brooklin[/B] club. Suany dark skinned carioca (180 BRL 30 minutes).
Brooklin is a small club / strip club that's worth checking out. Cheap and had maybe 10+ girls when we went there. I ended up sessioning with a dark skinned black girl with long straight black hair, slightly chubby / thick body with a fat ass. Was a good session overall, good BJ and good anal.
[B]Scandallo[/B] Emanuelle, fat ass Kardashian lookalike (600 BRL 1 hour, then 1800 BRL for overnight).
My second visit to Scandallo was thankfully a big success. This girl caught my eye walking past. She had long black hair, big fake lips, pretty face but in a bitchy / bimbo way (think Kylie Jenner). Absolutely huge sloppy ass and when I say sloppy I mean that in a good way. You can tell by the way it moves when she walks how soft and jiggly it is. In the room my jaw hit the floor when she took off her dress. Her ass was unreal. I'm not sure if she had a BBL or not but if she did it was very well done. Her boobs were very small but I don't care when the ass is that good. For me this girl is a 9 or 10 out of 10. The sex was awesome. The sight of her huge oiled ass pushing back in doggy was insane. She also had a perfect tight asshole and took anal like a pro.
Another night my buddy had a suite at a nice hotel that he kindly let me borrow for an evening so I had this girl over for the night. This was one of the craziest nights of my life, fucking a girl like this as much as I want for hours in a big luxury suite, I felt on top of the world. This could only happen in Brazil guys.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I think I found the same Isa Bombom you are talking about. Ill be in Sao Paulo on Thursday. I ask her how uch for an hour, she told me $R700. I will negotiate lower. Thanks.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2842316]Well, I am glad to hear I am not the only mother fucker with memory issues that pop up during a typical clinica lineup. KKK. There is only one solution that works for me. Pen & paper: I always write down the names of potential girls of interest as soon as they turn to walk away before the next one walks through the door causing me to forget the names of the previous girls that were of some interest.
In this one respect, Thai oily massage parlors are better than SP clinicas. In the oilies, all the available girls are gathered together and stand in front of the customer or customers at the same time. No need for intros and names. Just point and shoot.
But don't get me wrong. I am big fan of SP Clinicas and I have met a lot of real nice girls in these bordellos. IMHO the clinicas offer the best bang for the buck in town.[/QUOTE]For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.
I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Cool, I like the idea of clothing a red dress, will give that a try.
I best remember Garotas after getting their wassap or Instagram much easier for next time.
Agree the soapy, oily lineups in BKK or by lineup by country in Jarkata works for me. Think sometimes they have numbers too.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2842356]For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.
I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Cool, I like the idea of clothing a red dress, will give that a try.
I best remember Garotas after getting their wassap or Instagram much easier for next time.
Agree the soapy, oily lineups in BKK or by lineup by country in Jarkata works for me. Think sometimes they have numbers too.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions.[/QUOTE] You are making it too hard! You don't need to remember but one name! It's called bubble sort in computers. Each girl presented you decide whether you like her better than all previous. If you do you remember her name and you keep her name in your head till a hottie replaces her. Then you remember her name and keep it. You only have to remember one name at a time ever. In the end go with the last name in your head. At least that's how I do it.
PS they are most certainly saying Prazer. It is the short form of muito prazer which means nice to meet u. I’ve also had girls say “tutabain” which is really “tudo bem” and translates as “how ya doin”.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2842356]For those SP Clinicas, without wassap photos, I tried writing the names. But after 12 or 15 garotas my list says "Prazer" or "Brasilia" five times haha, or kkk. Too much work while drinking whiskey, just need a name. Shout out to guys that keep mental track.[/QUOTE]I think you are talking about a separate issue. I only save the names and contact numbers of girls I have shagged and liked even though I know I will most likely not get back to most of the girls because there is never enough time to repeat with every good girl I shag and still meet new girls which I crave. But, I feel it is the friendly thing to do after an enjoyable session ie trade whatsup numbers with a friendly, attractive girl.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2842356] I say frak it and go for a Duplo session with two names on the notebook at the front desk.
Appreciate Tangar, Prime, Yankin, Enjoy for posting pics, names, promotions.[/QUOTE]I admire your daring and risk taking, Tochka. KKK. I like 3 ways as much as anyone, but what I have learned thru experience is to take my time and line up a menage a trois slowly for the best results. Historically, my favorite 3 way connections always began with my having established a good repeat relationship with one girl and over time meeting and liking one of her girlfriends. Sooner or later the 2 girls make the 3 way offer and va va voom, away we go. My favorite 3 ways were with #3. Two Bottoms Go Go girls in Manila, #2. Two Crazyhouse girls in BKK, and my #1 all time favorite 3 way was with 2 Scandallo girls, one of which is Valerie, my current favorite girl in all of Brazil. Ha Ha. The 3 ways with my Manila girls and with my BKK girls lasted for a few years until in both situations one of the girls started thinking about marriage and then things unraveled and went downhill until I ended it. KKK.
Among the multiple risks you are assuming by selecting 2 clinica girls randomly off a list aside from the distinct possibility that you might not like the girls looks when you see them, is that one of the girls may not be into the other girl. In which case the sex becomes sequential and separate ie doing the 1st girl, rinsing, and then doing the 2nd. A real 3 way is when all three parties interact and are involved with one another at the same time. I just think that might be hard to get from a random selection of names in a clinica. On the other hand, you must have enjoyed some success with your approach, so rock on.
A. H.
This is a great review! Very helpful!! I myself I'm into mulattos and black girls with big phat asses that are natural. Seems like you have similar taste. I've been to Rio so many times I can't even count but I've never been. To Sao Paolo outside of the airport. I always wondered if this city had the type of talent that I like or was it mainly white Brazilian chicks. Based on your report it seems Sao Paolo may be worth checking out!! Thanks!!
[QUOTE=Thor91;2821031]So this was my first ever time in Sao Paulo and my second trip to Brazil (went to Rio last year for the first time. I wrote up a report for that trip you can search for in the Rio thread if interested). I went in with high expectations and despite getting off to a rocky start, on reflection it definitely lived up to my expectations. In this report I'll focus on the girls / sessions I had, hopefully paint a picture of a small sample of what is available in SP.
I stayed in the Moema area (near the clinicas) for around 2 weeks.
[B]Abbobora[/B] - white, heavily tattoed, big fake ass girl (300 BRL 1 hour).
So I landed on a Friday morning, checked in to my airbnb and headed for a tour of the clinicas with my boy. I'd say Abbobora is one of the nicer clinicas with possibly the best quality and number of girls. I ended up choosing a brunette girl with a big fake ass and tons of tattoos. The session was okay but nothing amazing and her ass was too hard / muscular for me. 6/10.
[B]Scandallo[/B] Tall mulatta (600 BRL 1 hour).
In the evening we headed to Scandallo, making it just in time before 7 pm so we paid 300 BRL instead of 500 BRL to get in. For me Scandallo absolutely lives up to the hype, it's a huge place and there must have been 100+ girls. Even just sitting in the restaurant enjoying some food with friends and taking in the atmosphere is a great experience. I felt spoilt for choice and didn't end up choosing a girl until around 10 pm when I picked a tall mulatta with long, straight black hair, pretty face, big white teeth, big lips, a few tattoos and what looked like a big bunda. We talked for a while and flirted in the patio area and agreed on 600 BRL for an hour. Unfortunately when we went up to get a room the b1 tch tried to play dumb and act like we didn't agree on 600 and tried to demand 800. She even had the balls to say she meant 600 USD which makes zero sense. Anyway after 5 minutes of arguing about it in front of everyone there, she finally gave in when she realised I was just going to walk away unless she did 600 for the hour. So already the session was off to a bad start. When we got to the room I was disappointed when her dress came off and she was skinnier than she looked. Her dress really made her ass look bigger than it actually was.
So we're into the session, her BJ was good and we fucked in a few different positions. She was somewhat making up for the BS earlier and it was going well. Then when we changed positions she started her period and blood went everywhere, completely killed the vibe. I should have just ended the session there and got some of my money back but I wasn't thinking straight so continued after she cleaned up in the shower. I said let's switch to anal now and just to top things off she didn't have any lube with her. I assumed that meant no anal but nope somehow she was fine with me forcing my dick in to her raw ass with no lube. It was way too tight and dry to be enjoyable so after 5 minutes of uncomfortable anal I just told her to suck my balls and finished myself off. To be fair she did apologise about the period and her attitude was good apart from trying to scam more money. Went home feeling pretty disappointed after my first day in SP.
Saw this girl again in Scandallo the next time we went there. She was all friendly and apologised again. Then when I saw her as I was leaving she asked if I would pay for her entrance fee. I guess she was hoping I might be drunk or high and just randomly agree to pay 300 BRL for nothing?
[B]Abbobora[/B] Frizzy haired light skinned mulatta (300 BRL 1 hour).
Next session was at Abbobora again after checking the line ups at all the clinicas. I picked a frizzy haired very light skinned mulatta with a tight body. Her BJ skills were very good. Lots of spit and deepthroating. I brought my own lube this time and we had some enjoyable anal. Busted two nuts in the hour. Overall was a decent session but she was on the smaller side and I prefer big girls. Also the condom slipped off once while she was on top, thankfully I didn't catch anything.
[B]Cassarao[/B] Pretty light skin mulatta (400? BRL 1 hour).
Cassarao is like a trashier scandallo. Much cheaper but also less girls and overall lower quality. I spotted this very pretty light skinned girl and took her to a room after agreeing price and services. This girl was skinnier than my usual type again. I was starting to get the feeling that SP doesn't have thick girls because I hadn't seen any truly thick ones so far. This girl did not know how to suck dick at all. I genuinely thought she was joking when she first started. She was sucking it like a clueless virgin sucking dick for the first time, just licking the tip very slowly and cautiously, so strange. Shortly after we started fucking she started her period so we had to stop and shower. We fucked some more then switched to anal. Only busted once in the hour, just wasn't feeling it.
I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
[B]Online girl[/B] Lidia (300 BRL 1 hour).
I decided I needed to take control and turn things around so started looking online to find the kind of girl I'd been looking for. Came across a girl called Lidia on Photo Accomphanantes. Long black hair, very dark tan, pretty face, big fake tits, big bunda and wide hips. Not sure what race she was exactly, I don't think she was black or mulatta, she looked maybe native? I met her in her hotel room and paid 300 BRL for the hour. It was a great session, she had a huge bunda that I oiled up and fucked her for pretty much the entire hour. Unfortunately she wouldn't do anal but it was still a great session. Finally I had broken my streak of bad sessions. I got her number and was planning to see her again but never got around to it.
[B]Campinas[/B] Mulatta Carioca.
Took a trip with the boys to this place in Campinas, I think it's called Fazendinha? After a 1. 5 hour drive we reached the place. It's a big secure compound with a club and an outdoor pool area where the girls hang out. Pretty cool place and I like the idea of seeing the girls in bikinis rather than dresses so you can scope out their body. Was somewhat disappointing because most of the girls were still wearing sundresses not bikinis. I also tend to prefer the darker skinned girls and there were only two available out of maybe 20-25 girls. One was a stunning, model looking girl. One of the prettiest girls I saw in SP. She had a great body and beautiful face, she almost looked Thai / asian. Unfortunately that girl went with a guy shortly after we arrived, and when she was finally free again my buddy got in there first and scooped her up. She spoke really good English and he said the session was amazing. So I was left with the other black girl who had a slightly ugly face but a very nice ass and she was wearing a red bikini that showed off her curves nicely. So we agreed on the price and headed to the room.
After quickly showering, this is where it went south. The dumb b1 tch tried to make me put a condom on for the BJ. I told her straightaway if she does that I'm just going to end the session immediately. After a couple of minutes of protesting I started getting dressed and she suddenly was fine with no condom so I stayed. Then it just got worse. After a decent BJ I started fucking her in doggy. Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened. I was so pissed I instantly told her the session is over and got dressed to leave. She asked me to still pay her something, I refused and walked out. The staff gave me a refund for the room when I told them what had happened. Went home feeling pretty frustrated but I would still recommend this place. I was just unlucky again with my choice of girl.
[B]Online girl[/B] Isa dark skinned black girl (500 BRL 1 hour).
I found another online girl and this ended up being one of the best sessions of my life. She came over to my airbnb and I was praying the pictures weren't fake. This girl was dark skinned black with straight black hair and her body was insane. Absolutely huge natural tits that weren't saggy at all somehow despite how heavy and big they are. Thick curvy body with a big ass too. She also had a cute face to boot. This is the kind of girl I dream of. Great BJ, great sex in all positions. Amazing anal too and totally clean. I should have seen her again but I messed up and she had left SP to another city. Will 100% try to see her next time I visit.
[B]Connection[/B] club. Jennifer mulatta (600 BRL 2 hours).
Met this cute mulatta in connection. Very cute face, GND type. Frizzy hair, nice boobs, nice ass. We played pool and flirted in connection but I didn't session there. Had her over to my airbnb for a couple of hours the next day in the afternoon. She fucked like a champ, great energy and also enjoyed anal. Even with the a / see blasting we were both dripping with sweat. The type of session where you feel 100% satisfied after, you just want to lay back and relax and not even think about sex for a long time.
[B]Brooklin[/B] club. Suany dark skinned carioca (180 BRL 30 minutes).
Brooklin is a small club / strip club that's worth checking out. Cheap and had maybe 10+ girls when we went there. I ended up sessioning with a dark skinned black girl with long straight black hair, slightly chubby / thick body with a fat ass. Was a good session overall, good BJ and good anal.
[B]Scandallo[/B] Emanuelle, fat ass Kardashian lookalike (600 BRL 1 hour, then 1800 BRL for overnight).
My second visit to Scandallo was thankfully a big success. This girl caught my eye walking past. She had long black hair, big fake lips, pretty face but in a bitchy / bimbo way (think Kylie Jenner). Absolutely huge sloppy ass and when I say sloppy I mean that in a good way. You can tell by the way it moves when she walks how soft and jiggly it is. In the room my jaw hit the floor when she took off her dress. Her ass was unreal. I'm not sure if she had a BBL or not but if she did it was very well done. Her boobs were very small but I don't care when the ass is that good. For me this girl is a 9 or 10 out of 10. The sex was awesome. The sight of her huge oiled ass pushing back in doggy was insane. She also had a perfect tight asshole and took anal like a pro.
Another night my buddy had a suite at a nice hotel that he kindly let me borrow for an evening so I had this girl over for the night. This was one of the craziest nights of my life, fucking a girl like this as much as I want for hours in a big luxury suite, I felt on top of the world. This could only happen in Brazil guys.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.[/QUOTE]
Hello gents, I will be back in Brazil 1 week from today. Last time was 2021. I have a list of clinicas that I want to visit or revisit. Would you kindly rank these places from best to worst? I would also like to know the prices if you happen to remember. Thanks guys.
Prime.
Miruna.
Indy.
Moaci.
Enjoy.
57 friends.
Abbobora.
Tangará.
Yankin.
Brooklin.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2842493]I think you are talking about a separate issue. I only save the names and contact numbers of girls ....[/QUOTE]I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2842832]I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.[/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for the useful tips about names, clinica presentations and duplos.
Tangar list of chica names is thirty two 32 garotas long!
Lets frakin dive in, rock on and keep the head up (no viagra) in those SP clinicas.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2842832]I could be wrong. I read that hs is talking about WhatsApp status update from clinica that shows pictures of the day's line up like the attached. Prime has girls working in pair who are familiar with each other, one example attached. I think that is what he is talking about.
Anyway, this information will be useful for people who don't understand.[/QUOTE]Yeah, we were both talking about different clinicas. I was referring specifically to Abbobora which is my favorite regular SP clinica and to which, to the best of my knowledge, does not offer a website with pics of the day's girls.
I am glad to hear that Tochka is having a great time doing 3 ways in various SP clinicas. But I still believe my much, much slower method, outlined in my previous post, yields better, far more consistent results ie bisexual menage a trois with 2 girls of my choosing and where the girls are doing it for real with me and each other. But to each his own. All that really matters is that Tochka is having a good time.
Still, I remember a famous bordello I used to occasionally frequent pre-covid in Pat called Devils Den. The main selling point at Devils Den was customers HAD to choose 2 girls per session and the girls were trained to be very naughty. Sounds good, right, but the problem was finding 2 girls that I wanted to shag. Most times I went there it was one good looking girl matched with her friend who wasn't so good looking. HA HA, and so I had mixed experiences at the joint. But then I met a DD girl who was a real beauty. Fortunately for me, house rules allowed for takeout of single girls for an additional fee of course. 555. So, this girl became one of my favorite repeat regulars for a couple of years whenever I was in Pat and I stopped doing 3 ways at DD.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2842829]Hello gents, I will be back in Brazil 1 week from today. Last time was 2021. I have a list of clinicas that I want to visit or revisit. Would you kindly rank these places from best to worst? I would also like to know the prices if you happen to remember. Thanks guys....[/QUOTE]Been to most of them, the most expensive one I have been to on your list is Abbobora that is 330 cash now. The previous report says it is 300/ HR that probably is incorrect. The least expensive is Targara. It's 150/30 minutes that is up from 120/30 min. Quantitywise, Tangara has the most gilrs. It has 37 yesterday (Tochka missed 5). The other clinicas have like low 10's. Keep in mind, this is only yesterday. It varies daily. Members have mentioned that the 4 popluar clinicas in Moema are owned by the same owner. You can see the same girls and receptions at different clinicas too.
Many have said Abbobora has the best quality. I am not going to disagree with it. For me, I don't see it that way as I only need 1 or 2. My first clinica is Abbobora but I was disappointed with the service. My most recent visit several days ago, there was only one and a half out of about 8 that I liked. I picked Viviane but she does not kiss and seems reluctant to do BBBJ so I rejected her and picked the next best who was great. I give her name so whoever is interested and have seen her can know my taste that is not far off from most. She can easily be one of the prettiest top 5 girls among all clinicas right now. She has a pretty face, kind of slender but with hourglass like body with big bunda. I met the prettiest girl at Tangara, The hottest at Tagara's sister prive Vani. The best sex is also at Tangara and Vani with the same girl haha. I know I can easily be refuted but like I said I only need one or two.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843043]Been to most of them, the most expensive one I have been to on your list is Abbobora that is 330 cash now. The previous report says it is 300/ HR that probably is incorrect. The least expensive is Targara. It's 150/30 minutes that is up from 120/30 min. Quantitywise, Tangara has the most gilrs. It has 37 yesterday (Tochka missed 5). The other clinicas have like low 10's. Keep in mind, this is only yesterday. It varies daily. Members have mentioned that the 4 popluar clinicas in Moema are owned by the same owner. You can see the same girls and receptions at different clinicas too.
Many have said Abbobora has the best quality. I am not going to disagree with it. For me, I don't see it that way as I only need 1 or 2. My first clinica is Abbobora but I was disappointed with the service. My most recent visit several days ago, there was only one and a half out of about 8 that I liked. I picked Viviane but she does not kiss and seems reluctant to do BBBJ so I rejected her and picked the next best who was great. I give her name so whoever is interested and have seen her can know my taste that is not far off from most. She can easily be one of the prettiest top 5 girls among all clinicas right now. She has a pretty face, kind of slender but with hourglass like body with big bunda. I met the prettiest girl at Tangara, The hottest at Tagara's sister prive Vani. The best sex is also at Tangara and Vani with the same girl haha. I know I can easily be refuted but like I said I only need one or two.[/QUOTE]Thanks Nounce, looks like I will be visiting the two places you mentioned. I looked up Vani, it has been mentioned a few times here. Is it a place worth checking out? And could you tell me a little about Prime, Miruna and Yankin little? I went to EnjoySpa and had a blast. How is EnjoySpa these days?
How can an American legally open a clinica in São Paulo?
What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated!
I don't think distance (within reason) from Scandallo is very important because rush hour will be over when you you make your way there. If you want to do anything during the daytime Moema is a good option because you would be within a short walk of more clinicas than you could manage to visit during a two day trip. As for restaurants of interest, Japanese and steak places are the type that are above average internationally. A practical note you should be aware of is the yellow fever vaccine requirement for people younger than 65 who travel directdly from Brazil to either Colombia or Panama. You need certification to have had one at least 72 hours before your travel time, or you need a doctor's exemption note. Travel safely and enjoy your visit.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2843317]What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2843317]What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
[/QUOTE]The time of arrival is kind of important as far as mapping out great 2 night strategy. If I were arriving early in the day, Scandallo would be my 1st destination unless I just had to hit up a clinica in the afternoon in which case Scandallo would be my 2nd destination od the day. KKK. Thursdays are usually one of the best nights of the week as far as number of girls and the quality at Scandallo. I like to go there around 9:30 pm. But if I were arriving in SP in the late afternoon or evening, I would probably relax after the flight in my hotel room and hit Casarao Thursday night instead. The best time to go to Casarao is a little before midnight.
On Friday afternoon I highly recommend a clinica. RTFF back about 6 months to see many informative clinica reviews by BM's.
On Friday night I suggest you go wherever you want just as long as you spend at least one night of your visit at Scadallo. So for Friday night I would choose either Scandallo, Bomboa, or Casarao. Or possibly I would hit Scandallo or Bomboa early and then head over to Casarao later and make the evening a 2 fer.
As far as SP hotels are concerned: there are a lot of very acceptable, accommodating, girl friendly 4* & 5* hotels available in interesting and safe neighborhoods. But if money is no object or if you are like me and have points and voucher nights, stay at the Renaissance, the Intercontinental, or Tivoli Mofarrej. Coincidentally, these 3 are all on Alameda Santos.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2843317]What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated![/QUOTE]Don't sweat 20 minutes travel. Can't get anywhere in SP in less than 20 minutes. LOL. And Uber is super cheap. That will prob cost you less than 10 bucks. Maybe even 5. You might try Bomboa your other night. I haven't been post pandemic but it seems well reviewed and a high class place tho smaller than Scandallo and more supper club than night club format.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2821031] I was off to a bad start. My first four sessions in SP had all been average and two of the girls had had their period. Thankfully my luck now started to turn around.
Then she had her period everywhere. Yes, this was the 3rd time this happened.
Overall I had an amazing first time in SP despite having several bad sessions. Mostly due to bad luck with girls periods! Next time I visit it will be even better.[/QUOTE]IMHO this is disrespectful. These GDP's must know they are either close to starting or have started their period and should let you know it's a possibility it may start or has started. If they could be upfront then you could just ask for alternate services such as BJ only or Anal, etc. And avoid the mess.
They know better [B]......[/B]They know when their period starts and ends.
We've already produced 2 sexy shots till now with this lovely brunette. Paid all of them. Yes, first met her as an escort and we're kind of friends now. I finally convinced her to masked XXX video we will produce in few weeks.
Look at the Tv so you can check this is Sao Paulo and a true brazilian bunda.
I didn't loose my producer touch, did I? Hehehehe I must admit it. I love asses.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2843074]Thanks Nounce, looks like I will be visiting the two places you mentioned. I looked up Vani, it has been mentioned a few times here. Is it a place worth checking out? And could you tell me a little about Prime, Miruna and Yankin little? I went to EnjoySpa and had a blast. How is EnjoySpa these days?[/QUOTE]I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.
[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2843317]What would you recommend for a quick 2-night stop in SP?
Arriving Thursday evening, leaving Saturday morning. I saw Renaissance Hotel as a suggestion, but it appears to be 20+ minutes from Scandallo. Check-in, shower, Scandallo on night one? Or save it for night two? Stay closer to Scandallo to save on travel time? Any restaurants or other prives that should be at the top of the list? I think trying to stay in one central area is the best plan for a short trip, but open to ideas.
Much appreciated![/QUOTE]Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843487]Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.[/QUOTE]Lately Enjoy Spa has fewer garotas. A few times only two maybe three showed up, the rest were expected later but never showed up.
They can move chicas between certain moema spas, I had a blast riding with four sexy garotas going from Miruna to Enjoy.
Miruna lost power and internet one afternoon. Dorcas got us a taxi, and we all piled in, with a garota on my lap, licking my ear all the way. We met Julie at Enjoy to welcome us and pay the fare.
Agree Julie at reception is friendly and cool. We would shoot the shit about my crazy antics at 57 friends. The bar pool table, and local band setup, took me a visit or two to figure out the first time. Now I ask for a presentation first then go into the bar.
Nounce is spot-on about the Moema neighborhood. Good advice. I stay in Airbnb or hotel suites with soundproof rooms or far enough away from the CGH flight line for a restful sleep.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843484]I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.[/QUOTE]Great info, thanks Nounce. Just one more question, what is florsita discount?
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2843452]We've already produced 2 sexy shots till now with this lovely brunette. Paid all of them. Yes, first met her as an escort and we're kind of friends now. I finally convinced her to masked XXX video we will produce in few weeks.
Look at the Tv so you can check this is Sao Paulo and a true brazilian bunda.
I didn't loose my producer touch, did I? Hehehehe I must admit it. I love asses.[/QUOTE]Do you publish the xxx vids? If so, can you links us to it?
How do you search on maps or google for these CLínica without getting a medical facility? Next few days I'm be staying 2 nights next to "shopping ibirapuera".
Thanks for the help!
I fiind Yankin similar to the nearby Tangara with a few key differences. There are usually fewer punters at Yankin than there are at Tangara. Also, for the same price as Tangara, I find the Yankin lineups slightly better than Tangara. I rate it worth a try before you default to Moema.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843484]I would not go to Vani. The lineup usually is weak. The reason I went is because the girl I met at Tangara works there during weekday.
The reasons I went to Tangara initially is because the large selection and often they have more new girls, open earlier and close later that fits my schedule a little better. The girls in general perform better for me too and I can find more thin girls there. The place has a local vibe that I like. The managers are more friendly. The price may seen like a factor but given that I have florsita discount at most other clinicas. The difference for 1 hour is are $10 for one hour and Tangara is out of the way. If I don't find what I like here, I would Uber to Moema after.
There were not many girls at Enjoy in my recent visit. Julie who also works at 57 house was working there. She is very friendly and she speaks English.
I did not go to Prime. Prime is not my first choice because it is popular and I don't have time during daytime to compete with other mongers or wait around. Sometimes it is like playing chess that you have to position yourself so you are the first one to be greeted by the girl. LOL. Anyway, I usually don't stay nearby so I went mostly during weekend or when I was certain about a girl and schedule it in advance.
Never been to Yankin.
Keep in mind that I don't visit clinicas frequently because it does not fit my hours so my observation can be see as one off. That maybe why I have not seen Abbodora with 20+ girls like some GPG
reviews described or the line up some GPG members talk about. I am here several months a year so I also accumulate enough experience.[/QUOTE]
There aren't many flights between 11 PM and 6 AM. That doesn't help the late night ravers trying to rest after a night of Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843487]Scandallo is far from everywhere so that is a given. I assume you don't come alone. Moema has a few Swinger clubs. Friday should be a good night for the club like Asha. If you want to visit both clinica / prive and swinger club, then somewhere close to Moema will be more "central". It is also not far from Bomboa.
The main advantage with Renaissance probably is you can find fine dinning in walking distance but it depends which restaurant you want to go. Moema has many good restaurants as well. Usually Japanese, Italian or Thai restaurants are all pretty good in Sao Paulo.
Moema is on flight path. This has been mentioned frequently. Just look at google map and extend the runway on the map and you will know where you will get the most noise. I have stood outside near Shopping Ibirapuera and watch the fight coming and going and they more or less match the orientation of the runway.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Alohagd;2843727]How do you search on maps or google for these CLnica without getting a medical facility? Next few days I'm be staying 2 nights next to "shopping ibirapuera".
Thanks for the help![/QUOTE]Just google maps search explicitly for the names here. Tangará. Abbobora. Miruna. Prime CLínica or whatever.
I believe this has been answered before but I can't find the post. Where do I get a SIM with unlimited data in downtown SP (Av. Paulista)? Or am I better taking out an unlimted roaming before arrival?
(Prefarbly Claro if it's still the fastest).
[QUOTE=Jan156;2843887]I believe this has been answered before but I can't find the post. Where do I get a SIM with unlimited data in downtown SP (Av. Paulista)? Or am I better taking out an unlimted roaming before arrival?[/QUOTE]Locate a "loja TIM" near to where you are. I'm not sure they'll give you unlimited data on the prepaid SIM but no harm in asking. The data I got was for one month, at the end of which I needed to recharge. Anyway, the data was way sufficient for my surfing and messaging when I was out of my hotel/AirBnb.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2843567]Great info, thanks Nounce. Just one more question, what is florsita discount?[/QUOTE]The correct spelling is forista. You get a discount on some clinicas like Prime, Miruna, and Enjoy if you post a review on gp-guia. Currently it is 200/ HR. I think it is 270/ HR without discount but I am not 100% sure because the price increase.
Some receptionists now are not friendly with the discount if you don't post on every visit. It's unreasonable in my view. They are just being unreasonable when you consider a monger visiting 365 days a year and have to post 365 reviews. LOL. That is just not good customer service toward a good customer.
[QUOTE=XXL;2843889]Locate a "loja TIM" near to where you are. I'm not sure they'll give you unlimited data on the prepaid SIM but no harm in asking. The data I got was for one month, at the end of which I needed to recharge. Anyway, the data was way sufficient for my surfing and messaging when I was out of my hotel/AirBnb.[/QUOTE]The one in Shopping Patio Higienpolis will sell you unlimited data for about are $210 post paid plan with your passport. You probably will need this if you use 5G constantly. I turned my 5G off as I don't need it that fast. This TIM store is pretty large, like a full service one but I think any other one in a shopping should able to sell you one too.
I had TIM and its 5G is quite impressive. I have not seen anything less than 300Mbps when I was testing it everywhere I went.
Oh yeah, I've got a Telegram Channel with wonderful samples, mostly butt oriented. Anyone interested can drop me a PM.
Argies and brazilians, so the best natural butts in South America, no doubt.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2843569]Do you publish the xxx vids? If so, can you links us to it?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2843953]Oh yeah, I've got a Telegram Channel with wonderful samples, mostly butt oriented. Anyone interested can drop me a PM.
Argies and brazilians, so the best natural butts in South America, no doubt.[/QUOTE]Just sayin.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2843951]The one in Shopping Patio Higienpolis will sell you unlimited data for about are $210 post paid plan with your passport. You probably will need this if you use 5G constantly. I turned my 5G off as I don't need it that fast. This TIM store is pretty large, like a full service one but I think any other one in a shopping should able to sell you one too.
I had TIM and its 5G is quite impressive. I have not seen anything less than 300Mbps when I was testing it everywhere I went.[/QUOTE]Post-paid, does that mean giving TIM you credit card to be charged "as you go" (until you cancel your credit card)?
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2844057]Just sayin.[/QUOTE]Hi DonCarlos1234, yeah sure, I love your sculptures, a pleasure I can compare only with putting my hands on butts like this.
The house never loses a game! Hahahaha.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2843965]Can you share your channel link here? I would DM you if I had a premium account. Don't think that would break the forum rule, as long as there is no email address.[/QUOTE]Ok, let's try it: t. Me / assworship.
Has anyone been to Curitiba, Blumenau and Florianopolis? I've heard good things about these 3 cities, but their threads seem to be inactive. Are there good looking escorts?
Which place in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?
How is jardims in sp? For living in an apartment.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2844115]Hahahaha.[/QUOTE]That's not milk. But you can wish.
Gentlemen,
It's been a pleasure to read the last 50 or so pages of this thread. I laughed, I cried, I got hard, LOL. It's been a while since I've mongered outside the States since the jaws of Covid upended everything. In the past, I've had the pleasure of traveling to DR extensively, to Panama City, Costa Rica, Curacao and to Colombia. However, father time doesn't stop ticking and my usual travel companions are on lock down. As such, I'll be solo and I've decided perhaps a nice last rodeo would be Brazil. Always a distant land in comparison to the quick 3-5 hours flights to the Caribbean or Colombia. However, the allure of the famous Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) has me itching.
As a first timer and rusty monger, I'm going to keep things tight and close to the chest. I'll be visiting more of the known places.
Clinicas:
Miruna (A Must), Prime, Palms, Abbobora (Viviane), Taj Mahal, Ora Spa, Tangara (Best Sex), 57 Friends, Enjoy Spa, Yankin.
Boates:
Scandalo, Casarao, Bahamas, Bomboa.
A major shout out to whoever created this map. It's been immensely useful and would love to buy you some consumables at Scandallo.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?hl=en&ll=-23.568139836519688%2C-46.65167774811431&z=13&mid=1DojPORpBnrYUtX74_Y4YoRK0kEJ1BzbU[/URL]
I plan on being there the first week December and am beginning to formulate a proper game plan. However, I did have a few questions for the more seasoned veterans.
Phone:
I just can't imagine myself giving my US telephone number to any of the girls and as such plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
I assume this is fine?
Lodging:
I would love to stay at some of the 5 star hotels mentioned on this site. However, when priced out over 7 days it's expensive, as the youngsters say, AF. An AirBnB would be much cheaper and honestly more preferable. I plan on staying in the Moema area and renting an AirBnb close to the mall.
Does anyone see a problem with this? Ideally, an AirBnb that is girl friendly with minimal hassle to get girls up would be the best. If anyone has any recommendations, I am open ears.
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
I'm just starting to round out my itinerary and looking forward to the trip.
J.
That's nice DonCharles! Feels cold the liquid plaster, right?
These girls. Once they put a mask, something unleashes inside of them.
As my theater teacher said. Actors tent to assume the personality of the mask.
Hope you like these action screenshots. I know how to produce powerful images.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2844247]That's not milk. But you can wish.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2844116]Ok, let's try it: t. Me / assworship.[/QUOTE]I can't quite figure out how to use this link?
Would love to see your pictures.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2844274]
a nice last rodeo would be Brazil.
Phone:
plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
Lodging:
An AirBnB would be much cheaper and honestly more preferable. I plan on staying in the Moema area and renting an AirBnb close to the mall.
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
[/QUOTE]Last rodeo sounds ominous ha. I think you'll enjoy Brazil for sure.
Phone: eSim data is great, but won't get you a local #. I usually use the eSim for my primary phone data. Burner, I get a local sim for going out at night (I generally carried my main phone during the day, I have a backup for that and it's up to you on risk-IE a few BMs have been heldup). And you can sign up business WA to get the local phone # WA onto your primary phone as well.
Lodging: For your first time, any reason a hotel like the Mercure chain (GF friendly, most hotels are) won't do? Cheaper and less hassle with finding out if guests are ok, etc.
Communication: I'd say from my limited experience, more people speak English in SP than Spanish, Google Translate all the way (I'm learning Porto for my return trip).
F.
I've been to Rio & Medellin, but I've never been to Sao Paulo. As a fellow monger, can someone help me decide if Ill like Sao Paulo more than Rio / Medellin. I do it all. Sometimes I invite a girl to my place through tinder / IG / etc, but mostly I go to the massage spots or pickup / strip club scenes.
-Which if the 3 generally costs more for the mid-top range girls, or its about the same? I felt Rio & Medellin was about the same, but no clue about Sao Paulo.
-I'm more into lighter skinned girls. Are there more or less in Sao Paulo compared to Rio?
-Where to stay? I don't need an expensive luxury hotel, but a mid-high end Airbnb may do, under $1800/ mo.
Open to meeting some of y'all. Get you a couple beers when I visit. Cheers.
Is there a way to buy a Brazil sim card without having CPF? I just need it for 1 week. Low data is fine. Are there little shops that sell SIM cards that don't ask for CPF?
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2844274]Gentlemen,
It's been a pleasure to read the last 50 or so pages of this thread. I laughed, I cried, I got hard, LOL. It's been a while since I've mongered outside the States since the jaws of Covid upended everything. In the past, I've had the pleasure of traveling to DR extensively, to Panama City, Costa Rica, Curacao and to Colombia. However, father time doesn't stop ticking and my usual travel companions are on lock down. As such, I'll be solo and I've decided perhaps a nice last rodeo would be Brazil. Always a distant land in comparison to the quick 3-5 hours flights to the Caribbean or Colombia. However, the allure of the famous Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) has me itching.
Phone:
I just can't imagine myself giving my US telephone number to any of the girls and as such plan on buying a used iPhone SE (2nd Gen) and buying a eSim Data Plan from Airalo. I'll have my main phone on me but for mongering purposes I can use the local Brazilian number.
I assume this is fine?
Communication:
Do Brazilian girls only speak Portuguese? Has anyone noticed if they speak Spanish; particularly Caribbean Spanish? If not, I'll have to go down the Google translate route, which is fine.
I'm just starting to round out my itinerary and looking forward to the trip.
J.[/QUOTE]AIRALO won't give you a Brazilian phone number. Just 4 G data. You will need to have a phone number and an unlocked phone to be able to use AIRALO. Getting a Brazilian SIM card could work but I all depends on how long you are planning to stay and how much patience you have.
Girls speaking Caribbean Spanish would be extremely rare in SP. Google translate will be your best friend and if you can speak Spanish, then understanding Porto is pretty easy. Speaking it takes some practice.
Good luck and have fun and do post some reports.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2844173]Which place in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?[/QUOTE]Most likely you will find them in VNC (Vila Nova), Itaim Bibi, Jardim Europa, Cidade Jardim, Jardins, Higienópolis and some areas of Morumbi. But if you take a trip to Rio Grande do Sul or Santa Catarina, you will see a lot of them.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2844197]How is jardims in sp? For living in an apartment.[/QUOTE]Is quite good and safe. Just bear in mind that Jardins is divide into Jardim Europa (mostly houses), Jardim America (commercial), Jardim Paulista (close to avenida paulista and 9 de Julho with plenty of buildings, restaurants, hotels and commercial stores) and Jardim Paulistano. A safe bet will be Jardim Paulista where everything is available.
[QUOTE=Foolish;2844420]Last rodeo sounds ominous ha. I think you'll enjoy Brazil for sure.
Phone: eSim data is great, but won't get you a local #. I usually use the eSim for my primary phone data. Burner, I get a local sim for going out at night (I generally carried my main phone during the day, I have a backup for that and it's up to you on risk-IE a few BMs have been heldup). And you can sign up business WA to get the local phone # WA onto your primary phone as well.
Lodging: For your first time, any reason a hotel like the Mercure chain (GF friendly, most hotels are) won't do? Cheaper and less hassle with finding out if guests are ok, etc.
Communication: I'd say from my limited experience, more people speak English in SP than Spanish, Google Translate all the way (I'm learning Porto for my return trip)..[/QUOTE]Foolish,
Thank you for your response and advice. Regarding the phone, that's a bummer. In the DR, it's as easy as hopping off the plane, stumbling into a Claro and getting a SIM. In and out in less than 15 minutes. I guess I'll have to do more research on how to get a local number. Am I being wise though? It's worth having a local number right? I guess my mind just goes to the worst case scenarios. I imagine someone unscrupulous having my actual number, sending it to their buddies in the States and paying me a visit in the night. I may just be crazy.
As for lodging, I was thinking of the Mercure SP Alamedas, Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi. Ex The Capital, Tsue The Palace Flats as well. The AirBnB prices just seem too good compared to staying in a hotel. I "walked" the streets via Google Maps to check out the neighborhood and while it seems safe, I figure a private AirBnb with self check-in would be preferable.
Ha, well I guess my Dominican Spanish won't go a long way down in the SP. I'm not Dominican but learned way more than I should have during my trips to Sosua / Santo Domingo.
I did have some follow up questions for anyone who is inclined:
In regards to cash, is it better to bring USD and then exchange or withdraw from an ATM once there? Both propositions seem risky if exchanging or withdrawing too much money at one time. I am leaning towards bringing cash and exchanging as I don't need my bank cards being locked when I'm down there.
Also, in terms of pharmaceuticals, can you just walk into any pharmacy and request? Is there a special name for see-alis down there?
J.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2844278]That's nice DonCharles! Feels cold the liquid plaster, right?
These girls. Once they put a mask, something unleashes inside of them.
As my theater teacher said. Actors tent to assume the personality of the mask.
Hope you like these action screenshots. I know how to produce powerful images.[/QUOTE]My God, HiddenEye.
A beautiful woman on the bed, a mask to serve as a facade, I don't know how you had restraint not to just pounce. Definitely looking forward to seeing what Brazil has to offer.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2844464]AIRALO won't give you a Brazilian phone number. Just 4 G data. You will need to have a phone number and an unlocked phone to be able to use AIRALO. Getting a Brazilian SIM card could work but I all depends on how long you are planning to stay and how much patience you have.
Girls speaking Caribbean Spanish would be extremely rare in SP. Google translate will be your best friend and if you can speak Spanish, then understanding Porto is pretty easy. Speaking it takes some practice.
Good luck and have fun and do post some reports.[/QUOTE]Anaggie,
Thanks for your response.
I guess the hassle to get a local number will be too much? Did you ever have any reservations about using your actual number?
I did recently get an audio learning language package for Portuguese. Otherwise, I'm leading with "Que lo que?" and then switching to Google Translate.
And for sure; the trip is still a while away but I'll be taking extensive notes and posting.
J.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2844503] do more research on how to get a local number.
In regards to cash, is it better to bring USD and then exchange or withdraw from an ATM once there? Both propositions seem risky if exchanging or withdrawing too much money at one time. I am leaning towards bringing cash and exchanging as I don't need my bank cards being locked when I'm down there.
Also, in terms of pharmaceuticals, can you just walk into any pharmacy and request? Is there a special name for see-alis down there?
J.[/QUOTE]If you search for my report Apr20 (or various others), you'll see these answered. It's a lot, but I'the recommend reading the last 50-100 pages to get up to speed. Then ask specifics.
You can get a cpf (took me 2 business days) with the BR govt. I generally agree and have no plans to give people in the mongering world my primary info.
Atms work well, you'll probably lose a bunch on exchange. But crisp USD is a good backup. I am on the side of prepping well. Multiple bank and credit cards, multiple phones / laptops and cash, photocopy of passport, etc. Are but that's me.
Drogarias will have generic Cialis. It's called tadalafil. I only saw 20 MG option. Took one every 1. 5 days.
F.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2844453]Is there a way to buy a Brazil sim card without having CPF? I just need it for 1 week. Low data is fine. Are there little shops that sell SIM cards that don't ask for CPF?[/QUOTE]This has been mentioned many times. There are a few ways to do it and this is how I do it and is probably the most reliable one.
Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
I install the chip in my phone.
Go to a TIM store (Loja TIM) with your passport and your TIM chip.
I ask the store employee to use my phone to connect me to the online English speaking agent to register my phone.
I gave the online agent my current address and passport number. That finishes the registration.
You don't need to go to the TIM store if you have someone that can help you make the call, I also don't know if this is still valid as there were conflicting reports recently on whether you can register with passport.
I think Knowledge posted a link so one can register online. Maybe he will post the link again when he sees this post.
Hi, JSmith. It's not a exclusive thing of Brazil. South America has talent.
I'm a very patient media producer who can book hairstylers, light and sound technicians, cameramen, photographers, transportation, meals, hotels, model releases etc etc.
For example, argentine model on the pics. Yes, everything happened after a few productions but not on tape. She had a great ass, I mean GREAT, but awful small tits back 2019, that made her feel ugly and insecure, a girl's thing. Now she has wonderful fake tits I'd love to shoot again, but now she has a very handsome boyfriend and may marry soon. That makes the production harder to coordinate but not a imposible mission.
Let's wait until they have a fight, I'm sure we will produce again.
Models and escorts are different sports. Mongers bang 14 girls in a week. I bang 2 or 3 models in a whole year.
I have my monger relaxing escapades of course hehehehe.
Note: Argentine peso went from 560 to 780 per dollar in the last two days.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2844505]My God, HiddenEye.
A beautiful woman on the bed, a mask to serve as a facade, I don't know how you had restraint not to just pounce. Definitely looking forward to seeing what Brazil has to offer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2844575]This has been mentioned many times. There are a few ways to do it and this is how I do it and is probably the most reliable one.
Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
...[/QUOTE]TIM is not "how they call a SIM" in Brazil. TIM is a major phone operator. Another one is CLARO.
Incidentally, CLARO are more likely than TIM to demand a CPF before they sell you a SIM.
[QUOTE=Foolish;2844571]If you search for my report Apr20 (or various others), you'll see these answered. It's a lot, but I'the recommend reading the last 50-100 pages to get up to speed. Then ask specifics.
You can get a cpf (took me 2 business days) with the BR govt. I generally agree and have no plans to give people in the mongering world my primary info.
Atms work well, you'll probably lose a bunch on exchange. But crisp USD is a good backup. I am on the side of prepping well. Multiple bank and credit cards, multiple phones / laptops and cash, photocopy of passport, etc. Are but that's me.
Drogarias will have generic Cialis. It's called tadalafil. I only saw 20 MG option. Took one every 1. 5 days.
F.[/QUOTE]Thanks Foolish. I'll go back and find your posts.
J.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2844575]...
Buy a TIM chip (that is how they call SIM card) from a newspaper stand.
....[/QUOTE]In case my post wasn't clear, I dug out what I just bought recently shown in the picture. I buy chip that is already registered by seller so I no longer need to register the chip. That is the reason I don't have recent experience about registration. It took the seller about 30 seconds to put the chip in my phone and that was it. This is a hit and miss method and is more time consuming. I already have roaming so I am not in a hurry or even need to get another data plan.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2844507]Anaggie,
Thanks for your response.
I guess the hassle to get a local number will be too much? Did you ever have any reservations about using your actual number?
I did recently get an audio learning language package for Portuguese. Otherwise, I'm leading with "Que lo que?" and then switching to Google Translate.
And for sure; the trip is still a while away but I'll be taking extensive notes and posting.
J.[/QUOTE]I don't need a local number nor do I wish to go thru the hassle of getting one since I am only in town for 4-5 days. I use my regular number and WhatsApp the girls. Simply put. I have never had any issues but I firmly believe in "do no harm" to the girls. I don't give them a reason to try to fuck me over. I treat them with respect and don't share much other than my number. You can also get a second USA burner number and get a new WhatsApp account under that number.
I always carry cash with me and do not use debit cards. I only use credit cards for high end meals and hotel charges. You can find decent exchange houses around the area or in shopping centers and can exchange as you see fit. I use one in the area I stay in Jardim Paulista and they give a rate very close to the central bank rate for new $100 bills.
[QUOTE=BenTiger07;2844430]I've been to Rio & Medellin, but I've never been to Sao Paulo. As a fellow monger, can someone help me decide if Ill like Sao Paulo more than Rio / Medellin. I do it all. Sometimes I invite a girl to my place through tinder / IG / etc, but mostly I go to the massage spots or pickup / strip club scenes.
-Which if the 3 generally costs more for the mid-top range girls, or its about the same? I felt Rio & Medellin was about the same, but no clue about Sao Paulo.
-I'm more into lighter skinned girls. Are there more or less in Sao Paulo compared to Rio?
-Where to stay? I don't need an expensive luxury hotel, but a mid-high end Airbnb may do, under $1800/ mo.
Open to meeting some of y'all. Get you a couple beers when I visit. Cheers.[/QUOTE]Ben, I have never been to Rio or Medellin but have been going to SP since 2018. I have met and enjoyed light skinned girls in SP. My tastes are more for light skinned but I enjoy variety and exploring different options. I have stayed at the Renaissance, Marriott Executive Apartments and two Hiltons. The airbnb I used last trip wanted me to register visitors. The hotels never gave me any problems. My MO is to go to one of the clinics for a session and if we really click exchange numbers. I did pick up a beautiful one at Caseros who was the most wonderful all nighter. My success with PHotoacompanhantes is about 50/50. I have had several of them that have kept in touch with me for several years.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2844750]I don't need a local number nor do I wish to go thru the hassle of getting one since I am only in town for 4-5 days. I use my regular number and WhatsApp the girls. Simply put. I have never had any issues but I firmly believe in "do no harm" to the girls. I don't give them a reason to try to fuck me over. I treat them with respect and don't share much other than my number. You can also get a second USA burner number and get a new WhatsApp account under that number.
I always carry cash with me and do not use debit cards. I only use credit cards for high end meals and hotel charges. You can find decent exchange houses around the area or in shopping centers and can exchange as you see fit. I use one in the area I stay in Jardim Paulista and they give a rate very close to the central bank rate for new $100 bills.[/QUOTE]T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2844901]T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.[/QUOTE]Update. Latam had 2 different prices, $64 in Portuguese and $164 on their English version with this statement: "You'll complete your booking on a local website, which is subject to that country's regulations, language, currency, and available payment methods. International transaction fees may apply. " So [URL]booking.com[/URL] enters your saved info and takes less time. I reserved an Azul flight including a changeable ticket and window seats both ways. Was $100 total. A lot easier then trying to translate with google. So Rio 4 days for me and 10 in Scandallo. Ha!
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2844901]T Mobile sells international data packs. 7 days - $15,10 days $35,30 days $50. I use it in Colombia. Works well. No hassle. I bet whatever carrier you have has similar. I also have local plans. Just simpler to use my own line.
In a similar vein. I will probably use Latam for flight Sao P. To Rio round trip. . because the Brazil carrier websites are more complicated and finding the gates etc. Could get me lost. I like adventures but with less hassle and least amount of stress getting somewhere.
T-Mobile sending me 3 GPS tracker chips to place inside luggage or tape to my computer of under ware so it doesn't get lost! Maybe I will put one on my head.[/QUOTE]I have the T-Mobile roaming international data on my account but it is pretty slow. I just use AIRALO on my second esim in my phone for the data in Brazil. You shouldn't have any issues at Brazilian airports. Just like all the ones around the world. They have English signs and most of the staff speaks english.
Brazil will surprise you. They are a bit more advanced than a lot of people give them credit for. Some things aren't but it is the same for all countries.
Which clinica in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2805656]
[CENTER]HEALTH[/CENTER]
You should get on PREP before you head out. Takes about 2 weeks to be effective and you will have some peace of mind. Most Health insurance covers it. You can buy good skyn condoms at the pharmacies and you can get sildenafil or Tadalafil (generic Cialis) there as well. Its pretty cheap. Get some mouth wash as well. Scandallo has tons in their mens bathroom but the girls don't so I've had some funny encounters where the girls will ask me to sneak them some out of the mens bathroom because they can't go in. I know some guys like to make out with their girls hardcore but make sure to wash that mouth right away because some girls aren't as hygienic as others. They will clean their pussy and ass but only a few times I've seen a girl brush her teeth or get mouthwash.
If you start to feel sick go to the pharmacy and get some meds for sore throat / coughing right away. Once you get sick you won't have the strength to do anything let alone girls. I had a friend ignore my advice and he was out of action for a good 5 days which could have easily been dealt with. If you feel bad enough go to a clinic and get some stronger meds just in case. Once you're out of commission you might as well be on your outgoing flight because you're gone.
[/QUOTE]Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.
I once got a bad case of diarrhea in New York a couple of days before I went to Sao Paulo. It was super annoying. I stupidly waited a full day before I added Imodium to the liters of water I was drinking. I was back in action after another day. Traveler's diarrhea is supposed to be a developing world thing.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2845120]Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2845115]Which clinica in SP has more chicks of European descent? Like white girl who can pass as German, polish or Italian?[/QUOTE]I don't think any of the clinicas specialize in any type of girl. They all have a variety as tastes among men differ wildly. But generally speaking, there are more white/european looking girls in SP than in Rio for sure.
For those of you who want to look it up its on the map. Also its address is are. Prof. Santiago Dantas, 62.
Went around 3 pm. Didn't know what to expect. Arrived by uber, went up to the second floor. There was a small waiting area and a receptionist greeted me. Told me that the prices: 300 for 30 minutes or 400 for 1 hour. 50 real surcharge if you use a credit card. I sat down while the girls came out. Usually I keep my phone handy and keep notes on which girls I liked. 6 girls presented themselves. I would have done 4 of the 6. I was surprised by the quality. I chose Raiiss, pretty face, with a decent body. In presentation she had a lot of cleavage showing, which I liked. The hostess led me to the room, and I took a shower while waiting for Raiiss to show up. The room itself was clean enough, very similar to clinica prime I would say. Raiss showed up as I finished my shower, we chatted a bit in my broken portoguese / spanish. 21 years old, had been working there for almost 5 weeks. I love a pretty face. She undressed and took a shower. Her boobs were large with some decent form, but were the saggy type, usually I like them firm, even if a bit smaller. We got down to business and man, she was passionate. All the DFK I would handle. Laid her on her stomach and ate her from behind, before getting into 69 position. Did all the positions and finished in doggie. Finished my 30 minute session with 5 minutes to spare! Man, this is what I've been missing all my life. Sweet girl. Would repeat if I get the chance. Got her whatsapp.
Ratings:
Face: 8.
Body: 7. 5.
Attitude: 10.
Performance: 8.
There is always Moldova or Romania.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2845286]I don't think any of the clinicas specialize in any type of girl. They all have a variety as tastes among men differ wildly. But generally speaking, there are more white/european looking girls in SP than in Rio for sure.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for this pretty good summary.
I was wondering if someone could clarify something: in reading previous post it appeared to me as if a doctor prescription was required in order to get Cialis or Viagra. I was wondering if that is still the case.
I have gotten used to not needing one in Colombia, Thailand and the Phils. Although I do not need it frequently it does come in handy when doing major session days.
Thank you all for any help.
Concarne.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2805656]I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.
In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.
[CENTER][b]PREFACE[/b][/CENTER]
There are some words of advice I'd like to bestow upon thee before I ventured any further.
[CENTER]LOCATION[/CENTER]
Moema is a nice area and one would think being 5 mins away walking distance to the major clinicas would be a smart move, it is not. The problem you will find is that the airplanes constantly go over your head day and night and do not cease. I stayed in the moema area to show a new SP visitor around town and it was not worth it in his own words. I'm a heavy sleeper but still it did bug me when I just wanted to read my essential reading materials such as The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (paperback) and Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov.
There is no ideal location to stay at. You will be far from either the boates or the clinicas or something else. There is no "right spot" to stay at. I stayed in moema for the first 10 days then went to the Grand Hyatt in brooklin area. I think a good compromise is Brooklin novo. It's only 10 min ride away to the clinicas and 30 mins from bomboa, scandallo and casarao more or less. It's also a decent area which you have to remember is important because some girls will flat out refuse to come over if you're in a bad neighborhood like Repblica. They'll tell you to come to them or get a love motel and you don't want that if you can help it.
[CENTER]AIRBNB and HOTEL[/CENTER]
I used Airbnb and my host had it written down that I had to check in every guest that I had coming in. It really made it annoying some days. Eventually I just went pass the front desk but this can be a problem if the building sees this as a problem and can kick you out. If a host says you can't have visitor or you have a limit I'd take that into consideration and look for something else. I'd ask them what the method is to get in the building as some places you get a keyfob or they use face scanner to let you in and you just bypass security or times you need to talk to the front desk every time and that's when you have a problem usually.
Also take into consideration of hotels. Some girls will only go to a guys place if it's a hotel. I had some scandallo girls tell me this and online girls. Since this is my 6th rodeo I had some girls who I had a repeat with come to my airbnb but that's because they knew I was 300 like the romans (300 = CCC = cool, calm, collective).
I stayed in the Grand Hyatt at their presidential suite which is their best suite and it was a delight. I was there during lollapalooza festival so it was extra interesting as some of the artists were staying on the same floor and security was extra tight as there was a ton of fan girls waiting to see their favorite artists walk by. I'm sure some were for me as well but I didn't pay them no mind.
Things to take note of is that the maximum registered guests you can have for your stay is 3 people. Anything over that you have to pay R150. The rooms is big enough to have 6-8 people over so really it's up to you if you want to pay that extra cost for an 4 some or more. Before 7 pm they don't really care about you bringing a girl or 2 or 4 over because they know you have friends that will want to come over but after 7 pm they have a security guard at the front who will guide you to the front desk to sign in your guests because they assume anyone coming in after 7 pm might stay the night and they don't want a fiesta happening in your place without getting a piece of that sweet action. Once a girl leaves make sure to sign them out so you have two guests available to come still. The front desk might try to squeeze you like a Heinz EZ Squirt Purple ketchup bottle and say you already used up your 2 guest spots and now you have to pay R150 for any new visitors. That's not how it works. It's any two guests at any given time. As long as you signed out any previous guests you don't have to pay unless you go over the room limit. It's usually a different front desk person so they might be confused so just politely tell them you are within the limit and clear up the confusion.
With the presidential suite you also get free breakfast, usually that means downstairs on the first floor but you can also get it sent to your room complimentary. You have to use the hotel's website to order your breakfast combo and add it to your room charge and schedule it but once you check out it will be noted as complimentary and you don't pay. A buddy of mine who has been there many many time never knew this and always missed breakfast. With the jacuzzi and it's view of the city it's really the best spot in SP. Your girl will go wild.
[CENTER]CASH IS KING[/CENTER]
I recommend getting a charles schwab debit card so you don't have to pay any ATM fees. The grand hyatt notoriously has a high ATM fee, something like 30% of whatever you're taking out. Its crazy. Sometimes you will get a POS ATM situation like this so the CS debit card will save you some brain cells and dollars. I like using the bradesco atms as they work with international debit cards and they have a 2500 BRL withdrawal and some let you pick what type of bills you get. There are some 24 HR ATM machines located in supermarkets and express stores but they only let you take out 1000 BRL.
Always keep cash with you as it can save you alot of money and stress down the road. I mainly use my credit card to get those points but when you pay the girl it's always best to pay by cash as some places will charge you 10%-30% to pay them with card. Some girls have machines but they will also charge you or their machines won't work and now you have to find a ATM at 3 am and that's never fun.
[CENTER]HEALTH[/CENTER]
You should get on PREP before you head out. Takes about 2 weeks to be effective and you will have some peace of mind. Most Health insurance covers it. You can buy good skyn condoms at the pharmacies and you can get sildenafil or Tadalafil (generic Cialis) there as well. Its pretty cheap. Get some mouth wash as well. Scandallo has tons in their mens bathroom but the girls don't so I've had some funny encounters where the girls will ask me to sneak them some out of the mens bathroom because they can't go in. I know some guys like to make out with their girls hardcore but make sure to wash that mouth right away because some girls aren't as hygienic as others. They will clean their pussy and ass but only a few times I've seen a girl brush her teeth or get mouthwash.
If you start to feel sick go to the pharmacy and get some meds for sore throat / coughing right away. Once you get sick you won't have the strength to do anything let alone girls. I had a friend ignore my advice and he was out of action for a good 5 days which could have easily been dealt with. If you feel bad enough go to a clinic and get some stronger meds just in case. Once you're out of commission you might as well be on your outgoing flight because you're gone.
[CENTER]CELLPHONE[/CENTER]
I'm a tmobile customer and tmobile gives its MAX Magenta user 5 gb free international data so as soon as I landed I was up and running. You can also get Google Fi and it does the same thing for $20 or so. You can also use the airport's WIFI and get an uber straight to the nearest mall where you will be staying at and get a sim card from TIM but I helped a friend do that and went with him and it took about two hours before it became active so it's kind of a hassle if you don't need to do this.
[center]BUDDY SYSTEM[/center]
for sao paulo i would recommend you come with a buddy or meet other members there. Sao Paulo is great but doing the boates alone really is a wretched experience especially when you have done it with a group of buddies before. you can really relax and take your time to soak it all in and get some more insights from your buddy as you only have two eyeballs and two heads with one doing most of the decision making. In my experience, every guy has their own tastes and there usually is very little crossover. I, myself, am very fond of pale redhead with blue/green eyes and my buddies were into the exact opposites. they knew my type and could easily point a girl out that i would like faster than i did at times. you can't visit all the places and be there at the same time so they can get you some important info about the kind of talent one place has and so on. sao paulo really in essence is going from one building to another to another with lots of uber rides in between so it's better with company during those times. i would highly recommend you stay in the same building if you're doing Airbnb or the same hotel. it really saves time and when you're in need of help they are only a few floors away and not blocks. I ran out of condoms once and money with two girl over and my friend was able to come up to my floor and drop off a box and some cash.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Concarne;2845403]Thank you for this pretty good summary.
I was wondering if someone could clarify something: in reading previous post it appeared to me as if a doctor prescription was required in order to get Cialis or Viagra. I was wondering if that is still the case.
I have gotten used to not needing one in Colombia, Thailand and the Phils. Although I do not need it frequently it does come in handy when doing major session days.
Thank you all for any help.
Concarne.[/QUOTE]No prescription needed (just like Colombia, Thailand and the Phils) you just need the name of the meds you want (sildenafil / Viagra or Tadalafil / Cialis and or other brands) when speaking to pharmacist.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2845465]No prescription needed (just like Colombia, Thailand and the Phils) you just need the name of the meds you want (sildenafil / Viagra or Tadalafil / Cialis and or other brands) when speaking to pharmacist.[/QUOTE]I already have test results but USA doctors first appointment is not till October. In Bogota I could just go to the pharmacy. Also are we wearing shorts on long pants now? Or both?
Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.
Every time I have to bring two or more girls / people for a production, I reserve two double rooms, so the hotels will let me use the entire facility and everyone is happy.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2845821]Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2846040]Every time I have to bring two or more girls / people for a production, I reserve two double rooms, so the hotels will let me use the entire facility and everyone is happy.[/QUOTE]This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2845638]I already have test results but USA doctors first appointment is not till October. In Bogota I could just go to the pharmacy. Also are we wearing shorts on long pants now? Or both?[/QUOTE]It is my understanding that Brazil is like the USA And testosterone is not available over the counter.
I see people wearing shorts during the day and jeans at night.
I feel the same way about twosomes as you do about threesomes. I much prefer to go with two or three girls one at a time.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2846046]This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.[/QUOTE]
Is the talent at Scandello any different in September than compared to in the February-April which I think is the summer time? What about if it's raining? I've been to Scandello before but only on dry days and during summer so wanted to see if the environment changed based on the season / time of the year.
Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: [URL]https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/[/URL]#promo.
How is Edificio 134? I know the area is not good and quality is prob. Low, but having over 100 women in a building to choose from is something I'd like to see. Can anyone share some experience?
I had a dental emergency once, so I ended in a dental clinica, where at the end of the treatment, the dentist prescribed amoxiciline of 500 MG.
Only with that prescription they sold me the medicine in a Drogasil drugstore, after checking my ID and making a copy of my passport.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2846107]It is my understanding that Brazil is like the USA And testosterone is not available over the counter.
I see people wearing shorts during the day and jeans at night.[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's right, producers can't waste crew and talent time, so we choose options that are 100% sure to work.
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2846107]This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2845120]Considering the risks it's amazing these girls stay "healthy". Same for the "mongers" . No condoms, sharing bareback with 5-10 guys a day?, up the butt, face sucking, tongues everywhere. I have a doc friend who gave me 4 different med types to prevent / cure various std's. he is also a mongor. LOL.[/QUOTE]Some guy I met at 4 x4 told me that girls working at 4 x4, Monte Carlo and Centaurus get regularly tested for stds and hiv. Not sure if it's true.
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2805656]I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.
In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.
[center]BUDDY SYSTEM[/center]
for sao paulo i would recommend you come with a buddy or meet other members there. Sao Paulo is great but doing the boates alone really is a wretched experience especially when you have done it with a group of buddies before. you can really relax and take your time to soak it all in and get some more insights from your buddy as you only have two eyeballs and two heads with one doing most of the decision making. In my experience, every guy has their own tastes and there usually is very little crossover. I, myself, am very fond of pale redhead with blue/green eyes and my buddies were into the exact opposites. they knew my type and could easily point a girl out that i would like faster than i did at times. you can't visit all the places and be there at the same time so they can get you some important info about the kind of talent one place has and so on. sao paulo really in essence is going from one building to another to another with lots of uber rides in between so it's better with company during those times. i would highly recommend you stay in the same building if you're doing Airbnb or the same hotel. it really saves time and when you're in need of help they are only a few floors away and not blocks. I ran out of condoms once and money with two girl over and my friend was able to come up to my floor and drop off a box and some cash.[/QUOTE]Staying at Bourbon. Private residences. Ear plugs just in case. And I will post my trip details on the travel section. Normally I am a lone wolf but admit 2 guys I have met here have ended up becoming very good friends. Or pm me.
[QUOTE=Durandpaul;2846509]Some guy I met at 4 x4 told me that girls working at 4 x4, Monte Carlo and Centaurus get regularly tested for stds and hiv. Not sure if it's true.[/QUOTE]1000% true. Confirmed with multiple sources.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2845821]Has anyone brought 3 girls up to the Marriott executive apartments? I have the two bedroom suite. I brought two last week just asked for ID. Not sure is they will give me hard time time with three.[/QUOTE]Just to give an update had no issue bringing up the three girls. Two arrived by uber and the last arrived with her own car. The last didn't even ask for her ID I think they just thought f* it LOL.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2846167]Is the talent at Scandello any different in September than compared to in the February-April which I think is the summer time? What about if it's raining? I've been to Scandello before but only on dry days and during summer so wanted to see if the environment changed based on the season / time of the year.[/QUOTE]My advice is not worry about the months but instead holidays. December January and February are probably slower months since you have many people take vacation for cristmas new years and carnavale most regulars will likely be busy with their family's in September just need to avoid the week of September 7th brazilian independence day. Any holidays will affect the normal business. As girls know there will be less guys so they themselves may take a break. Don't think rain changes things too much.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2846046]This is great advice for a video production company, but for your average monger it is total BS. I have been punting around the world for decades and no matter what country girl I travel to, guest friendly means as many girls as want with no extra charge. No monger in his right mind would ever book a 2nd room in the same hotel for menage a trois. He would just book a more friendly hotel. Problem solved.
Now for me, 3 girls in my bed at one time is one girl too many and a clear case of diminishing marginal returns from the 3rd girl. In other words, for me, a 4-way is not worth the added cost of the 3rd girl. But still, any real girl friendly hotel will allow 3 girls with no joiner fee and I will not stay in any hotel that is not girl friendly even though, as I said, I have no intention of doing a 4 way in my room.[/QUOTE]This was the first time I have done the foursome and was a pleasant experience. Logistics worked well all night for example double BBBJ while making out with the third or FS from one while getting full attention from the other two. I agree with lower returns compare to a threesome. But I also see it as diversification if one gets an attitude you still have the other two to save the night. I had sessioned with all the girls previously so I knew they were chill I probably would not do with a new girl involved. To sum up not something to do often but in my case was very nice and have absolutely no regrets. Also recommend only to do with trusted contacts.
I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello.
In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.
I don't notice planes after 11 PM until 6 AM. I think there is a curfew. Of course, 6 AM is pretty early for that to start if you've been out all night at Scandallo. I'm more of a daytime prowler.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2846731]In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2846731]...
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.[/QUOTE]24/7? I thought there was no commercial flight between midnight and 6 am.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2846673]I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello.[/QUOTE] Definitely need an ID. Both forms of ID are accepted.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846567]Staying at Bourbon. Private residences. Ear plugs just in case. And I will post my trip details on the travel section. Normally I am a lone wolf but admit 2 guys I have met here have ended up becoming very good friends. Or pm me.[/QUOTE]I prefer staying in brooklin novo.
Out of the path from the planes and the condos in that area are much nicer than in moema.
Your place is right next to the mall but I honestly don't really see the plus in that.
I stayed one block from the mall and only went about 3 times in my 10 day trip.
You should eat at some nice local spots and not the food court.
Atms are located there so there is that.
Just booked my airbnb in brooklin novo with an indoor heated swimming pool, sauna, gym and no annoying doorman. If you people can swing it I like the grand hyatt.
Good AC / HEAT, safe and easy check in.
[QUOTE=Ringudor;2846201]Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: [URL]https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/[/URL]#promo.[/QUOTE]What massage did you get? Looks pretty interesting and cheap!
[QUOTE=Bearsi;2846808]I prefer staying in brooklin novo.
Out of the path from the planes and the condos in that area are much nicer than in moema.
Your place is right next to the mall but I honestly don't really see the plus in that.
I stayed one block from the mall and only went about 3 times in my 10 day trip.
You should eat at some nice local spots and not the food court.
Atms are located there so there is that.
Just booked my airbnb in brooklin novo with an indoor heated swimming pool, sauna, gym and no annoying doorman. If you people can swing it I like the grand hyatt.
Good AC / HEAT, safe and easy check in.[/QUOTE]2 sets of ear plugs, friendly Airbnb owner, likes my art. Says no noise if windows are closed. I will message him one last time to double check. Also staying 2 blocks from Casarao for 3 nights when I first arrive. BTW your posts are very informative, very entertaining Thanks.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2846731]In the Moema area, the clinica nation as they say, planes fly over your head in the final approach to Congonhas track L35 meanwhile your banging.
24/7, very loud sound for those who have not lived near an airport before.
Cloudy afternoon few days ago.[/QUOTE]I just cancelled the flight path Airbnb.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2846658]Just to give an update had no issue bringing up the three girls. Two arrived by uber and the last arrived with her own car. The last didn't even ask for her ID I think they just thought f* it LOL.[/QUOTE]I've done threesomes and they were amazing. I only do that with girls who are bi. Foursomes must be even better.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2846673]I will be in Sao Paulo next week. I will be there for the week. My first of hopefully many visits. I wanted to check if there are any passport / DL requirements for entry to Scandello.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure that you need some form of ID and they may have asked for my CC to have on file, but didn't charge until later. I just use a Passport Card, but I'm sure a US State ID or of course photo of your passport would work.
[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2846660]My advice is not worry about the months but instead holidays. December January and February are probably slower months since you have many people take vacation for cristmas new years and carnavale most regulars will likely be busy with their family's in September just need to avoid the week of September 7th brazilian independence day. Any holidays will affect the normal business. As girls know there will be less guys so they themselves may take a break. Don't think rain changes things too much.[/QUOTE]Anecdotally, when I've been in Rio during the summer months I've met many girls from Sao Paulo and Mineras who say they've worked at Scandallo. Rio has many more working girls during the Brazilian summer than during the winter and I'm guessing that pulls from Scandallo a bit. That noted, the 45 mimute flights are often only $40-$60 between cities and girls will fly back and forth during the week to work and for certain clients. Again, this is what I picked up from talking to girls.
[QUOTE=Ringudor;2846201]Spent few days in sao paulo, most of nights in casarao, in rua augusta, lot of girls (in weekdays few less), they usually ask for 350 reais - 30 min, but you can bargain a bit, entrance is 50, hotel reservation another 50.
I also received a good massage here: [URL]https://massagemessenciallesp.com.br/[/URL]#promo.[/QUOTE]It was good meeting you Ringudoor. Piggy-backing on this, It was 400-500 R (hotter girl) for an hour and 100 R for the room. You will frequently need to wait in line. I understand girls don't really show up until after 12 am.
Yeahh! Sorry, you all right.
Flights arrive 18 hours / 7 days a week. Not 24/7.
My mistake.
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2846761]24/7? I thought there was no commercial flight between midnight and 6 am.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chicago85;2846892]It was good meeting you Ringudoor. Piggy-backing on this, It was 400-500 R (hotter girl) for an hour and 100 R for the room. You will frequently need to wait in line. I understand girls don't really show up until after 12 am.[/QUOTE]In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
Miruna.
Moma Prime.
Palms Abbobora.
Taj Mahal.
Ora Spa.
Clinica Tangara.
57 Friends.
Enjoy.
Spa.
Yankin.
Lotus Lounge.
Sharon Premium.
Are there some key or secret words to use to ask for intimacy / sex when making a "reservation" on WhatsApp or do you find out when you get there? Should I visit all of them? LOL.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846963]In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?.[/QUOTE]BJ and full vaginal sex are standard in SP Clinicas, and sometimes anal (depending on the girl and perhaps an extra fee). I have been to all of the ones you listed (except Taj Mahal, Ora Spa, Lotus Lounge, and Sharon Premium) and they are all full sex. I would expect that the ones I haven't gone to are all also full sex but you could confirm with reception that is the case. To ensure that you get what you want, talk to the girl you are interested to see if she does what you want (DFK, BBBJ, anal, DATY, CIM, etc) and if there is an extra fee for them, and then decide whether to go to the room.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846963]In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex. If you go to a massage spa. Maybe just a happy ending. These places are often in someone's house so it can be confusing. The girls at Casas in Colombia are nowhere near as hot as the photos of girls at Clinicas in Brazil.
In Brazil I'the like to know what is the difference between Clinicas with various hot girls photos on their web pages? We would like to have sex but might settle for happy ending. What is possible?
Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
Miruna.
Moma Prime.
Palms Abbobora..[/QUOTE]I don't know any of the clinicas that keep their website up to date with the girl roster. This is done daily through WhatsApp. I think their websites are really facades to make seems like legit businesses. The moema clinicas, prime, 57, enjoy and Tangara, etc, there is no massage, just sex. In some of the higher end clinicas like lotus, palms, oro, the girls usually start with a massage and I have seen a few of these clinicas offer two options, a regular massage with BJ ending, or sex (complete). They cater to the older and richer clientele in SP. These messages are pretty weak and usually you can ask the girl to skip the massage. The massages are all the same bad and I have not seen a true nuru plus sex option. When I want a good massage, I look a legit massage place which advertises to women and offers manicures / yoga. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846963]Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?
[/QUOTE]The higher end Clinicas (Taj Mahal R400, Sharon R600, Lotus R800, Oro R600, Baronesa R700, all numbers approximate) all offer FS but often they start with a 10 minute massage that escalates. The only one of the high end Clinicas where you might have to explicitly ask is Sharon, because they offer an option for R400 without FS. In the session they might ask if you are familiar with the house, and usually saying you want "todo" / "everything" does the trick. The next tier down of Clinicas will usually skip massage and dive right in, although, amusingly, sometimes the front desk will say "boa massagem" / "have a good massage" when they drop you off in the room.
I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846963]Am I guaranteed a happy ending for their services? Is there often, sometimes or usually a guarantee of sex? Does it depend on the girl doing the massage or the clinic I go to? Does it depend on tipping the girl or how much I pay the clinic? Should I expect up to $100 usd? Does it depend on what they call the massage (nuru, tanatric etc) that I pay for? How do I make a choice?.[/QUOTE]I've seen it suggested somewhere that massage places where they don't or don't usually offer FS are called Therapeuticas instead of Clinicas; unhelpfully I don't recall where I saw that.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2847007]I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.[/QUOTE]Generally, the high end SP Clinicas are about 2 x or 3 x the cost of the next tier down of Clinica (and they are about half the cost of Scandallo). What do you get for that extra expense?
1. Nicer facility / better rooms. Taj, Baronesas, and Sharon are all recently renovated, and have a more upscale environment.
2. About 1 or 2 out of 10 massagistas have more of a natural / no tatoo look vs what you'll generally find in the next tier down of Clinica.
3. Some of them (Sharon, Taj, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM. The next tier down Clinica doesn't get going until around 1 or 2 PM.
If you are a Clinica veteran and you don't want to do repeat sessions, and you like more of a natural look, you can supplement the regular Clinicas with some high quality sessions in these. The photos on the websites of Taj, Sharon, Baronesas, and Lotus are pretty accurate.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2847007]I learned about a few new spots today from the recent posts. I'd like to know these costly clinicas have better quality or not in terms of women. The pics on their website look great for the facility, but are women worth the price?
Palms: I believe it is are $ 750.
Taj Mahal: 450.
Sharon: don't know cost.
Ora Spa: couldn't find.
Can someone provide some insights thanks.[/QUOTE]The girls in the higher end clinicas on average are better looking than the regular clinicas. They are more selective on the girls and tend to be better dressed. If you are short on time, and just want to visit one clinica, you have a better chance of finding a girl you want at high end one. But the biggest difference is the rooms, they are more luxury spa and that's what you are really paying for. I have seen girls bounce back and forth between high end and regular clinicas. In terms of girl service, the girls are about equal. I actually think I have gotten better service from regular clinica girls. You don't have to deal with the massage BS at the start of the session. In a hour session, I usually get 2 pops in a regular while at the higher end it's usually one and done. Also the girl presentation at high ends are mostly by tablet, not in person for some strange reason.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2847160]Generally, the high end SP Clinicas are about 2 x or 3 x the cost of the next tier down of Clinica (and they are about half the cost of Scandallo). What do you get for that extra expense?
1. Nicer facility / better rooms. Taj, Baronesas, and Sharon are all recently renovated, and have a more upscale environment.
2. About 1 or 2 out of 10 massagistas have more of a natural / no tatoo look vs what you'll generally find in the next tier down of Clinica.
3. Some of them (Sharon, Taj, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM. The next tier down Clinica doesn't get going until around 1 or 2 PM.
If you are a Clinica veteran and you don't want to do repeat sessions, and you like more of a natural look, you can supplement the regular Clinicas with some high quality sessions in these. The photos on the websites of Taj, Sharon, Baronesas, and Lotus are pretty accurate.[/QUOTE]Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2847194]Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Do any of the high end clinicas offer a live presentation? Or is it always tablet presentations?
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2846963]In Colombia if you go to a "Casa" you are going to have sex.....[/QUOTE]They are basically the same as casa.
A few weeks ago, I had a session at a clinica. The reception was saying she could not find my review on GPG so I wasn't qualified for discount and charged me 270. The discount price is 200. I paid and left. I checked my GPG account and I had review but it's not recent. I went back to the clinica to show the receptionist the review for the reason I don't want them to think I was lying about it because my understanding from the receptionist was that I DID NOT have review and was trying to get a discount.
Now she said that my review wasn't recent and I had to post review for each visit to get discount. I am OK with that as it's their rule but I am not going to do that. I then wanted to clarify that how much time I was charged. Was it half hour or 1 hour because I always ask for half hour for new girl. She said I went over a little then proceed to return 70 back to me which I did not ask for. That was actually weird because I wasn't planning on asking money back and did not expect her to do that.
But if she did not give me the 70, my next question was going to be why the intercom didn't ring at about 25 or 20 minutes into the session to warn me?
I post this so you are aware of a few things. In some clinicas, Locals and I am already paying less then you and I don't usually tip. Some clinicas have half hour option. There may or may not have a warning bell before time is up. I suggest that you ask the receptionist to talk to the girl before going to the room and interview her about the services you want. You don't want to negotiate in the room naked. I have done that and reported here. The girl did not do BBBJ so I asked for another girl in the room naked. The new girl came and asked for 100 extra for something that is free 99% of the time. LOL.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2847284]They are basically the same as casa.
A few weeks ago, I had a session at a clinica. The reception was saying she could not find my review on GPG so I wasn't qualified for discount and charged me 270. The discount price is 200. I paid and left. I checked my GPG account and I had review but it's not recent. I went back to the clinica to show the receptionist the review for the reason I don't want them to think I was lying about it because my understanding from the receptionist was that I DID NOT have review and was trying to get a discount.
Now she said that my review wasn't recent and I had to post review for each visit to get discount. I am OK with that as it's their rule but I am not going to do that. I then wanted to clarify that how much time I was charged. Was it half hour or 1 hour because I always ask for half hour for new girl. She said I went over a little then proceed to return 70 back to me which I did not ask for. That was actually weird because I wasn't planning on asking money back and did not expect her to do that.
But if she did not give me the 70, my next question was going to be why the intercom didn't ring at about 25 or 20 minutes into the session to warn me?
I post this so you are aware of a few things. In some clinicas, Locals and I am already paying less then you and I don't usually tip. Some clinicas have half hour option. There may or may not have a warning bell before time is up. I suggest that you ask the receptionist to talk to the girl before going to the room and interview her about the services you want. You don't want to negotiate in the room naked. I have done that and reported here. The girl did not do BBBJ so I asked for another girl in the room naked. The new girl came and asked for 100 extra for something that is free 99% of the time. LOL.[/QUOTE]I read that post from you somewhere. Sometimes we have to stand our ground. While naked. Usually in Medellin I as at Dann Carlton (they liked me, said I set a record for good looking guests, never charged me, dah) Catfishing girl or problem girls got kicked out or were not allowed onto the property. Sometimes I felt band and would give them 100 cop for uber. New country, new rules, more fun! I have high & low expectations for Brazil. Mostly HIGH! All the GFE in Colombia were SA girls except a few from La Isla, better when you see / meet them in person. But not always needed. YMMV. I agree that SA is unnecessary in Brazil. Cane
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2847217]Do any of the high end clinicas offer a live presentation? Or is it always tablet presentations?[/QUOTE]All of them are tablet only, except Sharon, where you can ask for a presentation of up to three people. It can be a little tricky using the tablets, although a few of them have occasional videos (which are more accurate) and at least you can tell who is more natural / has fewer tattoos if you care about that. Sometimes the tablet will list height too (in meters).
Has anyone used AA miles when booking Rio (SDU) to SP (CGH) ? Any issues at check in, etc?
[QUOTE=PdSuave;2847347]Has anyone used AA miles when booking Rio (SDU) to SP (CGH) ? Any issues at check in, etc?[/QUOTE]I have not used AA miles, but both airports are glorified modern bus or train stations. They are not necessarily dirty, but quite chaotic, very crowded, and a bit disorganized. Think LGA on a bad day before the remodel. That noted, I would still use them given convenience, just give yourself an extra 45 minutes if you need to check a bag (can take some time).
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2847194]Great info! I land Sept 6th. Looking at their websites it seems the high end clinicas are trying to be mini. Mini Scandallo's. For 1/2 or less money. Chicago85 We need to meet one day. I will test the merchandise on arrival and report. LOL Orospa. Oswaldo Casimiro Mller, 296 - Cidade Mones, / Sharon Premium Praa Dr. Carvalho Franco, 55 - Vila Mariana / Lotus Lounge 98 VF+Q8 Vila Olmpia, Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]Agree DonCarlos1234!
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2783507]148 is clinica Yankin. Lots of Asian guys go here. Yankin and Tangara are the largest and best clinicas in this area IMO, which rivals moema. Daily lineups are 10-20 girls each and these places get busy. I have thought about parking myself between these two clinicas instead of my usual moema. [/QUOTE]Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2847321]All of them are tablet only, except Sharon, where you can ask for a presentation of up to three people. It can be a little tricky using the tablets, although a few of them have occasional videos (which are more accurate) and at least you can tell who is more natural / has fewer tattoos if you care about that. Sometimes the tablet will list height too (in meters).[/QUOTE]If you leave without selecting anyone after the tablet presentation, is there any hassle / issue from the owner (madam) ?
I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back 'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: [URL]https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html[/URL].
I like both spots. Tangara gets more foreigners but they are otherwise pretty similar. I avoid the bar at Yankin because they allow smoking in there and customers take advantage of the option. The desk guy who is usually there is Japa.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2847399]Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2847512]If you leave without selecting anyone after the tablet presentation, is there any hassle / issue from the owner (madam) ?[/QUOTE]There is no hassle if you leave without selecting. For Oro and The Palms, they don't post photos online so going in person and viewing the tablet is the only way to get a sense of who is available. You can also make appointments for a future day in person when visiting, if someone you're interested in isn't there when you visit. For Lotus, Taj, and Baronesas, sometimes going in person is the only way to see pictures that don't cover faces, so it can be worth visiting just to confirm your interest. Generally the hosts are relaxed and friendly. You can also leave without hassle in the regular non tablet Clinicas if you aren't interested after an in person presentation.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2847516]I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back [b]'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'[/b]. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: [URL]https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html[/URL].[/QUOTE][B]Like anything in life if you want to be sure ask Direct questions to the provider.[/B] You never know, X could mean different things depending on who the provider is, meaning from one provider to another provider the same terms may include or exclude certain services. You never want to get into a situation where the provider says Oh, Thats Extra, or I Don't Do That.
I always indicate I want X, Y, and Z services. [U]OR[/U] [B]If[/B] they say "Servicios completo", I'll still make sure to ask if it includes X service (s).
Oh, the hottie in your link is nice. (Thanks for posting the link)
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2847516]I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site. After whatsapp exchange with many, and when I ask for services offered, I get back 'Servicios completo' or 'Servicios liberal'. I understand the translation but what should you really expect for service when they are not clear. It sound more of a potential bait and switch tactic where they can easily deny service and encounter a bad experience. What have you experienced with Indy's from this site? How reliable are these photos? Do you pay upon entry before service or do you pay after the service?
Here is one such hottie: [URL]https://erosguia.com.br/126757.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of this website before nor have I seen it mentioned here on the forum before. Looking at the photos of the girls, I think there is high probability this is full of fakes ads. Why not stick to the more reputable websites listed many times here before. I'll give you a hint. Search for clubmodel, mclass, private55. Most the girls on these sites are real since they paid for the ads. Of course do your homework first and be specific if you want a specific service. Also can cross reference girls with reports on gpguia.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2847399]Now we're taking. Why? Are there Asian chicks?[/QUOTE]Yankin. One of the managers is a Asian guy. They seem to have a higher percentage of white thin girls.
As for the elusive oriental or Japanese working girls, I have given up finding a house full of them. It doesn't seem to exist or it's a very good secret. I've asked local asian guys, and they don't know of any. There is a few Japanese girl at scandallo, clinicas and online but they usually not the petite spinners I prefer. That's ok, there are plenty of thin white blondes and redheads.
[QUOTE=LAHenry;2847516]I'm seeing some hotties on eros-guia site.[/QUOTE]One great thing about SP is that there are so many in person options, with all the clinicas and boates. The in person options really help you avoid the online bait and switch risk and the time wasted waiting around in the hotel. In SP it's generally easier to get what you want, more efficiently, with the popular locations discussed frequently here in this thread. It's likely safer too.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2847756]Yankin. One of the managers is a Asian guy. They seem to have a higher percentage of white thin girls.
As for the elusive oriental or Japanese working girls, I have given up finding a house full of them. It doesn't seem to exist or it's a very good secret. I've asked local asian guys, and they don't know of any. There is a few Japanese girl at scandallo, clinicas and online but they usually not the petite spinners I prefer. That's ok, there are plenty of thin white blondes and redheads.[/QUOTE]Where do I find these "thin white blondes and redheads"? Is there a place that's full of them?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2844172]Has anyone been to Curitiba, Blumenau and Florianopolis? I've heard good things about these 3 cities, but their threads seem to be inactive. Are there good looking escorts?[/QUOTE]Curitiba nothing to see there, boring city with few life.
There are more redheads in Southern Brazil than other parts of the country, Sao Paulo is still the south.
They are called ruivas in portuguese.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2847903]Where do I find these "thin white blondes and redheads"? Is there a place that's full of them?[/QUOTE]
Went to Scandallo last week and the ratio of guys to girls was good, apparently slow month there and girls were complaining how they couldn't hook anyone. A girl went to the room with me for 500 R, she told me where she use to work which I've been to and ask her to give me the same rate and she agreed LOL. She was a solid 9.
Next night solid 9.5, I got there late and it was getting towards the closing time. I asked her how much to go out, she said 1 mil and she ended up staying in my room for 12 hours.
Case in point, do not need to pay tourist / gringo price.
Funny thing, as price of entry to Scandallo has increased there has been probably less clients and girls have to lower their price instead of increasing also.
Colleagues, I had a visit to Clinica Tangara and just had to share this experience.
There's a new girl there, her name is Natasha (different girl from Nataly, who, by the way, is also wonderful). Tall, all-natural, wide hips, soft skin, magic tongue. Great friendly attitude. Very huggable.
She can speak very good English and she wants to practice more.
Being the selfless hero that I am, I gladly took it upon myself to give her a chance to practice during our encounter.
But she wants more. So now I'd like to share this opportunity with all of you.
Help Natasha with her English!
She gets to the clinica usually around 1 pm or so.
I land September 6th In the midst of Brazils Independence Day celebrations. What will be open? Any clinics. Clubs? I stay next to Casarao.
I am in contact with 3 girls that speak English and charge 500-700/ hour if I come to their place. The same to meet at mine (plus uber) all 3 are wifey material. Potential travel buddies. But no time to see how is goes, communicate and talk about traveling together. I land and leave for Rio 3 nights later.
Separate question. It seems the spa / clinic girls charge nearly the same and I wonder why because I think the online girls are the better quality (clubmodel high end etc) probably more to choose from at clinicas. With some wifey material?
You arrive 6 and 7 is independence no labor day, so 6 at night all clubs will be open and many players in the field. You should start the earliest possible.
Just confirmed that many companies will give the chance to their workers to complete friday 8-sept during the rest of the month. So expect 8-sept as kind of no labor day.
Casarao, you'll be close to Rua Augusta, the slope straight to hell (in the good sense) you can find everything on that street. Be careful with your belongings there because it's very crowded. Not crowded on the attached pics because it was Tuesday.
I would go to the higher end clubs before Casarao, because you'll be close to it the following days.
Sleep well before your trip because you'll have 3 rush days.
What time do you arrive in Guarulhos? i would recommend to take an airport taxi there, it may be expensive, but time is gold in your short trip.
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[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2848636]I land September 6th In the midst of Brazils Independence Day celebrations. What will be open? Any clinics. Clubs? I stay next to Casarao.
