Jakarta

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2867899]KC price 390,000 RP.possibly a happy hour price, not sure.

Selection like anywhere, some good, some not good although this can be reversed when you ask the Indonesian next to you who has a preference for light skinned fatties It's subjective!

Mama's at KC can have some attitude. KC has the distinction for OS of being the only place in Jakarta he has never failed to extract BBFS and as recently as 5 days ago. Rooms are quite nice. If KC not to your taste you can go to Sumo in next alley on one side or MTR II in next alley on the other side.

Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Kc has multiple tiers, I remember 390 k is the lowest which only few ladies sitting on the sofa and playing cell phones. You can ask mamasan bring down the ladies, which has higher price tag but much better quality. Upstairs is too dark to figure out the look.

If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.

[QUOTE=Medellin65;2872276]If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.[/QUOTE]Ok, let me take this one for the group: RTFF!

I'm booking my hotel in Jakarta as I type this. What's the best neighborhood to book it in to have access to the brothels and transportation?

[QUOTE=Medellin65;2872276]If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.[/QUOTE]Amazing!.

Indonesia is a very complex destination sir. Based on your questions, we are fearful that you may be disappointed if you come here. To maximise your enjoyment of your holiday, we would suggest to visit again, those countries of which you are already an expert.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2872976]I'm booking my hotel in Jakarta as I type this. What's the best neighborhood to book it in to have access to the brothels and transportation?[/QUOTE]Wrong thread but.....

Mangga Besar if you want the brothels. Any hotel for transportation. Lots of taxis waiting at every hotel. Learn how to say your hotel name the way an Indo person would say it in English.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2873028]Wrong thread but.....

Mangga Besar if you want the brothels. Any hotel for transportation. Lots of taxis waiting at every hotel. Learn how to say your hotel name the way an Indo person would say it in English.[/QUOTE]Thanks.

What about girl-friendly hotels? I've read that 90% of them in Jakarta, Bali and Bandung have no problem allowing you to bring a girl into your room to stay overnight, but that article was from 2015. Is this still the case? If not, what are the guest-friendly hotels? I'm looking to spend up to $150/ night.

[QUOTE=KopiHitam;2871991]Hakone Spa in Serpong looks to offer something different from the usual knock-shops about town.
Themed rooms are available for those with a fetish for certain locations.
A standard office, a jail and doctor's office are a few of the room options.
Anyone checked it out? A bit of a hike, but could be worth the trip purely for investigative purposes.[/QUOTE]I've not checked that one out, because it is very far from the tourist zones. However I've recently added a place to my Jakarta map [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] under a new section called PIK Venues:

Red Ruby Spa & Lounge.

Open 2022.10 am to 11 pm. Theme Rooms! (extra 100 k): Prison, Airplane First Class, Hospital, Classroom. FS 90 m is 900 k in theme room or Platinum service? 1050 k, Diamond 1450 k.

I'm on the ground in Jakarta in a few days!

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2873206]Thanks.

What about girl-friendly hotels? I've read that 90% of them in Jakarta, Bali and Bandung have no problem allowing you to bring a girl into your room to stay overnight, but that article was from 2015. Is this still the case? If not, what are the guest-friendly hotels? I'm looking to spend up to $150/ night.[/QUOTE]You would have to search out the Sharia hotels to find one who would protest about hookers onsite.

The only issue with Bali is that at higher end chains, mom and pop tourists don't want to see grandpa's with tables of 19 yo hookers playing in the pool around their kids. Behind closed bars, it's no holds barred.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2873206]What about girl-friendly hotels? [/QUOTE]Like my previous reply I said wrong thread but....

Here are nearly 2000 posts about Jakarta hotels. I think you can be pretty certain the hotels discussed in this thread are girl friendly. Never even crosses my mind when I book Jakarta hotels and I've stayed from hotels ranging from Mercure to Shangri-La.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2450-Jakarta-Hotels

Hello Gents -.

Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.

However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.

Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.

United1,

I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.

So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.

[QUOTE=Medellin65;2872276]If possible I would like some info.

1) Is 1/1.2 million enough for a decent LT?

2) what are the areas with the highest concentration of places to fish for girls?

3) do you have any suggestions for a good girl friendly hotel where you can bring girls without problems?

4) Are there strip clubs or just clubs with live music?

And finally.

5) are there massages with FS? Which ones and at what costs?

Any help and suggestions are welcome and welcome. I have planned my first trip to Jakarta early 2024. I am an expert in South East Asia, I have traveled to Vietnam (Saigon), many times to Thai (Bangkok) and many times to Phils (Angeles City), but Indonesia is completely new to me. My budget for 2 weeks of holiday will be around 150/170 euros per day (flight and hotel already paid for), I hope it is enough for a "full immersion" in Jakarta xxx.[/QUOTE]I remember years and years ago I was in Medan and my memory of it was that there weren't many attractive chicks. But decades on, I've banged some indo chicks, mainly in kaual lumpur, and in the days before they cleaned up Geylang, a lot of the indo street walkers were hot. I too wish to visit Jakarta one day to partake in all this. I've read so many reports, on places like maliaboro and what not. And with the exchange rate, sounds pretty cheap too. But alas, I need pharma aid to get it up. And keep it up. I wonder if that stuff is as accessible in Indoesia as it is in Thailand.

I RTFF. Thanks yall for the information. I've been all over the dodgy places in Indo, ex military yada yada yada, used to speak fluent Bahasa 30+ years ago. Anyway I have never stepped foot on Java so am looking forward to it. I know many Aussies, fellow Norwegians and Swedes who live here so it should be a fun trip. I love Indonesian food and have cooked it since I was 14 or so.

GADO GADO FTW, Beef rendang is heaven (any recommendations for A+ Beef Rendang would be welcomed).

Will check out BATS, other recommendations and report back as I usually do. Special thanks to OS, Banana Boi (always value), Raksopheni and others for great information. I'm finding this is one of the better threads on ISG, with more facts, more fun, less BS and less ego. I am very keen to see what $200 buys at Malio and Kings X.

I'm staying at the Grand Mercure for a week which is 6-7 km from BATS etc but I guess it will be ok for 8 nights in JK.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2850560]It's weird, but the older we get, the more picky and blase we become. This is counter-intuitive, I mean the older and saggier we become we should be ever more grateful for any morsel that lands near our plate. Maybe we're just spoiled by Jakarta, I don't know.