I am in contact with 3 girls that speak English and charge 500-700/ hour if I come to their place. The same to meet at mine (plus uber) all 3 are wifey material. Potential travel buddies. But no time to see how is goes, communicate and talk about traveling together. I land and leave for Rio 3 nights later.
Separate question. It seems the spa / clinic girls charge nearly the same and I wonder why because I think the online girls are the better quality (clubmodel high end etc) probably more to choose from at clinicas. With some wifey material?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2848805]You arrive 6 and 7 is independence no labor day, so 6 at night all clubs will be open and many players in the field. You should start the earliest possible.
Just confirmed that many companies will give the chance to their workers to complete friday 8-sept during the rest of the month. So expect 8-sept as kind of no labor day.
Casarao, you'll be close to Rua Augusta, the slope straight to hell (in the good sense) you can find everything on that street. Be careful with your belongings there because it's very crowded. Not crowded on the attached pics because it was Tuesday.
I would go to the higher end clubs before Casarao, because you'll be close to it the following days.
Sleep well before your trip because you'll have 3 rush days.
What time do you arrive in Guarulhos? ?? i would recommend to take an airport taxi there, it may be expensive, but time is gold in your short trip.
Note: In few days we'll have a second banner on the sidebars of this forum to very interesting video content. We're advertisers.[/QUOTE]Coolsville.
Arrive early 7:30 AM. I am in Brazil for 2 weeks but first 3 nights in Sao before heading to Rio for more "wholesome" outdoor activities. And I hope to have a wifey by then. LOL return to Sao after 4 nights in Rio. Although future X Wife might ask me to stay longer. Nounce says Scandallo and Casarao will be open. Don't know about clinics. Still wonder if those girls are as hot as the Clubmodel girls (who speak English) and charge around 600 brl total.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2848820]Coolsville.
Arrive early 7:30 AM. I am in Brazil for 2 weeks but first 3 nights in Sao before heading to Rio for more "wholesome" outdoor activities. And I hope to have a wifey by then. LOL return to Sao after 4 nights in Rio. Although future X Wife might ask me to stay longer. Nounce says Scandallo and Casarao will be open. Don't know about clinics. Still wonder if those girls are as hot as the Clubmodel girls (who speak English) and charge around 600 brl total.[/QUOTE]Clinicas will be open. On average the girls from clubmodel are better looking. They have to pay to be on the site.
Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.
After somebody else's review, I was interested in adding this place to my list. But, looked at the website and saw too much "trans" on the menu:
[URL]https://www.sharonpremium.com.br/terapeutas[/URL]
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2849027]Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.[/QUOTE]There's a few clinicas open (expect them to be busy) and Casarao is open too.
I can't remember which Clinicas are open but I'm pretty sure Tangara and a couple in Moema (Prime and Miruna maybe?) are.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2849027]Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
[/QUOTE]AFAIK, prime and maruna clinicas are open for daytime fun. For nighttime Casarao boete is open.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2849046]After somebody else's review, I was interested in adding this place to my list. But, looked at the website and saw too much "trans" on the menu:
[URL]https://www.sharonpremium.com.br/terapeutas[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, I went there one afternoon on my last SP trip in June. I think they had 2. It did not bother me. After fucking around in LOS for 25 years I got use to seeing ladyboys hanging around Nana and Sukhumvit. In the case of Sharon Premium, customers never see any of the trannys unless they want to because like all the high end SP clinicas, there is no lineup. So, Sharon customers are shown photoshopped photos of available girls (and trannys) only.
I have been meaning to post a review of high end clinicas. I visited several in June. The Palms was easily my favorite high ender. Lotus Lounge and Sharon came in a distant 2nd & 3rd place respectively. I did not have the time to check out the Taj, but I plan to go there when I am back in town. I like the concept: give customers boate quality girls, upscale even luxurious rooms, and quality afternoon sex for half the cost as a couple of hours at Scandallo or Bomboa. Sounds good to me! The more venues the better.
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2849115]Yes, I went there one afternoon on my last SP trip in June. I think they had 2. It did not bother me. After fucking around in LOS for 25 years I got use to seeing ladyboys hanging around Nana and Sukhumvit. In the case of Sharon Premium, customers never see any of the trannys unless they want to because like all the high end SP clinicas, there is no lineup. So, Sharon customers are shown photoshopped photos of available girls (and trannys) only.
I have been meaning to post a review of high end clinicas. I visited several in June. The Palms was easily my favorite high ender. Lotus Lounge and Sharon came in a distant 2nd & 3rd place respectively. I did not have the time to check out the Taj, but I plan to go there when I am back in town. I like the concept: give customers boate quality girls, upscale even luxurious rooms, and quality afternoon sex for half the cost as a couple of hours at Scandallo or Bomboa. Sounds good to me! The more venues the better.
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.[/QUOTE]You are my hero.
I will be exploring some of those same places. Do you think the (high end) clinica girls are potential for takeout or for getting numbers for later dates. Maybe love motel or hotel? Would you need to be discreet or be in a room first to ask for their number?
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2849191]I will be exploring some of those same places. Do you think the (high end) clinica girls are potential for takeout or for getting numbers for later dates. Maybe love motel or hotel? Would you need to be discreet or be in a room first to ask for their number?[/QUOTE]Getting the numbers of your favorite girls and seeing them on the outside is extremely doable. I have the WhatsApp line of my 2 outstanding Palm girls and I hope they are still around when I get back to SP. But remember, the rooms at these "high end" joints are very impressive, especially the rooms at the Palm. I was joking with the Palm's manager one afternoon after a session, and I told him I wanted to rent out one of his rooms and stay at the Palms instead of my 5 star hotel. KKK. The rooms are that 1st class, nicer than Scandallo rooms with sunken bedrooms and heat!
But it still all depends on the girls. My 2 favorite SP clinicas are Abboboro and the Palms. Two very, very different style of clinicas, but both have what I like. The trick at the high-end places is spotting the right girl from the pics which is not always as easy as it sounds. I look for tell signs in the photoshopped image that made it thru the edit like slender thighs or thin arms.
Isn't that pretty expensive to gru?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2849027]Wondering if there's any action in SP on Sundays or if it's same as RDJ everything closes up.
Right now I guess Labor Day sale, Copa Airlines selling RT to GRU or BsAs EZE for $530-550. If both use Sunday as one way flight day.
The joys of impulse travel planning.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2849693]Isn't that pretty expensive to gru?[/QUOTE]Copa Air just began serving Austin AUS a few weeks ago. Prices to Brazil were hovering around $800-1000.
In years past quoted almost $1300 to EZE via either AUS SAT IAH or DFW.
Got a price alert flights to Latin America out of AUS crazy low. All thru Copa and some Delta.
$250 to Costa Rica; $350 to Lima / Bogota; $550 GRU or EZE.
In past, to save money I would take bus down to Monterrey and fly to Central / South America via MTY or MEX for about $500-600.
So my mentality as it stands, this would save me 1-2 days each way of utilizing Mexico as the middle man.
I guess I'm still bitter my 4 day trip to RDJ last year had some self inflicted road bumps so vengeful flesh pounding trip is what I'm Jonesing for.
Tomorrow the World Cup qualifiers start and my team will have its first match tomorrow Friday. Something that sends me back to the 2016 nights when I had a very jealous GF who was a big fan of our national team.
So one of those nights, the matches served me as a perfect smoke screen. By then Bomboa 222 had nice restaurant and big Tv Screens. So few minutes before the matches I arrived there and sent a couple of selfies to my GF, so I could say "Hey honey, I'm in a restaurant and friends to see the match. Bla bla bla" so she could see I was in a quite normal place because there were truly lots of locals hehehehe. It worked perfect.
In 90 minutes I could f*ck at least one girl in the room upstairs and attend part of the match in the restaurant touching a juicy pair of tits and legs. Of course in the room I only had twitter notifications about the main plays of the match so I could exchange a few comments with my GF.
I made this at least in three different matches. Yeahhh futbol in South America rules!
Note: attached pic of the front door of Bomboa 222 those days. It looks like a safe zone, right?
Did anybody notice this new advertisement on this site? Seems interesting with lots of good perspectives:
[URL]https://trippingdudes.com/index.php/sao-paulo-video-walking-tours/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2850961]Did anybody notice this new advertisement on this site? Seems interesting with lots of good perspectives:
[URL]https://trippingdudes.com/index.php/sao-paulo-video-walking-tours/[/URL][/QUOTE]To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.
[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2851073]To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.[/QUOTE]They are not my vids, and I was not encouraging anyone to pay for them. In fact, there seems to be quite a lot there to see for free.
[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2851073]To each his own I guess. Paying $ for POV of just waking in to Scandallo, Tangara, Cafe photo etc? Waste of $$ I hope these aren't your vids LOL.[/QUOTE]I agree waste of money especially when you can google name of venue / address and via google maps using street view feature and view the route (I. E. , travel the route). If you want to know where to go.
Also, I don't need video to show me how to get out of an UBER and walk to an entrance of any building to the reception desk either.
Also, virtually all of the content is free on YouTube, with the abundance of nightlife/walking tour videos, just being repackaged to monetize content.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2851159]I agree waste of money especially when you can google name of venue / address and via google maps using street view feature and view the route (I. E. , travel the route). If you want to know where to go.
Also, I don't need video to show me how to get out of an UBER and walk to an entrance of any building to the reception desk either.
Also, virtually all of the content is free on YouTube, with the abundance of nightlife/walking tour videos, just being repackaged to monetize content.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I've never stepped foot on Brazilian soil yet but I've "walked" everywhere courtesy of Google Maps. More power to them though. Capitalism ya'll.
-J.
Valued Gentlemen, thanks for the quotes. As I mentioned before, this is our second banner on the forum, which has great amount of visitors. This is one of a kind forum.
The mentioned site is the creation of my company, among other sites, and we're proud to announce that we'll share our travel experience from the most attractive countries of South America during the last 20 years, not only with never been seen video / pictures, but also personal chat. That makes a whole difference because our videos include chat time as special launch offer.
Maybe most of you have access to enough free information, that's ok and I respect it, but there are thousands of visitors from other countries who may not have an account on the forum or are planning a trip and want to have an extra closer look. And we have fantastic VIP content you'll never EVER find on Youtube.
No, we're not a dating nor escort agency, so everything perfectly fine.
In the last months, tens of members have contacted me by PM asking about our content, so this site is product of many of those conversations.
Yes sir! Information and knowledge is the base of capitalism.
Attached: film pic from 2002 till 2023.
Maelstrom, JSmith80, The Critic.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2850961]Did anybody notice this new advertisement on this site? Seems interesting with lots of good perspectives:
[URL]https://trippingdudes.com/index.php/sao-paulo-video-walking-tours/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongmann;2842551]This is a great review! Very helpful!! I myself I'm into mulattos and black girls with big phat asses that are natural. Seems like you have similar taste. I've been to Rio so many times I can't even count but I've never been. To Sao Paolo outside of the airport. I always wondered if this city had the type of talent that I like or was it mainly white Brazilian chicks. Based on your report it seems Sao Paolo may be worth checking out!! Thanks!![/QUOTE]Rio definitely has more options for finding thick darker-skinned girls than SP but SP is so big that there are still good opportunities there and it's worth visiting. The difference is that in Rio there are termas like 4 x4 etc. You can go and find that type of girl, whereas in SP from my experience you will have to search online for independent girls that fit that type. I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know.
[QUOTE=UniversalX;2843436]IMHO this is disrespectful. These GDP's must know they are either close to starting or have started their period and should let you know it's a possibility it may start or has started. If they could be upfront then you could just ask for alternate services such as BJ only or Anal, etc. And avoid the mess.
They know better [B]......[/B]They know when their period starts and ends.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, girls usually know when their period is coming. I'm pretty sure most girls don't work when they have their period but I guess some are desperate for money or don't care. Either way I was super unlucky it happened to me 3 times on that trip, but has never happened to me before during any other trips or sessions back home.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2851979]Rio definitely has more options for finding thick darker-skinned girls than SP but SP is so big that there are still good opportunities there and it's worth visiting. The difference is that in Rio there are termas like 4 x4 etc. You can go and find that type of girl, whereas in SP from my experience you will have to search online for independent girls that fit that type. I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know.
I totally agree, girls usually know when their period is coming. I'm pretty sure most girls don't work when they have their period but I guess some are desperate for money or don't care. Either way I was super unlucky it happened to me 3 times on that trip, but has never happened to me before during any other trips or sessions back home.[/QUOTE]While I'm a lover of darker skinned women as well, the thoughts of a proper lighter skinned woman with glutes of the Gods sounds mighty fine. I'm sure you've found Thor's Hammer in such situations. Godspeed.
J.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2851979]I wish there was a 4 x4 equivalent in SP but it doesn't exist as far as I know. [/QUOTE]As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2852830]...For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest.....[/QUOTE]If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2852976]If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.[/QUOTE]4 x 4 is a much smaller club than Casarao. It may seem crowded there, but there is usually a place to sit and invite girls over. So, getting friendly in-club (I know you know what I mean) happens a lot in 4 x 4. Alternatively, finding a seat in Casarao in prime time is a lot harder, so most people just walk around, stand & flirt. Obviously, you can still get friendly with a girl with the two of you standing, but not as friendly as sitting down together with a table in front of you. KKK.
But in my experience, once I take a girl out of Casarao things heat up rapidly. I have tried the ST hotel next door a couple of times, and it is a dump. I don't like it, so I now take my Casauao girls back to my hotel where I have had many great sessions with passionate, GFE kind of girls, whom I later exchanged whatsapp numbers with. The key is that it is much easier to get something going outside of the club with a boate girl than any terma girl. Boate girls are FL's, independent entrepreneurs. They do not work for the club therefore they are usually available to see you whenever you like and they really do want to see you on the outside because an outside date means they don't have to go to the club that night.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2852976]If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.[/QUOTE]Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2853044]Me too. I agree. Quatro por Quatro is the easy pick for me over Casarao. I like the environment, atmosphere, and "feel" better at the former. Also, the fact that the girls are walking around in skimpy little bikinis, lingerie, and other very revealing attire allowing you to check them out better adds to it all. I'll take 4 X 4 over Casarao.[/QUOTE]I have always liked the "ambience" inside 4 x4. In my initial field report I think I said the vibe felt like a party party. Really great! But there is a big reason why 4 x4 is my 2nd favorite terma in RJ and Solarium is my favorite. I think you guys can figure out what that reason is.
Anyway, yeah Casarao is a fucking meat market. So I ask, what is wrong with a meat market? I like meat markets. KKK. There used to be a great one in BKK called Nataree. Too bad it got shut down for having a few underage girls. Really Dumb!
So, the first time I went to Casarao, I was duly impressed with the cold, urbane, minimalist, interior landscape and number of people. It was raw, and it felt real. I instantly recognized the joint as a meat market with a ton of girls. So, feeling more or less at home, I walked around both levels looking, looking, until I found a pretty, indigenous / mixed race spinner to my liking. I bought her a drink, she spoke some English, we got a little friendly, and then went next door to the ST hotel where she went a little wild on me in bed. The total cost for everything was under 600. I was very satisfied.
So, that's what happens at my 3rd favorite SP Boate. But at my 2 favorite Boates, which we all know are a lot more expensive, there is a lot more of that "hands on" atmosphere, good feeling that you guys mentioned earlier only here it is done on a more upscale level. As a result, when I go to Scandallo or Bomboa, I usually spend 4 or 5 hours there and make an evening out of it including diner and a possible 2nd girl. It is always money well spent.
A. H.
Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!
Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.
Comparisons:
Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.
Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.
Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.
Off To Bomba.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2853160]Scandallo is in a class by itself. Not all 10's but I saw nothing under a 7. The band was great also In one night you will see and if you have any game, some of you will meet and have a great time with the most gorgeous girls in your life. You will be amazed. LOL don't tell anyone!
Be careful that you get a FIRM commitment of what you will pay, for how long and what's included. It is very possible you will pay too much. Alas, as my friend, a manager in Las Vegas says, "how can you put a price on true love? ' he cracks me up.
Comparisons:
Tijuana. Hong Kong club in Tijuana I have seen some (but very few) girls of that caliber. And not very often. Although hktj has almost as many girls to choose from. The rooms at Scandallo are much nicer. Ok the VIP rooms are.
Colombia (mostly Medellin) also has some girls of that caliber at La Isla and some other places and they are less expensive but you need more "game" to outbid / out maneuver other guys to meet them. They are in high demand. So unlike Scandallo, it's not easy or guaranteed if you are looking for top talent, it's there. I was able to use Seeking and local models I met as referrals. Those girls are Scandallo par girls at similar (some even higher) prices. Still not all of them in one place in one night like Scandallo.
Las Vegas - 3 venues there out rank Scandallo in gaudiness, lighting, decorations and ways to take your money, The girls are Scandallo quality. (nearly half are) They will game you, tease you but there is very little sex in the VIP room. Don't waste your time unless you have thousands to entice them to leave the club without management knowing. (it happens) These girls make $1,000+ / night easily without being able to legally perform sex.
Off To Bomba.[/QUOTE]Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?
Be
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2853174]Heaven on Earth. No place like it. Have you been to any clinicas to compare the quality for research purposes?[/QUOTE].
OH yes and I am not finished, I will say so far the best 2 BJ's in my life happened in Sao Paulo clinics and the sex? OMG don't tell anyone. Rio has the best scenery. Sao has the girls.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2852976]If everything is the same except the quantity of the girls (Casarao has far more), I would pick 4 x4. I don't even go to Casarao anymore even if I live within walking distance. The locals that I know who visit Casarao would go there and pay for dry entry. They don't drink, they don't buy drinks. They are precise and quick. They spotted their girls, took her, had sex, then left. The environment is different. I feel the girls in Casarao are more business like while the Cariocas at 4x4 are more girlfriend like.[/QUOTE]I pick Casarao based on my experience during 10+ visits during my past 2 trips to SP. Casarao consistently had many good looking young girls to choose compared to 4 x4.
I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2853759] I agree with your comments about Casarao being a meet market and most girls being very business like. The thing I like about Casarao is that you can try most of the good ones without breaking the bank. On average half hour sessions cost 250 to 300 reals (+50 for room). You may take them to your hotel for longer sessions based on their performance during the trail run. I rather do half hour sessions in Casarao than spending 330 reals at Abbabora (this clinica rarely worked for me). Unfortunately 4 x4 is not that exciting for me because it rarely had more than few good looking ones who usually are busy. As an occasional short term visitor I rather go where there are plenty to choose from than fight over few.[/QUOTE]Quantity & quality. I think we are in general agreement on this. I do a similar in-house trial run session, at least one, with all my Scandallo & Bomboa girls before I ask them to my hotel for more, more of everything. KKK.
I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.
Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2852830]As I am sure you are aware, there are no termas in SP, so a 4 x4 equivalent is not going to be found. But so what? Sp has a 3 boates that are better than any RJ terma if quantity and quality matter. For example, compare 4 x4 with Casarao on any given night around midnight. If both bars where in the same city, and I HAD to choose between one of them, it would be no contest. I would choose Casarao almost every time. And Casarao is my 3rd favorite SP boate. Believe me when I tell you there is nothing in RJ to match the top 2 SP Boates.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2853949]Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.[/QUOTE]This is the beauty of our sport. Every player is entitled to his opinion and is free to pursue his bliss anyway, anywhere he prefers. Preferences begin with the type of girls we like, the kind of sex that turns us on, then the choice of venues available, which cities we prefer to play in, our favorite countries to travel to, and lastly throw in any financial constraints and or individual spending limits and you have it. Everyone has their favorite fill in the blank. All I can say is the more options we have, and the higher the quantity of friendly girls on hand, the better as long as the quality is solid.
[QUOTE=Tribute15;2853949]Casarao over 4 x4. How do you even get there. Beautiful nude women vs clothed women. Brightly light environment vs darkly light enviroment. Area where all the ladies congregate, like fishes in a barrel vs moving up and down between sections and floors. Casarao is o jammed packed its so difficult to spot talent compared to space you have in 4 X4.
It's a no brainer. 4 x4 any day, even over Scandallo.[/QUOTE]I would counter that 4 x4 usually has 8-15 girls at a given night and once you go 3 times you've seen them all and their moms.
Casarao is always a different line up. You get girls coming in from scadallo, freelancers and girls just trying to make some extra cash for rent.
I met a girl in casarao in March, super chill and down to earth and now she's in miami on a trip and we met up and got some birthday sex (her's).
Casarao is like one of those kinder chocolate egg surprise candy. Its a mix bag but you definitely will find something interesting.
4 x4 is great but it gets stale after a few trips. It's only so big so not fair to compare.
Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2854183]Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).[/QUOTE]How is mongering in Manaus, how does it compare to SP?
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2854183]Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).[/QUOTE]I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2853906]
I am surprised, however, that you don't like Abbaboro. It is one of my Moema favorites. I never had a really bad session there and although all my sessions were not 4th of July, I have had a number of memorable ones at Abboboro. So, I can't think of a better place to go for early afternoon fun at a very reasonable price. I seem to like Abboboro girls. Ha Ha.
[/QUOTE]Abbobora seem to work for lot of men. Unfortunately I am not one of them. I guess I am not picking right girls. Also don't like dealing with one of the mamasan's scummy attitude (she only does it for tourists) when you don't pick a girl. Prime and Maruna worked for me much better and their management is very nice whether you pick a girl or not.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2853906]
But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. [/QUOTE]The only upscale clinica I tried was Lotus Lounge. Sounds like you have an eye for spotting good ones from all the photoshopped pictures. Good for you. I am not a fan of tablet lineup so I tend to avoid these high-end clinicas. I rather take my chances in places where I can see the girls even tough I don't always pick right ones.
Cool, this helps thank you and SP it is.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2854243]I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.[/QUOTE]
Hello there!
We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.
- Walking to clinica Tangara.
- Walking to clinica Red.
- Walking to clinica Prime.
- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.
- Walking to clinica Miruna.
- Walking to clinica Abbobora.
Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.
Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!
Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2849115]
OK. So, the Palms was the only high end clinica that I visited more than once during my last trip. KKK. Of my 4 Palm girls, 2 were outstanding and I mean smokin hot, great in bed, and definitely worth the money (400 br to the house / 350 br to the girl) and 2 were not. The problem, as I see it, with all of these high end clinicas is in the selection process; the photoshopped photo lineup shown on a tiny laptop. I don't know why they do it. My guess is it is to keep the girl's identity under wraps as much as possible. Anyway, I had a great time twice at the Palms with boate quality tier 1 girls when the girl I selected turned out to be better looking than her photos. That's 50% of the time I knocked the ball out of the park at the Palms! The other times that I went there and to the other 2 high end clinicas mentioned above, I received friendly, good service, but felt I had overpaid especially compared to what I was getting for around half the money at Abboboro and Prime.
But I really liked those 2 Palm girls, KKK, and so I will accept the risks involved in the selection process and I will go back for more in December.[/QUOTE]Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854561]Hello there!
We've just finished the edition and upload of six walking tours in Moema neighborhood, the Clinica Nation. A place you may walk during your next Sao Paulo visit, or a zone that brings good memories to you.
- Walking to clinica Tangara.
- Walking to clinica Red.
- Walking to clinica Prime.
- Walking to clinica Dos Carinas.
- Walking to clinica Miruna.
- Walking to clinica Abbobora.
Also a first photo story of illusion of passion based on a true story that started in a bar not so many times mentioned on the Sao Paulo forum: Zeus Bar.
Where? You just need to follow the Walking tour link on the side bars of the forum!
Note: Videos were recorded in public areas only.[/QUOTE]Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854583]Hey bud, kinda late but need to ask! When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. And yes they have a lot more photos of the same girls in different poses and outfits. If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. The owner is from England.
I also met their photographer. He was doing sessions for Lotus Lounge girls when I was there and works for some of the other top clinics.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854583]When you went to the palms, did they show you the exact same pics as they have on their website (faces only) or were you able to see full body pics? I'm picky as hell as well and I'd hate being unhappy when I finally see the girl in person. Think there would've been any way to switch her if you didn't like her? Or even to tell the manager "I can't decide between these 2 girls, can I see them in person first?
[URL]https://www.thepalms.com.br/single-project[/URL][/QUOTE]Upon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.
So, I knew I made a mistake the minute she walked into my room, but I could not think of a polite way out. She was very friendly and sweet, so I decided to take one for the team even though I am well aware that I could have insisted on a change of girl. So, the session started out slow due to my lack of desire, but eventually she turned me on, and everything turned out pretty good.
The next time I went to Palms I paid more attention to inconsistencies in the photos looking for clues indicating a slender / natural body type. As a result of my efforts, my 2nd and 3rd Palms girls did not disappoint. They were more or less perfect. KKK. And in fact, I think they were both better looking in person than their photos indicated. The service was outstanding with these two as well, so I asked them for their WhatsApp which they both happily gave me.
Then my 4th Palms girl was a near miss. She was drop dead gorgeous in her photos with a near perfect, natural body, but in person she was a pretty girl next door type with a tight, very attractive, natural body. The session was pretty good, and the girl performed well, but you know, it was not nearly as good as my 2 previous sessions. I consider this girl a possible repeat thanks to her great body, demure personality and passion, but I doubt I will ever get around to her again. She was definitely better looking than average clinica girls, but not up to Scandallo tier 1 quality IMHO.
I like your idea of asking the manager to see a specific girl or girls that interest you before making a selection. I doubt it will work, but it never hurts to ask. It is probably more productive to tell the manager or receptionist what you like, for example, natural tits, and let them indicate which girls have that quality. They want you to be happy, so you keep coming back.
In addition, the customer has the right to cancel a session or request a change of girl if the girl that walks into his room is not acceptable to him. But you better make your mind up quick before anything happens and I would not make a habit of rejecting girls in the room at any particular establishment, or you will earn a bad reputation at that establishment. It is better to stop going to a particular "high end" clinica if this sort of thing (selection disappointment) happens too often.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2854649]Yeah, those are real girls with great lighting, very good makeup and some Photoshop. If you go there in person they have an English speaking manager (perfect English) who if he likes you will give you excellent advice. <snip> If they did a line up it would take a lot of time and probably they would need to raise your price. Even looking at the tablet you can get lost. LOL One of the top clinics I visited. [/QUOTE]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.
I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.
The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.
I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2854588]Nice HiddenEye. What's the URL for your website? I can't the advertisement on the site.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854702]I'm an advertiser but I must follow forum rules. I'm not allowed to share the direct link in the post.
The banner on the side is: Sao Paulo Club Walking Tours.
I'll send the URL over private messages to you and those interested.
Thanks![/QUOTE]What's the difference from looking at Google street view?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854678]Upon arrival the receptionist will show prospective customers selected pics of the available girls which most definitely include facial and body shots together. These photos are similar in quality to the ones posted on their website and sent in their emails to customers. There is no bait and switch although a girl can look different in reality. I am into slim, natural, pretty girls and I am not into silly cones or butt enhancements, so I have to look very carefully at the photos in order to make a calculated guess. On my 1st visit I choose a Japanese Brazilian girl and that was an error. KKK. She was the same girl as in her photos and although she did not have an once of fat on her well-toned body, and her small tits were totally natural; her body was too "athletic" to suit my tastes and I never would have chosen her if I had seen her in person first.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.
The girls know everything that is going on in the places with or without lineups. They monitor the public areas via the cameras so they can avoid customers for various reasons including that they don't want to be surprised by relatives or acquaintances who aren't aware of their profession.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854686]My quess the reason clinicas like the Palms do not do LIVE lineups is to eliminate jealousies that might arise among the girls over repeat clients. With no lineups the girls have no idea what is going on or who is in the place leaving the customers to freely choose whoever they want without any perceived pressure or repercussions from his favorite repeat girls.[/QUOTE]
I know BBBJ is usually included in the clinicas, does that include CIM as well?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. ...[/QUOTE]You can talk to the girl or ask the girl to come out after line up to talk to her. I think choosing from a tablet is a little like internet shopping.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]... I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.[/QUOTE]That is more common in Tangara for locals.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2854704]Regardless of live or choosing from a tablet, the thing I hate about choosing from a lineup is that you can't talk to the girl first to see if there's any chemistry number 1. And then number 2, and maybe even more importantly, you have to choose before you know if the girl offers the services you want. It's just not the most customer-friendly approach, and I don't like it. I will always prefer those establishments where I can mix and mingle with the girls first before choosing rather than picking from a "cold" lineup.[/QUOTE]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.
Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.
They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.
And for those who want to see the streets that have been walked, it can be a nostalgic experience.
And most important, all our videos include chat time so you can ask specific questions to us, online, not only about clubs and clinicas also transportation, meals, local politics a seasoned traveler in Brazil can answer in four languages.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2854726]What's the difference from looking at Google street view?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854743]Thanks for your reply. My type is mostly a pretty face + big fat ass. Did it seem most of them had huge asses?
You think so? My guess is it's simply a way to make more money. Think about it, if you see the lineup in person and aren't interested in anyone, you leave (I would do that). If you don't see the lineup, you're essentially "tricked" into picking the best one off of photoshopped pics. A lot of guys end up banging the girl anyway, even if they're not THAT into her when she shows up in the room. You did it, I did it, most of us already did it. Also, those girls are not "seperate" when they're behind the scenes, they're probably all in one room on their phones / talking to each other.[/QUOTE]I don't know about most of them having "huge" asses, KKK, but girls with pretty faces, large breasts, and large butts are a well-represented type in the Palms. I think you will find plenty of girls there in your target group to choose from.
Your theory that the house earns a net profit from its use of digital photos because some guys are more reluctant to walk after a girl enters his room, does not consider all the guys who are turned off by digital photo selection in the first place and do not go to these kinds of clinicas. Plus, there are a lot of guys who would walk if the girl was a letdown. So, I am not convinced this is a long-term money making strategy. We shall see.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2854786]Hi Sperto, that's a wonderful question.
They are videos where you can see how the streets really look like (cars, bikes, buses running, garbage trucks, street vendors or people who look like, etc) and how it sounds like (loud airplanes at certain points). Google Street view gives you a muted frozen good approach yes. But video killed the radio stars, as the 80's song says.[/QUOTE]No matter if I go to a hotel, restaurant, shop or puteiro I don't care about how the street look like. Many guys would go by taxi or Uber, others would go by metro or buses. When visiting a puteiro isn't like you enter a favela, you're just going to a specific address. Using Google Maps it's impossible to miss. If you really wants to attract clients you propably should have some videos from the inside of the puteiros. If not the girls at least the reception, lounge area and the rooms.
Wow what a whirlwind trip. Unfortunately I do not have any new girls to tell you about. I had dates (and it felt more like dates) with three girls that I met on previous trips. One from Photoacompanhantes, One from Casaro, and one from a clinic. All came to my hotel and stayed all night and most of the next day with me.
Part of the reason I am reporting this is to let everyone know that you can strike gold in many different ways. Sure there are some bait and switch on photo but I did two nights with my previously met one from there. She is not advertising now so I will not offer her. She was so excited to see me. She initiated love making 3 times the first night and twice the next day. I would not have believed I could do that! I met the Casaro one on New Years night this year. We met at the club, drank one drink and I told her I wanted her to come to my hotel. She said she was hungry and that she would buy her own sandwich. After I bought her out of the club she actually did buy her own sandwich and a soda for me. I was very impressed! Then she stayed all night even though the agreement was for 1 1/2 hours at the hotel. She was obviously excited to see me again and went out of her way to come to me and make my night wonderful. She revealed to me that the night we met was only her 4th night in SP. The one from the clinic appears to truly think she is in love with me. LOL but she does view me as a money tree.
I hope to be able to go for Christmas and New Years again this year. I will make a special point to visit the clubs and Clinics and give reports.
I met with two other ISGers and we had a wonderful sushi lunch. Hopefully we will be able to meet again.
You can hang out and "flirt" with the girls as long as you want in the flagship Vila Mariana clinicas Tangara and Yankin, among others. You don't get the mood lighting, music, and furnishings of the boates but in the end if the priority is sex well, you know where I'm going with this.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854783]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2854783]You make very good point. I generally prefer Boates, Termas, Go Go's, Nightclub's and pick up bars over clinicas, prives, and Thai oily massage parlors for the very reasons you point out. Right or wrong, I believe that spending a little time flirting and getting to know a working girl before deciding to take her somewhere improves the overall quality of the session. A lot of guys think that is hooey. But I also really enjoy the flirting and drinking part, so yeah, why would I change something if I like it and it works really well?
Because, I also enjoy an occasional afternoon romp in one of my favorite clinicas with friendly girls that I probably would not see anywhere else. It is a different experience, more utilitarian, yes, but it can still be very good and even a GFE too. Some of these Clinca girls are truly amazing in this respect.
Anyway, the entire set up at a clinica is totally different from that of a boate. The girls work for the house. They are not independent contractors. There is no time or place for flirting and getting to know a girl in these kinds of venues, but places like Abboboro and Prime survive and make money on their reputations for having reasonably attractive girls, doing what they are supposed to do, satisfying customers, at a reasonable price. And because there is an implied level of service it boils down to, you are going to have a good time here with one of our girls. This different relationship between the clinica and it's employees replaces the need for the punter to establish a vibe with a girl before hand or even discuss prices and kinds of servce.
And let's face it, another key incentive to spend some afternoon time in Moema is that it ain't a bad thing to save a few bucks once in a while either. KKK. I have done a couple of SP trips in the past where I spent all my recreational time in the boates or with boate girls. It is a good way to go, I had a lot of fun, and spent a hell of a lot of money doing it, but I have also found that a little variety in the afternoon clincas breaks up my time and makes my trip even better. It is good to do both venues.[/QUOTE]Of course we are all different but I am with Axel on this. I loooove the flirt and date part and affection (beyond sex). So there is this spectrum. Least interaction is a point and click Clinica girl. And most interaction is Seeking Arrangement type date where you have dinner and drinks first. Maybe even dancing. And sometimes they spend the night. Once you have a rapport with a girl you can spend a lot of time together that includes but is not limited to sex. In London last week spent two full days with a fave girl including 5 hours at the club. This is true GFE and some guys like me love it and others could care less.
Between the clinicas and Seeking lie the Boates and to a lesser extent the termas in Rio. You spend some time with a girl. Maybe even make out or dance for 20 minutes or more (my first Scandallo girl we danced and made out for two hours but that's prob exceptional).
Of course you can also convert a girl to a more "date" format if she likes you and is willing. More than a few times I've moved an agency escort off the books and gone on dates and overnights. Same thing with Clinica and Boate girls.
Final note is while Seeking is best for cities that don't have an active scene like SP you can still score some amazing girls. I had a 9. 5 in Rio on a Sunday (everthing closed) for a three hour date for R500. She was amazing. So def keep your options open.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2854243]I have done both and you can't even compare them. It's completely different leagues. In BA there are no Boates and clinicas. There's even not a great outcall scene imo. I was able to find two beautiful girls on Seeking Arrangements and had an amazing time. But others swear the BA girls on Seeking are stuck up. Active discussion on the Seeking thread on this. But for amazing P4 P SP can't be beat.[/QUOTE]Very true that SP is amazing for P4 P, and way better than BA in that regard IMO.
However, a boate is open in BA now, actually has been open for a while.
Delirios, in Recoleta, near where the famous bar Newport used to be.
I've had luck recently in BA with an incall / outcall site an Argentine guy showed me.
Met a couple very sweet girls from Paraguay.
Again, I would choose SP any time over BA for P4 P, but some fun can be had in BA.
I'll probably write a report soon in the BA site about the club Delirios.
A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.
I like the one behind the Burger King. The name escapes me now. There are indeed quite a few of them lined up as are the typical cabanas and no tell motels you find near every airport in Latin America.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2855111]A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2855324]I like the one behind the Burger King. The name escapes me now. There are indeed quite a few of them lined up as are the typical cabanas and no tell motels you find near every airport in Latin America.[/QUOTE]Enjoy Spa I guess you mean.
My guess is it is a combination of the fairly central location and affordable rents because the low flying aircraft make it less desirable for residential use.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2855111]A great number of Clinicas are located right in front of the Congonhas Airport Track.
But why? Is it because domestic travelers making time in between flights? Or real state and loud sound of airplanes landing?
What is your guess?
The truth is you can walk 7 of them in a one full day walking tour.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the one. It's my late afternoon favorite in Moema. I've had a bit of good luck there.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;2855515]Enjoy Spa I guess you mean.[/QUOTE]
Or maybe is to cover the orgasm screams when planes are landing! Hahahahahahaha.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2855523]My guess is it is a combination of the fairly central location and affordable rents because the low flying aircraft make it less desirable for residential use.[/QUOTE]
After talking to friends and reading profusely. Asking questions. I thought I was ready. But No where near! LOL.
Arrived far too early at GRU airport. No Uber cars or taxis available. Took a "black car" $175 brl. 1 HR 20 min ride near Casaro dowtown. Also claimed my card did not process. Another $40 usd stolen. Whatever – (fix later). Was too tired to deal. Airbnb check in took 30 minutes. Fortunately Google Fi worked to access my info and prove I had a reservation. JET LAG was more than I planned for. Coming from Vegas took 17 hours. I had to adjust my sleep patterns. Probably 12 hour difference as we sleep till Noon here. LOL.
The Airbnb was in a good location except I thought I had caught a cold. It turned out that the room, the bed sheets, were all heavily scented washed with chemicals and fabric softener. Had an allergic reaction feeling sick for 3 days staying there. Did not go to Casaro which was my plan. I elt drained. Ahh but not so much that the next day.
2nd Day another long Uber ride to Lushness Spa Analia Franco. To see Milaide. Rejected her when she arrived. Had gained 20 lbs. Took another named Julia. Her Photos not as good but in person well worth it. She says, "shall we make a mess?" and pours oil all over her body. It was a wonderful sight and a terrific experience rubbing, slathering her body on mine. She gave me her number although I didn't ask. Apparently I have had a sheltered life, missing out in Colombia, Mexico and the USA?
3rd day. I made it to Lotus Spa in Moma. I guess it was luck, fate or just that Brazil is amazing! It was the best blow job and close to the best sex of my life! So of course, I asked if she was interested in seeing Rio with me. She said yes but I only speak Portuguese. (Google translate works wonders) I said don't worry we will get you a sun hat (sombrero) a guitar and you can be naked the whole trip. Singing, we laughed. She said but I do have skills! (an understatement) She sang to me in Portuguese, naked. I have no idea what were the words but she sang well! And looked even better. Now I start to think, is this the way the women are here in Brazil? God bless this country. We exchanged numbers.
Off to Rio. Was in contact with 2 ISG guys but still adjusting to Jet Lag and feeling sick I never saw either. Sorry guys. I determined that Sao Paulo was going to require much more time investigating Clinics (this is actually part business, really it is) so I cut my trip to Rio down to only 5 days. I also thought let me take a vacy in Rio, avoid the girls and do lots of touristy things. I was sad that Neon would have to wait for my return and didn't call her.
Rio day 1 - Stayed at Premier Copacabana Hotel. 3 blocks from the ocean. Was kind of 50's classic design, nice place, ugly rooms, good service, multiple languages and great breakfast, hard beds but no allergies so I WAS HAPPY. I am sure I could have brought in guests but I did not care. Another minor problem, I cracked a front tooth loose. Dental wax for a temporary. Was afraid to smile. Got over it but damn. I figured Rio was for sightseeing anyway, not girls. The ocean air was exhilarating especially after Sao Paulo's Airbnb.
Day 2 Rio – went to Barra de Tijuca, Classico Beach Club and wandered the beach. It was a holiday so lots of people (too many) but not near as many as back in Copacabana En route back passed the Lake of Rio. Stopped in Centro at Selina Hostel ad back to the hotel.
Day 3 Rio Took Harbor Bay cruise, nice photo options. Beautiful coastline! Blurry but I think this was the night I went to Monte Carlo. 21 girls all ugly except one. Would not do BBBJ (I didn't care) she was very good looking. 8+ Gave me her number. After Sao Paulo this was boring. If she was the first girl I met, I would have been very happy. Now getting slightly spoiled in Brazil. But Rio was not going to be about sex anyway, Ha.
Day 4 – Sugar Loaf cable car. I am an artist / photographer and I appreciate beauty in all its forms. . I sat overlooking Rio for 2 hours. WOW. Great photos will last a lifetime.
Day 5 – maybe I lost a day? Went on their huge merry go round. View of downtown, favelllas and Christ the Redeemer. I took 25 Ubers in 6 days (so far) trying to see / do as much as I could.
Day 6 – flight back to Sao Paulo to a new / better Airbnb overlooking the river and skyline. I almost cried looking back over Rio. They put me in the front row seat by the window. I could have stayed there a lifetime (even longer with a travel companion) Nice flight attendant!
Next 6 days in Sao Paulo – another time consuming check in at Airbnb. Inside the view was better than expected. Huge TV, (I never watch TV, LOL) dysfunctional layout except the desk / balcony is glass enclosed overlooking most of Sao Paulo. Beautiful. Bed is extremely comfortable. And yes it's girl friendly – just never used that feature. I went to 6 Clinicas, plus Scnadallo. Went to Lotus a 2nd time and left from there to the airport (2 hours by Uber) during rush hour.
More to come plus photos, just it's 4:30 am in Vegas, time to sleep.
DonCarlos next you go, Milaide is super worth it. I bareback her and it was one of the warmest and wet pussy I had. Top 5 for sure. I would bust in her pussy and lay in it for like 10 min LOL.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2855985]2nd Day another long Uber ride to Lushness Spa Analia Franco. To see Milaide. Rejected her when she arrived. Had gained 20 lbs. Took another named Julia. Her Photos not as good but in person well worth it. She says, "shall we make a mess?" and pours oil all over her body. It was a wonderful sight and a terrific experience rubbing, slathering her body on mine. She gave me her number although I didn't ask. Apparently I have had a sheltered life, missing out in Colombia, Mexico and the USA?.[/QUOTE]
Alex. Which of the upscale clinicas are you referring too? That is worth the effort to check out. Thanks.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2853906]But recently I started checking out a few "upscale" clinicas. I posted about that a few weeks ago or a month ago. Anyway, what I found was that with a little luck and skill in choosing the right girl, it was possible to have great sex with a model quality, Scandallo type girl in the afternoon for 750 BR. Is this a good price? I think it depends on how good one is at spotting winners from photoshopped pics on a small computer screen. I was "lucky" 50% of the time and those sessions were worth every penny. Great girls in bed! Beautiful to look at, and I don't throw that term around very often. So, I think this is another possible venue to consider if you are bored with the Moema clinicas or if you are out to shag a tier 1 in the afternoon. And once you have met a tier 1 in the afternoon and she proved herself to be repeat worthy; it is easy to exchange WhatsApp numbers for future rendezvous.[/QUOTE]
Sep 2 - 9.
Got to SP after spending a week in Rio. I always stayed in Moema which is very convenient for visiting clinicas. For a change I stayed in an Airbnb in Jardim Paulista. Nice and safe area to stay, close to Casarao but you have to take Uber to visit Moema clinicas which is not that convenient. I plan to stay in Moema in future even tough airplane noise is a issue but walkable to many clinicas.
Visited 3 clinicas and 2 boetes.
Clinicas:
Prime:
I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?
I saw Andressa, a 25 yo blond, lived in USA and speaks like an American. I had a good time.
I also saw my favorite Prime blonde girl Karen (pronounced kary. She is in her 30's now). This is probably 5 or 6th time. I saw her.
Maruna:
Visited couple of time, sessioned once with Jazzy, a 21 yo pale skinned and a little bit chubby girl. Nice set of natural boobs, tight pussy and tiny little pink asshole (I couldn't convince her to do anal even tough I offered extra). I enjoyed the session.
Abbobora:
Most of my visits are below average except of 1 or 2 visits. I chose Julia, a 20 yo girl. It was a bad choice because of her saggy tits, unenthusiastic blowjob and the rest wasn't that good either. I plan to avoid visiting this clinica and stay clear of the scummy manasan's pressure tactics.
Scandallo:
Visited once on Tuesday (Sep 5th). Entered the club just before 7 pm. Paid 300 reals entrance which is all consumable. The garden area back of the building was open and mostly full when I got there. I was surprised to see lot of girls and man that early. I think there were more than 150 girls by 10 pm and that is the most I have seen for a Tuesday. I ate some food, enjoyed couple of drinks, talked to few girls and left without sessioning.
Casarao:
Visited 5 of the 7 days I was in SP. Club was packed during every one of my visits with lots of good looking girls to pick. Sampled 8 young girls, none of them were amazing but they all performed well. Here are the ones I remember:
Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.
Precilla a 23 yo blonde.
Bia a 20 yo.
Thalia a 23 yo 170 cm tall very cute girl.
Camily a 19 yo 175 cm tall pretty girl (German parents).
Marcela a 20 yo cute girl.
On my return to Sao, Wednesday. I planned to visit all high end clinicas. First I went to visit an online Club Model girl (was a bad experience. Nothing like the photos, FAT yuk. Lived downtown in tweaker / high crime neighborhood) I was worried I would not make it out alive. The only dangerous place I passed through. Actually locked inside triple locked security doors at the building with hookers, druggies, transistors, all that crap. Finally someone let me out and an Uber rescued me and I was off to Scandallo to change the vibe!
Scandallo, I already posted a little last week. They only charged me 100 brl to enter (Met 3 girls who sat at the table with me. (gin and tonics) grab ass and watched them (pic attached) kissing each other. This is the way it should be. LOL but I was still sober so I chased them off. Got their phone numbers. Enjoyed the vibe, music and constant female traffic walking by. Then I saw my choice. Anna lived in Europe, mostly Germany and Brazil. Sexy, Expensive and wants more. Go figure. (pics attached) She spoke perfect English, (+ 4 other languages) had incredible body, face and artistic tattoos. Heaven on earth! I tried to resist. After 30 minutes we went upstairs. That was an incredible experience and the room was also huge and very nice. Dual showers. She was a pro international traveler. OMG the memories. All these girls wanted to visit my Airbnb. But I had more things to do. They said let's just have diner then. And I told them If I sit across from you all at dinner we will end up in bed at my place. They laughed but no pressure. Also spoke English.
So the next day was exhausted, recuperating. Till it was too late for clinicas. Following day I went to Lushness in Moma (their 2nd location). This girl surprisingly spoke perfect English was studying to be a nutritionist, Fucking gorgeous. Somehow we got more time (by accident) and ended up talking a lot about the club, my art and (again) I asked if she would like to take a trip to Buzios later in December. She was honest and only said maybe, gave me her number. See her in Sao Paulo, no problem.
Over the next few days that were left. I visited Oro Spa. They have a English speaking manger who went over the photos with me and gave his insights about the girls. Pic attached. (snuck this one) she looked similar to a girl I saw at a different place. Turns out the photographer shoots these girls with the same furniture and yes similar poses. I met him (at Lotus) and we will be meeting next trip.
Visited The Palms and Lotus again. A manger friend of the owner at Palms was interested in my art and thought I should talk to the owner who is from England. (not enough time this trip) All these places tell you about the massage options and I just laugh and say, "I did not travel 10,000 miles to get a massage. I am looking for intimacy" They do not feel like meet markets. They all charge 750 brl. For full service (very cute girls, some were terrific to be with) it's worth it. I did not tip. All but one spoke either good English or enough we didn't use the translator much. The last girl Violeta had traveled all over Colombia and Mexico. And we had fun comparing our experiences. Recent scars from breast surgery but her face, wow.
IMHO there is not much for sightseeing / tourism in Sao unless you count restaurants. Rio beats Sao hands down. Taking some trips with girls would make it even more fun. I could have but I needed at least 3 weeks. This trip was just an exploration. Photos you can find on their websites so no undisclosed pix here.
Also I did not have enough time to compile experiences and meetings at all the places I wanted to go. I think I took about 35 uber trips. Sao Paulo is NOT a small town (pic attached from my Airbnb, misc girls and a little of Rio) there is no limit to the beauty you will find. I'll be back.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2856145]Sep 2 - 9.
Got to SP after spending a week in Rio. I always stayed in Moema which is very convenient for visiting clinicas. For a change I stayed in an Airbnb in Jardim Paulista. Nice and safe area to stay, close to Casarao but you have to take Uber to visit Moema clinicas which is not that convenient. I plan to stay in Moema in future even tough airplane noise is a issue but walkable to many clinicas.
Visited 3 clinicas and 2 boetes.
Clinicas:
Prime:
I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?
I saw Andressa, a 25 yo blond, lived in USA and speaks like an American. I had a good time.
I also saw my favorite Prime blonde girl Karen (pronounced kary. She is in her 30's now). This is probably 5 or 6th time. I saw her.
Maruna:
Visited couple of time, sessioned once with Jazzy, a 21 yo pale skinned and a little bit chubby girl. Nice set of natural boobs, tight pussy and tiny little pink asshole (I couldn't convince her to do anal even tough I offered extra). I enjoyed the session.
Abbobora:
Most of my visits are below average except of 1 or 2 visits. I chose Julia, a 20 yo girl. It was a bad choice because of her saggy tits, unenthusiastic blowjob and the rest wasn't that good either. I plan to avoid visiting this clinica and stay clear of the scummy manasan's pressure tactics.
Scandallo:
Visited once on Tuesday (Sep 5th). Entered the club just before 7 pm. Paid 300 reals entrance which is all consumable. The garden area back of the building was open and mostly full when I got there. I was surprised to see lot of girls and man that early. I think there were more than 150 girls by 10 pm and that is the most I have seen for a Tuesday. I ate some food, enjoyed couple of drinks, talked to few girls and left without sessioning.
Casarao:
Visited 5 of the 7 days I was in SP. Club was packed during every one of my visits with lots of good looking girls to pick. Sampled 8 young girls, none of them were amazing but they all performed well. Here are the ones I remember:
Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.
Precilla a 23 yo blonde.
Bia a 20 yo.
Thalia a 23 yo 170 cm tall very cute girl.
Camily a 19 yo 175 cm tall pretty girl (German parents).
Marcela a 20 yo cute girl.[/QUOTE]The clinicas in Rio seemed either high end like Prism who said you can have a mechanical finish. Yeah right or the low end. Too slutty for me. Sorry I missed you. Airbnb slowed me down. Was sick.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856203]On my return to Sao, Wednesday. I planned to visit all high end clinicas. First I went to visit an online Club Model girl (was a bad experience. Nothing like the photos, FAT yuk. Lived downtown in tweaker / high crime neighborhood) I was worried I would not make it out alive. The only dangerous place I passed through. Actually locked inside triple locked security doors at the building with hookers, druggies, transistors, all that crap. Finally someone let me out and an Uber rescued me and I was off to Scandallo to change the vibe!
[/QUOTE]Don, I was actually looking forward to your report. It seems like you had been planning this trip for a long time, and had been gathering information, asking a ton of questions on the board. So, I thought you were well prepared and would have an amazing trip. However, the report is a bit disappointing, especially the Rio part. I'm not quite sure why you skipped all the fun with girls in Rio. Yes, Rio is an amazing city and there is a lot of things a tourist can do, but damn, every night you could easily smash a girl or two. How could you skip 4 x4, Solarium, etc? Never used Seeking to go on dates? I actually thought you were a Seeking guy and prefer to go on dates rather than have a quickie at a spa or a brothel. Again, not quite sure why skipped Seeking entirely. Same thing in Sao Paulo, the city has so many nice restaurants to go with a nice company, but for some reason you preferred to stick to daytime clinicas, most of which I haven't even heard of. I'm glad you did Scandallo, but there are other boates to pick girls at. My understanding was part of your initial plan was to bring a girl from SP to Rio, so that you could have a company and do all the touristy stuff together, it sucks the plan didn't work out. Anyways, thanks for the report, I hope next time will be much better!
Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.
Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856403]Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Good choices. Next trip will be even better. Enjoy!!
[QUOTE=Kopolau6366;2856364]Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.gp-guia.net/viewforum.php?f=8[/URL] for list of clinicas. Oral and vaginal sex is included in all sessions.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856403]Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Third pick is fire! Good series of reports of your SP and Rio experience.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856403]Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.[/QUOTE]I am going to stay for one night in SP and booked Hilton Sao Pualo Morumbi and your TR spas are bit far from this location and not sure if its worth to visit or not.
We are coming to SP around 6 pm and leaving next day afternoon to Bogota. Hence only option is to visit Scandallo in the night.
May be if there are any Clinica or Massage parlour in this area before checking out.
As GRU seems to be taking more than 1+ hour in uber.
P.S.: you inbox is full I guess. Responded back to you PM but its not deleting unless you clear some of the messages.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856403]There is more to life then just the girls.[/QUOTE]Um er. You mean like women, ladies, chicas, babes, and garotas? Because yeah. Those also. 😜.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2856531]Um er. You mean like women, ladies, chicas, babes, and garotas? Because yeah. Those also. 😜.[/QUOTE]It makes for a nice enhancement. I found a couple girls willing. Time was an issue so I saw Rio 4 days scouting. Great trip and I will be back.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2780310]We know you have tried the 150 but the good one seems to be the exception. Did you try clubmodel to come to the same conclusion? I am going to say it based on my personal experience. The odds will be better if money is not an issue.[/QUOTE]Back after a long hiatus. (If you click the quote you find this about 89 pages in the past, and it was just a few months!
Just to say that with the PhotoAcompanhantes there really are gems to be found. For 150 reais and hour and 800 pernoite off the bat, and the best GFE you can want. You just have to find her and I know there are many, you just have to find them. The one who clicks with you anyway. I was on a hiatus because I was allowing myself to be foolish trying to pull one of them out there. She was a widow with 4 little kids, who I got to know and liked. So, I figured, I would just risk it. It didn't work out, because she was just so messed up, really dumb, unable to lead herself. Blew it all up with a big lie and betrayal and then evicted herself, through a grandiose rebound tour only to end up on the same miserable job again. I can say I probably spoiled a very good regular provider for me by offering her more and getting too much emotionally involved, so now I have a bitter emotional after taste when she walks out the door after we're done.
I learned even more about the non-glamour of this business. The deal with that girl was that her hour cost 150. That's pretty cheap. And funny enough, that price went down! First time I was with her she was 180. Then suddenly they lowered the price. You can see, there is competition. She has a quota of 5 hours per day that she should meet. A 5 days a week and it's basically 24 hours on the job. Nominally they finish at 1 am and start at 11. But when called out on pernoite or called out even at 1 am, they have to go. One night she tried to call me at 4 am being stuck at some client's place who was done with her but the pimps were already sleeping and she had no 99 taxi credits left. No, I did not help her, I was fucking pissed! You chose your pimps over me, you deal with the bullshit you created for yourself!
Anyway, so on essentially a 24 hour job (nominally 15 hours per day) she makes 4000 per month, guaranteed, that amounts to about 1 minimum salary if you take it by the amount of time wasted in her life. Anything above the quota of 5 hours per day goes to her only. While she is too stupid to understand how much exploitation that is, and she thinks she can make that extra, the reality is that many a day she doesn't even get the 5 hours per day in, and then that has to be made up in the next days. Now think about how much that pimp couple makes off the back of just hat girl: 18000 per month! Of those 18000 she gets 4000, that's 22% while they take away 78%. Nice exploitation if you ask me. But not if you ask her. She apparently prefers this over slacking the days off under my roof.
Anyway, she gave me a real GFE on the first time, with which she lured me like a fish. She gave me her personal number and let me think that this special moment was special and she didn't do that with just anyone. Later on I came to doubt that, when I got wind from the way she talked that she probably treats almost everyone like that. I wonder if it is just her way to do the job. And if I wasn't still emotionally involved and not angry enough about her I would send you all to her on the promise that I get a detailed report on her performance. Since our break-up, I was back with her several times, ultimately it was a satisfaction to not have the burden of taking care of her any more and just fuck her for cheap. Should have done that from the start. But I still got the GFE treatment, and did her bare back except when it was her fertile days.
This girl is a brat that is intellectually challenged. She doesn't manage her life, doesn't take care of herself or just doesn't care. Like that bare back thing, if I didn't keep track of her calendar and wasn't good with that, I would have impregnated her several times. In fact that was why after the initial break-up I didn't completely evict her from my life -- I feared I had impregnated her on the DIA dos namorados. If I was more angry at her, I'd send you all there to try to do her bare back just to see if she really allows pretty much anyone to do that.
But I am not angry enough. I am fucking emotionally still caring about her. Her inability to take care of herself just makes me want to take care of her. But she is such a dangerous brat, she would just do some stupid betrayal shit and lie to me again. The way she kept lying after I had discovered her lies.
Anyway, this wasn't really the point, my point was that in the PhotoAcompanhantes there are a lot of real girls. You just have to find them and then they have to click with you. Once you have one who is good with you, all you need to do is come back. I mean, I could still always come back to her, but I hurt myself every time on the bitter emotional aftertaste.
Now I am in SP again. Fucking cold and caught a cold. I have finally finally met a chick which I was trying to get for years and she had always bailed out. Finally I met her with not enough time, but we hit it off well, to my surprise. I thought why I didn't get her before was because she just doesn't like older dudes. This happens. But no, we hit it off splendid. Really cute girl and so naughty. She too was first announced on PhotoAcompanhantes. Just to stick with the theme.
Giovanna Paes also got her off PhotoAccompanhantes first time, and she was great. I went back to her several times and we did some kinky stuff even filmed some scenes for her OnlyFans thing. Sadly that girl lost both her kidneys to the Coof Fucksine bullshit.
Here is another story about a PhotoAccompanhante girl. Supposedly a fresh 18 year old. Yeah, you know how that goes. Like my ho GF and now ho again was announced as 18 years old, (now 19) but she just turned 25. But then she is tight for being a mother of 4, which all together is why I found her really worth the initial risk. Anyway, this 18 year old I contacted her and came right out the barn with doubt that she was probably a fraud. But then the way she replied was almost guaranteed that she was real. She got upset about me doubting her reality and blocked me. This to me was a sign that she was real. These fraud agencies never do that. They always reply with "estou disponivel" and "sou completinha" no matter what your say or ask. So that one is probably real and if I can get my fucking cold cured still in this shitty weather, then I will do her still before I leave into the hinterlands. Need a break from RJ and SP.
There are a few more good ones I had found on PhotoAccompanhantes. The key is either to get an actual independent or to get a good pimp operation like the ones that my ex-GF prefers to be exploited by. These pimps, while I hate their guts (really just because she chose them over me), they are actually pretty good with the wares. They have a rotation of gems. It's just I can't be more specific. But the point is, when you have a decent operation, then things can be good. Like that one place in Butantã I reported on back then, that too I found on PhotoAccompanhante
So PhotoAcompnanhantes is not bad by itself and the expensive sites aren't really a guarantee for anything better. If anything, these other sites are so crazy expensive that they just drive up the price. BarraVips for example charges 850 reais for a fucking week! Photoaccompanhantes charge 80 per 14 days I think. And if they are photo verified and some can choose to publish the verification video, then you do get to see that they are real.
[QUOTE=Kopolau6366;2856364]Hello, I am currently in Sao Paulo and I would like to visit a clinic where they could give me oral sex and why not more. (if this is possible of course).
I await your advice, thanks.[/QUOTE]You probably found everyone saying that Tangara in Moema is the place to go.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856203]Visited The Palms and Lotus again. A manger friend of the owner at Palms was interested in my art and thought I should talk to the owner who is from England. (not enough time this trip) All these places tell you about the massage options and I just laugh and say, "I did not travel 10,000 miles to get a massage. I am looking for intimacy" They do not feel like meet markets. They all charge 750 brl. For full service (very cute girls, some were terrific to be with) it's worth it. I did not tip.[/QUOTE]Call me cheap, but I would never pay 750 bucks for an hour except if there is something very very special like a full blown kinky where I get to tie her up and spank her hard or something. There are some chicks I contacted from Twitter who seem like high classy, but just for looks I doubt it is worth it because there are so many pretty ones for 150 reais! One of the Twitter girls quoted for 600 for 3 hours, that's something I would risk.
[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2856403]Only took 4 years to figure out. Miamiboy thanks for the instruction on photos. There is more to life then just the girls. Although next time I will have company and go to Buzios etc. With them. thats why I got numbers for the hot ones who spoke English. here's 2 of them. I am not posting some photos on purpose. still having problems but Enjoy.[/QUOTE]So who is that brunette here? This is one of those who I might pay 500 an hour or 600 for two or 3 IF I knew she did everything I want.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2856145]On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra?[/QUOTE]It's common. I never really get this, but it is easier to get a BBBJ than good kissing. I don't know what your base rate was, but generally in these places the standard rate doesn't include kissing or BBBJ or anal. But it is a fairly simple negotiation process.
Why she didn't show up on the roster again? I am 50% certain she was fired because of your complaint. There is actually a pretty hefty over-supply and those that depend on this income often take pretty shitty deals and these pimps who have standards will be demanding and do not tolerate girls who make too much of a fuzz.
[QUOTE]Julia a 19 yo cute girl with braces.[/QUOTE]
Those are cute, I die for them every time. The cutie naughty girl I meet in a couple of days has braces too. I love picking girls with braces. So cute.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2856145] Prime: I always had good luck at this clinica and it is no different this time except one small incident.
On Sep 3 I went there and picked Karina, a 25 yo spinner. I tried to star the activities leaning over to kiss her. She said she doesn't kiss. I was disappointed but I was going to continue the session but she said she would kiss if I pay 50 reals. That pissed me off. Its not about the money which is just 10 bucks but I wondered what if she charges for other activities that are part of standard service. I asked if she would be ok if I end the session so I could pick another girl. She said ok, I left the room and told the mamasan about what happened and that I would pay whatever is owed. She didn't take any money. I never saw Karina on the roster that whole week I was there.
Has anyone encountered similar situation? Should I have continued the session with or without paying the extra? [/QUOTE]Hey Lalabo, "she doesn't kiss" has never been a problem for me with Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world. But I did have a reluctant kisser one time in the form of a very pretty black MClass girl. No kissing is a huge cock block for me, as is CBJ's, so I was ready to abort the mission, the moment she turned away from my kiss, but she was smokin' hot, as good looking as her photos, so I wanted to fuck her, but I also wanted a good session too, so I offered her 50 BR extra for DFK. She said OK, of course, but she added a clause that the kissing would stop if I had bad breath. KKK. Needless to say, we never stopped making out the whole time and it turned out to be a pretty good session for 600 BR + 50. Afterwards, I stuck around her place for a while, and we smoked one of her joints and got high.
So, in this singular case, I think I did the right thing, and the proof is that everything worked out better than fine, but in theory and general practice, I agree with you and I have done the same thing in similar situations in a BKK oily massage parlor and a Jakarta bordello on the very rare occasion when a girl was not willing to perform at the minimal level. I just terminated the session before anything serious took place. I agree with Squid, the girl was probably canned. Too bad, but she will find employment in another clinica and maybe she learned an important lesson. Maybe. KKK.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2857232]Hey Lalabo, "she doesn't kiss" has never been a problem for me with Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world. ....[/QUOTE]It takes skill to do what you have accomplished. I looked at the numbers posted on GPG. These are the two commonly mentioned places with the worst ratios.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2857202]Call me cheap, but I would never pay 750 bucks for an hour ....[/QUOTE]It's maybe about half to the girls. You can look up the post to see the exact amount. That means you will pay far less if the girl see you outside. Overtime, it is not a bad deal when you average it out.
Tangara is not far from Moema. It is in Vila Mariana.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2857201]You probably found everyone saying that Tangara in Moema is the place to go.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2857282]Tangara is not far from Moema. It is in Vila Mariana.[/QUOTE]Clinica Tangara has a deep lineup. Nounce counted 37 after I missed 5 of them in my count. Kkkk.
Presentation of over 20 garotas is cool. It is a friendly spot on Sunday afternoon for BBQ and music in the basement. It is a quick Uber ride from Moema.
In my opinion, Tangara has two out of three receptionists who are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
There is a bar in the basement instead of waiting on the couches with other guys. My favorite rooms are on the first floor across from reception. I booked in advance a duplo session with two chicas from the wassap lineup and gp-gua reviews. Lily cooper is damn popular. Arriella the porno gal works well in duplos. The place seems packed with guys during popular times.
The guy cleaning the rooms does a terrible job better if they hire an older lady like in other places. I Return to SP in a couple of weeks.
The cleaning guy makes me laugh because he is like a Brazilian version of the Jimmy Walker character from the old American TV show Good Times. Dy-no-mite!
[QUOTE=Tochka;2857386]Clinica Tangara has a deep lineup. Nounce counted 37 after I missed 5 of them in my count. Kkkk.
Presentation of over 20 garotas is cool. It is a friendly spot on Sunday afternoon for BBQ and music in the basement. It is a quick Uber ride from Moema.
In my opinion, Tangara has two out of three receptionists who are good to deal with. The mature MILF receptionist wears black leather pants to show off her ass and the guy is solid.
There is a bar in the basement instead of waiting on the couches with other guys. My favorite rooms are on the first floor across from reception. I booked in advance a duplo session with two chicas from the wassap lineup and gp-gua reviews. Lily cooper is damn popular. Arriella the porno gal works well in duplos. The place seems packed with guys during popular times.
The guy cleaning the rooms does a terrible job better if they hire an older lady like in other places. I Return to SP in a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2857263]It takes skill to do what you have accomplished. I looked at the numbers posted on GPG. These are the two commonly mentioned places with the worst ratios.[/QUOTE]Wow, I can't believe these stats from GPG. For example, the one on Casarao & kissing or on Abboboro & oral sex & kissing is simply not my experience at these two venerable establishments, and I have been to both of these joints many, many times in recent years. KKK.
This is just another reason why I never bother to look at girly reviews on GPG. I don't care about any of that because, IMHO, hunting down this information a waste of my time and boring as all hell. I trust my own eyes and instincts instead. So, when I go to a boate or a clinica, I make more or less spontaneous decisions relying on how I feel about things as they develop, what is available, and a girl's interview / audition in a boate or the immediate vibe I get in clinica lineup.
So, what is your experience with SP girls? I will wager it is closer to my experiences than those dismal stats reported on GPG, but I could be wrong. Ha Ha. Keep rockin.
A. H.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2857205]It's common. I never really get this, but it is easier to get a BBBJ than good kissing. I don't know what your base rate was, but generally in these places the standard rate doesn't include kissing or BBBJ or anal. But it is a fairly simple negotiation process.
Why she didn't show up on the roster again? I am 50% certain she was fired because of your complaint. There is actually a pretty hefty over-supply and those that depend on this income often take pretty shitty deals and these pimps who have standards will be demanding and do not tolerate girls who make too much of a fuzz.
[/QUOTE]I have also noticed that girls more willing to do BBBJ than kissing. I agree with you that she was let go.
I know anal is not part of the standard service. I have paid extra for it many times, and on occasion it was part of std service. Based on my experience BBBJ and kissing is pretty much standard at clinicas. Of course, time to time you run into girls refusing to kiss or doing CBJ or charging extra for those services.
Prime and Maruna charge 200/ half hour and 270/ hour whereas Abbabora charges 330/ hour. Price is not at all an issue at these places and it wasn't the point of my post.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2857205]
Those are cute, I die for them every time. The cutie naughty girl I meet in a couple of days has braces too. I love picking girls with braces. So cute.[/QUOTE]I saw bunch of girls in Casarao with Braces. They only look good on some girls and Julia was one of them. She was the cutest of them all and petite with nice ass.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2857637]I have also noticed that girls more willing to do BBBJ than kissing.[/QUOTE]You see, because in the mind of a many prostitute (they've watched too many movies), kissing = love and affection while a BJ is just a straightforward sexual act without the emotion behind it. And them tutes? They don't love them tricks!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2857486]Wow, I can't believe these stats from GPG. For example, the one on Casarao & kissing or on Abboboro & oral sex & kissing is simply not my experience at these two venerable establishments, and I have been to both of these joints many, many times in recent years. KKK.....[/QUOTE]Those stats are quite accurate from my point of view. It is not like that I went based on review. The reason I read reviews on these places is because the service or offering are below standard so I try to figure out what is the reason.
I practically stayed next to Casarao for more than one month and went multiple times a week. I was wondering why the service was below standard so I started to read past posts on ISG. Then I found out XXL or someone else said you have to ask for BBBJ otherwise you probably won't get it. I posted about all these before as it happened. So I think GPG is reliable.
After a while, I basically saw more or less the same girls show up at Casarao. I thought some were attractive but it became stale. I had a couple of regulars from boate at the time that would came to my place so I didn't really care.
I have been to Abbobora many times before. I went to Abbobora about a month ago. The hottest girl won't do BBBJ so I settled for the second hottest. To me the GPG reviews matches my experiences. I kept hearing all these hot girls at Abbobora, but I never really saw those except maybe the first time I went a few years ago. They are a tad better on average and that makes no difference to me.
The main reason that I noticed those numbers is because another ISG member insisted that something like if a member is reporting getting CBJ in Brazil, that member is lying. And said something about using GPG. So I went to GPG and took the numbers to post it here to prove it either way. LOL.
My experience with SP girls has been good, my percentage is a little lower than yours. Now I always ask and that works out well. I don't need a resounding yes to take the girl. I know some girl may say no when asked but they may do it in the room if not asked. I want something that is not absolutely no.
I dug up this post.
[QUOTE=XXL;2710018] I can now safely say that if you don't agree oral without condom beforehand at Casarao 90% of chances are you'll get covered blow-job.[/QUOTE]
Nounce, what can I say? I am surprised to hear about your experiences with Casarao and Abboboro girls. I am at a loss to explain why your stats are so different from my own. But let's see, my last trip started in the middle of May and ran to the end of June 2023.
On this trip I went to Casarao 3 times around midnight & took home 3 different girls. No negotiations! Just a little friendly flirtation over a drink, with some kisses and rubs. Later in my room non-stop DFK and multiple BBBJ's with each girl. In Brazil, I almost always finish with covered vaginal sex unless the girl offers CIM, or we both agree to go bareback. On this trip I only barebacked Valerie. And this is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. They are too fucking reluctant to bareback! For example, my Valerie would not bareback me until our 8th or 9th time together which was 6 months after we first met in Scandallo on a previous trip.
I also visited Abboboro 5 times in May & June and sampled 5 different girls. These girls are not Scandallo quality and that is ok with me. I like afternoon diversity every so often to break things up. I DFK'd with all 5 Abboboro girls and as usual I enjoyed multiple BBBJ's with each girl each session. My last Abboboro girl of the trip was a blond around 25, who was a little bit past her prime but was still sexy. I imagine she was a genuine hottie when she was 18 or 19 and had her pick of the boys. KKK. Anyway, we clicked early on, and she gave me a very passionate GFE session. I think we both pretended a little, but it felt really good at the time. It ended when I came in her mouth.
So, I repeat; Brazilian girls give some of the best head in the world. Where else can you find the "kneeling blow job". I never heard of it before I came to Brazil. My 1st Brazilian girl turned me on to it and since that 1st time back in April 2021, I must have had 60 or 70 "kneeling blow jobs" (maybe more). Whos' counting? KKK. It is a great sex move! And another great sex technique Brazilian girls have to offer is the multiple BBBJ. They usually start with a "Kneeling BBBJ" by the bed or in the shower. Then a 2nd BJ back on the bed after drying off. And a 3rd one while changing sex positions or for the final act, CIM.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2857232]Brazilian girls and over all I consider Brazilian girls some of the best, most passionate kissers in the world.[/QUOTE]I agree your comment about Brazilian girls being some of the best and passionate kissers. That is my experience too. For Brazilian girls kissing means full on kissing which I love. No LFK, DFK or something in between bullshit.
I can occasionally settle for CBJ as long as good kissing is provided. I do make exceptions depending on how hot the girl is. I also try to convince super hot girls to provide services she is not willing to provide. Extra money usually does the trick.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2857725]You see, because in the mind of a many prostitute (they've watched too many movies), kissing = love and affection while a BJ is just a straightforward sexual act without the emotion behind it. And them tutes? They don't love them tricks![/QUOTE]LOL. That's the BS justification they usually provide for not kissing.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2857867]I was wondering why the service was below standard so I started to read past posts on ISG. Then I found out XXL or someone else said you have to ask for BBBJ otherwise you probably won't get it. I posted about all these before as it happened. So I think GPG is reliable.
[/QUOTE]If you don't negotiate upfront then lot of girls try to pull CBJ, no kissing etc. BS on you. It maybe more prevalent in Casarao but it can happen in any of the SP boetes including Scandallo. That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.
Of 4-5 clinicas I have visited, I only experienced CBJ BS at Abbobora, never at Prime or Maruna.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2857927]LOL. That's the BS justification they usually provide for not kissing.[/QUOTE]Some people, both men and women, are legitimately concerned about germs and getting sick. I happen to be one of those people. You see, after my very first trip to Brazil way back when, I got so sick from kissing an all those pretty branca and morena hoors down there! Missed a full week of work recovering, including from a sore throat. But luckily, I had the solution for all future trips, which was to gargle frequently with Listerine. I started doing that and never got sick from kissing again. It's a nice tip I picked up right here on ISG. So mongers don't forget to pack your Listerine then slobber away!
I've been anti-Abbobora since the time a girl told me she expected extra money for a second pop. I did not insist. It was the last time I went to Abbobora. I think I could have gotten my way if I made an issue of it because, after all, they charge 330 BRL / hour. At this stage of the game I just can't be bothered; there are too many other options.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2857931]If you don't negotiate upfront then lot of girls try to pull CBJ, no kissing etc. BS on you. It maybe more prevalent in Casarao but it can happen in any of the SP boetes including Scandallo. That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.
Of 4-5 clinicas I have visited, I only experienced CBJ BS at Abbobora, never at Prime or Maruna.[/QUOTE]
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies by hanging around Tangara and Yakin in Vila Mariana and only occasionally going "upmarket" in Moema. The last time I was in town I was pleasantly surprised by the recently opened Clinica Zeus (they presumptively call themselves Zeus Prive). I think they have the right to the Prive claim because most of the space is in fact bar, lounge and reception with only 4 small rooms upstairs. It's just down the street from Yankin at Doutor Jose Queiroz Aranha 214. I stumbled on it when I was scrolling gp-guide before my last trip. The reviews were promising but I didn't have my hopes up very high. I decided to pull the trigger when the girl I wanted to see at Yankin didn't show up for work that day. Probably because they only opened last summer the public and session areas are noticeably nicer than Yankin or Tangara. They are on par with mid range Moema places like Red Massegems and Miruna 644. Rooms have TVs, not that I would ever turn one on. There is a comfortable lounge area with booths where I cheapskate like me can pretend he is in Scandallo or Casarao LOL! The small bar is comfortable and well stocked. The prices relative to the girl quality is highly competitive. I rate the girls on par with the 140 BRL-30 min /190 BRL-60 min staff at Tangara and Yankin, but the price is 100 BRL-30 min /180 BRL 60 min. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.
Hello fellow mongers,
Yes, it is time for me to visit SP again. I always like to have a wing man while mongering in SP. Let me know if someone want to tag along. I am fairly familiar with mongering biz in SP since it's my 6th trip in last 2. 5 years. I just turn 40 (yay) and easy going.
I will be landing to SP on Oct 10th Tuesday evening and will be there until 20th. You can DM me and we can coordinate.
Cheers and Happy mongering.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2857984]Some people, both men and women, are legitimately concerned about germs and getting sick. I happen to be one of those people. You see, after my very first trip to Brazil way back when, I got so sick from kissing an all those pretty branca and morena hoors down there! Missed a full week of work recovering, including from a sore throat. But luckily, I had the solution for all future trips, which was to gargle frequently with Listerine. I started doing that and never got sick from kissing again. It's a nice tip I picked up right here on ISG. So mongers don't forget to pack your Listerine then slobber away![/QUOTE]Very good advice on using Listerine, one of the essentials for our hobby. Like you I used to get sick (cold & cough) but that stopped ever since I started using Listerine after ever session.
Also I kiss only if the girl has good oral hygiene, otherwise I focus on other activities.
Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2857931]... That is why I try to find out beforehand if the girl provides the services I am interested in to reduce surprises in the room.....[/QUOTE]Agreed. The first girl I talked to yesterday told me she charges extra cash (caixinha) for it. I asked how much, she said 100. I said no thank you. Told the manager to ask another one out, ask the same question, she said yes. I like it much better this way. I think the first girl took a gamble. In this case, she lost. Usually in my experience, it is new girls that will want to charge extra.
If I really want the girl, then I won't ask, and I am fine she does not do it in the room. A few weeks ago, the girl told me these are fetishes. She charges 100 to 150 for fetishes.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2858132]Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.[/QUOTE]I don't usually do it. But I did it once because the girl was new and so aroused so I did it. I got sore throat for about 1 week, spent more than are $ 1000 to see a private doctor and did test.
[QUOTE=Rextor;2858132]Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.[/QUOTE]I eat pussy. And if she really turns me on? I'll eat that ass! Thus, a heightened need for the Listerine.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2857905]Nounce, what can I say? I am surprised to hear about your experiences with Casarao and Abboboro girls. ....[/QUOTE]My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOL
[QUOTE=Nounce;2858149]My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOL[/QUOTE]My decline percentages at various boates is very low. But yes, I have politely ended various conversations and declined to ask a boate girl out for various reasons on a limited number of occasions. My two main reasons, among many, for declining to ask a boate girl out is 1. The girl's poor audition performance and / or 2. A failure to agree on price.
On my last trip I did not reject any Casarao girls, but I did end the conversation with a Cafe Photo girl when she started getting ridiculous near the end of the audition. We were getting along good and had agreed on price, but at the last moment, she asked me to buy her dinner before we left the club. Now, eating before boom boom is a no go with me because a full stomach slows me down in bed. So I said, not now, we can have dinner afterwards, maybe. But the girl went on to say she was very hungry and began to insist on being fed. It was crazy. So after the my 3rd "not now, I am not hungry" I said, "You know what? I think you should go have your dinner now and maybe we will see each other another time. " She sat there for a little while pondering over what I had said. KKK. Then realizing that the gig was up, she asked if I wanted her to leave my table and I said YES! She seemed genuinely surprised by this turn of events, but she quickly accepted the situation and politely left my table. I wondered around the bar and found a slender blond just to my liking in the outdoor patio area. We had a nice little conversation, so I took her back to my hotel, we thumb wrestled and made out in the taxi, and back at the ranch we had a great fuck!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2858149]My question to you is did you reject anyone at Casarao? Did you have 100% success rate with 0 rejection before taking them to the room? About blow job, there is another world out there. LOL[/QUOTE]Just a small note of clarification: I reject most of the boate + terma girls who come up & hit on me. They are usually the less attractive girls in the club IMHO, and I do get a fair amount of that kind of attention in places like Scandallo, for example, although it does not happen enough to turn me off to the place. I am also sometimes forced to "reject" boate girls whom I have had previous good times with. I don't like doing this, but you know, I can't have repeat relationships with every nice girl that I have been with. So, on my last trip I passed on (I don't like using the word "reject" in this context) 3 really nice tier 2 Scandallo girls and 1 Bomboa girl that I previously had great sessions with. Maybe I will hook up with a couple of them on my next trip.
But getting back my individual audition percentages on Boate girls: The bottom line is my stats are very high with Brazilian Boate and Terma girls. I. E. Most Brazilian girls I ask over pass their audition with flying colors. Only a few girls fuck it up like that Cafe Photo girl I just posted about. I credit these really good stats to the high quality of Brazilian girls. Believe me, my percentages of successful auditions leading to boom boom are lower in BKK, Pat, and even Makati (pre-covid).
Again, I am not talking about my success rate in bed with Brazilian girls. That stat is very high! Which is the main reason I have not returned to East Asia post-covid. I am now talking about the percentage number of Boate girls and Terma girls who pass my auditions and as a result I take upstairs. The answer is most of my Brazilian boate girls pass my auditions with flying colors and subsequently perform good to great in bed.
If or when my Brazilian stats change for the worse, I will be on the first plane back to Swampy.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2858145]I eat pussy. And if she really turns me on? I'll eat that ass! Thus, a heightened need for the Listerine.[/QUOTE]Hey, I am a pussy lover too. KKK. I love to eat pussy! But there are 2 general rules or choices, of which I am sure you are aware, that I personally follow very closely:
1) a girl's hygiene must be impeccable. Her face, her breath must be very good. No skin problems, sores, or lesions anywhere. And her pussy must be super clean, smell fresh, and taste great.
2) The source: I take into account where I found the girl. For example. I generally don't go down on SW's no matter how attractive or hygienic the SW might be. Thus, I am far, far more likely to go down on a Scandallo or Bomboa girl than a Casarao girl and in general far more likely to go down on a boate girl than a clinica girl all else being equal. Yeah, I know, some Scandallo girls go to Casarao occasionally and I realize my filtering process is not 100% scientific. KKK. But I am saying that these are the factors I take into account when deciding whether I shall go down a girl or play it safe and it hasn't failed me yet.
Of course, there always going to be times when some pretty little waif really turns me on, and I wind up breaking my own rules. KKK. But that is part of the fun with this sport.
Listerine: I use it every day as an important part of my personal hygiene regimen. When I am on a punting trip, I use Listerine multiple times a day and night. KKK. But Listerine only works on small non threating problems. For example, it won't improve your breath if you have gingivitis. And it won't prevent an STI from DATY exposure if you are unlucky enough to catch one!
[QUOTE=Rextor;2858132]Speaking of germs. How many of yall go down on the girls? Does it vary by source (boate vs clinica)? Maybe get a better service / build conning, but also seems risky.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this hobby is a risky business. Only way to avoid it is not partake. I dine as long as V&O and surrounding area looks healthy, clean without any unpleasant odors. Statistically I skipped kissing&dining more in clinicas & termas than in boetes. Do you kiss / dine or not? If you are worried about germs then I assume you avoid all fluid exchanges meaning no kissing & dining.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2858251]Just a small note of clarification: I reject most of the boate + terma girls who come up & hit on me. They are usually the less attractive girls in the club IMHO, and I do get a fair amount of that kind of attention in places like Scandallo, for example, although it does not happen enough to turn me off to the place. [/QUOTE]My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2858598] I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?[/QUOTE]On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. Scandallo tier 1 model quality girls or girls that think they are model quality (kkk) will ask up to R2000 for an in-house session. On previous trips the most I ever gave a Scandallo tier 1 "model" was R1200. Her original ask was R2000. She was definitely worth the R1200! And we hooked up 2 more times on that trip at my hotel.
At Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP, the sample is a little different. I have been going to Bomboa since Nov 2021 and I have seen only a handful of tier 1 quality girls in Bomboa, but they do have a nice selection of tier 2's. As a result of this skewed supply situation, I have never experienced a Bomboa girl initially asking for more than R1000 and ALL of my Bomboa girls from my last couple of trips readily agreed to my (R600 to R800) counter proposal.
The best way I know to extend one's buying power in SP is to mix things up a little and include a few clinicas in your itinerary. This will drive your average cost per girl way down and will still give you some great nights at Scandallo or Bomboa.
Type "scandallo" into the search field in the upper right hand corner of this page. All the latest pricing and other information will appear.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2858598]My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2858598]My experience in Brazil has always been similar. Of the 150+ women who have approached me unsolicited at the clubs, I've only had one actually convince me to go upstairs. As you pointed out they're often less attractive, but in addition to that they typically have an attitude I find offputting.
I'm contemplating catching a flight down to Sao Paulo, and I'm wondering if anyone can speak to current pricing at Scandallo. I've typically held fast to my R800 price and had success with it despite whatever crazy numbers girls ask for, but on my last trip I actually had a girl walk. I also had another who took it but felt close to walking. For anyone who is on the ground or has been very recently, what kind of prices are you seeing?[/QUOTE]They starts at 1500. So I was with a couple of friends last week, and they knew a couple of girls that work at Solarium Terma in Rio and was at Scandallo that night. They told me to go up to them and ask the price because 1 of the girl speak English and because they might know them already from Solarium. Anyway, I went up and chat for about 10-15 minute, and then by the end I asked her how much does she charge. She said 1500. LOL. I didn't counter, I just want to get a quote and she wasn't great looking, body is decent, but face is okay at best.
A couple of other girls came by the table and they chat with them and got a quote, same thing. One of my friend's regular saw him, and they chat and made a deal early and she always charges him same thing 600 r. The deal was if she can't get anyone by 10 pm, they'll go up for that price. So by 1015, she couldn't get anyone to bite, they met again and went up.
Your 800 r probably still good there.
Life is short, go all in for Scandallo. Time spent at clinicas is time missed with the creme de la creme.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2858723]On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. Scandallo tier 1 model quality girls or girls that think they are model quality (kkk) will ask up to R2000 for an in-house session. On previous trips the most I ever gave a Scandallo tier 1 "model" was R1200. Her original ask was R2000. She was definitely worth the R1200! And we hooked up 2 more times on that trip at my hotel.
At Bomboa, my 2nd favorite boate in SP, the sample is a little different. I have been going to Bomboa since Nov 2021 and I have seen only a handful of tier 1 quality girls in Bomboa, but they do have a nice selection of tier 2's. As a result of this skewed supply situation, I have never experienced a Bomboa girl initially asking for more than R1000 and ALL of my Bomboa girls from my last couple of trips readily agreed to my (R600 to R800) counter proposal.
The best way I know to extend one's buying power in SP is to mix things up a little and include a few clinicas in your itinerary. This will drive your average cost per girl way down and will still give you some great nights at Scandallo or Bomboa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2858723]On my May / June, SP 2023 visit I never gave a Scandallo girl more than R900. But that is due to my preferred sweet spot at Scandallo being sexy, cute, all natural, tier 2, girl next door types, and these girls will gladly accept a counter offer between R600 to R900. [/QUOTE]Yeah that tends to be my demographic as well, partly because they have the best attitudes and also because I find some of the more conservatively dressed girls have amazing bodies. The handful of times I've gone for the model types and paid a bit extra it never felt worth it. Still good experiences, just not anything special by Brazilian standards. End of July was when I was there last, and when one girl turned down R800.
On a related note I also had a Casarao girl ask for R700 and hold firm to it, but she was gorgeous and frankly I still regret walking away from that.
My trips have been getting longer so I've done more clinica and Casarao visits which I definitely enjoy, but Scandallo is always the main draw. If I ever get priced out of there I'd likely try some of the smaller southern cities.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2858822]Yeah that tends to be my demographic as well, partly because they have the best attitudes and also because I find some of the more conservatively dressed girls have amazing bodies. The handful of times I've gone for the model types and paid a bit extra it never felt worth it. Still good experiences, just not anything special by Brazilian standards. End of July was when I was there last, and when one girl turned down R800.
On a related note I also had a Casarao girl ask for R700 and hold firm to it, but she was gorgeous and frankly I still regret walking away from that.
My trips have been getting longer so I've done more clinica and Casarao visits which I definitely enjoy, but Scandallo is always the main draw. If I ever get priced out of there I'd likely try some of the smaller southern cities.[/QUOTE]I think you should be good. I was there in March and I think all the pussy inflation happened before then and stuff should be about the same. My girl asked 1000 and I didn't beat her down. Prob woulda taken 800. When I came back my buddy was seriously making out with a nice spinner on the floor. He doesn't speak Porto so I did the negotiation. Which was brief! I offer 700 and she said fine! She was a hot one but I think she liked him. Seems like 800 should get it done.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2858808]Life is short, go all in for Scandallo. Time spent at clinicas is time missed with the creme de la creme.[/QUOTE]I agree. The BOATES are #1 in SP, but I still like to mix it up a little when I am in town.
I have had SP trips when I hung out exclusively at clinicas or with Mclass call girls. My resulting April 2021 1st trip is one I will never forget because it took place during the covid lockdown. Man, was I glad the clinicas had somehow been able to remain open!
I have also had SP trips when I only did boates & boate girls, and lastly I have had trips that included various mixes of boates & clinicas (high and low). So, based on all that I have found that a mix of boates & a few of the better clinicas works best for me, but my 2nd favorite preference is an all boate catered affair. KKK. And my 3rd favorite SP preference is an all clinica affair. My point being you really can't go wrong in this town. Just choose your poison ie where you want to go, who you want to shag, how much you want to spend, and have a blast.
Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?
You have to establish a gp-guia account and submit the review on the web site. You can draft your review in the language of your choice then translate it to Portuguese. Remember to follow the prescribed format that you see on gp-guia. The discount might not be worth the time it takes to write and submit the review. You have to be the judge of that.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859505]Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859505]Anyone know how to write a review for a clinica and get a discount?[/QUOTE]It does not have to do with anything meaningful. You can actually copy from other reviews.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2859064]I agree. The BOATES are #1 in SP, but I still like to mix it up a little when I am in town.
I have had SP trips when I hung out exclusively at clinicas or with Mclass call girls. My resulting April 2021 1st trip is one I will never forget because it took place during the covid lockdown. Man, was I glad the clinicas had somehow been able to remain open!