I find I can't even be bothered with a re-match now, no matter how hot the girl may be. I met this 25 yo a few weeks back, absolutely gorgeous, lovely smile, great personality, knew how to crack a joke and more importantly when to laugh at my jokes. Perhaps her only drawback was she had a kid and her boobs wouldn't have been as pert as they once were but still, definitely an 8. 5.

But best of all she was an absolute polecat in the sack. I mean she was into it all, the filthier the better, and she loved it. I couldn't believe it, here's a combo that if I had met 30 years ago in my hometown I would have fallen head over heels in love with, promising marriage, the works, I'd have been walking on the clouds for a week after.

We exchanged numbers and on the way home I was thinking when I could next meet up with her and all the things I'd do. The next morning, however, I'm getting text messages, when can we meet again? And what will we do? But I'm like, "Meh, I've been there, done that. Sure, it was great but do I really need a repeat?

The messages got so desperate, so pleading that I eventually blocked her.

I mean who needs that at our time of life? Am I right?[/QUOTE]I fall in love all the time in Thailand. Like 10 times a day and especially for whichever glamour SnFs me that day. Then I'm off. Very fussy with women overall these days (50's I am).

Love some girls in SOi 6 Pattaya. Do them once or twice LT and it is Adios Muchacas.

Love is a state between lust and boredom.

I love early-mid 30 ladies, MILFS but the quality around the globe seems to have headed way south as CPI has driven perceived prices way higher.

I'm here later tonight to try some sweet Indo pussy. Its all an exciting new venture. My 1st time in Java. Safe, cheap and full of hottees.

YMMV.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2873915]But alas, I need pharma aid to get it up. And keep it up. I wonder if that stuff is as accessible in Indoesia as it is in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Always best to get some real drugs at home and bring with you. Don't always trust the street stuff as most are fake and some have been known to contain toxic fillers and made guys very sick often requiring hospitalization. The local Indo drug stores should be fine with real stuff but unsure if doctor RX needed or if they can sell you without it.

[QUOTE=Sharka;2873968]Always best to get some real drugs at home and bring with you. Don't always trust the street stuff as most are fake and some have been known to contain toxic fillers and made guys very sick often requiring hospitalization. The local Indo drug stores should be fine with real stuff but unsure if doctor RX needed or if they can sell you without it.[/QUOTE]In Jakarta, I had no problem buying Lilly Cialis 20 MG at Kimia Farma without a prescription.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2873865]United1,

I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.

So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.[/QUOTE]Correct, you don't have to register if you stay less than 90 days. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card in your mobile phone from abroad.

[QUOTE=United1;2873641]Hello Gents -.

Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.

However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.

Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.[/QUOTE]If you stay less than 90 days, you don't have to register your IMEI. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card.

I am lucky that I still have an Indonesian SIM card and mobile phone, dating from before those measures. I left those at a friend and left some money to top up the card every now and then to keep it "alive". So, when I'm in Indonesia I use those to tetter(?) with my foreign mobile phone.

Since you are a frequent visitor, I think you know somebody that can help you to purchase a cheap second hand mobile phone and a local SIM card on her / his name. And do as I do.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2874019]If you stay less than 90 days, you don't have to register your IMEI. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card.

I am lucky that I still have an Indonesian SIM card and mobile phone, dating from before those measures. I left those at a friend and left some money to top up the card every now and then to keep it "alive". So, when I'm in Indonesia I use those to tetter(?) with my foreign mobile phone.

Since you are a frequent visitor, I think you know somebody that can help you to purchase a cheap second hand mobile phone and a local SIM card on her / his name. And do as I do.[/QUOTE]

Alternatively, just buy a cheap Chinese phone in Indonesia. People get a brand new phone with brand new battery and dual simcard slots for less than IDR2m.

For second-hand there are a lot of them available for less than IDR1m.

Getting Indonesian phone no need to register, no need to top up (unless you need it), no need to worry about expiry date of the IMEI registration.

[QUOTE=United1;2873641]last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.
[/QUOTE]How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2874060]How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.[/QUOTE]Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2874060]How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.[/QUOTE]You can easily get a very cheap SIM card at the airport with unlimited data allowance. I find this is always the best solution when staying for a few weeks and avoids a lot of trouble. It is important to get the people who sell you the SIM card to install it to, and to test it before you leave. It takes them 5 min, whereas for you it might be very tricky. Also make sure to get one with fast internet speed and where the speed doesn't decline after a certain amount of time. I have a phone with two SIM card slots so I can keep my SIM card from my home country running for incoming calls and texts, and route everything else through the local SIM card.

Registering a foreign phone is cumbersome and takes time. SIM cards for foreigners are not easily available apart from at the airport.

However, for MiChat, only a proper local phone and SIM card will work. I have the impression that MiChat is useful for mongering in places like Yogyakarta. It has a function that enables you to see other people with MiChat nearby - including service providers. But I don't have the impression that MiChat is very useful in Jakarta.

Thanks Mr. GB for your postage. I sure you are correct. I am just a bit freaked out when Telkosel service staffs told me 'this is the last time we can dos it for you".

Did you use a Indo SIM card? Or you using home country SIM with Roaming.

I am curious. But again cheers and thanks.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2873865]United1,

I went to Jakarta this October 2023 for 3 weeks. In Jakarta airport. On arrival. My phone app based customs declaration card specifically said NO IMEI REGISTRATION FOR 30 DAY stays.

So unless it just changed. The VOA less than 30 day Visa arrivals don't need the IMEI registration.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Menteng;2874015]Correct, you don't have to register if you stay less than 90 days. But you can't use an Indonesian SIM card in your mobile phone from abroad.[/QUOTE]Hi Menteng. Thanks for your commments. But whys do you say can't use INdo SIM card in mobile phone abroad? I have been doing that last 4-5 times to Jakarta. It always works. I go to Telkosel at Mal Ambassador and they give me cheap card and register my IMEI.

But are you sayings if you spend MORE than 90 days in Indonesia (total, including in and out) then it doesn't work, must register?

Sorry if I am confused.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2874063]Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?[/QUOTE]Smartfren is a company that circumvents the need for IMEI registration.

I've been using a Smartfren SIM in my unregistered overseas bought modern phone for the past 2 years without issue.

I bought my SIM from a counter in ITC Kuningan (Level 3 or 4, wherever the all the phone counters are), but they're available all over the place.

As mentioned, get the staff to install it for you.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2873916]

I'm staying at the Grand Mercure for a week which is 6-7 km from BATS etc but I guess it will be ok for 8 nights in JK.

YMMV.[/QUOTE]I stayed there for 4 days in August after a last-minute change in travel plans brought me back to Jakarta at 9 pm on a Tuesday night.

My fiancé recommended it. I thought it was very nice and much less expensive than Shangri-la and Mulia where I stayed the other 18 nights.

Is it worth it to check out the two red light districts in southern Jakarta (Jalan Falatehan I and Melawai), or should I stick to the northern JK red light district (Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta) and the nearby brothels (Classic, Emporium, Malio, etc.)?

I'm asking because I only have 3 nights in Jakarta, and want to use my time wisely.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2874060]How does this make any sense at all? You always get ripped off when buying SIM cards in airports. Anyone know the reasoning behind this change? I always just went to Grand Indonesia to buy my SIM cards.[/QUOTE]BB,
My understanding is you can buy the SIM anywhere.
However, the IMEI Registeration must be done at the Airport.

The IMEI registration office is in Terminal 3 of Soekarno-Hatta Airport on the Ground Floor.
FYI - you MAY be asked a couple of questions about the phone - where did you buy and the market value of your phone.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2874063]Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?[/QUOTE]I am not aware of any downside except for the following:

+ Sometimes there are 5 to 7 people in line and only ONE officer at the desk. You will have to wait 1.5 hours for the IMEI Registeration to be completed.

+ Each passenger is allowed to Register two devices only.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=KopiHitam;2874197]Smartfren is a company that circumvents the need for IMEI registration. <snip> [/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip! I will try this on my next visit.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=United1;2873641]Hello Gents -.

Does anyones have the information about IMEI registration for cell phone. I come to Jakarta at least 3-4 times a year. I will buy the Tourist SIM card at Telkosel in mall. And they will register my phone using my passport info. I usually stay for few weeks (under 30 days) in town and then leave.

However, last time the Telkosel staffs told met his is the LAST time they can register for me. And next time I MUST REGISTER at airport. This seems very very strange and no make sense. Because I am only buying a Tourist SIM card and I am leaving the country and then returning again.

Have any of your frequent travelers to Indonesia has this issue? Please advice. Thank you. I am sorry, but I might post this in Bali forum also because they might be more in-out travelers. The governmetn website is very useless not helps.[/QUOTE]Tourist sim can be registered to a foreign phone only 2 times for 3 months ea. Then if you want to use that phone you will need to register the IMIE and pay duty.

Only other option is to buy a cheap local phone and put a indo sim in it.

[QUOTE=United1;2874148]Hi Menteng. Thanks for your commments. But whys do you say can't use INdo SIM card in mobile phone abroad? I have been doing that last 4-5 times to Jakarta. It always works. I go to Telkosel at Mal Ambassador and they give me cheap card and register my IMEI.

But are you sayings if you spend MORE than 90 days in Indonesia (total, including in and out) then it doesn't work, must register?

Sorry if I am confused.[/QUOTE]I stayed six weeks at a stretch in September and October, this year.

Of course you can use an Indonesian SIM card in another country (roaming abroad), but you can not use an Indonesian SIM card in an UNREGISTERED phone you brought FROM abroad, while being in Indonesia. That was my experience.

So, when was the last time you were in Jakarta?

I mentioned that I have an Indonesian SIM card since a couple of years. I used to use it in my registered foreign phones. When registering that phone at / by Telkomsel (for 30 days) in September 2023, they told me it would be the last time that I could do that outside the airport. After those 30 days, the SIM card indeed stopped working. Thinking, the combination SIM card and expired registered IMEI does not work, I put the SIM card in my second, non-registered, phone. Alas, it still did not work. That was when a friend told me about tettering.

BTW, those who have registered a mobile phone that is worth more than US $500 at the airport, did they tell you that you'll have to pay tax?

Silly question but can I make the assumption that none of this matters on an all Asia or Global eSIM card bought outside of Indonesia?

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2874281]Tourist sim can be registered to a foreign phone only 2 times for 3 months ea. Then if you want to use that phone you will need to register the IMIE and pay duty.

Only other option is to buy a cheap local phone and put a indo sim in it.[/QUOTE]This could be what the Telkosim folks were tries to warn me. Hmmmm. Thanks.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2874321]Silly question but can I make the assumption that none of this matters on an all Asia or Global eSIM card bought outside of Indonesia?[/QUOTE]No, you don't have to register if you are using a non-Indo SIM card.

I arrive on December 7 for a 3 month stay. Prefer CJ's and BATS but also want to explore Kings Cross and Malioboro. Anyone wanting to meet up PM me ASAP.

Arrived, checked into Grand Mercure. Meh, staying 2 nights then moving to the Shangrila. I tried to walk down to Classic and got all of 200 m. Couldn't even try for Malio by foot because of construction and the mess of the street.

Malio on Sun was ok but there seemed to be no dancing when I was there. Had a few waters, a beer, bought a lovely lass several LD, did the old boom booms for I think 1. 2 M IDR (maybe it was 1. 4). Girl is very nice, getting her on an off day later this week to spend a day / night showing me JK and boom booms etc for 2 k mega LT.

I've been referred to a massage spot which I am going to now, then will go to Classic, Travel and probably Malio again to try the spa 1st. Tomorrow I am going to try a high rise bar then head to the Little Tokyo area and / or North Jakarta and try the beer bars and yada yada yada.

More detailed reports later in the week.

1st impressions here are women = A, streets = F, pollution = F, overall vibe is a good be+, food so far is A++.

I'm slowly remembering a LOT of basic Bahasa as I was quite fluent as a teen and in my military days. Always loved the word for Prison!

YMMV.

Yesterday's ventures.