I have also had SP trips when I only did boates & boate girls, and lastly I have had trips that included various mixes of boates & clinicas (high and low). So, based on all that I have found that a mix of boates & a few of the better clinicas works best for me, but my 2nd favorite preference is an all boate catered affair. KKK. And my 3rd favorite SP preference is an all clinica affair. My point being you really can't go wrong in this town. Just choose your poison ie where you want to go, who you want to shag, how much you want to spend, and have a blast.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this, really excited to make my first trip to Brazil in November!
So far, been to: Tijuana, MDE, PI, CZ. Hoping to have some neurons firing in Brazil. However, CZ (show park) and MDE (Isla, ease of mobile hook ups) seem tough to beat.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2859524]You have to establish a gp-guia account and submit the review on the web site. You can draft your review in the language of your choice then translate it to Portuguese. Remember to follow the prescribed format that you see on gp-guia. The discount might not be worth the time it takes to write and submit the review. You have to be the judge of that.[/QUOTE]How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859718]How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?[/QUOTE]The discount usually is that you get an hour for the 30 minute rate, which works out to be around a 25% discount.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859718]How much discount are we talking about? Say R250 per hour normally, and with discount? Do I tell the reception if I have written reviews?[/QUOTE]You can tell them your user name. They will look it up on GPG. This discount will expire so you have to keep on writing review but it depends on the receptionist.
The answer to the GPG registration question used to be avião.
Today is holiday. Almost everything is shutdown.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2859749]You can tell them your user name. They will look it up on GPG. This discount will expire so you have to keep on writing review but it depends on the receptionist.
The answer to the GPG registration question used to be avio.
Today is holiday. Almost everything is shutdown.[/QUOTE]Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859790]Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?[/QUOTE]I was wondering about it too but I decided not to ask. I have never felt the girl is unhappy about it.
The problem is now certain receptionist made this a very unpleasant experience that I have reported about 8 weeks ago.
I think I made a mistake about half hour rate. I am not certain but I think it is 200.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2859790]Who earns less in this case? The house or the girl? Would the girl be a little upset if she ends up make a little less?[/QUOTE]I doubt that a girl would agree to a reduced fee since it is the climica that is giving the promo and getting the publicity.
I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2860062]I was wondering about it too but I decided not to ask. I have never felt the girl is unhappy about it.
The problem is now certain receptionist made this a very unpleasant experience that I have reported about 8 weeks ago.
I think I made a mistake about half hour rate. I am not certain but I think it is 200.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2860085]I doubt that a girl would agree to a reduced fee since it is the climica that is giving the promo and getting the publicity.[/QUOTE]As this is an ongoing discount, I think the clinicas would have the deal in place when a girl is hired to work so the girl would have agreed to it before the first service. It could be like what you think but It could also be as simple as a percentage. It's a sizeable discount if it is only taken from clinica's share.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2860287]As this is an ongoing discount, I think the clinicas would have the deal in place when a girl is hired to work so the girl would have agreed to it before the first service. It could be like what you think but It could also be as simple as a percentage. It's a sizeable discount if it is only taken from clinica's share.[/QUOTE]Since the girl is not there when the customer pays, she has no idea if he is paying the full rate or the gp-guia poster rate. It would be too easy for the clinica to lie and say everybody paid the discount rate, so I doubt the girls would accept this. Will ask the girl next time I do a session at one of these clinicas.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2860317]Since the girl is not there when the customer pays, she has no idea if he is paying the full rate or the gp-guia poster rate. It would be too easy for the clinica to lie and say everybody paid the discount rate, so I doubt the girls would accept this. Will ask the girl next time I do a session at one of these clinicas.[/QUOTE]That is true but the receptionist always writes down my user name on a piece of paper or they keep track of visit on a card.
What I am saying is that there is a difference in how this discount is presented to the girls. A girl would more likely to agree to it before she takes the job because it feels less like a pay cut.
If the clinica absorbs the entire discount, then it will need the business to double to break even which seems like gamble with bad odds.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2860062]I am not certain but I think it is 200.[/QUOTE]That is what I piad at Prime and Maruna a month ago.
2 few?'s. What % of USA travelers come to visit Clinicas, Boatas etc. Without reading or caring about info on ISG? Asking for a freind.
"I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other. ".
I tried sending you a PM can you free up space in your mailbox.
I cleared some space I think. Give it a try now. I didn't know I had so many messages.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2860730]"I'm not sure whether the girls have to take the discount out of their fee. My guess is that it's between the clinica and the punters. I don't know what difference it makes one way or the other. ".
I tried sending you a PM can you free up space in your mailbox.[/QUOTE]
Okay since everyone is talking about this I'll add in what I noticed after my recent trip. In order for you to get discounted price (forista discount), some clinics require that your first session in a while to be paid in full then the discount starts after for a set period. Here's below.
Prime: They seemed to be the nicest clinica as far as discount goes, only ask you for your username on the other forum. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Miruna: Discount only lasts for 2 months, 1st session outside of it is full price, just do half hour and then they write your username down and date your last session. (discount 200 r / HR, 160 r / hf).
Kin Center: Discount lasts for 1 month, same rule as Miruna. They also take picture of your previous post of the clinic. Payment upfront. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Enjoy Spa: Discount lasts 3 months (same as Miruna. (discounted 200 r / HR).
Chanes 57: There is discount, I didn't partake this time so I don't know how it works.
Any of you São Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?
[QUOTE=Combo;2861287]Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?[/QUOTE]This New Years Eve falls on a Sunday. I don't know if the boates will be open on Monday or not, but I would expect slim pickens' if they are open. Your best bet for a happy SP Christmas & New Years is to make arrangements to see your favorite girls at your place over the holidays. That's my plan anyway and I would not expect the boates to return to normal until January 4 or 5 (the 1st weekend after New years) at the earliest.
[QUOTE=Combo;2861287]Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?[/QUOTE]They are closed on 1/1. I am pretty sure Scandallo was closed this year. I am 95% sure Clinicas were also closed. I have answered this in one post as I was here during that time. The whole city is pretty dead. Many people go to the beach for vacation.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2861421]They are closed on 1/1. I am pretty sure Scandallo was closed this year. I am 95% sure Clinicas were also closed. I have answered this in one post as I was here during that time. The whole city is pretty dead. Many people go to the beach for vacation.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I figured that was the case. Will have to be a rest day. Or maybe call an escort.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2861239]Okay since everyone is talking about this I'll add in what I noticed after my recent trip. In order for you to get discounted price (forista discount), some clinics require that your first session in a while to be paid in full then the discount starts after for a set period. Here's below.
Prime: They seemed to be the nicest clinica as far as discount goes, only ask you for your username on the other forum. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Miruna: Discount only lasts for 2 months, 1st session outside of it is full price, just do half hour and then they write your username down and date your last session. (discount 200 r / HR, 160 r / hf).
Kin Center: Discount lasts for 1 month, same rule as Miruna. They also take picture of your previous post of the clinic. Payment upfront. (discounted 200 r / HR, no half).
Enjoy Spa: Discount lasts 3 months (same as Miruna. (discounted 200 r / HR).
Chanes 57: There is discount, I didn't partake this time so I don't know how it works.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification. Do you mean expect for Prime, you need to pay in full for one session and tell them your user name in order to receive discount onwards (with reviews written)?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2861445]Thanks for the clarification. Do you mean expect for Prime, you need to pay in full for one session and tell them your user name in order to receive discount onwards (with reviews written)?[/QUOTE]I think there is a typo in your post. It's all of them. There is no exception.
[QUOTE=Combo;2861435]Thanks. I figured that was the case. Will have to be a rest day. Or maybe call an escort.[/QUOTE]The boates are closed on NYE, as well.
Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?
Why are their no price mentioned for girls on top SP escort websites like clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55?
I checked all of them and none of the girls' profile have their hourly rate mentioned? What am I missing? Do you have to text them on WhatsApp and ask for their rate? Cause that way I feel depending on their mood and who they are talking to they can throw whatever ridiculous rate comes to their mind.
If there's something that I'm missing please advise me.
[QUOTE=OldJack;2861833]Why are their no price mentioned for girls on top SP escort websites like clubmodel, mclass, SPLove and private55?
I checked all of them and none of the girls' profile have their hourly rate mentioned? What am I missing? Do you have to text them on WhatsApp and ask for their rate? .[/QUOTE]Yes, ClubModel and MClass girls do not advertise their rates on line. The procedure is to What's UP the girls that interest you and start a conversation. They will get around to their asking price pretty soon thereafter although it usually takes an hour or longer to set something up. Generally, Club Model & MClass girls will accept offers in the 600 BR to 800 BR price range, but occasionally some super stars or girls who think they are super stars will not go lower than the 1000 BR to 1500 BR range.
I have had good times with MClass and Club Model girls in SP, and Barra VIP girls in RJ with some real fine girls. The photos are accurate although glossed up. The most I ever paid a Brazilian high end call girl was 800 BR. Sadly, one time I had to pass on a gorgeous Club Model girl because she would not come down from her 1500 BR original ask. Although it ends up costing more, I prefer going to the boates over staying in my hotel room waiting for an escort. It is more fun!
[QUOTE=Combo;2861287]Any of you So Paulo regulars know if Scandallo or any of the other clubs or even Clinicas will be open on New Year's Day?[/QUOTE]I met one of my new favorites at Caesars on New Years Day evening at Caesars last year. Don't know if this helps.
Spent a week in SP this October. This was my second trip to SP and it was amazing, even better than my first trip (you can check my posts to see the previous report).
[B]Saturday[/B]
Landed early morning and met up with my boy at the airport. Killed some time until check in to airbnb at 3 pm. Was super tired after the long flight from London but still wanted to session. Went to see Lidia who I saw last trip, in her hotel about 15 minutes uber from my airbnb. Big butt, big fake tits, long straght black hair, tattoos, very dark tan. She's not white but doesn't look black either, looks almost Indian. This was the worst session of the week, I didn't realise how tired I was and was struggling to stay hard the whole time. In hindsight I should have taken steps to make the room more comfortable. The lights were way too bright and she had loud rap music playing on a tv right next to the bed. To her credit she never stopped trying to keep me hard, gave me a decent massage and eventually after almost an hour I got my nut and bounced out of there. Felt pretty low after, not the best start to the trip! 300 BRL for 1 hour.
[B]Sunday[/B]
Sunday almost everything is closed. I tried messaging a few girls from last trip but couldn't get anything lined up. Finally a girl from Scandallo that I had met last trip called Emanuelle came through and arrived at my place around 10 pm. Very long straight black hair, no tattoos, dark tan, bimboish face, big fake lips, absolutely ridiculous ass, super wide hips, big legs, tiny waist and small boobs. This time she spoke quite a bit of English which surprised me. She didn't speak a word last trip 6 months ago. Anyway the session was decent but nothing spectacular, probably because I was still jetlagged. 500 BRL for 1 hour.
[B]Monday[/B]
Sessioned at my place with an online girl from photoaccompanhantes. Light skinned mulatta with fake boobs, big butt, pretty face, shoulder length curly hair with blonde highlights. Great session. 400 BRL 1 hour.
[B]Tuesday[/B]
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits I've ever seen (think Maserati XXX). Incredible. One of the best sessions of my life. Even just seeing her alone would make the trip to Brazil worth it imo. 500 BRL for 1 hour.
In the evening we went to Scandallo. Was very busy, tons of girls to choose from. Used the 300 BRL entry consumption in the restaurant as I usually do. Spotted an interesting looking girl, young redhead with tattoos, very short hair, nerdy looking but with a crazy fat sloppy ass in a tight dress. She told me she is 20 years old. Negotiated her down from 1500 to 600 for the hour. Did not disappoint in the room. That ass was insane, so fucking big and soft and 100% natural. Fucked the shit out of her then pulled out and came all over that ass. She sucked the rest out of my dick after.
[B]Wednesday[/B]
Casarao.
Was feeling satisfied after 2 amazing sessions yesterday so didn't do any sessions during the day.
Went to Bahamas club around 10 pm. 200 BRL entry not consumable. Wasn't that impressed by the quality of girls. I did like how they were wearing sluttier clothing, some in bikinis etc. But overall wouldn't recommend going here. Maybe if you go before 7 pm when the entry is consumable it might be worth it.
Went to Casarao around 12 am. Spotted a girl wearing black yoga pants, sitting down on the DJ platform who looked like she had a huge bunda. You know when you can see how big their ass is just from how their legs and hips are spreading out when they sit down? She had long straight black hair and was a little bit pale. Waited for her to stand up and her ass was as crazy as it looked. Fucking huge and it looked natural too. Walked over and started talking to her, felt the ass and confirmed it was natural. Negotiated 300 BRL for 30 minutes. Went to the room and fucked for 30 minutes straight. Best natural ass I've ever had.
[B]Thursday[/B]
Went to Scandallo in the evening but didn't session. It was super quiet, like 50% less than normal, due to it being a public holiday and also raining for most of the day. Advice to others: check if there are any holidays during your planned visit and avoid if at all possible.
[B]Friday[/B]
Had the same girl from Casarao over (the one with the huge ass) to my place. 500 BRL for one hour. BBFS. Had her put on some pink lingerie I brought on the tirp. Best session of my life. Fucked her all over the apartment in different positions. I'll never forget the sight of that ass bouncing on my dick.
[B]Saturday[/B]
Flew to Rio. Check out the Rio thread where I'll post the rest of my trip report.
[B]Closing thoughts:[/B]
Scandallo is still the best place for both quality and quantity of girls imo.
Casarao can have some amazing girls, definitely worth checking out, it's just a shame it peaks so late at night.
I specifically avoided the clinicas because on the last trip I didn't find much there that I liked. For most guys the clinicas are great quality and worth visiting but if you like bigger girls and prefer dark girls I think you can safely skip them without missing much.
I also avoided the boates I visited last time where I didn't find anything (bomboa etc.).
I didn't do that many sessions over the week I was there, but the quality of the sessions was extremely high, some of the best of my life. I think overall I still prefer Rio but SP is definitely worth visiting. Every man can find what he's looking for there.
I arrive in SP this week before traveling to Rio. Already scheduled duplo sessions with my favorite deep throat garotas in the clinicas at the forista rate. The evening and party nights scandalo, bomboa, and casaro late night. Is there a decent hourly Love Motel or Automotel not far from Moema, villa Mariana, and Jardim? I searched [URL]guiademoteis.com.br[/URL] for recommended hourly places to meet up with some new not vetted garotas.
My main place is Cozzy Suites, don't know how girl friendly these smart (ass) hotels are with guests. Anyhow the apthotel prices in. Moema were outrageously high this week for my regular spots.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2862223]My main place is Cozzy Suites, don't know how girl friendly [/QUOTE]Hey Tochka, when I was there back in April, they did not allow guests. Switched to Mercure.
F.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2862211]
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits I've ever seen (think Maserati XXX). Incredible. One of the best sessions of my life. Even just seeing her alone would make the trip to Brazil worth it imo. 500 BRL for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]This sounds amazing, do you mind sharing the details? I'll be in São Paulo soon.
[QUOTE=Foolish;2862386]Hey Tochka, when I was there back in April, they did not allow guests. Switched to Mercure.
F.[/QUOTE]Which Mercure??
Has anyone been to Casarao on Mondays or Tuesdays. Is it a totally dead?
I arrived in Sao paulo today, and I'll be here for a month, so I don't want to spend Scandallo money just yet.
I usually enjoy Casarao a lot when I go there. I just have never been this early in the week before.
I don't think a BRICS country like Brazil may fear any kind of attacks from other pro BRICS organizations.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2861744]Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Thor91;2862211]
Session at my place in the afternoon with a dark skinned black girl with the biggest natural tits ...
[/QUOTE]Where did you find the black girl with big tits -- I'm always on the lookout for one of those.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2862211]
In the evening we went to Scandallo. Negotiated her down from 1500 to 600 for the hour.
[/QUOTE]I got 1500 down to 1000 at Scandalo but never down to 600. Did you just offer 600 and she accepted?
I've read 60+ pages of SP forum to get myself a crash course on how to spend few days in SP.
I 've been using SA (seeking) in LatAM for past few years with overall good success, however I did not find noticeable input or reviews on SA experiences in SA (also looked at SA thread at ISG).
I am monitoring it for past few days and see usual 10-20 girls repeatedly being popped up / logged in. Is SA not widely used in Brazil? I started chat with few but I can tell that English speaking garotas are much less (say compare to CDMX).
Any insight / input appreciated! SA is just one possible vessel in scoping out girls there (it usually helps getting a non-pro for GND type encounter).
If nothing else, then Scandallo every night. LOL.
[QUOTE=Thor91;2862211]Spent a week in SP this October. This was my second trip to SP and it was amazing, even better than my first trip [/QUOTE]Good, detailed report. Look forward to your next SP trip report.
[QUOTE=MushElvii;2862516]I've read 60+ pages of SP forum to get myself a crash course on how to spend few days in SP.
I 've been using SA (seeking) in LatAM for past few years with overall good success, however I did not find noticeable input or reviews on SA experiences in SA (also looked at SA thread at ISG).
I am monitoring it for past few days and see usual 10-20 girls repeatedly being popped up / logged in. Is SA not widely used in Brazil? I started chat with few but I can tell that English speaking garotas are much less (say compare to CDMX).
Any insight / input appreciated! SA is just one possible vessel in scoping out girls there (it usually helps getting a non-pro for GND type encounter).
If nothing else, then Scandallo every night. LOL.[/QUOTE]So yeah the SA scene is def light in Brazil. But you can find a gem just like anywhere. Had an amazing girl in Rio. Full on 9. 5 all around. But my garota Porto isn't bad so that helps. Def Scandallo. But Casarao is worth your time as well. Not as glitzy a scene but tons of doable girls. Make sure to negotiate BBBJ up front. There is a a covered BJ disease spreading there. 😋.
It's a shame that there doesn't seem to be any similar venues to Casarao, in the same price range. I know about Connections but that seems to be quite far away from Avenida Paulista.
I searched GP GUIA for any alternatives and noticed Estacao Pinheiros Station and Kilt Shows, has anyone been to either of these?
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2861744]Anyone concerned about the worldwide caution travel advisory put out by the US Department of State? Or could it be mere due diligence due to recent global events?[/QUOTE]Saw this in the news today: "United States President Joe Biden abruptly ended his address on Monday as he was rushed to the Situation Room, with reports American military bases were coming under further attacks. ".
Waiting for more information.
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2862498]Where did you find the black girl with big tits -- I'm always on the lookout for one of those. [/QUOTE]Found her on private55/ photoaccomphantes / twitter. Her name is Isa Bombom. I highly recommend.
[QUOTE=NoBuglyFitches;2862498]
I got 1500 down to 1000 at Scandalo but never down to 600. Did you just offer 600 and she accepted?[/QUOTE]I just kept saying that it was too much, she dropped down to 1000 first, then 800 and finally 600 after some back and forth negotiating.
Where is GPGUIA's template? I'd like to follow the format, but where do I write the girl's name so it's in the green box, not just text in the paragraph? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2862584]But Casarao is worth your time as well. Not as glitzy a scene but tons of doable girls. Make sure to negotiate BBBJ up front. There is a a covered BJ disease spreading there. 😋.[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm glad I'm not the only one noticed. I found out this past trip too many girls wanted CBJ. I had to start ask about BBBJ upfront after 2 did CBJ in the room. I had to turn down a chic around 3 am bc she would only do CBJ.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2862928]Where is GPGUIA's template? I'd like to follow the format, but where do I write the girl's name so it's in the green box, not just text in the paragraph? Thanks.[/QUOTE] When you are on the page where you are posting your report, go to the Commentario section and click the arrow and then click if it was Neutro, Positivo, or Negativo to get the the section to input the following.
Selecione a garota.
Valor pago?
Tempo com a GP?
Minutos.
Garota fez oral sem preservativo?
Garota fez anal?
Garota beijou na boca?
De 0 a 10, qual nota voc daria para o atendimento?
If you don't, it will be just posted as a comment.
As far as I'm concerned that the template is one of the biggest benefits of gp-guia. You can scan quickly or search according to your interest and you never have to guess what the poster is trying to say.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2863081]When you are on the page where you are posting your report, go to the Commentario section and click the arrow and then click if it was Neutro, Positivo, or Negativo to get the the section to input the following.
Selecione a garota.
Valor pago?
Tempo com a GP?
Minutos.
Garota fez oral sem preservativo?
Garota fez anal?
Garota beijou na boca?
De 0 a 10, qual nota voc daria para o atendimento?
If you don't, it will be just posted as a comment.[/QUOTE]
This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Luísa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.
I am going to Rio after SP.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2863137]
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt. [/QUOTE]Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.
Funny; Nowak is now asking 2500 BR? Back maybe a year ago I turned her down when she was asking only 1500 BR on Clubmodel. KKK. My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use the high end escort services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I have did make plans to see someone I already know and like. So it is a rare event.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2863137]This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
4 Independent escorts pages like private55, clubmodel, For escorts is it common for these girls to ask for partial advance payment (for example Lusa Nowak was asking for 20% of 2500 Rs which is too much) using an app called PIX. Other girl also ask for it, tifany bittencourt.
I am going to Rio after SP.[/QUOTE]First, in Brazil you should never do an advance payment or deposit! All of the above options are good. Some depends on how many times you are good for. Do Clinicas in the afternoon, Scandallo or Casarao late evening. And enjoy!
On the subject of escorts I meant to write that "the only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know."
So here is the point I was trying to make:
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2863195] My advice is forgetabout the escort sites. Concentrate on the clinicas in the afternoon and the boates at night and you will not go wrong. Scandallo, for example, has many Nowak quality Tier 1 girls to choose from and it is a lot more fun to go out and find a girl. The only time I use these high end services is on Sundays or holidays when, for one reason or another, I didn't make plans to see someone I already know. So it is a rare event. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2854743]...My guess is it's simply a way to make more money...[/QUOTE]Thanks fro Alex's report, I have been going to these places exclusively and have enough sample to generalize it a bit.
I had good ones but also ones that I wasn't interested in fucking. Not that the girls are ugly, but they are not my type, or the body look too old. It's the good memory keeps me going back but I don't always get it. That is the sentiment I have, and why I think it is a gamble.
Take what I said as a grain of salt. Consider it as a piece of puzzle. My observation is the girls generally are older. I don't see any that is younger than 20 while 25 and above are common. I have picked 2 older girls and I regretted it both times. I wonder if the age is real. The girls are more refined then the regular clinica girls. The service generally is better on average. BBBJ is not a 100%, kissing is YMMV. Plastic is common. Coincidently, the best session I had was with the youngest, one of the prettier girls and with almost no restrictions on what we both agree on.
Since I said it is a gamble, assume the odds to have an above average session is a generous 50% based my experience. My odds at Scandallo is almost 100%. The clinica girl spends one hour with you. The Scandallo girl spends several hours with you. It makes Scandallo feel like a steal. LOL.
The clinica can have multiple types of room. If you only visit the clinica once, that room you have determine the impression you have of the place. If you happen to be in a big room, you think this clinica is better. If you are in a smaller room, then you think this place is overpriced because the room is the same as lower tier clinica. These are just different pieces of puzzle. The more pieces you have, the better picture you will get.
I am intentionally vague about the detail for my own reason. May share more in the future.
Also, most you can pay by credit card without additional charge but some places you have to give girl cash in the room (Palms, Lotus). Make sure you have 50 with you because the girl may not have change.
I think they also expect you to shower before the girl comes. It may take about 10 minutes for girl to arrive in the room so you really only have about 50 minutes. You can go ahead and take a shower once in the room. The girls wear uniform.
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Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69. 11 had larger rooms, but I saw far less SPs the two times I went there. No question, the first thing you feel like doing when you leave is take a shower. Though I didn't encounter wet spots or stains on the sheets, I don't imagine they change them more than once per day. I only choose those who return my smile with a sweet looking smile of their own, and I can say that all the sessions were enjoyable, I never felt the SP didn't want to be there, no matter how they really felt. I had read bad things about 69, that the SP's might rob you, so don't take anything you can't afford to lose. But I can't say that I felt anyone tried to pickpocket me or worse when I was there. The quality was overall a little less than 134, but you still had a good number of highly doable SPs. I never went there after 5, because it seems that it would be quite deserted after the local businesses closed. Anyway, if you enjoy sessions for less than the cost of movie ticket, you won't go wrong at either 134 or 69.
[QUOTE=Messiah69;2862466]Has anyone been to Casarao on Mondays or Tuesdays. Is it a totally dead?
I arrived in Sao paulo today, and I'll be here for a month, so I don't want to spend Scandallo money just yet.
I usually enjoy Casarao a lot when I go there. I just have never been this early in the week before.[/QUOTE]I have been to Casarao every day of the week. I have never seen a complexly dead day. It picks up very late like midnight or after but always found plenty of girls to choose irrespective of which day of the week I visited. Keep in mind occasionally some days could be slower than others.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2863195]Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.[/QUOTE]I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.
Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.
Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2863671]I agree. I always stuck to "payment after" rule everywhere I mongered but it was very difficult to continue with it in Casarao.
Do you manage to avoid prepayment with all the Casario girls? I am especially talking about 1st session in the club. Takeout and hosting at you place doesn't count.
Most of the Casarao girls insist on pre payment and they refused to go with me when I insisted on payment after the session. I finally relented during my recent trip a month and half ago and prepaid most of the girls at Casarao, which increased the pool of girls to choose from. Luckily all of them delivered good service. I have asked few local men at the club if they prepay and they all said yes. I wonder what the experience of the forum members who visited Casarao. Do you prepay or not at Casarao?[/QUOTE]I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.
I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Oh well, a first for me.
Casarao is indeed a strip club and sex show with the husband and and wife team today around 0430 hrs this Saturday morning.
Next.
Performer wife picked a male audience for a free BBBJ sitting on stage while they covered his head and face with a towel. Later, Husband and a third morena garota got doggy styled while the wife was being eaten out by her.
Did a few garota interviews:
Loira gymnast from pernambuco. Indicated 300 reales for 40 min room / 500 reales for the hour. If Takeout, house fee is 150 reales. 1 hour next door room is 100 reales. 800 reales for a 7 hour per noite in my hotel. She ran-off after a few minutes with her gin and redbull drink as she is in a rush to close a deal at 0200 hrs.
My morena Gaby from Matto Grosso with silicon tits was my chosen girl from 0300-0700 hrs. Payment after with 400 reales cash 1 hour room at 100 reales. Room wait at 30 minutes even with 33 rooms on site. Got in room at 0600 hrs. Interesting to see the tower of ladies bags stocked to the ceiling in cubicles (maybe about 50-100 day-bags or purses.
Will Rinse and repeat here as I can get 3 bangs for the buck compared to Scandallo.
Only thing is I love the sushi and ambience and live music and the ability to whisper sweet nothings in and around the many corners of Scandallo without all the noise. They even have a game room with about a dozen pinball machines and a pool table installed early this year or maybe I missed it last year. Well I have to get back to Scandallo before Formula one week next month. Per The Gerente-Alves they open up one Sunday out of the year for Formula One!!
I love 'them both!! Te Amo Brazil!!
Got to go, they are serving Feijoa in Scandallo in the next hour!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2863195]Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.
[/QUOTE]I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2863809]I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG. Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation. Yes, there is a "risk" of a "runner" with payment upfront at your hotel, but the hotel has her passport information so there's no incentive for her to pull that move. And if it's an incall at her place, then that's obviously not going to happen.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.[/QUOTE]The countries where payment is required upfront are countries where the johns are known to be scammers and will try every scheme not to pay.
This Medellin Centro rat is a big fan of YankeeFan.
[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2863652]Just got back from an enjoyable week in Sao Paulo. Combined sightseeing with hobbying. As I always say upfront in my FPs, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I seek the lowest cost venues whenever I travel to hobby. I don't want to drink with the SPs, don't want a massage, don't want to spend the night with them, don't want to have dinner with them. I do want to experience as many and varied a group of SPs as I can in a week, spending 15 to 20 minutes in each session, doing my 3 favorite positions (mish, doggy, CG). I enjoy the girl next door type, for example, those who look like the coeds you'd see on a typical campus, and MILF type, for example young (ish) mothers who you might see waiting outside a school to pick up their kids. I intentionally got an AirBnb within walking distance of Edificio 134 (Rua Alameda Baro de Limeira, 134, Edificio Itatiaia) as it is the closest one to a reasonable place to stay (Villa Buarque). The others I visited were*Rua dos Andradas 69* and*Rua Santa Ifigenia, 11. I sessioned 11 times, for either 40 or 50 reales a pop, though I was probably being charged the gringo rate. 134 was my favorite. It felt perfectly safe walking over there, at least as late as 8 PM. I must have seen at least 50 SPs spread over the 7 or 8 floors, usually standing on the landing of each floor, or on the steps (there is an elevator to get to the top). Quality was very good, and each time I finished a session, on the way out, I would see one or 2 more I'd like to do (I doubled up twice). The first session, the SP began with a BBBJ, and I was thinking I could keep looking forward to that, but that was the last one, all the others started covered, putting on the cover with their mouth. It is possible you can pay for extras, but my almost*non-existent Portuguese precluded me from doing so. The rooms are very small, here and in 69. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2863784]I posted about my Casarao experience in an earlier post. So What happens if you pay upfront, and there is a disagreement in the room because drunk asses like me don't always make the best decisions at the moment?
BTW I will post about my mulatto garotas threesome, Duplo experience in a scandallo report. Each garota was $600 reais, for the best Illusion of Passion (IOP) lesbians experience meets my Illusion of money (IOM) kkkk.
I found a cutie garota in Casarap late night after a superb visit to scandallo.
We walk to the Casarao Hotel and are standing in the long ass line to get a room. It's 1 am or 2 am there is a waiting system to call your number when a room is ready.
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
This pretty garota drops to her knees for an intense ten minutes of really good BBBJ sloppy deepthroat. She stops mid slurp smiles and says she is too drunk to continue.
She was drunk as hell in the club. We had a bunch of strong drinks. She looks up, sloppy salvia on her face, and tells me to keep the $400 reais she's not charging for anything!
Oh well, a first for me.[/QUOTE]Haha I love this trick with the high heel on the money. She's not running off in one shoe. Clever. I have also done the count it out and place it on the counter move. This seems satisfactory for most girls. Tho I have not had a problem with a handful of pay up front girls this year. As Axel says it varies by country / format.
Hi guys,
I just got back from my SP trip last week. And yet again I am planning my next one. This time I am planning during December 20th to January 2nd. I am worried if Scandello and / or Casarao will be close or empty during those days? Anyone tried SP during Christmas time for mongering?
Unfortunately I can not shift or change my days. So it will be either I go during Christmas or don't go at all. Please advise.
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2864177]Hi guys,
I just got back from my SP trip last week. And yet again I am planning my next one. This time I am planning during December 20th to January 2nd. I am worried if Scandello and / or Casarao will be close or empty during those days? Anyone tried SP during Christmas time for mongering?
Unfortunately I can not shift or change my days. So it will be either I go during Christmas or don't go at all. Please advise.[/QUOTE]Many girls will go home for the holiday. However, I was able to keep entertained last Christmas and New Years in SP. Clinicas still had many options and Casarao had enough. Hopefully I will be able to swing it and go again this year. If I can make it it will be the same days as you.
I was in SP over the holidays last year between 12/16 and 1/1. The boates were closed on NYE. I left on 1/1 so no idea if anything was open on NYD.
Thanks, let me know if you finalize your plan and we can tag up. There are couple of other mongers who will be in SP / Rio during that time.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2864218]Many girls will go home for the holiday. However, I was able to keep entertained last Christmas and New Years in SP. Clinicas still had many options and Casarao had enough. Hopefully I will be able to swing it and go again this year. If I can make it it will be the same days as you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2863809]...
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.[/QUOTE]The high end clincas fit this description.
You can't even talk to the girl in the most expensive one. You basically surrender all your advantage to the girl. The description appears to say pay X amount for the room, and why amount for the girl. This makes me think I have to pay the girl as long as she shows up.
I know in Sharon that I can say I don't want sex and pay the house fee and leave because the wording is different and the girl will ask you before sex.
One way to defeat this system is to form a group from mongers that already have something to contribute and review the girls privately. At the minimum is to review if the picture matches the girl in person.
So I met a girl in Sao Paulo, actually met her on Fetlife but got her to visit me when I was in Sao Paulo last year on business. She stayed with me for a week, not a working girl at all, just a real submissive ****. Then earlier this year, I was back for a few days and she came into town again and literally tried to fuck me to death over the course of two days. We did every damn thing you can do.
So long story short, we have an ongoing long-distance thing, and she wants me to arrange meetups with strangers, let men use her like the working girl she is.
Caveats are she records it (can hide your face) and you have to work through me to meet her. I also don't need to know your name, but she wants to fuck white guys, preferably professional. No need to speak Portuguese (I don't we communicate entirely through google translate).
If you are going to Sao Paulo, or live there and would like to use my ****, PM me. I'm still working out some details as to what she is comfortable with, but she asked me to lend her out to my friends, and since I don't have any friends down there I trust, I figure a bunch of similarly depraved strangers is the next best thing.
You can do pretty much anything you want except beat her or come in her pussy (she is not on birth control, I generally only fuck her ass).
I will try and pay attention here to PMs, she lives a bit outside Sao Paulo and will travel in, you will have to host. Possible if a few of you guys want to team up on her, she would like that too.
This is the value of gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL]. It is a model of what a website like this one could be.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2864444]The high end clincas fit this description.
You can't even talk to the girl in the most expensive one. You basically surrender all your advantage to the girl. The description appears to say pay X amount for the room, and why amount for the girl. This makes me think I have to pay the girl as long as she shows up.
I know in Sharon that I can say I don't want sex and pay the house fee and leave because the wording is different and the girl will ask you before sex.
One way to defeat this system is to form a group from mongers that already have something to contribute and review the girls privately. At the minimum is to review if the picture matches the girl in person.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2863809]I've mongered in many places. This rule doesn't apply to every place, location, or WG.
Amsterdam brothels? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Dubai? Payment upfront. Russian / Eastern Europeans in Bahrain? Payment upfront. High end escorts or porn stars in America or Europe? Payment upfront. No payment upfront? They'll walk right out of your hotel with zero hesitation.
Fortunately, on the other hand, there are plenty of places, brothels, and WGs where you can pay after service because it's standard procedure or because of the sheer amount of women. German FKK brothels? Payment afterward. Thailand brothels or thai / asian women in general? Payment afterwards. Dominican Republic, Brazil, Colombia, etc. Payment afterwards.
Also, even if you pay afterwards, you could still get bad service. Every monger knows that.
The takeaway is mongering isn't an exact science, and payment afterwards doesn't guarantee good service and is not always an option.[/QUOTE]Ok, first off I was very specific to whom I apply the pay after principal.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2863195]Monger rule #2: Never pay a FL, SW, or Escort in advance unless you enjoy receiving bad service.[/QUOTE]Now it is true that a punter can receive bad service anywhere and anytime, so most of us try to play the game to minimize the # of bad performances. Therefore, my suggestion to never pay a FL, SW, and or escort in advance is IMHO (KKK) useful advice. But you can take it or leave it.
It is not like I never pay in advance. In certain venues, for example, high end BKK Soapy Massage parlors I have been paying in advance for decades. 555. In their heyday I used to love these bordellos. The best of them had beautiful Thai girls and the sex was amazing. But you could not go upstairs until you paid for the girl in full. That was the house rule AND I had no theoretical problem paying in advance in this particular venue because I nearly always received great service! But who was responsible for that? The girls or the house? The Soapy girls were all schooled in certain techniques and there seemed like there was a minimum level of service the house would stand by. After that, a girl's personal passion level and the vibe between you would always determine just how good the session was.
And 2nd, I only travel monger to an ever dwindling number of 1st rate, girl friendly, cities and countries like SP and RJ, Brazil. I have no interest in traveling to the Gulf States for pussy. Of course, it would be different if I worked in those locals. Anyway, in Brazil since 2021, I have had only a few escorts ask for money in advance and ditto only a couple of Boate girls asked for money in advance. ALL my "pay in advance" Boate girls were from Casarao, but they all caved on their prepayment plan soon as I said "I pay later". BTW, I tried the ST hotel next door to Casarao 2 times; my 1st and last time. KKK. Too dirty! Not good! Since then I take all my Casarao girls back to my hotel.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2863832]Haha I love this trick with the high heel on the money. She's not running off in one shoe. Clever. I have also done the count it out and place it on the counter move. This seems satisfactory for most girls. Tho I have not had a problem with a handful of pay up front girls this year. As Axel says it varies by country / format.[/QUOTE]Here are my SP & RJ escort stats: roughly 95% of all my escort girls did not ask for money upfront. Of the 10% who did, I can recall a couple of girls were ok with the money placed next to the TV and two girls who abruptly walked out mad as all hell. KKK. I was astonished by the 2 walkouts, but I quickly came to the conclusion that I had just dodged a couple of bad sessions. KKK. So, I then quickly called a favorite girl I already knew for a quick substitution. I asked her what she was doing, she said, "nothing", and 45 minutes later she was in my hotel room in casual torn jeans / a halter top / and in no make up condition and we had a great night together.
So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.
[QUOTE=Pbone888;2865385]So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.[/QUOTE]You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night.
I have not seen public sex or group sex in Scandallo, only live music shows on stage, but Go to Casarao Augusta strip club.
They have sex show and strip show Saturday morning and saxophone performer on Wednesday morning before closing time. And perhaps more on other nites. Let us know what happens when you report back to our community.
Garotas in Scandallo will allow public kissing and tit groping (dressed) but my girl refused to seat on my lap and grind since she explained that house security frowns upon it! It strives to be a classy as a hot and proper uppity joint filled with horny rich guys.
[QUOTE=Pbone888;2865385]So in SP this weekend. Looking for hottest of the hot. How does Scandallo work? Take them back to the hotel or on premise? Is group and it public sex allowed? Any and all info on Scandallo appreciated.[/QUOTE]All the necessary information and reports that you might want to take note of relating to Scandallo and other SP Boates is available on this thread and the Reports of Distinction thread. Go back and RTFF! And if you still have some informed questions to ask afterwards, many BM's, including myself, will take the time to answer you.
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[QUOTE=Izl80;2865477]You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night. [/QUOTE]2022 F1 week took place while I was in town las year.
On Monday night I did not notice much difference in Scandallo from other Monday nights.
On Tuesday night Bomboa had a great selection of girls and a lot of customers, but not too many. It was a great night!
On Wednesday night a ton of girls showed up at Scandallo and there were a hell of a lot of customers. Full house! Later I went to Casarao around 1 am and it was jam packed too and it had great selection of girls. It was a 2 fer night!
Thurs-Friday-Saturday night I elected to stay home and I had my 2 favorite boate girls come visit me. They told me Scandallo Friday night was standing room only circus and there was an hour or longer wait to get a room. KKK. The only time I went to Scandallo when it was standing room only was for the Wesley Safadao concert and I had made plans to meet a girl there. I found her and we had a grat tine, but the joint was Wall to Wall girls and guys in all 3 bar areas and very difcil to navigate. I choose to take my girl out of there that night rather than wait for a room.
Scandallo was open Sunday night for a final "after the race" night so I went. I never saw the place so dead! KKK. There were only a handful of customers and the girls that showed up were mostly 2nd stringers ie low tier quality girls that I had never seen at Scandallo before. It was a good thing I ran into a familiar face or I would have been up shit's creek. KKK.
[QUOTE=Izl80;2865477]You will find hottest of the hot but will compete, during FORMULA 1 clientele, with high rollers. You can take 1 or more garotas to the in-house hotel. You can take them out to your hotel with exit fee to house if she expects you to be her only client for the night.
I have not seen public sex or group sex in Scandallo, only live music shows on stage, but Go to Casarao Augusta strip club.
They have sex show and strip show Saturday morning and saxophone performer on Wednesday morning before closing time. And perhaps more on other nites. Let us know what happens when you report back to our community.
Garotas in Scandallo will allow public kissing and tit groping (dressed) but my girl refused to seat on my lap and grind since she explained that house security frowns upon it! It strives to be a classy as a hot and proper uppity joint filled with horny rich guys.[/QUOTE]Very helpful. Thank you. Saturday morning at the strip club? That's when I arrive. Is it boy girl?
In your opinion where do I find the hottest of the hot LOL.
Tangara 200 is a 2 minute walk to. A Massage and happy ending place?
Let me tell you, I love hanging out at Tangara. I can have a drink down below at the bar and smell the aroma of food, as the staff cooks todays lunch, for the Garotas and staff to enjoy on their communal free lunch.
Above street level, Staff are quite friendly in the waiting room with complementary water and coffee. You can also see the list of the days working garotas.
Mingling with the garotas just outside the waiting room allows me to interview them. The walled fenced area with park benches and live wood benches is where they take their smoke break in-between presentations and introductions.
But catching them during lunch time around 2 pm would render reduced option availability and performance after a full meal lacking.
So I left and took a 2 minute stroll across the street and ended up having my aching body a 350 reales 1 hour somewhat proper massage with (body to body) happy ending included. But I wanted full GFE service for additional 250 reales to complete my day. (Total=$122 usd for the hour).
This place has new management and reopened in December 2022. They use to have a Barbershop and garota service, NOW the clientele appears to be tourist and upper crust Brazilians.
They still have an outside smoking seating area. Inside bar. Although you will occasionally see a therapist come up and introduced themselves as they emerge from the basement, they have an iPad to select from your choices of real women and / or transgenders. 4 hands service also available.
Although I can't recall the name of these place and YOU are willing to explore, do this and let me know what the address and name of the place.
1. Exit Tangara 200.
2. Turn right and walk a few feet.
3. See the first street across and walk there.
4. Keep on right side and walk a minute until you cross another street Rua Itapina .
5. Keep going straight and continue same side and it will be either 61 or 57? Rua Sao PaulinoYou will see men in and out. Explore and find your dream girl or Trans girl. Will I Repeat? Only if Tangara has piss poor selection and I need my body to body massage!
Thank you. Very helpful.
In your opinion where are the hottest of the hot?
Also is the strip club sex show boy / girl?
[QUOTE=Izl80;2865536]
Although I can't recall the name of these place and YOU are willing to explore, do this and let me know what the address and name of the place.
1. Exit Tangara 200.
2. Turn right and walk a few feet.
3. See the first street across and walk there.
4. Keep on right side and walk a minute until you cross another street Rua Itapina .
5. Keep going straight and continue same side and it will be either 61 or 57? Rua Sao PaulinoYou will see men in and out. Explore and find your dream girl or Trans girl. Will I Repeat? Only if Tangara has piss poor selection and I need my body to body massage![/QUOTE]It sounds like you are describing Sharon Massagens, which is up the hill from Tangara.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2865548]It sounds like you are describing Sharon Massagens, which is up the hill from Tangara.[/QUOTE]That is right Sharon Massagem.
Marcia at the front desk was very helpful and introduced me to the Lady Gerente. She assumed I was one of the Japanese client and was greeted me with"mushi-mushi". Marcia recommended shorty-Giovanna for my needed massage. As my first choice slim morena Stella on the iPad was super busy. If you need real Thai massage-may I suggest going to the source! There is no slip and slide soapy massage here as the venue is no equipped for it like Thailand. Butt the women here are I likey! I think Brazil is the best place to take shelter during the impending dark winter!!
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2863137]This may have been asked tons of times before, but in SP, for 3 days the best options could be?
1. Scandallo.
2 other boates.
3 Clinicas / Massages.
.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2865571]Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.[/QUOTE]Every venue is going to have a mix, so if you have a limited time, the best option is to start with Clinicas, then go to Scandallo, then go to Casarao. The high end tablet Clinicas (Taj Mahal, Sharon, Baronesas) start as early as 10 AM or 11 AM, the middle tier Clinicas (Prime, Tangara, Miruna, Abobora) get going closer to 2 PM, Scandallo picks up around 10 PM (though it's fun to arrive earlier for dinner), and Casarao around 12 midnight. Among these options you will find what you're looking for. Use Uber between each venue for time efficiency and it's possible (and a blast) to follow this schedule for a few days straight.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2865571]Thanks for the responses, but I am still confused a little and ask for your wisdom, where do you think I'll find the prettiest girls, I like young and preffer natural, no silicona, slim or normal fit. I think there are more options in Scandallo, with what I've read lots of girls to choose from, but also If you look at girls photos from some of the clinicas, they look already gorgeus, so could it be better in scandallo? ,may be too much photoshop? . I'll have only two days at SP.[/QUOTE]I am guessing you are talking about the high-end clinicas since that maybe the ones that you have access to photos.
I assume you have read Alex's review. The first one you can try is Palms. You will be limited once you apply all your conditions. You can ask the manager to filter them out. They are generally older though. Many have implants when I visited.
Some girls can look a little better than photos (once for me), and some can look much worst (multiple times for me). One happened at Lotus. She came in wearing a worn out lingerie bodysuit which made her look like someone I would see in the lineup in regular clinicas. That is the effect of photo. So among Alex and me, this place is 0 to 2 while Palms is 2 to 0. I would have declined the sex if I was given the choice like the other clincas. The room I had at Lotus basically is similar to regular clinica size but better equipped. It's not that much better to command the price they are charging.
It depends on the nights, Scandallo will be your best option. Casarao will be your last resort.
To me, this one in photo looks the same or better in person.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2865899]
To me, this one in photo looks the same or better in person.[/QUOTE]She is perfect.
In SP this week, there's bunch of SA Garotas I got on speed dial currently, but I have to go to Scandalo / Casarao in between those dates, so if anyone around and doesn't mind hanging out a bit together over there, then feel free to reach out. I'm just happy to be out here enjoying the sun and weather compare to what is happening back home.
Loving the current daytime weather in SP, no too hot not too cold. My first report on a photoacompanhantes girl and hopefully with many to come. Hope these reports will help you guys who are interested in PA. These girls all have positive reliable reviews on GP-Guia, which I had combed through extensively.
Reached out to several photoacompanhantes providers on Sunday and only 2 replied back. Luana Prado responded the quickest so scheduled with her for one hour at her designed motel, M Hotel in zona leste close to the red line metro station Artur Alvim. Rooms there are R50 for one hour. Rooms with AC are R60.
Luana arrived about 10 minutes late, very acceptable. Says she's 19, light morena, 5'5, very beautiful (8/10) matches with photos. A bit thicker than in the photos and for those of you who loves BBW, she's perfect. Big heavy squishy pair of melon sized titties and a big wide load booty. She's a Bahiana with a very friendly extroverted personally. Initially however she did seem to be a bit cold and distant (perhaps because I am a gringo) but quickly warmed up to me after I cracked some jokes. For those of you who don't speak portuguese, I don't think it will be a problem with her as she is quite talkative. Once she gets going she a ton of fun. Allowed kissing DFK whenever I wanted, BBBJ with good pressure. Not sure if she was just craving sex or what but the BJ could of been longer. She hopped on me cowgirl and went to work jumping on dick with gusto and shortly afterwards orgasmed. She's got a very sensitive pussy. The vision of her big fat titties swing in my face was absolutely amazing! Ate her pussy and ass like there was no tomorrow and she absolutely loved every second. She's got a moan of a kitty cat, low and sexy. She loves being fucked hard and fast and having her titties squeezed hard at the same time. Twerked on my face and with my dick in her pussy in doggy. She loves talking dirty and it was a lot of fun going back and forth with her, making her beg for my cum. Her service is unrushed and not once did she check the time during the session. I highly recommend her and will repeat with her myself if time allows. Here in Brazil, finding the women is not problem. The problem is not having enough time to fuck them all so one has to be choosy.
Her PA ad: / acompanhantes / sao-paulo / zona-leste / ninfetinha-mignon-para-homens-de-bom-gosto-ID-fh2 h6 (just add the site's address in the front).
Her GP-guia: / viewtopic. Php? F=2&t=252516&p=2909939 (just add the site's address in the front).
Luana's price:
R120 for one hour with one nut.
R150 for one hour with massage, 2 nuts, and joined shower.
R200 for one hour with all above + anal.
R230 with all above + CIM and cum on tits.
I was there Sunday night, was packed at 8 pm but people left early.
I was kinda disappointed this year with the quality. Usually during F1 week I see some 10's come out and this year they were none. Think most now just go on to sites instead like MP and put in their profile that they are not GP but want money to meet them LOL. Last year there was 2 hour wait for rooms, this year maybe only 1 hour. F1 will be in Las Vegas in 2 weeks so most Euro mongers probably rather go to that since there are plenty of pros in Vegas.
More importantly, I took out 3 girls that were solid 9's and paid 1,500 each so no gringo F1 price. Some rather go out than wait for rooms also. I will be there next year!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2865520]2022 F1 week took place while I was in town las year.
On Monday night I did not notice much difference in Scandallo from other Monday nights.
On Tuesday night Bomboa had a great selection of girls and a lot of customers, but not too many. It was a great night!
On Wednesday night a ton of girls showed up at Scandallo and there were a hell of a lot of customers. Full house! Later I went to Casarao around 1 am and it was jam packed too and it had great selection of girls. It was a 2 fer night!.[/QUOTE]
One more PA girl. This time is a GND type Sereia. Responded quickly to my messages and we set up an one hour session at her own place at 1130. Her apt is actually located very south of zona sul, near the Autódromo. I took the metro to Autódromo station and then took an Uber. On this day, she received me without any makeup so she looked less glamourous than her PA photos. She is such a cutie, soft spoken, and kinda quiet. Some blemishes on her face which makes her look even more like a GND. She's white with a in shape body, small firm natural titties and a small round bunda. We conversed a bit to break the ice. She told me she is from Minerais Gerais and she had just returned from there last night. Took my shower and she waited for me in her bed in a pink knee height dress. Disclaimer: she does not kiss, not even for extra. She doesn't do anal either. She started with some BBBJ, which was well exacuted with good amount of drool. Allows cunnilingus. She's got a really fat pussy, like, really fat! Doesn't restrict positions and can take it without any complaints. She doesn't talk much but was moaning like a kitty cat, soft and sexy in response to sexual penetration. Her phone was going off throughout the session and she only looked at it once briefly. I really wanted to talk to her some more but it seemed like there was already another client waiting for her. She charges R300 for one hour, R200 for 30 minutes. Also attends in motel. She would be a repeat if she lived closer to me.
Her PA ad: / acompanhantes / sao-paulo / carinhosa-e-safadinha-delicia-morena-do-corpo-escultural-ID-6 n75 n (just add the site's address in the front).
Her Gp-guia: / viewtopic. Php?=247383 (just add the site's address in the front).
Anyone know is there a free or by payment place (clinic or hospital) that I can get tested for HIV and other STDs here in Sao Paulo? Need to know urgently.
Also would like info on place where they do sperm count tests.
I came to brasil on Monday, was tired but I get into Scandallo, as mentioned before the place is great, looks luxury, girls dress and make up like a cocktail party, but on Monday to be true there were very few attractive girls, maybe because they worked the day before cause the F1 event. For my taste, there were only l 4 good looking girls, 2 were occupied, so I talk to the other two, one was charging 1500 Rs (she said we can negotiate) and the other 1000 Rs, also willing to negotiatie so I took her very nice brunette, skinny. From the reports I read I had the feeling like Scandallo was maybe overated, so I decided to return on Wednesday, it was better, many girls close to a hundred, but again for me, the average girl I won't' say are pretty but OK. , anyway this time I found around 10 having a very good looking, most of the occupied, and some of them where asking to 2000, which always is negotiable, at the end I did not pick any girl, but the place claim back its respect, so far the best place in Brazil for me.
On Tuesday I went to Casaro, from 10 pm to 1 am, I recommend stay away from there, valueless place, at least for me, maybe 1 or 2 girls are near to a 7, but in average not a good place, or maybe was also because onTuesday there is less activity.
Arrived at Scandallo around 10:30 pm. Cost 500 reais to enter but it all can be used on food and drink. Place packed with over 100 girls and maybe a little less than half of guys. Basically every type of look Brazil has to offer in this place. Depending on your rating scale, your 8-10 probably was there. True, there are a lot of normal looking girls, next door types so doing expect to have every girl be a runway model or Instagram model.
I stay until nearly 5 in the morning fucking, observing, and chatting with girls. I'm not trying to exaggerate or boast but I could rarely just sit or stand anywhere because downstairs when you enter when a girl was not trying talk to me and use their power of female persuasion to try to get me upstairs ad they are master seductress. I speak a very weak intermiate level of Portuguese but a good amount speak English. The antics of the night ranged from girls flashing me, trying to put their hands down my pants, a lot of kisses initiated by them. Convos about the worse Brazilians (consensus was cariocas LOL), to which county has the best looking women (a few of the girls heard Dubai does which I had to tell them they can't compete with Brasilian women).
Anyway, session with two girls in house. One with 26 year old enhanced statuesque beauty from Minea Gerais. I'm a curves guy and I could see her ass from the front through a modest dress so I had to scoop her. She wanted to 1500 but negotiate it down to 800 for an hour. She and many others usually were in pairs and they always tried to negotiate for there lesser looking friends to join so if guys like 3 somes there is definitely a lot of bargaining opportunity there. Sex was good nothing special besides the brasileira way of wanting to fuck your brains out. Definitely no rush probably could of stayed in there with her for 2 hours because we definitely went over the hour. Two nuts, shower, bought her some food as my way of tipping her and using the 500 I spent to enter. Room cost an additional 300 and paid after the session. Oh, and she mentioned she was going to work in Campinas on Friday at Fazendinha. She said Scandallo is by far the better club but it makes me interested to see what is in Campinas.
Second girl was just a why not before I leave. It was around 3:30 and her and her friend approached me so I just said why not. 21 year old red hair with enhanced ass and breast from Sao Paulo. Super soft bubble butt with great pussy. Met my wet, warm and tightness for great vagina. 2 nuts, shower and then home in an Uber.
Great place. Be prepared to spend. If you are into the so called elegant, classy look venue with girls dressed to match you will enjoy Scandallo. There's always the debate if you can find girls of same quality in other venues (other clubs, CLínicas, online) the answer is yes but takes more work. This is one stop shopping to find something you really desire. I would like it more if they were walking around naked like FKKs or in bikinis like 4 x 4 but really don't have any complaints.
[QUOTE=Global00;2867488]Anyway, session with two girls in house. One with 26 year old enhanced statuesque beauty from Minea Gerais. I'm a curves guy and I could see her ass from the front through a modest dress so I had to scoop her. Second girl was just a why not before I leave. It was around 3:30 and her and her friend approached me so I just said why not. 21 year old red hair with enhanced ass and breast from Sao Paulo. Super soft bubble butt with great pussy. [/QUOTE]Them hind parts are [B]phat[/B]! Hahaha! You got damn right you can see that there bubble from the front. Front, back, sides, and all the way around! LMFAO! I think that comment you made was about the first girl, and the pics look to be from the second one (redhead), but no matter. Same set of facts LOL! Well, did she try to upcharge for photos? I've found the Brasilieras to be pretty open to photos relative to the girls from other countries, particular those outside of Latin America.
[QUOTE=Global00;2867488]There's always the debate if you can find girls of same quality in other venues (other clubs, CLnicas, online) the answer is yes but takes more work. This is one stop shopping to find something you really desire.[/QUOTE]That's a Scandallo girl on the photos?
Maybe it's a matter of likes, lots of guys here enjoy Casarao.
I don't like Casarao girls. Some girls from Bomboa and Cafe Photo told me they would never work in Casarao.
The area has heavy vibes.
[QUOTE=Chaman;2867435]
On Tuesday I went to Casaro, from 10 pm to 1 am, I recommend stay away from there, valueless place, at least for me, maybe 1 or 2 girls are near to a 7, but in average not a good place, or maybe was also because onTuesday there is less activity.[/QUOTE]
Here a taxi tour in downtown Buenos Aires. Street walkers mostly.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVk-wHurPBw[/URL]
[QUOTE=Gabbarsing;2854183]Anyone done mongering at Buenos Aires in Argentina? Respective forum is not that active and I have been itching to explore Buenos Aires. Any insights? Also appreciate if folks can compare that with mongering in SP (which I am very much familiar with).[/QUOTE]
Check out the best massage clinic in Sao Paulo I was there and I recommend it to anyone going to So Paulo.
[URL]https://clinicavip.com.br[/URL]
Confira tambem o melhor site de comandantes do ABC.
[URL]https://pirigueti.com.br[/URL]
[QUOTE=Global00;2867488]Arrived at Scandallo around 10:30 pm. Cost 500 reais to enter but it all can be used on food and drink. Place packed with over 100 girls and maybe a little less than half of guys. Basically every type of look Brazil has to offer in this place. Depending on your rating scale, your 8-10 probably was there. True, there are a lot of normal looking girls, next door types so doing expect to have every girl be a runway model or Instagram model.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your experiences. Good info. Provided.
I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.
Every one of my meetings ended up being a home run, and a couple I would consider grand slams! Even though I like variety and usually set aside half of my trip to see new girls, I would be content to repeat with every one of the girls I met on this trip when I next return to Brazil.
I had planned this trip back in October 2022 with a friend to visit SP for F1 week. Our SP trip eventually turned into a SP & RJ trip, where we got to sample a bit of each city. I arrived in the middle of the week hoping to check out the talent at Scandallo during F1 week. I've heard that the club gets packed to the gills with girls coming in from all over Brazil, South America and overseas.
I was told that 650+ girls showed up on Tuesday, 950+ on Wednesday, and 900+ on Thursday by my favorite waiter and management at the club. I personally was there with a friend on Wednesday and Thursday night from 10 pm until 2-3 am and can concur on those numbers. I even counted the crowd from the balcony of the 2nd floor VIP area on Thursday and stopped counting after reaching 500 in the disco area. Once you add in girls at the outside patio, restaurant and in rooms, that's easily 900+. Every part of the club was open, including the back section of the outdoor patio.
As you can imagine, with such a big crowd, it can be quite hectic. It was difficult to move in the disco area, and sometimes even in the outdoor patio area. I was glad we had a table reserved in both the disco and patio area so we didn't need to stand around, which a lot of the guys had to do. While watching all the girls parade by, my friends and I kept thinking and saying two phrases. "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis"!
I've heard that many UTR girls, pink book girls and high end sugar babies and GDP come to Scandallo to work during F1 week. I was expecting to see a lot more 9's and almost 10's than normal. Although I did see more 9's and almost 10's than usual, it was probably only 1. 5 to 2 x the norm, which was a bit disappointing, as there were 3 to 5 x as many girls when compared to a typical weekday. For my tastes, most of the "extra" girls were in the 6's to 8's category so they didn't interest me too much. I also think a lot of the higher end talent has filtered to private F1 parties. Some friends and I went to some civilian clubs over the weekend and found out that many of these private F1 parties soaked up so much clientele, that these civilian clubs closed their doors over the weekend due to a lack of interest / patronage. And we are talking about big name places like Sutton. Other civilian clubs were closed as they rented out their space for these private F1 parties. Heard from a friend that Bagatelle had a bigger after hours party than usual, filled with really hot upscale sugars, models and pink book girls.
Speaking of inflated F1 week pricing, I think the girls were probably disappointed at the turnout of the male clientele at Scandallo. If there were 3-5 x as many girls as usual, there were probably only 2 x as many guys as usual in the club when I was there. The girl to guy ratio was probably 4 to 5:1. I was staying at a hotel that many of the F1 team was staying at and the hotel GM informed me that there were plenty of tickets available when I inquired about tickets for a friend. He said it was due to Red Bull having already clinched the cup so a lot of tickets are being resold. The season being "over" and perhaps F1 fans preferring to go visit Vegas, which is more glitzy, for the next race, probably lessened the crowd in Scandallo as well. Due to the above, I did not experience the expected double or triple pricing I've been told is the norm from past F1 weeks at Scandallo. The top girls did start off at R2000 to R3000 for an hour and R3000 to R6000 for overnight. My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. We also don't really negotiate too hard, so perhaps a "haggler" can get them down even more.
I also noticed that a few of the really popular Scandallo girls weren't around. I presume they were pre-booked by their regulars. I also saw other popular regular Scandallo girls go long stretches without any clients or interest. I am not sure if the locals were looking to sample the imported goods or that they balked at those normally popular girls asking for too much. For F1 week, it felt like a buyer's market.
The first girl I took on Wednesday at Scandallo wasn't one of the top 5 hottest girls I saw in the club. I definitely had "decision paralysis" and by the time I decided to go after one of them, they had either disappeared or were occupied with guys. I "settled" for a solid 8. 5 by the name of "be", which I eventually upgraded to a 9 when I realized she had an amazing natural rack. "be" was from Cabo Frio in Rio de Janeiro and was working in SP for 2 weeks. Great personality and good English skills as well. She started at R4000 for an overnight, but quickly came down to R2000, and was open to some of my requested extras / fetishes. She had amazing stamina and was disappointed when I told her she had to go in the morning as I had some meetings to get ready for. Normally, an easy repeat, but other girls I met on this trip were even more amazing.
I had decision paralysis once again on Thursday. Once 2 am rolled around and my wingman called it a night, I figure I would have to "settle" a second night in a row. Then a pretty redhead that was on the top of my list freed up and I chatted her up. Unfortunately, she didn't speak a lick of English and I was too tired (partially due to "be" keeping me up all night) to try to speak and think in my Portuanol and use Google Translate. She offered to find an English speaking friend of hers and brought over another girl that I had been eyeing earlier but thought had vanished. Her friend "J" looks like a taller and edgier Natalie Portman due to her tattoos. She spoke great English and was also from Barra in Rio de Janeiro, but had been working in SP for a few months. We found out we had the same taste in music and politics and we quickly settled on R1500 for overnight until the morning. "J" was a freak in the sack and insatiable. We took power naps between each romp and she stayed way past our agreed time. Until 5 pm when I had to send her off so I could get ready for dinner with my friends and my weekend date. "J" is a passionate Brazilian energizer bunny in the sack and provides chill and relaxing company when not in the heat of passion. She told me she is also a professional masseuse and gave me an amazing neck and shoulder massage while we smoked some of her weed on the balcony of my hotel room. I definitely plan to repeat with her on my next trip.
For the weekend, I had hedged myself against potential inflated F1 week pricing by having a prearranged date with a girl named "L", whom I met in Scandallo earlier this year at normal Scandallo overnight pricing. She was the highlight of my trip. As "L" is a professional dancer, she has your typical lithe flexible ballerina body. We tried so many new positions that were only possible due to her flexibility and strong core. As she is a Carioca, she is very chill and has a bohemian attitude. She is very charismatic and my friends said she was the life of the party. We drank, ate at nice places, smoked weed, danced in clubs and fucked most of the weekend. I also didn't repeat a past mistake by keeping a girl for too long. I've found that after 1. 5 to 2 days, they get too comfortable with you and might not try as hard or or take things for granted. And some of the more negative "GF" tendencies start to show. I plan to see "L" again in her hometown of Rio de Janeiro when I return to Brazil.
I then went to RJ for a few days to meet my friend and had a fun time there as well. I'll write my RJ experiences in that forum.
A few random thoughts and musings.
On my last night in RJ, I did a very crazy termas / club crawl through almost all the tier 1 termas and clubs in one night. My friend and I started the night at Monte Carlo, as it was near our hotel in Copa. We then went to 4 x4 to meet girls we've seen before who said they would be working there that night. My girl flaked and didn't show up for work, his girl didn't and they went to the room with her. Rather than settle for one of the other girls, I decided to go check out Solarium, then Centaurus while he was busy getting his freak on. We would meet up at MABs when he finished. After checking out MABs, my friend went to bed and I went to Marrakech and finally Dolce Vita. I visited the last 4 termas / clubs plus MABs within a span of 2 hours!
This whirlwind of a RJ terma / club tour made me realize why I love Scandallo so much. Each RJ termas and club is so small that you can check out all the talent within 10-20 minutes. I can basically check out most of the tier 1 places in RJ in 2-3 hours and that's including travel time! When you spend 2-3 hours in Scandallo, you are barely scratching the surface! I can easily spend the whole evening at Scandallo without being bored, especially when accompanied by friends. In Scandallo, I can eat a high quality meal at a nice restaurant, smoke a cuban cigar, take my time interacting with the 100-200+ girls, dance with them in the disco, make out on the couches, chat in a quiet setting with good lighting in the outdoor patio when vetting them, etc. There is enough talent that I can take a girl to a room and then come back and be certain there will be another that would interest me should I find the energy for seconds. Or even thirds!
I discovered that there were many professional massage parlors and spas that give great massages at Thailand-like prices in Brazil. Many of the places are very posh as well. Previously, I've been lazy and getting them at trumped up prices at the hotel spa. I definitely plan to get regular massages outside of the hotel more often in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro in the future.
A majority of the girls I saw on this trip (both in SP and RJ) either negotiated or preferred to take USD over reals. And they gave me a 5:1 exchange rate, when the exchange rate was 4. 90:1.
A Casa do Porco continues to shine, and their new tasting menu was amazing. For the price, it's easily one of the best values for high end dining in Sao Paulo. It's no wonder they are fully booked months in advance. Luckily, they do save some tables for walk-ins to be more accessible to the public. But be prepared for a 45 min to 2 hour wait should you go that route.
My new favorite Omakase is Huto in Moema. The one knock I have against their Omakase is that Uni, which is usually a "showcase" piece, wasn't part of their Omakase menu and had to be done as an a la carte addition.
After seeing so many IGs of girls at Banana Cafe, I finally paid the place a visit. They have an amazing selection of drinks and very yummy desserts. I'the definitely go back.
Mahau Bar is a great place for drinking and dancing. Great DJ sets of EDM, House, Hip-Hop, etc. Nice outdoor area too when you want to take a break from the high energy of the club area. Lots of beautiful people so it's a good place to pick up civilians if you have game. A couple of girls actually flirted and hit on my date.
The-Edge was a huge disappointment. Meh drinks, dark as hell, crappy DJs. Left without using up our consumption. It was that bad.
Seen Restaurant and Bar in Hotel Tivoli. Their mixologists continue to impress with innovative and complex tasting drinks. All done with flair. Good place for beautiful watching too. Same goes for the hotel lobby bar and lobby area.
My new favorite Brazilian churrascaria is Assador Rio's in RJ. Great pricing, so many high end cuts, everything brought to the table (sides, sauces, appetizers, etc.), so many extras included. They kept feeding us food and drinks, as if they didn't want us to leave! Also a great view of the water in the Flamengo area.
My new favorite boteco is Boteco Belmonte in Ipanema. Yummy tapas like apps for sharing, big portions, delicious drinks, good view, great vibe.
Sao Paulo's nickname of "Terra the Garoa" definitely applied during my visit. There was an intense burst of wind and rain on Friday that knocked out our F1 viewing plans in the afternoon. It also did so much damage to Ibirapuera Park (fallen trees, etc.) that they closed the WHOLE PARK on Saturday when we tried to visit!
CGH / Congonhas is a very efficient airport. Was able to breeze through both arriving and departing on my way to and from Rio de Janeiro. I can't say the same about GOL though. Arrived almost 2 hours before my domestic flight at the premium check-in area and I saw a line 40 deep. After almost an hour in line, there were still 20+ people ahead of me.
I had to do the "asshole Gringo" routine and go up to the front and ask why there is such a long delay, as I've been in this line for almost an hour and I'm going to miss my flight! Then I spent almost 30 minutes arguing / debating them about the luggage allowance afforded me due to my airline loyalty status. I had to speak to two supervisors before they tagged my luggage without extra charge. Thankfully, the luggage system is very efficient in CGH and my luggage made it on the plane even though it was only 32 minutes before departure. Security was also great as I was able to go from the check-in counter to the gate in under 11 minutes.
What I learned from that experience: 1) checked bag cutoff is not 60 minutes, but 30 minutes for domestic Brazilian flights 2) GOL's IT is so bad it's like it's maintained by preschoolers 3) I am going to fly with LATAM for domestic Brazilian flights in the future, even though I have elite status with a GOL partner.
Uber package delivery is amazing! A couple of the Cariocas left things at my hotel and they suggested I use Uber to send it back to them. It was cheap (cheaper than regular Uber), quick (as they are usually motorbikes and can weave in and out of traffic) and reliable (as you can track it and so can the recipient).
I heard good things about Fazendiha in Campinas from multiple girls and local guys at Scandallo. One guy tells me he usually flies into Campinas from Rio de Janeiro and spends the day in the club before going to Sao Paulo. Sounds ingenious as it cuts down the travel time to the club from Sao Paulo by half! I might try that on my next trip!
Yes sir. Two girls picture taken in Scandallo during the sessions.
[QUOTE=Sperto;2867511]That's a Scandallo girl on the photos?[/QUOTE].
You are right about the facts LOL. They both can be seen from the front LOL. The red head walked right next to me while talking to another girl and did a spin around move so I can see her ass LOL. It worked.
Neither of them charged for pics. They were both happy and dancing before and after the session. I just asked if I can take a picture and they were cool. Just cover up the tatts.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2867507]Them hind parts are [B]phat[/B]! Hahaha! You got damn right you can see that there bubble from the front. Front, back, sides, and all the way around! LMFAO! I think that comment you made was about the first girl, and the pics look to be from the second one (redhead), but no matter. Same set of facts LOL! Well, did she try to upcharge for photos? I've found the Brasilieras to be pretty open to photos relative to the girls from other countries, particular those outside of Latin America.[/QUOTE]
Another visit to SP Scandalo before the pricey F1 week started. I stayed in the Villa Mariana area and took an Uber to Moema. The Cozzy Suites used facial recognition to open the doors of the hotel. There is a stupid digital PIN code for the room. At night my drunk, tired ass cannot remember another fking pin code. I figured out how to use the automated laundry in the building with a lot of help.
I spent 99 percent of the time in Scandalo rooms, Mooema clinicas Tangara first floor rooms, Prime rooms and a couple of porno star repeats. Yeah that cleaning guy at Tangar is like JJ "Dynamite" walker. So never needed to bring garota back to the room. I slept peacefully and well without the airplane noises from CGH. And could stream the NFL games in peace. This trip a few new experiences for me. Scandalo rocks as always Tues-Thurs. I arrived at 7 pm and only did threesomes with very attractive light skin morenas for $700 reais each and mixed Asian cuties. These garotas illusion of passion (IoP) was off the charts as it met my illusion of money (IoM) . Later I learned the gossip and jealousy of garotas in scandalo runs deep.
I made sure to do a mini-test run of a threesome before going upstairs. We sit in the last row of the round tables in the disco area across from the bathrooms, near the back barI got the waiters to clear a table for us while grabbing three chairs. There is a lot of garotas traffic walking past as a nice viewing spot for talent. The lightskin morena and I deep French kiss first, then switch to DFK the mixed Asian girl, then I gently push their heads together for them to deep sloppy tongue kiss, lesbian style, then I join in kissing and tonguing both of them same time. All three of us openly tongue fucking, kissing threesome, uninhibited and I was obnoxious about it. If you saw us in action I didn't care, haha I mean jajaja or kkkk whatever. Then I took a swig of my cognac with ice. Slide the cold ice into the trio kissing session, for some " iceballing" action. Then told each garotas in portospanish that's what I want when we go upstairs. I'm going to dump a good size cum load to their eager open tongues, and they going to snowball my leche between them porno style. They agreed, and off we went upstairs with our drinks. Think I did 3 or four threesomes each night Tues-Thur. I should of told the chicas to wipe off the cheapass red lipstick first. I was covered in stupid red lipstick all over. , all night.
During the scandalo threesome kissing session occasionally a young blonde branca would casually come over with the desire to join in the threeway kissing fun. Had to turn her away for the next time.
At Prime and Miruna this time around I encouraged the two garotas to relax and do whatever they wanted during our hour or two hour four hands session. If they want to get lit, fine with me cause I was happy with cognac and ice. They can get lit together. That move amped up the threesome experience. I fondly remember the two garotas from Prime, she had her eyes that would roll up, with a satisfying grin on her face as she enjoyed licking, erotic slurping each of my leche spurts. She is scooping up the gob of leche from my dick with her tongue, sliding into the open mouth of the other chica, then she grabs the chicas mouth to bring in close, so her tongue does not miss a drop. Then she slowly licks the garotas face with my leche. They do each for a nasty leche facial. One garota swallowed as the other spit leftover leche down her throat. She held the chica head in her hands as she aims the leche spit to hit the backside of the chica throat. No gagging, no retching, nothing except two smiling faces grinning satisfied with leche covered faces, tongues and lips. Damn lit garotas pros are the bomb. Those porto duolingo lessons are paying off, easier to talk with garotas exactly what in a porno style session. I extend the session for another hour to recover, build up more leche and go another porno round.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]...My new favorite boteco is Boteco Belmonte in Ipanema. Yummy tapas like apps for sharing, big portions, delicious drinks, good view, great vibe....[/QUOTE]I happened to frequent this restaurant in Lapa. Now I just learned that it has many locations after reading your post. A regular likes cocktail so we went to this place after sex. The waiter walked around serving fresh bakery items on the tray, almost like a dim sum style. They are in an old but well maintained building like many others around Lapa. Bar Original in Meoma has similar quality.
I think you can always get a seat if you go to A Casa do Porco early before noon or late at night after 10:30 because that is my schedule. Or you can grab a sandwich from the window if you don't want to wait. The food presentation is excellent. I feel this place is very touristy and has many foreigners visiting. They also charge higher service fee, like many other places. Have you tried Bar the Dona Ona just near by. I like the food there.
I think any airline could have similar problem. Recently, I had to stand in line for more than 5 hours until 4AM waiting for the airline to get me a new flight because the flight was cancelled. The flight before that, one hour flight took 2 hours in the air. I was sleeping because before this I was my on red-eye flight. I woke up when it landed after 2 hours, I suspected that it was CGH and, not knowing why, I thought I was dreaming. But indeed it was CGH, the flight could not land due to weather so it returned. My last 3 flights out of GRU, 2 were cancelled and I missed one due to traffic and short connection time. Two times I bought another ticket at the airport counter to get on another flight the same day.
Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2867741]Another visit to SP Scandalo before the pricey F1 week started. I stayed in the Villa Mariana area and took an Uber to Moema.[/QUOTE]Good reports. Thanks for sharing. Look forward to reading future reports.
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2868224]Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen...[/QUOTE]It's worth it if you have never been. It's still YMMV, so it's better to keep a lower expectation.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.[/QUOTE]There is a Boteco Belmonte in Vila Mariana (Sampa) owned by same people, although does not compete with views of Ipanema. Fully agree with Hato, by far one of my favorites in Sampa.
Now you can see the night trip from Sao Paulo downtown to Scandallo by Uber, so you can see how SP really looks like at night.
Much better than google street view, it also has the music chosen by the cab driver.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5[/URL]
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2868224]Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Here the link. A letter was missing.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5w[/URL]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2868367]Now you can see the night trip from Sao Paulo downtown to Scandallo by Uber, so you can see how SP really looks like at night.
Much better than google street view, it also has the music chosen by the cab driver.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOUzwcQ7Z5[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]I haven't written many reports in the last year, even though I still visit Sao Paulo 4-6 times a year, as it is basically the same set of good to great experiences. A couple of negative experiences the last couple of trips has made me feel that perhaps my visits to Brazil have plateaued or I've let my guard down to some extent.
However, my most recently completed trip was perhaps my best one to date. A few things probably made this trip more enjoyable. I was not working much this trip so I was able to relax more. I was hanging out with some good friends, with like-minded tastes and sensibilities. I spent time with only new girls on this trip (no repeats), which is the first time this has happened since my inaugural trip to Brazil. And finally, by some weird coincidence, all the girls I spent time with were Cariocas!
I totally dig the relaxed and chill vibe of the Cariocas, but I don't generally go for the typical Carioca look. The majority of girls (excluding Paluistas) that I've been with in Brazil were from Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina or Rio Grande do Sul. This trip, I was lucky to find a lot of light skinned Cariocas or those that have the Minas Gerais or Southern Brazilian look.
Every one of my meetings ended up being a home run, and a couple I would consider grand slams! Even though I like variety and usually set aside half of my trip to see new girls, I would be content to repeat with every one of the girls I met on this trip when I next return to Brazil.[/QUOTE]How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2868398]How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.[/QUOTE]I have never had to pay more than 800.
Went to Polícia Federal to extend my visa. I have done this on two previous trips and never had any problems. However this time, I was told that they couldn't find my visa info in their system so therefore they can't do anything. Instead, they told me to go to the airport and check in with the polícia federal there. My passport was stamped when I went through customs! How does something like this even happen I don't even know. I told my Brazilian friend that I have been an illegal alien all this time. All he did was laugh at me.
I don't think this happens too often but I think it's something that now should be in the back of everyone's mind when they pass through customs. Ask them to make sure they've entered your info into the system. I just hope the polícia federal at the airport can correct it.
From Socrates post that you quoted: "My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. ".
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2868398]How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2868398]How much is a girl at Scandallo during a normal week for 1 hour and overnight. Want to try SP for the first time but not for 2000 reals 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm. Casarao does have fewer girls who are my type to choose from, but there are always a few good prospects and I've only been disappointed once this trip. The one thing I would be mindful of is CBJs are more common here, so definitely ask if that's a deal breaker for you. Keep in mind though that when I say more common I mean a bit under 50% versus Scandallo's < 5%. Lastly on Casarao, don't bother showing up before 11:30 and try to go next door for your first round by 1 am. Before 11:30 its likely to be devoid of quality girls, but after 1 am the hotel gets busy and you have longer waits for a room. The waiting can be fun with the right girl, but waiting in that line twice would mean I don't get home until 5 am. It's been downright bizarre this last week to see the club packed wall to wall with people, and the hotel having three people in the lobby and no line.
Lastly not to contradict myself, but if I was only in SP for a week or less I'd be living it up at Scandallo. My mindset reflects being here for two weeks already with another four to go, so I don't want to make any newbies doubt the Scandallo experience. Anyway, I'll try to compile a proper report near the end of this trip. Have fun everyone!
[QUOTE=Tochka;2863784]
We grab a seat and drink more flirting. We agreed on a price of $400 reais one hour. She offers to receive payment in Pix or credit. She pulls out a small terminal from her purse.
Damn I considered it for a half second then thought if I swipe my card I might not be able to use the card in Prime, Tangar, or Miruna Clinica in the morning. Haha its the only reason I don't swipe thinking about the duplos in the morning. I changed and told her lets do cash, it's better. Our number is called, we are stumbling in the hallway to the rooms.
Off we go to the rooms down a long hallway, downstairs up other stairs, darn another maze of rooms. We reach the room.
In the room, she says to pay upfront. I responded not. For a few minutes, it was a Mexican standoff.
Having been in a similar situation in Tijuanaa Adelitas I offer a compromise. I pull $400 reais, count them out loud, and, together. I ask for her high heels shoe. Place the dinero underneath her high heel shoe on top of the cabinet. She can see the money is there and it's hers when the deed is done.
She agrees great it worked.
[/QUOTE]I also experience girls taking out small device to swipe card for payment. There is no way I would risk swiping cards in these devices, so I always pay cash.
I did refuse to pay upfront few times. Once girl settle for half the payment before and half after. With another girl I threatened to walkout which promoted her to quickly agree for payment after. Its definitely a hassle to negotiate payment after in Casarao. So, I have started paying upfront. So far so good but will see what happens in future.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]
I was told that 650+ girls showed up on Tuesday, 950+ on Wednesday, and 900+ on Thursday by my favorite waiter and management at the club. I personally was there with a friend on Wednesday and Thursday night from 10 pm until 2-3 am and can concur on those numbers. I even counted the crowd from the balcony of the 2nd floor VIP area on Thursday and stopped counting after reaching 500 in the disco area. Once you add in girls at the outside patio, restaurant and in rooms, that's easily 900+. Every part of the club was open, including the back section of the outdoor patio.
As you can imagine, with such a big crowd, it can be quite hectic. It was difficult to move in the disco area, and sometimes even in the outdoor patio area. I was glad we had a table reserved in both the disco and patio area so we didn't need to stand around, which a lot of the guys had to do. While watching all the girls parade by, my friends and I kept thinking and saying two phrases. "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis"!
[/QUOTE]Very nice report, SocratesNY, and thanks for sharing details of what it is like during F1 week.
Wow! 900+ girl. I thought 200-300 girls on a night is the tops for the club but never imagined the it could pull in that many girls a night. I experience "Sensory Overload" and "Decision Paralysis" with 150-200+ girls. You experiencing it with such huge numbers is totally understandable. I guess I need to plan a trip next year during F1 week to see the spectacle. I am curious to know what was the entrance fee during the days you have visited.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2867655]
Speaking of inflated F1 week pricing, I think the girls were probably disappointed at the turnout of the male clientele at Scandallo. If there were 3-5 x as many girls as usual, there were probably only 2 x as many guys as usual in the club when I was there. The girl to guy ratio was probably 4 to 5:1. I was staying at a hotel that many of the F1 team was staying at and the hotel GM informed me that there were plenty of tickets available when I inquired about tickets for a friend. He said it was due to Red Bull having already clinched the cup so a lot of tickets are being resold. The season being "over" and perhaps F1 fans preferring to go visit Vegas, which is more glitzy, for the next race, probably lessened the crowd in Scandallo as well. Due to the above, I did not experience the expected double or triple pricing I've been told is the norm from past F1 weeks at Scandallo. The top girls did start off at R2000 to R3000 for an hour and R3000 to R6000 for overnight. My friends and I were able to easily negotiate hot tier 1 girls down to R800 to R1000 for an hour and R1500 to R2000 for an overnight, which was the norm during the summer. We also don't really negotiate too hard, so perhaps a "haggler" can get them down even more.
[/QUOTE]Glad to hear the prices were not too inflated. Sounds like it was a buyers market. In my opinion, lots of girls go empty handed during normal times and I bet it was worse during F1 week with 4+:1 ratio.
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2868224]Would appreciate any feedback gentlemen.
I have visited Brazil about 4 times now but always Rio. While I do come for play I GREATLY enjoy the easy vibe of Rio. The plan is to head back over in a few weeks but thinking of giving SP a try because of the storied I have heard about Scandello being the best.
I have gone through the threads here and I see great and so so reviews on Scandello.
So is it worth it for me to give up the laid back Rio vibe and visit SP and Scandello this trip?
Again, any feedback is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Scandallo is the place to visit if you want to see few hundred girls under one roof with luxurious atmosphere. Its not cheap like others have said. Prepare to spend a minimum of about 1500 reals (girl + entrance + room). Only way to know if the club is for you or not is to visit it once. In addition to Scandallo, you can try other boetes like Casarao, Bamboa, Cafe Photo etc. , and much cheaper clinicas while in SP.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2868473]Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm. Casarao does have fewer girls who are my type to choose from, but there are always a few good prospects and I've only been disappointed once this trip. The one thing I would be mindful of is CBJs are more common here, so definitely ask if that's a deal breaker for you. Keep in mind though that when I say more common I mean a bit under 50% versus Scandallo's < 5%. Lastly on Casarao, don't bother showing up before 11:30 and try to go next door for your first round by 1 am. Before 11:30 its likely to be devoid of quality girls, but after 1 am the hotel gets busy and you have longer waits for a room. The waiting can be fun with the right girl, but waiting in that line twice would mean I don't get home until 5 am. It's been downright bizarre this last week to see the club packed wall to wall with people, and the hotel having three people in the lobby and no line.
Lastly not to contradict myself, but if I was only in SP for a week or less I'd be living it up at Scandallo. My mindset reflects being here for two weeks already with another four to go, so I don't want to make any newbies doubt the Scandallo experience. Anyway, I'll try to compile a proper report near the end of this trip. Have fun everyone![/QUOTE]JZeleznik,
Thanks for this commentary and breakdown of Scandallo pricing. I will be visiting in a few weeks and this information is much appreciated.
With that said, I ask the veterans of ISG, what would your ideal night look like at Scandallo? I imagine myself arriving around 6 PM. Then grabbing an ice cold Antarctica beer and making some rounds. Perhaps, then make my way over to the famous sushi bar and getting two rolls of a salmon and avocado roll. Once finished eating, begin engaging in more drink and more talk. I see myself making a decision around 8-9 PM and heading upstairs. I don't know if Scandallo rooms have showers but if they did, I surmise I would ask my lady of the night if she'd like to join and just do the deed in there.
Afterwards, I see myself exiting before 12 AM when the more unscrupulous gentlemen of SP begin hunting for gringos to take advantage of.
That's how I'm imagining it now. Plans change but I wonder if you were to construct an ideal timeline, what would it be?
Thanks and Godspeed.
J.
Just some random thoughts or comments from some recent posts without quoting the OP, as I am too lazy to do so.
[B]F1 Week[/B]
It was fun to check out Scandallo during F1 week, but for me, it's probably a one and done type of deal. It can become difficult to secure hotels, reservations at hot restaurants, etc. It was disappointing that many of the good late night places (bars, clubs, etc.) were closed due to private parties or lack of interest by regular patrons. Traffic was also noticeably worse while I was in town, which is saying something as Sao Paulo traffic normally gives NYC, DC, LA, etc. Traffic a run for its money.
Admission / consumption at Scandallo for F1 week 2023, Mon to Thurs was R300 before 7 pm all consumption. After 7 pm, it was R500, with R300 for consumption (so same as usual). On Fri and Saturday, it was R300 before 3 pm, all consumption, and after 3 PM, it was R600, with R300 for consumption.
[B]Paying GDP via CC[/B]
Regarding CC payment to a GDP. Not in a million years. Besides the possibility of CC fraud, skimming, etc. , the thought of my real personal info. In the hands of a GDP is a no go. I GDP-proof my room when I bring one back by not leaving any personal info. To hand over my real name (not a big deal as it's basically similar to John Smith) and personal info. And leave a paper trail with them is just too risky, if you value your privacy and discretion. Don't want to be a target of some blackmail scheme.
[B]Paying a GDP before the deed[/B]
Someone else mentioned that country, city, venue, etc. Would dictate whether it's necessary or common to pay first and I agree with them. With that said, it's fortunate that its not the norm in Brazil in almost all venues. I think I might have been asked to pay first in one of the high end clinicas, but I could be wrong. I've only had one boate girl ask for payment up front (out of probably 100+). I flatly told her no, so she left. I probably saved myself from a shitty time, as her whole persona and energy totally changed when I refused to pay upfront. I now make it known during my vetting / interview process that I only pay at the end. I've also had to do the same regarding BBBJ, due to a few instances where I found out the girl only does CBJ.
[B]Scandallo[/B]
As much as I love the place, It can get boring if you go more than 2 or 3 nights a week, especially if you are visiting SP for more than a week or two. You end up seeing mostly the same girls after 3-4 visits. I usually go during the weekdays to meet new girls and then repeat with girls I find special over the weekend, whether I met them on my current trip or from previous trips. They would then act as my tour guide and we would do civilian stuff on the weekends, when Scandallo and other boates are slower or closed.
Wednesdays and Thursdays seem to be the busiest days at Scandallo with the most girls. Those are the nights most locals can use the excuse of a business dinner or night out with the boys. Those are also usually the days that the club hires popular live musical acts and DJs to perform, which also draws a crowd. Weekends are usually reserved for family time or hanging out with friends, so Friday and Saturday are slower. Although I've heard from some that on Saturdays a lot of local Asians attend the club in groups for some reason. Mondays are also slow as it's the start of the workweek. Tuesday can be a bit like Friday and Saturday, but sometimes busy like Thursdays, especially if they have a musical guest.
Also don't discount the daytime / afternoon crew. Some girls prefer to work during the day as they can pretend to be working a regular job and keep their gig more on the down low. It's a more mellow vibe during the day and I've met some amazing girls during the day. A great compromise is to show up at 6 pm and you can see the shift change that occurs at 8 to 10 pm, as girls work 8 hours and daytime girls usually show up between 12 to 2 pm. They tend to be more down to earth and prefer to avoid the nighttime party crowd. You also get the benefit of only having to pay R300, which is all consumption. It's a great time to visit too if you don't plan to party into the night.
When my schedule allows, I like to show up at 5-6 pm to check out the afternoon crowd and then exit around 7 or 8 to go out to dinner. I then would return later at night and not have to pay the admission again and just pay for whatever I consume. As I usually have a bottle waiting for me, my late night consumption on the return visit usually isn't too much.
[B]High end clinicas[/B]
I used to consider them to be a great compromise between regular clinicas and boate girls. The girls are generally hotter on average than regular clinica girls and can be similar to a boate girl. I've also found their service to be on par with most boate girls. However, I'm reconsidering my assessment, as they increased their pricing earlier this year. Now they are almost R800 for the hour. They lose their value if you end up staying more than 60 minutes, as a 90 or 120 minute session can end up costing as much or more than a Scandallo girl.
I am also not a fan of the iPad system, even though the pictures are pretty much representative of the girls, if a tad touched up. Girls with videos do show a better representation of how they look. I was told by management from most of the clubs that I can pick a 2nd girl within 10-15 minutes if I wanted someone else. A local ISG bro mentioned a good tactic of picking 2 girls that he liked and then asking to see both (they come one at a time), before he decided.