1. Sugar Spa on Jalan Labu. Recommended by forum member. Nice massage, great BJ but CBJ only and I couldn't cum so had her rip the rubber off and give me a wonderful slow tantric type HJ. Super spurtlicious ending. In total had this 90+ minute session with a 30 something spinner with nice tits. No baby belly, looks a bit like an Indo pop star who's name I dunno. Overall excellent professional service, well appointed rooms and very hot friendly "therapists". I used the spa, cold plunge and sauna all for a 600 k plus tips. I gave the lady a 300 k tip as she is lovely. There is a cover charge here so if you are a tire kicker meh. Ratings. Lady = looks 8. 5, body 8, attitude 10.

Spa itself overall 9/10. I may return as I will be a long way away from today at the Shangrila so we will see.

2. Travel Hotel. Only stopped in to have another peek as my balls were well drained at 1.

Classic, was dark and noisy which surprised me. The rooms, layout and general vibe is excellent, everything was very clean and whilst the service was very full on (Mamasans) overall it is great spot.

I eventually took 2 ladies ST from the 3rd Mamasan who bothered me (Mamasan was told to get me 2 performers and good BJ givers, tipped 50 k). I had avoided eye contact with most people for the 1st hour I was in the club area and just wandered about like I was on an Australian guy walkabout, after ordering but 1 drink from the bar (expensive with 30% tax). Drinks menu looked okay, but I had a beer, so I managed to keep my bar bills very low.

The sex was okay to great. The BBBJ from one lady while another licked my neck and chest was delightful and I was very excited so I spurted within 7 minutes or less. The ladies tried the old one shot ST thing so I told them we would go for a full hour and multipops and that I will be tipping them 200 k each at the end if they perform. The 200 k tip idea saved the session and made both smile unconditionally.

I boom boomed with the older busty (D+ bust, plastic) MILF type (face looks about 6. 5, attitude 10, body 7. 5) while I tried to finger the 20 something spinner of the duet. She was very tight. The spinner is a straight 8 and very pleasant to look at, just a pretty girl (I guess she is 23-25).

Seeing I couldn't cum with the MILF (after my BBBJ and my early afternoon massage spurt session), I tried the spinner doggie style but she was very sore it seems (I am avg down below) so we got her on top and I massaged her clit to get her rocking and rolling. I banged the poor lass gently and then a bit harder for what seemed an eternity and I finally dribbled something into the rubber with very little joyous O feeling. While this was going I encouraged the MILF by sucking her tits and touching her all over while she lay next to us.

Overall, the place is better than Travel as there are fully naked ladies, the drinks seemed cheaper (I only had 1 beer), the ambience is quite nice.

In total, I was there for about 3 hours. I went and saw the spa, pool etc, terminal area (name? My total damage came to about 1. 3 Million all up (550 k per girl with tips and other), Mamasan tip and fees.

I will return on this trip and hang for longer and try everything on offer and may go for 2 different sessions spread out over an evening.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2874063]Also, what is the downside of registering your phone? I am coming for 2 weeks. I want to have data all the time. I would want to register my phone and get a SIM (either in the airport or in the mall). Is this a bad idea?[/QUOTE]What is the downside of registering your phone?

So far, nothing happened to me. (register your Imei at [URL]https://ecd.beacukai.go.id[/URL]).

You can do roaming or you can buy a cheap phone plus using hotspot.

I am buying a local sim and register my current phone. (this suppose to be most tourist is doing right?

After register online, look for a service booth for ground floor officer to activate your current phone (at the Jakarta airport). BUT you may needed 3/4 hours for the line to be "online" after insert local sim. (go ask the service booth officer about this). Note that I had a ready local sim on-hand.

If you do not had a local sim on-hand, just register the phone IMEI first (the link above) and go to met the service officer after immigration clearance. For phone more than usd500 there is a levy charge (how the service officer know how much your phone price?. Just a guess and estimated price. A new Iphone 15 Plus 256 G can not be priced at usd450. Just some common sense.

Once done this, buy a local sim at the airport (or anyway you like) and perform registering the local number as usual. (the person take a photo of I am holding my passport myself).

Insert the local sim, and as I said before the phone may take 3/4 hour to be "online".

I hope that may help you.

I arrived at Malio in the mid evening around 9. 30 pm and it was ok but not really busy. I wandered about as I usually do and got a table and bought myself a drink or 3. I made eye contact and motioned the lady from yesterday but she was ordered to go and sit with a Japanese client (mehhhh). Really good lookers tonight but are they really 3 times better than Classic. Nah "I don't think so Tim".

I was very flat from my 2 earlier in the day escapades and 3 * cum shots so I decided to just drink and buy some LD for the fook of it all. I was suddenly told I need a reservation to sit and drink at the table even though I'd paid for an entrance fee (yes?) and a drink for myself. Anyway, being the uppity bloke I can be when some asshat gets in my face, I decided to order a table reservation even though I had been at the fooking table for 45 minutes. REALLY. I mean the place was not packed yet. Mamasan told me I needed to spend 500 k IDR minimum. I told her I was a new regular and pointed at the lass from the day before, she smiled and acknowledged me. Anway, Mamasan was a pain so I lightened the mood and bought the cnut a drink and a very pretty bikini lady 4 drinks. Got a few myself and somehow ended up with a 885 k bill. I suppose the LD were a few hundred in total (50 k+ per drink+tax), my drinks were 2 beers, 2 shots and a cocktail.

The bikini model quoted me 1. 1 M IDR but I thought I had paid more for her friend yesterday. Anyway I couldn't get the cock=nerve=courage to go again so promised the lass I would return another day. She took umbrage but I smiled, offered her 2 M off-base overnight and for a day and got her contact details for her day off (Thu). Bikini girl is a straight pretty busty little lass, face = 9, body 9. 5 (no bubbies), we will see if I can get her to the Shangrila on Thu. Her attitude is bright when $ are mentioned.

YMMV.

I knew a few Indosat's engineers and managers who live in Jakarta, including one who married a hot Garuda's flight attendant.

They laugh about the air pollution, heavy floods with trash and feces floating with heavy rains, cars and motor bikes dead in flood water, brothels where they can bag girls for $5, may be less with recent exchange rates.

These guys are religious, really nice and mellow, but party, smoke, drink heavily and partake girls behind their wives' backs every chance. They want me to visit. Would be fun to hang with those guys.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2874800]Classic, was dark and noisy which surprised me. The rooms, layout and general vibe is excellent, everything was very clean and whilst the service was very full on (Mamasans) overall it is great spot.

I eventually took 2 ladies ST from the 3rd Mamasan who bothered me (Mamasan was told to get me 2 performers and good BJ givers, tipped 50 k). I had avoided eye contact with most people for the 1st hour I was in the club area and just wandered about like I was on an Australian guy walkabout, after ordering but 1 drink from the bar (expensive with 30% tax). Drinks menu looked okay, but I had a beer, so I managed to keep my bar bills very low.

The sex was okay to great. The BBBJ from one lady while another licked my neck and chest was delightful and I was very excited so I spurted within 7 minutes or less. The ladies tried the old one shot ST thing so I told them we would go for a full hour and multipops and that I will be tipping them 200 k each at the end if they perform. The 200 k tip idea saved the session and made both smile unconditionally.

I boom boomed with the older busty (D+ bust, plastic) MILF type (face looks about 6. 5, attitude 10, body 7. 5) while I tried to finger the 20 something spinner of the duet. She was very tight. The spinner is a straight 8 and very pleasant to look at, just a pretty girl (I guess she is 23-25).

Seeing I couldn't cum with the MILF (after my BBBJ and my early afternoon massage spurt session), I tried the spinner doggie style but she was very sore it seems (I am avg down below) so we got her on top and I massaged her clit to get her rocking and rolling. I banged the poor lass gently and then a bit harder for what seemed an eternity and I finally dribbled something into the rubber with very little joyous O feeling. While this was going I encouraged the MILF by sucking her tits and touching her all over while she lay next to us.

Overall, the place is better than Travel as there are fully naked ladies, the drinks seemed cheaper (I only had 1 beer), the ambience is quite nice.

In total, I was there for about 3 hours. I went and saw the spa, pool etc, terminal area (name? My total damage came to about 1. 3 Million all up (550 k per girl with tips and other), Mamasan tip and fees.

I will return on this trip and hang for longer and try everything on offer and may go for 2 different sessions spread out over an evening.[/QUOTE]I've had similar experiences to extend the session. But damn it's nearly impossible to get BBFS there. And, to clarify, did you mean they were naked in the bar area or just in the room?

[QUOTE=WeKilledKenny;2875385]I've had similar experiences to extend the session. But damn it's nearly impossible to get BBFS there. And, to clarify, did you mean they were naked in the bar area or just in the room?[/QUOTE]Depends who you ask and how much tip you offer.

My BB rate in classic is well above 50%.

[QUOTE=Cgk19;2874822]What is the downside of registering your phone?

So far, nothing happened to me. (register your Imei at [URL]https://ecd.beacukai.go.id[/URL]).

You can do roaming or you can buy a cheap phone plus using hotspot.

I am buying a local sim and register my current phone. (this suppose to be most tourist is doing right?

After register online, look for a service booth for ground floor officer to activate your current phone (at the Jakarta airport). BUT you may needed 3/4 hours for the line to be "online" after insert local sim. (go ask the service booth officer about this). Note that I had a ready local sim on-hand.

If you do not had a local sim on-hand, just register the phone IMEI first (the link above) and go to met the service officer after immigration clearance. For phone more than usd500 there is a levy charge (how the service officer know how much your phone price?. Just a guess and estimated price. A new Iphone 15 Plus 256 G can not be priced at usd450. Just some common sense.

Once done this, buy a local sim at the airport (or anyway you like) and perform registering the local number as usual. (the person take a photo of I am holding my passport myself).

Insert the local sim, and as I said before the phone may take 3/4 hour to be "online".

I hope that may help you.[/QUOTE]You guys aren't getting this. If you are a one off tourist and will only be in Indo less than 90 days you do not need to register your phones IMIE. You can show your passport at the telkomsel booth after customs and get a three month tourist sim, it may be extended one more time for an additional 3 months at a telkomsel Grapari phone store (bring your passport) OR you just use your foreign SIM. No IMIE registration required in both instances.

If you are a regular visitor to Indo, and have a local sim card. Your phone needed to have been used in Indo before 2021 or something for the IMIE to be in the system, otherwise you need to register it for the local SIM to work OR use your foreign SIM.

Duty is calculated on the market value of your phone Over a $500 USD threshold. It's no big deal.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2875452]You can show your passport at the telkomsel booth after customs and get a three month tourist sim, it may be extended one more time for an additional 3 months at a telkomsel Grapari phone store (bring your passport) OR you just use your foreign SIM. No IMIE registration required in both instances.

.[/QUOTE]Thanks Offshore. These last part I wanting to confirm. Because I go Jakarta a 4 times a year (fly in and out for 20 days), I was told that you can only do this 2 x and then need to do IMEI registration at airport.

So can I still do IMEI registration at Telkomsel Grapari at the mall? Or after 2 x entering the country (even though less than 30 days) in one year, I MUST registers at airport.

Sorry to keep bringing this up.

I told the 2 ladies at Classic that I have a problem with condoms for oral sex (Bulldust) and would like BBBJ immediately with a tip promise as was my 2nd request for more than 1 shot. So in total they got 200 k each tip.

I am told that ladies here may only get 100 k per session out of 350 k total.

Did BATS, some of Blok M. Little Tokyo, Jalan Falatehan and Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.

Reports to follow.

Overall, I like BATS and North Jakarta quite a bit, Tokyo good, the beer bars okay not great.

[QUOTE=United1;2875647]Thanks Offshore. These last part I wanting to confirm. Because I go Jakarta a 4 times a year (fly in and out for 20 days), I was told that you can only do this 2 x and then need to do IMEI registration at airport.

So can I still do IMEI registration at Telkomsel Grapari at the mall? Or after 2 x entering the country (even though less than 30 days) in one year, I MUST registers at airport.

Sorry to keep bringing this up.[/QUOTE]You should register with customs when clearing customs at the airport. Otherwise you must register at a customs office in the city but get no $500 USD duty free threshold on the calculable duty. Yes you can get a tourist simand after 2 times renew register your IMIE. This is smart because in 6 months the value of your phone has dropped

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2875675]I told the 2 ladies at Classic that I have a problem with condoms for oral sex (Bulldust) and would like BBBJ immediately with a tip promise as was my 2nd request for more than 1 shot. So in total they got 200 k each tip.

I am told that ladies here may only get 100 k per session out of 350 k total.[/QUOTE]BBBJ is standard everywhere. 2 shots with 2 girls is part of the deal anyway. There was no need to tip. You got robbed.