I also liked Palm the most from previous experiences. I had one average / okay experience, one good experience and one amazing experience at Palms. My amazing experience at Palms was with probably my favorite clinica girl I've met in SP, but I didn't get a chance to repeat as she only works on Saturdays, when I am usually busy. I had one good experience at Lotus and one very good experience at Oro. I plan to check out Sharon on my next trip, especially as it is very close to one of my favorite regular clinicas, Tangara, which has a very large and diverse lineup and at low end pricing.
The rooms were all very nice in all three that I visited. Very spacious with good lighting and good amenities similar to a 4 to 5 star hotel room / mini suite. Lotus and Oro has a more modern look and Palms has a tropical bungalow feel. All were more than a step up from regular clinica rooms and even the Scandallo rooms.
[B]Boteco Belmonte[/B]
It seems they have 8 locations all over RJ. They even have a location in SP! Their location in Leme also seems to have a great view. It was cool seeing them bring over some of their more popular dishes to tables for you to see and pick. It's a bit like a Rodizio at a Churrascaria, but it's not all you can eat!
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2868473]Hey TJ,
Currently in Sao Paulo for a bit and I do think the R1,000 mark is where most Scandallo girls are at for an hour. I've been able to get a lot of repeats from previous trips at R800-900, but the new ones really don't seem to want to settle for any less. Now I'm at the point where I will never ask their price because I know I'm going to get quoted R1,500 or more. One thing I've considered recently though is that I am arriving earlier in the evening and looking to go upstairs around 11-12, so its very possible those prices might fall off later in the evening. In the next week or two I'll try going later and seeing what prices look like around 2 am, for science.
On that note I've actually found myself frequenting Scandallo much less, because while I ultimately always have a good time the entry fee combined with the higher prices for the girls makes me wonder if I'm better off at Casarao. For reference entry plus drinks tends to run me around R600-R800, then R300 for the hotel, and another R1,000 for the girl. In contrast my Casarao tab is R50-R200, R100 for the hotel, and R600 typically divided between two girls. Funny enough I actually did not like Casarao my first time, but at the urging of other members here I gave it another try and its become my favorite house. The Casarao talent pool has really impressed me lately, and the prices are consistently R300 for a half and R500 for an hour. A few girls had asked for 350 and took 300, and a few have quoted me 250, so while it doesn't hurt to ask here like it might in Scandallo I generally just make my offer and stand firm.[/QUOTE]Casaro sounds like the place then. Is the quality at scandallo that much better than Casaro. I only need to find one hottie every couple days. My 2 or 3 girls a night or over.
[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2868663]Casaro sounds like the place then. Is the quality at scandallo that much better than Casaro. I only need to find one hottie every couple days. My 2 or 3 girls a night or over.[/QUOTE]Lately I find the difference in quality of looks has narrowed a bit between the two, though Scandallo is still the clear winner. Scandallo requires the girls to maintain a strict five day schedule or pay a fine, so there are definitely great looking girls who can't keep that schedule and end up working elsewhere. Of course the absolute knockouts don't care because they make so much the fine is meaningless, but as competition is high even very good looking girls have to worry they'll have a bad night.
Where Scandallo has a definitive edge is quality of service. For me personally, if I was going for only one or two girls a week I would opt for the Scandallo experience (or maybe Bomboa). Casarao is very fast paced, whereas at Scandallo I'll have a good meal, walk around having drinks and scoping out my options, spend an hour or two chatting with a girl and then go have a great fuck. I've definitely had spectacular and passionate sex at Casarao, but its much more of a gamble. I don't mind risking a mediocre experience, because at that price I'll just find someone else for round 2. At Scandallo you're going to have much more time to build a rapport, and ensure a good experience. I've had disappointing sex at Casarao, and in general I am highly selective when it comes to picking girls there. In contrast I can't recall ever having an actual bad experience with a girl at Scandallo. For you I might suggest alternating between Scandallo and Bomboa to see how you like it. Bomboa is definitely more relaxed like Scandallo, and the quality of girls is high both in terms of looks and service. The cost is a bit lower than Scandallo, though not by much. I haven't been this trip yet, but I do plan to go soon to see how it holds up in the current environment.
[B]Socrates[/B]
Thanks for the info about the day shift. I had gone once at 6 but there wasn't anyone in attendance who caught my eye, and the girls I like on the night shift usually aren't on the floor until 9:30-10. I was almost falling asleep waiting, so its good to know I can leave and come back without getting locked into the 200 entry and another 300 in consumables, though in practice I'd probably consume that much anyway between me and a drink or two for the girls. Do you need to do anything special when you leave and return, or do they automatically know when they put your ID into the computer?
[B]Jsmith[/B]
I can't speak to the quality of day shift, but I can tell you that you won't see the best of night shift until 9 at the earliest, and probably more like 9:30-45. In terms of safety, that is a non-issue at Scandallo. I have literally seen a man passed out on a sofa for well over two hours, and nothing happened to him. I was starting to suspect he was dead with as still as he was, so I positioned myself sitting with a girl so that we could verify he did eventually wake up. Also when you take an Uber or Cab to Scandallo you are dropped off and picked up in a semi enclosed area surrounded by staff and security. I have never felt safer at a bar or strip club in my life, and you're equally as safe leaving Scandallo at 12 or 4 am.
The three times I've been to Casarao I saw mostly 6's, some 5's, one or two 7's. Never ever saw a 9 or 10.
I would compare an apple with an apple. Let's say, Scandallo and the classy Cafe Photo (many guys here don't like Cafe Photo, I'm sure), both places have 8's and above. Cafe Photo in less number of course.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2868834]Lately I find the difference in quality of looks has narrowed a bit between the two, though Scandallo is still the clear winner. Scandallo requires the girls to maintain a strict five day schedule or pay a fine, so there are definitely great looking girls who can't keep that schedule and end up working elsewhere. Of course the absolute knockouts don't care because they make so much the fine is meaningless, but as competition is high even very good looking girls have to worry they'll have a bad night.
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I will be in Sao Paulo next week actually arriving Saturday morning 18th. Staying in the Pinheiros area but willing to travel to someone good. My nights will be taken up mostly by several regulars but I am wanting to find a good massage Saturday afternoon, Monday and Friday or the next Saturday / Sunday. By this I mean someone that actually knows what they are doing and can do it well. It is nice to have some teasing and the possibility of intimacy but not necessary.
It is a long shot but thought I would ask on here. I will be searching on my own as well and will report if I find someone.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2868583]Just some random thoughts or comments from some recent posts without quoting the OP, as I am too lazy to do so.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the illuminating report on "Scandalo during F1 week" and High End Clinicas. I look forward to your next SP report.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2868834][B]Socrates[/B]
Thanks for the info about the day shift. I had gone once at 6 but there wasn't anyone in attendance who caught my eye, and the girls I like on the night shift usually aren't on the floor until 9:30-10. I was almost falling asleep waiting, so its good to know I can leave and come back without getting locked into the 200 entry and another 300 in consumables, though in practice I'd probably consume that much anyway between me and a drink or two for the girls. Do you need to do anything special when you leave and return, or do they automatically know when they put your ID into the computer?[/QUOTE]My friends and I do the arrive at 5-6 pm and then leane for dinner at 7-8 pm and return after 10 pm regularly. They know you were there earlier in the day due to your ID.
With that said, we often remind the counter girls when we return later in the night that we were in the club earlier and just came from dinner. We haven't had any issues with extra charge for cover on the return so far, but always good to check your receipts before paying.
One ISG member mentioned earlier this year that they rescinded this leave and return policy, but I've been to Scandallo in 3 subsequent trips and confirmed each time, both in person and via WhatsApp, that the policy is still in effect.
One tactic that my friends and I often do is that we pool our consumption on a bottle each visit before 7 pm (sometimes after 7 pm too). That way, we limit our consumption drinks wise when we return. Bottles are valid for 6 months.
I also went to Bomboa during their "happy hour" for the first time this trip. It is similar to Scandallo's before 7 pm reduced consumption / entry. In Bomboa's case, it is R147 consumption before 3 pm. There were about 15-20 girls during the afternoon during our visit. Not a bad spot to grab lunch and numbers or an afternoon session.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2868876]The three times I've been to Casarao I saw mostly 6's, some 5's, one or two 7's. Never ever saw a 9 or 10.[/QUOTE]Scales are a tricky thing and I frankly don't like using them, but in my entire life I've only ever seen a single 10 in person. I'm probably right around 40 Scandallo visits, and I've only seen a handful of 9's there. There are IMO a lot more pretend 9's, women who can pass for a 9, but really are just good at concealing whatever (minor) physical flaws they have. The magic of Scandallo is that its loaded with 7's and 8's. Also personally I'd almost always rather fuck a 7 or an 8 as I find them to be more fun in bed than the 9's, but that's another discussion.
On a good night, Casarao will have a few 7's and a rare 8 among a sea of 4's, 5's, and 6's. The 7's don't sit around too long, and the 8's vanish if you blink too slow. I spend most of my time there fending off women who think I'm shy rather than picky. Last night at Casarao the girl I went with was an upper 7. I saw her on the floor twice totaling less than ten minutes, and only caught her right as she was about to leave the club. I saw maybe four other 7's in the three hours I was there, and there were easily 100+ girls. If its a bad night like Monday, I don't mind a fun 6 given the price.
For me at least, Casarao is a lot more "work" if you want the quality girls. Scandallo is not, your options for quality girls are abundant. However as I spend months here and look to fuck 4-5 nights a week with some clinica day trips mixed in, Scandallo is really taxing on my budget. Putting in the work at Casarao is worth it for me most of the time, and when its not I go to Scandallo.
Hi Guys,
Can anyone give some advise on the forthcoming visa requirements? I shall be coming to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time around January 20th. I heard they are imposing Visa requirement for those coming after 10th January. Have they already started giving visas? I could not confirm this on any site. I called the consulate in DC but no one ever picks up the phone. Do they have tourist visa on arrival? If they have this option then I can book my ticket without worrying about when they are going to start processing the visas. The other option they may have is EVISA to be applied on line. But I don't see that is open yet. I just can't fathom how long should I wait before I can buy my plane tickets. I was planning to get the visa first and then buy my tickets. I would appreciate any feed back in this matter.
[QUOTE=Wilfred1;2869162]Hi Guys,
Can anyone give some advise on the forthcoming visa requirements? I shall be coming to Sao Paulo and Rio for the first time around January 20th. I heard they are imposing Visa requirement for those coming after 10th January. Have they already started giving visas? I could not confirm this on any site. I called the consulate in DC but no one ever picks up the phone. Do they have tourist visa on arrival? If they have this option then I can book my ticket without worrying about when they are going to start processing the visas. The other option they may have is EVISA to be applied on line. But I don't see that is open yet. I just can't fathom how long should I wait before I can buy my plane tickets. I was planning to get the visa first and then buy my tickets. I would appreciate any feed back in this matter.[/QUOTE]Details were supposed to be rolled out in December. An evisa option was supposedly available.
But as with all things Brazilian. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed back again.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2869343]Details were supposed to be rolled out in December. An evisa option was supposedly available.
But as with all things Brazilian. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed back again.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.ivisa.com[/URL]
These guys are fantastic. I originally purchased my visa through them for a trip in November.
I sent them $102.77, but they told me that they couldn't purchase the visa until 30 days prior to my trip.
Then they told me the visa is not needed until Jan 2024, and that they were sending me the money back.
My understanding is the evisa will be available for application and approval online. There are "facilitator" services advertised online for every country. I find I have to investigate the first few websites that come back as search results before I find one that is legitimate: [URL]https://www.gov.br/mre/pt-br/assuntos/portal-consular/quem-contatar/vistos[/URL].
[QUOTE=Skymusic;2869492][URL]https://www.ivisa.com[/URL]
These guys are fantastic. I originally purchased my visa through them for a trip in November.
I sent them $102.77, but they told me that they couldn't purchase the visa until 30 days prior to my trip.
Then they told me the visa is not needed until Jan 2024, and that they were sending me the money back.[/QUOTE]
I am in Sao Paulo with a Namorada of 15+ years. The truth is that she is OK, but I want some other fun. I was thinking of going to a clinica (telling her I had a work related meeting).
I think a Clinica would be ideal, but since I haven't been to Sao Paulo since November 2019, I forget which Clinica is which! I remember Cesarao and Scandalos, by the way. I have opinions that are probably worthless at this point. I preferred Cesarao because I could hang for hours before making my choice. When I delayed at Scandolos, the garotas began to ignore me. But, I had great times at both places.
For an afternoon sojourn, I was thinking of Taj Mahal or Tangara. I want BBBJ and sex and maybe a massage. I definitely prefer GFE. Indeed, that is the goal. Price is not an issue. I have been to Tangara many times, but again, not since 2019. Am I more likely to get GFE at Taj Mahal? I assume I will get BBBJ at both places- is this true?
[QUOTE=ClinicaVIP;2867580]Check out the best massage clinic in Sao Paulo I was there and I recommend it to anyone going to So Paulo.
[URL]https://clinicavip.com.br[/URL]
Confira tambem o melhor site de comandantes do ABC.
[URL]https://pirigueti.com.br[/URL][/QUOTE]I checked out the site and cannot tell what services are offered. Can you tell us? I am certainly not interested in a massage with a handjob ending. Sao Paulo is mongerers heaven. You got to do better than this.
Now that our folks here are talking lots about Casarao Club, here a video, much better than Google street view because you'll see how it really looks like at night.
[URL]https://youtu.be/561UX7RPpFo[/URL]
We also have a version of the way to Casarao by metro. It will not be on Youtube because there are many people's faces. So it's for individual view only.
The Consolacao metro station is a short walking distance I would make paying a bit more attention late at night because the area is more spicy than others in Sao Paulo.
Feel free to send me a PM.
Note: at the end of the video "Elvi's suspicious minds club remix" on the radio ... super classy Sao Paulo radio
[QUOTE=MamaGuevos;2869700]For an afternoon sojourn, I was thinking of Taj Mahal or Tangara. I want BBBJ and sex and maybe a massage. I definitely prefer GFE. Indeed, that is the goal. Price is not an issue. I have been to Tangara many times, but again, not since 2019. Am I more likely to get GFE at Taj Mahal? I assume I will get BBBJ at both places- is this true?[/QUOTE]You will more likely get BBBJ and GFE at Tangara than Taj Mahal. At TM, it's massage, flip, then depends on the girl, you might get BBBJ but mostly going to be CBJ, and they uses tablet.
I went there 10 years straight and a few other years.
The Government closed all the Brothel and clubs about 7 years ago.
Mostly it is online.
[URL]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/[/URL]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2867552]Here a taxi tour in downtown Buenos Aires. Street walkers mostly.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVk-wHurPBw[/URL][/QUOTE]
Hi everyone new in this forum and as the tittle suggests I will be visiting sao paulo for the first time in a few weeks, in a trip exclusively for mongering after years of hearing wonders of Sp and Brazil in general from friends that have visited before. First of all I would like to thank everyone for their reports, I've read like 50 plus pages and I have find very usefull information.
As mentioned I will be visiting in the end of the month for a few days, anyone down there in those dates is welcome to join me and a friend, that I am going with, for visits to scandallo and other venues hahaha. I am from south america but my english is pretty good so I may be of help translating as portugues is very similar to spanish.
Also I would like to confirm if, as I read in previous reports, the entrance fee for Scandallo of 300 brl before 7 pm is only for the weekdays before Friday and that from Friday to Saturday that fee only applies before 3 pm. I previously had known that the price of the entrance fee of 300 applied to everyday before 7 pm, but I was surprised to read that now is only for Monday-thurs. This is a concern for me because I will be arriving on very early on a Thursday and have booked a well know pornstar / content creator for that day as that day will be the last day of her in SP, and I don't think I have the energy to visit scandallo the same day I arrive very early on the moring and most of all after having hopefully a great fuck earliar in that afternoon. Because of that I was planning to visit scandallo, a must visit aftear reading all the reports, on Friday but I don't want to pay the full entrance fee that I alsa reado is not 500 on Friday but 600 and only 300 on consumables.
That is why I want to confirm if those fees continue to apply or they were F1 week fees?? I those fees maintain I think my friend and I will be force to go before 3 pm and stay there the whole day hahaha.
Once again appreaciate all the help.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2869902]I went there 10 years straight and a few other years.
The Government closed all the Brothel and clubs about 7 years ago.
Mostly it is online.
[URL]http://www.argentinaprivate.com/forum/[/URL][/QUOTE]It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2869788]You will more likely get BBBJ and GFE at Tangara than Taj Mahal. At TM, it's massage, flip, then depends on the girl, you might get BBBJ but mostly going to be CBJ, and they uses tablet.[/QUOTE]I did not try Taj Mahal but Tangara was an awesome experience! DFK / BBBJ /69 complete GFE. Beautiful redhead. 22 years old and totally natural. Name is Lily.
There were a lot of girls! Not all were gorgeous but there was skmeone for every taste. Damage was 190 BRL for about 45 minutes.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2869954]That is why I want to confirm if those fees continue to apply or they were F1 week fees?? I those fees maintain I think my friend and I will be force to go before 3 pm and stay there the whole day hahaha.
Once again appreaciate all the help.[/QUOTE]Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2869988]It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.[/QUOTE]My last visit was 13 years ago. Back then Hook, Cattos, Madahos and Blacks were rocking. Excedra was closed some years before. Hottest providers in the world. Best times in mongering.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2869988]It's crazy to me how little there is in Argentina outside of the online advertisements, not even traditional strip clubs without sex. On my last visit I went to one of the very few clubs, and the door guy told me it was $80 USD to get in. Didn't see any supermodels inside so I turned around immediately. I do need to check out Coccodrillo one day though, maybe there is some hope there.[/QUOTE]The place I believe you're referring to is Delirios in BA
(D' Lirios).
I befriended the head security guy there, and he says the cover charge is "whatever they think they can get out of the particular guy" Lol.
My first time going, they said $100 US cover charge.
I talked them down to $0, lol, saying I would buy a few drinks during the night and give a tip when leaving.
Had a great time and gave the guy $10 leaving.
I continue with the same deal.
Negotiate.
It's Argentina, 😆
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2870200]
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption [/QUOTE]The entry was $R300 before 7pm all consumable for my visit last Saturday (18th Nov).
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2869954]
As mentioned I will be visiting in the end of the month for a few days, anyone down there in those dates is welcome to join me and a friend, that I am going with, for visits to scandallo and other venues hahaha. [/QUOTE]I will be in SP during last week of this month. Hopefully we will meet in one of the venues.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2869954]
Also I would like to confirm if, as I read in previous reports, the entrance fee for Scandallo of 300 brl before 7 pm is only for the weekdays [/QUOTE]Entrance fee yesterday (Saturday) was $R300 before 7 pm same as during week days. That doesn't mean it will not be $R350 or higher next weekend or when during your visit. Like SocratesNY said, they have raised prices many times since the beginning of the pandemic. All the entry fee numbers shared by forum members apply to the days they have visited and they could be same or higher when you visit. Scandallo charges much higher entrance fee (like $R800+ for example )on days they have music or other event. They advertise those events on their website so it is easy to avoid visiting the place. They have one music event on 22nd Nov.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2870200]Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google.[/QUOTE]Thank you SocratesNY, it is a relief to hear that those were only inflated fees due to F1. I will do as you say and contact them thru wsp and ig days before my travel to confirm the fees.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2870285]I will be in SP during last week of this month. Hopefully we will meet in one of the venues.
Entrance fee yesterday (Saturday) was $R300 before 7 pm same as during week days. That doesn't mean it will not be $R350 or higher next weekend or when during your visit. Like SocratesNY said, they have raised prices many times since the beginning of the pandemic. All the entry fee numbers shared by forum members apply to the days they have visited and they could be same or higher when you visit. Scandallo charges much higher entrance fee (like $R800+ for example )on days they have music or other event. They advertise those events on their website so it is easy to avoid visiting the place. They have one music event on 22nd Nov.[/QUOTE]Thank you as well Lalabo for the information as your visit was yesterday is more than reassuring then that the fees are back to normal, but just to be on the safeside as Socrates mentioned I will confirm with them thru wsp. I will be in SP from the Nov 30th to the Dec 3rd. I am planning to visit Scandallo the Friday 1st. I check and those are not hollidays nor are concerts or anything as you mentioned, which is great because I did not check that prior to booking flights and airbnb for this trip.
I will try to activate the Pm function so anyone interested in joining for the adventure can contact me so we can meet up.
P.S.: Just in case anyone here has fucked Luiza marcata known pornstar and content creator, I have seen she have good reviews but it does not hurt if anyone here has fucked her and can tell their experience. I booked her for my first day in sp.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2870269]The entry was $R300 before 7pm all consumable for my visit last Saturday (18th Nov).[/QUOTE]Lalabo could tell us how was Scandallo yesterday? Great as always, regarding the ratio men girls how was it?
[QUOTE=Turgid;2870204]My last visit was 13 years ago. Back then Hook, Cattos, Madahos and Blacks were rocking. Excedra was closed some years before. Hottest providers in the world. Best times in mongering.[/QUOTE]A libertarian elected President of Argentina Milei has nothing against P4 P. Maybe business in CABA would take on his words to be able to 'profit' and bring back the establishments.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2870225]...I befriended the head security guy there...[/QUOTE]Was he a big black dude?
[QUOTE=Balboa;2870225]The place I believe you're referring to is Delirios in BA
(D' Lirios).
I befriended the head security guy there, and he says the cover charge is "whatever they think they can get out of the particular guy" Lol.
My first time going, they said $100 US cover charge.
I talked them down to $0, lol, saying I would buy a few drinks during the night and give a tip when leaving.
Had a great time and gave the guy $10 leaving.
I continue with the same deal.
Negotiate.
It's Argentina, 😆[/QUOTE]That's hilarious, and yes that was the club. They actually talked themselves down a bit before I left, but I tend to assume if the cover is $80 then the girls will be asking for at least that amount. Given that girls from the online ads were costing me $20-$30, I wasn't planning to spend $100+ for similar looking women.
[QUOTE=Questner;2870325]A libertarian elected President of Argentina Milei has nothing against P4 P. Maybe business in CABA would take on his words to be able to 'profit' and bring back the establishments.[/QUOTE]I heard the plan is to switch to the US dollar for Argentina's legal currency. That would get rid of the worthless Argentine peso and help stop the outrageous inflation. And to think that Brazil and Argentina have talked about having a single currency between them. I wouldn't touch a routinely screwed up Argentine economy and bring it into my own, dragging me down with them!
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2870319]Lalabo could tell us how was Scandallo yesterday? Great as always, regarding the ratio men girls how was it?[/QUOTE]Lineup was below par in numbers & beauty.
I am posting a report soon.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2870575]I heard the plan is to switch to the US dollar for Argentina's legal currency. That would get rid of the worthless Argentine peso and help stop the outrageous inflation. And to think that Brazil and Argentina have talked about having a single currency between them. I wouldn't touch a routinely screwed up Argentine economy and bring it into my own, dragging me down with them![/QUOTE]Hopefully they'd try to get more Americans to visit, bring in US currency and thus improve their economy by reopening the clubs, bring back the good old days.
Flew into GRU last Thursday morning. I didn't book roundtrip to Rio as the fares were outrageously expensive like $500+ when I checked before the trip. So I took Uber to Sao Paulo Tiete bus terminal which is on the way to Moema and booked round trip (11/19 - return 11/26) bus ticket with bed for $R600 (you could do it for less than half that price by choosing seat instead). It costs me $120 instead of $500+ had I chose to fly. If couldn't book bus online without CPF, had to go to a bus terminal to book. The air fare was about $900 to Rio for my dates when I checked checked after arriving in SP. I understand there is a Talor Shift's concert this weekend but why the hell the return flight to SP cost $400? I recommend taking BUS when you see crazy airfares between Rio & SP. So far I have used 1001 bus service 5 times and always booked bed (instead of a seat) which is extremely comfortable and I highly recommend.
Casarao (Nov 16):
CBJ infestation finally caught up to me. Not because I didn't make sure the girl does BBBJ but the girl reneged on the agreement.
Got to the club just after midnight. The entry fee with all consumption is now $R60 instead of $R50. I thought the consumable carried forward between exit and reentries but I learned that is not the case. So make sure you consume $R60 before leaving the club with a girl and plan to get back in.
Club was mostly packed when I entered. A tall, cute, petite, pale skinned young girl Isa attracted my attention. I asked about BBBJ and Anal which she agreed to do so we made a deal for $R400 for an hour. As I was about to pay for the room I noticed the receptionist give some kind of signal to Isa who immediately asks me if I would buy her a drink. In Casarao if a girl orders a drink (they tend to order expensive ones) they get a cut so I have decided to not buy drinks at this place especially if a girl asks for it. I declined her offer. I bet the receptionist wouldn't do that with locals. Anyway, Isa has a great tight body and did everything including Anal except BBBJ. When asked about BBBJ she lied about agreeing to it and she always does CBJ. I call BS on that. So, the moral of the story is that at Casarao nogotiating upfront for BBBJ in addition to other services doesn't guarantee you get it. I know this sort of thing can happen at any place. I don't get it. She was ok with DFK, DATY and getting fucked in her tight little asshole but not BBBJ. Maybe somebody told her that she gets pregnant with BBBJ.
Casarao (Nov 17):
Entered the club around midnight. Club wasn't as full as the day before. A young innocent looking girl with typical Brazilian bum for her smaller frame drew my attention. Her name is Larissa, an attractive 18 yo with great body and thunter thighs & rock solid ass. Unfortunately she said no to anal but she was ok with CIM (which is not that common at this place). She said that was her 1st day and I believe she is new to the business or to the club based on her demeanor and behavior during I was with her. I think she has just started this kind of work. She asked for $R600 but finally agreed for $R450 for an hour. Same receptionist at the hotel next door and no signal for drinks this time, maybe because the girl is new or she knows I would say no. I hope it stays that way. Her body I like rock especially her huge (for her body frame) ass and thighs). It was a good session and CIM finish.
Scandallo (Nov 18):
Got to the club at 7 pm on the dot. Entry was $R300 all consumable. There were maybe less than 40 girls and much less men. Number went up during the course of the night but less than typical levels for this place. At 11 pm there were maybe about 100 or so girls. Not lot of pretty girls, mostly average looking ones you can find at Casarao but dressed nicely to Scandallo standards. I spoke to 3 girls and they all happen to be named Ana (20 yo, 23 yo and a 30 yo). That's a first and I doubt it will ever going to happen again. 20 yo cutie started with a very reasonable $R1000 and agreed for $700 for standard service. It was a satisfying typical season.
Leaving to Rio tomorrow and will return to SP next Sunday. I will post reports in Rio forum.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2870560]That's hilarious, and yes that was the club. They actually talked themselves down a bit before I left, but I tend to assume if the cover is $80 then the girls will be asking for at least that amount. Given that girls from the online ads were costing me $20-$30, I wasn't planning to spend $100+ for similar looking women.[/QUOTE]I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Coming from Unfortunately I will not have much time during the week and will be focused more on Saturday and Sunday.
However I've seen that not everything is open on a Sunday.
Going through posts in the forum, I will likely be focussing on clinicas (e. G. Prime), freelancers and maybe one time Casaro, if I can make it.
It also seems the prices there are quite okay.
Anything I need to be aware of as a foreigner (Europe) regarding pricing? (Read something about discounts).
I don't know if my Hotel (or Hotels in general) have issues with girls visiting.
I'd like to avoid issues, due to working.
Probably visiting them is the wiser choice?
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl.
Ideally, if possible, I'd like her to speak English. I only speak a few words of portogese, which I am trying to improve but it won't be more than a few words or phrases here an there:
What is also is very important to me, is to have the feeling the girl is enjoying it as well and that she gives me the feeling to want things to happen. I long for feeling desired. (Single for a while).
I have no enjoyment, if I feel she is uncomfortable. Ideally, she wants to spend time with me afterwards again.
Can you give me some recommendations for girls, clinicas and freelancers? (Also via PM).
I will report my experiences afterwards (or also during the trip), if you wish so.
This is also my first trip as a subbed member and I intend to make my contributions to the forum and all of you awesome members.
How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2870667]Flew into GRU last Thursday morning. I didn't book roundtrip to Rio as the fares were outrageously expensive like $500+ when I checked before the trip. So I took Uber to Sao Paulo Tiete bus terminal which is on the way to Moema and booked round trip (11/19 - return 11/26) bus ticket with bed for $R600 (you could do it for less than half that price by choosing seat instead). It costs me $120 instead of $500+ had I chose to fly. If couldn't book bus online without CPF, had to go to a bus terminal to book. The air fare was about $900 to Rio for my dates when I checked checked after arriving in SP. I understand there is a Talor Shift's concert this weekend but why the hell the return flight to SP cost $400? I recommend taking BUS when you see crazy airfares between Rio & SP. So far I have used 1001 bus service 5 times and always booked bed (instead of a seat) which is extremely comfortable and I highly recommend.
Casarao (Nov 16):
CBJ infestation finally caught up to me. Not because I didn't make sure the girl does BBBJ but the girl reneged on the agreement.
Got to the club just after midnight. The entry fee with all consumption is now $R60 instead of $R50. I thought the consumable carried forward between exit and reentries but I learned that is not the case. So make sure you consume $R60 before leaving the club with a girl and plan to get back in...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2870764]I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Going through posts in the forum, I will likely be focussing on clinicas (e. G. Prime), freelancers and maybe one time Casaro, if I can make it.
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I don't know if my Hotel (or Hotels in general) have issues with girls visiting.
I'd like to avoid issues, due to working.
Probably visiting them is the wiser choice?
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl.
Ideally, if possible, I'd like her to speak English. I only speak a few words of portogese, which I am trying to improve but it won't be more than a few words or phrases here an there:[/QUOTE]Congrats, from your post it looks like you researched your upcoming trip, and you are ready to go into action and have a great time. I wouldn't dream, however, of recommending any specific girls to you because IMHO half the fun is in the hunt and finding a good girl each and every night. It ain't hard. You are dealing with Brazilian girls, the most passionate girls on the planet. GFE, PSE, or just real good sex: it is hard to tell in advance what you are going to get, but that is part of the fun if you ask me.
True story: before my 1st trip to Brazil in April 2021 (during the Covid), a well-known BM pal sent me a private message in which he jokingly offered that if I had one bad session in Brazil, he would pay my tab. Unfortunately, he was right. KKKKKKKKKKK. I did not have 1 bad session during that 1st 6-week trip and I got to say I have had very, very, very few bad ones since then. Brazilian working girls are into sex! So, relax, don't over plan, go with the flow, yada yada, all cliches, Ha Ha, but the bottom line is you are going to have a great time. Stick with clinicas in the afternoon and boates at night and trust your instincts when it comes to picking up right girl.
P.S. Most, if not all hotels in SP are girl friendly. I have never had a problem bringing back girls to any SP hotel that I have booked. Just make sure your reservation is for 2 people.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2870667]Scandallo (Nov 18):
Got to the club at 7 pm on the dot. Entry was $R300 all consumable. There were maybe less than 40 girls and much less men. Number went up during the course of the night but less than typical levels for this place. At 11 pm there were maybe about 100 or so girls. Not lot of pretty girls, mostly average looking ones you can find at Casarao but dressed nicely to Scandallo standards. I spoke to 3 girls and they all happen to be named Ana (20 yo, 23 yo and a 30 yo). That's a first and I doubt it will ever going to happen again. 20 yo cutie started with a very reasonable $R1000 and agreed for $700 for standard service. It was a satisfying typical season.
Leaving to Rio tomorrow and will return to SP next Sunday. I will post reports in Rio forum.[/QUOTE]Great report, hopefully when I visit scandallo it offers better quality and quantity, but I am sure as it will be my first time going it will be amazing for me no matter what, as I have not visited nothing even remote similar to scandallo previously to compared it with, maybe for more experienced visitors after a while the wow factor ends and and they can see more objectevly the regular and the great days at scandallo.
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2870764]I am going to be in SP next week and it is my first time being in Brazil.
Coming from Unfortunately I will not have much time during the week and will be focused more on Saturday and Sunday.
Now what am I looking for?
Girl next doors (natural, not enhanced) and girlfriend experience. DFK with cuddles after the deed, possibly also spending more than 1 hour with a girl..[/QUOTE]For what you mentioned it seems that what you are looking for is more likely you will find it at scandallo or other similar boate. After reading several reports and first hand experiences from friends that have visited, in scandallo you get to talk to the gil buy her a drink or a meal, dance and form a certain bond or intimacy that as you mentioned later can translate in great sex, is not a direct 1 HR quick fuck if you don't want it to be, if you developed a chemistry with the girl she may stick around for more than 1 HR or if you negotiated with her she can stay an overnight at your hotel for several hours. And even maybe if that goes well you can invite her to spend the weekend with you and fuck her the rest of the weekend and have a complete GFE.
That being said I am no expert and I will be having my first trip to SP next week same as you, but from what I've read the clinicas and web freelancers can be great experiences as well, but I think not in the way you are looking for, of a more intimate GFE that does not involve sex right a way after you meet them.
If I were you I would try to go to scandallo or other similar high end boate, where is more likely you can have the kind of experiences you are looking for.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2870870] For what you mentioned it seems that what you are looking for is more likely you will find it at scandallo or other similar boate. After reading several reports and first hand experiences from friends that have visited, in scandallo you get to talk to the gil buy her a drink or a meal, dance and form a certain bond or intimacy that as you mentioned later can translate in great sex, is not a direct 1 HR quick fuck if you don't want it to be, if you developed a chemistry with the girl she may stick around for more than 1 HR or if you negotiated with her she can stay an overnight at your hotel for several hours. And even maybe if that goes well you can invite her to spend the weekend with you and fuck her the rest of the weekend and have a complete GFE.
That being said I am no expert and I will be having my first trip to SP next week same as you, but from what I've read the clinicas and web freelancers can be great experiences as well, but I think not in the way you are looking for, of a more intimate GFE that does not involve sex right a way after you meet them.
If I were you I would try to go to scandallo or other similar high end boate, where is more likely you can have the kind of experiences you are looking for.[/QUOTE]During the week I will very likely not have the option to stay out very late (e. G. Scandallo), so I don't know what good options are for such a scenario. Same is true for Sundays.
From reading the forum I am also far from an expert. Maybe the more experienced part of the community will be able to offer guideance to the novices.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2870807]How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.[/QUOTE]It's about 6 hours. I second the 1001 bus. The easiest way to get the ticket is to go to the station and get it from the computer terminal if there is one or just go to any counters to buy it. I choose the sleeper but it costed around 250 when I bought it from the terminal.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2870807]How long a bus ride is it from Sao Paulo to Rio? There is no wrong or right way to do this. It's all a matter of personal preference. For the extra several hundreds of dollars I would personally substitute a couple of Scandallo and boate visits with Moema clinicas, even if the lineups were not as you put it "weak" in the boates. The good news is bus travel is known to be much safer in Brazil than it is in the Andes.[/QUOTE]Travel time is about 6 hours. The way I see it is little bit over 2 x of air travel time (flight time of 1 HR, get to airport 1-1. 5 hours in advance especially if you have luggage to checkin + waiting for bags at destination). I am never that pressed for time so I have no problem spending 6 hours especially early in the day as I usually don't have any activities planned before noon. So taking an early morning bus and getting to Rio / SP by 2 or 3 pm is perfect for checking into Airbnb. I like the relatively inexpensive travel alternative BUS provides when airfares shoot up. Yes, I would say the BUS travel seens to be safe in Brazil, at least between Rio & SP. I love the ride quality of these buses, very rarely experience road bumps.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2870637]Hopefully they'd try to get more Americans to visit, bring in US currency and thus improve their economy by reopening the clubs, bring back the good old days.[/QUOTE]This is what I'm curious about if they pivot to the dollar.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2870870]Great report, hopefully when I visit scandallo it offers better quality and quantity, but I am sure as it will be my first time going it will be amazing for me no matter what, as I have not visited nothing even remote similar to scandallo previously to compared it with, maybe for more experienced visitors after a while the wow factor ends and and they can see more objectevly the regular and the great days at scandallo.[/QUOTE]It should be fine. Every club has its slow days but a slow day at Scandallo would be lot better than a slow day at other clubs. Hands down it is the (most luxurious) place with such high number of girls I have seen. I would like to know if any other place beats it. I am sure you will enjoy the place.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2871056]It should be fine. Every club has its slow days but a slow day at Scandallo would be lot better than a slow day at other clubs. Hands down it is the (most luxurious) place with such high number of girls I have seen. I would like to know if any other place beats it. I am sure you will enjoy the place.[/QUOTE]I think photo cafe doesn't get enough attention on this thread. I know it doesn't compare in size, ambiance, quantity and variety. But nevertheless its a very nice venue with a high end night club feel, decent restaurant and a high concentration of very beautiful and high-class girls available for takeout. If I had just one day SP, sure Scandallo is the first spot to hit. But if I had two days, Photo Cafe would certainly be next on the list.
That's good to know. That policy made it a lot better and made it more flexible to visit, but ever since hearing that they got rid of that ability to come back. Made it very inconvenient. I'm going to visit that place again and then make sure to ask them if they will allow this.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2870200]Those were elevated and amended F1 pricing / schedule.
Normally it's.
M-F, 300 beforen7 pm all consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Saturday, 350 before 7 pm, 300. Consumption and 500 after 7 pm, 300 consumption.
Basically a 200 cover after 7 pm M-F and on Saturday, it's a 50 cover before 7 and 200 after. It's easy to spend 300 consumption, which you can spend on food, drinks, tobacco products, etc.
But they have raised their cover / min consumption at least 2 x since 2021. So best to just ask them on Whatsapp or IG a week before you arrive. You can find their info on their website. Which you can find via google.[/QUOTE].
This is straight from Scandallo. I am not sure that 50 more in enforced on Saturday as I wasn't changed for extra before but that's what is written.
[QUOTE=FakeIt;2871109]I think photo cafe doesn't get enough attention on this thread. I know it doesn't compare in size, ambiance, quantity and variety. But nevertheless its a very nice venue with a high end night club feel, decent restaurant and a high concentration of very beautiful and high-class girls available for takeout. If I had just one day SP, sure Scandallo is the first spot to hit. But if I had two days, Photo Cafe would certainly be next on the list.[/QUOTE]I have only been to Photo Cafe one time, so I have not yet formed a definitive opinion of the place. Here are some of my 1st impressions: 1. It is nice looking bordello with a Hi class look and feel. 2. No rooms so no room fee. 3. Girls are reasonably attractive and of various shapes, sizes ect, although I did not see any straight out "stunners" when I was there, I did see 3 or 4 girls out of 15 to 20 girls hanging around that were definitely "good looking" enough to want to call over. 4. So obviously, Photo does not have as many girls as Bomboa. 5. Photo is set up more the Bahamas Club in this respect although with a different decor and Bahamas has rooms (and room fees).
My experience at Photo: I arrived around 9:30 pm Wednesday night and got fingerprinted. The 1st girl I called over was a pretty brunette and I liked her, but my interest began to wane when she first quoted me in Dollars. Said she wanted "300" so I agreed to 300 BR. Let's go! That threw her for a second or two and then she said, "Oh, you want to pay in BR" and we got down to a simple price negotiation. She wanted 1500. I smiled and offered 700. She agreed, but then tried to upsell me on buying dinner before we went to my hotel which I was not into, so I ended the interview and found a different girl. The next girl was a very friendly, thin, blond with natural ta ta's and some tattoo work. She did not care about drinks or dinner. We fooled around a little on the outdoor terrace. She quoted me in BR. She asked for 1000. I offered 700. She smiled and kind of pleaded for 800 so I caved LOL. We fooled around in the taxi like teenagers, and I had a great time with her back at my hotel. She was pretty great!
So WIR? Sure, I will give the place another try. The more viable boates with pretty girls the better.
Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do. Some of it had to do with my wingman but here is how it has changed. Every now and then one or two girls will walk through the waiting room and introduce themselves to you. It appears a lot of the arrangements are online with guys scheduling the girl before they arrive at the place. They have two phone numbers with lists, one with client input and one without. I prefer the one without. You can contact them and they will give you the WhatsApp numbers.
Since I have a girl coming in the morning and the one I wanted went to a session shortly after I got there, I declined to partake and went to my apartment. There were several very pretty ones there tonight.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871214]
My experience at Photo: I arrived around 9:30 pm Wednesday night and got fingerprinted. [/QUOTE]This for me is a red flag with Cafe Photo, and the first reason I wouldn't recommend it. I'm personally not all that comfortable with a brothel having my biometric data. The second reason it loses points is their lack of rooms. While I like having girls back to my place, its nice to have the first time be in a more controlled environment. Also as mentioned it has far fewer girls than Scandallo, but with similar prices. IMO all of these factors combine to make it a much less talked about club.
[B] CourteousGuy [/B]
Scandallo would definitely be my recommendation for Saturday, and any other night you can manage it. There are a decent number of girls who speak English, though its still not a ton. If English is a top priority I'd say Bomboa isn't a bad idea, though I'm hesitant to talk someone out of going to Scandallo. At Bomboa you'll get seated by a waiter who will bring you drinks, and my regular guy would always make suggestions for girls and bring them over for me to talk to. When I first started going there he assumed I wanted English speakers, and while it wasn't a big deal for me either way, for you it sounds like it would be easier than Scandallo where you're going to have to pick girls at random and hope for the best. One thing to note is most of the best girls are on the floor by 9-10 pm, so you could conceivably talk to someone for an hour, go upstairs for an hour, and still be back at your hotel by 12:30-1. I don't know if that's too late to be out for your schedule.
On Sunday you're going to have a much harder time, as most of the clubs are closed. Some Clinicas will be open during the day, and while you can definitely have a good time its a quick in / out experience. The girls will typically be passionate and fun, but once your time is up that's it. Tangara and Yankin are my favorites and they both have bars you can hang out at, but without Portuguese you're not going to be able to socialize all that well. Casarao is open and it can get good later, but its fairly dead before 12 am. There are a handful of girls who speak English there as well, but its far fewer than Scandallo. Additionally while they may be flirty and make you feel desirable in the run up to sex, once you're done with the room I wouldn't expect much after that. Casarao being cheaper, the girls typically need to hustle more and see multiple customers, while at Scandallo most girls are fine with just one, and as a result don't mind spending more time with you before / after.
Lastly you might want to consider getting a girls contact information and just planning to spend time with her on Sunday if you're really looking for an experience beyond sex. I've personally found overnights tend to run around 1500-1700, so you could probably arrange a lunch date and afternoon of fun for a similar rate. If you can manage to get out a few times during the week, you can likely find someone who fits your needs well. Hopefully that helps.
It's been this way for at least a couple of years that I'm aware of, and not only at Tangara. Guys call or whatsapp appointments with girls. As you stated, it really limits access to the girls. That's a real problem for guys on a tight schedule who need to squeeze sessions in between business commitments. For me Tangara is still a valuable part of the Vila Mariana triangle with Yankin and the a few doors down the hill from it.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2871363]Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do. Some of it had to do with my wingman but here is how it has changed. Every now and then one or two girls will walk through the waiting room and introduce themselves to you. It appears a lot of the arrangements are online with guys scheduling the girl before they arrive at the place. They have two phone numbers with lists, one with client input and one without. I prefer the one without. You can contact them and they will give you the WhatsApp numbers.
Since I have a girl coming in the morning and the one I wanted went to a session shortly after I got there, I declined to partake and went to my apartment. There were several very pretty ones there tonight.[/QUOTE]
Six hours is not so bad really.
[QUOTE=Lalabo;2870971]Travel time is about 6 hours. The way I see it is little bit over 2 x of air travel time (flight time of 1 HR, get to airport 1-1. 5 hours in advance especially if you have luggage to checkin + waiting for bags at destination). I am never that pressed for time so I have no problem spending 6 hours especially early in the day as I usually don't have any activities planned before noon. So taking an early morning bus and getting to Rio / SP by 2 or 3 pm is perfect for checking into Airbnb. I like the relatively inexpensive travel alternative BUS provides when airfares shoot up. Yes, I would say the BUS travel seens to be safe in Brazil, at least between Rio & SP. I love the ride quality of these buses, very rarely experience road bumps.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2871376][B] CourteousGuy [/B]
Scandallo would definitely be my recommendation for Saturday, and any other night you can manage it. There are a decent number of girls who speak English, though its still not a ton. If English is a top priority I'd say Bomboa isn't a bad idea, though I'm hesitant to talk someone out of going to Scandallo. At Bomboa you'll get seated by a waiter who will bring you drinks, and my regular guy would always make suggestions for girls and bring them over for me to talk to. When I first started going there he assumed I wanted English speakers, and while it wasn't a big deal for me either way, for you it sounds like it would be easier than Scandallo where you're going to have to pick girls at random and hope for the best. One thing to note is most of the best girls are on the floor by 9-10 pm, so you could conceivably talk to someone for an hour, go upstairs for an hour, and still be back at your hotel by 12:30-1.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Info JZeleznik!
I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).
Is there like an option at Scandallo or even at Casaro to have the room longer (and at what price?) or do you usually then head out to your hotel?
I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?
I will also put Bamboa on my list, as it sounds like an easy option to talk to a few english speaking girls.
Tangara is on my list already and I will add Yankin then.
Sunday might be rough yes. If I am unlucky, I will give escort (maybe via photoacomp) a shot.
I think I will need to go to all locations via Uber or Taxi, as I've heard some areas might not be the safest to walk around alone.
Kind regards,
C.
Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb, and it deterred me from going there for a longtime, but I eventually caved out of curiosity and I will have to live with the risk. But like I said in my previous post, Bahamas is a very similar type of boate. The main difference is Bahamas has rooms and the only entry requirement is your driver's license. So, if you are seeking a smaller, Hi class, boate experience, then either Bahamas or Cafe Photo would have what you are looking for.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2871376]This for me is a red flag with Cafe Photo, and the first reason I wouldn't recommend it. I'm personally not all that comfortable with a brothel having my biometric data. The second reason it loses points is their lack of rooms. While I like having girls back to my place, its nice to have the first time be in a more controlled environment. Also as mentioned it has far fewer girls than Scandallo, but with similar prices. IMO all of these factors combine to make it a much less talked about club. [/QUOTE]No rooms are a plus and a minus depending on how you look at it. As I pointed out in my previous post, no rooms mean no room or exit fees. That is a good plus. But like you, I have grown used to the SP Boate in-house way and now I prefer doing my "new" boate girls in the boate first. Then if we click, I will get her WhatsApp number and we will start to see one another at my hotel.
But, preferring in-house Boate sessions with my first time boate girls is not a security issue for me. It is more like the idea of having a good time spending a night out at a boate doing boate things; like looking around / checking out the girls, having a couple drinks, an audition or two if needed, boom boom upstairs, dinner afterwards, and then depending on how one feels, there is always the possibility of having another girl to round out the evening. So, I love spending the night at my 2 favorite boates; Scandallo & Bomboa.
That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2871363]Just a little FYI. Might help someone. I just returned from Tangara. It has changed from when I first started going in 2017. At that time all the girls would come through the waiting room on a rotation. If you wanted them to they would sit with you for a while and you could discuss the weather or the services they were willing to do.[/QUOTE]I haven't really noticed much of a change to Tangara's operation. There are still usually 2 gerentes on shift and I have always been shown the lineup of all the available girls. Never had a problem whenever I ask to talk to the girls about their services. Because it can get quite busy there, its best to go when you are not in a hurry and willing to wait for 1 hour or more. That way if the girl you like gets taken, you can then ask to be the next one up. Just don't expect you will get the girl you want as soon as you walk in. Another strategy is to scout beforehand, take note of the girl (s) you want to do, then keep an eye on their daily whatsapp status to schedule for an appointment ahead of time.
At Yankin, which I consider to be the sister clinica of Tangara, things are not as organized. They can be even more busier than Tangara and therefore the gerentes aren't always attentive to the clients simply because they are either busy answering phones or coordinating sessions. Here, the gerents aren't going to actively come up to you to ask if you have an appointment, offer the presentation or asking you which girl (s) you liked in the presentation. Bottom line is, time and patience is a must at any clinica.
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2871445]I will give Scandallo a shot if I can manage it. From what I've read the going rate there is around 700 ish, which makes me lean towards overnigjt / longer service in general. (No time pressure, getting to know her better).[/QUOTE]But if you never met a particular girl before, and you do not know how well the two of you are going to relate, how do you know you want to go LT with her? I would rather stick around the club and have two sessions with 2 different girls.
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2871445] I assume most of everything is paid via credit card, aside from the girls. How much money do you usually bring to such a night out? (Is it unwise to bring all cash?[/QUOTE]I always use CC's to pay the Boate tab and hotel charge and I usually bring 1000 to 1200 BR cash with me to Scandallo just in case I start flirting with a Tier 1 girl, ha ha, and decide she is the one. I usually bring 800 BR to Bomboa and only 600 BR to Casarao. But here is the beauty of the boate system: let's say I go to Scandallo some Thursday night around 9:30 pm with 1200 BR and a credit card in my wallet. My 1st session for 800 BR with a real nice girl next door type was very passionate so I invite the girl to dinner. After dinner we part company and I wander around and in a little while I spot a pretty spinner sitting all alone. I say Hi and yada yada yada we are having a good time near the back of the outdoor patio bar. I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
P.S. Sundays and National holidays are no problem for me. I always set aside these slow nights for Valeria, my current favorite Brazilian girl and a few other top contenders.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871513]
That said, I don't have a problem with no room venues. It is a different set up that is all. I have been taking bar girls & go go girls back to my hotel room for 25 years. Only on very rare occasions have I had a service problem with a girl, and I show her the door, but other than that, I have never had a serious problem bringing a "new" girl back to my place. The key here, as far as boate girls are concerned, is that a Boate girl has a known identity, so she would have to be out her mind to try something criminal on a new customer in his hotel room. So, it is a very rare event. Still, it is a really good idea to lock up all valuables before going out. KKK.[/QUOTE]Boate girls have a known identity, yes, that may be true. I live in SP and I've noticed this trend happening to associates in town for maybe a week or two on business. They'll hook up with a boate girl at the boate, and find a regular. Later they arrange for the girl to come over to their place. Once there they'll drug you or in the case of a friend, knock you over the head with a blunt object. Then they rob you of your laptop, mobile, clothing, cash, or anything of value.
The victim will call the cops, but they do nothing. The victim goes back to the boate to complain about the girl. Management will say she was working independently and there's nothing they can do. In actuality, it was a setup from the jump and the house gets a cut.
Cheers, stay toxic my friends!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871513]Yeah, Cafe Photo's fingerprint entry requirement is dumb.[/QUOTE]You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.
Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2871585]You can decline fingerprint. They said they want to do it so it's faster to check people in, but you just tell them you don't want to do it and show them your ID.[/QUOTE]I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?
[QUOTE=RioFan1;2871600]Since first week of November (for formula 1), Cafe Photo has the rooms available inside. When you walk from the corridor to enter you have club reception on the left (as before) and hotel reception on the right. The cost for room fee is 350 reais x hour (more than in Scandallo, now fixed at 300 reais x h). The rooms are a bit smaller than Scandallo room but still very confortable (TV screen were still missing but guess will be installed soon in each room).
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.[/QUOTE]A very interesting update, Rio. The problem with Cafe Photo's new business strategy of charging customers more (1. The new room or exit fee 300 and 2. The latest avg price for boom boom 1000 although the 200 increase since I was there might be due to F1 _ I don't know) is that it makes a visit to Cafe Photo more expensive than say a visit to Scandallo limiting one's selection to only Scandallo girls of similar quality to the girls at Cafe Photo ie well dressed, tier 2 type girls. So, in effect for similar quality, Cafe Photo is pricing their product and services above those at Scandallo. Good luck with that.
But maybe the management knows something not mentioned so far in the discussion. Location, Location, Location. A lot of businessmen stay in those 4* & 5* hotels near or on Av. Das Naes Unidas in Brooklin. An Uber from the Hilton to Cafe Photo takes 10 to 15 minutes at 9 pm whereas an Uber from the Hilton to Scandallo usually takes 30 to 40 minutes. I would do the Scandallo trek 29 out 30 times, but I am sure there are businessmen staying around Av. Das Naes Unidas who are tired, bored, and don't want to take a long taxi ride just to get a little something before going to sleep.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871619]I discussed the fingerprint issue with the manager when I first arrived at Cafe Photo back in June 2023 and I offered him my ID, but he said the fingerprint method was faster and better for subsequent visits and he insisted on my fingerprint for this visit. I thought he was talking total bull crap at the time, so it would not surprise me if Cafe Photo has dropped their very dumb entry requirement. I am sure it has hurt business. Can anyone confirm FlowStates reported change in Cafe Photo's entry requirement?[/QUOTE]I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;2871600]Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.[/QUOTE]I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.
[QUOTE=FlowState985;2871709]I was there in late Sept / early Oct. I didn't have to do fingerprint and so was two other peoples I was with.[/QUOTE]Good info. Thanks.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2871725]I was surprised to hear someone put Bahamas Club on par with Cafe Photo. In my opinion Scandallo is in a league of its own followed by Cafe Photo and Bomboa. Then Connection Nightclub next, followed by Bahamas Club and Casaroa both being on the same level in terms of quality of girls, luxury, comfort, etc. Well Bahamas Club may be more comfortable than Casarao actually, but I didn't see any girls I liked at either establishment, whereas the others never failed in that regard.[/QUOTE]This is an excellent example of YMMV. I started going to Bahamas last year when one of my Scandallo girls texted me that she had just started to work at Bahamas and asked if I would come by to see her. This girl is a very tall 6 ft, slender blond, with a very pretty face, and she is simply fantastic in bed. I did not pay much attention to the other Bahamas girls when I would visit, but a few of them looked session worthy to me hence my opinion.
My favorite Boates are 1. Scandallo and 2. Bomboa. I have never been to Connection. I really should go! And I like Casarao, but usually I can't wait until midnight, so I end up going somewhere else earlier.
Hi Folks, now that everyone is talking about Cafe Photo from long time, we can show you how exactly looks like the way from Dorado Shopping area to Cafe Photo by Uber. A very short trip.
[URL]https://youtu.be/CpMlscdOtaA[/URL]
The thing is Cafe Photo has wealthy locals as clients, and as someone has just mention, Cafe Photo can be compared to Scandallo or Bomboa that are apples. But not to Casarao or Bahamas that are much more like potatoes.
If you hit the place after midnight you can be very disappointed 'cause you'll find an empty place. You'll find the talent in a very narrow early time frame. Mostly around 10 pm and 12 pm.
The uber driver was kind of surprised i was going to Cafe Photo ... very fun conversation at the end of the video. Send me a PM if you have questions.
Hello everyone, as I mentioned in my previous posts next week I will be venturing to SP finally and I have noticed and slight inconvenience with my airbnb. I was planning to visit Scandallo early to chill for a couple of hours with my buddy see the talent and then at around 11-12 pick our girls, invite them a couple of drinks and hopefully after a couple of hours of having a nice time getting to know each other, I manage to negotiate the girl for a "pernoite"/ overnight for would I hope be a reasonably price R1200-R1500 max.
Now the problems is that I just realize my airbnb doesn't allow visits if they are not registered before hand with the owner and I believe even requiring to paying a fee for the visit if they stay overnight. Obviously that is a big issue if a try to bring a random girl around 2 am. I don't believe I could be able to sneak a girl from the doorman and even worse at that hour and also I don't want to get in trouble with the management and get kick out or worse.
So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.
I decided to try to get a "pernoite"/ overnight deal as it seems to be the best bang for your buck that you can get as the girl will spend with you in worst case scenario 3-4 hours and up to 10-12 hours if there is chemistry and a good vibe acording to past reports I've read, for 30% or max 50% more than the 1 hour rate.
Once again appreciate the support.
[QUOTE=RioFan1;2871600]
Now if you want to take out the girl is still an option but you have to pay the exit fee (about 350 reais) which was not due before because of room's absence.
Girls were about 80+ and on average they start from 1,5 k reais and down to 1 k after negotiation.
Bahamas is far behind in term of number of girls, luxury, and beautiness. Of course is cheaper.[/QUOTE]I was considering visiting the place after few members confirmed that finger printing is now optional. But with their room, entry & exit prices and most importantly not so high talent numbers makes Scandallo a better place to visit.
I have visited Bahamas once, disappointed with quality & number of girls present. No plans to visit the place again. I prefer Casarao over Bahamas.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871555]But if you never met a particular girl before, and you do not know how well the two of you are going to relate, how do you know you want to go LT with her? I would rather stick around the club and have two sessions with 2 different girls.
That is of course a fair point. I guess I will just have to go by how I feel and how she is.
I always use CC's to pay the Boate tab and hotel charge and I usually bring 1000 to 1200 BR cash with me to Scandallo just in case I start flirting with a Tier 1 girl, ha ha, and decide she is the one. I usually bring 800 BR to Bomboa and only 600 BR to Casarao. But here is the beauty of the boate system: let's say I go to Scandallo some Thursday night around 9:30 pm with 1200 BR and a credit card in my wallet. My 1st session for 800 BR with a real nice girl next door type was very passionate so I invite the girl to dinner. After dinner we part company and I wander around and in a little while I spot a pretty spinner sitting all alone. I say Hi and yada yada yada we are having a good time near the back of the outdoor patio bar. I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
P.S. Sundays and National holidays are no problem for me. I always set aside these slow nights for Valeria, my current favorite Brazilian girl and a few other top contenders.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the pointers. Moneywise it sounds like a reasonable approach and I will likely copy it.
Current list / plan:
Clinicas:
Tangara & Yankin.
Boate / Clubs:
1 x Scandallo, maybe Bamboa & Casaro.
Escorts & independents:
If time is short, I have found 2 or 3 who seem to be very much to my liking. Tempted but I'll see if it will haben.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2871877]Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.[/QUOTE]Not an expert on love motels but you can try the Queen's Motel (Rua Baronesa de Bela Vista, 101 - Aeroporto) It's right next to Congonhas airport with rooms starting at R110 for pernoite. Good luck with you first adventure in SP! Looking forward to reading your reports.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2871877]Now the problems is that I just realize my airbnb doesn't allow visits if they are not registered before hand with the owner and I believe even requiring to paying a fee for the visit if they stay overnight. Obviously that is a big issue if a try to bring a random girl around 2 am. I don't believe I could be able to sneak a girl from the doorman and even worse at that hour and also I don't want to get in trouble with the management and get kick out or worse.
So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Once again appreciate the support.[/QUOTE]I suspect if you go have a talk with the doorman ahead of time, he would most likely allow you and your girl in. As long as you don't get reckless with it.
Just tell him you'd like to spend a night with a girl you really. He'll probably tell you it's fine before you complete your sentence.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2871877]...
So what I was planning to do was to go to a lovel motel / hotel with the girl if they agree for a pernoite, spend the night with her and after having breakfast return to my airbnb. The idea would be that my buddy and I manage to get both of us a girl for a pernoite and both couples go to the same love motel just so we can stay close by and have each others back in case we need it.
Sorry for the long preview but what I would appreciate from you guys is a recommendation for a lovel motel that is not to expensive R100-200, good decente quality and in a safe neighborhood preferably close to Moema, Vila Olimpia or Itaim Bibi.....[/QUOTE]I think you can consider spending more for love motel, for the experience. You will have more fun with a nicer motel. I have not been to one for a while. I only remember Lush which I think is not far from Scandallo. If I had my buddy with me, I would look for one with connecting rooms, jacuzzi, pool or striper pole. I have never been to one in Sao Paulo that is less than 300. You do need to be careful with what the girl wants to order as the cost will add up quickly.
This is from the Cafe Photo opening date that I took a bunch of photos to share with others on WhatsApp. Similar layout to the old one but I like the old one better, it seemed more spacious.
Someone was asking Sunday options and obviously getting a girl from earlier in the week to go out is a great idea if you snag one. But don't forget Seeking Arrangements. It's of course best in countries that don't have amazing Boates etc. But can def work in Brasil as well. I had an AMAZING date on a Sunday in Rio. A true 9. 5 and a great 3 HR date for R400.
Haven't done SP but just browsed and plenty of hotties. Of course Seeking is a bit different than other approaches. But great fun if you like a real date. There's a whole thread on Seeking under General / dating services if you need any help navigating it.
Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. I have not found the right search term to answer my questions. I'm planning my 2nd trip to Brazil. Though I'll spend most of the time in Rio, from what I've read my life will be incomplete without a visit to Scandallo.
1-What is the dress code? Obviously they sell it as sophisticated. Would I be considered a slob in a nice pair of jeans and a button down shirt?
2-I read alot about "consumption" at various boates. I also read about decent food options. Can someone explain the door fee? Specifically at Scandallo. I'm wondering if you receive any part of that door fee in the form of credit for either drinks or food?
I'm going to go ahead and budget 2. 500 BRL and think that'll give me a good shot at a decent night.
Thanks in advance!
Ran across this map while planning a trip and found it amusing and somewhat useful for getting a general lay of the land.
[URL]https://hoodmaps.com/sao-paulo-neighborhood-map[/URL]
Also interesting commentary for other hobby destinations around the world. Would enjoy hearing the communities input on its accuracy.
Sounds like some American kid made it.
[QUOTE=MaxMojo;2872376]Ran across this map while planning a trip and found it amusing and somewhat useful for getting a general lay of the land.
[URL]https://hoodmaps.com/sao-paulo-neighborhood-map[/URL]
Also interesting commentary for other hobby destinations around the world. Would enjoy hearing the communities input on its accuracy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2872343]Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. I have not found the right search term to answer my questions. I'm planning my 2nd trip to Brazil. Though I'll spend most of the time in Rio, from what I've read my life will be incomplete without a visit to Scandallo.
1-What is the dress code? Obviously they sell it as sophisticated. Would I be considered a slob in a nice pair of jeans and a button down shirt?
2-I read alot about "consumption" at various boates. I also read about decent food options. Can someone explain the door fee? Specifically at Scandallo. I'm wondering if you receive any part of that door fee in the form of credit for either drinks or food?
I'm going to go ahead and budget 2. 500 BRL and think that'll give me a good shot at a decent night.
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]1. No really serious dresscode, jeans with shirt and nice shoes sounds perfect. Just done come in a suit LOL. Jeans + some nice t shirt without any graphic would also be totally fine.
2. Speaking of weekdays, it's 300 brl entry before 7 PM, it's all consumable (you receive card and pay when leaving). After 7 PM entry 500 brl, and 300 of it consumable.
[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2872343]Gentlemen, forgive the somewhat amateurish questions. [/QUOTE]There appear to be no strict dress code. There are many local Asians frequent this place. I have seen some dressed like they are going to a neighborhood grocery store. Jeans and shirt is fine.
The 500 is the entry cost, 300 of it can be used to pay for most things except the hotel and the girl. Casarao has a dry entry of 30. You don't have to buy drink after that. But if you pay 50, the you get 2 free beers or drinks of equal cost. Someone posted Casarao has raised the entry cost to 60 now.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2872420]There appear to be no strict dress code. There are many local Asians frequent this place. I have seen some dressed like they are going to a neighborhood grocery store. Jeans and shirt is fine.
The 500 is the entry cost, 300 of it can be used to pay for most things except the hotel and the girl. Casarao has a dry entry of 30. You don't have to buy drink after that. But if you pay 50, the you get 2 free beers or drinks of equal cost. Someone posted Casarao has raised the entry cost to 60 now.[/QUOTE]As always, Nounce, you are a very helpful member of this community. I thank you. I thought about Casaro and at least for now, I'm planning a 1-day trip to SP (from Rio) just to check Scandallo off my list. I've read alot of positives about Casaro so I'm considering maybe 2 days would be worth it.
Thanks again!
Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.
Arrived at 11:30 pm on Sunday, after a nice dinner with mucho vino. The entry had two options. I went with the 400 real option as it would go towards food / drink / room discount. At no time did I need to get fingerprinted or show an ID.
Upon entry, there are at least 50 women and maybe 10 guys. The place itself is quite modern and even has a second level below that wasnt even being used. Outside smoker area as well.
I chatted with one chica at first. Gorgeous body in some sexy lingerie. She had some nice implants but I could tell she was older and she wasnt shy to say that she worked there for 6 years. I eventually ditched her and chatted with another who gave me a tour of the entire club. She eventually wandered off or maybe I did. At this point it's about 12:30 am and I am throwing down drinks when a gorgeous blonde sits down next to me. She was 29, fit, with some serious bolt on tits. She also wasnt wearing any panties in her cute short skirt outfit. That's the way to my heart. After some small talk, I asked her how much to go to a room for an hour. I honestly expected her to say some silly Scandallo price but she said 600 Real. I didn't even feel like negotiating as that seemed fair for her at that time. I confirmed she did BBBJ and off we went to the desk to pick up some garbage condoms and then to a room. The room was VERY VERY nice. Mirrors on all sides as well as the ceiling. Bathroom was in great shape but we didn't even shower until after. Just straight to getting naked with tongues wandering all over each other haha. It was a fun hour with a huge pop all over her tits. Her BJ skills were full of enthusiasm but they really didn't do much for me.
They knocked on the door at least 15 minutes before the hour was up. Kinda lame and a mood killer.
After our session, her and I shared a plate of food and swapped IG info and the club was pretty much dead dead by 2/2:30 am.
Overall, the women looked ok at Bahamas. I would say there were 3 that were HOT 8/9. I got lucky with mine as I hadn't seen her all night. So either she was up in a room when I arrived or just got to the club and I was the first one she approached. The majority of the women were older, single moms, or just a bit thicker than I like.
Taco.
3 Days in Sampa. Stayed near Moema train station. Very central. Walked to the Ibirapuera Mall, Clinicas, Strip Club, Faria Lima area (during daytime). Super short Short taxi ride to Bomboa & Bahama (night time so didn't walk). Cafe Photo is closed, BTW.
Clinicas & privees are the best feature of the city. Decent prices, great variety, tremendous service. And they are dispersed throughout the city so that you can stop by one after whatever daytime activity you just completed (assuming you have "the map" with all the locations already pinned). BRL 300-400 for an hour in a super clean facility with hot water in the spacious bathrooms. Masajistas have absolutely no limits. In between pops she gave a great massage. Repeated visit to the same clinica 2 days later and selected a different masseuse. After we began I decided to added an extra pair of hands. Masajista #1 (mid 20's Brazilian) would only work with one specific other masajista--a tall all-natural Japanese in her low 30's. Best $150 I ever spent.
Casaro and the club beside it were a lot of fun to drink & laugh and ogle the girls but the expense of pulling one out didn't seem worth it to me compared to the clinicas.
Skipped Scandallo as I had been there on a previous trip and didn't want the loudness. Also its pretty far out of the way from Moema and traffic is ridic. Met another traveler who likes to go there in the afternoon and enjoy the vibe as it gets increasingly more raucous.
3 Days in Guaruja.
90 minutes in an Uber to the beach. USD 40 cost. Rain killed my ability to hike or surf so resorted to their local online service for independents (called 'acompanhantes') to order incall. Pinged three. One never responded until the next day, One responded right away but ghosted after I shared my address. And the 3rd responded after an hour and was only a 10 min way away. She's staying in a house with three other vendors. Paid BRL 400 for 2 hours. Swam in the pool (in the rain) with her in between cups. Super fun, girl next door vibe but, again, had no restriction on what you wanted to do with her. Met her and two her 'roommates' the next day on the beach. Considered bringing all three back to the hotel (they were down for it) but decided to rest up for my return trip home.
Overall Verdict.
Medium. Sao Paulo is way more expensive than Medellin or DR. Also I speak Spanish but not Portuguese and very few spoke much English so it was pretty difficult to communicate the way I could in spanish-speaking Latam. Sampa traffic really makes getting around a drag and I was getting a bunch of cancellations on Uber when I tried to use (although I would eventually get a driver to show up). Guaruja was OK but not explicitly worth a trip (maybe if I had better weather.). Bottom line, if you are in the area for business, you can have a great time. But I would not recommend making a specific trip all the way to Sao Paulo as the return on investment is way lower than Rio or Medellin or Panama.
Sorry to be a bit vague. DM me for more specifics.
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2872565]Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.
Arrived at 11:30 pm on Sunday, after a nice dinner with mucho vino. The entry had two options. I went with the 400 real option as it would go towards food / drink / room discount. At no time did I need to get fingerprinted or show an ID.
Upon entry, there are at least 50 women and maybe 10 guys. The place itself is quite modern and even has a second level below that wasnt even being used. Outside smoker area as well.
I chatted with one chica at first. Gorgeous body in some sexy lingerie. She had some nice implants but I could tell she was older and she wasnt shy to say that she worked there for 6 years. I eventually ditched her and chatted with another who gave me a tour of the entire club. She eventually wandered off or maybe I did. At this point it's about 12:30 am and I am throwing down drinks when a gorgeous blonde sits down next to me. She was 29, fit, with some serious bolt on tits. She also wasnt wearing any panties in her cute short skirt outfit. That's the way to my heart. After some small talk, I asked her how much to go to a room for an hour. I honestly expected her to say some silly Scandallo price but she said 600 Real. I didn't even feel like negotiating as that seemed fair for her at that time. I confirmed she did BBBJ and off we went to the desk to pick up some garbage condoms and then to a room. The room was VERY VERY nice. Mirrors on all sides as well as the ceiling. Bathroom was in great shape but we didn't even shower until after. Just straight to getting naked with tongues wandering all over each other haha. It was a fun hour with a huge pop all over her tits. Her BJ skills were full of enthusiasm but they really didn't do much for me.
Taco.[/QUOTE]Nice reporting on Bahamas. Have you visited any new clinicas or boates? Guys, Are you allow to take the chik out of these clubs??
What would be the fine?
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2872659]Nice reporting on Bahamas. Have you visited any new clinicas or boates? Guys, Are you allow to take the chik out of these clubs??
What would be the fine?[/QUOTE]A source I consider reliable posted this last month:
Bargain newcomer in Vila Mariana.
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies by hanging around Tangara and Yakin in Vila Mariana and only occasionally going "upmarket" in Moema. The last time I was in town I was pleasantly surprised by the recently opened Clinica Zeus (they presumptively call themselves Zeus Prive). I think they have the right to the Prive claim because most of the space is in fact bar, lounge and reception with only 4 small rooms upstairs. It's just down the street from Yankin at Doutor Jose Queiroz Aranha 214. I stumbled on it when I was scrolling gp-guide before my last trip. The reviews were promising but I didn't have my hopes up very high. I decided to pull the trigger when the girl I wanted to see at Yankin didn't show up for work that day. Probably because they only opened last summer the public and session areas are noticeably nicer than Yankin or Tangara. They are on par with mid range Moema places like Red Massegems and Miruna 644. Rooms have TVs, not that I would ever turn one on. There is a comfortable lounge area with booths where I cheapskate like me can pretend he is in Scandallo or Casarao LOL! The small bar is comfortable and well stocked. The prices relative to the girl quality is highly competitive. I rate the girls on par with the 140 BRL-30 min /190 BRL-60 min staff at Tangara and Yankin, but the price is 100 BRL-30 min /180 BRL 60 min. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2871555]I want her and she wants 800. I only have have 400 left. No problem. I charge 400 to the CC, but I make sure to do this as we are leaving. I will never pay a boate girl in advance.
[/QUOTE]Hey Axel, have you done this recently? I was told maybe two months ago that their credit card minimum was now R1,000. Previously I had paid many girls R800 on the card, but I switched exclusively to cash after that. I'm wondering if I was misinformed, or if the policy was rolled back.
[B]Week in Review[/B]
I had an interesting week in town so I figured I'd report on the details, especially since there seems to be a lot of activity on the board recently. I've been hitting Casarao hard lately, typically 4-5 nights a week and two girls a night. I didn't visit the Clinicas as I normally do because of that, though after viewing some of their recent additions on the WhatsApp feed, I think I will have to change that. Anyway:
[B]Casarao[/B]
I typically make my way there for 11:45 as of late, and even at that hour it is often a little empty. Entry is I believe R30, or R50 consumable. Two beers runs me R50 anyway, so I always take that option, though on the weekends I think it is R65 (I'm not sure if the additional R15 is consumable, for $3 I really haven't bothered to check). I found an amazing looking half German girl early in the week with perhaps the prettiest face I have ever seen in the club. Strawberry blonde hair, that slight Brazilian tan, and unbelievable blue eyes. She was 21 and brand new to Casarao, and only in town visiting for the week. I asked her how much for a half hour, and to my shock she quoted R250. Needless to say I saw her several times that week, and she was easily the highlight. I've decided that it is always better to ask the girl here for her price, as a fair number will quote R250 for the half hour, and even in the rare instance they quote you R350 or R400, they will almost always settle for a counter offer of R300. Aside from my all-star, I met a short and slim girl on Saturday with a very pretty face, perfect huge natural tits, and an amazing attitude in the bedroom. I tried to see her again on Sunday, though I can already tell she is a bit flakey. The rest of the week was filled with a mix of repeats, and decent but not spectacular first times. Sunday while I was waiting for the flakey girl, and I saw an absolute knockout walk past me. We made eye contact and smiled, but I didn't pursue and regretted it all night. She made it not five feet past me before someone scooped her up, and 15 minutes later she was gone. I only saw her once more, as she was headed out the door with someone else. The Casarao prices being what they are, if you see someone you like I wouldn't hesitate. Even if they aren't so great, its not like you're out a ton. I've definitely noticed that there are a bunch of girls new to the scene who get their start at Casarao, so there are absolutely some hidden gems to be had if you put in the time.
[B]Casarao Cons:[/B] I definitely have a preference for Casarao now, but I wanted to highlight some of the more obvious downsides for first timers. The first is space, seating is incredibly limited and typically it is standing room only. Getting drinks and moving about can be challenging, especially as the night goes on. With that in mind and because it is one of the cheaper establishments, some of the other clients can be rude. I'm a fairly big guy and I get shoved regularly by people. That said I don't see any hostility besides the moderate rudeness, so it's not like I feel unsafe. The other con is hygiene. The rooms are not thoroughly cleaned, especially not when its busy. The girls I pick are usually pretty good with their personal hygiene, but I have been shocked by a few here. Lastly while I personally like girls with a few tattoos, you'll see a lot of girls here with massive ugly tattoos.
[B]Scandallo[/B]
I popped into Scandallo on Thursday night, IMO typically the prime night for the club. I sat down for dinner, and it was spectacular. The food here really is impressive, and while I won't gorge myself I always love to grab a light meal and sometimes a snack a bit later. I start to make my rounds, and things are a little tight as they have live music going and its lightly raining outside which in turn limits the patio seating. I see a few girls who I have been with before, but aside from them nobody new was jumping out at me. For whatever reason the girls had a "harder" look if that makes sense, slightly older and with more work done than I have come to expect. Those girls are always present in the club, but typically there is a balance of newer and more natural ones too. I contemplate going for a repeat, but decide against it and call it an early night. I was intrigued by two girls I saw in the lobby on my way out, but they were in the process of leaving with someone. It's entirely possible that if I had stuck around longer I would have seen some girls more my taste, but with the tighter seating I didn't have it in me to hang out for hours. Despite the music event, it was still the usual R500 min with R200 of that being the cover.
I plan to make another run at Scandallo tomorrow (Tuesday), hoping for better results. As much as I love finding those gems at Casarao the environment definitely wears on me, especially when compared to Scandallo. If I can get around to it, I'll likely go earlier to try and double dip with the day shift trick. Have fun everyone!
[QUOTE=Tacoma101;2872565]Bahamas Club. Sao Paulo. Been meaning to check this place out as I heard it was good for a Sunday night. Here's how my night went.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2872686][B]Week in Review[/B]
I had an interesting week in town so I figured I'd report on the details, especially since there seems to be a lot of activity on the board recently. I've been hitting Casarao hard lately, typically 4-5 nights a week and two girls a night. I didn't visit the Clinicas as I normally do because of that, though after viewing some of their recent additions on the WhatsApp feed, I think I will have to change that. [/QUOTE]It is a pleasure reading these detailed reports. Keep up the good reporting. I look forward to reading your future adventures!!
Below are some inquires for those gentlemen obliged.
1. Does anyone ever take their "man vitamins" with them in their luggage? I was thinking of taking some extras I have with me in my luggage but reading some past reports suggested they would be flagged. These reports were from many years ago but I assume, if anything, security is even tighter now.
2. While doing the deed, whether at a clinica or boate, is one concerned when leaving your belongings unattended? For example, if at Scandallo, you and your lady friend are showering, is there a concern that someone will enter the room and steal your things?
3. I will be leaving SP on a Saturday and I have to check out of my place at 11 AM. My flight, unfortunately, is not until 9 PM. I did not have the foresight to book the place for Saturday as well and now it is not possible. I will be traveling with luggage including a laptop. Anyone have any suggestions on how to kill time after checking out of my place with luggage, etc? I've read previous reports that suggested one could go to Scandallo and check-in luggage there but my concern is how safe that is especially with a laptop. If I have to go to the airport at 11 AM it's going to be one long ass day.
J.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2872711]Below are some inquires for those gentlemen obliged.
1. Does anyone ever take their "man vitamins" with them in their luggage? I was thinking of taking some extras I have with me in my luggage but reading some past reports suggested they would be flagged. These reports were from many years ago but I assume, if anything, security is even tighter now.
2. While doing the deed, whether at a clinica or boate, is one concerned when leaving your belongings unattended? For example, if at Scandallo, you and your lady friend are showering, is there a concern that someone will enter the room and steal your things?
3. I will be leaving SP on a Saturday and I have to check out of my place at 11 AM. My flight, unfortunately, is not until 9 PM. I did not have the foresight to book the place for Saturday as well and now it is not possible. I will be traveling with luggage including a laptop. Anyone have any suggestions on how to kill time after checking out of my place with luggage, etc? I've read previous reports that suggested one could go to Scandallo and check-in luggage there but my concern is how safe that is especially with a laptop. If I have to go to the airport at 11 AM it's going to be one long ass day.
J.[/QUOTE]1) Man vitamins? I assume you are talking about Viagra and the such. These can be had over the counter in any Brazilian pharmacy. No need to bring your own if you are concerned.
2) No.
3) I posted an afternoon report at Scandello a while back. To summarize. They will hold your bag for you when you first come in. I had everything in my bag pack and nothing was missing when I got it back. You can come to Scandello at 12 pm and hang out till your flight leaves. Nothing to worry about.
Enjoy!!
I made it to both Yankin and Tangara for 1 session each.
Firstly Yankin:
The manager speaks English, which made things easier. I've also found a girl who spoke English and we had a good time (girlfriend experience, lots of kissing).
There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
The room I had itself are lets put it "spartanic" like a bed and a mirror, else there is nothing in it.
I usually like to have a bit more of a romantic atmosphere, don't kmow if the other rooms would be nicer.
On to Tangara:
Seems like a bit nicer place, had to use google translator.
After some time I've found a next door girl and had an okay time with her. (With kisses).
The room upstairs was also "spartanic, tough maybe a bit nicer.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.
Will likely be on the weekend though.
If all else fails, I'll give Yankin and maybe Tangara one more shot.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2872673]A source I consider reliable posted this last month:
Bargain newcomer in Vila Mariana.
Here at home in Medellin I earned the reputation of a Centro rat who ventures out into the world of casas from time to time. In Sao Paulo I am pretty much a full time clinica rat. But even there I stay true to my charlie cheapie tendencies. I recommend it as a low risk way for you late night ballers to see how the other half lives. LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks man. Yeh I read that post here back few pages. These are the most frequently visited and popular joints. Will chk it out during my visit. Do they have street scenes like el Centro and Santa Fe?? If they do what locations / intersections would be?? Been to el Centro few times. It's different level of an adventure for sure. Does FB work in Brazil??
Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.
With flight booked, was torn with do I land in SP and take sleeper bus to RDJ or can I find acceptable hobby scene in SP. After little to no fanfare from ISG and WhatsApp, decided on SP only.
Departed Monday, brief layover in PTY, and touched down in SP GRU at 8 am Tuesday morning. Google Maps for reasons unknown kept trying to push me towards riding the bus into town, but found terminal shuttles that take riders to a train platform that for under BR $5 tap with credit card gets eventually to Bras station and then find your station from there.
Getting around: Metro, website claimed there was a day pass for BR $24 but station employees denied existence of such a feature. The subway options were wait in line to buy single-use paper ticket each ride or skip line buy an 8 ticket card that was only sold at the Se station. Not sure why SP and RDJ's metro trains make it such pain for foreigners.
Getting around 2: Also learned (not as quickly as I should have) that Uber or blending subways and Uber are a must due to select destinations no where close to subway stations. But like other's on thread reported, after a few rides, the Uber app locked out my card for too many pending charges, likely caused by whatever bank Uber Do Brasilia goes thru. Had to add a backup credit card to soldier onward. Had similar issues in Mexico with DiDi.
Lodging: Took a chance on AirBnB 27 floor high rise in Zona Republica, booked with plus 1 just in case. So naturally, host advises of all guests register with ID, and door man at entrance so there goes that idea. Building looked new, fancy lobby and gym but the rooms looked CHEAP build. White paint, bland design, door handle to bathroom broke off. Felt like an employee break room with a mattress. Had a pool but would forget it was there oops. I honestly don't know if it was a hotel or an apartment.
Food: For some reason, places around Zona Republica only served burgers and fries and maybe personal sized pizzas. And rice goes with EVERYTHING.
Funding: Both my credit cards have No foreign transaction fees. For cash overseas, opened a debit card with Capital One, deposited a few hundred before trip, in Brazil find Bradesco and hope their ATMs are properly loaded for minimal to no fees. A few times ATMs were out / non-func but not nearly as bad as Rio previous trip.
Comm: T-Mobile with international on my main plus brought a burner phone linked via hotspot to separate civilian and hobby aliases.
Here goes:
Tuesday Day 1.
Had crazy thought process of get a cheap throwaway quickie.
Settled into Airbnb, quick shower by noon and with zero leads began looking on PhotoAC.
After deliberations that took too long, found a finalist with a few backups.
Short chick BR $100.
Lured me to Motel Ipe room Rep whatever.
Girl didn't match pics, and she said BBBJ was add BR $50 I said that wasn't discussed so told her to leave. Ate a BR $40 room fee and left.
Went to backup, casa listing individual girls in Zona Santana out of Hotel Bernardelli. One girl albeit older confirmed BBBJ and Oral Terminado were included in her price of BR $100. Got there eventually, keyword "eventually".
Lobby staff "advised" aka bait switched BR $100 for girl plus BR $50 for room. Waited for one girl. Many other girls with listings on PhotoAC were coming and going thru lobby and many with surprisingly accurate minimal touched pics these girls looked just as good in person. Started taking names to possibly return later.
Finally girl Laura shows up, pics match, she's warm friendly, but also said after I waited 45 minutes she says she's got one guy ahead of me could I wait 1 more hour. I have been at quickie hunt since noon it is now 8 pm, decided right there and then I am hungry and I've got a whole week to spend in SP so chalked off Day 1 as a giant mulligan.
Wednesday Day 2.
Looked up some higher tier sites beyond PhotoAC, but also GP forum a little aggravating to mine as many entries start page 1 dated 2008 or 2015 so have to click for most recent last page to find nothing of help.
This time ate first, did a little bit of sight seeing, acquired train card pass at the Se Station then did more online hunting. Talked to one English speaking performer via Whatsapp at the suggestion of an ISGer, but she only did tantric and I told her that wouldn't work for me, she was understanding wished me well in my SP antics.
Lined up another PhotoAC listing with a backup at Santana, listing looked promising but also not close to subway. Said 25 minute walk, thought I walk fast could do it in 12 minutes. Nope it was 25 and I was winded by time I got to door.
She was decent body slight curvy, kind of not warm, hints of rushed, BR $100 add BR $50 for anal. Between the long walk that wiped me and room with no AC, I was not able to perform. After 10 minutes of nothing, we aborted I just wanted out of there. As I was walking back to subway, backup option at Santana was messaging me was I still coming. Oh my god she was actually expecting me? I told her sorry for something coming up but heading now be there in 45 minutes.
Back to Santana / Bernadelli, met girl Flavia, she was decent. No oral terminado, no anal, but did promise nuru style massage. The actual nuru was us taking turns one at a time in shower then we began GFE and BBBJ and DATY. I guess the foreplay was so intense, popped before got chance to poke. We laughed and I got her personal number to do something at later time outside of the casa.
On way out of building, ran into new candidate immediately added to must try list: Stella. Make an excuse to come back.
Major Incident.
It was late. Got back to Republica at 11 pm later than was hoping. Walking around streets, saw closed shops, opened Google Maps to see what eateries were still open. And doing so, a bicycle bandit snatched and took off with my phone, just disbelief that I could become a statistic. My communication and navigation just gone. Ran back to hotel wi-fi to track with my burner phone but not avail. It was gone. Barely slept that night.
Day 3 Thursday.
Need a SIM card in my offline burner phone. Read up that the walkway shopping district in Republica had two Claro stores within 100 m of each other. Pre-typed a tale of woe for staff to read. First Claro told me Brazilians with CPF only and that I could to Claro's corporate office tower, pointed but not sure which building. Went to the other Claro store and lady sat me down and got me setup BR $20 for the sim card, cash only, plus BR $30 for a 30 day 20 GB plan. After 45 minutes of her enrolling me, I was on my way.
Also: without my other phone I was no longer tied into a Brazil ISG Whatsapp group chat, here on out I was flying partially blind.
Small lunch then start hunting for these clinicas. And being time is short, bite bullet and incorporate Uber into my conquest.
ISG pulled towards Miruna Spa. Found some other listings like Europe Spa and Hope Spa. Europa only had 2 girls working not sure if that was a red flag. Decided to try Hope Spa on east end. Took metro train to Tautape Station which is attached to a shopping mall and hail Uber from mall entrance to Hope Spa.
Walked into Hope and they showed me tablet of up to 16+ girls on overall roster but at this exact moment Thursday afternoon only 2 available right now now for the walk-in customer. Reception re-iterated for future cannot guarantee a walk-up but to Whatsapp phone ahead to reserve spa girls.
Picked one on screen then deal breaker. My bad. The initial price quoted, the are $270 rate was for massage only, the other quote mentioned for full session was closer to are $450, while within my purchase power I just wasn't feeling that and thanked them for stuff and bounced.
To Miruna Spa from east end. Uber back to Tautape station / mall, then metro trains to Saude station and took another Uber to Miruna Spa.
Enter building, presented lobby and waiting area. Two other guys enter, two more exit session drink bottled water before heading out. So 3 of us. Girls come out individually greet us. Decide on one girl, but reception tells me other guys just called her first. But if I'm willing to wait 15 more minutes some more girls are wrapping up and will be available soon. So I wait. And out of the next batch, pick a short young piel blanca looks like fun trouble: Denise.
She takes me to room, sets AC to 18 when her back is turned I raise it to 23, sends me into an attached shower room with opaque doors, washed but also checked to make sure my belongings weren't rifled with (they weren't for once).
I walk out of shower, Denise is already nude and she takes a separate shower. Then we do the deed of GFE, BBBJ, DATY, various positions she was partial to reverse cowgirl. Finally in doggy I blew load. I honestly amazed myself how long I lasted, compared to day prior. Did ask Denise if she had a personal to meet outside of Miruna and she promptly stonewalled me. Get dressed head downstairs and even better not only pay at end, staff decided since it was barely under limit, only charged 30 min / BR $200 BR instead of the full hour / BR $270. If you say so I guess.
Uber back to Saude subway station, train back to Republica, freshen up at hotel, its about 10 pm and get ready for tonight.
Uber out to another establishment ISG raving about: Casarao. Was short car ride over, lit up street vibes of Tijuana's Norte, Manila's Burgos Street, etc.
Entry get patted down, present ID so they can assign me a club card. Look around Casarao on a Thursday night, crowd slowly trickling in, no one stood out as fellow gringos so I'm solo here on out. One drink to start things.
It was a decent ratio of guys and girls and pretty much every girl there was available on freelance basis. Mix of some English but mostly Google Translate. No house rules, each girl sets her rates and allowances. Some cuties but their program (s) were bit too restrictive. Some girls that stood out were 30 m single pop anal and CIM allowed R300, R400, and R600. The R600 girl was a model-esque hottie, had to really think that over. It was about that time started talking more and more to the R400 girl, decent looks, fake boobs. At this point, I felt the R400 girl was going to be my Casarao session.
Named Thais. Spoke minimal almost canned English. Took me to exit where I showed entry card paid cover and two drinks with card, walked next door where room was R50 for half hour paid with card.
I asked earlier she amazingly takes card, was low on cash, had a swiper on her iPhone, typed 400 got rejected multiple times. Starting to panic. Checked email, and Chase Bank was asking me to confirm attempted swipes I said yes that was me, tried 400 again and it went thru we went in (really cramped) room.