So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.

Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.

Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.

The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.

The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.

Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.

Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.

Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.

Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.

Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.

Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.

I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]Decided to go back to Classic Spa...... by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. .[/QUOTE]Fuck Yeah! What a report. And only 3 days on ground in Jakarta! Wow! Best report posted in a year! Amen and Amen!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. [/QUOTE]Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. [/QUOTE]This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it [/QUOTE]Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.

Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? [/QUOTE]We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]" I will be baack".[/QUOTE]Amazing review. Thanks for shares. I will private message you question.

We may well have done the same lady at Sugar and Classic. LOL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875930]
We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.[/QUOTE]The less people that know the better, LOL.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875930]Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.

This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.

Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.

Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?

We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.[/QUOTE]I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.

Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.

Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.

Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.

The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.

The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.

Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.

Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.

Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.

Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.

Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.

Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.

I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".[/QUOTE]What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?

Cheers.

Be.

[QUOTE=Belsie;2876103]What a great report, many thanks for taking the time. Something I did not quite understand; On day 1 you went to Classic on day 2 and 3 to Classic Spa, is this two seperate places, or is it the same?

Cheers.

Be.[/QUOTE]There are several levels to Classic.

As you walk into the place, the ground floor entrance leads to a disco. For the sex club you need to get in the lift and go up to the second floor, there's a large room called Terminal, the massage / steam / sauna is on a separate floor. The sex rooms are separate.

I like the set up as the girls will shower in front of you. Loved watching them wash the pussy. 2nd time I went, I got into the shower and got BBBJ (squeezy space) from my lady on all 4's. True PSE lady, the only one of 5 ladies I did over 3 trips that was true PSE but each session I had was good to great. Each girl I did was picked from ladies sitting on a couch, all controlled by Mamasan. Some of the Mamas are very obnoxious. I just tipped this particular one each time as she would "help" me with selections based on my ideas.

Overall -.

Free admission but, Minimum spend 40 k, may be as much as 120 k depending on whether they can "gouge' you (Bule).

Short time 350 k, doubles are 500 k but I got Mamasan to line me up 2 goers (more likely to do what I wanted) so paid 700 k plus 50 k tip for Mama plus I tipped the girls 200 k ea.

On-stage dancers 1,500 k minimum to boom booms. I checked out a few but for the price of 4 women why pay 1 "model" MORE.

Beers 70 k, sodas 31 k.

Shots 45 k add 30% taxes etc.

You get given a wristband with a number when you enter the club, and pay your drinks bill on the way out. The cost of sex is paid separately upfront to a mamasan. You're then directed to a short time hotel room upstairs for 60 minutes.

I sat and talked with the PSE girl first by booking a table for one hour (I think it was 350 k for the hour), and add drinks I bought her and my 1 beer. But I get groped and massaged and fondled so I knew this girl was THE ONE. Drinks are not included. Or, just tell the mamasan which girl you want and head straight upstairs. All the Girls sit and wait on seats on the side.

Many girls will insist on condoms even for BJ. This is why I asked a certain Mamasan to help me. I used her girls each time as I was known after trip 1. There are some real lookers here, indeed as good or better than Malio IMHO, especially after 8 pm or so.

Over 4 trips to Classic I spent a total of 4. 9 M IDR. But that was doing everything I wanted. Great place. Travel is similar just more laid back.

Negatives are the smoke at night and Mamasans. Plus I despise the way they treat the ladies.

YMMV.

Pic below is from a blog, not mine (I don't take pics).

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2875930]We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days.[/QUOTE]I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that? Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2876298]I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.[/QUOTE]I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2876307]I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. Its too far from the West, few will take a 24 hour flight from US or Europe to get there. It does get some Asian clientele but I didn't notice a lot of them. It doesn't have the direct flights and connections that Bangkok has. It doesn't have a thousand You Tubers walking around with cameras and pointing at girls. The red light districts while awesome, are indoors and doesn't spill onto the streets like on the Suk. With a few exceptions it is catering to the local market. Except at Malio, I saw no white people (except those in our group) at any of the venues. It may come under fire from the religious brigade but it won't be because of foreign sex tourists.[/QUOTE]Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.

None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2876085]The less people that know the better, LOL.[/QUOTE]Truth is, many mongers in our hobby knows about Jakarta. So there is really no secrets for mongers.

It's more about comfort zone and habits more than anything else.

For most mongers, if they are use to a place and are repeat regulars, they often have an establish routine and built up Rolodex of girls. So why spend money on something uncertain when they already know what to expect. Some mongers are lucky as they live somewhat closer to Asia in general and can get much cheaper airfares to explore more places. I'm from Canada and it's not only expensive as f**k to book a ticket but the sometimes 20+ hrs travel with transfers to some Asian destinations will also drive you crazy. So many will not risk it and just go with tried and true.

Also, many prefer Philippines over all others as no language barrier and also liquor is cheap (for the drinkers).

As for me, I'm more the adventurous fellow so I'll go anywhere as long as its relatively safe (and cheap). I've done my tour of duty in a few shank ghetto slums in my time, got ripped off many times, had fun many times, got chased out a few times by pimps and mamas, but always in the pursuit of the mongers life.

Cheers all.

Hitting Jakarta in 2 weeks. Planning to visit the following places: Travel, Classic, Kota Indah, Malio club, Sugar Spa in North and BATS / CJ's in South, please correct me if I am wrong add more places if I missed out any. And how does one plan the mongering trip to max. Any scams / certain things I should be careful of. What is the best way to move around, grab! Thanks.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2876324]Can accept that line of reasoning and hopefully it plays out that way although an increase in bules is noticeable. What is hard is the one or two time visitors who suddenly become the go to authority here and constantly blab about the best places. Especially around BBFS. If there's ever a breakout of HIV or STI's you know who will get the blame and a big night of BB fun in Jakarta is one of life's great pleasures. That is worth preserving.

None of this detracts from your report, a quality read that will soon be buried amongst a lot of the burble that can go on here.[/QUOTE]The negatives for Jakarta are real and will keep many away:

1. language barrier.

2. horrible traffic.

3. dreadful pollution.

4. as noted above, relatively inaccessible.

5. the venues are more or less 'underground', at least compared to Bangkok. It takes a little bit of work (not much) to find them.

I think Indonesia will remain a niche market for some time. And like you, Mr. OS and others, I hope it remains that way!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2876093]I don't think girls are hurting and I don't necessarily think my experiences are the "norm" and everyone should expect that. Other members of our group had varying success rates with the BBFS. I generally have good success even in Thailand (like 75%) but not with girls as hot as the ones in Jakarta. I am also not cheap charlie. If a girl pleases me the way I want, I make sure she is happy. The girl I repeated with at Classic Spa was thrilled to see me again and then her friend felt safe also and the 3 some worked. Repeating at a location and having a good reputation there helps. The first 3 some in Classic Bar, the girls were new so maybe that helped also. Or maybe I am just charming them. LOL. Either way, worked well for me.

Yes Malio Cover 150 K (10 USD). I didn't check out other areas this time.[/QUOTE]Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2875367]I knew a few Indosat's engineers and managers who live in Jakarta, including one who married a hot Garuda's flight attendant,

They laugh about the air pollution, heavy floods with trash and feces floating with heavy rains, cars and motor bikes dead in flood water, brothels where they can bag girls for $5, may be less with recent exchange rates.

These guys are religious, really nice and mellow, but party, smoke, drink heavily and partake girls behind their wives' backs every chance. They want me to visit. Would be fun to hang with those guys.[/QUOTE]Is the pope Catholics?? Let alone if you could bang his hot wife the Garuda's flight attendant, rofl

Bag girls for $5 ?? As matter of fact you MIGHT get it for free not just in Jakarta but anywhere in the world. But for this you will need to be lucky and in many cases you will need to meet some certain criteria. Ordinary people normally do not. All of the male pornstar are even getting paid to bang young hot looking girls.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2876298]I bit Ironic then that the blabbers here are probably one of the things that will help spoil it the fastest. Talk about lemming like behaviour. Is Mr JSmith the only other one here that recognises that?. Discretion is probably the one thing that separates the hard core punters from the sex tourists when it comes to Indonesia.[/QUOTE]I sure hope you're not calling me out as a blabber. Let me know if you are or are not.

[QUOTE=Expat American;2876307]I think this notion that Jakarta will suddenly become a Bangkok is silly. 2023 saw 160 K visitor to Jakarta. In the same time over 20 M visited Bangkok. Jakarta is not on anyones tourist radar. [/QUOTE]

Coincidentally I saw a chart on Facebook this morning with tourist stats for this year. IIRC I think it was 23 million to Thailand, not to Bangkok itself. Yes a large portion likely to Bangkok though. I think it was 6 million to Indonesia and yes most of those likely to Bali. I agree no one goes to Jakarta. Place is a dump with terrible traffic and an extra 3.5 hour plane ride no one wants to take from Thailand.

The number of people who read this Jakarta thread aren't going to make a difference. Now if I were posting this on a Japan, Korea, or China board then yes that could easily destroy Jakarta. I like the 365k price take in Jakarta as much as anyone else.

I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2876085]The less people that know the better, LOL.[/QUOTE]

If everyone hid all information and were lurkers then why have ISG? I only post about 20% of what I know in these forums. Imagine if I posted everything?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876461]I sure hope you're not calling me out as a blabber. [/QUOTE]Admin would like me to be more collegiate with my fellow mongers. From now on we shall call them "enthusiastic participants".

It´s actually quite a healthy discussion

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2876461]

I think it's the guys who go around talking about BBFS here and BBFS there in all these countries who do more damage. That gets guys in to a city much quicker than me posting stuff about certain 'secret' areas in Jakarta. If anyone ever noticed I will NEVER post about BBFS availability in any country.

[/QUOTE]As one guilty as charged of posting BBFS success stories, I feel compelled to point out that the above is simply not true. For example AO clubs in Germany have been well known for a long time where for 30 Euro you get BBFS. And yet when I went there the clubs were not packed and there was never another tourist besides me. All the tourists hung out in the main Frankfurt clubs. Similarly AC is well known for BBFS and has always been. Why then don't all the active participants on this board from all the other countries flock there? Do you go onto the Africa boards? There is tons of BBFS available all over Africa. Have you ventured there? Guys, first of all BBFS is available EVERYWHERE, if you know how to get it. Second, don't over inflate your own influence on global trends. Its effectively ZERO. And Third, people stick to what they know. I myself in 20+ years of mongering never went to Jakarta before this. Reports are for reading pleasure only. YMMV.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2876595]As one guilty as charged of posting BBFS success stories, I feel compelled to point out that the above is simply not true. For example AO clubs in Germany have been well known for a long time where for 30 Euro you get BBFS. And yet when I went there the clubs were not packed and there was never another tourist besides me. All the tourists hung out in the main Frankfurt clubs. Similarly AC is well known for BBFS and has always been. Why then don't all the active participants on this board from all the other countries flock there? Do you go onto the Africa boards? There is tons of BBFS available all over Africa. Have you ventured there? Guys, first of all BBFS is available EVERYWHERE, if you know how to get it. Second, don't over inflate your own influence on global trends. Its effectively ZERO. And Third, people stick to what they know. I myself in 20+ years of mongering never went to Jakarta before this. Reports are for reading pleasure only. YMMV.[/QUOTE]With the way social media, internet, and now AI has evolved.

It would not surprise me if Jakarta does start becoming a mongering destination at some point.

Prolly not in the immediate future I hope.

The evolution of the smart phone has made travelling so much easier.

I remember having to print out maps to navigate.

Now all I need to survive is a backpack and my phone.

FR from a recent work trip to the south city.

Mars Spa- Friday 7 pm, the lounge is empty with about 10-12 girls sitting along the wall on the opposite side of the booths. The most pretty one was the only one looking at me but I wasn't in the mood for skinny with flat chest and chose a Latina type. Paid 450 k and found out my choice rejected me with the ole red day excuse. Back down I go and still the pretty skinny girl is eyeing me so I choose the path of least resistance and go with her.