(Note: paying card in RDJ, 4 x4 and Perola Negra you pay the desk staff, but here I am in Casarao paying FL direct and starting to wonder if that was the brightest idea. Could she alter payment later or was at ran as 400 BRL and not 400 USD? More on that later).
We do our thing, she gets undressed, pipes in some Spotify on her phone, feeling and tasting the goods. She's got questionable ink on abdomen, likely covering see-section scar, reference pics of pornstar Brittany Amber, me not a huge fan of giant tat on lower but able to work with it. Started with BBBJ then sex. Got anal at a few points. While performing DATY on her, I was stroking myself to keep it hard, but doing so regret the camshina "accidentally got loose" and upon reinsert the camshina "somehow fell to the side" while I got to feel her insides raw. I went slow to savor moment, kissed, we were into each other.
She wanted new position, pulled me out and. Busted. She realized I was going in her raw for at least a few minutes. She playfully scolded me saying that is not allowed, at least she was in good spirits. More poke, more anal, one point gave her a hand shocker, that woke her up.
Finally got down on her knees and unloaded all over her face and mouth.
We got cleaned up, took turns in shower. Got her personal number.
Walked out hotel, 1 am Thursday technically Friday morning, ordered Uber, after 6 minutes no basic Uber responding. Upped to Uber Black and 7 cars in main drag street available, hopped in back to hotel and that was that.
After bum day previously, I was amazed I lasted as long as I did in both sessions.
Day 4 Friday.
Woke up after 2 really good sessions. Took a breather and did some touristy sightseeing stuff mainly old style Sol train station and Japan Town south of station Se. It was okay. Started looking into spa action. Tried my damnest to to use online guides and reach out to spas, but again started to get quickly frustrated on how information is all over the map and possibly outdated.
Some way somehow defaulted to Zona Santana / Hotel Bernardelli. Reached out for Stella but she's off Fridays. Listing showed trios starting at BR $250. So thinking that plus BR $50 for room, lets see what a 1 hour trio procures. Even if no Stella. It was pretty much 6 pm by time I ventured that direction from Japan village. Station Santana then short walk to hotel.
Hand picked 2 girls in building: Karol, 19, short but cute looked like good trouble. Also, Vivienne, a Portuguese speaking doppleganger of porn star Nia Nacci. I don't think I've been with a black chick before, she may have been my first.
So I made it known I was here for a trio / duplex with full contact lesbian. Both girls were down for it. The dude at desk who speaks English interjects that lesbian girl-girl sex is extra feature I need to tip each girl are $50 each. Shit, I'm already here, lets go.
So we are sent upstairs to a large room to accommodate 3 people, but then AC wall unit was dead. Deal breaker. Eventually sent back downstairs to a regular sized room slightly cramped for 3 but time for session. We each took turns in the shower, I savored the moment when Vivienne got undressed (mainly since I helped her).
Karol freshly 19, soft skin no baby damage. Vivienne, once dress came off, her nice boobs did have kind of a teardrop hang, plus a small see-section scar albeit compared to disastrous scars I've seen in Mexico hers was nothing. Two minimal scuffs I can overlook.
Once dried off, duplex / trio is think man and woman playing a game of Twister but replace the colored dot game mat with a second woman's naked body, and game on. Right hand on pink boob.
Spent first 10 minutes watching these two hotties do each other, kissing, licking, going down. Something about a 19 yo giggle while she's giving DATY. Then they flipped over to BBBJ or alternating 1 BBBJ and one face ride. A few positions with Karol, then a few positions with Vivienne eventually exploding while ramming Vivienne doggy while DFK with Karol.
Asked and each girl gave me their personal for Whatsapp. Not sure what good, just wanted to see if they'd do it I guess.
Back to hotel, watched my six, no issues, and I was wiped.
Day 5 Saturday.
Needed a change of scenery, spent early afternoon at Parque Ibirapuera. Mix of subway and Uber. Also early day semi-derailed discovering if you are ever in a hurry, a KFC mall food court is NOT the most convenient / quick food option.
While exploring Japanese zen garden, more negotiations on Whatsapp. Had itch for another trio at Bernardelli. Zeroes in on Stella and Lorena get both in one sesh, and get in early to hit up Casarao later in evening.
Seemed like a great proposition on paper.
Freshened up at my hotel and headed up to Santana station. Got there just before dark.
About Lorena: legs for days, pics on PhotoAC accurate.
About Stella: speaks fluent English due to previous life living abroad in Australia, pics on PhotoAC fake they stitched her face on some stock pic HOWEVER she's got that curvy Violet Starr body going on driving me crazy. Plus she'd be great at translating in a BGG.
Made my intentions clear just as I did via Whatsapp. Both girls were busy in sessions, but should be finishing up. And so began a series that could only happen to a hobbyist in town for a few more days. Next, for two girls: Lorena decides she only does four-hand but not full-lesbian. So they intro'd me to the waiting room to meet 3 other girls willing to perform with me and Stella. None that good looking.
Decided to scrap the trip and go with just Stella. Go get sent to room. Stella slowly undresses revealing a damn good body, but then- she does not do DATY, asks if that's okay I told her I really need DATY in session. She offers to swap for Lorena. So I wait. And I wait. Starting to wonder if they forgot about me. These casa deliberations have dragged out for almost 2 hours, was planning to do to Casarao later tonight.
Finally door opens, it's still Stella. She offers "Lorena is busy. You can go down (DATY) on me. I don't let any guy eat me. But I think you're special so eat away. ".
Proceeded to eat her out for all of 15 seconds before she got sensitive. Had some hot sex, massage afterwards and that was that.
Needing food but knowing options in Republica non-existent, half way between Bernardelli and Santana metro was a Lebanese halal food joint, watched a Brazilian belly dancer, settled up and back to hotel in Republica. At was pretty much 11:30 pm by time I got back to hotel.
Wanted Casarao but also checkout is 11 am this was really pushing it.
Did a quick shower turnaround, ordered Uber black, which Uber tried to say "too many payments use different card" different card it is. Rode around 12-12:30 am Saturday night technically Sunday early morning. Saw large outdoor crowds massing huge block party not sure if norm.
Arrived, checked into Casarao. Room was 3 x filled versus Thursday night. Real challenge having to navigate crowds. Thursday night near middle a mystery door was roped off. Saturday night, door open and led downstairs to a third area more floor and more VIP booths. Guessing this is where whales get lured to sacrifice their credit scores to the party gods.
Ordered a token drink, looked at my watch realized it's almost 1 am, this is futile. So feeling this mission was lost just messed around. My bad Spanglish was useless but Google Translate and FL that spoke passing grade English came thru.
Just started feeling out girls on a hypothetical basis. Then each one bombshell asked them if willing to do BBFS. "Hell to the no" across the board, lone exception one girl said for BR $3000 (about $600 usd) she could turn a blind eye.
On that note, finished my drink tabbed out, 1:30 am Uber back to hotel. Noticed that giant block party was completely gone. Night done on grounds of inconvenient early checkout.
Day 6 Sunday.
Woke up, checked out, stored luggage with reception, all smoothly. Last day in Sao Paulo, flight at 2 am.
Entered Metro hall and heard loud chanting downstairs. Went down, and there were fans gearing up for a soccer game, chant and all. Police in full blown riot gear split apart mild civilians on front end of train with soccer hooligan cult group relegated to rear half of train. Yes, a game of soccer is taken VERY SERIOUSLY in these parts.
Metro over to Avenida Paulista which on Sundays is pedestrian only, with bicycles and street vendors everywhere (Rio's Copacabana main avenue does same thing on Sundays).
Found some cafe to eat lunch and reach out to Flavia from Wednesday night in Bernardelli asking if she'll meet later tonight. Yes she's down to meet at a different hotel, ask if I get a special send off with everything, she was firm no rawdogging. Just like that, all this week long buildup went to waste.
Next option, looked up Miruna Spa from a few days ago. Of course being on a speakeasy basis easier said than done. Eventually found them on Whatsapp. They were open on Sundays. But only 3 girls available. Not in mood to be let down.
By this time, went from Ave Paulista to Batman Alley for some reason. Looked at street art and glanced at soccer game on giant patio screen.
Pulled up another spa, Moeme Prime. They were open. Whatever let's go, Uber up.
Arrive around 5:45 pm there's 8 WG available some young some madura. All with either fugly looks or excess gangsta tats I can't stand. My feet are tired, reception lets me hang around, in Mexico they would've kicked me out but Brazil didn't seem to mind. One MILF type lady kept inching up on me, I politely said I'd "think it over" More on that later.
Two other guys in room speak English, we call watch game in overtime talk about life in USA and Brazil.
7 pm Moeme Spa has closed, all girls now in plain clothes single file punch out and exit. It is 7 pm, have not had one session all day, flight at 2 am. Time for one last bad decision. The MILF from earlier, approached her just barely 5 steps from front door with Google Translate:
"Do you meet customers outside of Spa for private sessions, keep 100% no house cut?" (Yes of course!
"You down for BBFSCIP?" (Yes! For few hours 260).
"I know this weird but do you have time right now now?" (Sure, where's your hotel?
"No hotel, just killing time before my flight. Sorry I didn't think that far ahead. " (No worries! I know of a motel, just a short walk).
Hours before flight, chance she'll rob me, why the hell not.
20 minutes of side streets and pedestrian bypass routes, starting to wonder how much longer. Eventually, keyword eventually we find Motel Palombo. Short rate is BR $125 for 4 hours or something. Room is equipped with towels, robes slippers, toiletries even toothbrushes.
We shower up freshen up, start with DFK foreplay, oral before I slide in. Missionary was the only position I was able to last the sensation was too intense unloading balls deep. Watched it all drip out.
We relaxed. Talked via Google Translate. Showered up to get ready for Round 2. I needed recharge time. About 30 minutes, thankfully she was cool with me.
Then she starts her BJ skills, mounts me cowgirl, then switch to doggy and I fired my second load also balls deep.
Showered again and we both decided as fun as it was, that making my flight was crucial at this point. Had just enough cash to cover her 260, plus also spotted her an authentic farmacia Plan-be pill from my Mexico misadventures, whether she took it or not I'm not sure. She comforted me until my Uber arrived, a little after 9 pm car pulls up and began my next great escape: Uber to Saude metro stop, ride to Republica metro, short walk to hotel to fetch luggage. Their system already deleted my facial recognition so slight delay. Got luggage pushing 10:20 pm, another Uber to Bras metro station, two very long train rides to GRU then the shuttle bus from the train exit to Terminal 3. Was about 12:30 am when I got to the Copa Air check-in, passport control at near 1 am was uneventful, boarded flight and off I went. And that concluded my $335 flight to Sao Paulo.
Aftermath / observations:
-That Casarao girl I paid via card? It did in fact get ran as 400 BRL and not 400 USD, even funnier it showed up on my invoice as her full first middle last name. Lulz glad no joint account. Yet.
-Comparing Sao Paulo to Mexico City, as far as locales, streets, metros, CDMX has a 50/50 blend of Spanish names phrases (Juarez, Zaragoza, Madero, etc) and indigenous names phrases (Azteca, Tlapan, Toluca, etc) Meanwhile, SP had little to no indigenous presence and end result is all Portugues all the time.
-Brazil, Sao Paulo especially, in 20th century lured in people from Europe even Asia to start a new better life. Many and their descendants are still there making up much of SP. If you took photos of crowd scenes and asked people which pic is New York and which is Sao Paulo, they probably couldn't tell them apart.
Overall take on the hobby in Sao Paulo from first timer view:
-City is HUGE. Need to break down to smaller quadrants / sectors / zones and make a true game plan to plan day's hobby and fall back options within one zone each day. Thinking you can just skip and hop from east end to CGH think again.
-watch your belongings at night! That was a nice phone.
-Spanish is NOT Portuguese so get Google Translate ready.
-Resources / directories / maps bloated with too much irrelevant fluff punter (s) could really do without. Message boards chronologically ordered old to new were an absolute PITA. Maps relegated to 640 x640 screenshots also major taboo. No single centralized black book of clinicas / boates.
-Hobby most effective if tagging along with an experienced wingman guide in person, otherwise spinning wheels piecing together intel.
-Would I go back? Difficult to say. I went purely because I was itching for a re-do of Rio's 4 x4 and was gifted a $335 flight from Texas to Sao Paulo. I thought SP could be imitation Rio De Janeiro (to an extent that is true) Often times wonder if I was better off landing and immediately take sleeper bus from SP to RDJ and spent my trip there instead. The looming threat of Americans paying to enter starting Jan 2024 isn't helping either. Neither is getting my phone swiped.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2873004]Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.[/QUOTE]This was a good read. You're recounting your adventures in stunning detail. The Highs and Lows of your trip. I felt like I was on a rollercoaster. Rooting for you only to read your recount of disappointment then happy when you recount your successes. Glad your phone bandit incident did not escalate, just property loss. It looks like you amassed a lot of lessons learned, and hopefully you're considering another SP (or RJ) trip, Try locating in a different area of SP (with more entertainment and food offerings), and as always Plan, Plan, and Plan.
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2872792]There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.[/QUOTE]You are not going to find a lot of girl next door types in the clinicas as they cater to the Brazilian locals and they like them curvy and thick. Your best options are the two you already visited, Tangara and Yankin. You can try Clinica Abobora (Alameda dos Guaramomis, 1275). They usually have a big lineup with higher quality girls. CLínica Enjoy Spa (Rua Condessa do Pinhal, 279) is a decent place as is Red Massagem. Another good one is CLínica Anália Franco (Rua Prof. Jerônimo Azevedo, 189). FYI: most clinicas are closed on sundays.
You will find the places in Moema (Prime, Abbobora, RedMassagem etc.) have more honeymoon suite type furnishings.
[QUOTE=CourteousGuy;2872792]I made it to both Yankin and Tangara for 1 session each.
Firstly Yankin:
The manager speaks English, which made things easier. I've also found a girl who spoke English and we had a good time (girlfriend experience, lots of kissing).
There were a lot of different girls, different types and like a said, I do like the more natural, girl next door girls and I've found that.
The room I had itself are lets put it "spartanic" like a bed and a mirror, else there is nothing in it.
I usually like to have a bit more of a romantic atmosphere, don't kmow if the other rooms would be nicer.
On to Tangara:
Seems like a bit nicer place, had to use google translator.
After some time I've found a next door girl and had an okay time with her. (With kisses).
The room upstairs was also "spartanic, tough maybe a bit nicer.
I guess I will try some other locations next, maybe like red massagem or if you have other recommendations.
Will likely be on the weekend though.
If all else fails, I'll give Yankin and maybe Tangara one more shot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2873004]...Food: For some reason, places around Zona Republica only served burgers and fries and maybe personal sized pizzas. And rice goes with EVERYTHING....[/QUOTE]There are many good restaurants and varieties. These are the obvious ones, for example, Bar e Lanches Estado, Bar the Dona Ona and often mentioned A Casa do Porco Bar. There are many by weight buffet places that should give you enough varieties. There are some nice speakeasy bars too, like one in the dungeon of a museum, and another is a bank vault. I like this area, walking distance to almost everywhere, Japan town, China town, Italian town. The main drawback of this area is it is far from clinicas.
You can get metro card from the machine in Rio or go to an office to get it. A little more work in SP because it takes a few days processing. You can just buy 8 paper tickets and keep them for later use. The bus can be faster and can get closer to your destination. The bus schedule has real time update on Google map.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2873004]Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within ere instead. The looming threat of Americans paying to enter starting Jan 2024 isn't helping either. Neither is getting my phone swiped.[/QUOTE]Great report, really enjoyed reading it.
Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
The plan is to take 2 days and stop in SP. This will be my first visit to SP.
Main reason for visit SP is to visit the famous Scandello.
Should this be my go to for those 2 days or is there somewhere else I should take time to visit.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2873330]Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
The plan is to take 2 days and stop in SP. This will be my first visit to SP.
Main reason for visit SP is to visit the famous Scandello.
Should this be my go to for those 2 days or is there somewhere else I should take time to visit.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
Any feedback is greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]No need to lock it in. You can play it by ear. Go to Scandallo. If you love it repeat. Or try something new. You are bound to find something at Casarao but be sure to specify BBBJ first as there is a condom epidemic threatening there it seems! Or try Bomboa if you like a smaller more dinner club vibe.
And of course you can double up with the Clinicas during the daytime. Seems you prob have some coin so maybe Abbobora or Enjoy or some of the higher end ones. And then hit the Boates at night. Have fun!
Should I wait until after new years? I'm thinking many of the GP will be on holiday.
[QUOTE=Markon;2873525]Should I wait until after new years? I'm thinking many of the GP will be on holiday.[/QUOTE]I was in SP last year between Christmas and the new year. While the numbers were down slightly at Scandallo. Bomboa, and Casarao, there was still action enough and plenty of fun to be had. The only exception was NYE itself, as the boates were closed.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2873004]Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's a very detailed information. I also just spent my thanksgiving week in Sao Paulo and it was a blast. At first, I was planning to go to Rio but since the plane was full, I went for the second best option. Most of the time, I only visited clinicas because is more back for the bucks although I was tempted to check out Scandallo. At first day, I went to Tokio to check out Camile and boy, she was like a firecracker! From DFK to DT and all of it, except anal. I was blown away and I told myself that I must do repeat before I leave. DC = R150 HH.
Second day, I went to Tanggara but since it's pretty early, they only have two girls and it's not my cup of tea. So, I decided to go to Yankin and pick this girl name Jenny. She told me she was 19 but we end up just cuddling and kissing for half an hour. After the phone ringing, she asks whether I want to extended but I decided not to go with it. DC = R140 HH. In the evening, I did a free walking tour in Paulista and end op at Libedarde area for some ramen (like actual ramen).
Third day, I went to Matsuri and meet Saia or Saina (I don't really remember). She was cute and the body was ok. She does everything (except anal) and very GFE. She also told me that she just graduated and majored at mortuary science but doesn't speak English. DC = R240 OH. In the evening, I went to visit Unique Spa but the place was pretty full and there's only one girl that comes out to greet me. So, I decided to went to CLnica Cancioneiro. There was nobody when I came and there was six girls there. I picked Nubia and she was one sweet and chatty girl. Even though I don't speak Porto and use google translate, she's really accommodating. DC = R160 HH.
Last Day, I went back to Tokio to meet Camile again and she looks happy to met me again. We have an half hour debauchery and at the end, I promise I will come here again to meet her. Since my flight is at midnight, I decided to check out Yankin once again and I end up with the girl that I don't even remember the names. She was pretty but since I've been ejaculating two times a day, I cannot cum anymore. After that, straight to the Airport and now I', just keep reminiscing those beautiful times. One thing that I need to look is to find girls that can speak English but so far, nadaa.
[QUOTE=MasterOfNone;2873330]Heading over to Rio next week for 10 days.
Also, I plan to visit SP on a Tuesday and Wednesday. Are these the best two days to visit Scandello?
[/QUOTE]Short answer, yes. Wednesday is arguably the best day, and Tuesdays are often very good.
[B]Tuesday Report[/B]
Since I'm posting anyway, I figured why not give a summary of my Tuesday at Scandallo. Sao Paulo was hit by some really strong rain right around 9 pm, and while it slows closer to 10, it doesn't show any signs of abating. I am a little nervous it may impact turnout, but decide to chance it anyway. I arrive a bit after 10 pm, and grab something to eat. Food is great as always, and plenty of girls circulate into the dining area for you to scope out. I finish up dinner, and start making my rounds. The lineup was fantastic, I really can't stress how many gorgeous women were present. I tend to by picky and with so many girls to choose from, that's really not a problem. I spot a few top prospects, and end up saying Hello to a girl next door type. She is dressed very conservatively, but I can tell she has an amazing body under her outfit. At other clubs I find sometimes once the clothes come off they were hiding something disappointing, but at Scandallo my experience has always been the opposite. Anyway, to my surprise she speaks perfect English and we end up chatting for probably a bit more than an hour. The chemistry was fairly solid, and I offer her R800 to go do an hour. I swear you would have thought I threw a drink at her based on the look on her face. She tells me she charges R1,300 for an hour, or R2,500 for an overnight. We barter a bit and she tells me she can do R1,000 but that's the absolute minimum and I mull it over briefly, but I really want to see what's under that outfit and I get the feeling she will be a lot of fun, so I say yes. We stand up and I don't know why, but I ask her to confirm that the BJ will be without a condom. I can't recall ever asking that question at Scandallo in probably 40 visits now, but something in my brain must have been working overtime because she says she only does CBJ. I tell her that's a dealbreaker, and she lets me walk over it. One girl I had previously seen 5-6 times prior for R800 was excited to see me and spent a lot of time chatting, but when I wanted to go upstairs she said she charges R1,500 now and again let me walk over it. Maybe persistence would have paid off, but being 0/2 I left. I'm positive there are women there who can be had for R600-R800, but honestly most of those girls you could find in cheaper clubs by the dozen, or even the clinicas. It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal. Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2873604]Short answer, yes. Wednesday is arguably the best day, and Tuesdays are often very good.
[B]Tuesday Report[/B]
Since I'm posting anyway, I figured why not give a summary of my Tuesday at Scandallo. Sao Paulo was hit by some really strong rain right around 9 pm, and while it slows closer to 10, it doesn't show any signs of abating. I am a little nervous it may impact turnout, but decide to chance it anyway. I arrive a bit after 10 pm, and grab something to eat. Food is great as always, and plenty of girls circulate into the dining area for you to scope out. I finish up dinner, and start making my rounds. The lineup was fantastic, I really can't stress how many gorgeous women were present. I tend to by picky and with so many girls to choose from, that's really not a problem. I spot a few top prospects, and end up saying Hello to a girl next door type. She is dressed very conservatively, but I can tell she has an amazing body under her outfit. At other clubs I find sometimes once the clothes come off they were hiding something disappointing, but at Scandallo my experience has always been the opposite. Anyway, to my surprise she speaks perfect English and we end up chatting for probably a bit more than an hour. The chemistry was fairly solid, and I offer her R800 to go do an hour. I swear you would have thought I threw a drink at her based on the look on her face. She tells me she charges R1,300 for an hour, or R2,500 for an overnight. We barter a bit and she tells me she can do R1,000 but that's the absolute minimum and I mull it over briefly, but I really want to see what's under that outfit and I get the feeling she will be a lot of fun, so I say yes. We stand up and I don't know why, but I ask her to confirm that the BJ will be without a condom. I can't recall ever asking that question at Scandallo in probably 40 visits now, but something in my brain must have been working overtime because she says she only does CBJ. I tell her that's a dealbreaker, and she lets me walk over it. One girl I had previously seen 5-6 times prior for R800 was excited to see me and spent a lot of time chatting, but when I wanted to go upstairs she said she charges R1,500 now and again let me walk over it. Maybe persistence would have paid off, but being 0/2 I left. I'm positive there are women there who can be had for R600-R800, but honestly most of those girls you could find in cheaper clubs by the dozen, or even the clinicas. It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal. Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.[/QUOTE]I am a medellin / Bogota Colombia guy but also have been to sao paolo and rio 3 times as well as I just had to see for myself what everyone was raving about and I agree that the talent in looks and effort of the brasilieras is excellent but the cost / benefit ratio does not match Colombia even though too many dumb ass gringos have been polluting Colombia the last several years. I still enjoy Colombia as my homebase and Brazil as a fun trip for diversion.
[QUOTE=JZeleznik;2873604] It really seems that my target demographic isn't taking less than R1,000.
For anyone considering it who has never been I really want to reiterate that the talent pool at Scandallo on a good night is out of this world. The amount of gorgeous women you have to select from is astounding, and I think everyone should experience it at least a few times. That said for me paying R1,000+ for the girl, another R300 for a room, and the R200 cover / R300 consumable really does not feel worth it anymore. Taking the girl out for an overnight (an additional R300 exit fee) would probably feel okay in terms of value, but for a first time I wouldn't want to commit to that. [b]Also as an aside, the idea of getting a CBJ for R1,000 feels downright criminal.[/b] Just my personal feelings, but I think I'm closing the books on the Scandallo chapter of my life.[/QUOTE]I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. Yea, Scandallo base / floor quotes are getting higher.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2873653]I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. [/QUOTE]I mean come on now, pull a knife and ask for my wallet like an honest crook.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2873653]I just want to say, that one line is hilarious. Yea, Scandallo base / floor quotes are getting higher.[/QUOTE]That's because people kept paying the higher asked amount, it will continue to rise. I believe some girls said that the management are telling the girls to up their price as well.
[QUOTE=Ottotot;2873533]...I did a free walking tour in Paulista and end op at Libedarde area for some ramen (like actual ramen)....[/QUOTE]Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.
Aizom has a second location near Paulista that operates as a gift shop and normal restaurant. It's legit: Alameda Fernão Cardim, 39, Jd Paulista. It is very much worth a visit. It's in another whole league than the typical "festival" all you can eat places around town. I enjoy those places too but Aizom is a higher quality and more authentic experience.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2873788]Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nounce;2873788]Did you go to Japan House during the walking tour? There is a Japanese restaurant Aizom inside is one of the best Japanese restaurants but it only opens during day time. The irony is all the better ones are outside of Liberdade.[/QUOTE]I didn't go when I did the walking tour but I went there the next day. The funniest thing is I already in front of the restaurant inside the museum but I was craving some steak. So, I just bailed and went to the churrascaria around Paulavista. I actually don't know that restaurant is one of the best Japanese rest. In Sao Paulo. Perhaps next time then.
Speaking of next time, I am planning to go back on Dec 23 and spend like two days there but I'm just worried that all the talents are leaving the town around that time. Any thoughts gentlemen?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2873004]Been a long time hobby world wide, mainly Monterrey and Mexico City. December 2022 went to Rio liked what I saw but picked wrong dates not realizing places were closed on weekends, kind of shot myself in foot. Had been itching for a return trip to Rio. Or an equivalent. September 2023: prayers answered. Airline flash sale Austin TX Sao Paulo $335 flight. Years of backdooring around the globe out of Mexico, Houston, Dallas, so this time just jet out direct from Austin was a moral victory within itself..[/QUOTE]What a superb report. Take a bow. Thanks for the detailed experience and insights.
Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.
There will be some left, but you will not get the full experience.
[QUOTE=Ottotot;2873858]I didn't go when I did the walking tour but I went there the next day. The funniest thing is I already in front of the restaurant inside the museum but I was craving some steak. So, I just bailed and went to the churrascaria around Paulavista. I actually don't know that restaurant is one of the best Japanese rest. In Sao Paulo. Perhaps next time then.
Speaking of next time, I am planning to go back on Dec 23 and spend like two days there but I'm just worried that all the talents are leaving the town around that time. Any thoughts gentlemen?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. The worst ones are the ones who are asking that high of an amount anyways so its a loose-loose situation.
[QUOTE=BangKoker;2873888]Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.[/QUOTE]
After a nice meeting with a friend I met previously, I decided there was time to check the clinics. I took an Uber to an address next to tangera and walked in. It was wall to wall men waiting for girls. The girls were not walking around so I assume most of them had scheduled via whatsapp. Decided to walk to a couple others and the last one was Zeus. It was not as crowded and there were 6 girls on the roster. The quality of the girls has improved since they opened last year. Or was it two years ago. Time flys. I have known the manager since 2018 and we had a nice visit though she was busy arranging the sessions. It is much less expensive as another fellow stated below and now that the quality has improved it may be worth a try for some of you.
As I walked by Kalina there was a pretty redhead walking into the club. I did not enter but from the outside it did not appear to be as packed as Tangera.
Today I will be meeting again with someone I met Last Christmas so will be tied up through the night.
I hope the next one is the best for all of us!
Jim.
I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2873978]Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. The worst ones are the ones who are asking that high of an amount anyways so its a loose-loose situation.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2874058]I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?[/QUOTE]Only lazy people with the lowest level of commitment would be turned away by the E-visa requirement coming into play. It's a low-cost, low-level nuisance kind of thing that won't turn away anybody intent on going to Brazil. You got to do what you got to do if you want to be who and where you want to be. I think the impact on tourism will be virtually nil.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2874039]... It was wall to wall men waiting for girls. ....[/QUOTE]Maybe because it was pay day and Friday.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2873978]Yeah, it is getting very ridiculous. It was already ridiculous last year and now it is a lot worse. ...[/QUOTE]I think this forum also contributes it because it helps set the base and the base has increased as the price was going up. Has anyone ever tried to offer 400 in Scandallo? It's unlikely because the base has always been set higher. That is one of the problems.
Anybody have a link to a list of clinicas or other areas of interest? The map is not publicly accessible.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2874072]I think this forum also contributes it because it helps set the base and the base has increased as the price was going up. Has anyone ever tried to offer 400 in Scandallo? It's unlikely because the base has always been set higher. That is one of the problems.[/QUOTE]Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2874058]I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?[/QUOTE]99% of the clinical clients (ok, I may be exaggerating a bit LOL) are local Brazilians. We have no impact on the pricing whatsoever. Which is a good thing! Don't what SP to become the next Medellin Colombia. Nothing good follows gringos.
[QUOTE=BangKoker;2873888]R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months?[/QUOTE]Just for clarity sake I was rounding because I didn't remember the actual number, but R270 sounds correct.
351.50 fee every 2 years for this visa? damn! I miss Bolsonaro
[QUOTE=TheCane;2874081]Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2874081]Several years ago pre-COVID when the prime base rate at Scandallo was 600 reals (I consider the prime to be 1,000 now), a girl offered to go with me for 400. I turned her down because she really wasn't for me in Scandallo (very plain compared to the hotties present and she had to know it thus her below market offer). She then offered to be my partner at a swing club (said she knew of some in Moema), but again I declined. But, that was the only time somebody was willing to go to the room at Scandallo for as low as 400, and she was the one who approached me with that price right off the bat. Would have been a bargain to bang a hottie, which she was not. No deal! Willing to pay more to get exactly what I want.[/QUOTE]That is not my point. It's about your offer which is being influenced by this thread and contributing to the price increase, not the offer from the girl.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2874216]That is not my point. It's about your offer, not the offer from the girl.[/QUOTE]My point was just to relate a story where that specific amount of money was involved regardless of who's offer it was. I remember it because it was the lowest price at which I ever could have taken a girl at Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2874211]351.50 fee for this visa? damn! I miss Bolsonaro[/QUOTE]I don't know where you got that figure from. Here's some intel I found:
[URL]https://www.ivisa.com/brazil/blog/brazil-visa-requirements-for-us-citizens[/URL]
It will just have the same effect like how Scandallo increased their entry fee. They had this visa before the pandemic, so it didn't really change much. They are just going back to it after removing it during the pandemic.
[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2874058]I am wondering if the new "visa necessary" from January 10th will have a impact on tourism and pricing. I guess the question is. Would influx of foreigners decrease due to the hassle of getting a Visa. And would this have any impact on pricing in clinicals / boates etc?[/QUOTE]
Amen. I agree on the gringo comment brother!! Have seen Medellin become Costa Rica before my eyes these past few years. I am assuming only scandallo and similar venues may have some price impact not the regular clinicas then.
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2874096]99% of the clinical clients (ok, I may be exaggerating a bit LOL) are local Brazilians. We have no impact on the pricing whatsoever. Which is a good thing! Don't what SP to become the next Medellin Colombia. Nothing good follows gringos.[/QUOTE]
Medellin is awash with weekend warriors who are beyond lazy. They need everything handed to them on a platter. And Colombia does it. I suspect that there will be some impact on on tourism numbers if Colombia takes away 90 day free entry and goes for a visa application.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2874071]Only lazy people with the lowest level of commitment would be turned away by the E-visa requirement coming into play. It's a low-cost, low-level nuisance kind of thing that won't turn away anybody intent on going to Brazil. You got to do what you got to do if you want to be who and where you want to be. I think the impact on tourism will be virtually nil.[/QUOTE]
Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.
Next day took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Not a good line up.
So walked to Abbobora. May be 15 girls and most of them were good. King of confused with names and the receptionist isn't that helpful. And also she looks upset when we don't take anyone. Since I was last to arrive 2 girls I wanted was taken by early arrivers. Asked receptionist if Mikayla was natural or silicone. She told natural but actually silicone when she came to room. Anyways went with her as she spoke English and was nice otherwise. Turned out to be one of the good GFE sessions. 2 disappointments were CBJ and silicone. But she was really cooperative and enjoyed. Talked for 20 minutes about lots of subjects after deed. 330 reals.
Walked to Enjoy and Prime but didn't liked the line up. So went to Tangara again. Same crowd like Friday. Since I was tired went half minded with Bae and it was a normal session with BBBJ but not GFE. She didn't shower even telling her multiple times. She told she didn't take any customers after bath. That kind of ruined my mood. So finished in 30 minutes. 140 reals.
Sunday took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Took a BBW and it was just a normal session with BBBJ. Weird thing was she used a mint before BBBJ and it kind of make my dick cold and I didn't liked it. 270 reals.
Checked in to Renaissance hotel and took rest.
Monday work in the day time and hit Casarao at 12:30. 15 girls and around 20 guys inside. Should have waited but took a girl in hurry. Forgot her name. Asked 300 and immediately accepted 250 for 30 minutes. Decent session and nothing to write about. Only CBJ. Entry 40, room 50.
Tuesday went at 11:30 more girls than yesterday. Found Larizza to be really attractive as she had curly hair. Asked 300 but immediately accepted 250. Great session with only CBJ. It was a true GFE session and I can my best mongering session ever. She spoke some English and took some rest as we both got involved and exhausted. She seems to have enjoyed the session and was inquiring about the Durex prolong condom I took from USA. Came out and introduced few more girls.
Next day went around 11:30 to Casarao and may be 35 girls. More crowded with guys. Saw some very attractive girls but I got a thing for a ebony spinner and went with her. Asked 350 and agreed for 250 after few minutes of nego. CBJ only and was almost dead in bed. But the hole was very tight as she was only 20 and I enjoyed it. But I feel that should have selected some else as there were more doable girls that day.
No other mongering as time did not permit.
Few notes:
1. Renaissance hotel ATM minimum withdrawal is 500 r and other options are 700,900, 1 k etc. So walk to Av Paulista to get exact amounts.
2. On Renaissance reception while waiting for Uber at 11 pm a beautiful lady in good party dress was making clear eye contact and smiled on seeing me. She directly asked in English if she can come to the room. She asked 800 but I guess could have accepted 500 or 600. But since some of colleagues were in the bar drinking I didn't want to take risk. The hotel staff doesn't care about the guests as it's busy even at midnight. As long as you have the card to enter elevator you should be fine.
3. Casarao rooms are not like even Tangara. So small with only a dim light.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2874217]My point was just to relate a story where that specific amount of money was involved regardless of who's offer it was. I remember it because it was the lowest price at which I ever could have taken a girl at Scandallo.[/QUOTE]Understood, what motivated my post was someone offered 400 and was accepted last year for a Scandallo regular who is attractive and usually ask for 800 or more. He got 2 pops, CIM, and video to prove it. If I were to make offer to the girl at that time, I would never think about offering anything below 500, that is partly due to reading this forum.
Similar to you, I go to Scandallo to find girls that I can't easily find elsewhere and am willing to pay for it.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2874665]Understood, what motivated my post was someone offered 400 and was accepted last year for a Scandallo regular who is attractive and usually ask for 800 or more. He got 2 pops, CIM, and video to prove it. If I were to make offer to the girl at that time, I would never think about offering anything below 500, that is partly due to reading this forum. Similar to you, I go to Scandallo to find girls that I can't easily find elsewhere and am willing to pay for it.[/QUOTE]Really? Where is that? I would like to see it.
Seems like you figured out more info since your first trip and getting better experiences. You don't have your PM enabled. Would love to chat.
[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;2874509]Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;2874509]Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.
This time landed on Friday afternoon and the Uber took 2 hrs to reach my hotel.
Stored the luggage and walked to Yankin. The guy in the reception spoke very good English and was really nice. There were around 10 girls and after waiting few more arrived and took a girl based on his recommendation. Nice time spent with 2 shots incl 1 CIM. Very nice girl and was pleasing all the time when I took time for second shot. Forgot the name. 190 reals.
Came back and checked-in. Then went to Tangara. Many guys waiting in reception and in the bar. Around 10 girls and kind of confused with presentation as girls didn't know who are new vs already there. Anyways the other English speaking lady took me to the room and showed everyone. Didn't like anyone and waited. In few minutes a new girl Soi came and immediately took her. Wonderful time with BBBJ, GFE and all positions. 190 reals.
Next day took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Not a good line up.
So walked to Abbobora. May be 15 girls and most of them were good. King of confused with names and the receptionist isn't that helpful. And also she looks upset when we don't take anyone. Since I was last to arrive 2 girls I wanted was taken by early arrivers. Asked receptionist if Mikayla was natural or silicone. She told natural but actually silicone when she came to room. Anyways went with her as she spoke English and was nice otherwise. Turned out to be one of the good GFE sessions. 2 disappointments were CBJ and silicone. But she was really cooperative and enjoyed. Talked for 20 minutes about lots of subjects after deed. 330 reals.
Walked to Enjoy and Prime but didn't liked the line up. So went to Tangara again. Same crowd like Friday. Since I was tired went half minded with Bae and it was a normal session with BBBJ but not GFE. She didn't shower even telling her multiple times. She told she didn't take any customers after bath. That kind of ruined my mood. So finished in 30 minutes. 140 reals.
Sunday took a tour in the morning and went to Miruna. Took a BBW and it was just a normal session with BBBJ. Weird thing was she used a mint before BBBJ and it kind of make my dick cold and I didn't liked it. 270 reals.
Checked in to Renaissance hotel and took rest.
Monday work in the day time and hit Casarao at 12:30. 15 girls and around 20 guys inside. Should have waited but took a girl in hurry. Forgot her name. Asked 300 and immediately accepted 250 for 30 minutes. Decent session and nothing to write about. Only CBJ. Entry 40, room 50.
Tuesday went at 11:30 more girls than yesterday. Found Larizza to be really attractive as she had curly hair. Asked 300 but immediately accepted 250. Great session with only CBJ. It was a true GFE session and I can my best mongering session ever. She spoke some English and took some rest as we both got involved and exhausted. She seems to have enjoyed the session and was inquiring about the Durex prolong condom I took from USA. Came out and introduced few more girls.
Next day went around 11:30 to Casarao and may be 35 girls. More crowded with guys. Saw some very attractive girls but I got a thing for a ebony spinner and went with her. Asked 350 and agreed for 250 after few minutes of nego. CBJ only and was almost dead in bed. But the hole was very tight as she was only 20 and I enjoyed it. But I feel that should have selected some else as there were more doable girls that day.
No other mongering as time did not permit.
Few notes:
1. Renaissance hotel ATM minimum withdrawal is 500 r and other options are 700,900, 1 k etc. So walk to Av Paulista to get exact amounts.
2. On Renaissance reception while waiting for Uber at 11 pm a beautiful lady in good party dress was making clear eye contact and smiled on seeing me. She directly asked in English if she can come to the room. She asked 800 but I guess could have accepted 500 or 600. But since some of colleagues were in the bar drinking I didn't want to take risk. The hotel staff doesn't care about the guests as it's busy even at midnight. As long as you have the card to enter elevator you should be fine.
3. Casarao rooms are not like even Tangara. So small with only a dim light.[/QUOTE]Good trip report man. It sounds like you had a pretty good time. I am surprised by your Casarao girl count. Everytime I have gone there after midnight I find the joint is packed. I wonder what has changed since June? But you are right, the rooms at the hotel next door suck. I find it is better to take your girl back to my hotel or to a love motel.
Yeah, a couple of FL's hang out at the Renaissance. Same same at the Grand Hyatt. I have never taken one of these girls upstairs, but I kind of like seeing them in the lobby. It makes the hotel seem friendlier. KKK.
I was just at Abboboro this afternoon, but when I arrived around 12:30 pm, there were only 4 girls available. I guess there is high demand from the locals after the weekend with the wife and kids. I choose Natalie, a buxom blond because she gave me convincing eye contact and a sweet smile during the lineup. After we got naked and started making out, she tried to pull out a condom. I said it was too soon and she said ok and gave a pretty decent BBBJ. Overall, the sex was good, but not outstanding as it sometimes is at Abboboro. Oh well, they can't all be memorable. Ha Ha. Natalie was my 1st new girl of the trip. I have been spending the 5 nights since I arrived with my favorite boate girls from previous trips. There is nothing like reunion sex. I love it!
I'm vising Sao Paulo for a couple weeks. What are some of the best legit sites for finding girls? Also, is there some kind of translation table somewhere for what each of the listed "services" are / mean? What are reasonable prices to expect? Thanks!
[QUOTE=TheCane;2874671]Really? Where is that? I would like to see it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, it's not mine to share.
[QUOTE=ThisOneFs1;2874509]Visited SP for the second time. In the first visit I went only to the clinicas but had a wonderful time though.[/QUOTE]The second time is the charm. Looks like you had a good time. Good report thanks for sharing.
As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
1 rst day Thursday 30th – Web escort-famous content creator / porn actress.
After arriving very early on the morning, took an uber directly to a mall very close to my Airbnb in Vila Olimpia, my telephone company fortunately gives me international data for Brazil at no extra cost, perk of having the same telephone company in both countries. After arriving at the mall my buddy and I, change the dollars we had to BRL Reais, the rate was not great but definitely better than the airport, I guess foreigners can't get the rate that indicates Google but oh well the difference was not that much. After that we had breakfast and contacted my Airbnb host to check the possibility of an early check in. As I was in a hurry to get in the Airbnb to get freshed up because as I mentioned in my previous posts I had booked Luiza Marcato a well known escort and content creator for that same very day early in the after noon, before the check in time in my Airbnb. I did this because it was her last day in SP and the only hour she was available. Well long story short the host try to sped up the cleaning of the apartment so I could check in early but I was not fast enough and had no other choice to go to Luiza's flat as I was after a 5 hour flight, hoping she would lend me her shower. Took an uber to her flat and left my buddy at the Airbnb lobby. In appearance it was short distance but due to the horrible SP traffic and me saying this coming from a city in south America known for having one of the worst traffics, is saying something. Well after a 30 min ride I arrived, checked with Luiza if she was ready, responded that she needed a couple of minutes, so I waited in the lobby and after a few minutes she told me the apartment number, went to the receptionist and in my "Portuñol" announced my visit, the receptionist called Luiza and told me to wait for her to come down for me as the elevators only work with a key, which a first did not understand and tried to go up on the elevator, which obviously did not work and the receptionist had to tell me again to wait till she came down for me if I did not have a key, which only then I understood. I was only a few hours in SP with few hours sleep, felt a little embarrassed for my inexperience in this types of affairs so I waited in the lobby until a couple of minutes later she came down and god damned what a women she was in a tight gym outfit highlighting her amazing figure, a rock solid ass and great tits. Quickly went up with her, got in her apartment told her I only speak a little Portuguese and helpfully she indeed speak a little Spanish with a Spain accent for some reason, I assumed she may had work in Spain. But after some chitchat in which we could communicate well, after all Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, I could take a shower thank goodness. As I left the bathroom I found her totally naked in all 4's waiting for me, amazing view of that ass so I could not resist and started kissing that ass and gave a few licks to that pussy. After that the performance was as you could expect from a porn actress real hardcore, DFK, sloppy BBBJ looking at me with those stricking grayish eyes as she performed. Balls sucking and deepthroat as rough as I wanted, a dream come true after jercking off to her videos for the last couple of years. Then sex in various positions and as she was riding me in cowgirl she told me, "now in my culo", and before I could realize what she meant she stuck my cock in her asshole and started riding me even harder. Anal is not really my thing but I really enjoyed that tight ass, and that girl really loved it as well as I pound that ass as hard as I could. After a while she started sucking me off hard as I CIM. Totally ecstatic after that I took another shower, and chatted various trivial thing she was very nice and friendly told me she had been filming content the last few days and that finding pro male talent was hard, and more trivial friendly matters. After that I told her I was ready again, started with another hardcore BBBJ, after I got hard more pounding in several positions until again I CIM, unfortunately she does not swallow. After that I asked her if I could take a few pictures as a souvenir, she must have liked me somewhat because she agreed, even though when coordinating our date before she clearly stated she did not allowed videos or photos as she was a pro. But I believed that after telling her all the effort I made to be able to see her, practically getting of the plane directly to see her, it earn me some points, so she allowed me to take a few pictures of her amazing ass with me as well in the mirror and some selfies of us kissing as if were lovers. What a woman hot as hell and also very kind and lovely, Sp had welcomed me in a great way and this was only the preamble of my experiences in the next couple of days. After another shower got dressed, payed her and said goodbye with a couple more passionate kisses and she gently caressed my crotch for the last time before parting ways.
After that went back to my Airbnb to find my buddy already checked in, resting in the apartment. Went out to dinner, planning to rest for the night even though we knew Thursdays was the best day at Scandallo but we were totally exhausted, as my buddy had also sessioned with a web escort he found in Splove that had a place a couple of blocks away from our Airbnb, great session as well according to him, even though he would later regret this escapade, you will see why later.
So we decided to call it a night after a couple of beers and watching the local beautys walk past by in the mall, man you fall in love in every corner in this fucking city, and hope for the best at scandallo on Friday.
2nd day Friday 1st – The world's famous Scandallo
The next day we did some tourist stuff in the morning visited Parque Ibirapuera where we feasted our eyes not only with the natural beauty of the park, which had very central park vibes, but mainly with the local women God damn! What beautiful women, you could find every type of girl you could imagine blonds, brunnetes, mulatas, Latina type it was an impressive diversity. Some times I forgot I was in south America and not in some Cosmopolitan European city. I've been to the states many times and I have never seen so many beatyful girls in that quantity anywhere.
Well after more touristy stuff in the afternoon we got back to the Airbnb to get ready for Scandallo, we decided to go before 7 pm to not pay the R200 cover that you have to pay after 7.
We took an uber around 5:45 pm after drinking a couple of beers to get in the mood, the uber took several minutes to arrive and we where afraid we would not get to scandallo in time before 7, due to the Sp traffic. Fortunately the traffic was not so bad and after 40 min we arrived, I must confess I was a little nervous did not know exactly why maybe excitement to finally visited the much hyped scandallo or maybe at the same time fear to be disappointed due to my high expectations. In any case we arrived, got inside reception after being checked by security, the first impression already was positive the place looked very classy as the lobby of a high end hotel would look like. As I was registering a woman passed by looking amazing and in that moment all my fears of being disappointed fade away. After being registered and had being explained how the card system worked we went up in the elevator. FUCK as we walked out of the elevator, even though the ambiance was very calm as it was early, there where at least 10-15 girls in the sofas outside the restaurant area, it was very overwhelming because all of these insanely hot girls all dressed in spectacular fashions were staring at us, as we were figuring out what the hell we should do, I quickly decided, before the pressure of being stared at by a bunch of super model types of girls burn a hole in my skull, to go to the restaurant area. Passed in front of all this girls just to find an amazing quiet area where people where having drinks and dinner, an area that you would usually find in a high end restaurant in any city of the world. Still very overwhelmed we sat down with my buddy and feasted our eyes with the 30 plus girls that were there at that early part of the evening, we ordered a couple of drinks and decided to chill out a bit to digest if all of this was real or if we were just dreaming. Although there were not that many girls as later in the night would be, the girls still were hot as hell every type you could imagine. My buddy and I were like children in a candyshop drooling at every "candy" in the shelf, the next looking tastier than the last one. Previously we decided our "strategy" that we would not invite or approach at any women before 10-11 pm, where supposedly most of the women arrived. Although I had seen a couple girls, especially one that was very slim but with curves a tiny waist a great ass and really cute young face, that if I had no previously decided not to do anything before said time I would have in an instant called her for a couple of drinks, but for better or worse decided to wait for later in the night. As we were in the restaurant having a couple caipirinhas we were approached by at least 3 pairs of girls trying to accompany us, but after some chichat the classics where are you from, first time here, etc, We politely send them away, we were determined to stick to our plan. As we were enjoying our time just drinking and watching all the amazing girls pass by and slowly arriving more girls and gentlemen we thought the terrace patio area was close for being too early because from the restaurant the entrance to the patio was closed, so we did not move from the restaurant for like 2-3 hours until we realize the other areas were already open, maybe there were always open but because we did not move from the restaurant we didn't know, so we decided to finally move and check around, passed the disco area and games area to reach the patio, where it was already full with people and even more beautiful girls we did not see at the restaurant, we sat down at one of the few free spots and watched the whole show like 50 plus girls already there standing in the bar or just in the middle of the area as if they were waiters just waiting to be called by a client, if I was already overwhelmed this exploded my mind. We sat there for a few minutes until a couple of girls approached us and sat down with us, before asking if that was ok, as it was already close to 10 pm we decided to start chatting so we let them stay. They were a stunning curvy blond and a stunning slim brunet for my buddy, we talked the classic stuff and although they were very nice at least the blonde was in mi case she even invited my her vape but I was not planning to be hunted I wanted to be the hunter I wanted to choose not be chosen so even though the chat was very nice and the blonde was hot as hell I did not show a sign of even inviting her a drink much less to have a session as I play dumb and told her I did not know how the fucking system worked in scandallo, she explain that most of the girls fee was R1500 and the in the second floor was a hotel that cost R300 plus the girls fee. I faked surprised at the fee and told her I was not sure if I was going to session that night, so after a couple of minutes she took off to the "bathroom". Obviously she did not came back and my buddy's brunnet also took off, in my buddy's case he was interested in the girl but some actituted of the girl put him off, according to him this girl seemed very desperate to go have a session also she seemed very intense in the way that she asked my buddy in what he worked on, if he could give her a job and started complaining that scandallo was abusive in their treatment of the girls because they charge them 300 R for the entrance same as men but not consumable just a fee to enter and work there, so that attitude put off my buddy, complaining, desperate to session was a downer for him, apparently this girl's strategy was to make men feel sorry for her, but in this kind of place you come to have fun not to hear a girl complaining about her life. So she left after realizing with my buddy it was going nowhere.
Well after the first chats with the girls I was decided I was going to choose this time not be chosen but before I could do anything a couple of new girls approached us a blond for my buddy and a brunnet with tan skin, mulata type but with a big bunda and thick legs for me, because she sat down so fast and did not see where she came from and could not check her body out completely. But oh well I let her stay to chat a little and surprisingly she was very charming she knew a lot of things from my country as she had lived there 3 months for a university exchange or something spoke Spanish and we really hit it off, she was all flirty so she convinced me to invite her a drink, we kept chatting and before a realize my buddy was leaving with her blond quite fast. Later he told me she was very flirty and reminded him of a American porstar he really liked and most of all because she agreed to a fee of R600. For me she was a tier 2 girl, because she was on the older side 34 yo, but my buddy likes bargains and from 1500 to 600 looked like the offer of the year to him so he took her upstairs for a session. After my buddy left I stay with my girl for 30 min or so thinking she is no exactly my type but as we are really hitting it off at least this will be a great fuck, we chatted a little more kissed a little and then negotiated the rate she told me the standard rate the apparently all the girls have stablished as default is R1500, I told her that it was my first time I did not know those were the prices and only had R600, she told me playfully that it was too low but as she liked my she could accept 800. So I agreed and off we went, as I was following her to the elevator to pick her stuff up and go to the rooms, I could finally checked her body out and she was too thick for my usual tastes but oh well resigned to at least have a great performance with her I continued. Once in the rooms she took her close off and as mentioned it was not I was hoping for, of course she still was hot but not what I wanted in my personal taste, other thing was that in a rookie mistake a did not clarify the terms of the Service BBBJ, number of shots, etc. So she wanted to start sucking me off covered and surprised I thought, damn it I screw up did not clarify the Service terms beforehand, so in that moment I asked her if I could have BBBJ she said no she did no do that, but as I begged her just the tip at least, I guess she thought well fuck it and started Licking the tip but I guess she could not control herself and started going full BBBJ hardcore sloppy and forgot about the rubber. After that Little impasse was sorted out the session continued great with several positions, DFK, hard pounding in doggy, hard ass spanking, choking her throat real hardcore until a I cum in the rubber. In between shots she took out a dildo from her bag and said to me now is my turn to cum, she started masturbating while she told me to suck her tits, I must admit that was really hot a proof, I thought, that this Brazilian girls really enjoy this shit is not a mere job for them. After a while she cummed and I was hard again and continue pounding her hard until she came a couple more times, finally I also cum in the rubber again after pounding her ass so hard that I left it red, she really liked it rough. After that I asked her if I could take a couple pics she said ok but not of her face, she cover her face with the pillow and took a couple of pictures of that big bunda.
As we finished I was thinking that I wanted another girl even though this session was pretty great I wanted a girl more of my taste slim white with European features model type but with that Brazilian bunda, that mix of European features and Brazilian curves for me at least is the best, is the type of girl it would be impossible to find in my country, big ass thick Latina type you can find easily that is why I wanted the type of girl I could not fuck in my country. So we finished and she told me that now I could go rest drink a couple more caipirinhas and if I wanted fuck another girl, she was very nice and funny. Most if not all Brazilian girls are like this very friendly and outgoing like they are genuinely your friend.
I went down met my buddy and immediately did rigurous math in my mind to figure out if I had enough cash for a second session. I had planned to pay for everything in cash but after doing the math in my head I realice that I only had BR800 tops for the session and the room would had to be paid with CC.
My buddy was done for the night but not for lack of energy for another session but for lack of cash regretting the session he had with the girl he found on the web yesterday considering all the options for a second session he had there lesson learned for next time, so I told him that I wanted another session with a girl more of type he didn't have a problem of hanging out until I had my second session just enjoying the view of the many girls that were there a 12 am around 100 or so. So as I was again a little overwhelmed again for the vast options I had at my disposal did not know who to choose now, I thought I had to choose carefully now, so as I was roaming the room I see the Slim girl I with the tiny waist I saw at the beginning of the night now in a different set of clothes, I noticed girls change their outfits as the night progresses. But as I saw her I also notice she is with a dude they were very close and she was hanging from the guys neck as he was very tall, I though well I lost my chance in the end waiting for something better does not always pays, if you see someone you like a lot just call her immediately next time, thought to myself. My buddy told me that if I liked her so much wait for her to return after she sessions with the guy but it thought nehh, with some many hot girls around why should I wait for one girl. But as I was saying this a notice the girl leaves the dude and she returns to the disco area and I saw her standing there with the rest of the girls, fuck it I go as fast as I can and approach her told her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, we went to the restaurant and I asked her what she like to drink, she did not speak Spanish but she told me she spoke english so we started speaking English, I noticed then she was a Little tipsy and she indeed told me she had much to drink and only ordered a coconut water and I order a beer, but seeing her up close I even liked her more she was really beautiful. But as the waiter brings our beverages she tells me to excuse her for a bit she has to go to the bathroom, she leaves and I was very happy imagining what she would like later sucking my cock with that beautiful inocent looking face with striking green eyes. But quickly I am brought down to reality as almost 10 min passes and the girl does not return, I am starting to worry, my buddy then texts my asking me if I was still with the same girl, I told her I am waiting for her that she went to the bathroom but she was taking too long, he tells me that he just saw her with the same dude we saw her before I approached her, they went for the rooms. I could not believe what a ***** she was by leaving me after ordering her fucking drink. My buddy then comes where I was, and tells me that he saw the girl apparently indeed returning from the bathroom but the guy approached her again and immediately took her to the elevator for the rooms. My guess is he was bargaining her fee before, they did not reach an agreement and she left and in that moment is when I approach her, the dude must have seen me with her thinking he lost his chance and as he saw her alone coming from the bathroom took her immediately to the rooms for the fee she asked him. Still she was a ***** for leaving me hanging after ordering a fucking drink, least she could do was to tell me she was leaving and she was sorry but she was way to drunk to care or embarrassed for making me order something and then leave. Well shit happens, left with my buddy the restaurant area and went back to the patio where I sat down for a bit and as the night was not getting any younger I quickly scouted the area and the first Slim girl with European features I saw I quickly approached her. Ask her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, she was with a friend and as she saw me with my buddy she told me if my buddy did not want company I told her he already sessioned he was resting, she said ok and ordered a gin and tonic and off we went for a sofa to have a chat. She was the kind of girl I was looking for Slim but with curves great fake tits and fit, she did speak really Good Spanish that she learned from just talking to clients, she never studied it, she was well versed in many subjects and was fun and friendly, she told me that Fridays and Saturdays where slow days for me that day was awesome with lots of girls she insisted that was nothing that Thursdays and Wednesdays are in another level with double the girls, damn I could not imagine even more girls, she also told me some gossip that many famous people from Brasil and the world visited scandallo, from the local famous she could not speak but from the international one she told me that last one to visit was a very famous American pop Singer top of the charts in recent years that was just recently touring south America this past months. Even I went to his concert when he visited my country, big fan. She told me he came to hang out a bit in a private area on the second floor of the disco and after a while pick 4 girls and took them to his suite in some hotel in the city. She thought that as he was American he would be into big bunda thick latina type and thought he would not choose her, but was all the opposite he liked Slim White girls and giggling told me he choose her and 3 other girls, I guess now me and of my favorite artists are as we call in my country "hermanos de leche" or eskimo brothers, when 2 guys have fucked the same girl hahaha.
After a pleasant time chatting an hour or so when she finished her drink, started the negotiating part and the same as all the other girls standard R1500, told her that was my first time here did not know the prices I could offer her R700, she told me impossible her bare minimum is R1000, I insisted was too much for me and she left it a 900, for R100 was not letting her go so of we went to the rooms. In the elevators we found another couple they started speaking Portuguese and my girl told them it was my first time there the other girl laugh said that it was the first time of her guy too even though he was a local, he asked me where I was from, all laughing, and my girl said she did not believe it was the guy's first time he had a face of being a seasoned monger, all was in Portuguese but I understood, we all laugh and each couple went to their room. What a place scandallo a utopia for men. Well once in the room we took a shower saw my girl's body fully naked as we showered what a beautiful woman she used minimum make up and looked natural but still was really amazing and cute GND type of style. Just as we were finishing the shower I once again realized that I did not clarify the terms of the Service number of shots, BBBJ or DFK. But all my fears went I away as we lay on the bed I could not resist at that beautiful Pink pussy and started a DATY, watching her cute face enjoying it was one of my top experiences after a while she told me to go 69 so she can suck my cock. Indeed we went on 69, I was eating that pussy as my life depended on it and she just began the BBBJ included balls and all also putting her tongue near my asshole that girl really liked to suck dick thankfully she did not try to pull a CBJ like the last girl, also as I was eating her out put my finger in her ass making her shake a tremble in pleasure. After that I put on the rubber and begin the fuck fest, in every position with DFK for a longtime as this was my second session of the night I was not that sensitive, after 30 min of continued pounding I asked her if she wanted to rest because I was not Cumming, she told me she wanted to go on. But I was exhausted of so much pounding so I told her I need 5 to rest. We lay down and cuddle full GFE with soft kissing. After a few minutes I was ready again we begin with another BBBJ and then sex in various positions having the view of that girl riding was like I was on a dream. She rode me so hard I could feel she was Cumming I asked her if she indeed was and she ask me how did I know. I told her I felt her pussy twitching on my cock and the for intensity of how she was riding me. Finally I had her in doggy fucking her as hard as I could, that white ass was left all red of all the pounding, when I finally cummed in the rubber. After that we lay on bed glaring at each other's eyes as she was stroking my hair, telling me she really liked me that I was cheiroso and muito gatinho, this girls have a way of making you feel really desired and that are really into you I guess what you call IoP, for a moment a did really believe that I even blushed at her compliments. For a moment we were falling asleep but it was getting late and I had left my buddy waiting so I quickly got up and went to the shower with her. We got clean and she offered me mouthwash she had in her bag. I asked her a photo as a souvenir she agreed but with clothes on but I was so ecstatic and happy that I completely forgot to ask her by the end of the session regrettably. One interesting thing she told me, I don't know if it is true for all the girls is that for older men they charge more, this came up because she told me I have baby face I am in my late 20's but that is a thing many girls have told me, that is why I grew up a beard to look older, I told her this but she replied saying that looking younger was a good thing even more in a place like this because, that's when she told me, that they charge more to older men, she told me for example she charged a Chilean man in his 50's R2500, and so I should be happy to look Young. I guess it's true that some girls charge you more if they really don't like you, in this girl's case she charges more to older men others may charge more to overweight men or to a guy that for some reason they don't like. She also told me that she is very respectful when a guy a approaches her she stays with him until he wants, she told me she saw a regular of hers but as I approach her before he did, she stayed with me even though her regular gave her some disappointed looks when he saw us leaving for the rooms. A very respectful approach unlike the other girl the left me hanging to go with another guy.
Even though I forgot to ask for the picture at least in the end I asked her number to contact her through whatsapp, for a next time I am in SP. She gladly gave it to me.
After that we parted ways with a Kiss, I looked for my buddy and left after paying the consumable card fee with CC because I had burned through all my cash with the 2 sessions.
Finally left around 3:30 am happy after finally getting to experience what many call paridise on earth, did not disappoint one of those rare ocations where all the hype and big expectations are met and surpassed. And it was a slow day only god knows how it would be in a Thursday. Sadly I had destined the rest of my mongering money to a threesome with 2 hot girls from the web that I've been gollowing on twitter for some time for the next day, I left wanting to come back day after as well but I would not be possible. As this post is already incredible long then threesome will be post later.
Thank for all the information it was really helpful. Attached a couple of pics of scandallo.
Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia.
1) Spa Azumi (Rua Coronel Otaviano the Silveira, 235). This one is right next to the metro station. The way this place and the place below works is a little different than the other clinicas. Most clients schedule their appointments ahead of time via whatsapp. And they are super busy. I went there twice, walk in, and both times all of their GPS were busy. I did have a session with a girl here, 19 years old Dani after waiting for her for a hour. White complexion, 7/10 face, 5'5"-5'6", super skinny, small natural titties and a soft as butter little butt. Pretty friendly girl who likes to dictate the action in bed. Not so much GFE with her, not much kissing. But both the BBBJ and sex were great. She can take a pounding and be just laying there seemingly going into a trance with a slutty face. She allows DATY and FIV. 150 reais for an hour and it was worth it the long trek for me. They have 7-10 girls. The best way is to schedule via whatsapp or you can do a walk in but be prepared to wait.
2) CLínica Esha (Rua Diogo do Couto, 146). To reach this one, take bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Praça Isai Leiner, 128. Then a 10 minute walk. Went there twice, walk in, and was only able to see one girl in person, a mulata. They have about 5-7 girls. 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for 1 hour.
3) CLínica My Lady 2 (Rua Ministro Adauto Lúcio Cardoso, 225). Same as above, take Bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Pça Isai Leiner, 128, then walk. This place has like 5 or 6 girls, all good quality. I had two sessions here. First was with 19 years old Mirela. Morena, 7. 5/10 a cutie pie, 5'4"-5'5", super skinny, small natural titties and a firm little butt. She told me she doesn't kiss in the interview but we had good chemistry in the bed and she became a willing kisser. Both BBBJ and sex were excellent. Squeezing and slapping that little firm butt of hers in cowgirl was absolutely amazing. She allows DATY and FIV. She get BUSY with clients. The second girl I had was Emili. Another morena, a bit older than Mirela. 7/10 face, body in shape, with medium natural titties and a super curvy booty. Very friendly and petty good GFE. The way to go with her is doggy to appreciate that beautiful ass of hers. 150 reais for an hour here as well.
4) CLínica My Lady (Av Escola Politécnica, 4561). This one is far but bus 775 V-10 on Av Corifeu de Azevedo Marques (not far from My Lady 2) dropped me close to it. Then its a little bit of walking after crossing the canal. I was there on an early afternoon. 3 girls, one was in service, the second had a client scheduled, the third was available. Got presented by the second and third girl. Both were in mid t20's of typical brazilian body type, tall and curvy 7/10 face. Took bus 775 N-10 back.
On Google maps it says Casarao is open regular hours on Sundays. True? I found that a bit surprising but would be great. Anyone been? Lame?
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2875003]As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. [/QUOTE]Good report. Looks like you and your buddy had a good time. In future posting please break up your big paragraphs to make reading easier.
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2875066]Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia.
1) Spa Azumi (Rua Coronel Otaviano the Silveira, 235). This one is right next to the metro station. The way this place and the place below works is a little different than the other clinicas. Most clients schedule their appointments ahead of time via whatsapp. And they are super busy. I went there twice, walk in, and both times all of their GPS were busy. I did have a session with a girl here, 19 years old Dani after waiting for her for a hour. White complexion, 7/10 face, 5'5"-5'6", super skinny, small natural titties and a soft as butter little butt. Pretty friendly girl who likes to dictate the action in bed. Not so much GFE with her, not much kissing. But both the BBBJ and sex were great. She can take a pounding and be just laying there seemingly going into a trance with a slutty face. She allows DATY and FIV. 150 reais for an hour and it was worth it the long trek for me. They have 7-10 girls. The best way is to schedule via whatsapp or you can do a walk in but be prepared to wait.
2) CLnica Esha (Rua Diogo do Couto, 146). To reach this one, take bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Praa Isai Leiner, 128. Then a 10 minute walk. Went there twice, walk in, and was only able to see one girl in person, a mulata. They have about 5-7 girls. 100 for 30 minutes and 150 for 1 hour.
3) CLnica My Lady 2 (Rua Ministro Adauto Lcio Cardoso, 225). Same as above, take Bus 8019-31 from Metro Vila Sonia and get off at Pa Isai Leiner, 128, then walk. This place has like 5 or 6 girls, all good quality. I had two sessions here. First was with 19 years old Mirela. Morena, 7. 5/10 a cutie pie, 5'4"-5'5", super skinny, small natural titties and a firm little butt. She told me she doesn't kiss in the interview but we had good chemistry in the bed and she became a willing kisser. Both BBBJ and sex were excellent. Squeezing and slapping that little firm butt of hers in cowgirl was absolutely amazing. She allows DATY and FIV. She get BUSY with clients. The second girl I had was Emili. Another morena, a bit older than Mirela. 7/10 face, body in shape, with medium natural titties and a super curvy booty. Very friendly and petty good GFE. The way to go with her is doggy to appreciate that beautiful ass of hers. 150 reais for an hour here as well.
4) CLnica My Lady (Av Escola Politcnica, 4561). This one is far but bus 775 V-10 on Av Corifeu de Azevedo Marques (not far from My Lady 2) dropped me close to it. Then its a little bit of walking after crossing the canal. I was there on an early afternoon. 3 girls, one was in service, the second had a client scheduled, the third was available. Got presented by the second and third girl. Both were in mid t20's of typical brazilian body type, tall and curvy 7/10 face. Took bus 775 N-10 back.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting the Clinicas you checked out. I will add these to my List.
[QUOTE=DreamCarnarvon;2875066]Just want to give a quick report on 4 clinicas in and around the Metro station Vila Sonia........[/QUOTE]Good to read about little reported in ISG clinicas. Great to venture off the beaten track.
Def nominate RickyRick95 report below for ROD. Great read, reminding us all why Scandallo is top spot worldwide. Love all the detail. You truly feel like you are there. Super glad you got to experience that second girl at Scandallo. That's what we go there for. She was your classic Brasileira in attitude — fully in the moment and truly enjoying her time with you. Not just doing a job and clocking out.
Top report! Thanks RR.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2875083]On Google maps it says Casarao is open regular hours on Sundays. True? I found that a bit surprising but would be great. Anyone been? Lame?[/QUOTE]Casarao is basically open 7 days a week, even most holidays.
Sundays aren't terrible, and in fact you can find some gems who work at other clubs the rest of the week, so it can be worthwhile. This Sunday I sessioned with a girl who normally works at Bomboa, and I've seen a Scandallo girl or two there, though not the top tier ones obviously. My only warning is it can take longer for things to get busy, on a Sunday it could easily be a ghost town until 1-2 am. Worth the trip IMO as long as you don't mind potentially being out until 4 am.
Also great post Ricky. As far as the girl complaining about the club charging her R300, that's the fine for missing a day. Girls are scheduled to work five days, and if they miss any of them they owe the fine for that week.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2875003]As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappointing. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. Thanks for all the information it was really helpful.[/QUOTE]And another successful convert to the ways of the Brazilian bunda! Yep, yep. Go to Brazil. Butt fuck one of your favorite porn stars. Sounds familiar LMAO! Welcome to the club!
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2875003]As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
[/QUOTE]And this is how it is done!
Great report and I am counting down the days till my next trip in Feb 2024.
Hello gents!
I will be solo-visiting SP from Dec 17-22 before heading to Rio and Buzios. Please DM me and we could exchange details.
Also hit me up if any of you would like to catch up for a drink or something.
Decided to hit up Casarao and take a break from my regulars in Sao Paulo. Got there around 11:45 pm. Glad packed probably around 50 plus girls with equal or more guys to match. Did my walk through to the back and down the stairs for a couple rounds to see the talent. And sadly there wasn't much that I liked. Posted up and watched the scene. Had multiple girls try to make eye contact, position themselves in front of me to the point of damn standing on my toes. I think maybe one girl sparked my interest out of the 50 plus there but after more examination I lost interest. I know I sound like and old man but definitely not what it use to be. This use to be a sure fire hotness location for 200-300 reais. Maybe just a bad night. I stayed an hour and went to Bomboa.
Bomboa was packed but it's small so didn't need that man people there to pack it out. Much better looking women but less than 50 with maybe 40 dudes there. Sat by the bar after waiter tried to sit me where I didn't want. Soon as I got a drink, I got hounded by different girls trying to talk to me. Politely declined them because I wanted to see who all was there. But it was pointless because as soon as one walked away others came all dang night. So I just gave up and bought two of the ones that were trying everything in the book to talk to me. I thought I can just sit and drink with them while peeping out the scene. I tried to let them know I wasnt going to program with them but they still kept trying. There were some girls that I did want to talk to but they were already with a couple guys so I just called it a night. One of the girls I declined and brought a drink asked me for a caixinha, gorjeta or tip. And I ask for what and the other girl start laughing. I say my goodbyes and the waiter who tried to seat me pops out nowhere when I'm at the counter paying to leave. He ask the same thing the girl did and I tell him the same thing, for what? You didn't do anything. I tipped the bartender already and didn't see any need to tip anyone else. Then my Uber comes and a guy outside runs to open the door and keeps it open asking me for a tip. I just act like I don't understand and tell him chao chao. Luckily I've been doing this long enough to know you can't win every night and live to monger another day.
Thanks for the solid reportage on a timely issue currently evolving in Bomboa. Here's is a little personal background info to add to the story: I visited Bamboa for the first time in Nov 2021 shortly after it reopened. I was assigned a waiter, I have forgotten his name, but I will get it tonight when I go there tonight. He was 1st rate and he never had the presumption to ask for a tip, but I gave him a little something (200 Br) for his excellent service during my cumulative 8 bar visits that trip although I admit I was reluctant to give him a tip because as I understand local customs, Brazil is not a tipping culture and I really prefer not to stand out or act differently than the locals.
Anyway, things went the same way at Bomboa on my 3rd Brazil trip in April 2022. Same Waiter / no tip requests / great service and I rewarded him with another cumulative tip before I left town.
But then on my 4th visit in Nov 2022 things changed. I was assigned a new waiter, and I went along with the change because my old waiter knew and approved the change and I therefore saw no reason to object. My new waiter was a short guy with short hair. I forgot his name, but again I might get it tonight for full disclosure. He was a good waiter, but when I went to the front desk to settle my bill, he took me aside and hit me up for a tip. I told him I was a repeat customer, and he should talk to my old waiter about how I treated him. Then I added if you don't bother me anymore about a tip, I will remember to take care of you before I leave town. I looked him straight in the eye and said, do you understand me? And he replied, yes Sir.
Ok, mission accomplished or so I thought. But the dummy kept pestering about a tip each and every time (6 x total) that I visited Bomboa during the remainder of that trip. The end result: he got nada from me and that is what he deserved IMHO.
Anyway, fast forward to my following May / June 2023 SP trip. Undeterred by pesky waiters BS, I went to Bomboa early on in that trip and the 1st thing I did was to request my old waiter be reinstated as my waiter. I made the request right in front of both men. Fuck it! I spend enough money in this joint to have the way I like it and I was not in the mood to take anymore shite from the impertinent waiter. I didn't give a damn what he thought. The end result: I was no longer bothered by the guy and I continued to my patronage of the club while nobody hit me up for another tip.
Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.
[QUOTE=Global00;2876043] I stayed an hour and went to Bomboa.
Bomboa was packed but it's small so didn't need that man people there to pack it out. Much better looking women but less than 50 with maybe 40 dudes there. Sat by the bar after waiter tried to sit me where I didn't want. Soon as I got a drink, I got hounded by different girls trying to talk to me. Politely declined them because I wanted to see who all was there. But it was pointless because as soon as one walked away others came all dang night. So I just gave up and bought two of the ones that were trying everything in the book to talk to me. I thought I can just sit and drink with them while peeping out the scene. I tried to let them know I wasnt going to program with them but they still kept trying. There were some girls that I did want to talk to but they were already with a couple guys so I just called it a night. One of the girls I declined and brought a drink asked me for a caixinha, gorjeta or tip. And I ask for what and the other girl start laughing. I say my goodbyes and the waiter who tried to seat me pops out nowhere when I'm at the counter paying to leave. He ask the same thing the girl did and I tell him the same thing, for what? You didn't do anything. I tipped the bartender already and didn't see any need to tip anyone else. Then my Uber comes and a guy outside runs to open the door and keeps it open asking me for a tip. I just act like I don't understand and tell him chao chao. Luckily I've been doing this long enough to know you can't win every night and live to monger another day.[/QUOTE]
Hi, I appreciate all the contributors here.
My first visit to Brazil will be in the last week of December and I wonder about vibes at that time.
I will visit clubs / termas mostly, while staying in two cities: 2 or 3 nights from Monday in SP, 2 or 3 nights from Wednesday in RJ, Saturday night in SP.
I heard that many stores / restaurants are closed on weekends, so I am especially wondering how it is in clubs / termas on Saturday in SP.
I have a return flight on Sunday night (Dec. 31). What can I do in the afternoon?
I prefer somewhere I can choose from multiple girls and I can take a shower after a session.
I think clinicas are a good option. Are they mostly closed on Sundays? I think someone said so in a post.
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
Then, what is the best way to exchange USD to Real?
I do not have an account that waives ATM fees.
What about foreign exchange shops? Are there reliable exchange shops in safe areas?
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2876257]Hi, I appreciate all the contributors here.
My first visit to Brazil will be in the last week of December and I wonder about vibes at that time.
I will visit clubs / termas mostly, while staying in two cities: 2 or 3 nights from Monday in SP, 2 or 3 nights from Wednesday in RJ, Saturday night in SP.
I heard that many stores / restaurants are closed on weekends, so I am especially wondering how it is in clubs / termas on Saturday in SP.
I have a return flight on Sunday night (Dec. 31). What can I do in the afternoon?
I prefer somewhere I can choose from multiple girls and I can take a shower after a session.
I think clinicas are a good option. Are they mostly closed on Sundays? I think someone said so in a post.
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
Then, what is the best way to exchange USD to Real?
I do not have an account that waives ATM fees.
What about foreign exchange shops? Are there reliable exchange shops in safe areas?[/QUOTE]Saturday's are fine. No worries. Sundays are tougher. Tanagara is open but most of the higher end clinicas are closed. Just use the ATM. The bank ATM fee will be tiny compared to money exchangers. Just make sure to choose the "no conversion" option to get the best rate.
Importantly Brasil is not like US with ATM in every hotel and open all hours. Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2876278]
Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.[/QUOTE]If you find yourself in a bind just Google: 24 HR ATMs near me.
Cheers!
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2876257]
But as I search Tangara and Yankin on google map, they are open on Sundays.
So I am confused.
To pay girls with cash, daily withdrawal or exchange for that night seems to be the best as I think.
[/QUOTE]Prime and Miruna are also open on Sunday.
You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATMs. The Bradesco ATM at GRU is on the second floor of T2 where the small food court is, look up when you are on first floor.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2876204]Thanks for the solid reportage on a timely issue currently evolving in Bomboa. Here's is a little personal background info to add to the story: I visited Bamboa for the first time in Nov 2021 shortly after it reopened. I was assigned a waiter, I have forgotten his name, but I will get it tonight when I go there tonight. He was 1st rate and he never had the presumption to ask for a tip, but I gave him a little something (200 Br) for his excellent service during my cumulative 8 bar visits that trip although I admit I was reluctant to give him a tip because as I understand local customs, Brazil is not a tipping culture and I really prefer not to stand out or act differently than the locals.
Anyway, things went the same way at Bomboa on my 3rd Brazil trip in April 2022. Same Waiter / no tip requests / great service and I rewarded him with another cumulative tip before I left town.
But then on my 4th visit in Nov 2022 things changed. I was assigned a new waiter, and I went along with the change because my old waiter knew and approved the change and I therefore saw no reason to object. My new waiter was a short guy with short hair. I forgot his name, but again I might get it tonight for full disclosure. He was a good waiter, but when I went to the front desk to settle my bill, he took me aside and hit me up for a tip. I told him I was a repeat customer, and he should talk to my old waiter about how I treated him. Then I added if you don't bother me anymore about a tip, I will remember to take care of you before I leave town. I looked him straight in the eye and said, do you understand me? And he replied, yes Sir.
Ok, mission accomplished or so I thought. But the dummy kept pestering about a tip each and every time (6 x total) that I visited Bomboa during the remainder of that trip. The end result: he got nada from me and that is what he deserved IMHO.
Anyway, fast forward to my following May / June 2023 SP trip. Undeterred by pesky waiters BS, I went to Bomboa early on in that trip and the 1st thing I did was to request my old waiter be reinstated as my waiter. I made the request right in front of both men. Fuck it! I spend enough money in this joint to have the way I like it and I was not in the mood to take anymore shite from the impertinent waiter. I didn't give a damn what he thought. The end result: I was no longer bothered by the guy and I continued to my patronage of the club while nobody hit me up for another tip.
Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.[/QUOTE]I never give a tip to anyone who asks for one and that includes chicas even if they have rendered good service. I went into this Chinese store in Boca chica, the DR and this security dude with a shot gun hit me up for a tip when I was departing, WTF??!!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2876204]T
Now the question arises: did my pesty waiter ever request a tip from local customers? I am not 100% sure about this, although I highly doubt it. So that is the issue. Are some of the staff practicing price discrimination against gringos and other foreign customers? And if so, what is management's position on this?
The guys at the front door never hit me up for a tip in the past. They know who I am, and we always exchanged in a little friendly banter on my way in and out of the bordello. I always thought they were good guys. So, tonight is going to be interesting. KKK. And I will update the story after I check things out.
A. H.[/QUOTE]I think they probably ask foreigners because I didn't notice locals being asked while I checked out and waited for my Uber. It's annoying for sure but the women make up for but I was surprised one of the girls asked me for "caixinha", "gorjetas" (tips). Especially when I never approached her, tried to get away from her LOL. But it is what it is. I just politely tell them no or I'm not interested and they leave me alone for tips.
[QUOTE=Global00;2876440]I think they probably ask foreigners because I didn't notice locals being asked while I checked out and waited for my Uber. It's annoying for sure but the women make up for but I was surprised one of the girls asked me for "caixinha", "gorjetas" (tips). Especially when I never approached her, tried to get away from her LOL. But it is what it is. I just politely tell them no or I'm not interested and they leave me alone for tips.[/QUOTE]One time at Bomboa a chick asked me if I would buy her some ice cream. I agreed, and we sat there and had a nice conversation while she ate the ice cream and I enjoyed my drink. And that was the extent of it. Another time at Centaurus in Rio, a girl who I had just taken to the room asked me afterwards in the boate if I would buy her a sandwich. Although the session had been decent, I really wasn't into her. Didn't really care for her personality. So, my answer was "no". Buy your own damn sandwich with the money I just paid you!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2876385]Prime and Miruna are also open on Sunday. You can withdraw 2500 from most Bradesco ATMs. The Bradesco ATM at GRU is on the second floor of T2 where the small food court is, look up when you are on first floor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2876293]If you find yourself in a bind just Google: 24 HR ATMs near me. Cheers![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2876278]Saturday's are fine. No worries. Sundays are tougher. Tanagara is open but most of the higher end clinicas are closed. Just use the ATM. The bank ATM fee will be tiny compared to money exchangers. Just make sure to choose the "no conversion" option to get the best rate. Importantly Brasil is not like US with ATM in every hotel and open all hours. Best to get all you need before 10 Pm.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers.
Here are some more questions.
Scandallo and Casarao are in my*plan. I heard that girls are mostly dressed (unlike FKKs where girls are almost naked). Would it be easy to check how tits look like before going into*a session?*After I show interest to a girl, while talking / drinking together before negotiation, are they okay showing their tits or are they reluctant?
I want to spend a night by bringing a girl to my place. Is there any extra fee that I need to pay to the club (like a bar fine in Thai)? Are most hotels okay with bringing*a girl? What about those labelled as "apartments" on booking dot com or expedia? I remember some other sites (wikisexguide or girlsheaven) clearly saying that not many hotels are girl-friendly in*Brazil, so they listed a few girl-friendly hotels. I know in the worst case, I need to find a love motel.
In terms of overnight stay with a girl, as I read here, it is suggested to have a session inside a club and then meet outside the next day or a few days later, to make sure that the girl is reliable and has good*chemistry. Actually my biggest concern is being robbed of money / valuables while I am in a deep sleep. Can I ask more of your thoughts on that?
For overnight stay, detailed negotiation*is also required? Like how many hours, how many times of*sex and what extras, etc. I want to include BBBJ, cum in mouth (or on boobs) and fingering (with my fingers covered with a condom) as extras.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2875003]As previously indicated last week made my first visit to SP after being a very hyped up place for mongering, let me begin by saying just one thing, usually after having big expectations of something reality can be often disappoiting. Let me tell you, in this case the expectations were met and surpassed. If you guys bear with me I will tell my experience in a long and detail manner as all was very striking to me as all were my firsts in SP, and also through writing I relive those great memories.
1 rst day Thursday 30th Web escort-famous content creator / porn actress.
After arriving very early on the morning, took an uber directly to a mall very close to my Airbnb in Vila Olimpia, my telephone company fortunately gives me international data for Brazil at no extra cost, perk of having the same telephone company in both countries. After arriving at the mall my buddy and I, change the dollars we had to BRL Reais, the rate was not great but definitely better than the airport, I guess foreigners can't get the rate that indicates Google but oh well the difference was not that much. After that we had breakfast and contacted my Airbnb host to check the possibility of an early check in. As I was in a hurry to get in the Airbnb to get freshed up because as I mentioned in my previous posts I had booked Luiza Marcato a well known escort and content creator for that same very day early in the after noon, before the check in time in my Airbnb. I did this because it was her last day in SP and the only hour she was available. Well long story short the host try to sped up the cleaning of the apartment so I could check in early but I was not fast enough and had no other choice to go to Luiza's flat as I was after a 5 hour flight, hoping she would lend me her shower. Took an uber to her flat and left my buddy at the Airbnb lobby. In appearance it was short distance but due to the horrible SP traffic and me saying this coming from a city in south America known for having one of the worst traffics, is saying something. Well after a 30 min ride I arrived, checked with Luiza if she was ready, responded that she needed a couple of minutes, so I waited in the lobby and after a few minutes she told me the apartment number, went to the receptionist and in my "Portuol" announced my visit, the receptionist called Luiza and told me to wait for her to come down for me as the elevators only work with a key, which a first did not understand and tried to go up on the elevator, which obviously did not work and the receptionist had to tell me again to wait till she came down for me if I did not have a key, which only then I understood. I was only a few hours in SP with few hours sleep, felt a little embarrassed for my inexperience in this types of affairs so I waited in the lobby until a couple of minutes later she came down and god damned what a women she was in a tight gym outfit highlighting her amazing figure, a rock solid ass and great tits. Quickly went up with her, got in her apartment told her I only speak a little Portuguese and helpfully she indeed speak a little Spanish with a Spain accent for some reason, I assumed she may had work in Spain. But after some chitchat in which we could communicate well, after all Spanish and Portuguese are very similar, I could take a shower thank goodness. As I left the bathroom I found her totally naked in all 4's waiting for me, amazing view of that ass so I could not resist and started kissing that ass and gave a few licks to that pussy. After that the performance was as you could expect from a porn actress real hardcore, DFK, sloppy BBBJ looking at me with those stricking grayish eyes as she performed. Balls sucking and deepthroat as rough as I wanted, a dream come true after jercking off to her videos for the last couple of years. Then sex in various positions and as she was riding me in cowgirl she told me, "now in my culo", and before I could realize what she meant she stuck my cock in her asshole and started riding me even harder. Anal is not really my thing but I really enjoyed that tight ass, and that girl really loved it as well as I pound that ass as hard as I could. After a while she started sucking me off hard as I CIM. Totally ecstatic after that I took another shower, and chatted various trivial thing she was very nice and friendly told me she had been filming content the last few days and that finding pro male talent was hard, and more trivial friendly matters. After that I told her I was ready again, started with another hardcore BBBJ, after I got hard more pounding in several positions until again I CIM, unfortunately she does not swallow. After that I asked her if I could take a few pictures as a souvenir, she must have liked me somewhat because she agreed, even though when coordinating our date before she clearly stated she did not allowed videos or photos as she was a pro. But I believed that after telling her all the effort I made to be able to see her, practically getting of the plane directly to see her, it earn me some points, so she allowed me to take a few pictures of her amazing ass with me as well in the mirror and some selfies of us kissing as if were lovers. What a woman hot as hell and also very kind and lovely, Sp had welcomed me in a great way and this was only the preamble of my experiences in the next couple of days. After another shower got dressed, payed her and said goodbye with a couple more passionate kisses and she gently caressed my crotch for the last time before parting ways.
After that went back to my Airbnb to find my buddy already checked in, resting in the apartment. Went out to dinner, planning to rest for the night even though we knew Thursdays was the best day at Scandallo but we were totally exhausted, as my buddy had also sessioned with a web escort he found in Splove that had a place a couple of blocks away from our Airbnb, great session as well according to him, even though he would later regret this escapade, you will see why later.
So we decided to call it a night after a couple of beers and watching the local beautys walk past by in the mall, man you fall in love in every corner in this fucking city, and hope for the best at scandallo on Friday.
2nd day Friday 1st The world's famous Scandallo
The next day we did some tourist stuff in the morning visited Parque Ibirapuera where we feasted our eyes not only with the natural beauty of the park, which had very central park vibes, but mainly with the local women God damn! What beautiful women, you could find every type of girl you could imagine blonds, brunnetes, mulatas, Latina type it was an impressive diversity. Some times I forgot I was in south America and not in some Cosmopolitan European city. I've been to the states many times and I have never seen so many beatyful girls in that quantity anywhere.
Well after more touristy stuff in the afternoon we got back to the Airbnb to get ready for Scandallo, we decided to go before 7 pm to not pay the R200 cover that you have to pay after 7.
We took an uber around 5:45 pm after drinking a couple of beers to get in the mood, the uber took several minutes to arrive and we where afraid we would not get to scandallo in time before 7, due to the Sp traffic. Fortunately the traffic was not so bad and after 40 min we arrived, I must confess I was a little nervous did not know exactly why maybe excitement to finally visited the much hyped scandallo or maybe at the same time fear to be disappointed due to my high expectations. In any case we arrived, got inside reception after being checked by security, the first impression already was positive the place looked very classy as the lobby of a high end hotel would look like. As I was registering a woman passed by looking amazing and in that moment all my fears of being disappointed fade away. After being registered and had being explained how the card system worked we went up in the elevator. FUCK as we walked out of the elevator, even though the ambiance was very calm as it was early, there where at least 10-15 girls in the sofas outside the restaurant area, it was very overwhelming because all of these insanely hot girls all dressed in spectacular fashions were staring at us, as we were figuring out what the hell we should do, I quickly decided, before the pressure of being stared at by a bunch of super model types of girls burn a hole in my skull, to go to the restaurant area. Passed in front of all this girls just to find an amazing quiet area where people where having drinks and dinner, an area that you would usually find in a high end restaurant in any city of the world. Still very overwhelmed we sat down with my buddy and feasted our eyes with the 30 plus girls that were there at that early part of the evening, we ordered a couple of drinks and decided to chill out a bit to digest if all of this was real or if we were just dreaming. Although there were not that many girls as later in the night would be, the girls still were hot as hell every type you could imagine. My buddy and I were like children in a candyshop drooling at every "candy" in the shelf, the next looking tastier than the last one. Previously we decided our "strategy" that we would not invite or approach at any women before 10-11 pm, where supposedly most of the women arrived. Although I had seen a couple girls, especially one that was very slim but with curves a tiny waist a great ass and really cute young face, that if I had no previously decided not to do anything before said time I would have in an instant called her for a couple of drinks, but for better or worse decided to wait for later in the night. As we were in the restaurant having a couple caipirinhas we were approached by at least 3 pairs of girls trying to accompany us, but after some chichat the classics where are you from, first time here, etc, We politely send them away, we were determined to stick to our plan. As we were enjoying our time just drinking and watching all the amazing girls pass by and slowly arriving more girls and gentlemen we thought the terrace patio area was close for being too early because from the restaurant the entrance to the patio was closed, so we did not move from the restaurant for like 2-3 hours until we realize the other areas were already open, maybe there were always open but because we did not move from the restaurant we didn't know, so we decided to finally move and check around, passed the disco area and games area to reach the patio, where it was already full with people and even more beautiful girls we did not see at the restaurant, we sat down at one of the few free spots and watched the whole show like 50 plus girls already there standing in the bar or just in the middle of the area as if they were waiters just waiting to be called by a client, if I was already overwhelmed this exploded my mind. We sat there for a few minutes until a couple of girls approached us and sat down with us, before asking if that was ok, as it was already close to 10 pm we decided to start chatting so we let them stay. They were a stunning curvy blond and a stunning slim brunet for my buddy, we talked the classic stuff and although they were very nice at least the blonde was in mi case she even invited my her vape but I was not planning to be hunted I wanted to be the hunter I wanted to choose not be chosen so even though the chat was very nice and the blonde was hot as hell I did not show a sign of even inviting her a drink much less to have a session as I play dumb and told her I did not know how the fucking system worked in scandallo, she explain that most of the girls fee was R1500 and the in the second floor was a hotel that cost R300 plus the girls fee. I faked surprised at the fee and told her I was not sure if I was going to session that night, so after a couple of minutes she took off to the "bathroom". Obviously she did not came back and my buddy's brunnet also took off, in my buddy's case he was interested in the girl but some actituted of the girl put him off, according to him this girl seemed very desperate to go have a session also she seemed very intense in the way that she asked my buddy in what he worked on, if he could give her a job and started complaining that scandallo was abusive in their treatment of the girls because they charge them 300 R for the entrance same as men but not consumable just a fee to enter and work there, so that attitude put off my buddy, complaining, desperate to session was a downer for him, apparently this girl's strategy was to make men feel sorry for her, but in this kind of place you come to have fun not to hear a girl complaining about her life. So she left after realizing with my buddy it was going nowhere.
Well after the first chats with the girls I was decided I was going to choose this time not be chosen but before I could do anything a couple of new girls approached us a blond for my buddy and a brunnet with tan skin, mulata type but with a big bunda and thick legs for me, because she sat down so fast and did not see where she came from and could not check her body out completely. But oh well I let her stay to chat a little and surprisingly she was very charming she knew a lot of things from my country as she had lived there 3 months for a university exchange or something spoke Spanish and we really hit it off, she was all flirty so she convinced me to invite her a drink, we kept chatting and before a realize my buddy was leaving with her blond quite fast. Later he told me she was very flirty and reminded him of a American porstar he really liked and most of all because she agreed to a fee of R600. For me she was a tier 2 girl, because she was on the older side 34 yo, but my buddy likes bargains and from 1500 to 600 looked like the offer of the year to him so he took her upstairs for a session. After my buddy left I stay with my girl for 30 min or so thinking she is no exactly my type but as we are really hitting it off at least this will be a great fuck, we chatted a little more kissed a little and then negotiated the rate she told me the standard rate the apparently all the girls have stablished as default is R1500, I told her that it was my first time I did not know those were the prices and only had R600, she told me playfully that it was too low but as she liked my she could accept 800. So I agreed and off we went, as I was following her to the elevator to pick her stuff up and go to the rooms, I could finally checked her body out and she was too thick for my usual tastes but oh well resigned to at least have a great performance with her I continued. Once in the rooms she took her close off and as mentioned it was not I was hoping for, of course she still was hot but not what I wanted in my personal taste, other thing was that in a rookie mistake a did not clarify the terms of the Service BBBJ, number of shots, etc. So she wanted to start sucking me off covered and surprised I thought, damn it I screw up did not clarify the Service terms beforehand, so in that moment I asked her if I could have BBBJ she said no she did no do that, but as I begged her just the tip at least, I guess she thought well fuck it and started Licking the tip but I guess she could not control herself and started going full BBBJ hardcore sloppy and forgot about the rubber. After that Little impasse was sorted out the session continued great with several positions, DFK, hard pounding in doggy, hard ass spanking, choking her throat real hardcore until a I cum in the rubber. In between shots she took out a dildo from her bag and said to me now is my turn to cum, she started masturbating while she told me to suck her tits, I must admit that was really hot a proof, I thought, that this Brazilian girls really enjoy this shit is not a mere job for them. After a while she cummed and I was hard again and continue pounding her hard until she came a couple more times, finally I also cum in the rubber again after pounding her ass so hard that I left it red, she really liked it rough. After that I asked her if I could take a couple pics she said ok but not of her face, she cover her face with the pillow and took a couple of pictures of that big bunda.
As we finished I was thinking that I wanted another girl even though this session was pretty great I wanted a girl more of my taste slim white with European features model type but with that Brazilian bunda, that mix of European features and Brazilian curves for me at least is the best, is the type of girl it would be impossible to find in my country, big ass thick Latina type you can find easily that is why I wanted the type of girl I could not fuck in my country. So we finished and she told me that now I could go rest drink a couple more caipirinhas and if I wanted fuck another girl, she was very nice and funny. Most if not all Brazilian girls are like this very friendly and outgoing like they are genuinely your friend.
I went down met my buddy and immediately did rigurous math in my mind to figure out if I had enough cash for a second session. I had planned to pay for everything in cash but after doing the math in my head I realice that I only had BR800 tops for the session and the room would had to be paid with CC.
My buddy was done for the night but not for lack of energy for another session but for lack of cash regretting the session he had with the girl he found on the web yesterday considering all the options for a second session he had there lesson learned for next time, so I told him that I wanted another session with a girl more of type he didn't have a problem of hanging out until I had my second session just enjoying the view of the many girls that were there a 12 am around 100 or so. So as I was again a little overwhelmed again for the vast options I had at my disposal did not know who to choose now, I thought I had to choose carefully now, so as I was roaming the room I see the Slim girl I with the tiny waist I saw at the beginning of the night now in a different set of clothes, I noticed girls change their outfits as the night progresses. But as I saw her I also notice she is with a dude they were very close and she was hanging from the guys neck as he was very tall, I though well I lost my chance in the end waiting for something better does not always pays, if you see someone you like a lot just call her immediately next time, thought to myself. My buddy told me that if I liked her so much wait for her to return after she sessions with the guy but it thought nehh, with some many hot girls around why should I wait for one girl. But as I was saying this a notice the girl leaves the dude and she returns to the disco area and I saw her standing there with the rest of the girls, fuck it I go as fast as I can and approach her told her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, we went to the restaurant and I asked her what she like to drink, she did not speak Spanish but she told me she spoke english so we started speaking English, I noticed then she was a Little tipsy and she indeed told me she had much to drink and only ordered a coconut water and I order a beer, but seeing her up close I even liked her more she was really beautiful. But as the waiter brings our beverages she tells me to excuse her for a bit she has to go to the bathroom, she leaves and I was very happy imagining what she would like later sucking my cock with that beautiful inocent looking face with striking green eyes. But quickly I am brought down to reality as almost 10 min passes and the girl does not return, I am starting to worry, my buddy then texts my asking me if I was still with the same girl, I told her I am waiting for her that she went to the bathroom but she was taking too long, he tells me that he just saw her with the same dude we saw her before I approached her, they went for the rooms. I could not believe what a ***** she was by leaving me after ordering her fucking drink. My buddy then comes where I was, and tells me that he saw the girl apparently indeed returning from the bathroom but the guy approached her again and immediately took her to the elevator for the rooms. My guess is he was bargaining her fee before, they did not reach an agreement and she left and in that moment is when I approach her, the dude must have seen me with her thinking he lost his chance and as he saw her alone coming from the bathroom took her immediately to the rooms for the fee she asked him. Still she was a ***** for leaving me hanging after ordering a fucking drink, least she could do was to tell me she was leaving and she was sorry but she was way to drunk to care or embarrassed for making me order something and then leave. Well shit happens, left with my buddy the restaurant area and went back to the patio where I sat down for a bit and as the night was not getting any younger I quickly scouted the area and the first Slim girl with European features I saw I quickly approached her. Ask her if I could invite her a drink she gladly said yes, she was with a friend and as she saw me with my buddy she told me if my buddy did not want company I told her he already sessioned he was resting, she said ok and ordered a gin and tonic and off we went for a sofa to have a chat. She was the kind of girl I was looking for Slim but with curves great fake tits and fit, she did speak really Good Spanish that she learned from just talking to clients, she never studied it, she was well versed in many subjects and was fun and friendly, she told me that Fridays and Saturdays where slow days for me that day was awesome with lots of girls she insisted that was nothing that Thursdays and Wednesdays are in another level with double the girls, damn I could not imagine even more girls, she also told me some gossip that many famous people from Brasil and the world visited scandallo, from the local famous she could not speak but from the international one she told me that last one to visit was a very famous American pop Singer top of the charts in recent years that was just recently touring south America this past months. Even I went to his concert when he visited my country, big fan. She told me he came to hang out a bit in a private area on the second floor of the disco and after a while pick 4 girls and took them to his suite in some hotel in the city. She thought that as he was American he would be into big bunda thick latina type and thought he would not choose her, but was all the opposite he liked Slim White girls and giggling told me he choose her and 3 other girls, I guess now me and of my favorite artists are as we call in my country "hermanos de leche" or eskimo brothers, when 2 guys have fucked the same girl hahaha.
After a pleasant time chatting an hour or so when she finished her drink, started the negotiating part and the same as all the other girls standard R1500, told her that was my first time here did not know the prices I could offer her R700, she told me impossible her bare minimum is R1000, I insisted was too much for me and she left it a 900, for R100 was not letting her go so of we went to the rooms. In the elevators we found another couple they started speaking Portuguese and my girl told them it was my first time there the other girl laugh said that it was the first time of her guy too even though he was a local, he asked me where I was from, all laughing, and my girl said she did not believe it was the guy's first time he had a face of being a seasoned monger, all was in Portuguese but I understood, we all laugh and each couple went to their room. What a place scandallo a utopia for men. Well once in the room we took a shower saw my girl's body fully naked as we showered what a beautiful woman she used minimum make up and looked natural but still was really amazing and cute GND type of style. Just as we were finishing the shower I once again realized that I did not clarify the terms of the Service number of shots, BBBJ or DFK. But all my fears went I away as we lay on the bed I could not resist at that beautiful Pink pussy and started a DATY, watching her cute face enjoying it was one of my top experiences after a while she told me to go 69 so she can suck my cock. Indeed we went on 69, I was eating that pussy as my life depended on it and she just began the BBBJ included balls and all also putting her tongue near my asshole that girl really liked to suck dick thankfully she did not try to pull a CBJ like the last girl, also as I was eating her out put my finger in her ass making her shake a tremble in pleasure. After that I put on the rubber and begin the fuck fest, in every position with DFK for a longtime as this was my second session of the night I was not that sensitive, after 30 min of continued pounding I asked her if she wanted to rest because I was not Cumming, she told me she wanted to go on. But I was exhausted of so much pounding so I told her I need 5 to rest. We lay down and cuddle full GFE with soft kissing. After a few minutes I was ready again we begin with another BBBJ and then sex in various positions having the view of that girl riding was like I was on a dream. She rode me so hard I could feel she was Cumming I asked her if she indeed was and she ask me how did I know. I told her I felt her pussy twitching on my cock and the for intensity of how she was riding me. Finally I had her in doggy fucking her as hard as I could, that white ass was left all red of all the pounding, when I finally cummed in the rubber. After that we lay on bed glaring at each other's eyes as she was stroking my hair, telling me she really liked me that I was cheiroso and muito gatinho, this girls have a way of making you feel really desired and that are really into you I guess what you call IoP, for a moment a did really believe that I even blushed at her compliments. For a moment we were falling asleep but it was getting late and I had left my buddy waiting so I quickly got up and went to the shower with her. We got clean and she offered me mouthwash she had in her bag. I asked her a photo as a souvenir she agreed but with clothes on but I was so ecstatic and happy that I completely forgot to ask her by the end of the session regrettably. One interesting thing she told me, I don't know if it is true for all the girls is that for older men they charge more, this came up because she told me I have baby face I am in my late 20's but that is a thing many girls have told me, that is why I grew up a beard to look older, I told her this but she replied saying that looking younger was a good thing even more in a place like this because, that's when she told me, that they charge more to older men, she told me for example she charged a Chilean man in his 50's R2500, and so I should be happy to look Young. I guess it's true that some girls charge you more if they really don't like you, in this girl's case she charges more to older men others may charge more to overweight men or to a guy that for some reason they don't like. She also told me that she is very respectful when a guy a approaches her she stays with him until he wants, she told me she saw a regular of hers but as I approach her before he did, she stayed with me even though her regular gave her some disappointed looks when he saw us leaving for the rooms. A very respectful approach unlike the other girl the left me hanging to go with another guy.
Even though I forgot to ask for the picture at least in the end I asked her number to contact her through whatsapp, for a next time I am in SP. She gladly gave it to me.
After that we parted ways with a Kiss, I looked for my buddy and left after paying the consumable card fee with CC because I had burned through all my cash with the 2 sessions.
Finally left around 3:30 am happy after finally getting to experience what many call paridise on earth, did not disappoint one of those rare ocations where all the hype and big expectations are met and surpassed. And it was a slow day only god knows how it would be in a Thursday. Sadly I had destined the rest of my mongering money to a threesome with 2 hot girls from the web that I've been gollowing on twitter for some time for the next day, I left wanting to come back day after as well but I would not be possible. As this post is already incredible long then threesome will be post later.
Thank for all the information it was really helpful. Attached a couple of pics of scandallo.[/QUOTE]How much did she charge? I follow her on Twitter been wanting to get my hands on her. Got to love SP for the ability to fuck porn stars.
As planned I went to Bomboa for the 1st time this trip last Saturday night. My previous experiences were that Saturdays are usually slow Boate nights in SP, but I was confident that I would still find what I wanted or at the very least find what I needed. KKK, I mean, wtf, Bomboa has never let me down thus far.
So, I arrived around 9:30. One of the front door guys remembered me and gave me strong handshake / welcome back. I walked into the joint past the front desk and the 1st guy I bumped into was Marcos, the good waiter I mentioned in my previous post. He seemed to be genuinely happy and a little surprised to see me back in the fold. He and another waiter (not the pest) gave me a firm handshake followed up with 2 big bear hugs. This warm welcoming occurred in front of the 5 or 6 girls siting at the tables that line the wall on the right side of the room. I looked their way to see how my reception was being perceived. I think the girls were duly impressed. Ha Ha. But, that is one of things I like about Bomboa. It is like a friendly neighborhood bordello where everyone knows your name.
As expected, however, it looked like it was going to be a quiet night. I counted maybe 40 to 45 girls present (maybe less), and no more than 10 customers. I sat among the girls along the wall and ordered a coke zero. The girl on my right was an ok blond, but the girl on my left was definitely not my type, so naturally the girl on my left wanted a cheek kiss and she began hitting on me. I told her I did not speak Porto and waited for her to give up on the idea of sweeping me off my feet.
I ordered a coke zero, then got up, and roamed around the place, spotting 3 or 4 girls that looked like real possibles. Then I sat down in a quieter part of the bar where I could just sit back and observe things for a little while. The problem is I am no good at waiting. KKK. So, after I determined who was the prettiest girl, a brunette, currently in the bar, I knew I wasn't going to be able to wait it out much longer for someone better even though I am keenly aware that sometimes waiting 30 to 60 minutes can lead to more results. This girl was cute enough, so I eventually waived her over and she was all smiles.
After the preliminary opening conversation, she placed my hand on her breasts. I knew from across the room that they were silly cones, but I joked, "are they real?" She laughed and said they were now – because she paid for them. Marcos came by and I ordered 2 real drinks for us and yada yada yada, the brunette passed the audition with flying colors. She made her final pitch when she asked what I liked. I said I liked to kiss and make love. She said I do too! Let's go upstairs and I will show you. I asked how much. She said 700. I thought that was fair price so giddy up and away we went.
It was all good in the room. Lots of DFK, a kneeling BBBJ in the shower, a strawberry lubed up BJ in bed, covered vaginal sex in multiple positions, and I / we ended in doggie. There was a lot more to it, but this is the short version. KKK. The bottom line was I had a good time! After we cleaned up and dressed, I gave her, her 700. We exchanged What'sup info and we said our bye bye's near the front desk.
I returned to the bar area and noticed that a few more girls had arrived and naturally I spotted a looker in the form of a very pretty, almost model quality black girl with a slender smoking hot body. She looked enticing, but I just wasn't up for a 2 fer this night, so I did not pursue things. Oh well, when will I learn the art of waiting. KKK. But maybe I will see this girl another time. I will be on the lookout for her.
Then I suddenly realized I was hungry, so I ordered a 6 piece sushi plate. That hit the spot! Then I walked around a little more just to see what was going on. The girl / customer ratio had not changed from earlier and the place was still half empty. It was now between 12:30 to 1 am, so mission accomplished as far as I was concerned, and it was time to go. I paid my tab which came to 500 and change. The bill covered the entry fee, two alcoholic beverages, two cokes, and that small sushi platter. Not cheap by any means: 1200 BR all in including the girl's fee. But not too bad either, all things considered!
I said good bye to Marcos, and walked outside. The boys outside greeted me with smiles, and I gave one of them my proof of payment card. Nobody hit me up for a tip! Since my current hotel was only 2 blocks away, and it was a balmy night, I decided to just walk it. I kept my eyes open, entered into a brisk direct pace, and there were no problemos.
All in all, it was a good night if not quite a great night. I will probably go back to Bomboa sometime during upcoming week, maybe Thursday night, but not before I check out Scandallo. Can you believe I have been in town 10 days or so and I have not been to Scandallo yet? Well, that is not to say I have not been having a great time with my 2 favorite Scandallo girls at my hotel. KKK. Life is good and it is great to be back in the city of women!
Many have asked or made comments on whether a certain place is "girl friendly". Maybe I can offer information to help. What I have found is that almost all places will easily allow you to bring a girl or have one visit you. The gotcha can be that they may want to get her ID and show her as registered. If you book the room for 2 and pay for 2 they just accept it. Being a cad like myself I may want two different ones in the same day. That may or may not be problematic. In one hotel after the first one was registered they did not even look at who was walking in holding my hand and the next one and I just waltzed to the elevator and up to my room.
In my 4 trips this year, one hotel complained that the girls had not been registered when I took them to the breakfast buffet. One the girl offered her ID before I knew what she was doing and there was no issue. And the rest have not been any problem.
Hope this helps alleviate some concerns.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2876483] ...I heard that girls are mostly dressed (unlike FKKs where girls are almost naked). Would it be easy to check how tits look like before going into*a session?*After I show interest to a girl, while talking / drinking together before negotiation, are they okay showing their tits or are they reluctant?.[/QUOTE]I think in general you will have no problem fondling them to see if they are real or not at Scandallo. Some will take them out and show you. It really depends on the girls. But you have to be careful here. If you make a request and they fulfill it, you should be ready to take them, otherwise it could become ugly. I probably would start with by telling the girl that I don't like fake tits. This will give you a way out if they turn out to be fake. The girl likely would just tell you without you seeing them. If they are real, and you proceed to touch them to verify it, then you are making a commitment to take her. If they spent time with you and comply to all your requests, you should be prepare to take the girl, otherwise the girl has every reason to be mad at you.
At Scandallo, you don't need to buy drink for the girl if you just want to talk to her briefly. Many usually would not ask either. I would avoid buying drink at Casarao simply because the place is not setup for that.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2876452]One time at Bomboa a chick asked me if I would buy her some ice cream. I agreed, and we sat there and had a nice conversation while she ate the ice cream and I enjoyed my drink. And that was the extent of it. Another time at Centaurus in Rio, a girl who I had just taken to the room asked me afterwards in the boate if I would buy her a sandwich. Although the session had been decent, I really wasn't into her. Didn't really care for her personality. So, my answer was "no". Buy your own damn sandwich with the money I just paid you![/QUOTE]Yeah, I could see myself buying a cute girl an ice cream and then flirting with her. Why not? It is harmless, good fun. But a few of these girls really try to take advantage. KKK. One time I had just finished off with a pretty, mixed race, Japanese Brazilian gal in Scandallo, so I asked her if she wanted to join me in the patio bar for a nightcap. I ordered a gin tropical and did not specify the gin. The girl asked for a shot of Johnnie Walker Blue Label. The bar tender said he did not have a bottle of blue at this bar, but that he would go get one from the entertainment bar. At that point I interceded and said don't go to the trouble. Old No. 7 would be just fine. The girl did not say a thing.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2876425]I never give a tip to anyone who asks for one and that includes chicas even if they have rendered good service. I went into this Chinese store in Boca chica, the DR and this security dude with a shot gun hit me up for a tip when I was departing, WTF??!![/QUOTE]That is an amazing story. So, did you give the guy a tip? KKK.
Generally, I only tip hotel maids and those individuals who have gone way out of their way to provide great service to me. I do not tip my girls no matter how much I love them. But if I like a girl and I am hungry or thirsty after the main event, I will often times invite her to dinner or offer her a drink. Another crazy, although amazing performer that I was with one time in Scandallo responded to my dinner invitation with one of her own: she asked if I would buy her dinner now, so she could have it later (3 am) before she left the place. Pretty loco, no?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2877075]Generally, I only tip hotel maids and those individuals who have gone way out of their way to provide great service to me. I do not tip my girls no matter how much I love them. But if I like a girl and I am hungry or thirsty after the main event, I will often times invite her to dinner or offer her a drink. Another crazy, although amazing performer that I was with one time in Scandallo responded to my dinner invitation with one of her own: she asked if I would buy her dinner now, so she could have it later (3 am) before she left the place. Pretty loco, no?[/QUOTE]Where local custom (I normally don't tip if it's not customary) I like to tip taxi drivers, wait staff, barbers, and hotel maids. I also like to tip the ladies at the Rio termas who help keep the locker rooms clean, organized, and stocked with clean towels and supplies. They are always so, so appreciative and often give me a big hug! I do not tip people who have done nothing for me or the house. I remember one sanctimonious simp standing in the hallway at Centaurus in Rio who hit me up for a tip. For what? You haven't done shit for me. No! And yeah, that's loco about the girl wanting you to buy her dinner for later. If I offer to buy a girl dinner, it's so that we can spend a little extra time together. But obviously for her, it was about the food and not you. My answer? No! LOL! People man.
I used to have a pair of helpful garsons (sorry, char not accepted in text) in Cafe Photo I tipped. They would call me when certain girls arrived at the club. I always spent few minutes talking with them and pointing the girls in the bar or hearing their suggestions.
Of course my aim are stunners mostly. These two were simply killers doing festinhas (trios) and the garson, Mr. Lima, sent me a whatsapp when they arrived. That's when I picked the blonde. Unfortunately the brunette left with a client few minutes before I arrived and I guess she stopped working 'cause never saw her again.
The blonde was a frequent model and now she works as massagist in Germany. A classy f**k to remember.
Garsons have very valuable information.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2877153]Where local custom (I normally don't tip if it's not customary) I like to tip taxi drivers, wait staff, barbers, and hotel maids. I also like to tip the ladies at the Rio termas who
help keep the locker rooms clean, organized, and stocked with clean towels and supplies.[/QUOTE]
My random replies.
-People who begs for tips or for money should not be given anything. No matter who they are.
-if people ask me for drinks or any of that stuff, I just simply say I only buy drinks for people who goes out with me. Simple and easy and short and they get the message.
- yes we can get registered with Tim phone number without a cpf. It's option three and then option three again when you call on the phone to get it registered. They will transfer you to an English speaking customer rep.
-scandallo it's not what it used to be. A lot of the staff and girls who used to go there are no longer there. The vibe doesn't seem so friendly and relaxing anymore. Or maybe it's just me.
-I learned a hard lesson. Never ever trust those sites where girls don't show their face. 9 out of 10 it will be something worse or it will be a shock. Don't take that chance. It is not worth it because there are many who are transparent and won't deceive us.
-I have been using my phone and taking photos of my documents and showing that to the receptionist or whoever ask us for one. It always works so we don't have to carry any of those passports or driver's license around with us. Just our phones.
-don't use your foreign number on whatsapp. There are some out there who will charge more if they know you are a gringo. Just get a Brazilian number and use it for whatsapp.
Thank you all for the good vibes, glad you guys enjoyed my report. I hope I was able to convey with my report the the emotion a excitement I myself felt reading past reports of Scandallo and SP in general.
Quiet an experience scandallo, having past a couple of weeks since then, sometimes I think if it was a dream or if it really happened hahaha.
[QUOTE=BMo814;2876490]How much did she charge? I follow her on Twitter been wanting to get my hands on her. Got to love SP for the ability to fuck porn stars.[/QUOTE]Not cheap, R1000 for 1 HR but as mentioned in my report the session was all you could hope for in a session with a pornstar, very hardcore, and points extra for her being reallly nice and lovely.
But in my next trips, that if will definitely be having after my wonderful experience, I doubt I will be sessioning with web escorts and / or pornstars especially if I make quick 3-4 days trips, because although I had great sessions, specially the threesome I will be reporting later, I enjoyed more the scandallo experience being able to grab a few drinks with the hot girl of your choosing for and hour or two, getting to know her to see if the chemistry is great, was a more enjoyable experience at least in my opinion. Although web escorts can be, as mentioned, really great fucks, in a place like scandallo you can get more of a Ilussion of passion from girls that at least in my only experience didn't seem to be trully pros. In scandallo even though most of the girls were really hot, when you see them they do not give you a vibe screaming that they are pros sex workers, they can easily pass as hot girls you could find in high end bars and clubs. Also when you talk to them you do not get that pro vibe you get from web escorts or pornstars, meaning that they really seem to be there enjoying their time and for real having a great time and enjoying the session specially if you have great chemistry. Unlike escorts that seem more pro in their behaviors, they try for you to have a good time and try their best and their best is really great but dopes not feel as passionate as a scandallo girl. Obviously meeting a girl and start fucking her 5 minutes later does not give much chance to devolope a true chemistry that can translate to a more great or " more passionate" fuck.
Don't get me wrong pornstars and web escorts are nothing close to being mechanical or cold, nothing but far from it, but the nature of that kind of session, meeting them and instantly start fucking, limits how much "real passion" the session can have.
For that in my experience in my next trip I will be sticking to Scandallo and other similar boates like bomboa. I know is not everyones cup of tea, others may prefer the expeditness of a meet and start fucking situation like clinicas and web escorts and sometimes that is what you need specially when you are a local or on a business trip and don't have much time to be spending 4-6 hours for a fuck. But as a foreigner on vacations with total free time there is nothing better to enjoy your evening drinking, dancing, flirting and fucking sorrounded by a group of the most beatilful women in Brasil.
There is still pending my report on the threesome I had before I left SP. Stay tuned I will be posting it later.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2877068]I think in general you will have no problem fondling them to see if they are real or not at Scandallo. Some will take them out and show you. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2876894]Many have asked or made comments on whether a certain place is "girl friendly". [/QUOTE]Appreciate it.
Arrival.
I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas. Upon arrival, I exited the plane and made my way to customs. I was expecting an insane interrogation for some odd reason. To the contrary, it was an absolute breeze; no paper work to fill out, a smile from the customs agent and a firm stamp on my passport. I've been checked and interrogated in both the DR, Colombia and even my homeland for no reason so this was a pleasant surprise. As I made my way through duty-free, excitement began to build as I saw some of the local talent begin to present itself. At this point, I still had 3 hours to kill before I could check into my place so I took a walk outside to scope out the seen. I met a cool cat outside who was killing time before his connecting flight to Rio and he gave me some insights on Sao Paulo and Rio as we talked for a few minutes. I love meeting friendly non-local travelers. Still having some time to kill, I sat down inside the terminal at 3 Coracoes Cafe and got myself my first Brazilian beer, Therezopolis Gold. Although rather mediocre in terms of proper brew, I am enjoying it as I write this introduction to my upcoming report.
The Palms.
As the long flight had left me weary, I still wanted to at least get a clinic visit in. Most of my intelligence was based off the work of our very own Bobby Axel Heyst. As The Palms is his favorite premium clinic, it would be my first visit. I showered, got ready and called an Uber. Upon arriving at The Palms, it was all down to business; I was given a tablet and shown the girls that were available. I chose an Afro-Brazilian girl who looked amazing in the pictures. I was escorted to a room where I was told she'd be down in a few minutes. I must say the the decor at The Palms is very nice; it reminded me of an upscale spa with large, spacious and perfectly lit rooms. Once she arrived I was greeted with a very warm hug and kiss. To keep things short, the session was amazing. All services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK and she was also so very sweet. Her hygiene was also impeccable so I went DATY. I went back here a few days later to see if she was around for a session but she was not. The second time, I had a session with a beautiful blonde who although was a bit more mechanical performed amazingly. She was essentially a 9 and I was in heaven just staring in the mirror as we performed. It didn't get any better than this in terms of aesthetics. In terms of pricing, it is exactly as previously described, 400 to the house and 350 to the girl.
Sharon Premium.
I got to sleep early and woke up fully refreshed. Now, this trip was solely for mongering purposes so I did not do any tourist activities or visit any restaurants. Rather, I bought fresh pasta and tomato sauce, coconut water and protein shakes for my meals from the nearby supermarket. At around two I made my way over to Sharon Premium. The decor here is great and they have a fully stocked bar. I relaxed a bit while I enjoyed some whiskey. I was shown a tablet with all the available girls. They also have a TV screen that displays all the girls and their pictures. After selection, I was discreetly taken to a room. The room itself was very nice; spacious, clean with a hot tub for those who would want to partake in that. I felt the session itself was not as good as my visit to The Palms but we are comparing high-end apples to high-end apples here. The services rendered included light kissing and CBJ. After the session, I hung out at the upstairs bar for a while. I should have gone back to my place but I was just having a great time talking to the staff that was working there. At this point it was too late to go back to my place so I chose to go straight to Scandallo as it was very near and I wanted to avoid the 200 surcharge. In terms of pricing, it is 450 to the house.
Baronesas.
Although known for being a premium clinic, the decor and ambiance here is not on par with The Palms or Sharon Premium. With that said, the service rendered here was by far the best. I was given a tablet and made my selection. They are also stocked with drinks so I ordered a beer while I waited. The rooms themselves, while nice, are not up to par with the previous two clinics mentioned. When the girl arrived, I could tell she was young and she was of native decent. She reminded me of an ancient Amazonian princess and the session was outside this world. The services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK as well as other world sex. I was left completely drained and fully satisfied. I wanted to return here for another session but time did not allow. In terms of pricing, it is 425 to the house and 400 to the girl. I ordered two beers to the room so the cost to the house reflects that.
Scandallo.
Ah, Scandallo and the infamous Scandallo nights. I left this section for last as I truly have mixed feelings about this place. First and foremost, it is everything everyone says it is; a truly high-end, luxury hotel like situation with fully dressed valets and staff ready to serve your needs. I quickly sobered up and fine-tuned my senses to ensure I was getting the full experience. I tapped into the knowledge of all the past avatars that had come before me and I began to recognize it all. At the reception, I showed my laminated passport for entry and was given a card and the introductory instructions on costs. As previous stated, it is 300 before 7 PM, all consumable and the rest is up to you. Once this was taken care of, I was pointed in the direction of the elevator; the infamous elevator. There was no one else with me so it felt very private like I was a celebrity.
Boom, the elevator opens and the infamous red couch appeared. Here is where things got murky. Now, the place itself is amazing but if one is not careful you can lose all your senses and make some of the biggest blunders of your trip. Everything costs money! Prior to my first visit here I was enjoying a very low cost, high satisfaction trip visiting clinics and just enjoying the simpler side of SP. As I entered there were girls sitting to my left on the couch. One thing to keep in mind for rookies, everyone, whether it's the staff or the girls can smell a foreigner from a mile away and as such you as essentially fresh meat in a pool full of sharks. I don't speak a lick of Porto so I couldn't make heads or tails of what people were saying to me. It is up to you to keep your senses; there is no Marine unit coming, you're on your own. I was escorted to the bar in the restaurant and ordered a beer. Scandallo is not a place where you are going to be able to relax and enjoy a drink; you will have girls coming up to you the minute you walk in. I am in complete utter disarray as beautiful women after beautiful women came up to me to try and persuade me to choose them. I got up from where I was sitting and began to briskly walk around the place as it was my only reprieve from the onslaught of solicitation. I eventually got tired and sat down and within 5 minutes another solicitor sits down next to me. I whipped out my translator and told her that I was waiting for someone but not before buying her a drink. Eventually, she left and within a few seconds another one is sitting right next to me. She was not the exact type I was looking for but was nice enough so I just gave in. She eventually called her blonde friend over who was gorgeous so I just went with the flow. In my rookie state, I began swiping. I mean I really began swiping completely unaware of the damage that would be had later in the evening. To cut a long story short, I took both of the girls upstairs for an absolute mediocre session. I never do more than one girl at a time simply because it's not my thing. I feel that it is both a distraction for me and for the girls as they end up talking to each other instead of focusing on the task at hand. I then go to pay all dues and realize I don't have enough cash so I have to use the CC. It is getting declined left and right and I end up having to call the service center to clear things up. I was so fed up that I went back downstairs for a revenge beer. This is when a sweet blonde came up to me and began conversation. I was just trying to hang out but the other brain began to kick in. I told her about my frustrations and we agreed on the terms of service beforehand as well as the 800 cost. We went upstairs and the session was amazing. The services rendered were GFE, BBBJ and DFK. I am exhausted at this point and head for the exit.
I got home at 4 AM and prior to hitting the pillow checked my CC charges. My mind was blown at how irresponsible I was and how long the trail of rookie mistakes I made that night was. I couldn't even tell you the cost breakdown of everything as it was all merged. I say this now as a lesson for rookies and for accountability.
I went there on a second night as well. This time armed with previous experience and I didn't make the same mistakes twice. However, once again the onslaught of solicitors eventually became too much that I settled on someone who was not exactly the type I was looking for. The session itself was mediocre and the services rendered included light kissing and CBJ. We also showered together and enjoyed some moderate conversation as she was fully fluent in English.
I did also dine here with all the ladies as well as partake in buying a bottle and sitting in the club section. Again, might have been a mistake but I had my internal settings set to 'When in Rome' mode.
In all honestly, I don't know about this place. On one hand, it is a sight to see; on the other hand I'm not sure it's worth the money. I was completely satisfied with the controlled, relaxing environments of the clinics prior to my visit here. YMMV but this is my opinion.
Final Thoughts.
This was my first time in SP and regardless of all the preparation, I made a ton of rookie mistakes. With that said I had an incredible time. I don't know if I'll ever be able to go again but if I do I know what I'll be doing. I enjoy the clinics scene and will most likely spend most of my time there with Scandallo mixed in for a night. Again, I want to emphasize that everyone there can smell a foreigner from a mile away so have your wits about you. That said, I never felt in any kind of danger at any point during the day or night. It is a beautiful city with terrible traffic and a week is simply not enough time to enjoy all the beautiful women there. Thank you to all for all the invaluable information as I could not have done this trip without it.
If anyone would like any more details on anything, please ask.
J.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2878189]I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas. [/QUOTE]Good, detailed report. I especially liked the reviews on the High-End Clinicas. Looks like you had a good time. We all make Rookie mistakes sometime, learning from those mistakes makes a better Monger.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2878159]Thank you all for the good vibes, glad you guys enjoyed my report. I hope I was able to convey with my report the the emotion an excitement I myself felt reading past reports of Scandallo and SP in
For that in my experience in my next trip I will be sticking to Scandallo and other similar boates like bomboa. I know is not everyones cup of tea, others may prefer the expeditness of a meet and start fucking situation like clinicas and web escorts and sometimes that is what you need specially when you are a local or on a business trip and don't have much time to be spending 4-6 hours for a fuck. But as a foreigner on vacations with total free time there is nothing better to enjoy your evening drinking, dancing, flirting and fucking sorrounded by a group of the most beatilful women in Brasil.
There is still pending my report on the threesome I had before I left SP. Stay tuned I will be posting it later.[/QUOTE]My sentiments exactly. I much prefer the boates over the "pump and dump" places. I enjoy the interaction and need the chemistry to have a good time plus I need to be physically attracted to the girl before doing anything. I think the girls in Brazil just know how to creat the IOP that makes it so much fun.
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2878219]Good, detailed report. I especially liked the reviews on the High-End Clinicas. Looks like you had a good time. We all make Rookie mistakes sometime, learning from those mistakes makes a better Monger.[/QUOTE]I indeed had a great time. As you say, you live and you learn. I hope to make the second trip even better if I am able to go!
J.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2878283]My sentiments exactly. I much prefer the boates over the "pump and dump" places. I enjoy the interaction and need the chemistry to have a good time plus I need to be physically attracted to the girl before doing anything. I think the girls in Brazil just know how to creat the IOP that makes it so much fun.[/QUOTE]In my personal opinion, I found the women at the clinics I visited to be on par with the women I saw at Scandallo. Keep in mind, I went on Wednesday and Thursday nights where there were 100-150 women at any given time.
Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.
Brazilian IoP (Illusion of Passion) is absolutely real and I am glad to have experienced it. The flight back home was very depressing.
J.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2878296]Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.[/QUOTE]I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head. In fact, I was very surprised by your description of the constant approaches and pressure to go to the room. I have never experienced any such "sharkiness" at Scandallo whatsoever. Either the girls have gotten desperate, or as you say, there was something about you that was flashing "prey" above your head. One thing that helps me is that I can easily pass for Brazilian, so no girl in there is going to see me and quickly assume they can try to play / pressure me. I'll give you that the clinicas are less expensive. No question about it. But other than that fact, if I had to choose, I'm taking the nightclubs over the clinicas. Fortunately, there is no need to choose. One can work the clinicas in the day league and hit the boates in the night league. As much as your time, energy, and budget will allow for. Play ball!
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2878189]Arrival.
I arrived at GRU mid-morning after a ten hour flight. Though I'm tired, the excitement you get when you step foot in a new land for the first time kicked in. I surmise the conquerors felt the same upon discovering the Americas.
Final Thoughts.
This was my first time in SP and regardless of all the preparation, I made a ton of rookie mistakes. With that said I had an incredible time. I don't know if I'll ever be able to go again but if I do I know what I'll be doing. I enjoy the clinics scene and will most likely spend most of my time there with Scandallo mixed in for a night. Again, I want to emphasize that everyone there can smell a foreigner from a mile away so have your wits about you. That said, I never felt in any kind of danger at any point during the day or night. It is a beautiful city with terrible traffic and a week is simply not enough time to enjoy all the beautiful women there. Thank you to all for all the invaluable information as I could not have done this trip without it..[/QUOTE]Great report, I agree with you with some things regarding scandallo first of all it is in fact a money pit if you do not control yourself and start swiping left and right, it is easy to loose control and start swiping once you get excited and because of the card system you do not feel and realize how much you are spending until it is time to go and is too late. In my experience although I was determined not to spend more of the 300 R in consumable in the end I end up spending 100 R more, mainly on drinks for me and a couple for the girls as I spend there several hours, but I always had an idea of how much I was spending I went there with just the right amount of money I could not afford to loose control. I can only imagine how much you spend ordering bottles and having dinner with the girls, and as you mentioned that is a rookie mistake if your pockets are not deep. Not because is not worth it if I had deep pockets I would be definitely be ordering bottles and inviting dinner to the girls, surely I would have a great time but you can have equally great time just inviting a drink or 2 to a girl you fancy and not spending that much.
The other thing I agree is that the girls Coming on to you one after the other can be sometimes a little anoying because same as you, once you start talking they can be extremely charming and before you know it, if you are not experienced enough, you are going for the rooms even if the girl is not exactly the type you would like.
Fortunately in my case Both sessions I had they were great, I enjoyed more the session with the girl more of my type but I guess that was because I was more into her due to my tastes, but apart from that both were great performers each in their own way. I would guess that was because we had great chemistry during the interview process before we Went to the rooms, it helped me a lot that both girls spoke some Spanish and that I knew basic Portuguese we had no problem communicating, I would imagine communicating only through the translating App on your phone would limit greatly the experience of the interview process and that could lead to some unfortunate mediocre sessions.
In my case I did not feel that they could smell foreigners from miles away and be treated differently, but maybe that was just my case due to my nature of being a fellow south American maybe I could blend in with the crow and pass as a local, they would realize I was not a local just as I talk with my "Portuñol". But in other cases when you are from a country with a more different ethnicity say gringo type or Asian they could spot you more easily and worst if you don't speak a lick of the local language you may be more exposed to girls trying to charge you more or getting you to invite dinner.
But will all the considerations and with more experience I am sure your next visits will be more enjoyable, as the experience in general is quiet amazing.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2878306]I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head. In fact, I was very surprised by your description of the constant approaches and pressure to go to the room. I have never experienced any such "sharkiness" at Scandallo whatsoever.[/QUOTE]Me too. Of course, a few Scandallo and bomboa girls will always make the first move and directly approach a man, but most girls will just give you a smile and try to make eye contact, preferring to wait for the gent to make the first move and break the ice with an "oi". I prefer this looser approach over Cafe Photo's where girls are not allowed to make the first move because I have never felt really bothered by a first move. It is easy to say no thanks, I am waiting for someone else. I just make sure to do it with a smile.
One time, however, this super-hot Italian looking Scandallo girl came up to me in the entertainment bar and made the 1st and 2nd move. I liked her from the first minute I saw her so, yada yada yada, a drink and an audition later, I asked her upstairs and the session was remarkable. Sadly, I never saw her in Scandallo again. Too bad.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2878189]The Palms.
As the long flight had left me weary, I still wanted to at least get a clinic visit in. Most of my intelligence was based off the work of our very own Bobby Axel Heyst. As The Palms is his favorite premium clinic, it would be my first visit. I showered, got ready and called an Uber. Upon arriving at The Palms, it was all down to business; I was given a tablet and shown the girls that were available. I chose an Afro-Brazilian girl who looked amazing in the pictures. I was escorted to a room where I was told she'd be down in a few minutes. I must say the decor at The Palms is very nice; it reminded me of an upscale spa with large, spacious and perfectly lit rooms. Once she arrived, I was greeted with a very warm hug and kiss. To keep things short, the session was amazing. All services rendered included GFE, BBBJ, DFK and she was also so very sweet. Her hygiene was also impeccable, so I went DATY. I went back here a few days later to see if she was around for a session but she was not. The second time, I had a session with a beautiful blonde who although was a bit more mechanical performed amazingly. She was essentially a 9 and I was in heaven just staring in the mirror as we performed. It didn't get any better than this in terms of aesthetics. In terms of pricing, it is exactly as previously described, 400 to the house and 350 to the girl...[/QUOTE]J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo in one night. That is how crazy I am sometimes, but I never did 3 girls in one night. So, way to go! And not to minimize the huge amount of money you dropped that night, it's only money. Ha Ha Ha. I have thrown away a ton more $$$ on really stupid shit like installing an AMP & speakers in my new SUV. It still pisses me off how much those installers / grifters charged me. KKK.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2878296]In my personal opinion, I found the women at the clinics I visited to be on par with the women I saw at Scandallo. Keep in mind, I went on Wednesday and Thursday nights where there were 100-150 women at any given time.
Scandallo is truly a sight to behold and definitely should be on the list of destinations for anyone visiting SP for the first time. However, I simply found the clinic scene to be more controlled and relaxing; a low-cost, high-satisfaction scenario. I admit, someone more seasoned would not have made the same mistakes I did as I had complete sensory overload when I arrived at Scandallo. It is a fast paced, shark tank type of environment where anything can happen.
Brazilian IOP (Illusion of Passion) is absolutely real and I am glad to have experienced it. The flight back home was very depressing. J.[/QUOTE]SP clinicas are very good. I am in SP as I write this and so far, this visit, a clinica girl is in the lead for the best new girl of the trip. Boy was she something in bed including a 69 CIM finish. But, I have to add that I think boate girls have more potential over the long run if you are into that sort of thing I. E. LT, modified ST's lasting 3 to 7 hours without a sleep over, and repeats.
BTW, repeats are how I was introduced by my favorite Scandallo girl to her GFs and one night the girls and I were drinking a bottle of malbec when both girls suggested we go upstairs together for a true menage a trois, one where everybody is doing everybody with a lot of IOP as you coined the phrase in the preceding paragraph. And that was a truly memorable night!
So rock on and follow your bliss wherever it leads you to like SP Clinicas, Boates or some other destination.
A. H.
J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo.
A. H. [ / QUOTE.
Solid Advice A. H.
JS, You can ask the roving waiters working the tables to show you the total tab amount so far. They carry the swipe machine with them. Even in a drunken state, I want a sneak peek at the damage from buying myself 20-year chivas regal, buckets of ice and ordering gin tropicals or gin tonics for the duplos garotas doing threesomes.
I always get a bucket of ice cause the two Scandallo chicas with me for the duplo session, make a big deal to personally serve my drinks. Also I control the chica's drink order, it's gin tropical or related to gin cause I know the prices from seeing the waiters swipe the tablet. Nothing else can be ordered on my dime. Some Chicas buy their own fancy wine.
As part of the (IoP) illusion of passion, the garotas doing the threesome compete to refill my drinks. They sloppy suck on the ice cubes, while tongue-swapping with each other in a deep French lesbo kiss. It's a porno-style 4-play of their cum-swapping talent in the room. And we ain't going to the room until they do a public Lesbo deep kissing going first. I join in the three-way kissing after they wipe off that crazy-ass red lipstick.
Usually, I grab a table in the last row at the back bar across the bathrooms. Sometimes we will jump up from the tables to do a sexy three-way dance. My drunk clumsy ass will bang the table knocking over the glass drinks. It feels a hell of a lot better knowing they did not have any expensive drinks on my dime.
I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.
Tochka's advice to have the girls do a public DFK and ice cube demo for snowballing before the room is an excellent audit / qualifying tip in the management of working girls.
It's a great idea to be totally explicit about what you want. Get good human made translations done and drawings. The girls have heard it all before and are rarely shocked unless you are really weird involving pain, violence, shit and piss. But telling them you want all of their three holes, blowing a load on their face or in their holes, having them suck your balls, rimming, blindfolds and toy handcuffs etc are totally expected and normal. Just be a civilized human, be personally hygienic, smile, playful and be nice to women and make sure you have their consent BEFORE doing anything. It will pay you back in triple in service quality that you play a part in.
You would be amazed how sexually explicit and graphic many women are talking to each other about how to get a man off. Working girls in plying their trade need to know how to arouse and how to get men off quickly. In Thailand many of the girls are very Houdini like flexible and reach for your balls while you fuck and kiss them. They learn these skills from the other working girls. BBBJCIM is basic for a real working girl.
I expect my duplas to lick each other out while I fuck them and alternate with one of them gently fondling my balls / butt or rimming me while impaling her friend or being sucked and various other combinations that is the ideal way in which men should be treated, and certainly what Turkish Sultans and elite men had in their harems. GFE, BBBJCIM and anal, a nice smile and being jolly are basic skills all women should possess if they are going to keep a man happy whether in the brothel or in civilian life.
Merry Christmas boys, have fun and live your best self.
I just visited the Palms today and I enjoyed reunion sex with one of their gals that I met during my last trip in June. I can't figure it out exactly. The Palms girl I had last week gave better all-around service including a 69 CIM finish, but this little repeat girl really knows how to turn me on. Oh yeah, I know. 1st thing is I dig her tight little body. But the big turn on is she knows how to use her pussy muscle to hold my dick and then squeeze, release, and squeeze which is a very, very, pleasurable move. KKK. Damn, the little girl brought me to climax in 20 minutes!
Afterwards, I was chatting with Gabo, the manager, and he told me that the Palms was going to be closed for the holidays from Dec 23 until Jan 8. Not a big shocker. The girl I was just with had already told me she was going home to visit her parents over Christmas. So, I guess this is the last week things are going to be normal in SP until after the 1st week in 2024. No problem. I have Christmas and New Years already slated with my favorite SP gal. My only question is what is Bing Crosby going to do for Christmas?
Have a merry one.
A. H.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2878678]I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.[/QUOTE]The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like. They charge a fee, I don't know how much it is now. I think I remember paying 600 reais back in 2018. They wanted her to finish her shift though.
If you get to know her well you might be able to exchange numbers and it is then up to her to do what she wants when she is not at the clinic.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2879007]The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like. They charge a fee, I don't know how much it is now. I think I remember paying 600 reais back in 2018. They wanted her to finish her shift though.
If you get to know her well you might be able to exchange numbers and it is then up to her to do what she wants when she is not at the clinic.[/QUOTE]Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.
I arrived bright and early, buzzed the door open, walked into the courtyard, and discover what seemed to be FIDY 50 swinging dicks taking sitting on benches, standing on the rails, on the steps. Crap what's up with all these other mofo getting here early too! Must of been a holiday in SP. Dudes were grabbing all my favorites from the lineup.
Whoever I like the other dude is eyeing the same one. So had to move Fast!
Now I only go after scheduling two or three sessions in advance plus booking my favorite room in advance. Some of those rooms on the upper floor or basement don't get cleaned well.
Yup, In my experience found the garotas with me willing to share their wasaap numbers to hook up later or the next day on their own time. Or the garotas hanging in the bar are up to chat and share wassap while waiting for the good rooms.
Some garotas after warming up to me, and a few drinks at the bar will share their own private pornos videos on their phones. Dayum freaky! To see a hot sexy looking cutie doing a three and four-way gangbang.
One Tangara chica has an apartment in Moema near Bourbon Ibirapuera hotel That was a blast, a convenient to hook up in her place.
I did do a double take when my super fine, goddamn sexy, hot in the bed porno garota changed into her street clothes without much makeup. The illusion of passion was nearly gone seeing her normal Street clothes at the end of her shift.
Your Mileage May Vary YMMV.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2878678]I am planning to visit Yankin or Tangara during the day or early evening.
If a session is good, I want to bring her to my hotel to stay overnight on that night or after a few days.
I think I read many posts on clinicas but could not see / remember if anyone did take a girl outside.[/QUOTE]If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.
You described my nightmare scenario. I hate it with a passion when I walk into a venue and find it packed with a bunch of dudes. It's that awful New Life Medellin vibe. Brazilians love to hang around and schmooze with the employees, reception desk and managers included. A saving grace of Sao Paulo is there are always many other places to visit.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2879052]Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.
I arrived bright and early, buzzed the door open, walked into the courtyard, and discover what seemed to be FIDY 50 swinging dicks taking sitting on benches, standing on the rails, on the steps. Crap what's up with all these other mofo getting here early too! Must of been a holiday in SP. Dudes were grabbing all my favorites from the lineup.
Whoever I like the other dude is eyeing the same one. So had to move Fast!
Now I only go after scheduling two or three sessions in advance plus booking my favorite room in advance. Some of those rooms on the upper floor or basement don't get cleaned well..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2879144]If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.[/QUOTE]This suggestion makes sense to me. I have not employed this strategy in SP yet, but it used to work all the time with a certain favorite BKK oily massage girl I was on good terms with back pre-Covid.
I do not like the idea of inviting a clinica girl over to my place after her shift however. The girl has to be tired out after a day at the clinica and I prefer my girls fresh and full of energy.
And the 3rd possibility; asking a clinica girl over on her day off is a 50/50 proposition IMHO. Some girls are up for it and others are not. If she asks for a large cash contribution, way above what she gets for a session in the clinica, she is obviously not that into it and I would drop the invitation.
Merry White Christmas from the Southern Hemisphere.
Yeah. If you think about it it's like a gang bang.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2879188]You described my nightmare scenario. I hate it with a passion when I walk into a venue and find it packed with a bunch of dudes. It's that awful New Life Medellin vibe. Brazilians love to hang around and schmooze with the employees, reception desk and managers included. A saving grace of Sao Paulo is there are always many other places to visit.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2879007]The clinica can arrange the outcall if you would like.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2879052]Tangara. I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=XXL;2879144]If your hotel is on the right side of town, a garota will be especially delighted in paying you a visit on her way to the clinica just before her shift begins.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2879194]This suggestion makes sense to me.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your thoughts.
Does anyone know how it is like in KILT?
According to a guy who has described his positive experience in this club years ago in his blog, it was as nice as other termas*in terms of the quality of girls or vibes, and he liked sex shows played there.
I wonder how it is now.
OMG, I never thought of it that way. I think you are right.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2879257]Yeah. If you think about it it's like a gang bang..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2879052]Tangara.
I learned my lesson to schedule an appointment in advance for my favorite two or three garotas in Tangara. I went very early when the wassap listed 25+ to 38+ garotas in the house. Damn I was excited with anticipation.[/QUOTE]Is it possible to check the list of girls and their photos?
If asking by whatsapp, I guess they will only let me know the names of available girls that day.
But even for "chat via whatsapp", I cannot connect. Whatsapp says "the phone number isn't on whatsapp".
How can I do? Connecting to Yankin's whatsapp worked at least.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2878306]I have never, ever experienced the kind of high-pressure environment that you described at Scandallo, and so few here have written of experiencing the same thing that I can't recall another similar report off the top of my head.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TheCane;2878306]Play ball![/QUOTE]Perhaps you are right, TC. It might have just been a combination of it being my first time there and paranoia. I don't know if I could pass as Brazilian but it might have been I could not blend in due to my not knowing the local language.
Either way, as you said, play ball!
J.
[QUOTE=RickyRick95;2878314]Great report, I agree with you with some things regarding scandallo first of all it is in fact a money pit if you do not control yourself and start swiping left and right, it is easy to loose control and start swiping once you get excited and because of the card system you do not feel and realize how much you are spending until it is time to go and is too late. In my experience although I was determined not to spend more of the 300 R in consumable in the end I end up spending 100 R more, mainly on drinks for me and a couple for the girls as I spend there several hours, but I always had an idea of how much I was spending I went there with just the right amount of money I could not afford to loose control. I can only imagine how much you spend ordering bottles and having dinner with the girls, and as you mentioned that is a rookie mistake if your pockets are not deep. Not because is not worth it if I had deep pockets I would be definitely be ordering bottles and inviting dinner to the girls, surely I would have a great time but you can have equally great time just inviting a drink or 2 to a girl you fancy and not spending that much.
The other thing I agree is that the girls Coming on to you one after the other can be sometimes a little anoying because same as you, once you start talking they can be extremely charming and before you know it, if you are not experienced enough, you are going for the rooms even if the girl is not exactly the type you would like.
Fortunately in my case Both sessions I had they were great, I enjoyed more the session with the girl more of my type but I guess that was because I was more into her due to my tastes, but apart from that both were great performers each in their own way. I would guess that was because we had great chemistry during the interview process before we Went to the rooms, it helped me a lot that both girls spoke some Spanish and that I knew basic Portuguese we had no problem communicating, I would imagine communicating only through the translating App on your phone would limit greatly the experience of the interview process and that could lead to some unfortunate mediocre sessions.
In my case I did not feel that they could smell foreigners from miles away and be treated differently, but maybe that was just my case due to my nature of being a fellow south American maybe I could blend in with the crow and pass as a local, they would realize I was not a local just as I talk with my "Portuol". But in other cases when you are from a country with a more different ethnicity say gringo type or Asian they could spot you more easily and worst if you don't speak a lick of the local language you may be more exposed to girls trying to charge you more or getting you to invite dinner.
But will all the considerations and with more experience I am sure your next visits will be more enjoyable, as the experience in general is quiet amazing.[/QUOTE]Indeed RR95. Thanks for your feedback and contribution to the forum with your report as well. I continue to take notes and as you said, I am determined to make the next visit even better!
J.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2878636]J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo in one night. That is how crazy I am sometimes, but I never did 3 girls in one night. So, way to go! And not to minimize the huge amount of money you dropped that night, it's only money. Ha Ha Ha. I have thrown away a ton more $$$ on really stupid shit like installing an AMP & speakers in my new SUV. It still pisses me off how much those installers / grifters charged me. KKK.
SP clinicas are very good. I am in SP as I write this and so far, this visit, a clinica girl is in the lead for the best new girl of the trip. Boy was she something in bed including a 69 CIM finish. But, I have to add that I think boate girls have more potential over the long run if you are into that sort of thing I. E. LT, modified ST's lasting 3 to 7 hours without a sleep over, and repeats.
BTW, repeats are how I was introduced by my favorite Scandallo girl to her GFs and one night the girls and I were drinking a bottle of malbec when both girls suggested we go upstairs together for a true menage a trois, one where everybody is doing everybody with a lot of IOP as you coined the phrase in the preceding paragraph. And that was a truly memorable night!
So rock on and follow your bliss wherever it leads you to like SP Clinicas, Boates or some other destination.
A. H.[/QUOTE]AH,
Firstly, thank you for your kind words of encouragement. It is indeed true that after a couple of weeks now, the bad memories are beginning to fade while I continue to day-dream and night-dream about the good ones. I find myself wanting to return sooner rather than later but luckily the larger brain deters me from making any rash decisions.
Secondly, that threesome you describe with full IoP is the stuff of dreams. I hope to experience this type of bliss one day and will be searching for it on my next visit.
Lastly, thank you for all the knowledge you have bestowed upon this thread as my itinerary was loosely based on all the feedback. Your past reports were spot on and they saved me much time and energy. I definitely owe you a few of those expensive drinks if our paths ever cross in SP.
J.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2878668]J, I think you are being too hard on yourself concerning your 1st night at Scandallo and the money you dropped. In a very short time, I think, the money spent that 1st night which included a mediocre 3 way will recede in importance in your mind, as your positive memory of that third girl and how you found her will grow. Hey, I have done 3 ways and 2-fers in Scandallo. I even did one girl 2 x in Scandallo.
A. H. [ / QUOTE.
Solid Advice A. H.
JS, You can ask the roving waiters working the tables to show you the total tab amount so far. They carry the swipe machine with them. Even in a drunken state, I want a sneak peek at the damage from buying myself 20-year chivas regal, buckets of ice and ordering gin tropicals or gin tonics for the duplos garotas doing threesomes.
I always get a bucket of ice cause the two Scandallo chicas with me for the duplo session, make a big deal to personally serve my drinks. Also I control the chica's drink order, it's gin tropical or related to gin cause I know the prices from seeing the waiters swipe the tablet. Nothing else can be ordered on my dime. Some Chicas buy their own fancy wine.
As part of the (IoP) illusion of passion, the garotas doing the threesome compete to refill my drinks. They sloppy suck on the ice cubes, while tongue-swapping with each other in a deep French lesbo kiss. It's a porno-style 4-play of their cum-swapping talent in the room. And we ain't going to the room until they do a public Lesbo deep kissing going first. I join in the three-way kissing after they wipe off that crazy-ass red lipstick.
Usually, I grab a table in the last row at the back bar across the bathrooms. Sometimes we will jump up from the tables to do a sexy three-way dance. My drunk clumsy ass will bang the table knocking over the glass drinks. It feels a hell of a lot better knowing they did not have any expensive drinks on my dime.[/QUOTE]T,
I will definitely be cognizant of the tab the way in which you describe the next time around. I as unpack my experience, I realize I was not patient and simply didn't stand my ground and dictate the terms I wanted before hand. Haha, I'm laughing as I picture what you describe unfolding on one of the back tables near the bathrooms; the stuff of dreams. I look forward to returning.
J.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2879841]Is it possible to check the list of girls and their photos?
If asking by whatsapp, I guess they will only let me know the names of available girls that day.
But even for "chat via whatsapp", I cannot connect. Whatsapp says "the phone number isn't on whatsapp".
How can I do? Connecting to Yankin's whatsapp worked at least.[/QUOTE]The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
Under.
Acomphantes Sao Paulo.
CLnicas de Massagens SP.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.
I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.
Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).
Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.
YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2880011]The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
Under.
Acomphantes Sao Paulo.
CLnicas de Massagens SP.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.
I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.
Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).
Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.
YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.[/QUOTE]That's a hell of a demanding schedule. How do you keep your stamina up? I also had planned to do two clinics prior to Scandallo in the evening but never made it past one. I also opted to consume only coconut water, protein shakes and some pasta over other types of dishes to avoid lethargy during the day.
J.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2880011]The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
.[/QUOTE]57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.
After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give [URL]seekingarragements.com[/URL] (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2880064]57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tochka;2880011]The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for letting me know. For Tangara, their second number in gp guia worked with Whatsapp.
I do not know how things work in clinicas. Clinica receptions can explain in English or I need to use google translator?
My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.
A few posts that I remember here reported 190 including BBBJ or CIM in Tangara or Yankin and 330 including CBJ in Abbobora.
Let's say I want to include BBBJ and CIM. Prices can be way above the range of 200-300 depending on girls, which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?
Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?
I feel like seeing in person instead of making an appoinment since I do not have good experiences in booking girls based on photos.
Hey all,
I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2880255]After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give [URL]seekingarragements.com[/URL] (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?[/QUOTE]It's not surprising your disappointed in Seeking if you haven't landed a date yet. What you are finding is that it's a shit ton of work. And what you hve not had yet is the benefit of that shit ton of work. I describe it as a massive pile of bullshit. And somewhere in that pile is a diamond. But you have to slog thru all of the shit ti find it. As you hve not found it yet, all you see is the shit. 😋.
I wrote s short guide on Seeking I'the be happy to send (I've dated over 50 girls on Seeking). Just hmu. But let me try to summarize a few key thoughts.
It's a numbers game. From a percentages POV prob less than 30% of girls will even respond to your message. And maybe 10% will be worth chatting further with. And then you get down to 1-3 who are worth taking on a date (bedding) and you get down to specifics and go consumate the deal. So your experience is not surprising. A few tips:
Try to mention something specific from their profile in your opener. Stay away from generic openers they've seen a zillion times.
Drive the conversation with questions. Never ever end an exchange without another question or she will just fade out.
Take things over to WhatsApp within a couple days of contact. Once you are on what's things stay more connected because the girls are not on SA 247.
It sounds like you already know not to treat them like full on pros. I like it to an online bar. Like you are picking up girls with your charm and charisma. But via text.
Never ever do the "coffee meetup". Always go for dinner and or drinks and take it to the room first night. That is when the momentum exists.
So why even bother, when you have Boates etc in So Paulo. And I generally agree with that. Seeking is best where pussy is hard to find. Like USA. That said Seekingbis just a completely different experience. It's like a real date and real feelings can get involved if you let them. Plus Sundays generally suck in South America so that's a great Seeking day. And finally you can develop really quality repeat relationships. I can fly to any of 5 or so cities and be guaranteed a quality date with a girl I adore and quality sex at the end. I have girls I've been seeing since I started Seeking in 2019.
Two final thoughts.
One. The diamonds do exist. Even in Brazil. I had a legit 9. 5 Seeking girl in Rio. She was either 400 or 500 R and we had a full 3-4 hour date. 9. 5 looks. 9. 5 personality. 9. 5 in bed. A true diamond. Right there in Rio. I had been browsing and chatting for a couple weeks and snagged her at 10 PM Sat night for a Sunday date. See point 2.
Sometimes going last minute totally works. My OPENER is "Going out for a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" This sounds so aggressive. Fuck we haven't even said Hello, yet. But this has worked for me at least five times sometimes with spectacular results.
So it's a ton of work but worth it IMO. HMU if you need any further help Or join in the chat w the rest of the Seeking enthusiasts here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements
[QUOTE=AboveAverage;2880255]After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give [URL]seekingarragements.com[/URL] (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.
Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.
I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.
I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?
What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?[/QUOTE]I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.
Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2880269]
My further concern is being ripped off, .... which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?
Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?[/QUOTE]IMO, I would think about these things differently. This is Brazil, don't think of upselling for what you want. This isn't a FKK where some girls will want to upcharge you for touching them or Colombia where they want you to drop USD on them. At clinicas, the price is the price for the session (and you pay the desk for the most part). Expect to use translation, only a few staff here and there speak English. The common saying is that in Brazil, your chances of GFE are more likely. CBJ is a new plague it seems (IE Casarao).
To spell it out, IE Prime:
Go to the desk, say Hello, and ask for a presentation. Girls will come out and introduce themselves, try to just remember the one you want (you generally don't have the opportunity to check your list of things you want). Choose, get sent to your room and wash up / wait. If you don't like any one, you can wait around, but different places will have different levels of patience for this. Have a good time, get dressed and pay and leave (or wait for round 2). It's not that complicated.
Define what's a dealbreaker (to yourself) and just say that it won't work for you (unless the girl somehow exceeds your threshold for throwing $ at them). If you need to see people and have a conversation of what you like and what they are willing to do, clinicas don't always offer the best environment for this, other than places like Yankin (in the bar area) or Boates, etc. At boates / clubs, you can definitely get your tabbed escalated if you don't control the situation as everyone is a freelancer.
I felt safe in Sao Paulo (this is always relative), but you have to watch out for people taking advantage of you being glued to your phone on the street.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2880269]
My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.
Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?
.[/QUOTE]The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.
In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.
Everything (at least most clinicas and boates) is open as usual on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=Murtyle;2880275]Hey all,
I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Yeah I noticed that the ones who are in their mid-20's and older are not very friendly. Pretty hard-headed and tough. I think this is universal and not just brazilians.
[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2880296]I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.
Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.[/QUOTE]
Gp-guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2880508]The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.
In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2880689]Gp-Guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.[/QUOTE]As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.
Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV.
Same thing with BBBJ or covered, it all depends on if people are clean or not. Anal or not, depends on the size. Gpuia is accurate up to an extent. Need lots of reviews and sample size to be more accurate. It is useful in that if 9 out of 10 reviews are saying that this person is a fraud then most likely they're a fraud.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2881506]As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.
Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV.[/QUOTE].
Hello Gentlemen, we have liberated one more walking tour from Sao Paulo. This time the short trip from Dorado Shopping area to Vila Conceiao where the new Bomboa club is located since the pandemics. The previous location of the club was on the Capote Valente Street.
Enjoy!
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Anyone knows what Scandallo might look like tomorrow Saturday night given end of year and all? I'd like go wash off the 2023 stress over there.
By the way, been here a couple of days and have sampled quite a few talent. The standout so far is a big booty young lady going by Indyara at Lux Spa on Loefgren. Perfect mix of skill and GFE sensuality.
By the way II, Have you had pussy so good you feel like you can fially solve world peace?
Happy mongering my friends!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2880689]Gp-guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.[/QUOTE]In gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] reviews, at the top it shows what the girl did in that particular session, not what she will or won't do. So if the top says no BBBJ, DFK, or anal, it could mean that the client did not ask for it, or she refused that specific customer that service, not that she doesn't do it or would not do it with another customer. Also, there is no section at the top where it says what the anal surcharge was (that is in [URL]gparena.net[/URL]).
If you want specific things during a session, it is always better to ask to talk to the girl to see if she does it rather than hope she does. In clinicas it is perfectly fine to ask to speak to a girl you like to ask her if she does what you want to avoid disappointment in the room. I do this all the time and have never been refused the opportunity to talk to the girl (if they did, I would just walk out). I show her on my cell phone what I want in the session (in Portuguese) and she decides if she will do them. I have on occasion been told by the girl that she doesn't do something I want and I just thank her and choose another girl to speak to or leave for another clinica.
Yes, this is the way it works. It explains why you will see conflicting information about the same girl in separate reviews. When in doubt you can do as you stated or if you want to confirm before going to the venue you can call or whatsapp and ask the management.
[QUOTE=JimmyBoy99;2881890]In gp-[URL]guia.net[/URL] reviews, at the top it shows what the girl did in that particular session, not what she will or won't do. So if the top says no BBBJ, DFK, or anal, it could mean that the client did not ask for it, or she refused that specific customer that service, not that she doesn't do it or would not do it with another customer. Also, there is no section at the top where it says what the anal surcharge was (that is in [URL]gparena.net[/URL]).
If you want specific things during a session, it is always better to ask to talk to the girl to see if she does it rather than hope she does. In clinicas it is perfectly fine to ask to speak to a girl you like to ask her if she does what you want to avoid disappointment in the room. I do this all the time and have never been refused the opportunity to talk to the girl (if they did, I would just walk out). I show her on my cell phone what I want in the session (in Portuguese) and she decides if she will do them. I have on occasion been told by the girl that she doesn't do something I want and I just thank her and choose another girl to speak to or leave for another clinica.[/QUOTE]
For what it's worth, I was there in February 23, first time, and it was fairly easy to negotiate 600 for one of the better looking girls, easy an 8+. One girl asked 1500 and I laughed at her, and offered 600 and then she walked away. But I was there in a group of brazilenos, and later same girl who turned me down kept telling me that she regretted it and wanted me to take her number. So I swear the second those girls don't identify you as a US gringo everything changes. You simply have to take a seat and take your time, let the night move along and let them come and go. What makes them insist on 1000+ with us Americans is because it works. Until it doesn't ie hold the line putos. I am heading back to SP tonight and just saying, I'll never pay 1000 or more, have trouble even justifying 800. I've got the money, just can't bring myself to do it. Even if you pay 800 let's say when you add in the room and entrance, you are looking at spending about $280+ for the evening there.
[QUOTE=BangKoker;2873888]Wow, I've gone through some posts on the last few pages and I see the cost of having some fun in Scandallo is really getting out of line. R1000 for a CBJ? R300 for the room? So it went 230- 270- 300 merely in 7 months? Like come on, I suspect you can have a night in a 3-star hotel for that price. Luckily during my first and only visit in that boate I was able to score a good looking morena with great (not big) ass and even better fake tits for R500 (she easily accepted it after saying she usually asks R1000, I don't think that was because I'm in late twenties and tall, my guess is rather that she could either accept it or else she would have a small chance of getting another client within the next hour as IIRC there were not many men in there at that time). I got to tell you that the BBBJ performed by her wasn't too good but she rode it very well and that's a little bit more important for me I think. So the total damage for restaurant + girl + room was 1100 BRL that night and for me personally is somewhere on the edge of being acceptable to pay for one evening of fun. I guess unless prices somehow decrease it'll only make sense for me to return there when I'm a millionaire, at least denominated in BRL.
Also I wonder. In the northeast it's very doable to score a pro from a club or a bar without paying her if you two get along well. Didn't happen to me but a friend who's living there has done it many times. Has any of you ever managed. Or know somebody who has. To do the same in SP with a boate / clinica girl? I would guess that most of them are from other parts of the country and are 100% focused on the money while for example in Fortaleza they'd mix their professional life with private life and thus be more willing to have some pure fun without materialistic intentions.[/QUOTE]
My New Years Date came down with a stomach issue and could not come to me. So at 7:00 on New Years Eve I have my choice, go to Casarao or call someone to me. I looked through Photoaccompanhantes site and sent out 4 feelers. I received two replys. One for a Japanese lady and one for European looking one. Japanese wanted 800 for an hour and I would need to go to her. The other asked for $R350. I decided that was less of a risk. She came and we had an enjoyable visit with lots of kissing etc. This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night.
I love having choices!
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2882534].... This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night....[/QUOTE]That is one of the nice things about Brazilian women.
So where most of the Boates closed on New Years even then? I got in on the first and they were all closed Jan 1.
[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2882534]My New Years Date came down with a stomach issue and could not come to me. So at 7:00 on New Years Eve I have my choice, go to Casarao or call someone to me. I looked through Photoaccompanhantes site and sent out 4 feelers. I received two replys. One for a Japanese lady and one for European looking one. Japanese wanted 800 for an hour and I would need to go to her. The other asked for $R350. I decided that was less of a risk. She came and we had an enjoyable visit with lots of kissing etc. This morning she texted me that she really enjoyed meeting and being with me last night.
I love having choices![/QUOTE]
A couple of years ago was the last time I was in Sao Paulo for New Years. Basically the whole city was at Guaruja and other beaches. Places gradually reopened the weekend after New Year's Day. Maybe it's different now post pandemic.
[QUOTE=Putero1;2882754]So where most of the Boates closed on New Years even then? I got in on the first and they were all closed Jan 1.[/QUOTE]
Ah OK. I am here now, I arrived Jan 1st and everything opened either the 2nd or today the 3rd including all of the clinicas. Maybe half were open yesterday, Jan 2. It was amazing that none of these bars or businesses cared to tell anyone what there holiday hours would be either on their websites or whatsapp. I guess the locals just know the deal. Now we know, cheers.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2882883]A couple of years ago was the last time I was in Sao Paulo for New Years. Basically the whole city was at Guaruja and other beaches. Places gradually reopened the weekend after New Year's Day. Maybe it's different now post pandemic.[/QUOTE]
I'm going through the forum, lots of detail but I'm hoping to get some direction.
Background: Early 30's, brown gringo, have done west Eur, USA / Can, Mex / Col. Experienced in the hobby but I don't speak any Porto.
I'd like to keep it simple as possible. Maybe gringo friendly clubs at night & any convenient day spas / agencies. Looking for those top Instagram fit, pretty types. Tourist attractions not a priority.
1) SP over Rio? Scandallo alone sounds like it could be plenty. Easy to get Scandallo girls during the day? Other equivalent clubs?
2) Reqs where to stay that are girl friendly, safe, convenient to food? I'd rather stay somewhere nice for 3-4 days than a cheaper spot for 5-6.
SP is in my top 3 cities worldwide. I now spend a couple of months a year here. About half of the girls I meet are civilians (I'm probably a bit younger than most) and the other half aren't. SP really shines for regular civilians, I'm fluent in Portuguese which definitely helps.
For P4 P, I generally stick to Scandallo and have probably been there 100+ times over the last 2 years. I've found the other places underwhelming: Cafe Photo and Bomboa are just smaller worse versions. Casarao, while being mentioned often on this thread, is nothing to rave home about. Every city in South America has a Casarao like bar. While I consider Scandallo to probably be the best adult establishment worldwide now, its novelty has obviously died down for me and I'll also say I've noticed a bit of a decline in talent in the last year.
A note on Scandallo: I would say about 95% of its clientele are wealthier locals. Gringos represent a very small portion of its clients made up from the odd tourist or from this very board. In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me. In SP, there isn't much of a Gringo pricing mentality going on either which is refreshing. Pricing at Scandallo unofficially works by girls' tier: tier 1 has a pricing, tier 2 is lower and tier 3 is the lowest. You will not get a tier 1 girl for tier 3 pricing, since tier 1 girls will almost always be picked up, so if it isn't you, another client will accept.
The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Kinda funny, but I saw a few familiar faces in there that had no idea were P4 P. Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. They had no issues providing all social media with most girls having pretty big followings. My experiences on there were great and reliable, but at this price point you're competing with top talent in 1st world countries.
Food: SP is a great city for a foodie. Aside from the known places which are mentioned a lot, here are a few hidden gems:
- Tan Tan: cool mixology bar for a date with Asian cuisine.
- Kan Suke: favorite omakase in the city. Prices recently jumped and the place looks like a dump or the back of a NYC deli but who cares when the sushi is this good.
- Sushiguen: casual Japanese cuisine, had the biggest shrimp tempura I have ever seen.
- Baru Marisqueria: seafood with a Brazilian twist.
- Casa Rios and Tordesilhas for upscale Brazilian food.
- Picchi: solid Italian place in the city.
I am in SP until Sunday and then a few weeks in Rio. If I had to pick between the two, Rio is better. But SP is nice because SP has some of the most beautiful women of Brazil. You want model quality but miraculously you feel like they are in love with you also? SP is unbeatable. But flights are cheap between Rio and SP, so you can try both.
Scandallo and Bomboa are really amazing but it's a lot of money. If you don't mind spending $300-500 US a day on food and ass, these are top in the world. Scandallo is open for lunch but makes no sense to go there during the day IMO; b / c fewer girls and high prices. Plus the clinicas during the day are amazing in SP and like 1/4 the price. Most people hit Scandallo only once or twice in a week because it's a lot of food and drink (min consumption) and the girls are charging like double. Best place to stay in either place is an Airbnb, in SP I stay in Moema because there are lots of clinicas walking distance. Rio is a much more fun place to be because of the beach and the electric vibe Rio brings.
I don't think brown or any shade in between is an important factor in Brazil. People here never know what I am, I speak 3 languages which throws them off. But they don't care. Have fun.
[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2883142]I'm going through the forum, lots of detail but I'm hoping to get some direction.
Background: Early 30's, brown gringo, have done west Eur, USA / Can, Mex / Col. Experienced in the hobby but I don't speak any Porto.
I'd like to keep it simple as possible. Maybe gringo friendly clubs at night & any convenient day spas / agencies. Looking for those top Instagram fit, pretty types. Tourist attractions not a priority.
1) SP over Rio? Scandallo alone sounds like it could be plenty. Easy to get Scandallo girls during the day? Other equivalent clubs?
2) Reqs where to stay that are girl friendly, safe, convenient to food? I'd rather stay somewhere nice for 3-4 days than a cheaper spot for 5-6.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Parks292;2883205]A note on Scandallo: In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me.[/QUOTE]What are you paying then, if we might know?
[QUOTE]The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. [/QUOTE]So assuming you are paying around $1000 R / HR for tier 1 at Scandallo, you are paying $2-3000 R / HR ($400-600 USD / hour) for these Whatsapp girls?
"whatsapp contact by referral" = PIMP.
[QUOTE=Putero1;2883431]What are you paying then, if we might know?
So assuming you are paying around $1000 R / HR for tier 1 at Scandallo, you are paying $2-3000 R / HR ($400-600 USD / hour) for these Whatsapp girls?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2880508]The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Foolish;2880467]IMO, I would think about these things differently. This is Brazil, don't think of upselling for what you want. [/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.
As reported by Veja, Brasilian government defers date for visa requirements for US citizens, Canadians and Australians until April 10,2024.
[QUOTE=Parks292;2883205]SP is in my top 3 cities worldwide. I now spend a couple of months a year here. About half of the girls I meet are civilians (I'm probably a bit younger than most) and the other half aren't. SP really shines for regular civilians, I'm fluent in Portuguese which definitely helps.
For P4 P, I generally stick to Scandallo and have probably been there 100+ times over the last 2 years. I've found the other places underwhelming: Cafe Photo and Bomboa are just smaller worse versions. Casarao, while being mentioned often on this thread, is nothing to rave home about. Every city in South America has a Casarao like bar. While I consider Scandallo to probably be the best adult establishment worldwide now, its novelty has obviously died down for me and I'll also say I've noticed a bit of a decline in talent in the last year.
A note on Scandallo: I would say about 95% of its clientele are wealthier locals. Gringos represent a very small portion of its clients made up from the odd tourist or from this very board. In regards to price, I know 2 of the people who run the place and a couple of working girls who have become friends. I also have quite a few Brazilian friends who are regulars at the establishment, and know what they are paying and it's the same as me. In SP, there isn't much of a Gringo pricing mentality going on either which is refreshing. Pricing at Scandallo unofficially works by girls' tier: tier 1 has a pricing, tier 2 is lower and tier 3 is the lowest. You will not get a tier 1 girl for tier 3 pricing, since tier 1 girls will almost always be picked up, so if it isn't you, another client will accept.
The highest-end working girls I found in the city are via a whatsapp contact that works by referral that I was invited to (what some refer to as a pink book I think). Kinda funny, but I saw a few familiar faces in there that had no idea were P4 P. Prices were about 2-3 X Scandallo and girls were on average 1 notch above in looks. They had no issues providing all social media with most girls having pretty big followings. My experiences on there were great and reliable, but at this price point you're competing with top talent in 1st world countries.
Food: SP is a great city for a foodie. Aside from the known places which are mentioned a lot, here are a few hidden gems:
- Tan Tan: cool mixology bar for a date with Asian cuisine.
- Kan Suke: favorite omakase in the city. Prices recently jumped and the place looks like a dump or the back of a NYC deli but who cares when the sushi is this good.
- Sushiguen: casual Japanese cuisine, had the biggest shrimp tempura I have ever seen.
- Baru Marisqueria: seafood with a Brazilian twist.
- Casa Rios and Tordesilhas for upscale Brazilian food.
- Picchi: solid Italian place in the city.[/QUOTE]Picchi is very good, while Tordesilhas is an excellent choice if you want to try dishes from different regions from Brasil, both located nearby (Jardins). Another great place is Sal Gastronomia located in Higienópolis.
One night I went to Bahamas Club in SP where I met an attractive 19 year old spinner. I bought her a drink and she passed the audition although I felt at the time that she had swooshed down her beer a little too fast. Anyway, we went upstairs and fairly soon thereafter we got into a little disagreement when she refused to give me a BBBJ in the room. I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly, I gave up, called off the session against the girl's pleas not to do so, and I marched downstairs. The manager, who I knew from my last trip to SP, was cool and he did not charge me for the room. He also told me that BBBJ's were technically up to the girl and the customer to a agree upon, but that I was under no obligation to give the girl anything for the aborted session. I gave her 200 BR anyway instead of our agreed upon 600 BR because I felt it was the right thing to do. I also think the experience brought her down a peg in the eyes of all the other Bahama girls and may have taught her a valuable lesson, but who knows. Read on:
News of our event spread rapidly among the girls in the club and soon afterwards, a buxom blond with ginormous tits sat down next to me. She knew all about the previous incident and told me Vanessa was new on the job. But if I took "Buxom" upstairs, she would blow me until I came in her mouth. I declined her invitation, but a little later, I hooked up with a different blond with a pretty face and natural tits. We went upstairs where we DFK'd for 10 minutes or so which was then followed up with a kneeling bareback deep throat BJ and what I like to call a labia massage where a girl positions herself so that my dick runs parallel to her private parts, no penetration, but plenty of stimulation for both of us. This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. Later we had covered vaginal sex in 3 positions which ran into overtime. There was no rush to finish and we took our time showering and lastly exchanging Whatsup info. It was a damn good session! 600 BR.
Later I went outside to the veranda where I lit up a Cohiba and chatted with 3 girls who were hanging out there. One of the 3 girls was a GF of my original girl. They all wanted to go upstairs with me for round #2. 5. KKK. One girl asked if I liked weed. I said I did, but that I was on the wagon, IE no weed for me. KKK. Eventually the girls went inside while I continued to enjoy my Cohiba, but the weed girl came back outside and asked if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I said perhaps another time.
Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobil service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
[QUOTE=Fewdie;2883620]I get 5 G with my pixel in Brazil using T-Mobile. The cell towers were vivo and claro. [/QUOTE]As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.
Check out Clinica Zeus a couple of doors down the hill from Yankin at Dr. Jose de Querios Aranha #214. The half hour is are $100. The selection is smaller and a half step or so below Yankin but it will do in a pinch.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2883567]Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.[/QUOTE]
I don't know how I forgot to mention this in my original report, but while I was lying on my back in bed buck naked, fumbling around with Google Translate, and Sheila was sitting on my thigh giving me a rather interesting hand job while refusing to blow me without a condom; she did offer a BBBJ for an additional 100 BR. This was the straw and that led me to abort the session along with my growing frustration with the fucking phone. Later after I had spoken with the manager and everything was cool, I took Sheila aside and tried to talk to her. Bahamas WiFi was working ok in the bar area. Her line of reasoning was that BBBJ's were dangerous, and a lot of Brazilian men had health issues, but I did not take up her point. I merely told her if she was so set against BBBJ's then why did she try to upsell me for 100 BR. She had no response to that, and I was under no obligation to do anything further, but I gave her 200 BR anyway for our 10 minutes together and because I am a nice guy. Then I just walked away and moved on to better things.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693]Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobile service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.[/QUOTE]First of all, T-Mobile has nothing to do with what happened. All you gots to do is know some elementary Portuguese, like "sexo oral sem camishina". And second, you don't have to have any kind of pass if you have the right kind of plan. I have an international plan. My phone and internet works when I step off of the plane without a bunch of outrageous roaming charges. If you don't do even just a little bit of preparation and planning in advance, then you get what you get. Which might be a CBJ LOL!
I'm not as frequent a visitor as you seem to be. When I am there, I use T-Mobile with no international pass. I have a US based plan (US $50/ month) that includes unlimited text and wifi calling along with unlimited data that is capped at 256 K speed worldwide. It connects to Vivo in Sao Paulo and I've noticed it shows the 5 G. I don't use google translate so that is maybe why I don't find a need to add on to the plan. I do notice it is somewhat slower than what I'm used to when I am using Claro in Colombia or T-Mobile 5 G in the US, but it works plenty fast enough with uber, whatsapp, and casual web browsing.
Tough luck about the girl trying to give you a are $600 hand job. I might not have paid her are $200, maybe half that much. It's worth it to maintain good relations with the management and the other girls. I hope she was much more attractive than the girls in the clinicas who we get for are $150 to are $200. Speaking of clinicas, I always laugh when I see the cellophane wrapped disposable hair combs and mouthwash because it's the Brazilian custom that justifies higher price points at clinicas like Abbobora and others, along with nice girls in some cases.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693]One night I went to Bahamas Club in SP where I met an attractive 19 year old spinner. I bought her a drink and she passed the audition although I felt at the time that she had swooshed down her beer a little too fast. Anyway, we went upstairs and fairly soon thereafter we got into a little disagreement when she refused to give me a BBBJ in the room. I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly, I gave up, called off the session against the girl's pleas not to do so, and I marched downstairs. The manager, who I knew from my last trip to SP, was cool and he did not charge me for the room. He also told me that BBBJ's were technically up to the girl and the customer to a agree upon, but that I was under no obligation to give the girl anything for the aborted session. I gave her 200 BR anyway instead of our agreed upon 600 BR because I felt it was the right thing to do. I also think the experience brought her down a peg in the eyes of all the other Bahama girls and may have taught her a valuable lesson, but who knows. Read on:
News of our event spread rapidly among the girls in the club and soon afterwards, a buxom blond with ginormous tits sat down next to me. She knew all about the previous incident and told me Vanessa was new on the job. But if I took "Buxom" upstairs, she would blow me until I came in her mouth. I declined her invitation, but a little later, I hooked up with a different blond with a pretty face and natural tits. We went upstairs where we DFK'd for 10 minutes or so which was then followed up with a kneeling bareback deep throat BJ and what I like to call a labia massage where a girl positions herself so that my dick runs parallel to her private parts, no penetration, but plenty of stimulation for both of us. This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. Later we had covered vaginal sex in 3 positions which ran into overtime. There was no rush to finish and we took our time showering and lastly exchanging Whatsup info. It was a damn good session! 600 BR.
Later I went outside to the veranda where I lit up a Cohiba and chatted with 3 girls who were hanging out there. One of the 3 girls was a GF of my original girl. They all wanted to go upstairs with me for round #2. 5. KKK. One girl asked if I liked weed. I said I did, but that I was on the wagon, IE no weed for me. KKK. Eventually the girls went inside while I continued to enjoy my Cohiba, but the weed girl came back outside and asked if I wanted to go upstairs with her. I said perhaps another time.
Before I left the club, I saw the first girl sulking around in the bar area. Everyone knew what had happened between us. I gave her a knowing smile and shrugged my shoulders visually saying I am sorry, sort of, for what happened, but it could not have been avoided since you decided not to pleasure me properly. In the final analysis, however, I put most of the blame on the phone connection and regular T-Mobil service for our miscommunication and our aborted session. I still refuse to negotiate for BBBJ and this was the only time on this latest trip when I did not get one.
Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693] I pulled out my phone and tried to reason with her using my T-Mobile 15 GB 30 Day International Pass (15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling), but Google translate refused to cooperate. It was really a funny scene although at the time I did not think so. HA HA. I mean there I was lying in bed naked while a nude girl spread eagled over my right thigh was massaging my dick as I tried, without success, to get Google Translate to do its job. It didn't and the Bahamas Wifi wasn't working to well in the room either, so after 10 minutes in this situation ie her giving me a seductive hand job while I was fumbling around trying to get my phone to work properly,
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Lastly, I even had trouble connecting with Uber after I left the club and I had to reenter the club to pick up the WiFi and connect with Uber. It was not until I was back at my hotel when I noticed a T-Mobile text message sent earlier that evening informing me that my 30 day International Pass had expired and if I wanted to add another 30 days all I had to do was click on the link provided, which I immediately did. End of story. T-Mobile International Pass is a necessity in Brazil if you want to use T-mobile service on your cell phone in SP.
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.[/QUOTE]It is always best to download the offline Portuguese (Brazil) version of Google Translate, so if no WiFi connection you can still use the app to successfully to translate your conversation without the need for WiFi.
Also as backup you could add GoogleFi for WiFi service. However, it could have been location in building or something blocking your WiFi Signal. Also consider when having connection issues to switch your phone to WiFi only or cellular only, sometimes when there is a weak signal the phone may be fighting between the protocols to obtain a signal.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693]
As my report clearly shows, I use T-Mobile service, but I find it woefully inadequate on its own and thus it is an absolute necessity to buy the T-Mobil International Pass if you want to use your cell phone with T-Mobile outside of local WIFI hookups in SP. It ain't cheap, but it works very well. Here are the rates:
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.[/QUOTE]If you have a dual sim phone, AIRALO is cheaper in Brazil for high speed data.
5 GB /30 days /$15.5.
10 GB /30 days /$26.
I always use this and the app shows you how much you have left so you can top off easily.
If you are OK with spending an additional are $50 to are $60 per go, you will find much more attractive girls at avenida Miruna 644, Moema Prime (avenida Irai 511), and other places in Moema. The facilities are also nicer. They are the middle ground compromise between the down and dirty Vila Mariana and below places and the sky high Scandallo and similar boates. Scandallo has been a bit of a religious pilgrimage for punters for 20 years now. For me the novelty wore off after a couple of visits I didn't even have to pay for because my colleagues expensed it. The girls there are absolutely a cut above in attractiveness to the lower priced places and they do the classic courtesan thing. It's worth it for many of us.
[QUOTE=Sp1000;2883567]Thanks for your answers and here is my report.
I visited Yankin on Wednesday afternoon after receiving a Whatsapp reply that there are around 10 girls. The kind gentleman (likely the owner?) at the front desk could speak good English. Available girls were quickly presented one*by one while it was hard to remember who was who at the end (maybe because there was no real hottie for me to choose). The gentleman let me see the girls again by going to the girls' lounge with me. When I asked about extra services, the gentleman kindly answered that BBBJ are generally included as a part of classic*sex, while others, one of which was*CIM, may be done after reaching an agreement*or negotiating with the girl. Girls' appearances were a*bit disappointing but I picked one. Unfortunately, this girl denied BBBJ. Then I realized that I should have confirmed this (maybe in front*of the front desk gentleman) before going into the room. Just plain sex at 150/30 min and I did not feel like*extending. I paid for lessons.
I visited Tangara on*Sunday afternoon. Via WhatsApp they*sent*me photos of*around 6 or 7 girls that are*working. When I reached in front of this place, I was a bit confused. I could not find a house number or a parking lot indicating the place is in business. Just pushed a door bell next to a blue door after checking the google map street view. Only two girls were presented to me when I was on a seat. And I had to wait for 15 minutes to see the girl that I was interested in based on Whatsapp photos. Since more guys came in, I was a bit nervous and looked over the*girls' lounge. Actually the girl was there so I showed my interest. *This girl's attitude was as good as her appearance. 150/30 min including BBBJ.
I would visit Tangara again when I have a chance. Next time I would check the girls' lounge often. It seems that the staff does not always show available girls to me as soon as they are available.[/QUOTE]
Axel you seem like a man of means. You should just get Google Fi and chuck all that TMobile crap. It's $70/ mo and does unlimited data in 220 countries. You can pause and restart anytime you want so if you travel irregularly you don't have to pay monthly. I travel a lot so I just keep it year round and it's been a life saver. Finding girls at their incall flats in London. Never being without Wi-Fi. Ever. It's great. Worth every penny.
BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.
The CBJ finally caught up to you. I know that naked feeling as I have been there a few times. Haha. What did you think you could say to change her mind?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693]... This girl performed the BBBJ & the labia massage while standing and on the bed. ....[/QUOTE]I have a paisa spinner that does this very well. She basically float on my body because she is so light. I can face fuck her at this position and she cooperated very well.
Brazil postpones visa requirements for USA, Canada and Australia citizens to April. Brazilian officials say they have postponed for the second time the reintroduction of requirements to obtain tourist visas for citizens of the USA, Australia and Canada.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2883838]Axel you seem like a man of means. You should just get Google Fi and chuck all that TMobile crap. It's $70/ mo and does unlimited data in 220 countries. You can pause and restart anytime you want so if you travel irregularly you don't have to pay monthly. I travel a lot so I just keep it year round and it's been a life saver. Finding girls at their incall flats in London. Never being without Wi-Fi. Ever. It's great. Worth every penny.
BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.[/QUOTE]Have you guys found google fi or tmobile to provide more reliable service in sao Paulo & Rio? My experience with tmobile in sao Paulo is the signal is bad about 20% of the time.
Download the app "Airalo" and assuming your phone has esim, you get 10 gb for $25/30 days, half the price. I got cancelled by google fi because I sometimes I spend more than 3 months at a time outside of the US and that's against their terms of service. Great report and thanks for taking a stand on the BBBJ, this is exactly what I do, always. This is a Hard No for me anywhere, especially in Brazil where it almost never happens. Cheers.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2883693]
1) International 1 Day Pass: 512 MB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 24 hours, for $5/ day.
2) 5 GB International Pass: 5 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 10 days, for $35.
3) 15 GB International Pass: 15 GB of high-speed data and unlimited calling, to be used up to 30 days, for $50.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BenTiger07;2883925]Have you guys found google fi or tmobile to provide more reliable service in sao Paulo & Rio? My experience with tmobile in sao Paulo is the signal is bad about 20% of the time.[/QUOTE]Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.
That is how any mobile carrier international roaming plan works. GoogleFi's privacy policy is what sets it apart. Like any google product, you have to go through lots of hoops to retain any control of your personal data. Unlike other google products, GoogleFi doesn't offer much cost advantage over competitive products that comply with international personal data protection laws.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2884070]Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2884070]Google Fi always reliable. I used it in prob ten countries last year including stops in Rio and SP. No issues. You do have to wait I a few minutes when you land and reboot phone to get best network. Other than that works like a champ.[/QUOTE]I checked out Google Fi and their unlimited + plan which is $65/ month vrs my T-mobil $50/ month plan. I spend roughly 3 months per year travelling in foreign countries (Brazil exclusively since April 2021), so T-mobil international pass adds another $150/ year to my tab for a grand total of $750/ year all in and in addition they give me Paramount + which is a small perk.
Google Fi unlimited + plan is $65/ month which comes to $780/ year and they throw in a year of YouTube Premium. The only benefit I see in switching to Google Fi would be if I wanted a new phone. For new subscribers Google Fi offers its Google Pixel 8 Pro for $12.46 per month discounted from $41.62 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $999 $41.62/ mo $12.46/ mo with 24 bill credits which comes to $700 back after 24 months.
Or Google Fi offers a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra at $27.08 per month discounted from $50.00 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $1,199.99 $50.00/ mo $27.08/ mo with 24 bill credits. Retail price: $1,199.99 which comes to $550 back after 24 months.
If I needed a new phone I would jump on the Google offer. But I have a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra which is working fine, so I don't think I will change plans right now, but I will keep this in mind when the time comes to buy a new phone.
[QUOTE=Putero1;2883956]Download the app "Airalo" and assuming your phone has esim, you get 10 gb for $25/30 days, half the price. I got cancelled by google fi because I sometimes I spend more than 3 months at a time outside of the US and that's against their terms of service. Great report and thanks for taking a stand on the BBBJ, this is exactly what I do, always. This is a Hard No for me anywhere, especially in Brazil where it almost never happens. Cheers.[/QUOTE]How does the esim work it just allows your phone to connect to local Brazil network? Through the Airalo app.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2883854]The CBJ finally caught up to you. I know that naked feeling as I have been there a few times. Haha. What did you think you could say to change her mind?
[/QUOTE]Yep, CBJ finally caught up to me. KKK. Probably nothing could have changed her mind, but she did offer BBBJ for a 100 BR upsell which was the final straw (I would have accepted a 100 BR upsell for BBFS, however). Two other gals, one in and Abbobora and another one in Sharon prematurely reached for a condom lying on the nightstand. I merely said not now and they both dropped the idea and gave me decent BBBJ's. But this covered BJ nonsense may be a trend especially among younger Brazilia girls entering the profession post Omicron. I don't know. We will have to wait and see.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2883838] BTW that labia massage thing has a word in Japanese. It's called Sumata. And yeah it can be pretty great done right.[/QUOTE]This was the 1st time I experienced it in Brazil, but I used to enjoy wet labia massages all the time in Rio Sauna & Familia Nobre in Macau AND occasionally in La Belle & the Lord (my all-time favorite soapy before they were shut down by Thai authorities for stealing city water).
[QUOTE=TheCane;2883743] All you gots to do is know some elementary Portuguese, like "sexo oral sem camishina". [/QUOTE]I will remember the phrase, but I prefer not to talk about specific acts during the audition assuming a BBBJ is the default. But if my assumption results in few more aborted sessions, I will adapt to the new post-covid world and specify exactly what I want. I did not make it to Casuara this time around partly because of what I was hearing from other punters and partly because by midnight I have already had one girl and if I wanted another girl, I would just hung out at the Boate I was already in.
Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Back in the day when I used to lay over for a few nights in AMS on my way to and from BKK, I used to dabble a little with the store front gals. Everything had to be negotiated before walking into a girl's room. Bra off, kissing nipples; everything was extra and CBJ's was the default in AMS. Good thing I was stoned on Nederhash laced joints and was therefor very flexible. KKK. I also knew I was going to be in SE Asia in a couple of days and my layover was just a warmup for much better things to come.
[quote=coolgregg;2883869]brazil postpones visa requirements for usa, canada and australia citizens to april. Brazilian officials say they have postponed for the second time the reintroduction of requirements to obtain tourist visas for citizens of the usa, australia and canada.[/quote]great news.
[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2884398]How does the esim work it just allows your phone to connect to local Brazil network? Through the Airalo app.[/QUOTE]Download the app. Purchase the eSIM you want for Brazil. Click on install once you are in Brazil. I do it while waiting for bags to come out and connected to airport WiFi.
You need to be connected to WiFi and have an unlocked phone for the eSIM to install.
What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.
[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot-connected-devices/inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g[/URL]
Or even a starlink (see attached). If I have a friend bring me one from the USA can I use that device?
Maybe this should be on the general info thread. But there is also a business opportunity here.
See [URL]economist.com[/URL] for articles on hackers in Brazil. Maybe this is just the group to find talent for that biz. Goes well with fcking, which is part of the 3 F's of Brazilian culture, along with fighting and futbol.
Speaking of which, where are my German soccer fans out there? I could use some authentic German National Team soccer shirts-- will pay Fair Market Value! Since I am from a Hamburg family, which immigrated to Switzerland during the wars, and from thence to Brazil.
Vasco uber alles!
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2884223]I checked out Google Fi and their unlimited + plan which is $65/ month vrs my T-mobil $50/ month plan. I spend roughly 3 months per year travelling in foreign countries (Brazil exclusively since April 2021), so T-mobil international pass adds another $150/ year to my tab for a grand total of $750/ year all in and in addition they give me Paramount + which is a small perk.
Google Fi unlimited + plan is $65/ month which comes to $780/ year and they throw in a year of YouTube Premium. The only benefit I see in switching to Google Fi would be if I wanted a new phone. For new subscribers Google Fi offers its Google Pixel 8 Pro for $12.46 per month discounted from $41.62 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $999 $41.62/ mo $12.46/ mo with 24 bill credits which comes to $700 back after 24 months.
Or Google Fi offers a Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra at $27.08 per month discounted from $50.00 per month with 24 bill credits, Retail price: $1,199.99 $50.00/ mo $27.08/ mo with 24 bill credits. Retail price: $1,199.99 which comes to $550 back after 24 months.
If I needed a new phone I would jump on the Google offer. But I have a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra which is working fine, so I don't think I will change plans right now, but I will keep this in mind when the time comes to buy a new phone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YetAnotherGuy;2884538]How does one find Casarao on google maps? I'm having trouble finding it. Thanks![/QUOTE]Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?
Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2884545]Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?
Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.[/QUOTE]Even if you type Casarao Augusta you don't get it. But strangely if you type Casarao Boate. It comes up no problem.
[QUOTE=Vagabundo1;2884481]What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.
[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot-connected-devices/inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g[/URL]
[/QUOTE]I am not sure this product is applicable for what you want to do with it in RJ. Maybe is my answer, because the question is a little bit above my pay grade. KKK. In any case here is a link to PC magazine's review of the product: [URL]https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/t-mobile-inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g-m3000[/URL].
PC Mag gives it a 4. 5 Star "OUTSTANDING" review.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2884548]Even if you type Casarao Augusta you don't get it. But strangely if you type Casarao Boate. It comes up no problem.[/QUOTE]Bing found it no problem.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2884599]Bing found it no problem.[/QUOTE]And same same with my Google & DuckDuck searches, so I don't know what the problem is. Probably something to do with your VPN or local server.
Thanks man.
I owe you a drink.
Oh, and when you need to actually get photo for your Brazilian Visa, you might just want to try Apple iPhoto or Adobe Photoshop. Not sayin, just sayin.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2884581]I am not sure this product is applicable for what you want to do with it in RJ. Maybe is my answer, because the question is a little bit above my pay grade. KKK. In any case here is a link to PC magazine's review of the product: [URL]https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/t-mobile-inseego-mifi-x-pro-5g-m3000[/URL].
PC Mag gives it a 4. 5 Star "OUTSTANDING" review.[/QUOTE]
When Vagabundo's grandfather was in the German Army on the outskirts of Salingrad 2027, he used a Starlink dish purchased in Atlanta Georgia and shipped to Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, manned by hoars from high rises in Rio De Janeiro's prives and Sao Paulo's clinicas to call in money strikes and air strikes to destroy all the final remnants of the Hamas Russian Chinese hold outs and dead enders in Moscow. Thereafter followed 332 years of raping, murdering, pillaging and hoaring, thus ensuring that internationalsexguide. NL became the number one website on the internet. Selah.
OK, and with an intro like that, who the f wants to go into the starlink ganjacoffeeshopstripclub business with Attorney Surgeon General Vagabundo? Or in the immortal words of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
What is best in life?
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the women!
What about mobile hotspots, unlimited T-mobile, global roaming? Like this.
[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/hotspot-iot...-mifi-x-pro-5g[/URL]
Or even a starlink (see attached). If I have a friend bring me one from the USA can I use that device?
Maybe this should be on the general info thread. But there is also a business opportunity here.
See [URL]economist.com[/URL] for articles on hackers in Brazil. Maybe this is just the group to find talent for that biz. Goes well with fcking, which is part of the 3 F's of Brazilian culture, along with fighting and futbol.
Speaking of which, where are my German soccer fans out there? I could use some authentic German National Team soccer shirts-- will pay Fair Market Value! Since I am from a Hamburg family, which immigrated to Switzerland during the wars, and from thence to Brazil.
Vasco uber alles!
Tried to research, but nothing came up. Any websites? Thanks.
It pops up on uber and indriver also.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2884839]And same same with my Google & DuckDuck searches, so I don't know what the problem is. Probably something to do with your VPN or local server.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2884545]Hmm not sure if Google shadow bans select businesses?
Type "Casarao Augusta" or as fall back look up "Tropicalo Club" and Casarao will be two doors to the left.[/QUOTE]What do you see when you click on map tab in google result? Or just search on google map.
I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and São Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).
[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2885095]I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and So Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).[/QUOTE]FKK Sharks, Darmstadt.
FKK Globe, Zurich.
[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2885095]I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and So Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).[/QUOTE]Seriously. I have been everywhere. Nothing can touch Scandallo worldwide for the number and talent level of the girls, nor honestly the scope and luxury of it. Def baddest chick venue on the planet. And they are all Brasileiras! Baddest chicks on the planet attitude wise. It's the mega win. Will be boots on the ground soon and def report out.
[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2885095]I don't have huge mongering experience, Medellin, Rio and So Paulo so far. But after visiting Scandallo I have to say that this place outperformed anything in Rio and Medellin. Is just incredible and so many girls look like models. Yeah it's expensive, I average around 500 usd per visit but experience is just amazing. Do you know any place in the world that is on the same level as Scandallo? (because I don't believe there's anything better).[/QUOTE]If you know, you know. And if you don't, then you better ask somebody! What I say, what I say? It's the [B]baddest puta palace[/B] on the planet!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdhYePsTaTk&ab_channel=SCANDALLOLOUNGETV[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGhXnW5uz_8&ab_channel=IvainTures[/URL]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2885144]Seriously. I have been everywhere. Nothing can touch Scandallo worldwide for the number and talent level of the girls, nor honestly the scope and luxury of it. Def baddest chick venue on the planet. And they are all Brasileiras! Baddest chicks on the planet attitude wise. It's the mega win. Will be boots on the ground soon and def report out.[/QUOTE]Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?
[QUOTE=XXL;2885140]FKK Sharks, Darmstadt.
FKK Globe, Zurich.[/QUOTE]Comparing FKKs to a Brazilian boate is a bit like comparing oranges to tangerines.
One has a sauna / spa like atmosphere with amenities to fit, while the other is a luxurious nighttime club, restaurant and lounge.
Both FKKs you listed aren't even close to Scandallo in the most important thing for a hobbyist. The girls. This is especially true and the gap has only grown post-pandemic.
Sharks might compete occasionally with Scandallo with regards to the amount of girls present. But in terms of quality and service of the girls, Scandallo wins easily.
Taste in women is subjective, but I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.
In the past, you could argue that you could get more value / bang for your buck at FKKs, but with the increase in FKK pricing and the weak real, that's no longer the case.
I have been going to FKKs for over a decade, as I travel to Europe for work often. I used to visit them almost daily / nightly on my trips. In my last few trips since the pandemic, I've soured on them so much after my initial visit of the trip, I've not returned on subsequent days.
I think the only areas that I now consider FKKs to be superior are: 1) if you prefer naked girls walking around over girls in revealing dresses 2) you prefer the Romanian or Eastern European look (although those can be found in Scandallo too) or 3) you enjoy watching public sex (FKK Gkobe only).
With that said, I think all hobbyist should visit a big or well known FKK at least once in their life. It is a sight to see. And who knows, FKKs might be their preferred hobbying venue.
[QUOTE=BartSimpson5;2885362]Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?[/QUOTE]Fwiw I agree with pretty much everything Socrates said. I suppose the key point is there is a big drop off after Scandallo. Nothing comes close for the combination of number of girls, luxe atmosphere, and good GFE experience (on balance your average brasileira is more sexually engaging than any other country imo). So honestly if I was going to go somewhere else it might just be Casarao. Yes a major step down but packed with people and plenty of hot girls. So it would prob make my top five. Or maybe Bomboa or Cafe Photo could be argued for the list. I hope to hit all of the major SP clubs in the next few months and will be sure to compare and contrast here.
As Socrates says FKK is a very different experience and something every man must do. My buddy Blue Moon just fucked 10 chicks this past week in an epic FKK tour. Very doable thing! And XXL has the lineup right. Globe is prob the best FKK in the world for guaranteed service. Zurich. And Sharks has the glitz and glam more like Scandallo but down a notch in class ones for sure and the girls are very pushy.
I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.
Manhattan in Shanghai was amazing with tons of Viets but China is cracking down so not 100% sure it's as good. As with SP I plan to disambiguate this later this year!
And Penthouse or Aurora or Angels in Moscow might get the nod if you could travel there. So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:
Globe FKK.
Sharks FKK.
Oase FKK.
Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).
Vive.
I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.
Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2885453]So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:
Globe FKK.
Sharks FKK.
Oase FKK.
Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).
Vive.
I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.
Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.[/QUOTE]Brazil and Germany are my two favorite countries for mongering (I like Spain a lot too but not as much these days due to decreased value delivery for the money). So, I don't have a real issue with your list except for Globe in Switzerland. The cost of mongering there (girls, transportation, lodging, food, etc.) is all way, way, way too high. Zurich is consistently ranked as one of the most expensive cities in the world. For anyone who is a "budget monger" (I'm not one) it's totally out of the question as an option. When it comes to pussy you can get the same girl optics and service level in Germany for half the price. That's been my experience. Now, should every man experience Globe at least once if he can? Yeah. But go there on any kind of regular basis? Naw! Not unless you just happen to live there and you really can't get away. As far as the Rio termas go they will always get a big thumbs up from me. But I can see why you were underwhelmed. My last experiences with them weren't nearly as good as when I first started going in the early 2000's, even at the world famous 4 x4. I found a girl there I liked and had a good session, but the place had really fallen off in terms of talent. It used to be loaded with hotties delivering PSE sex in the room. We all just need to remember that it all works in cycles. The place that was hot last time is not this time, and vice versa. But, there's always next time. So here's hoping for the future!
Destinations (based totally on personal preference):
1. Brazil.
2. Germany.
3. Spain.
4. Costa Rica.
5. Thailand (number 1 if you're into Asian chicks).
Clubs (based on total years of experience going to each):
1. Scandallo (Sao Paulo).
2. Quatro por Quatro (Rio de Janeiro).
3. Oase (Frankfurt).
4. Artemis (Berlin).
5. Palace (Frankfurt).
You'll notice that I don't have popular FKK Sharks on my list. There's nothing particularly wrong with Sharks that I can point to. It's just not a club that has ever really worked for me. Can't put my finger on why. It just doesn't. Not for me. And these top 5 lists are only just scratching the surface. There are so many countries to visit and clubs to see where you can have a good time! My experience is light in Asia mainly because I'm really not attracted to most Asian women. ISO, I can't justify spending money going to Asia to monger a lot. But the Philippines is another must-do destination if you're a monger. Does not make my top 5 destination list, but if I liked Asian women more it would be number 2 right after Thailand. Yes sir it would! Dubai is another one. The place offers the best diversity in the world (last night I doggy fucked a Russian blonde, tonight I'm fucking some exotic Turkmen pussy, and tomorrow night going to Ratsky to get me a Filipina spinner. And York has Ethiopians, Chinese, and Turks)!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2885453]
I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.
[/QUOTE]Great post!
Vive, however, does not have all South American girls.
Lots of them, true.
[QUOTE=SocratesNY;2885435]
I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.
[/QUOTE]Out of all the Romanian women I've been with, only one is was true gem.
Out of all the Brazilian women I've been with, only one is was true suck.
What's the deal with Tangara?
They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.
Warning: I dig Asian girls! I also dig Brazilian girls! And I don't know a thing about European bordellos and do not care. 555.
I will break it down like this: currently I have 2 favorite mongering destinations where I enjoy spending a lot of time (more than a month in each place per visit): Brazil & LOS, more specifically I like SP, BKK, and Pattaya.
Note: if any of you South American aficionados have not been to Thailand, GO before it is too late! Sooner rather than later / take my word for it. Because no place on Earth has the volume and quantity of girls, bars, massage parlors, FL's, SWs, and you name it, they got it from 11 am to 5 am. And it is all out in the open. Just roll out of your hotel and you are in the thick of it. It is fucking amazing! It changed my life 30 years ago!
Girls:
There are a number of worthy SE Asian destinations that I like almost as much as Brazil & LOS, but I wouldn't want to spend more than 2 weeks in many of these cities on any one trip. Currently post covid, I am thinking mostly about going back to Jakarta & Phnom Penh, but if looks and performance count as it does in my book, I give the edge to Jakarta over Phnom narrowly.
Jakarta girls usually come with pretty SE Asian faces, well-endowed natural ta ta's and they usually have slender bodies with few tats or surgical work unlike Thai girls. They are also more active and less spoiled in bed than Thai girls although not as GFE inclined as Khmer or Filipina girls. Kind of like the Asian equivalent of Brazilian girls. Ha Ha. Kind of.
Jakarta Bars & Clubs:
It is hard to compare various venues because of the differences between them from destination to destination. I consider Scandallo to be the benchmark. It is one of the best bordellos in the world, but it is unique because as a Boate it is essentially a FL bordello nightclub, bar / restaurant with live entertainment, a hefty consumable entry fee, hotel rooms, and if you want a reasonable girly take away fee.
Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine, is set up a little different than Scandallo or other SP Boates being that the girls either work for the club or work for a mamasan in the club and there is no girly take away fee except at prohibitory prices. Hotel Alexis, another great Jakarta bordello, which used to be my all-time favorite in terms of quality and quantity could easily rival Scandallo, but again it was not a takeout place and its girls worked for the house. I think of Hotel Alexis as an RJ Terma on steroids. Too bad it got busted and shut down in 2018 on account of having a few underage girls. Its replacement club, 1001 Pool, is just not as good IMHO, but they still have a large number (over 100) of girls on any given night.
But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.
Then there are the 5-star Jakarta Hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's and Bats. These bars resemble Scandallo too, but in a different way. A lot of FL girls show up at these bars every night. CJ's, the larger and better one, usually has at least a 100 girls most nights by 11 pm standing between the VIP section and the rest of the bar all dressed up really nice and sophisticated like waiting for Mr. Customer, but CJ's has no rooms unless you happen to be staying at the 5 star Mulia Senayan hotel (which houses CJ's on the 2nd floor) for a couple of hundred dollars / night. In any case, these high class FL pickup bars have a one drink minimum, but no barfine or girly exit fee. There are just high-class pick-up joints with "live" entertainment, drinks, and food. Find a girl you like and leave or stay, drink, party / fool around all night with your girl or girls and then leave.
So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. The CGK bordellos are in the north, the 5-star hotel pick up bars are in the south and you will need Bluebird taxis to get around. I highly recommend this city for a 2-week visit.
Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2885655]What's the deal with Tangara?
They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.[/QUOTE]Prebook thru whatsapp like most of the local do.
Thanks Axel for the epic post. I admit I have not been to Jakarta and have no reason to go. But now I'm going to make one! Two clarifications / augmentations to Axels post.
For those not familiar his use of LOS means Land of Smiles aka Thailand.
And he is 100% spot on that the neon and zillion bar girls trying to drag you into their club and the nearly unlimited quantity of gogos and hot girls is epic in Thailand. If a man is to plan a complete life he must do Scandallo, FKK, and Thailand (I prefer Nana plaza to Cowboy these days). And apparently Jakarta as well. I will start planning! Thanks Axel.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885656]So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.[/QUOTE]I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. That's hard to imagine!
I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.
Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.
In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885656].....Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine.......[/QUOTE]I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.
Hello fellow mongers,
I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove [URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL].
They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.
TY.
My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.
Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.
Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.
Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.
Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me 🤣.
I would like to try to hit up the FKKs once and maybe hit some spots in Spain. But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH!
Speaking of Tangará, has anyone tried Larissa? Her photos look hooooot! Can't see her face tho.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2885696]I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. [/QUOTE]It is a legitimate question, but I rarely do anal, so I can't say with any degree of accuracy. But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand. I assume you are speaking of covered anal, right? KKK. P.S. The best anal I ever had was in RJ with a Barra Vips girl. Go figure! Man, did she have a sweet back door. I loved anal with her.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2885747] 1) I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.
2) Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.
3) In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.[/QUOTE]1) I have heard some similar stories about Classic girls and more or less girls in every port of call including Brazil. Every hooker has a tragic story to tell if you care to listen to it. My favorite BKK girl, who I saw for over 10 years, originally left her home in Udon and went to work in a Pattaya food stall preparing vegetables. Soon after she met a Thai boy who was a musician and an inveterate gambler. He ran up a huge debt with the local mobsters and when he could no longer pay the vig, he ran way, leaving poor Mini on the hook. She started working in Baccara Cowboy (where I met her in 2010) and eventually she paid off the debt & interest.
2) This is why in my previous post I advised guys who have never been there to go to Thailand now, the sooner the better. The trend over there is not good. I think I could still have a very good time in LOS if I went back, but for how long is the question. The trend in LOS is not our friend.
3) I agree with you with regards to sexual performance, attitude, and drive. Brazilian girls are amazing in bed and on average they outperform most Thai girls, but bareback is not the default here in Brazil. I have pals over in the Asian forums that were very interested in everything I had to say about Brazilian girls and Brazilian bordellos until the subject of condoms came up and after I told them the truth, they lost interest. KKK. BTW, Thailand is the most conservative SE Asian country in this regard, but Thai girls are not as conservative as their Brazilian sisters. It took me 7 sessions & 1. 5 trips before my favorite Scandallo girl dropped her condom requirement. But it was worth the wait. KKK.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2885822] I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree. Indo girls are very hot & sexy! Best in SE Asia (maybe). KKK. I want to go back!
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2885868] My first visit to Scandello was in Feb 2020 and I was blown away. I was going to Brazil before but never really explored SP. I was either in Rio for a few days and / or some other small town in other states. Now I make sure I stay in SP on every trip for a few days. Since then I have found this site to be very useful in finding other venues in other countries that I visit. I have traveled to a few countries since then and this is how I see them compared to Brazil.
Dubai highly overrated. Yes. There are hot Russians and Eastern Europeans but unless you are willing to drop some serious coin, you aren't getting those. Price and service wise. I was disappointed especially compared to Brazil. On my second trip, I just bought a flight ticket for my regular Scandello girl to meet me in Dubai and spend time with me instead of trying to find something.
Saigon One main place to find girls. Set up like a clinica. Lots of young skinny girls (which is my type) but nothing special. I like the talking and conversing so this wasn't my cup of tea. I visited it a few times while I was in town since that was pretty much the only sure thing in the area and it was clean and close to my hotel.
Bangkok hated it. I am not a fan of Asian girls. And the whole setup is just terrible. Yes they have lots of girls but majority are unfuckable. Never again.
Hong Kong pre Covid and pre Scandello I always enjoyed the Wan Chai bars and would always end up with a South American girl. Colombian or Venezuelan. Good service and I would enjoy it. Haven't been since Covid but going back this March. I have heard it has gone downhill so I am taking my regular Scandello girl and her friend who also works at Scandello on this trip which also includes Singapore. Asian persuasion doesn't work for me <snip> But other than that nothing really appeals to me after Brazil. Especially Scandello aka HEAVEN ON EARTH![/QUOTE]Scandallo blew me away the 1st time I went there too right after covid. Actually, while Omicron was still going strong in Oct / Nov 2021. Like I said it is the benchmark on which to compare all other places.
A well-travelled friend loves Saigon, but it all sounds too confusing to me. HKG was always on my SE Asian itinerary until the government limited the visa stay requirements for the girls making the city non profitable especially for Vietnamese girls. I loved the WanChai bars, but the prettiest girl I ever met in HKG was a Mongolian girl in Hari's Bar at the Holiday Inn on Nathan Rd. Hari's bar was a landmark! Macau was always on my itinerary too. What a selection of girls in the Saunas over there. And last, but far from least, Singapore. OMG. Who would have suspected that such a straight-laced city could have such a amazing mongering scene? Geylang casas (similar to Moema clinicas) in the day time, Geylang SW's at night. Imagine being surrounded by a couple of hundred girls on an otherwise quiet residential street. It was amazing. And lest I ever forget the Orchard road bar scene. I will never foreget Brix bar in the basement of the Hyatt and the world class Ipanema bar located on the 2nd floor in Orchard Towers. What a town!
Which reminds me how everything can and go to hell change overnight. I am glad we still have SP & RJ, Jakarta, Phnom. The trend is not our friend.
P.S. You flew your favorite Scandallo girl to Dubai. Wow! You are an ADDICT. My hat's off to you. I have fantasized little about taking my favorite Scandallo girl to BKK. A day or two on Sukhumvit and then fly down to the southern islands. So far, I have only taken her to a nearby beach. Last visit, she mentioned Monte Verde and she has a car, so that might be our next road trip, but I really want to go up north and check out the beaches in NE Brazil. It's all good. I am back barely 2 weeks and I am already planning out my next Brazil trip.
The recent conversations reminded me of a night a few weeks back in SP. My favorite gal came over and we started off drinking a couple glasses of quality Malbec. Then after our tops and bottoms fell by the wayside and she gave me a kneeling BJ. We adjourned to the bedroom, where I (we) enjoyed another round of real nice sex. Afterwards we had a bubble bath, and she blew me in the tub.
Now for the interesting part:
I dried off 1st and went into the bedroom and turned on the TV. A full-length YouTube video of some K Pop girly band live concert was playing, and I began watching the girls. Valeria came out of the bathroom, saw what was on the tube, and she began dancing nude along with the Korean girls. She had a big smile on her face, and she easily picked up on the K girls' moves. I laid back in bed and watched her dance nude besides the Korean girls on TV. Then the question entered my mind: who I would rather shag right now, Valeria or one of the Koreans. And my answer to self was Valeria!
I poured us another glass of wine, she came over, took a sip and then joined me in bed. I did not feel like going out, so I ordered room service. We eventually switched channels to something else and watched "TAR" of all movies. Our dinner arrived, we ate, I opened another bottle of vino, we watched a little more of Tar and then got it on again.
I don't know. It all sounds very domestic and homey. If you know what I mean. Like fantasy GFE should be. It was just another night in SP, but I could not help thinking I really dig this little girl and I really like SP.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885895]It is a legitimate question, but I rarely do anal, so I can't say with any degree of accuracy. But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand. I assume you are speaking of covered anal, right? KKK. P.S. The best anal I ever had was in RJ with a Barra Vips girl. Go figure! Man, did she have a sweet back door. I loved anal with her.[/QUOTE]Getting BBFS was "easy peasey japanesy" in the Philippines. Like you say, it's the default setting. But getting anal was a serious problem. So much so that I didn't get any in the PI at all! There is definitely a societal lean away from anal sex in the PI no question about it. I remember one girl in Angeles City. We were getting undressed in the room and I touched her butt (just to be touching it and not thinking about anal). She said, "We won't be doing anything there". I did manage to get some "A-level" in Thailand though. All that said, I think that if one has the time to build up a stable of contacts in the PI (like WestCoast1 for example), then you would have enough girls available to sate that desire if you have it.
But as a tourist who doesn't have the time (and who is not sexually attracted to most Asian women resulting in a tiny applicant pool) I found it to be a pretty insurmountable task for me to get anal in the PI. I was there for a month, but moving around from one city to the next. No matter, we just have to happily accept the best offerings of a place. For the PI, one of those is BBFS! Girls would just ask that I not cum in them, but we would be fucking and they'd get so turned on and excited and carried away that I could have "nutted" inside of any of them that I wanted to. Well, I didn't want to and always pulled out. Sadly, I saw too many kids on the streets of the PI who were the obvious offspring of foreign fathers. There are no "little Canes" growing up in the Philippines (or anywhere else) without a father.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2885823]Hello fellow mongers,
I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove [URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL].
They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.
TY.[/QUOTE]I used SPLove for one outcall and I believe one incall. They were legit however the one that came to me didn't give me pleasant experience. They don't really negotiate prices but it's still a little bit cheaper option to bang an 8/9 than going to scandallo. You should look for feedback on gp guia before scheduling an appointment with them.
I also had an appointment with an escort from [URL]clubmodel.com.br[/URL] who went crazy and kicked me out near the end of the meeting. See my previous posts if you want to know what happened.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885895]... But I do know 1st hand (KKK) that bareback is readily available in Indonesia, Cambodia, Burma, and the PI. No need to ask. So my guess is anal is not a problem with most girls in these countries excluding Thailand.....[/QUOTE]In Medellin, maybe 25% will default to BBFS the first time. About 90% that I have repeated now are BBFS. None of them will do anal but I never asked for it. I think Thailand is easy with anal because there are many trans, how else would you do it? Hehehe.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885895]..., but bareback is not the default here in Brazil. ....[/QUOTE]It depends on where you find them. For most working girls from clubs or brothels in Sao Paulo, that is true, but it could be the opposite if you find girls outside of those places.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2885903]....
I don't know. It all sounds very domestic and homey. If you know what I mean. Like fantasy GFE should be. It was just another night in SP, but I could not help thinking I really dig this little girl and I really like SP.[/QUOTE]That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.
Tonight, the girl arrived at my apartment at 6:30 PM. I usually have them come later during weekdays. She has been bugging to see me for a couple of weeks. She is very pretty, and she is in love with herself so she constantly taking selfie everywhere. The first thing she did when she got in my apartment was went to the balcony and asked me to take pictures of her before I messed up her look. LOL. She stopped at the mirror taking selfie on her way to shower. I stood there watching then she unbuttoned my pants and dropped to her knee to give me a BBBJ. I was lying on my bed waiting. She came out of the shower and go straight to blowjob, then she took the vibrator out of the drawer and used it on herself while giving me the blowjob. After sex, we ordered pizza, and the pizza came in 20 minutes. I also have a bottle Malbec from Argentina which I also had it delivered. It costs about 10 USD in total. The same bottle is about 35 in a high-end steakhouse here. Her cost is about 90 USD and she is already expensive but is still much undervalued. A trio with others will only cost a little more. She is hot and is like a trophy, that is the main reason I see her but I am not into her.
The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2886053].... There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. ....[/QUOTE]The other day I found a 19 yr old who wants to become a famous DJ and she practices all day everyday. I don't even know if she has been with a gringo or not. I guess she is new because she readily accepted a low price. She came and put on a DJ show for me. Her hand job was awesome. I wondered if it has anything to do with her being a DJ. The sex is unremarkable.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2884901]Tried to research, but nothing came up. Any websites? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Baires Girls dot net is best directory for Buenos Aires. Many girls are tied to a possibly affiliated review thread ForoXP.
In my July 2019 trip:
-Girls operate out of their own apartment flats. Where you meet them as where they live eat and sleep at night.
-Some places will have two girls or a mamasan with full lineup to pick out.
-50/50 the girl is local Argentinean or a Paraguayan working illegally on a tourist visa.
-Paraguayans are more open minded, almost every PY girl CIM was offered. Some do anal. Some even off record barebacked.
-30 minutes 1 pop or 60 minutes 2 pops.
-they do watch the clock if you were told 2 pm and you show up at 2:10 pm you get a 50 minute session as she has her next dude coming at 3 pm.
-Pretty much daytime M-F 9 am-11 pm, some work Saturdays. Almost zero options on Sundays (that's a common theme across Latin America).
-key terms to look in their featured services offered in Baires listing "bucal sin globito" =BBBJ "servicio completo" =anal on menu.
-Recently 2023 peeked Baires Girls within days after their election Milei sworn in, noticed many girls already quoting rates in USD instead of ARGP.
-You can also try Tinder / Seeking for pro-am talent.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2886262]Baires Girls dot net is best directory for Buenos Aires. Many girls are tied to a possibly affiliated review thread ForoXP.
In my July 2019 trip:
-Girls operate out of their own apartment flats. Where you meet them as where they live eat and sleep at night.
-Some places will have two girls or a mamasan with full lineup to pick out.
-50/50 the girl is local Argentinean or a Paraguayan working illegally on a tourist visa.
-Paraguayans are more open minded, almost every PY girl CIM was offered. Some do anal. Some even off record barebacked.
-30 minutes 1 pop or 60 minutes 2 pops.
-they do watch the clock if you were told 2 pm and you show up at 2:10 pm you get a 50 minute session as she has her next dude coming at 3 pm.
-Pretty much daytime M-F 9 am-11 pm, some work Saturdays. Almost zero options on Sundays (that's a common theme across Latin America).
-key terms to look in their featured services offered in Baires listing "bucal sin globito" =BBBJ "servicio completo" =anal on menu.
-Recently 2023 peeked Baires Girls within days after their election Milei sworn in, noticed many girls already quoting rates in USD instead of ARGP.
-You can also try Tinder / Seeking for pro-am talent.[/QUOTE]Very useful post thank you. Sticky!
[QUOTE=Nounce;2886053]That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.
The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.[/QUOTE]You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. This statement is not true. This is easily matched in Thailand and matched very cheaply.
I won't post more about it here in the Sao Paulo thread but if someone wants to start this topic in a Thailand thread, I will happily post details.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2885823]Hello fellow mongers,
I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove [URL]https://splove.com.br/[/URL].
They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.
TY.[/QUOTE]Never had what qualifies as a good experience, and most quote north of 600 per hour (plus uber), maybe the poorest price-value ration in SP. Besides, you need to jump through a lot of hoops with most demanding photo, real name or some other info I would not share with a hooker.
I also hate fake titties, so get very slim pickings there once I filter out silicone. By the way, SPLove, Clubmodel, etc, are essentially mirrors of each other.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2886053]That is basically my life here in Medellin. Haha.
Tonight, the girl arrived at my apartment at 6:30 PM. I usually have them come later during weekdays. She has been bugging to see me for a couple of weeks. She is very pretty, and she is in love with herself so she constantly taking selfie everywhere. The first thing she did when she got in my apartment was went to the balcony and asked me to take pictures of her before I messed up her look. LOL. She stopped at the mirror taking selfie on her way to shower. I stood there watching then she unbuttoned my pants and dropped to her knee to give me a BBBJ. I was lying on my bed waiting. She came out of the shower and go straight to blowjob, then she took the vibrator out of the drawer and used it on herself while giving me the blowjob. After sex, we ordered pizza, and the pizza came in 20 minutes. I also have a bottle Malbec from Argentina which I also had it delivered. It costs about 10 USD in total. The same bottle is about 35 in a high-end steakhouse here. Her cost is about 90 USD and she is already expensive but is still much undervalued. A trio with others will only cost a little more. She is hot and is like a trophy, that is the main reason I see her but I am not into her.
The nice things about Medellin is you can get EVERYTIHING delivered if you know what I mean. They can deliver commonly used food items in 10 minutes. There is a huge working girl catalog that they call Facebook here. Haha, It's unmatched anywhere in the world except maybe Thailand. You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. For this lifestyle and custo benefcio, Medellin is close to the top. The only thing is that this is not a turnkey approach like other places that have been mentioned.[/QUOTE]How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.
You could try asking in the Medelllin group.
[QUOTE=Batraaa;2886411]How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;2886286]You can get a private chief or housekeepers easily as well and that is not something Thailand can match. This statement is not true. This is easily matched in Thailand and matched very cheaply.....[/QUOTE]In this context, I am talking about the convenience and easiness for a tourist to get it based on my own observation. This is one example, the manager or the housekeeper of the majority of the places that I have stayed are available as a driver, or as a guide for a cost. They are just there, like the Rappi can deliver in 10 minutes.
It is not the right comparison for me to compare a city to a country. My BBFS comparison is wrong too because it did not compare the same type of establishments. BBFS is difficult in clubs or casas in Medellin too so that is the same as Sao Paulo. I mentioned it because my observation is that allowing BBFS does not mean anal is automatic.
There is one guy recently reported that he got offered to do anal left and right in Medellin. That is his experience but that is completely different from mine. There is another regular poster saying he only does BBFS so his rate is basically 100% but he looks for it and I don't.
I think the "best" for me is the place with people that I can make best connection with that provides lasting memory. Sometimes it only takes one person or one girl in this case.
[QUOTE=Batraaa;2886411]How do I get this catalog of girls in Medellin? Will be in Medellin mid Feb. So could use your help: the.[/QUOTE]Read this post. Add her friends but DO NOT add her.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2875212]Find her on Facebook. ....[/QUOTE]
Which Moema clinicas are owned by the same owner?
I remember reading it in the past, but can't find it.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2886695]Which Moema clinicas are owned by the same owner?
I remember reading it in the past, but can't find it.[/QUOTE]Prime, Enjoy spa, Miruna, Chanes 57,101 Morumbi. He also own a bar / restaurant opposite of Prime.
Just wrapped up another SP pilgrimage. Had a blast as always, some clinica experiences that could be useful to those currently in SP:
Prime:
Visited multiple times, standouts GFEs were Gabriela (high energy performer, great IOP) and Angela (hot Mulata, professional grade BJ and excellent IOP, really loves sex, and speaks English. She would be the one to take home to mama this trip).
Honorable mention was Larinha, tiny and skinny, a bit too business-like initially, but opened up to good GFE later. Can really take a pounding. Learned later she is actually a pornstar (Larinha Small, for those who wish to google her for research purposes). We became buddies on my frequent visits. Only in Brazil where you get to bang pornstars on the cheap.
Unfortunately my worst experience was also at this place from Maya, big titties, pretty face, but terrible delivery, no GFE, and CBJ to boot.
Anavrin:
I think I have banged most of their current lineup. The best was Livia (excellent GFE, also takes CIM).
Isis is very hot, and delivers pretty good GFE but is just not that skilled.
Jessica and Clara were decent.
Luiza was the weakest of the ones I sessioned with, decent IOP, but no GFE.
Kin Center:
Slim pickings when I was there, should have walked away but decided not to waste the trip. Chose Rebecca, weak delivery.
Enjoy:
Young slender hottie called Nicole, excellent GFE and IOP.
Unique:
Havena. Excellent in every way, one of the best this trip.
Lorena. Best deepthroat and overall BJ quality this trip, otherwise average.
Indy:
Bad timing, too many mongers waiting and weak selection, so I left.
Reserva Lux:
First time chose Indyara, bubbly negra with large titties. Very good GFE.
Next time I made the mistake of having the house recommend. Ended up with Harine, mature lady, weak performance.
Important lesson: out of at least 5 house recommendations so far, only 1 ever met or exceeded expectation. It is wise never to trust the house to pick for you.
Club 57:
Ended up with Paola, and realized in the room that I had sessioned with her at another clinica. Decent delivery but I wouldn't repeat unless in a pinch.
Spa Mix (off Rua Pamplona) - not well organized, expensive (relatively), and forgettable experience.
Points to note: 57, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy charge 300 per h; the others charge 240-250/ h. Anavrin charges 270/ h, whereas Spa Mix charges 400/ h.
Happy mongering my friends!
[QUOTE=Kib123;2886828]..........Happy mongering my friends![/QUOTE]Thanks for this good trip report.
[QUOTE=Kib123;2886828]Just wrapped up another SP pilgrimage. Had a blast as always, some clinica experiences that could be useful to those currently in SP:[/QUOTE]Outstanding Post. Good useful information.
Thanks.
We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.
4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.
How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.
Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.
I am planning to make a trip to SP Feb 9 -- Feb 20, and I found most days overlap with SP carnival dates. I am afraid if those clinics and clubs are bad and don't have many girls during the carnival days. Do you have experiences there during carnival time? Is it bad?
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2887593]We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.
4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.
How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.
Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.[/QUOTE]You have been asking this same question all over the Brazil forum. The reason you have not had a response is because we want people like you to utilize the wealth of information ALREADY housed here in the forum. Just use the search function at the top right hand side of the forum. Type in your key words or better yet go to the Curitiba folder in the Brazil section.
[QUOTE=DanielMatt;2888082]I am planning to make a trip to SP Feb 9 -- Feb 20, and I found most days overlap with SP carnival dates. I am afraid if those clinics and clubs are bad and don't have many girls during the carnival days. Do you have experiences there during carnival time? Is it bad?[/QUOTE]I was there for a few days during carnival. Went to a couple of block parties. Then were very small so I doubt it will affect the clinica operations.
[QUOTE=DanielMatt;2888082]I am planning to make a trip to SP Feb 9 -- Feb 20, and I found most days overlap with SP carnival dates. I am afraid if those clinics and clubs are bad and don't have many girls during the carnival days. Do you have experiences there during carnival time? Is it bad?[/QUOTE]DM, Sao Paulo ain't Rio, so while there is some carnival stuff going on somewhere in the big city, you will not be affected by it or even notice it unless you want to seek it out.
I had a very good time at both Scandallo & Bomboa during Carnival 2022. I remember watching the action on a local TV station in Bomboa's restaurant while I was having dinner with a very nice gal. Nobody in the place seemed to care much. It was no big deal. The next night over in Scandallo, I met a stunner who had come up from Curitiba. She was fucking amazing.
So, there is no shortage of girls in either SP club on any night during Carnival. And the clinicas were all open as well during their regular business hours. I would go so far as to say that even if you preferred RJ over SP, which I do not, KKK, SP IMHO is the place to be during Carnival unless you are into and want to participate in the madness.
I am looking for a strip club in the city center. I am taking a Thai lady with me, so cannot go to a prive or a terminal.
I did go once to a Sao Paulo strip club, but it was so long ago that I don't know where it was. IIRC, it was PG-13 and expensive.
My Curitiba experience is before pandemics. It's a wonderful city and maybe the best planned city in Brasil. Only La Plata in Argentina is better planned.
There was a house very close to the Panoramic Tower, and the free tourist bus took me very close there. So it was a double free ride. I'm not sure if there still that panoramic bus ride every hour starting downtown. The house was more like a bar more than a massage parlor or clinica. Maybe it was too early because I hit the place around 5 pm in a very cloudy winter afternoon and there were few girls there. Didn't session.
The place I did go several times in a week was the Casanova club where talent was fine. An outstanding tall native-afro kind brazilian girl at the place I sessioned at least twice. It started to feel like it was IOP because we had lunch the Santo Antonio day, being Santo Antonio like the brazilian cupid. I left Brasil few days later.
Didn't reply before because as always I report with pics and it took time to find them on the archive. So it's not my crazy imagination only sweetening my report.
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2887593]We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.
4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.
How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.
Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.[/QUOTE]
Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6E[/URL]
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2888633]I am looking for a strip club in the city center. I am taking a Thai lady with me, so cannot go to a prive or a terminal.
I did go once to a Sao Paulo strip club, but it was so long ago that I don't know where it was. IIRC, it was PG-13 and expensive.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2888722]Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6E[/URL][/QUOTE]Bomboa is a nice, relaxing club with a variety of girls. I had a friend with me and we chatted with some girls who stopped by the table and sat down with us. The girls were not pushy but they convinced me to do more than talk. I took a couple of the girls upstairs to a large room with a bathroom, shower, and a mirror over the bed. I would consider the girls to be 7's and up. After all was said and done I paid the girls (can't remember the price) and the waiter who asked for a tip while they were giving me the bill.
I am hoping to get back there some day in the future. It was worth the trip.
Personally, I prefer Bomboas over Scandellos in terms of the overall experience. I enjoy the supper club atmosphere of Bomboa over the nightclub vibe of Scandellos. While it's true the overall number of tier 1 girls at Scandellos is much higher than Bomboa, I can usually find what I need at Bomboas. Plus I think the staff at Bomboas is much friendlier.
[QUOTE=HiddenEye;2888722]Bomboa 222 club is an american bar, girls perform strip shows regularly for clients.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SLkuR3az6E[/URL][/QUOTE]I will check it out, lots like a good place for a Thai lady to go.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2888800]I will check it out, lots like a good place for a Thai lady to go.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have occasionally seen some wild stuff in Bomboa with girls thrusting their pussies onto willing customer's faces. KKK. See if any of the Bomboa girls are willing to bisexual 3-way with you and your Thai chick. It is a good sign if they are willing to make out with your girl in the lounge area.
Note: I have done a couple of spontaneous 3-ways in Bomboa, and although they were enjoyable, they were Not full-on bisexual trysts, so I no longer go for that item in Bomboa preferring instead solo 2-fers. To date, I have had only 2 honest to goodness bisexual menage a trois experiences in SP. One was with my favorite Scandallo girl who I currently spend roughly 40% of my time with and the other was with a Bomboa girl who I was seeing semi-regularly outside of the club. In other words, it took me a little time to find the right girls who were genuinely up for it in the right way.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2888752]Personally, I prefer Bomboas over Scandellos in terms of the overall experience. I enjoy the supper club atmosphere of Bomboa over the nightclub vibe of Scandellos. While it's true the overall number of tier 1 girls at Scandellos is much higher than Bomboa, I can usually find what I need at Bomboas. Plus I think the staff at Bomboas is much friendlier.[/QUOTE]I say the more boates the better. That is why I like going to Bahamas and even Cafe Photo occasionally as well. But when I am kind of looking for a Tier 1 girl, I head to Scandallo. I say kind of because many a time a friendly, sexy, tier 2, girl next door type can catch my eye at Scandallo and well that's that. KKK. The thing about Bomboa is they don't have very many Tier 1's if any. They just don't, so when I go to Bamboa I KNOW ahead of time I am going to end up with a friendly, sexy Tier 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. I like it. But me be clear, an evening at Bomboa will cost the same as an evening with a Tier 2 in Scandallo. It is the Scandallo Tier 1's that ask and get the 4-digit numbers.
The atmosphere in both places is very good as far as I am concerned. Scandallo is high class all the way and has a better restaurant and multiple bars including my favorite, the outdoor patio bar. Bomboa is high class too and in its own way and very friendly. I have my favorite Bomboa waiter, who is excellent, and he takes real good care of me, for example he knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when: coke zero when I am alone and gin & tonic when I am with a girl. I have referred Bomboa many times on these pages as the neighborly bar where everybody knows your name. Ha Ha. But they know my name at Scandallo too, Ha Ha Ha, and the wait staff there is very friendly as well. So, I dig both places, but once again if maximum quality and selection is your thing, then Scandallo wins every time.
I like much more new Bomboa's rooms than Scandallo's. I love the mirrors on the ceiling and walls in Bomboa.
Important to see the final bill for every place. I'm sometimes impressed by how much I spend in Bomboa at the very end. Almost as expensive as Scandallo and more expensive than Cafe Photo.
In Scandallo no one will ask a tip unless you give it.
[QUOTE=CatBert55;2888752]Personally, I prefer Bomboas over Scandellos in terms of the overall experience. I enjoy the supper club atmosphere of Bomboa over the nightclub vibe of Scandellos. While it's true the overall number of tier 1 girls at Scandellos is much higher than Bomboa, I can usually find what I need at Bomboas. Plus I think the staff at Bomboas is much friendlier.[/QUOTE]
Arrived today and didn't realise it was a holiday here in Sao Paulo.
Didn't make it to a clinica today but just left Casarao. Never been to Scandallo and don't intend to, personally I won't pay that much for p*ssy and ignorance is bliss but there's more than enough hot girls for my tastes in Casarao for me.
Was at least 10 girls I would have taken in my short time there and ended up with a hot blonde from Sao Paulo. There was hot blondes, brunettes, mixed race girls, few hot black girls and everything in between.
Plan on going to Abbobora tomorrow.
Hello All,
I'm planning my trip for week of 2/11. Like to know see anyone planning to be around same time. Looking for wingman to venture together.
First time to SP. Been to Medellin / Rio before.
Vegaboind in Rio has better guide, list and map for all places. Wanted to know if we have something complied for SP. List of all places and composed google map link will help. Did RTFF but didn't find such list here.
DM me if you want to connect. Thank you in advance.
You and I see eye to eye on all of this. Abbobora and the like are about as high up the food chain I've been without later feeling like a chump when I'm with a girl at a place that costs half as much or less and I leave feeling as fully satisfied as after I leave higher end venues. I would probably see it differently if I didn't mind staying up half the night.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2888959]Arrived today and didn't realise it was a holiday here in Sao Paulo.
Didn't make it to a clinica today but just left Casarao. Never been to Scandallo and don't intend to, personally I won't pay that much for p*ssy and ignorance is bliss but there's more than enough hot girls for my tastes in Casarao for me.
Was at least 10 girls I would have taken in my short time there and ended up with a hot blonde from Sao Paulo. There was hot blondes, brunettes, mixed race girls, few hot black girls and everything in between.
Plan on going to Abbobora tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.
Had a session with Jennifer in Abbobora yesterday. It was my first disappointing session there tbh, wasn't bad but not up to their high standards.
Later on, I took a mulatta called Debra from Casarao for short time. She's caramel coloured, really cute face and amazing body (It was a welcome surprise that her tits and ass were natural, god bless Brazil).
Really good session for 300 reals.
One of the things I don't understand about Brazil is that despite the fitness scene seeming to be huge here and there being loads of gyms, huge health food sections in supermarkets and loads of health food stores etc, pretty much everyone seems to smoke cigarettes.
The hour of the night you want to close the deal is a determining factor.
If you negotiate an overnite at 10 pm to a 8+ girl she will ask for the rates you mention. It will be different if the negotiation happens at 3-4 am, and even more different if it was a slow night (no client).
I've got fantastic offers, I mean it, closing deals at the very end of the night, at all high end clubs. No matter which club, girls will be liberated at 3 am - 3:30 am.
Patience pays off.
[QUOTE=Azurey;2889290]Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Azurey;2889290]Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.[/QUOTE]Another tip is to talk to multiple girls as the night progresses. The others will see you talking to other girls and might lower their price as the evening continues.
Went to Casarao again last night and had a good session with a thicc brunette called Roberta. Thicc but without any excess fat, God bless the Brasileira bodies.
If anyone has any solid contacts for party favours, please inbox me. Usually ask the ladies, which usually works, but struck out so far.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2889776]Another tip is to talk to multiple girls as the night progresses. The others will see you talking to other girls and might lower their price as the evening continues.[/QUOTE]One's vibe changes after getting your dick wet with the 1st girl of the night. You are more confident and surer of yourself, less horny (needy), your attitude is more take it or leave it baby; ie the big brain takes over and I swear to God the girls can smell the difference. KKK. The stunner who earlier might have insisted on 2000 and gone no lower is now willing to go upstairs with you for 1000 or less. This is one of the main reasons I am really into the possibilities of 2-fers and sticking around Scandallo. It is almost like after my 1st girl, the evening is just begun.
Hello Amigos. I am thinking to explore out skirt of Sao Paulo. Like within 3 hours of one way drive time.
Has any one had a good experience exploring into small cities, some time you may get lucky to have semi pro or novia.
Is there a good option in Sorocaba or in Campinas? As far as clinicas and Photoacomphate site.
Ribeirao Preto seems very far.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2889531]
One of the things I don't understand about Brazil is that despite the fitness scene seeming to be huge here and there being loads of gyms, huge health food sections in supermarkets and loads of health food stores etc, pretty much everyone seems to smoke cigarettes.[/QUOTE]Smoking actually helps with food cravings and maintaining weight.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2889866]Hello Amigos. I am thinking to explore out skirt of Sao Paulo. Like within 3 hours of one way drive time.
Has any one had a good experience exploring into small cities, some time you may get lucky to have semi pro or novia.
Is there a good option in Sorocaba or in Campinas? As far as clinicas and Photoacomphate site.
Ribeirao Preto seems very far.[/QUOTE]Check out the Campinas thread. I went to Fazendinha there years ago at night and had a great time. I recently talked to a board member who was there for the daytime poolside bikini and topless party and he recommended. I am thinking of a pilgrimage myself. About 1. 5 hours from SP.
[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2888633]I am looking for a strip club in the city center. I am taking a Thai lady with me, so cannot go to a prive or a terminal.
I did go once to a Sao Paulo strip club, but it was so long ago that I don't know where it was. IIRC, it was PG-13 and expensive.[/QUOTE]Scandollas is a nice place to go.
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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2888847]I say the more boates the better. That is why I like going to Bahamas and even Cafe Photo occasionally as well. But when I am kind of looking for a Tier 1 girl, I head to Scandallo. I say kind of because many a time a friendly, sexy, tier 2, girl next door type can catch my eye at Scandallo and well that's that. KKK. The thing about Bomboa is they don't have very many Tier 1's if any. They just don't, so when I go to Bamboa I KNOW ahead of time I am going to end up with a friendly, sexy Tier 2 and there is nothing wrong with that. I like it. But me be clear, an evening at Bomboa will cost the same as an evening with a Tier 2 in Scandallo. It is the Scandallo Tier 1's that ask and get the 4-digit numbers.
The atmosphere in both places is very good as far as I am concerned. Scandallo is high class all the way and has a better restaurant and multiple bars including my favorite, the outdoor patio bar. Bomboa is high class too and in its own way and very friendly. I have my favorite Bomboa waiter, who is excellent, and he takes real good care of me, for example he knows where I like to sit and what I like to drink and when: coke zero when I am alone and gin & tonic when I am with a girl. I have referred Bomboa many times on these pages as the neighborly bar where everybody knows your name. Ha Ha. But they know my name at Scandallo too, Ha Ha Ha, and the wait staff there is very friendly as well. So, I dig both places, but once again if maximum quality and selection is your thing, then Scandallo wins every time.[/QUOTE]Yes, I like both places also. The staff is very friendly at both spots. Scandolla is like a big club and Bomboa has a more lounge vibe.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2889838]One's vibe changes after getting your dick wet with the 1st girl of the night. You are more confident and surer of yourself, less horny (needy), your attitude is more take it or leave it baby; ie the big brain takes over and I swear to God the girls can smell the difference. KKK. The stunner who earlier might have insisted on 2000 and gone no lower is now willing to go upstairs with you for 1000 or less. This is one of the main reasons I am really into the possibilities of 2-fers and sticking around Scandallo. It is almost like after my 1st girl, the evening is just begun.[/QUOTE]Very true. I think this time I am going to try to get it out of my system in Rio the night before, or at the hotel in SP in the afternoon before heading to Scandello on Thursday evening.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2890009]Very true. I think this time I am going to try to get it out of my system in Rio the night before, or at the hotel in SP in the afternoon before heading to Scandello on Thursday evening.[/QUOTE]Another worthwhile approach to get into the right vibe is to take in a clinica in the afternoon, and hit Scandallo or different boate in the evening.
Abbaboro is my favorite regular SP clinica (360 br per session with 200 for the girl /160 for the house on CC), but lately I have been exploring the higher end boutique clinicas like the Palms, Sharon and Taj Mahal.
The Palms is easily my favorite clinica in this latter category. They have boate quality girls and luxurious, spa like rooms. There is no lineup, unfortunately, so customers must make their selection from highly photoshopped pics. But despite this handicap, I have met some very attractive, boate quality girls at this particular casa and I recommend it.
The rate at the Palms is high (750 br with 350 br to the girl and 400 to the house). Ouch. It is the highest rate of all SP clinicas. I think Sharon is 650 br and the Taj is about the same or maybe a little less. The best thing to do is contact the clinica about 90 minutes before you think you might want to go (whatsapp) and they will send you pics of their available girls from which you can make an appointment if you want. Up to you.
Good hunting,
A. H.
Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?
[QUOTE=Dollars;2888229]You have been asking this same question all over the Brazil forum. The reason you have not had a response is because we want people like you to utilize the wealth of information ALREADY housed here in the forum. Just use the search function at the top right hand side of the forum. Type in your key words or better yet go to the Curitiba folder in the Brazil section.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your response yet of no help to the information I seeked. I have used this site for years together and ofcourse, I have read the website. The Curitiba folder / site is very quiet and dated information. Hence seeking help. Instead of helping you just gave a very condescending reply which was useless to me. I am sorry to say that. If you knew what to do in Curitiba or places of interest, share it. If you don't. Just go to the next post instead of heavy-handed advise. What made you think I didn't read the folder. I just didn't find any guidance after spending hours on it already and hence the post. My assumption is. Posting and asking help is "one" of the reasons this forum exists.
I usually set my VPN to my home country (Colombia) and open the web page or application for ESPN or whatever other provider is showing what I want to see. There are sports bars around town. If football matches are happening during UFC you might have a hard time getting the TVs changed to show it.
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2890104]Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?[/QUOTE]
If you want to see it in a club, any Scandallo or Bomboa have area for that and big LCDs. Bomboa second floor I believe is better this time because it's an american bar. Scandallo restaurant is maybe too classy for UFC.
If you want to enjoy with locals and civilians, the hundred+ bars in Vila Madalena is the place. There is a metro station a few blocks from there.
Any Brazilian star in the fight list?
[QUOTE=SoberHans69;2890104]Can anyone recommend anywhere to watch the UFC on Saturday?[/QUOTE]
Need some advice. I am an experienced SP guy and like high end but haven't done the scene before 11 pm much. So I am really a nighttime guy. Scandallo. Casarao. Bomboa. Of the clinicas I tried I like Abobora best.
But this upcoming trip I may explore daytime a bit also at the very least on my last day when I have to leave for GRU at 7 PM.
I suppose the Palms or Sharon might be a good option? Should I try Scandallo that early like go early afternoon and be ready to wrap up by 630? Other ideas? I did book my room to include the night of my flight so I could always find a girl a day or two before and do her again on flight day at my hotel. So I have some thoughts. But I’d love to hear ur thoughts. Thx.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2836683]Went to Scandello on a Monday afternoon around 2 pm as I had to check out of the hotel and my flight was at 10:30 PM to come back home.
I took my suitcase and my backpack with me to Scandello. Before entry they thoroughly check your bags. Entry was 300 all consumable, and they have a space to store your luggage. It is very secure and you can leave all your valuables with them. They even gave me a Brazilian charging plug my iPhone cable so I could charge it inside the club.
Upon entry the restaurant, small patio and the bar is open. Everything else is closed. There were about 15 to 20 girls walking around and they ranged from 6. [/QUOTE]
Hey Steve9696 . My report from an afternoon at Scandello.
Thanks Knowledge and HiddenEye, appreciate the replies.
Co main event has Mocaino in it who is Brazilian. Not a big name but really fun fighter to watch, he's fighting Dober who is very exciting too.
Will probably head over to Vila Madalena to try and watch it.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2890335]Hey Steve9696 . My report from an afternoon at Scandello.[/QUOTE]Super helpful as always A. Luv this forum.
Took a black stunner from Casarao last night who I've had my eye on past few nights. Turns out she was born in Nigeria but moved to Brazil.
300 for ST and great performance.
Today I took Pietra from 57 Friends and had a good 30 minute session for 220.
Nowhere comes close to Brazil in terms of mongering IMO.
Does 57 friends and brooklin offer florista?
I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there. This is a super long post. Sorry about that.
For context, I am a middle-aged American gringo. I have never been to Brazil and only have basic polite phrases in Portuguese, but can manage in French / Spanish.
I've hobbied in the US, UK, Germany, France, Poland, and Japan. I appreciate the various cultures of service. I hate the American style AMP, really like Artemis FKK, and also dug the BJ-only bars I found in Tokyo.
It sounds like the two main types of hobbying in Brazil are Clinicas and Clubs. I prefer an incall situation, so that's great for me.
As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions:
Where to stay?
I assume the balance of my adventures will be 60/40 clinicas / clubs due to cost. Is there an neighborhood or area that makes sense to stay to reduce the Uber cost?
Dress Code?
I am pretty casual. I won't be bringing dress clothes. I assume that's not a problem in the clinicas, but maybe I will feel out of place in clubs?
Massage?
Honestly, I would almost always prefer a great massage + happy ending over a mediocre full service session. It sounds to me like the culture in Brazil emphasizes the "Illusion of Passion" so maybe full service will be the thing, but I really don't want to go somewhere expecting a good massage only to get a US-style "rub-and-tug". Are there places that are better suited for a real massage+?
Fake asses.
I. am not into this, but from the few escort pages I have looked at. There seem to be a LOT of surgically enhanced asses. Can someone explain the appeal?
Pricing.
So, it sounds like the clubs charge a cover charge that is inclusive of a few drinks. But while 300 brl seems fine. Do they tell you how much things cost, or do you just have to wing it and hope you are covered or have enough remaining cash when you leave? As for play pricing. It sounds like I should expect club girls to quote me as high as 2500 brl, but even in the high end places, the most I should pay is 1000 brl, and then only for a top tier girl. I am fine saying no to girls. I am so used to the US strip club hustle. What is standard pricing at clinicas?
Duration?
At the clubs, is it per pop or by time? Most scenes I have explored seem to be very focused on rapid turnover (which I get as a business model), but some places in Japan and the UK have a more time-focused approach which means multiple pops are available and also you don't feel like your partner is rushing you. I like a good long BJ / HJ, and hate it when a girl just starts cranking away for the pop instead of focusing on the tease / build up.
Post-op Trans?
I have never been somewhere where this is a thing, but it seems to be mentioned enough in Brazil discussions that I feel like I should be better educated. Do Clinicas / clubs employ post-op providers identifying as female without disclosing it? Or is that something that people seek out? No judgement on my part, but I would rather know and not feel duped or put in an awkward spot.
Any other advice is much appreciated. I plan on taking out cash in-country for the best exchange rate. I am a big guy, but would rather avoid conflict, so if there are areas to avoid or classic scams (like the touts in Tokyo who try to lure you into places) that would be great to know too.
Thanks to everyone for this great community!
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2890997]Does 57 friends and brooklin offer florista?[/QUOTE]57 yes, Brooklyn probably not but you can look at GPG to find out.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891273]I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there.
As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions
[/QUOTE]The Moema area is closest to the Clinicas discussed here. SP dress is somewhat like a large US city, locals don't wear shorts and sandals too much. City jeans / no logo T works in Clinicas and Boates. There are low, medium, and high end Clinicas discussed here, all with standardized pricing, ranging from $R150 or so for the low, $R300 for the mid $R800 for the high. The high ones are more likely to start with an OK massage. There are more natural options at all levels of Clinica, you just have to spidy sense it from a quick presentation or set of tablet photos. In almost all cases charge is by time.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2891439]The Moema area is closest to the Clinicas discussed here. SP dress is somewhat like a large US city, locals don't wear shorts and sandals too much. City jeans / no logo T works in Clinicas and Boates. There are low, medium, and high end Clinicas discussed here, all with standardized pricing, ranging from $R150 or so for the low, $R300 for the mid $R800 for the high. The high ones are more likely to start with an OK massage. There are more natural options at all levels of Clinica, you just have to spidy sense it from a quick presentation or set of tablet photos. In almost all cases charge is by time.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I have to disagree on the shorts part. I'm here now and loads of locals are wearing shorts (below middle aged people). That awful fashion of shorts and socks pulled up has made its way over here now.
I cut this from a picture that I took very recently. I think it depends on weather.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2891462]I cut this from a picture that I took very recently. I think it depends on weather.[/QUOTE]Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2891483]Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I'm not really a shorts-wearing kind of guy. More jeans and a polo. But if I am going to London or Paris, I know I need to up the game a little with a blazer / overcoat. That's mostly what I was hoping to clarify.
As for the boates. I see that they offer dinners / food. There are strip clubs in the US that also offer food, and it's legitimately one of the grossest things I can think of. Similarly, Artemis in Berlin technically has food as part of your entry fee, but it's. Not good. Do people actually eat at Boates, and is the quality decent / prices ok. Or is it more of a "we technically provide these things so that we are not a brothel" kind of thing? I'm still trying to understand the layout. Particularly as I will be going solo. Is it weird / expensive / advisable to show up at a Boate to have dinner? I'd assume it might be a little less pressure from girls to session with them if you have a plate of food in front of you.
Is there a resource for finding clinicas? I saw a map listed on another forum, but it was behind a paywall and it wasn't clear how current it would be. I have the names of a few gathered from this forum (Palms, Abobora, etc.)
I'll be there for seven days, so plenty of time to explore.
[QUOTE=Nebulousity;2891483]Sorry I should have clarified that I meant: in the Clinicas and Boates, I don't see locals wearing shorts and sandals too much, so from a visitor dress code perspective, jeans and T is probably a bit less of an out of place look.[/QUOTE]I am not trying to debate this. It's to share one's perspective and the members should take all posts into account to get a better picture.
I saw many locals wearing shorts in Tangara. I think I have only been to Tangara once last year and once this year. I wear shorts all the time. The only place that I don't wear shorts is Scandallo but I have seen local Asians wearing shorts and sandals there.
I'll be in Sao Paulo Feb 20-24. Send me a pm and we can meet at one of the boates.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891273]I am heading to SP mid February (after Carnival) and have been doing a lot of reading here on the various entertainment I can explore while there. This is a super long post. Sorry about that.
For context, I am a middle-aged American gringo. I have never been to Brazil and only have basic polite phrases in Portuguese, but can manage in French / Spanish.
I've hobbied in the US, UK, Germany, France, Poland, and Japan. I appreciate the various cultures of service. I hate the American style AMP, really like Artemis FKK, and also dug the BJ-only bars I found in Tokyo.
It sounds like the two main types of hobbying in Brazil are Clinicas and Clubs. I prefer an incall situation, so that's great for me.
As I plan my trip, I have a couple of questions:
Where to stay?
I assume the balance of my adventures will be 60/40 clinicas / clubs due to cost. Is there an neighborhood or area that makes sense to stay to reduce the Uber cost?
Dress Code?
I am pretty casual. I won't be bringing dress clothes. I assume that's not a problem in the clinicas, but maybe I will feel out of place in clubs?
Massage?
Honestly, I would almost always prefer a great massage + happy ending over a mediocre full service session. It sounds to me like the culture in Brazil emphasizes the "Illusion of Passion" so maybe full service will be the thing, but I really don't want to go somewhere expecting a good massage only to get a US-style "rub-and-tug". Are there places that are better suited for a real massage+?
Fake asses.
I. am not into this, but from the few escort pages I have looked at. There seem to be a LOT of surgically enhanced asses. Can someone explain the appeal?
Pricing.
So, it sounds like the clubs charge a cover charge that is inclusive of a few drinks. But while 300 brl seems fine. Do they tell you how much things cost, or do you just have to wing it and hope you are covered or have enough remaining cash when you leave? As for play pricing. It sounds like I should expect club girls to quote me as high as 2500 brl, but even in the high end places, the most I should pay is 1000 brl, and then only for a top tier girl. I am fine saying no to girls. I am so used to the US strip club hustle. What is standard pricing at clinicas?
Duration?
At the clubs, is it per pop or by time? Most scenes I have explored seem to be very focused on rapid turnover (which I get as a business model), but some places in Japan and the UK have a more time-focused approach which means multiple pops are available and also you don't feel like your partner is rushing you. I like a good long BJ / HJ, and hate it when a girl just starts cranking away for the pop instead of focusing on the tease / build up.
Post-op Trans?
I have never been somewhere where this is a thing, but it seems to be mentioned enough in Brazil discussions that I feel like I should be better educated. Do Clinicas / clubs employ post-op providers identifying as female without disclosing it? Or is that something that people seek out? No judgement on my part, but I would rather know and not feel duped or put in an awkward spot.
Any other advice is much appreciated. I plan on taking out cash in-country for the best exchange rate. I am a big guy, but would rather avoid conflict, so if there are areas to avoid or classic scams (like the touts in Tokyo who try to lure you into places) that would be great to know too.
Thanks to everyone for this great community![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891501]Do people actually eat at Boates, and is the quality decent / prices ok.
I'll be there for seven days, so plenty of time to explore.
Is there a resource for finding clinicas? I saw a map listed on another forum, but it was behind a paywall and it wasn't clear how current it would be. I have the names of a few gathered from this forum (Palms, Abobora, etc.)
[/QUOTE]1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.
2) There are many reports on this forum about Boate restaurants. I know because I have written a few of them.
3 a) I am tired of newbie trial ballon comparisons between Boates they know nothing about and (pick one) USA strip clubs, German FKK's, or any other fuck palace somewhere else. This is Brazil. I guarantee you things here are not like the USA or Germany or Thailand, or Mexico. So stop making comparisons to make yourself feel comfortable. Just jump into the pool headfirst. The water is fine.
3 b) Yes; explore, explore, explore SP. That is the only way to find out what you are really looking for and what you like. The search is part of the fun. I am still searching and looking and I just wrapped up approximately 250 days cumulatively speaking in Brazil spread over 6 trips. I envy you your first afternoon roaming around Moema and your first couple of nights in the Boates. Remember this: all the plans you may have made prior to arrival will go out the window after your first afternoon and your first night on the town. 7 nights or whatever the duration of your 1st trip will only whet your appetite for more adventures to come.
4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.
[QUOTE=Azurey;2889290]Long time forum member but this is my first post. Finally made my time to Sao Paulo. Last night I went to Scandallo, absolutely the best place I have ever been to. I understand most of the girls would settle for 1000 r for going upstairs. What about the overnight pricing? I asked a few and get quoted 3 k - 4 k real, is this normal? I did bargaining with one girl I really liked but she would not drop her price below 2800, I remember there was one forum member mentioned somewhere 2 k - 2. 5 k for overtnight. Just want to have some feedback.[/QUOTE]This is subjective, probably due to the date being overnight, but why would you goto a foreign country and pay what's equivalent to $300, or even consider $600 USD for one girl?
For the women you were referring to would you honestly say they're not 9's, but 10's and would service you uncovered with GFE?
Considering traveling here. Compared to the rates of 20 to 80 USD per girl in Colombia, what's the average here, or max to consider those girls who think theyre high end?
[QUOTE=Robotron;2891717]This is subjective, probably due to the date being overnight, but why would you goto a foreign country and pay what's equivalent to $300, or even consider $600 USD for one girl?
For the women you were referring to would you honestly say they're not 9's, but 10's and would service you uncovered with GFE?
Considering traveling here. Compared to the rates of 20 to 80 USD per girl in Colombia, what's the average here, or max to consider those girls who think theyre high end?[/QUOTE]You are making the wrong comparison. You can get cheaper price too, just not at Scandallo. You can't find anything remotely close to Scandallo in Colombia. The more expensive places in Colombia actually have reduced service. You maybe wasting money there even if it is cheaper.
Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2891592]1) I envy you your first afternoon roaming around Moema and your first couple of nights in the Boates. Remember this: all the plans you may have made prior to arrival will go out the window after your first afternoon and your first night on the town. 7 nights or whatever the duration of your 1st trip will only whet your appetite for more adventures to come.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the feedback and advice and hear the criticism. To be fair though, I am working my way through the forum. Somewhere between the three pages of cell-phone provider chat and the conversations about Thailand, I just figured I'd write down some questions.
I actually came to the same conclusion and started putting together my own Google Map! It's slow going, but I'm getting a picture of the area now.
I only listed the places I've been to give context that I'm not a full on noob, just new to Brazil. I very much hope that the experiences in Brazil are as different and as varied as I've been able to experience in other places, and come to the forums here to avoid the same-old traps / bad experiences that are everywhere and typically target gringo tourists. I've tried to wing it some places, only to end up getting hit up for tips by a geriatric mamasan. I'll see if I can find your restaurant reviews!
At the moment, I'm thinking of aiming for visits to Abbobora, Prime and Palms, and then depending on my work dinners, a visit to Scandallo for certain, and possibly either Casarao or Bomboa.
Beyond that, I'm mostly going to either be at work, or wandering the Feria Livres in pursuit of Coxhinas.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891825]I appreciate the feedback and advice and hear the criticism. To be fair though, I am working my way through the forum. Somewhere between the three pages of cell-phone provider chat and the conversations about Thailand, I just figured I'd write down some questions.
I actually came to the same conclusion and started putting together my own Google Map! It's slow going, but I'm getting a picture of the area now.
I only listed the places I've been to give context that I'm not a full on noob, just new to Brazil. I very much hope that the experiences in Brazil are as different and as varied as I've been able to experience in other places, and come to the forums here to avoid the same-old traps / bad experiences that are everywhere and typically target gringo tourists. I've tried to wing it some places, only to end up getting hit up for tips by a geriatric mamasan. I'll see if I can find your restaurant reviews!
At the moment, I'm thinking of aiming for visits to Abbobora, Prime and Palms, and then depending on my work dinners, a visit to Scandallo for certain, and possibly either Casarao or Bomboa.
Beyond that, I'm mostly going to either be at work, or wandering the Feria Livres in pursuit of Coxhinas.[/QUOTE]Your plan seems on point to me. Might throw Cafe Photo in the mix tho I have not been. They have on-site rooms now.
Just know that the action starts around 11 so it shouldn't interfere with work dinner. Just power thru till 4 or 5 AM. Catch a couple hours. Rinse repeat!
P.S. Casarao and Bomboa are both worthy but totally different. Casarao is a packed narrow bar with two floors. Pretty mixed clientele TBH because it's reasonably priced. Bomboa is like a high end supper club. Both good in different ways.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2891873]
Just know that the action starts around 11 so it shouldn't interfere with work dinner. Just power thru till 4 or 5 AM. [/QUOTE]Thanks! 11 pm, eh? I mean, I can swing it, I suppose. I'm not usually a super late-night guy, but on work trips, I am often out until 2 or 3, plus I will have the time zone difference working in my favor. Is that just the boates? I was kind of thinking I'd hit up clinicas in the day-time and then aim for the higher-end experience after dinner.
Cafe Photo is on the "I need to learn more" list.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891825]I appreciate the feedback and advice and hear the criticism. To be fair though, I am working my way through the forum. Somewhere between the three pages of cell-phone provider chat and the conversations about Thailand, I just figured I'd write down some questions.
I actually came to the same conclusion and started putting together my own Google Map! It's slow going, but I'm getting a picture of the area now.
At the moment, I'm thinking of aiming for visits to Abbobora, Prime and Palms, and then depending on my work dinners, a visit to Scandallo for certain, and possibly either Casarao or Bomboa. [/QUOTE]I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK.
There are many outstanding 5-star Steak and Japanese Sushi restaurants in SP. The restaurants in Scandallo and Bomboa cannot match these culinary gems, but the food in these 2 boates is very good nonetheless and you should not hesitate in trying them out especially if you decide to hang around after your 1st session and possibly go a 2nd round with a different girl afterwards.
Your tentative plan sounds like a good starting point, but like I said, all plans go out the window once a trip begins in earnest.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2891873] Might throw Cafe Photo in the mix tho I have not been. They have on-site rooms now.
P.S. Casarao and Bomboa are both worthy but totally different. Casarao is a packed narrow bar with two floors. Pretty mixed clientele TBH because it's reasonably priced. Bomboa is like a high end supper club. Both good in different ways. [/QUOTE]Hey Steve, all the SP Boates have unique ambiences and are very different from one another. Casarao, in particular, is the most un-boate like boate in SP. It operates more like a fast track pick up bar. There is no point in hanging around there after you have found a girl. Just take her to your bed and have fun. I like it occasionally because it is a raw slice of Sao Paulo FL and very inexpensive.
Scandallo, on the other hand, is the high-end class joint of the city with the most honest to goodness lookers and the sexiest tier 2 girl next door types. I love it and I like hanging out there all night. I know you do too. KKK. Bomboa is my 2nd favorite boate and you are absolutely right; it feels like a high-end supper club with friendly and experienced tier 2 type girls (very few tier 1's however) and the wait staff is exemplary.
But you can call me crazy if you want, but I am not a big fan of Cafe Photo. Although they do have a few pretty girls, their initial asking price is higher than comparable quality girls in Scandallo and I do not like the "no approach the customer" rules in this club. Nearby Bahamas is a lot more fun IMHO although on average their girls might not be quite as attractive, they are certainly cheaper. KKK.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891825].. am working my way through the forum...[/QUOTE]I think you will get answer more quickly if your questions are more focused. The food, trans and stuff like that are not that important, and you can find out easily anyway.
For Scandello, and other high end boates, you can get the menu to check out the price. If you are not sure, ask the bartender. It is common in Brazil for a place to give you card upon entry to keep a tab on your purchases. You pay upon exit and they will give you a receipt or the card back so you can use them to leave the checked exited gate / door.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2891814]Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.[/QUOTE]I don't look for it so I never ask. The default will be covered. This is something between you and the girl. I doubt anyone can give you a definitive answer. Outside of that, BBFS is more often the default and I never have to ask.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2891923]I don't look for it so I never ask. The default will be covered. This is something between you and the girl. I doubt anyone can give you a definitive answer. Outside of that, BBFS is more often the default and I never have to ask.[/QUOTE]Didn't you mean BBBJ?
[QUOTE=Nounce;2891921]I think you will get answer more quickly if your questions are more focused. The food, trans and stuff like that are not that important, and you can find out easily anyway.
For Scandello, and other high end boates, you can get the menu to check out the price. If you are not sure, ask the bartender. It is common in Brazil for a place to give you card upon entry to keep a tab on your purchases. You pay upon exit and they will give you a receipt or the card back so you can use them to leave the checked exited gate / door.[/QUOTE]Be prepared for Scandallo to be astoundingly expensive. And totally worth it. Dont go there with a mind to save a buck. You go there to be king the world and that doesn't come cheap.
One thing to know tho is the alcohol and mixer are charged separately. They do this in Moscow also. So maybe Jack is $15 and a coke $10. So a Jack and Coke is $25 (actually a bit more as I recall). So if you do want to save a little drink your alcohol straight up. But again. Don't go there if a few hundred dollars is a lot of money.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2891927]Didn't you mean BBBJ?[/QUOTE]BBFS, based on the observation that I never asked for it. I mean if the girl is not from clubs, clinicas or online escorts, then it is different.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2891784] You can't find anything remotely close to Scandallo in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Nothing comes close.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2891814]Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.[/QUOTE]I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.
[QUOTE=Combo;2891940]Agreed. Nothing comes close.[/QUOTE]What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?
[QUOTE=MRusa007;2887593]We are making a trip to in the next few months and our goal is to venture to Curitiba. Have no clue other than (Sense) and the Curitiba page is dead for ages hence posting here.
4 days Friday thru Monday = Curitiba, Monday to Thursday = Rio, then Friday to Monday = SP. 10 day trip.
How can we make Curitiba a success. Promise to come back and give a detailed Trip report.
Any help and guidance? We prefer clubs like Sense, but also smaller places that has 5-8 garotas, or massage clubs, or independents.[/QUOTE]DM me if you have not gone yet. I am here.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2891873]Just know that the action starts around 11 so it shouldn't interfere with work dinner. Just power thru till 4 or 5 AM. Catch a couple hours. Rinse repeat!
[/QUOTE]I usually arrive at a Boate around 9:30. While I have seen a few superstars just arriving at Scandallo between 10:30 and 11, most of the girls are there by 10. They have to be in order to gain free admission. The courtyard bar and entertainment bar are usually open by 9 except on very slow nights.
Casarao is the late night boate. There is no point in going there before 11:30. I have trouble waiting that long to start my night, thus most of the time, I don't go there, but occasionally I head over there after a 1st night's tryst in Bomboa. I have never gone there after a 1st night's session in Scandallo, however, KKK. There are too many hotties wandering around Scandallo to allow me to leave until I am finished for the evening.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2891883]Thanks! 11 pm, eh? I mean, I can swing it, I suppose. I'm not usually a super late-night guy, but on work trips, I am often out until 2 or 3, plus I will have the time zone difference working in my favor. Is that just the boates? I was kind of thinking I'd hit up clinicas in the day-time and then aim for the higher-end experience after dinner.
Cafe Photo is on the "I need to learn more" list.[/QUOTE]You have to see it yourself and decide on your own. Or you need to identify with the poster that matches your style.
Scandallo opens at noon with only cafeteria and the bar and the small outdoor patio. There are fewer girls. There is a shift change round 8 or 9 PM. Then the club and the outdoor area will open. The live music in the club area starts around 11 PM for about an hour, then an hour break, then another hour of live music. This is not exact but this gives you an idea of the flow.
I go when I can and don't wait until a specific time. 11 is peak hour and can be packed. Sometimes you can't even find a seat in the restaurant.
Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2891973]What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?[/QUOTE]You are generalizing the worst case. It is more likely to happen at La Isla in Medellin, Scandallo is the opposite. It can easily be avoided. You can't be too shy. I posted about it many times.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2891962]I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.[/QUOTE]I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...
A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).
This is definitely not Asia or Africa.
[QUOTE=XXL;2892093]I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...
A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).
This is definitely not Asia or Africa.[/QUOTE]Well aware this is the SP forum but sometimes worldwide insights are welcome. I agree BBBJ and CFS is the norm for me in Brazil. And works for me. If you want bareback apparently the place to go is Jakarta. Shithole city but apparently lovely and inexpensive ladies and a ton of bareback and CIP if that is your thing. Very active forum.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2891973]What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?[/QUOTE]Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.
While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
Note that it’s interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2891895]I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK. [/QUOTE]Not at all, man! You also gave good advice while slapping my wrist, all good! It's your country / city. If anything, it helps me know how to approach it all. Just like knowing how to respectfully approach hobbying in Japan makes all the difference in whether you have a good soapy time or get treated like an "Ugly-American".
I don't mind throwing down some money if it's all in pursuit of a unique experience, and from all accounts, Scandello seems to be just that. I'll have to see what dinners cost when I get there, but at least I know going in that it's not going to be the trash "buffet" that I was worried about. I do like to hang out after a session, if it doesn't feel weird. Sometimes, soloing makes you stand out, and sometimes it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out. Like you say, I'll only know once I'm there.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892089]Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.[/QUOTE]Appreciate both of your insights into Casarao. Sometimes that kind of "immediate action" is fun. I didn't realize that there was a "dry entry" option. I wonder if that will even be offered to a non-Portuguese speaking gringo?
At the end of the day, I think I have a pretty decent idea now of the larger landscape.
Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?
Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?
Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.
Would you experts shed some light into this.
Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.
Any body used Lotus Lounge before?
TY in advance.
[QUOTE=XXL;2892093]I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ... [/QUOTE]Valeria, my favorite Scandallo girl, told me it was fear of pregnancy that was her primary hindering block to our having bareback sex. Who fuck knows if this is true or not, KKK, I don't even try follow the logic in the mind of a working girl, but after our 10th or 12th time together, we barebacked.
SP ain't Makati, Phnom, Yangon, or CGK that's for sure, but I still like it here.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2891592]1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.
4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.[/QUOTE]Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. Most of the information I'm looking for I have found but I still have about 100 pages left until I catch up to the current times! My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.
My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate?
My plan is to visit some of the places mentioned on here and dive right in! For me, there's always a certain amount of uncertainty when mongering to new destinations but I'm in love with Brazilian women and I need to check this place out!
[QUOTE=Robotron;2891973]What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?[/QUOTE]There's no need to spend anywhere close to that money. Also BBBJs are the norm in Brasil, moreso than in Colombia (though you're always best confirming with the chick beforehand). With regard to BBFS, I do not look for it, regardless of the country. The guy you refer to sounds like a sucker.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2892149]...
Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?[/QUOTE]That is not something you need to worry about. There is no extra cost. The only thing that you really have to look out for near Casarao is your phone, keep your distance away from people on bicycle.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2892184]...
Any body used Lotus Lounge before?
...[/QUOTE]That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.
[QUOTE=Septimius;2892202]...My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT...[/QUOTE]That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.
I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.
[QUOTE=XXL;2892093]I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing.
This is definitely not Asia or Africa.[/QUOTE]This is the main reason why I will stick to Colombia instead of Brazil as almost all chicas will do bareback after two sessions.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892239]That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.
I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.[/QUOTE]There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2892184]Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?
Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.
Would you experts shed some light into this.
Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.
Any body used Lotus Lounge before?
TY in advance.[/QUOTE]Lotus is high end clinics. Search the forum for "high end clinicas" and you find many SP posts describing these. There many cost levels in this mega city and quite a few establishment that would rival the costs in the USA. Many rich Brazilians willing these prices and a lot more. Search for pink sheet girls.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892237]That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.[/QUOTE]The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.
But I like both types of clinicas and the boates. That is the choice part of the equation. Here is a rough breakdown of the situation: Abboboro, my favorite regular place is 360 BR on the credit card of which the girl gets 200 BR. I believe it is the most expensive of the regular clinicas. I like it because I can usually find a girl that looks doable to very pretty and the sex is ALWAYS real damn good. I have had some wild times in Abboboro and Prime that's for sure.
The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the high-end boutique clinicas. The full price is 640 BR (Sharon & TAJ) and up to 750 BR (the Palms) on the credit card of which a Palm girl gets 350 BR. Don't ask me to identify my 2 favorite Palm girls because I won't. KKK. I put in the leg work and made the $$ investments, won some and lost some, KKK, so I will not share my hard-earned results except to say my 2 favorite Palm girls are top caliber in looks and performance and they could easily pull in 700 BR or 800 BR maybe more per session in Scandallo.
So, for me the most important question of the morning after I enjoy my coffee, juice, and breakfast at my hotel buffet is; do I feel like getting it on in the early afternoon or do I want to wait until 9:30 pm. Ha Ha. If I am in the mood for afternoon sex, the next question I ask myself is; do I want to have real good sex with a down to earth SP girl for 360 BR max or do I want to have real good sex with a potentially upscale boate quality girl at one of these expensive boutique clinicas, or do a sure thing with one of my repeat high end clinica favorites) in the afternoon for twice the price of a regular clinca girl, which is also half the price of a quality boate girl (700 BR+500 BR (consumable)+240 BR (room) minimum) in the evening.
That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. I also have the option of calling one of my favorite boate repeat girls like Valeria and inviting her over to my hotel for the evening (5 to 7 hours / multiple shags / no sleepovers) for 900 BR not including wine, weed, and dinner. What a life! I am happy when I am in SP.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2891962]I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.[/QUOTE]I second this. Almost all girls will refuse BBFS if you ask even offering a tip. I think the easiest way to NOT get BBFS is to ask the girl for it. For me, 5-10% will be a great session and the girl will just do it when she gets in the mood. More likely to get it with repeats with regulars, about 30%.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2892266]...Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue ....[/QUOTE]The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl [B]ONCE[/B] and make a different pick in the room.
Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2892148]Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.
While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.
[URL]http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/[/URL]
Note that its interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.[/QUOTE]I don't speak spanish and don't club so have to step my game up and learn fast.
I was going to budget 5000 USD total to spend 2 weeks in Colombia since it seems the girls average 20 to 85 USD there. Whats the average here in reals for normal or street girls plus the min / max range to spend on a Scandallo girl?
Is it preferred to use the hotel in the club for those hookups? Couldn't find the room rate.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892291]The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl [B]ONCE[/B] and make a different pick in the room.
Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.[/QUOTE]Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2892266]The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.
[/QUOTE]Another bonus of the high end clinicas is that it's a little easier to see who will be there by their websites, decide if one particular person is a fit for your tastes, and make an appointment a day in advance via WhatsApp (with the caveat that the appointments will fall through at least 25% of the time). Also early appointments (10 or 11 am even) are possible if you're morning oriented, whereas the other clinicas don't really get going until around 1 or 2. After much time in SP one can get particular about a type so it's a little more of a sure thing to work in advance, instead of waiting for the day of WhatsApp updates of the other Clinicas. That said the surprises at Boates and clinicas with lots of new people, like Tangara, can also be super fun.
Unless things have changed there is a nice little bar upstairs at Abbobora. But once you pick your girl they want you to rumble so you can't really relax with a drink. So if you have a wingman and want to have a pregame warmup drink seems best to have that before calling the girls for lineup. Others with boots on the ground (soon!) may have an update or other advice.
Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2892266]T
That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. [/QUOTE]This is an amazingly helpful breakdown of the range available in SP. Thank you! I've been plotting out spots on a map to try to pick a hotel, and I'm going to color code them now.
As I am researching Clinicas, I ran across this site ([URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL]) that had listings for a few places I'd already identified. Are they all just owned by the same group? I have seen reviews for a few of the places here, so I feel like they are probably legit, though some of the associated sites blur faces, which is always a red flag.
[QUOTE=Septimius;2892202]Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.
My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate? [/QUOTE]I recommend that all of us follow the Federation's general rules of Starfleet Command Section 1:
Starfleet crew will obey the following with any civilization that has not achieved a commensurate level of technological and / or societal development as described in Appendix 1.
No identification of self or mission.
No interference with the social, cultural, or technological development of said planet.
No references to space, other worlds, or advanced civilizations.
So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas.
When I 1st started visiting the clinicas and boates I would look for some kind of sign, after a session was over, from the girls indicating they were expecting a tip. There never was any indication, so I quickly realized the girls were not expecting any kind of tip, so I stopped thinking about it. A no tipping culture means nobody expects a tip. They don't even know it exists, so let's not give them any ideas.
On my 3rd trip to SP, Marcos, the head waiter at Bomboa, passed me on to his new apprentice waiter. The new guy was just as capable a waiter as Marcos was, but every time I went to pay my tab, he hit me up for a friggin' tip. I told him I would take care of him before I left town, so he should not bother me for tips anymore. He said he understood, but the guy did not get it, and he continued to pester me. So, I gave him nada.
When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.
I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.
On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892239]That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.
I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DustyRode;2892241]There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2892453]
...So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas...
When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.
I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.
On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.[/QUOTE]Thank you all for the advice and suggestions. Hey Alex I remember reading your post about this a few days ago while trying to catch up on the thread. I could not remember who wrote it but it's actually one of the reasons I posted the question in the first place. Good to know though.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2892394]...Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?[/QUOTE]I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2892672]I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.[/QUOTE]At Palms, there is a bar but it must only be for show as when I asked for a beer they said they don't serve alcohol. There is no MGC (Meet Greet and Chill). It is all business but let's just say it's all good business. Palms was one of my most favorite visits.
J.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2892349]Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.[/QUOTE]AxH,
Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.
J.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2892756]AxH,
Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.
J.[/QUOTE]Many times those muscular contractions are involuntary. For instance they happen when a woman is coming.
[QUOTE=JSmith80;2892756]AxH,
Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.
J.[/QUOTE]Not Katrina, but it is good to know another Palm girl can pussy squeeze.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2892810]Many times those muscular contractions are involuntary. For instance they happen when a woman is coming. [/QUOTE]Voluntary or involuntary, whatever the cause, my dick likes the feeling. KKK. A lot!
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2891814]Do providers in SP or Rio provide BBFS (clubs or freelancers)? Can this be negotiated and what is the extra cost.[/QUOTE]The answer for me was yes. I had SA ladies, Scandalo, tender, and some on photo acompanhantes. I haven't tried at clinicas but maybe next time.
I sometimes just ask them and 8 out of 10 say yes, some want extra and some don't.
[QUOTE=WillieWonkers;2892046]DM me if you have not gone yet. I am here.[/QUOTE]Tried to send you a message, but it is blocked. Saying you can't accept any private messages. Can you send me a DM and I can reply.
Hi Willie Wonkers.
Thanks for reaching out and offering help on Curitiba.
Planning to go in April and preparing for that. Reasonably familiar with the game in Rio and in SP. What are the cool places to go in Curitiba. We know only one club called "Sense". What are your recommendations? The Curitiba board is so empty and outdated now.
[QUOTE=WillieWonkers;2892046]DM me if you have not gone yet. I am here.[/QUOTE]Your will become senior and have free DM access when your post count reaches 25.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2892428]As I am researching Clinicas, I ran across this site ([URL]https://melhoreskamas.com/[/URL]) that had listings for a few places I'd already identified. Are they all just owned by the same group? I have seen reviews for a few of the places here, so I feel like they are probably legit, though some of the associated sites blur faces, which is always a red flag.[/QUOTE]I checked todays WhatsApp status photos with the website for a few of the clinicas and they match. So I think the rest of them should be accurate also. Not sure if these clinicas are owned or related to each other. Doesn't seem like it. Or does this site just grabs the WhatsApp pics that are posted. I remember there was another website a few years ago that show the daily lineup for a different group of clinics but that site closed down after a few months. I think still easier to add the status of the clinicas in WhatsApp and get the lineup there.
To start yes I did read the "hotels" thread. And most all conversation is Moema or after that very outdated.
Staying SP early Sept. I want to stay in central area of SP, Itaim Bibi, Jardin or Paulista. Need advice on more upscale hotels that are GF or reasonable additional fee. Marriott's or Hilton like will do. Yes I did see thread on Marriott Exec Apts and looking at -- seems like all smoking rooms which make me gag. I do not take street hookers to hotels. Girls will be dressed decently and behave.
Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards Air BnB with a booking for two adults. Anyone used Air BnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?
I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2893585]To start yes I did read the "hotels" thread. And most all conversation is Moema or after that very outdated.
Staying SP early Sept. I want to stay in central area of SP, Itaim Bibi, Jardin or Paulista. Need advice on more upscale hotels that are GF or reasonable additional fee. Marriott's or Hilton like will do. Yes I did see thread on Marriott Exec Apts and looking at -- seems like all smoking rooms which make me gag. I do not take street hookers to hotels. Girls will be dressed decently and behave.[/QUOTE]Try the Renaissance. Not only is it GF, you'll usually find some overpriced GDPs in the lobby bar.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2893585]To start yes I did read the "hotels" thread. And most all conversation is Moema or after that very outdated.
Staying SP early Sept. I want to stay in central area of SP, Itaim Bibi, Jardin or Paulista. Need advice on more upscale hotels that are GF or reasonable additional fee. Marriott's or Hilton like will do. Yes I did see thread on Marriott Exec Apts and looking at -- seems like all smoking rooms which make me gag. I do not take street hookers to hotels. Girls will be dressed decently and behave.[/QUOTE]1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.
2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.
3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!
4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.
5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.
Hello fellow Vets.
Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?
Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.
Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?
If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.
Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2893618]1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.
2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.
3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!
4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.
5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for info. I booked the Renaissance for 4 nights but had to set departure date 2 days before my flight since fuckers at Marriott jacked the price to $800 per night Sept. 5th and 6th. NFL game is in SP on the 6th so they take advantage. I'll book at lower price hotel that's GF friendly remaining two nights. Hassle moving for two nights but no way am I wasting money I could be using to monger.
[QUOTE=CCRider1008;2893700]Thanks for info. I booked the Renaissance for 4 nights but had to set departure date 2 days before my flight since fuckers at Marriott jacked the price to $800 per night Sept. 5th and 6th. NFL game is in SP on the 6th so they take advantage. I'll book at lower price hotel that's GF friendly remaining two nights. Hassle moving for two nights but no way am I wasting money I could be using to monger.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it looks like all the American chain hotels are going wild on the dates you specified. I had a similar problem although not as severe for the dates of June 25 to June 28. Normally the Hyatt wants 9000 points for a night's stay, but on the specific dates I mentioned they want 15,000 points / night.
Fuck them. KKK. Check out the Grand Mercure Itaim Bibi or the Gran Estanplaza Berrini. Both hotels are friendly, quality, 4. 35 star hotels that I have stayed at many times. The Itaim Bibi neighborhood is better for restaurants and walking around plus that hotel is 2 blocks from Bomboa. It is absolutely girl friendly.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2893656]Hello fellow Vets.
Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?
Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.
Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?
If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.
Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.[/QUOTE]I entered "cambio" as keyword for search and found the following.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2893656]Hello fellow Vets.
Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?
Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.
Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?
If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.
Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.[/QUOTE]Honestly, it's never been mentioned too much on this forum but converting money in your home country is the most convenient. Yes, you'll lose some money on the conversion rate but it's incredibly convenient. I never had to step foot into a bank or exchange place while over there. Whatever I didn't use, I converted back. Convenience costs money but in my opinion it was worth it.
As for the SIM cards, it's hit or miss. I don't have too much experience with that.
J.
Has anyone done an extended stay at the Lush Motel? It looks pretty cool and will obviously be girl friendly.
J.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2893656]Hello fellow Vets.
Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?
Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.
Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?
If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.
Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.[/QUOTE]Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed.
[URL]https://www.encontrajardins.com.br/rua-oscar-freire/empresas/seattle-tur-viagens-e-cambio/[/URL]
You can get a Tim SIM complete with data showing only your passport.
[QUOTE=XXL;2893979]Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed. [/QUOTE]Seattle is the best of the lot and easy to get to, but the best fx exchange rate is only available with the Schaab no fee ATM card. It is a true travel game changer. I only bring emergency / backup US $$$ with me now.
I have a person who delivers to my hotel and he gives a pretty good rate. Last week, the exchange rate was 4. 96 and he delivered at 4. 90 to my hotel. If you want his WhatsApp, I can PM the number. I usually text him a day before I arrive into SP. He only speaks Portuguese so you will have to use google translate.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2893618]1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.
2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.
3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!
4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.
5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.[/QUOTE]I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.
I had a short stopover at Sao Paulo recently. I got 2 TIM chips, each for a month, for the next two months. According to the seller, I can use the second SIM after my first SIM expires in 30 days. I am still not sure if the seller understood what I was trying to do. She told me to make 1 phone call each day for the first 2 days to keep the second SIM active. I will find out next month to see if my second SIM will give me another 30 days or not.
I had some unfinished business in Vila Mariana. I was in the area, so I went to Yankins. There lineup was poor in the morning. I picked one that the manager told me was very good, so I skipped the interview. I was given room #2 upstairs. It must have been remodeled recently. It looked new and spotless. That was why I walked into the shower glass door without seeing it was closed. Fortunately, I did not break it and I was fine. The girl and I both got a good laugh. I realized that I may have made a mistake when the girl tried to put the condom on for oral. Haha. I asked the girl nicely with a "please", she changed her mind and gave me a BBBJ instead. The BJ was excellent and she DP it so much that I thought she must enjoy it. This made me wonder what the CBJ was about.
There were more girls present when I was leaving, and I saw one that I like. I went back several hours later to find her but she was not available. I asked for a lineup. I picked the first one without seeing more. I asked her if she did oral without, she whispered in my ear "Eu chupo sem camisinha" so I don't think I need to see more. LOL. I was assigned room #2 again. I finished with CIM and I did not fuck her. I have been getting BBFS for the last few months and I know it's going to be a struggle to finish with condom because it was difficult in the morning session.
Back to the last day in Brazil of my previous trip, I had a session here with a pregnant girl. It was unremarkable except she was pregnant with a baby bump on her stomach. I was thinking checking out Taj and to a no name restaurant that I walked pass when I had session at Sharon as it seemed popular with locals. I decided to go to Tangara first because I had not been there for a long time. I ended up trying to wait for a girl to finish lunch but unfortunately an Asian guy was waiting by the stairs and got her first. When I was waiting, I got hard sitting there watching another girl sitting across me who was chatting with a couple of locals for a long time. I talked to her and chatted a bit, then we went to the room. The session was memorable because she was friendly and unspoiled that I told her to ignore the bell, and stayed in the room as long as we want just talking about stuff. She is a very good story teller with a very attractive voice that I will always remember. My Portuguese is poor but we shared some common interests like diving, and Brazilian food so I was able to comprehend more than usual. She taught me a new word maconha. This is a girl that I really miss but as it was my last day, I did not get her number and I never see her in Tangara's WhatsApp lineup. By the time I got to the restaurant, it was after 3 PM and closed but I made it this trip.
The picture is the stair at Tangara, the bar is downstaris where the girls ate that day. The chair was where I sat while waiting. The girl I took sat across me.
[QUOTE=Dobandun22;2894135]I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.[/QUOTE]I never posted specifically on the Sao Paulo JW because I never stayed there and there are 2 reasons why. 1) Every time I was looking to make hotel reservations & loaded up with Marriott points and free night vouchers, the Renaissance offered better deals. A lot better deals. 2) As I posted previously, I greatly prefer the Jardins and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods over Morumbi / Brooklyn for daytime walkabouts as well as their closer proximity to my favorite boates.
That said, I am looking forward to my upcoming stay at the Sao Paulo JW. I made the reservation a few weeks ago by chance when I logged into my Marriott account and surprise, surprise, the JW was offering a significantly discounted week's stay in points, much lower than the Renaissance ask, so I jumped on it. The JW used to be a 4 Seasons Hotel, so I am pretty sure it is a more luxurious hotel than the Renaisance, but at this level of hotel quality that alone does not make much difference to me. What counts in my book is location, location, location, and price.
And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates. There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.
I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.
I have stayed a few times at the Marriott Exec Hotel. The Marriott Exec is not really a 5-star hotel, more like a 4. 3 star, but I really like its little neighborhood adjacent to Ibirapuera Park to the East and 2 blocks from Bomboa to the west. There is a friendly local steakhouse and very good sushi restaurant worth checking out for lunch nearby in this neighborhood.
All these hotels are girl friendly. I have personally had 2 girls up to my room in a true lesbian menage a trois, at the Hilton, but on the advice of my main girl in the enterprise, we did it one at a time ie my main girl arrived 1st and I brought her up to my room and then 5 minutes later her girlfriend texted us that she was arriving, and I went down, met her as she was getting out of her uber, and escorted her up to my room. No security check whatsoever.
The Marriot Exec is also very loose. The max number of girls I have brought back to this hotel is only 2 girls at a time, but the front desk didn't bat an eye, so I assume you can bring as many girls as you like back to the Marriott Exec. KKK. The Hyatt and the Renaissance have sometimes insisted on a security checks for my girls and sometimes they have not. There is a back door to the Hyatt elevators through the garden / pool area into the dining room which might prove useful if you are planning to have more than one girl at a time at the Hyatt. The Hyatt like the Renaissance usually has a FL'er or two hanging out in the lobby. They are easy to spot, but very, very expensive. I highly recommend bringing a girl back from one of the boates instead.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894169]I had a short stopover at Sao Paulo recently. I got 2 TIM chips, each for a month, for the next two months. According to the seller, I can use the second SIM after my first SIM expires in 30 days. I am still not sure if the seller understood what I was trying to do. She told me to make 1 phone call each day for the first 2 days to keep the second SIM active. I will find out next month to see if my second SIM will give me another 30 days or not.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks as always. Can you explain the TIM chip situation? How did you activate it? I thought you had to go to a store and show your passport? Or did you have CPF already?
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2894304]Nice report, thanks as always. Can you explain the TIM chip situation? How did you activate it? I thought you had to go to a store and show your passport? Or did you have CPF already?[/QUOTE]You only need passport. The easiest method is to buy a TIM chip (sim) from the newsstand. The go to a Tim store to have them help you activate it with your passport. If they don't know how, you can just ask them to connect you using your phone to an online person who speaks English then you can take over and provide the information asked, like address and passport info.
You can search for Loja TIM on google map to find the stores near you. Usually you can find one in shopping center.
When you run out of data, you can go to a drugstore, ask a few and you will find out that does, or convenience store like Americanas to recharge it. They only take cash for this.
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2894176]And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around [b]the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates.[/b] There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.
I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.[/QUOTE]What [U]Boates[/U] are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?
[QUOTE=TheCritic;2894412]What [U]Boates[/U] are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?[/QUOTE]I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.
I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.
My flight is booked, and I just secured an apartment near the Hospital São Luiz! Next week, all of this dreaming becomes a reality!
I looked at different hotels, but decided on an AirBnB because the price was so good. $70/ day! It seems like it's maybe well positioned for some walking tours of the clinicas. It's hard to know by just using Google Maps, but it feels like it's pretty well situated.
I have Google Fi and WhatsApp. It will show a US number though. Is it worth going to the trouble of getting a local SIM to get a Brazilian #?
I plan on using ATMs to withdraw BRL. But maybe at a place like Scandallo, it makes more sense to just use a card to pay instead of carrying so much cash?
Anything (other than Scandallo!) you wouldn't want to miss on your first visit to SP / Brasil? Debaucherous or not. All suggestions are welcome.
Obrigado!
Anyone have photos of the girls they've partaked in at Scandello or any links in this thread? I'm planning to spend the next 3 months learning Portuguese on Duolingo, or if anyone has another recommended service or way to learn to at least understand some basics.
How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2894428]I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.
I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.[/QUOTE]If anyone plans to try to make it Scandello before 7 pm from the Renaissance, leave early and I mean early. I left my room at 6 pm and ordered an Uber on the way down. The Uber came in approx 10-12 mins, and I got to Scandello with 8 minutes to spare. We had to deal with rush hour traffic and luckily we didn't have any other issues. Just something to keep in mind if you are planning to take advantage of the early entry fee.
First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. They kept the large stage area of the club and large patio closed as it was not yet crowded.
Since the spaces in the club were limited to the small entry bar, the small garden terrace and the restaurant, my buddy Mark and I went to the restaurant. Mark is new to the game and thus was super impressed, even though only maybe 1/5 of the floor area was open and maybe 20-30 girls? But the luxury and girl quality is undeniable.
We settled in with some Jack and Coke. Before I forget let me warn you here. Jack is $16 USD and coke is $6 charged separately. So a Jack and Coke is $22. Corona is much more reasonable at $10 but we didn't figure this out till later. We ran up quite the bar tab plus cigars and entry.
Of course it is not long before we are approached and we fend off a couple girls. However one girl, Gabi is a real cutie and takes a very casual approach standing near me and engaging in light convo in her great English but never pushy. Super classy girl. Meanwhilst Mark is approached by a couple girls as well including Maria who we will return to.
We had made a pact to not take anyone the first hour. So it takes the pressure off a bit because you know you are going to settle in. At some point we decide to walk the rest of the club and that gives us a chance to chat frankly. He is smitten with my girl, Gabi, and that is great because she's a shade off my type tho super pretty.
Mark was complaining that the patio was smoky and the best way to defeat this is to smoke urself so we get a couple Monte Cristos. These are a heart stopping $40 each we find out later so bring 'them if you got 'them!
As Mark was interested in Gabi I grab her for him and the three of us get a table on the patio. It's clear those two have a connection and soon her hand is on his leg and they are laughing like old friends. Gabi is lovely to chat with and I don't feel a third wheel, but soon think I should grab a hottie as well.
I excuse myself for a minute and circle before deciding on Maria, who had engaged Mark initially. I bring her back to the table and we get another chair. Maria doesn't smoke but Gabi and Mark are sharing his cigar. It's an intimate thing to do and Maria tries mine, with me explaining how to smoke it. A lovely double date!
The great thing about Scandallo is there is no rush to the room. A quality girl there is happy to spend time "on the date" as well and will spend quite a bit of time just laughing and drinking and smoking. We prob spend at least an hour, maybe more. At some point Maria and I start making out. And like most Brasileiras I know, she can kiss like an Angel and a devil all rolled into one!
Eventually we decide to get a room and both of us have a whale of a time. Maria is a wet passionate fuck fest and Gabi who seems so classy is a very naughty minx in the room. Both Mark and I were on cloud nine. Mark came down 40 minutes over the hour if that tells you something. LOL.
We are both pretty spent but LOVE the Scandallo atmosphere. It's carnival week so the attendance is comparably light but still surely 100+ girls as the club fills up (they never did open the patio given the slow night). So we just settle in and drink and watch the future fuck partners parade.
For those that haven't been, aside from the luxe and scale of the club the girls are uniformly pretty. Mark and I agree that while we have our favorites there are only maybe 5 to 8 girls we wouldn't be happy fucking. It's all slim and fit hotties with bare midriffs, a handful of which are 9. 5's. Yowza!
I can't recall the exact sequence but Mark ends up chatting with slim hottie Laura for a very long time in the restaurant. I assume I am just cruising and enjoying the girl buffet. He doesn't intend to take her but I think I will because I hate that he chats her up so long (30+ minutes) but doesn't plan to take her.
I guess tho she worked her magic because when I check in at some point he says he plans to take her. So I quickly switch to wingman mode and say OK let me go grab a girl but I have nothing to go on but optics because of the short notice and assume I will settle, but play the good wingman role.
So I head back into the fray of the main club area and start wending my way through the body jam. I had seen this super petite cutie earlier. Maybe 148-150 cm tall with a nice chest and go and grab her. Not a lot of lead up. Just "Hi my name is Steve" and "Let's go talk in the restaurant". As I lead her back to Mark and Laura I think they are surprised I made such a quick grab but I am in wingman mode now.
Turns out I made an excellent choice. Probably the best body I've seen on a 5 foot nuthin girl. Just built out in all the right places. A fucking brick house for fucking.
She's a ton of fun in the room and ready to please. We suck and fuck forever but I am perilously hard to finish as my fifth fuck in four days. But she's a damn hard worker and good sport, smiling ear to ear throughout with plenty of ball licking and all my usual finishing tricks.
We finally go to the age old finisher of jerking off while she masturbates that gorgeous 20 year old pussy. We are at it s good long time and, at my age, my shot is maybe an inch distance on a good day. LOL So we are both shocked when I shoot a full 18" and hit her square on the thigh. Damn that was nice!
So yet another spectacular Scandallo visit and spectacular price tag as well. Girls were 1100-1500 R and not budging below that. Totally worth it of course. With drinks, girls, cigars, rooms and entry we each dropped about $800. Certainly pricey for Brasil but worth every fucking penny and fuck we were there 7 hours! Scandallo retains its status as number one girl club worldwide IMO. Just adore it. A must do for every man.
Stay tuned for the pull of a full on ten from Casarao the next day. No joke. Prettiest girl I've ever been with and that's saying something. Coming soon.
[QUOTE=Anaggie;2894563]If anyone plans to try to make it Scandello before 7 pm from the Renaissance, leave early and I mean early. I left my room at 6 pm and ordered an Uber on the way down. The Uber came in approx 10-12 mins, and I got to Scandello with 8 minutes to spare. We had to deal with rush hour traffic and luckily we didn't have any other issues. Just something to keep in mind if you are planning to take advantage of the early entry fee.[/QUOTE]Yep, gone are the good ol' omicron days of recent memory (2021) when there was hardly any traffic on the road and you could travel anywhere fast without a problem. KKK. Nowadays, even a short ride from the Hyatt to Iguatemi shopping mall will take at least 25 minutes around noon time and an early afternoon ride from the Renaissance down to Moema Clinica country will take 30 minutes or longer.
But the really critical travel time to keep in mind is the ride from your hotel to GRU to catch the return flight home. For this reason, I prefer to book the last AA or Latam flight out of SP to MIA which is scheduled after 11 pm local time. Plan on an hour minimum ride time to the airport. You don't want to miss your flight home or maybe you do. KKK.
Hey Steve, it sounds like you and your pal had a great 2-fer time at Scandallo despite the fact that it was a quiet night and you guys spent a bundle. But hell its only money, woman and booze with a few cigars thrown into the mix. LOL. It must have been an added bonus to look after and watch your friend's "cherry boy" initiation rites into this great bordello / nightclub scene. KKK. I am looking forward to hearing about Casarao, the next night, and the "prettiest girl". Ha Ha. What suspense! Good trip report, mate.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894579]First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. They kept the large stage area of the club and large patio closed as it was not yet crowded.
Since the spaces in the club were limited to the small entry bar, the small garden terrace and the restaurant, my buddy Mark and I went to the restaurant. Mark is new to the game and thus was super impressed, even though only maybe 1/5 of the floor area was open and maybe 20-30 girls? But the luxury and girl quality is undeniable.
So yet another spectacular Scandallo visit and spectacular price tag as well. Girls were 1100-1500 R and not budging below that. Totally worth it of course. With drinks, girls, cigars, rooms and entry we each dropped about $800. Certainly pricey for Brasil but worth every fucking penny and fuck we were there 7 hours! Scandallo retains its status as number one girl club worldwide IMO. Just adore it. A must do for every man.
Stay tuned for the pull of a full on ten from Casarao the next day. No joke. Prettiest girl I've ever been with and that's saying something. Coming soon.[/QUOTE]New to the game and breaks his cherry at Scandallo! It's all downhill after that.
Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this.
The girls are mostly a 5 to 6 crowd by my standards with some 4's thrown in and a smattering of higher girls. And the guys are all locals. Wear a black tee shirt and sneakers and you will fit right in.
The thing about it is though that awash in the sea of mediocrity there is a gem! I found one a couple years back and I found a straight up brilliant cut 5 carat diamond last night. Just absolutely smokin!
We got there about 11:15 and even though that sounds late the club was super empty. Good news is we were able to get seats up near the front and watch the parade of girls roll in one by one or in small groups. By 12 it was pretty packed.
Drinking our Red Bull vodkas we survey the scene. We'the been to Abobbora just five hours before and drained our balls, so neither of us were on edge and Mark generally planned to enjoy the vibe and not take a girl. Horndog Steve however always wants to pull a hottie and hopes his soldier will come to muster.
Mark is seated next to a girl who starts out friendly but soon gets shitfaced and starts to give fatal attraction vibes. Mark tries to fend her off but like a leach she hangs on tight. He is good natured about it and manages it well.
At one point we see these two girls walk into the club and don't get a full view but see pretty faces and beautiful bundas go by. Filed for later, they shortly appear across the room sitting at the edge of the stage. Their faces are harder to see in the dark and fog but one girls abs are def a work of art. Defined but in a feminine way. Mark and I agree she is smokin.
What a pleasant surprise when the tiny firecracker one, Mia, comes across the room to me and her model-tall friend, Manu approaches Mark. Up close I am even more impressed. Face of an Angel, nice chest (more on that later) and an ass I would give my left nut for!
She is friendly and all smiles and tells me she thinks I am beautiful (her English doesn't know the subtlety of handsome). Ok nice start! We get on like a house on fire, mostly in slow Português and a bit of google translate. Progressively we mutually move her closer between my legs and before long my arms are around her and she's my girl. Feels like a girlfriend almost instantly. I love that chemistry, rare though it may be.
We quite enjoy the strip shows as she confesses she likes both boys and girls. I learn that she is Amazonian from Manaus and damn yes she has the perfect native indigenous look to her. We chat and get more confortable and share a light kiss or two.
Eventually I seal the deal and it is half what a Scandallo girl would charge. Yet she could smoke any Scandallo girl hands down. So that's the beauty of Casarao. The gem, waiting to be discovered.
We go next door to the hotel and checkin but after we learn it's a 30 minute wait I decide to ask her to my hotel overnight. She's quite enthusiastic and we agree to double the hourly number. WTF? A Scandallo quality girl overnight for the Scandallo hour price. Wowza!
Back in the room I am of course super excited. But my jaw hits the floor when she undresses. I'the seen a bikini pic on her phone and woah that girl is built. But seeing her suddenly naked in front of you is mind blowing. Perfect natural Cee cup tits which are firm and perfect. An ass built by god himself as an example of how it should be. Those tan lines that only Brasileiras can do for some reason! Omfg.
I am going to digress here because I'm callling a TEN. I am sure many of you will say — what? Tens don't exist. They are the mythical unicorn of the girl world. And I was on this page until June of this year when I met Dayana in Madrid and later flew her to Athens. Dayana was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Smokes any actress or model you might think of. So I have the benchmark right there. I called a TEN and I am calling it again a short 8 months later with Mia. Mia is absolutely stunning. She has even displaced Fortune at Diva London as best ass on planet earth. Mias ass is magical — that brasileira bunda that is unique. And in her case on a petite built frame.
The sex is beautiful and passionate and mutually caring. With plenty of deep kissing, ball worship, and other assorted goodies. Afterwards we crash and sleep intertwined. It's so lovely the mixing of limbs and alternating big spoon and little spoon. Just a lovely girl.
In the morning it's a quick BJ before she has to go and I am a little disappointed because I could fuck her for days. Well maybe I still might. Working on setting up a double date tonight with her and her friend and Mark and then a sleepover party. Kkkk.
Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist — and Mia is a rockstar fucking gem. Smitten.
[QUOTE=Combo;2894624]New to the game and breaks his cherry at Scandallo! It's all downhill after that.[/QUOTE]Mark is new but slightly used. Kkkk. Introduced him to our world at Monte Carlo in Rio and he is def on the path to greatness. Scandallo was amazing. But as my recent post Casarao has gems as well. He was pretty struck by Manu so hopefully tonight will measure up. But yeah Scandallo totally rules.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894636]Mark is new but slightly used. Kkkk. Introduced him to our world at Monte Carlo in Rio and he is def on the path to greatness. Scandallo was amazing. But as my recent post Casarao has gems as well. He was pretty struck by Manu so hopefully tonight will measure up. But yeah Scandallo totally rules.[/QUOTE]Great to hear that your first and second night turned out so well. Finding a TEN is damn near impossible and I am glad you got one. Enjoy your time. And it is still true — there is nothing like Scandello!!
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894633]Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this.
The girls are mostly a 5 to 6 crowd by my standards with some 4's thrown in and a smattering of higher girls. And the guys are all locals. Wear a black tee shirt and sneakers and you will fit right in.
The thing about it is though that awash in the sea of mediocrity there is a gem! I found one a couple years back and I found a straight up brilliant cut 5 carat diamond last night. Just absolutely smokin!
We got there about 11:15 and even though that sounds late the club was super empty. Good news is we were able to get seats up near the front and watch the parade of girls roll in one by one or in small groups. By 12 it was pretty packed.
Drinking our Red Bull vodkas we survey the scene. We'the been to Abobbora just five hours before and drained our balls, so neither of us were on edge and Mark generally planned to enjoy the vibe and not take a girl. Horndog Steve however always wants to pull a hottie and hopes his soldier will come to muster.
Mark is seated next to a girl who starts out friendly but soon gets shitfaced and starts to give fatal attraction vibes. Mark tries to fend her off but like a leach she hangs on tight. He is good natured about it and manages it well.
At one point we see these two girls walk into the club and don't get a full view but see pretty faces and beautiful bundas go by. Filed for later, they shortly appear across the room sitting at the edge of the stage. Their faces are harder to see in the dark and fog but one girls abs are def a work of art. Defined but in a feminine way. Mark and I agree she is smokin.
What a pleasant surprise when the tiny firecracker one, Mia, comes across the room to me and her model-tall friend, Manu approaches Mark. Up close I am even more impressed. Face of an Angel, nice chest (more on that later) and an ass I would give my left nut for!
She is friendly and all smiles and tells me she thinks I am beautiful (her English doesn't know the subtlety of handsome). Ok nice start! We get on like a house on fire, mostly in slow Portugus and a bit of google translate. Progressively we mutually move her closer between my legs and before long my arms are around her and she's my girl. Feels like a girlfriend almost instantly. I love that chemistry, rare though it may be.
We quite enjoy the strip shows as she confesses she likes both boys and girls. I learn that she is Amazonian from Manaus and damn yes she has the perfect native indigenous look to her. We chat and get more confortable and share a light kiss or two.
Eventually I seal the deal and it is half what a Scandallo girl would charge. Yet she could smoke any Scandallo girl hands down. So that's the beauty of Casarao. The gem, waiting to be discovered.
We go next door to the hotel and checkin but after we learn it's a 30 minute wait I decide to ask her to my hotel overnight. She's quite enthusiastic and we agree to double the hourly number. WTF? A Scandallo quality girl overnight for the Scandallo hour price. Wowza!
Back in the room I am of course super excited. But my jaw hits the floor when she undresses. I'the seen a bikini pic on her phone and woah that girl is built. But seeing her suddenly naked in front of you is mind blowing. Perfect natural Cee cup tits which are firm and perfect. An ass built by god himself as an example of how it should be. Those tan lines that only Brasileiras can do for some reason! Omfg.
I am going to digress here because I'm callling a TEN. I am sure many of you will say what? Tens don't exist. They are the mythical unicorn of the girl world. And I was on this page until June of this year when I met Dayana in Madrid and later flew her to Athens. Dayana was the most beautiful girl I had ever seen. Smokes any actress or model you might think of. So I have the benchmark right there. I called a TEN and I am calling it again a short 8 months later with Mia. Mia is absolutely stunning. She has even displaced Fortune at Diva London as best ass on planet earth. Mias ass is magical that brasileira bunda that is unique. And in her case on a petite built frame.
The sex is beautiful and passionate and mutually caring. With plenty of deep kissing, ball worship, and other assorted goodies. Afterwards we crash and sleep intertwined. It's so lovely the mixing of limbs and alternating big spoon and little spoon. Just a lovely girl.
In the morning it's a quick BJ before she has to go and I am a little disappointed because I could fuck her for days. Well maybe I still might. Working on setting up a double date tonight with her and her friend and Mark and then a sleepover party. Kkkk.
Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist and Mia is a rockstar fucking gem. Smitten.[/QUOTE]This is what we all live for, the anticipation of the hunt, the thrill of the chase, and finding and closing in on the kill with a gem who reciprocates with sexual chemistry.
Granted, Scandallo is the most fertile hunting ground in the world, like the Serengeti during migration.
So, I have always done incall mongering.
But as I read through these reports, I am seeing a LOT of reports of not just bringing girls back to your place, but overnight?
Is this something more normal in Brazil? What kind of pricing would something like that entail and am I reading it right that she sleeps over? Or is it more that she just stays for a few hours?
I really like the idea of a more drawn out physical encounter but have never even considered something like this because everywhere else I have hobbies, those services are always in the thousands of dollar price range. I have a nice, but not fancy apartment rented, so I don't think I would have a problem bringing someone back (in fact, the rules say I can have "no more than three visitors at a time", so it's kind of implied that guests are Ok.
Am I missing something?
[QUOTE=Robotron;2894504]Anyone have photos of the girls they've partaked in at Scandello or any links in this thread? I'm planning to spend the next 3 months learning Portuguese on Duolingo, or if anyone has another recommended service or way to learn to at least understand some basics.
How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.amazon.com/Assimil-Brazilian-Portuguese/dp/2700506316[/URL]
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[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2894660]So, I have always done incall mongering. <snip> Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]Overnights are up to you and most boate girls will accommodate you for a pre-negotiated price. Some guys prefer them and others do not. On the plus side there is nothing like a wake up in middle of the night / early morning shag and then falling back asleep in your lover's arms. On the other hand, it will cost more and I personally prefer getting to know a girl a few ST times first before deciding if she is LT worthy. But as with most things in this sport of sports, it is up to you. Follow your bliss.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2894504]....How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?[/QUOTE]The room was about 260 last year so it could be more this year if they have raised the price. If you don't get a room and want to take the girl out, you have to pay a similar amount of exit fee. The longer time you negotiate with the gilr, the lower cost of the girl will be on average. The problem with Scandallo is that if you live here and get your regulars from here, the starting price is high regardless the look of the girl. It feels stupid to spend that kind of money day in and day out for an average person.
Usually I pay the room and the club by credit card. I pay the girl in cash so I will carry enough cash to the club. You can pay the girl by credit card, but Scandallo will charge a fee on top of that. Casarao is similar except the casarao will charge a credit card fee on top of the regular room fee which was about 50, with fee that I remember was about 70, the last time I used it around 2 years ago.
I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894807]The room was about 260 last year so it could be more this year if they have raised the price. If you don't get a room and want to take the girl out, you have to pay a similar amount of exit fee. The longer time you negotiate with the gilr, the lower cost of the girl will be on average. The problem with Scandallo is that if you live here and get your regulars from here, the starting price is high regardless the look of the girl. It feels stupid to spend that kind of money day in and day out for an average person.
Usually I pay the room and the club by credit card. I pay the girl in cash so I will carry enough cash to the club. You can pay the girl by credit card, but Scandallo will charge a fee on top of that. Casarao is similar except the casarao will charge a credit card fee on top of the regular room fee which was about 50, with fee that I remember was about 70, the last time I used it around 2 years ago.
I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.[/QUOTE]Yes room is now 300 R. And if you put the girl on your card it is a 10% surcharge.
Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.
PS we went before 7 and avoided the 200R cover though that is noise in the scheme of things. The food is excellent and actually well priced.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894890]The food is excellent and actually well priced.[/QUOTE]I have tried to find the menu online, but no luck. What is the price range for a meal?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894890]Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.
The food is excellent and actually well priced.[/QUOTE]Steve, I do all of my cigar shopping at Tabacaria Roma at Alameda Santos, 1787 a few blocks away from the Renaissance. Quality imported cigars are expensive in SP, but I am sure this shop will beat the prices you are currently paying at Scandallo, not to mention Roma has a better selection and they keep all their cigars in a properly sealed controlled humidity & temperature environment.
I enjoyed reading your Casarao report. I can only add that I have used the adjacent hotel only 2 times. My 1st and last time. KKK. The room was that horrible and unclean that even the girl I was with did not want to shower or walk barefoot on the dirty floor barefoot. KKK. It's much better to take your Casarao girls back to your hotel wherever that is even if it is only for a ST session.
I eat Scandallo and Bomboa restaurants all the time. The Scandallo Restaurant is better of the two. Surprise, surprise. I am pretty sure you are aware of this, however, that there are much better steak houses and sushi restaurants scattered around SP that are really worth checking out. The main advantage of these 2 bordello restaurants is that they are convenient, open all the time, serve pretty good food, and the bill can be expensed as a portion of the consumables on your entry fee if you have not already used that up on drinks. KKK. In addition, there are not many SP restaurants as good as these 2 that are open late at night.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894807]....... but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.[/QUOTE]If 20% or 30% of the girls at Scandallo look like the girl in the picture you posted then Scandallo has hotter girls than the best German FKKs.
That face (and highly photoshoped body) returns a lot of escort and webcam sites. So, "booking her" online would be a dangerous error and a 100% bait and switch.
I can only imagine how many forum members who don't update their trips fall into this crime scheme.
Note: i suggest to post blurred faces only, in order to comply brasilian regulations about personal information.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2894807]
I have posted a few. Pictures are somewhat worthless because there is no standard and the girls come and go. The attached is from clubmodel and not a Scandallo girl. She probably is the most discussed known girl here that none of us have met. LOL. I say you won't find her in Scandallo on an average night, but a member may say 20% or 30% of the girls working at Scandallo are like her. My own observation is on average, the girls at Scandallo have body features that are more proportional when compared to the girls at the average clinicas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2894905]
I enjoyed reading your Casarao report. I can only add that I have used the adjacent hotel only 2 times. My 1st and last time. KKK. The room was that horrible and unclean that even the girl I was with did not want to shower or walk barefoot on the dirty floor barefoot. KKK. It's much better to take your Casarao girls back to your hotel wherever that is even if it is only for a ST session.
[/QUOTE]I've sessioned many times at the Casarao hotel and have always found the rooms adequate and clean.
AC, hot water, music, etc.
The rooms at Casarao prior to the remodel were of much lower quality.
I've been visiting Casarao for about 20 years now.
I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.
Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2894958]...I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.
Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.[/QUOTE]That's one of the reasons I like to come early to such places, not just in Brazil. I prefer running the risk of the place not yet having many girls to choose from.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894579]First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. T[/QUOTE]Damn good post. Looks like you had a Legendary time in a Legendary place.
[QUOTE=Steve 9696;2894633]Let's be clear up front. Casarao is not Scandallo. Not in the same league. Apples and Oranges. Rather than a consistently hot lineup of girls and well dressed guys, it is several notches down from this. Dynamite girl and literally breathtaking. I think like five times I blurted out "god fuck you are beautiful" What a find. And at Casarao of all places. So roll the dice at Casarao. The gems exist.....[/QUOTE] Another good post. Yes, gems do exist if you're willing to mine them.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2894890]Yes room is now 300 R. And if you put the girl on your card it is a 10% surcharge.
Got smaller cigars last night and they were $48 USD each. Quite a surprise when we got the bill at checkout. Fuck me! Kkkk.
PS we went before 7 and avoided the 200R cover though that is noise in the scheme of things. The food is excellent and actually well priced.[/QUOTE]So if I agree to pay a girl 1000 are, I can use a Debit< card to pay 1,100 are to the Bar then they pay the girl? Seems like it can come in handy if I'm short on cash.
For the room, is it by the hour? I'm thinking what if I see another girl immediately after I finish a session and want to grab another.
Anyone know the best day and time to arrive here and return flight to the US to get most action out of 16 days (including flights)? Would detour to Rio for a week halfway also.
[QUOTE=Balboa;2894958]I've been visiting Casarao for about 20 years now.
I try to choose my girl and get to the hotel before 1am when the line starts to gets too long.
Makes sense tho as the night goes on and there's a line for the rooms, that they may tend to do a quick clean of the rooms and may leave them less than desired.[/QUOTE]Good tip / Good to know. Taking advantage of the hotel allows one to return to Casarao for a 2nd round if one is desired. I like the concept, but taking a Casarao girl back to my hotel where I might have a bottle of quality Mezcal chilling in the refrigerator has its advantages too. KKK.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2895089]So if I agree to pay a girl 1000 are, I can use a Debit< card to pay 1,100 are to the Bar then they pay the girl? Seems like it can come in handy if I'm short on cash.
For the room, is it by the hour? I'm thinking what if I see another girl immediately after I finish a session and want to grab another.
Anyone know the best day and time to arrive here and return flight to the US to get most action out of 16 days (including flights)? Would detour to Rio for a week halfway also.[/QUOTE]The hotel is separate from the club and you pay there. So the sequence is:
Enjoy time in the club with your girl. You can spend pretty much as much time as you want. I've never been rushed.
Agree a price. I found hotties would ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. Gabi Marks girl wouldn't budge off 1500.
You take the elevator down to the lobby and she will go get her bag. Then up the stairs to check in.
If paying by card they will take the girls fee before the room and she gets a receipt.
Afterwards you pay the room including overage if you run over.
A parting kiss in the lobby and you pay ur exit or head back up to the club.
What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2895135]What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.[/QUOTE]It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.
Does Prime have a website? I have found websites for most of the other places I am looking to visit. I tried searching here and on the web, but the only Clinica Prime I can find looks to be a medical clinic.
After landing mega-hottie Mia for an overnight, we had planned to meet up again tonight and she would bring her friend Manu for Mark. We Whatsapp a bit about the date but I suddenly think "why not save that for Sunday which is dead". So I text Mia and say maybe Sunday instead. She's very happy with this and I realize it's best for both because we can enjoy a Saturday night separately (her prob working the club) and still hookup Sunday.
Of course our epic Scandallo visit is echoing in the back of our minds and we decide we have to reprise that! So off to Scandallo we go, arriving before 7 pm which avoids the 200 R cover, not that matters a lot in the scheme of things. We settle in at the bar in the restaurant and have a few little chats but nothing terribly worthy.
After some time we decide to eat and get a table. The food is actually amazing and well priced. I thought the price would be jacked up but it was like any restaurant. We had some Sushi and fried shrimp, both of which were super tasty. (I'the forgotten they put melted cheese in the fried shrimp in Brasil. Genius!) Girls don't really approach when you are eating so it's nice and relaxing.
After dinner, we again get into the cigars, not having learned a thing from our prior night, but this time selecting smaller presumably more reasonably priced ones. However with our final bill at the end of the night we find out they are a whopping $48 USD each! Those cards are dangerous! Kkkkkk.
We smoke on the patio and are approached by a couple 6-7's whom I would have sent away, but Mark has them join us and they are a lot of fun. Marks girl is even stroking his dick after a bit, but he holds out. I think they sense our lack of enthusiasm to take them to the room and they ask if we want them to stay or go and we politely dismiss them. They are good sports.
Throughout this time I am being absolutely STALKED by this slim girl in a peach dress. She is pretty but I have a certain type, so I keep trying to avoid her gaze. When I go to the bar she is right beside me staring at me from 12" away, but I don't look (it's like Medusa and I don't want to turn to stone! Back at the table she positions herself in my line of sight. Over and over. For more than an hour! It's a little creepy but it pays off for her though not like you might think.
At some point, I go to the restroom and she swoops in on Mark! And guess what? It's a match! They are quickly best buddies. She's high as a kite and it's clear a good time is going down!
Not much after that I am blessed by the gods. The prior night I had seen this smokin hot blonde with bare midriff and tight leather skirt and toned abs. I mean a 9. 5 wow kinda girl for me. I'the kinda fallen in love then but she was with another guy. But tonight she suddenly appears on the patio chatting with a friend and I am on her like an eagle on a rabbit!
Of course we have nice chat and fuck wow she's a cutie. So I bring my new girl, Isabella, to the table with Mark and his girl. We have a good time though not the same deep kissing and sexual chemistry of Maria. But I think even if this is an opti-fuck it will totally be worth it. So I suggest we all four make a break for it and go fuck. Game on! (Betting some forum members know Isa. She will stand out in any crowd!
In the room she does indeed have a stunning body. Man-mades yes, but the kind where she prob had a Bee-cup and so there is sufficient soft girly stuff to enjoy. And she is very very tanned. So those Brasileira tan lines are super dramatic. Toned abs and a Brasileira bunda. What's not to like.
The sex is a bit more mechanical than my other Boate girls, but I'm not complaining really. She wasn't a starfish or anything. Just the bar is set really high. And fuck me that girl is drop dead gorgeous. We had a nice time and I return to the club and reconnect with Mark who had a great time.
After this we both take another girl, but we mis-time this, with me taking his girl Lulana (from the night before while he waits around. And then he takes a girl and I wait around. Not recommended — better to stay in sync.
I could tell Lulana was going to be a beast in the room as she was dancing in the club and just super happy and energetic. She is tall with legs forever. Quite slim dark and A cup tits and a real firecracker in the room. Best fuck of the trip so far to be honest.
We pack it in about 3:30 AM so we spent over 8. 5 hours in the club and sank another $800 each! Honestly it flew by and considering Mark had 11 Coronas and I had 8 also plus a gin tropical and a Negroni and $48 cigars and two girls. Really not bad in the scheme of things!
Ah Scandallo. It just always delivers. And our Sunday night date with Mia and her friend delivered also. Stay tuned!
[QUOTE=Kazeu;2895150]It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.[/QUOTE]I guess it is because h is silent in both Spanish and Portuguese.
[QUOTE=John Gault;2895135]What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.[/QUOTE] Good question!
Yes the [b]"k's"[/b] all in a row, is seen as laughing and how Brazilians (and others), laugh online.
Can be equated with "hahahaha" (as previously mentioned by Kazeu), "LOL", "LMAO" or "jajajajaja", for example!
The pronunciation or sound the "kkkkkk" makes, is like a, [b]"cácácácá"[/b] or a [b]"kakakaka"[/b] sound when spoken/said out loud.
But how many [b]"k's"[/b] you want to use, is totally up to you!...kkkk!
[b]PS:[/b] Not to be confused with the other abbreviated definition, "the organization", of KKK.
The fucking legend! Always delivers. Great mentor for anyone wanting to learn mongering in any area of the world! I missed out on a chance to go down and hang with he and his friend because I had some SA girls lined up this last week. Bad mistake they all failed!
Great reports steve!
I started journey on 17 sat from Jfk early morning but due to snow storm my flight got delayed by like 12 hours. Feb 18, Sunday. Arrived early morning at Sao Paulo terminal 3. Immigration for the extranos line only 5 people before me. Bem viendo em Brazil. Went straight to custom. Zip thru like custom in 2 min. Easy peezy Very easy compare to America. I noticed it takes more time inside any usa airport for same process. At least 45 min minimum up to 3 hours inside big airports. Time of day doesn't matter. In the arrival downstair I tried exchange shop, she was giving me $1 to 4. 36 reals. After cutting tariffa and some other charge it became $1 to 3. 26 real. So only exchanged enough for Uber money 90 reals. Got settled in the place at 6. 30. Made errands to buy party and necessary stuff. Used wifi to get to CLnica Indy at 1 pm. Saw presentation, 3 available at that time. About 7 of other guys waiting for either chika or room. Line up rating 6 to 7. Picked up one Prego 8 months and still working. God bless her. She was real good for being Prego. Used wifi to get back to Airbnb. I needed recharge claro SIM, so I went to ibirapura mall in Indianapolis. Tried couple of movil shop to recharge my claro data. They said if the claro sim is bought from other country they can not recharge. They send me to VIVO. Vivo only sells prepaid to Brazilian citizens. Last option was to try TIM. It worked. Bought prepaid 54 gig for 1 month for 110 Reals. Checked the phone to see any near by CLnicas, found Prime and Taj Mahal. So I picked much talked about prime. Fuck it was busy. 3 chikas were just busy on the phone on out side patio and mamasan called for presentation. They did not care to stand up and make rounds. I saw serena, Claudia, Mariana and two more. There were like 8 guys waiting. Line up was not bad, out of all probably 3 were with nice personality, like everything just right. I picked up Claudia. Went upstairs. Bathroom shower upstairs suck, cold water with no pressure. So we both just cleaned up the necessary stuff. Off we go. She was real good in giving BJ. BBBJ available. Did not even ask for anal. She was nice and really into this deed. Couple of girls know here English. You can ask mamasan for that. After your session they give out complimentary soda, coco water and water.
Started late Around 3 pm today as I couldn't not get enough rest previous night. Made loop of yankin, Zeus and one really hood type Clnica upstairs on main road in Vila Mariana area. Yankin was very busy only one chika available but 10 guys are waiting outside. Zeus was empty 5 chikas available. Did not sessioned in any of these places. At this point I feel like my half of the day is wasted. So made plan to visit casaro at 10.30. Place had 3 chikas to 1 men ratio. Mostly 7 or 8 talent. Like Gusto in parque Lleras. Chatted with Bia for 1000 reals + 210 salida fine. From 11 pm until 10 in the morning. She was super cool and provided total GFE experience with no drama. Have her no. She definitely made up for the dry spell of the day. LOL. Ordered pizza at 2 in the morning and had really good time.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2895152]Does Prime have a website? I have found websites for most of the other places I am looking to visit. I tried searching here and on the web, but the only Clinica Prime I can find looks to be a medical clinic.[/QUOTE]Not hard to find.
[URL]https://clinica-massagem-moema.negocio.site/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2895118]The hotel is separate from the club and you pay there. So the sequence is:
Enjoy time in the club with your girl. You can spend pretty much as much time as you want. I've never been rushed.
Agree a price. I found hotties would ask 1500 but take 1000 or 1200. Gabi Marks girl wouldn't budge off 1500.
You take the elevator down to the lobby and she will go get her bag. Then up the stairs to check in.
If paying by card they will take the girls fee before the room and she gets a receipt.
Afterwards you pay the room including overage if you run over.
A parting kiss in the lobby and you pay ur exit or head back up to the club.[/QUOTE]Gotcha. In your previous post, you arrived early and spent 8 hours in the club waiting for a single stand out girl to book, or had multiple hookup dates within that time?
Out of curiosity, have you run into doubles (2 girls at once) offers at Scandallo, or offers of BBFS with or without extra reais, even if you decided not to? Or got digits and was offered it another time.
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2895135]What in the Sam Hill is KKK? It is not listed in the abbreviations.[/QUOTE]It's what Brazilians use the same way English speakers would use "hahaha". I found it odd too when I first discovered it.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2895364]Gotcha. In your previous post, you arrived early and spent 8 hours in the club waiting for a single stand out girl to book, or had multiple hookup dates within that time?
Out of curiosity, have you run into doubles (2 girls at once) offers at Scandallo, or offers of BBFS with or without extra reais, even if you decided not to? Or got digits and was offered it another time.[/QUOTE]Both times this visit and most other visits I've taken two girls. I am surely spending more time in the club because I am with a buddy. Prob goes something like:
2 hrs of dinner drinks and selecting. Prob have several chats.
1 HR with the girls just hanging out maybe kissing and laughing.
1 HR in the room w girl 1.
2 hrs in the club and chatting up girls.
1 HR in the room w girl 2.
1 HR misc like checkin in and out and who knows.
You can surely get a double at Scandallo but better have deep pockets. I saw a guy chatting up a this pasty white chick and next thing I know he's taking 2 black chicks to the hotel. LOL.
Bareback is not common at Scandallo (generally higher end clubs have fewer offers of BBFS because girls of that caliber don't need to). That said Mark did get one offer which he declined.
Recall that Mia, the unicorn 10, and I had put off our Sat date till Sunday when it is slow. We WhatsApp and set a time and are planning on Japanese. I think I will take a little nap around 3:30 but as I settle in I see her text "I'm sorry but I don't think we can go tonight". Dagger thru my fucking heart. And Mark is super bummed because he was really looking forward to her friend Manu, having gotten previously cock blocked by his Fatal Attraction girl at Casarao.
I'm not quite ready to punt so I tell Mia I am very sad and maybe we could just not go all night. Or go earlier or later. Just groping at straws here when she says OK as long as we are done before 8:30 she can come on over!
I think "woohoo" but feel a bit sorry for Mark as Mia says Manu cannot come. But shortly she texts and asks do I want her to bring another friend for Mark. I doubt this will work out as Mark has narrow taste but when she texts a pic that could pass for her sister it's on! (an 8. 5 to Mia's 10).
They are just going to come to the hotel and come to our rooms. But in a flash of brilliance I say let's have a fiesta in my room so Mark and his girl can get comfortable. So I order a bottle of champagne to be sent up.
The girls arrive about 1/2 hour later looking lovely. Mia has worn a conservative sun dress but she still looks awesome. Fernanda is wearing a tight two piece like you might see in the club and Mark is slain. Even better than her pics.
No issues from the front desk at the hotel, we just meet our girls and head up to my room. It has a little seating area with a couch so we order some finger foods and pair it with the champagne. It's quite a fun little party and very comfortable so we order another bottle (a very reasonable 90 R) and continue chatting and listening to music. What a great idea the party was. We end up spending 1. 5 hours before departing to our private fuck fests.
Mia and I are so much more comfortable night two. Don't get me wrong; night one was amazing but this far exceeded that. And I can partially thank Mark for that because he is the DATY master and had coached me up a bit.
You see, on night one during the debrief he had told me about the DATY challenge he undertook with Gabi. She had said she never cums from DATY and he said "challenge accepted!" he worked her for a full half hour and she had a crashing O and that gratefulness that comes with it. Patient man that he is, he won the challenge and was amply rewarded. Kudos!
So over picanha the night after Gabi, I had asked him his three best DATY tips and those came in handy with Mia. I class myself as pretty good at it, but adding in one trick and a lot of patience I took Mia to that crashing O and it was legendary. She too seemed surprised and amazed and that look afterwards is priceless. I've only seen it before twice with other girls. When you give them the O they didn't think they could get without a vibrator, the look they give you (Something between serenity, bliss, and gratefulness.) is absolutely priceless. And so is the next hour that follows!
As Mia positions to give me the reward BJ I continue to be struck by her amazing body. You know how pretty much every girl has a little stomach pooch when sitting down. Even the pretty slim ones. She has ZERO stomach pooch and gorgeous high Cee cup tits and I just marvel. It doesn't seem possible. Yet here she is in my bed. With my dick in her mouth. WTF?
For the BJ I am much more comfortable giving her direction, as she is not a pro in this department, despite or maybe because of her beauty. So as she licks balls I show her how to use the flat of her tongue not the tip. And how to suck them. She is careful not too suck too hard and looks to me with her doe eyes for approval, which I graciously give. Sim! Gostoso!
I also show her how to harmonica and that is fucking amazing. She has thick beautiful lips and the feeling is electric. The visuals of her sucking my dick as absolutely legendary.
We have some rather amazing sex in all the positions and the mirror on the closet provides some great visuals. She loves to look at herself being fucked in doggie and just seeing that alone is completely arousing. Plus her perfect butt in doggie is to die for. I grab that Brasileira bunda and fuck like my life depends on it!
As my ninth fuck of the week (7 girls) I am a tough finish. We try tittie fucking with lube which clearly she hasn't done before but she catches on quickly and pushes her tits together. It feels amazing skin to skin and I build some.
For the final finish we go to her sucking balls and me jacking. And that feels great and goes on forever. She's taking a little break from sucking and is just slip sliding my highly sloppy balls with her hand, amazing face nearby, giving me the bedroom eyes.
She's actually enjoying watching my dick get harder and harder; and when I shoot out a nice load, she laughs and smiles and enjoys watching me shoot. Ah what a girl! Minha namorada (until Manuella arrives from Rio on Wednesday. Kkkkkk).
Mark and his hottie return, nice time had by all and we kiss them goodbye at their Uber. SP totally rules. Best girls worldwide by a mile!
Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.
Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?
I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2895506]Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.
Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?
I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.[/QUOTE]It's better to check with the owner if you are not sure. Just ask owner if you can have co-worker or friend to visit you. Some apartments are lose. But there are some apartments have security like prison and it can be very strict, especially the ones that owned by corporation, that you can't bring unregistered guest and you may only be allowed to registered one guest for your entire stay.
I don't think your info about hotel is accurate. It's been discussed frequently
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2895506]Planning a trip to SP and perusing through the thread I gather that there are very few hotels that are girl friendly. I am leaning towards AirbnB with a booking for two adults.
Anyone used AirbnB before at SP that has any issues with bringing in girls?
I figured since my booking is for two adults that, bringing in a girl should not be a problem.[/QUOTE]I think you have it backwards. I have never been to a hotel in Brasil that is not girl friendly. You should book a two person room so there is no question. A couple years back I had hotels want me to register my girl but last couple times, including this week, no discussion — just rock on up to room together.
[QUOTE=CoolGregg;2895319]
Last option was to try TIM. It worked. Bought prepaid 54 gig for 1 month for 110 Reals. [/QUOTE]Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2895825]Hey man, did this TIM location ask for your original passport? I went to two near where I stay and they couldn't sell me SIMs without my physical passport.[/QUOTE]From what I remember they wanted to see my original passport (at Shopping Iguatemi).
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2895554]I think you have it backwards. I have never been to a hotel in Brasil that is not girl friendly. You should book a two person room so there is no question. A couple years back I had hotels want me to register my girl but last couple times, including this week, no discussion just rock on up to room together.[/QUOTE]Thank you Steve maybe I did get it backwards. So if I am hearing it right, hotels in Sao Paulo are okay to bring it girls. I just need to make sure my booking is for two persons?
Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!
I have been reading (and over-posting questions) in anticipation of my first visit to Brazil.
I got in yesterday, and it rained so fucking hard there was no doubt that I am not in Kansas any more. I had to do a work dinner, so decided the fun would begin today.
I got up and walked around my neighborhood. Stopped in at a grocery store, grabbed a coxinha at a cafe and tried to exchange $. No dice with the photocopied passport. But that's ok. I was able to get out $400 brl from an ATM. I think I will probably stick to paying with my card to avoid the cumulative fees from all the ATM withdrawals it would take to party right.
I decided to keep it local and start in the middle ground to get a sense of what I can expect this week. My apartment is very near several high end clinicas and Bomboa 222.
I sent Whatsapp messages to Taj Mahal and Lotus to check their line up. They both sent through lists of ladies who looked way too good to be true. I used Google Translate to ask if any spoke English. Taj said they all spoke some. Lotus said that only one girl named Ipanema did. Her photos were pretty spectacular and didn't look overly photoshopped. She was also available right then, so I booked it and called an Uber for what should have been a 15 min ride.
It was a 40 min ride. Holy fuck the side street traffic is no joke here.
Anyhow, I got there and the guy behind the desk took me straight to a room. A bed, a chair and a bathroom. All super clean and new feeling. 10 min went by and I was thinking maybe I was supposed to shower or something, but I didn't want to do anything until I saw her.
She finally came in and oh lord. This girl is gorgeous. A beautiful face, flawless skin, classy black lingerie. I was definitely expecting something a little rougher around the edges. She looks like the photos massage parlors in the states use as bait and switch photos.
She does not actually speak English.
That's fine, because at this point, I am willing to communicate entirely by smoke signals to keep her in the room. I shower off while she lays out her kit of supplies, and then she offers a massage. It's clear she has taken at least one massage class, but also clear that she isn't here to give me a back rub. She got hallway up my body before the flip, and she went pretty directly into a really nice BBBJ. She wasn't rushing, but she wasn't teasing too much either. The cover eventually went on, and into CG. Not necessarily GFE, but way more passionate than some of the mechanical service I have had elsewhere. Ended finishing in doggy with her laughing that she could feel the "bons pulsos".
I couldn't get enough of her ass, and was a little dismayed that I popped so quickly. She said she was going to take a shower and I almost got dressed, but decided to see if she would spend any more time with extra massage until the hour was up. Much to my surprise, she got out of the shower and told me to hop in, rinse off and we would try for #2. I was absolutely expecting her to see me to the door.
Ultimately, no amount of stroking or ball sucking was going to get me back in action in time, but I appreciated the effort and enthusiasm.
I'd say she was a girl next door 8. 5. No tattoos, gorgeous black hair, flawless tanned skin with nice tan lines and no stretch marks that I saw. Thin waist, natural cups, and an ass that wouldn't quit. But most of all. Her attitude was off the charts. She made me believe she wanted to be there. She was the college girl you never landed. Well. The one I never did. For 780 brl all-in, I would be happy just going back to her every day.
Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbóbora are both on my list.
I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
Tomorrow, I guess I will try to pick up some tadalafil from a pharmacy too.
Time to go get some sushi.
Which neighborhoods and areas would you recommend or avoid staying in? I was thinking to book an airbnb near Scandallo since it might help avoid traffic.
Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.
Don't see too many reports on freelancers or working girls on the street, if it exists at all here.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2896051]Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!
Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbbora are both on my list.
I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. [b]I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for.[/b] But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
Tomorrow, I guess I will try to pick up some tadalafil from a pharmacy too.
Time to go get some sushi.[/QUOTE]Wrong, there is some dancing, not required and very little of it.
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2896051][b]Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.[/b][/QUOTE]Naw, Naw, No, You go to Scandallo and [b]Commit to getting that Bunda!![/b] Lol
[b]This I Command!!![/b] [url]https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2[/url]
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2896051]Ok, well, that was a hell of a welcome to Brazil!
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I'd say she was a girl next door 8. 5. No tattoos, gorgeous black hair, flawless tanned skin with nice tan lines and no stretch marks that I saw. Thin waist, natural cups, and an ass that wouldn't quit. But most of all. Her attitude was off the charts. She made me believe she wanted to be there. She was the college girl you never landed. Well. The one I never did. For 780 brl all-in, I would be happy just going back to her every day.
Now that I have a baseline. I wish I had another six weeks here and a better paying job. I think tomorrow I will explore the Moema area with the regular clinicas. Prime and Abbbora are both on my list.
I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
[/QUOTE]Sounds like a great 1st day. Yeah, one of the things that turns me on about SP girls is that they remind me of the girls I went to high school and college with GONE BAD! KKK. I LOVE THEM.
Good luck with your plan to check out Scandallo and just have dinner. If you liked the look and performance of your afternoon high end clinica girl just wait until you are at this exciting, world class bordello / nightclub surrounded by 150 girls of which at least 35% are just what you are looking for whatever that is. I assume you read Steve's report. KKK. Bring your credit card and fuck it, have a blast. It's money well spent. And you can worry about paying it back after you return home. KKK.
That said, Bomboa is a very friendly, nice place to go as well. It is my 2nd favorite boate in the world. But I wouldn't miss Scandallo for all the pussy in China. Rock on!
A. H.
Does anyone know how clinica and chicas split the money, say I pay 200 R, how much goes to the gal?
[QUOTE=Robotron;2896113]Which neighborhoods and areas would you recommend or avoid staying in? I was thinking to book an airbnb near Scandallo since it might help avoid traffic.
Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.
Don't see too many reports on freelancers or working girls on the street, if it exists at all here.[/QUOTE]I usually go to Scandello solo. You don't need to drink anything or smoke anything or even get a booth to attract the women. All the women are working girls. Take a shower, smell good and dress nice (I wear a pair of jeans and a polo) and be nice. Just use the consumable part for the girls drinks if you want. Walk around and talk to a few to get an idea of how it works and then make your choice. The girls are used to foreigners using Google translate so make sure you use it.
Good luck and report back!!
[QUOTE=GattoRojo;2896051]
I'm also torn between Scandallo and Bomboa. I can walk to the latter. I am not really a dance-club kind of guy either, which seems to be the vibe that Scandallo is celebrated for. But then again, I am here, and it's the legendary spot. Not going seems like a missed opportunity. Maybe I will go to Scandallo and commit to just getting dinner there.
.[/QUOTE]Great first experience. This is why I love Brazil and prefer it over anywhere else.
You are in SP. You might as well go. Fuck the money part. Money will come and you can pay it back. The dance club vibe is in the dance club. They have an outside patio which is way more chill and relaxed and that is my preference.
Good luck and report back!!
[QUOTE=Robotron;2896113]
Any experiences at Scandallo solo? Not big on smoking or drinking myself and based on reports it seems that's how you attract women with the name brand stuff and having a booth. Planning on visiting in June, and wondering if it'll be awkward if I went alone and got a booth for myself.[/QUOTE]I will be going solo (thanks to the encouragement of the regulars here) in the next day or three and will report back.
As for getting an Airbnb, I do t know what your length of stay is, but Scandallo is pretty far from the rest of the clinicas. I chose a spot closer to those because I am hoping to get in several sessions while here, and Scandallo is going to necessarily be a one time splurge.
[QUOTE=DonMoscow;2896202]Does anyone know how clinica and chicas split the money, say I pay 200 R, how much goes to the gal?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I posted about the cut on atleas 2 different reports. RTFF.
[QUOTE=Krilimag;2896005]Thank you Steve maybe I did get it backwards. So if I am hearing it right, hotels in Sao Paulo are okay to bring it girls. I just need to make sure my booking is for two persons?[/QUOTE]Correct. Many hotels you can just bring your girl right on up. But several have made her register at the front desk. Don't worry this is normal and they do it multiple times a day.
[QUOTE=Robotron;2896113]Any experiences at Scandallo solo?[/QUOTE]Probably 50% if not higher are Solo Mongers. Not an issue at all. Sure, you will find groups of 2 or more but it's not an advantage or disadvantage unless you need a wingman to have fun. None, absolutely none, of the Ladies care if you are alone / solo. I tend to think women approach Solo guys a little more! Just go relaxed and have fun.
Your eyes will lead you one. Talk to a few or many. Get WhatsApp/phone numbers from the ones you may want to plan to see outside and or at your hotel room (especially if you're staying in SP over the weekend/Sunday).
Then pick a winner to take up to the inhouse rooms to pop your Scandallo cherry.
[B]This I Command!!![/B] [URL]https://youtu.be/ljQ76hjwyzQ?si=iDU3qw8txzisKSk2[/URL].
Good luck, I look forward to reading about your experience at Scandallo!!
Obviously I would have been happy to see Mia again after our little in room fiesta. I mean who doesn't want to repeat with the perfect girl. But I'the already arranged to bring some sand to the beach (Manu from Rio to fly in) as I had no idea I'the meet a stunning keeper. And I knew I'the be satisfied with the Boate action (6 girls in three days). So Manu flew in from Rio as prearranged and absolutely no regrets. Here's how it went down and proof that mixing in Seeking Arrangements can add good spice to the lineup.
Had some odd timing with my São Paulo visit where I was going to be here for a few days, then away for a few days, and then back again. There is this amazing girl Manuella with whom I had an awesome Seeking date in Rio. A true 9. 5 and ton of fun. So I am considering taking sand to the beach (Rio to SP) because she's been staying in touch over the last year (and saying when can we meet again.
I'm a bit torn because SP is so target rich but damn we had chemistry. I finally settle on the plan to spend the first four days in SP at the Boates (6 girls it turns out) and then fly Manu from Rio to SP for a few days when we return. I think she prob won't be down for such a short visit but she gets someone to cover her shift and we plan the trip. She had given me an amazing price for our date in Rio and same here. Let's just say I had her for 2. 5 days for the price of an hour or two with a Scandallo girl. (And she is equally hot. She would slay at Scandallo.
A week or so prior to the date she asks me to send the money and scam alert goes on high. I tell her I never do that and she backs off. But now every time we communicate I am wondering in the back of my mind. And in fact day before the trip she asks if I can send Uber money. Again red flag, but I decide to do it. If I'm out $40 then there are tons of chicks I can see including Mia the TEN, so not sweating it.
Turns out to be legit and she actually shows! We have a fuck of a time finding each other but soon I see this tanned goddess approaching and I know it's her. She throws her arms around me and kisses me and says I missed you so much baby. It's so amazing and affectionate and I'm like how the fuck could we have one three hour date and just fall back into it. But here she is!
To recap, Manu is a super slim girl with an amazing ass and well done fake tits that look perfect on her frame. Her face is spectacular and her long wavy hair past her ass absolutely to die for. Add a thousand watt smile and you have Manu. Best of all, however is she is sooooo affectionate. More on that soon.
She's very confident and somewhat dominant, which is kinda a refreshing change. She grabs my hand and we walk hand in hand to the Uber. She holds my hand in her lap all the way to the hotel. Ok baby. I am all yours!
At the hotel we lose no time and are making out on the bed instantly. She kisses passionately like Brasileiras do and tongue fucks me as I grow hard. She is on top grinding and there is no question we are a couple of horny bunnies and it's on from the get go.
I won't recap the whole thing because we fucked five times in two days and honestly it's all a bit of a blur so I will just hit some highlights.
I think the first round highlight is that I gave her a massive DATY orgasm. If you followed my São Paulo antics you know my buddy Mark has been coaching up my DATY game and I brought it down on Manu. Spending a good 20 minutes and some gspot magic also (she likes circles) she has a very physical O. The only way to describe it is like a paint roller coming down from inside and squeezing your finger out. LOL. Most girls clamp around your finger at orgasm but I had the paint roller thing happen with a girl in Cinci and it's the most remarkable thing. Anyhow, mission accomplished.
That night we have the most spectacular sushi dinner at a restaurant only a block away and have a lovely bottle of wine as well. We eat till we are stuffed and it's it USD $70 including the wine. I love Brazil! And then of course we fuck again! Eight hours in and two shots in the rearview. This girl is a tiger.
As I write this I am reminded of the things I love most about this girl. And one is affection. At dinner that first night we must have kissed at least ten times. She just gets this look of lust in her eyes and purses her lips and we meet halfway across the table for a lovely kiss. Right there in the restaurant. At lunch she's saying how much she loves my eyes. And she just wants to look into them, which we do for long periods. Hers a lovely liquid chocolate. She will softly kiss or stroke my arm or tongue fuck me or grab my ass in public when the mood strikes her. She's a hot as fuck vixen.
The other thing I love about her is the way she interacted with my friend Mark. We were going down for a drink and I asked if she minded if my friend Mark joined and she was like "why would I mind? Of course. " And throughout the couple days, yes we had lots of private time, but we also hung out the three of us together and laughed and drank and just had a blast. She's just a free spirit. When Mark left for the airport he came by our room to say bye. She sprang from the bed and gave him a huge hug and bom voyage. Her affection could light up the world.
Second day I have work and she stays behind and goes to the pool. Hard to keep a straight face when she sends me a bikini shot in the middle of a meeting. Fuck she has a rockin body.
Don't quite recall the afternoon sex but that's not because it wasnt good. Just not AS good. But important ground work was laid. I am dying to fuck her bare (I am smitten with her!) but know that's a tough nut to crack. Nonetheless in the heat of the moment I make a half hearted attempt which she rebuffs sweetly. As I grab the condom I say "maybe later" and she says yes maybe later. Hmmm interesting.
And I def recall that she strips off her dress in one fluid motion and has no panties nor did she wear any the entire trip!
Later that night, we have some superb Italian and a wonderful Malbec which we both adore. Many cross table kisses and I'm getting a chub knowing she has no panties on just inches away. Back in the room it is just the most lovely chemistry. I had given her a back massage on our first date which she adores so I reprise that. It's kinda a secret weapon and gets girls horny as fuck.
Stripping off her dress, she's buck naked and I get to my undies for the massage. I grind her ass crack with my dick as I give a legit back massage. Then I get my undies off and start on her ass. I am licking the backs of her legs and massaging her ass and dropping my tongue into her sweet juices from behind from time to time.
I straddle her again and start massage, working my way down to her ass. As I grind her ass crack with my dick I push it down to her pussy opening and say I will just touch it. But soon she is grinding in a circle and starting to inch my dick inside her. Before long I am fully inserted bareback and it's on! Love that SHE did it not me. I just had to make the opportunity!
OMG. No words for bareback with this goddess. Just absolutely epic. We are drunk as fuck and so despite the ecstatic feel, we go forever, eventually collapsing from pure sweaty exhaustion. But what a fuckton of fun.
Third day is our last day and I have to work again. But when I come "home" she showers me in kisses, like the best girlfriend you could imagine. We decide to bop to the bar and split a Caipirinha so I can perform well —- she seems excited by this. And strategic guy I am, I sit next to her rather than across so she can access my mouth more easily. She says several times how much she will miss me and tongue fucks me heartily in front of everyone. Like five times. Love this girl.
Back in the room we cuddle briefly and we are making out like teenagers. She's one of those girls whose pussy is connected directly to her mouth because when she pulls off her dress she already has pussy juice dripping down her butt! From kissing! Love that.
I do her tits well with my mouth which she loves then some DATY and she tastes like a million bucks. I take off my undies and there is no hesitation this time. She pulls me towards her urgently and inserts my rock hard dick right inside her and gasps.
OMG. So amazing. We fuck in every position we can think of but the Steve is the ticket. I'the been teaching her English so she is yelling out "Fuck me teacher!" As I pound away. The sex is just too fucking good. I want to do more but I feel the build and pullout and shoot a shattering load that hits just below her tits. Wow.
The next couple hours are kiss and spoon and cuddle. She gives me an amazing fairwell kiss at my Uber and turns away with tears in her eyes. Me too! It was awesome. I hope to fly her somewhere soon.
Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks!
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2896458]Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks![/QUOTE]Although I paid cash, I asked this question when I was there in December last year.
They said there is no markup for paying with credit cards.
At that time, entry fee was R500, exit fee was R300 when taking out a girl outside.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2896458]Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks![/QUOTE]No markup on room or entry. But 10% markup if you pay your girl that way. They take it at the hotel desk and give the girl a receipt which presumably she cashes out later. They are very discreet. Scandallo shows up as SC or something and hotel as HM.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2896458]Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks![/QUOTE]As I checked my record, I actually paid an entry fee and a girl's exit fee using a credit card.
I paid the girl with cash. You can take the answer by Steve 9696 below in terms of payment for girls.
Look, some days are better than others.
I had work stuff until 3 and was able to pull myself away from my colleagues in anticipation of hitting up a "regular clinica" in Moema. I hopped into an Uber and as we headed that way, it started to rain kind of hard. I sent a few WhatsApp messages to some of the clinicas to check on the line ups.
Abbóbora didn't reply, and none of the Spa Moah girls looked like my jam. Prime responded, but only with a list of names (I remembered too late reading here that they don't send photos.).
I was right near Prime anyhow, so I headed that way, but at this stage, with the rain and the back and forth, I was starting to not feel it. It happens. Sometimes it just doesn't feel right, and I have learned to listen to that feeling.
But fuck it, here I am, so I head down Ave. Iraí, and where I am pretty sure is the door, I see an Asian looking dude all in black standing around outside. He looked like a bouncer, and I figured that was the spot. And RIGHT as I stepped close to him, my fucking foot slips on the wet pavement and I do a little clown dance to avoid falling ony ass. He looks startled and says something in Portuguese that probably means, "watch your step, you fucking gringo. " (but he didn't say it aggressively or anything, just surprised) and in my embarrassment, I walk past him and catch a glimpse of a chica in a green silk thing through the open doorway as I pass. Yep, definitely the spot.
But now I have walked to the corner like an asshole and while I don't really care about what a bouncer (or maybe just some random dude.) thinks of me when I will never see him again, my brain was just fully out by that point.
So I called another Uber and came back to my place. I went for a quick walk and picked up some Cialis / Tadalafila (so cheap!) and will regroup.
[QUOTE=JohnJones22;2896458]Hey guys, sorry if dumb question, does anyone know if there is an extra percentage charge when using credit card to pay for entry fee / girl / room? In other countries I've seen 5-10% markups, just wanted to know what the deal was with scandallo. Thanks![/QUOTE]Yeah, I also don't recall seeing additional Scandallo fees on credit card statements or receipts. They use an innocuous name for the charges.
I prefer to pay for scandal garotas at the end of our session in cash. So I don't pay upfront by card.
Some chicas will whip out the PIX terminal to offer another way to pay.
One time, in Casero my drunk ass nearly did a swipe in her PIX terminal. We were waiting an hour for a room but somewhere deep in the recesses of the brain, monger logic kicked in. If I swipe the card in her PIX it could block the ATM withdrawal I planned for daytime fun in Moema clinicas. That's it, the only reason didn't swipe, it might cut down on the number of Brazilian threesomes to pay in cash.
At the Scandallo second-floor cashier's station, I snap a quick foto of the Garota white card with the yellow sticky note. It has her full name scrawled on it.
Damn just remembered how much fun, I had flirting with the chubby blonde hair cashier on the second floor.
I'm standing there with two hot mulatas in each arm. Both resemble a curvy Bruna Marquezine. They are wet, and primed for the threesome. The IoP is going strong. While standing there with them the chubby blonde cashier and I are flirting, brief kisses, more fun dirty talking, and paying for the room. Hmmmm, A monger vision flashes before me. Why not have two hot mulatas and add a cute blonde on her knees slurping away with two mulatas. This is all I can think of now, standing in line, already with two hot garotas.
Well its fking scandallo!
So I grab the two Bruna Marquezine mulatas, we head back down the flight of stairs, up the elevators again, to find a deepthroat sloppy sucking blonde willing to be on her knees slurping away as an added to our threesome mix. Of course the blonde will need to lick the other two chicas too and any other combos. Its epic to be in place where you can have a damn good time.
For messy threesomes mixes in Scandallo, request one of the larger rooms. Those small ones near the elevator suck for Three's company.
Look, some days are better than others.
I had work stuff until 3 and was able to pull myself away from my colleagues in anticipation of hitting up a "regular clinica" in Moema. I hopped into an Uber and as we headed that way, it started to rain kind of hard. I sent a few WhatsApp messages to some of the clinicas to check on the line ups.
Abbóbora didn't reply, and none of the Spa Moah girls looked like my jam. Prime responded, but only with a list of names (I remembered too late reading here that they don't send photos.).
I was right near Prime anyhow, so I headed that way, but at this stage, with the rain and the back and forth, I was starting to not feel it. It happens. Sometimes it just doesn't feel right, and I have learned to listen to that feeling.
But fuck it, here I am, so I head down Ave. Iraí, and where I am pretty sure is the door, I see an Asian looking dude all in black standing around outside. He looked like a bouncer, and I figured that was the spot. And RIGHT as I stepped close to him, my fucking foot slips on the wet pavement and I do a little clown dance to avoid falling ony ass. He looks startled and says something in Portuguese that probably means, "watch your step, you fucking gringo. " (but he didn't say it aggressively or anything, just surprised) and in my embarrassment, I walk past him and catch a glimpse of a chica in a green silk thing through the open doorway as I pass. Yep, definitely the spot.
But now I have walked to the corner like an asshole and while I don't really care about what a bouncer (or maybe just some random dude.) thinks of me when I will never see him again, my brain was just fully out by that point.
So I called another Uber and came back to my place. I went for a quick walk and picked up some Cialis / Tadalafila (so cheap!) and will regroup.
[QUOTE=Tochka;2896525] I prefer to pay for scandal garotas at the end of our session in cash. So I don't pay upfront by card.
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I'm standing there with two hot mulatas in each arm. Both resemble a curvy Bruna Marquezine. They are wet, and primed for the threesome. The IoP is going strong. While standing there with them the chubby blonde cashier and I are flirting, brief kisses, more fun dirty talking, and paying for the room. Hmmmm, A monger vision flashes before me. Why not have two hot mulatas and add a cute blonde on her knees slurping away with two mulatas. This is all I can think of now, standing in line, already with two hot garotas.
For messy threesomes mixes in Scandallo, request one of the larger rooms. Those small ones near the elevator suck for Three's company.[/QUOTE]Cash is scarce when travelling and I do not like carrying a lot of it around with me, but credit is cheap and always available. So, I also charge a boate's cover / entrance fee, all drinks and or meals, plus the hotel room on my CC. (The hotel room is separately charged.) I do this at all SP Boates as well as the clinicas. I also pay all my boate girls AFTER our session is over. Always!
But sometimes I stick around the club and find another girl that turns me on and do a 2 fer (a 2nd session with a different girl). On a few rare occasions I have done threesomes as well, but not as often, as I prefer threesomes at my hotel with girls I know well. One time I even did the same girl twice. Yep, I took the same girl upstairs twice in one night! That happened only once when we continued to hang out together after our 1st tryst and started drinking (a fair amount) and then started playing around in the courtyard (a fair amount) and what can I say? She turned me on and made me want her AGAIN! KKK. What a night!
Anyway, I always bring enough cash to cover the most likely cost of one boate girl no matter what her price might be allowing for the possibility that the girl I want might be a Tier 1. So, I bring around 1200 BR cash with me for a night at a boate and usually I only use a portion of it. But sometimes when I indulge in a 2nd girl, I will find myself a little short. No problem. At the hotel front desk as we are waiting for a room assignment, I tell my girl, I will pay you later and I decline the hotel clerk's offer to put my girl's fee on my CC.
The girl and I go upstairs, and we boom boom. After our session is over, I give her what I owe her in full or I give her a what I can. If I am short, we go down to the hotel front desk arm in arm, happy happy. I charge the hotel bill to my CC, and I tell the hotel clerk to put the balance of whatever I owe my girl on my CC too. Two separate charges. This way I never pay in advance even when I am short of cash.
Was literally just there so take this as gospel. And don't think you won't put something on your card. It's so fucking addictive unless you bring $1000 in cash your going to end up caving and using your card. LOL. Mark and I are living proof!
Cover and drinks / food. No markup. Shows as SCD.
Hotel. No markup. Shows as H M.
Girls. 10% markup for card. Shows as PAG MM.
Have fun guys!
Back then Bradesco ATMs gave sizable amounts of cash without any ATM fees. However the shortage of cash now may be due to the high price of mongering in SP's high-end venues, so that Bradesco's 500+ dollars no longer keep you flush for long. I wonder how much mongers here are prepared to blow during a single Scandallo visit. 1000? Several thousand?
[QUOTE=XXL;2896558]Back then Bradesco ATMs gave sizable amounts of cash without any ATM fees. However the shortage of cash now may be due to the high price of mongering in SP's high-end venues, so that Bradesco's 500+ dollars no longer keep you flush for long. I wonder how much mongers here are prepared to blow during a single Scandallo visit. 1000? Several thousand?[/QUOTE]If your using Cash, there is fundamentally no constraint if you have the [U]right debit card[/U] that allows a Daily ATM Withdrawal of at least $500 USD / Euro or $1000 USD / Euro and No Fees
So based on rates described in posts on this informative forum most get quotes of $R800 to $R1000 (and tier 1 quotes to $R1500+) So lets take the middle ground of $R1000 for first round and if your capable of a second round in a single outing you're at least taking $R500(Entry)+$R1000 for a One&Done only round =$R1500 (if capable for second round total $2500 R) simple not complicated.
Generally, I carry $R2500 (Entry + Two ($R1000) rounds) + CC in case of break glass emergency.
If you're willing to pay more per session, then obviously you need to bring more cash or use other financial combinations.
If you are using Combination of Cash and CC (as some posters have already said a few posts down, when in a pinch) this will probably allow you to stretch out a little more than Cash Only. Now if you're using a Credit Card then probably the sky is the limit, you will deal with the pain later.
You have to set your budget and determine how many sessions. To determine how much cash to bring. Like the commercial says.
"What's In Your Wallet?" LOL!!
[QUOTE=Axel Heyst;2896535]Cash is scarce when travelling and I do not like carrying a lot of it around with me, but credit is cheap and always available. [/QUOTE]
Axel has it right!
Word of warning about cash. Normally I advise just pull what you need each day. But we had a problem with that this visit. We couldn't find a machine within 15 minutes walk (Moema) that would give more than 1000 R ($200) per transaction. You can run the card multiple times but it's a pain. And Santander wouldn't take my card.
So if you really really don't want to use credit because your wife is a hawk say, then maybe exchange some so you have a buffer. Getting cash each day was a pain in the ass.
When I look at a web site such as Photo Acompanhantes, the prices listed per hour show 150 to 300 BR. Yet when I read here I see that gals charge 1000 BR at Scandallo and 500 BR at Cssarao. Even the ugly gals on the street near Cassarao ask 300-500.
Why such price discrepancies with the internet prices? Is it gringo pricing?