Salsa 25 yo, is three months new to the scene coming from work as a department store promo girl. Definitely has a promo girl figure with those long legs, her tall and skinny shape not common here in Indo. She's a modest one keeping herself wrapped in towel for the massage. Her hands have a nice touch and became more sensual on the upper back after I initiate some touching of my own. Flip over and her towel is gone but the bra still on. Weird. Maybe she is shy to reveal her small chest. Made for for a nice GFE as I removed it and she is really enjoying being touched and caressed everywhere. She's a tender flower and I treat her as such. DFK eventually turns into DATY and a good time is being had. Ready for entry but she demands a raincoat before proceeding. Despite the skinny frame her bum is perfect with a good amount of meat to hold onto. Finished with a nice lay down together after for a few minutes to catch our breath. She was pleasant to chat with as I got dressed, bless her for listening to my basic childlike Bahasa. Time well spent.

Mr. Braid / G2 Spa- this was more of a recon mission. G2 no longer exists and a few doors down is Mr. Braid which has no subtlety to it whatsoever. Walk in the front door and bam everything hits you smack in the face. Enter the smoke filled lounge with two table with about 20 girls hanging out, a few bros around and the music absolutely banging loud. The girls looked a bit older and more seasoned than those at Mars. Piece of paper taped on the front desk reads 60 min 350 k in handwriting. Asked for April from a previous post but she is now at Emporium. Was not an inviting scene for me but maybe it is different during the day, would be curious to find out.

Aquarius Spa- Sat 7 p. Was too early for the lineup showing at 8 p so had to choose from the phone. Took the prettiest one with the porcelain doll look taking the chance she's not a starfish. VIP room with bed and useless tub is 750 k. The nice waiting lounge has nice jazz music and smoke free. Such a contrast to Braid.

Susanna 25 yo looked even better than her dollish photo as this spinner was well done up, hair, makeup, jewelry and all. She is certainly meticulous about her looks. A bit reserved but her good service began as she takes my removed clothes to perfectly fold and put aside. Impressive! She gets down to her underwear and her be cups are just a perfect complement to her small frame. Her massage skills are actually really good, damn does she have strong hands for such a small girl! She's all business, no teasing, no sensuality, no regard for my touching. If the rest is bad at least I got a good massage LOL. After the arms she says massage is done and next section is a very sensual penis massage. This provided my favorite image of the weekend as she sits on top of me, super focused, hair pulled back, seemingly enjoying my increasing arousal. Damn is she beautiful. Has a Japanese look with how she does her makeup and her small cheekbones. Next is the body massage where she rubs her chest on my unit and inches her way up to my chest where she stops and hugs down on me for a few moments which become a few moments longer. Unique. It was sweet and sexy and I was super turned on at this point. Time for her to shower. Realize this girl is a clean freak, I certainly know the type. Just hoped she wasn't a prude. Oh good she enjoys her beautiful breasts to be sucked but of course she is very ticklish. No BJ and nothing goes inside her vagina except a wrapped penis. Not a problem for me with this beauty. Sex was ok but she holds back and seems to not allow herself to enjoy pleasure. Maybe it's hard to do for some in this line of work. Or maybe I didn't last long enough to break through the resistance LOL. She returns to her comfort zone in the shower as her 5 star service continues with a thorough washing, enthusiastically scrubbing clean my body. Clean freaks loving what they do best. A memorable experience for sure.

Dheaven Spa- Sunday 6 pm. Busy time at this popular spot, old uncles walking around in bathrobes, Korean dudes heading to the sauna after their session. Choices were few (from a phone) and only slim girls were available. 21 yo Bella was all skin and bones but graced with beautiful perky nipples which stood out from her tiny frame that are just begging to be sucked. As is the norm with Dheaven girls from my experience, she had a good attitude with service that aimed to please. They do the shiatsu walk on your back routine. Let her ride me cowgirl. Good shag. This place never disappoints. 775 k. Pro tip: Play music on your phone during the session as here and Aquarius have nice rooms but are severely missing that important touch of vibes. Sets a mood different than just silence or noise from outside the room. This girl commented on how nice it was to have music. I like to put on some sexy downtempo beats.

A reference for those that care, all above service was covered with no attempt on my part for BB.

Lots of options too on Telegrams people nearby function. Girls promoting video sex and content a la Only fans and room in calls / outcalls with guidelines laid out. Even the hotel I stayed in had some girls working out of a room across the hall. Sex lurks everywhere in Jakarta! Great weekend, look forward to a return soon.

Just stumbled upon this underground forum by chance and will figure out membership soon. Great camaraderie here, wonderful and hopefully I'll add some in times to come. Hitting Jakarta in early Jan for a sex vacation. Live in Europe where this is either non existent or super expensive. Can some brother come to my rescue and share which spa brothels bars clubs to visit so time is not lost in planning and traffic, looking at full & sex only. No cover is not my game although rear end is. Time is my friend and I wish to plan some mega events, travelling with close buddies so looking at plenty of chicks under the shade. This is my first report so go easy on me. Like wine will get better with time. Yours truly Krack.

Coming to Jakarta in a couple of weeks and very excited. I plan to try Classic and Travel and various spas mentioned while RTFF. Very much enjoy a good rimjob. Which of these places is the best to receive this in your experience? Also, has any one tried the aptly named "Blow Art" places? They are quite far out and I'm not sure they're worth the time and effort.

[QUOTE=KrackJack;2877008]Just stumbled upon this underground forum by chance and will figure out membership soon. Great camaraderie here, wonderful and hopefully I'll add some in times to come. Hitting Jakarta in early Jan for a sex vacation. Live in Europe where this is either non existent or super expensive. Can some brother come to my rescue and share which spa brothels bars clubs to visit so time is not lost in planning and traffic, looking at full & sex only. No cover is not my game although rear end is. Time is my friend and I wish to plan some mega events, travelling with close buddies so looking at plenty of chicks under the shade. This is my first report so go easy on me. Like wine will get better with time. Yours truly Krack.[/QUOTE]Dude. Literally two posts below yours are two detailed trip reports that in total mention almost 10 establishments. If you read a few pages you will get even more info. I get you are new here but we generally frown upon lazy posters who don't bother to even read a few pages before demanding others here to serve as their personal travel agent. Please if you are new to Asia, go to Thailand. Jakarta is not for you.

Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.

So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.

Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.

Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.

Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.

One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer!

[QUOTE=Zanny;2877436]Nice TR "Expat American" . I know who you are, hahaha because I'm the ISG bro who told you about Holiday Inn Gajah Mada.

So the secret is out. Just embrace it Offshore Swell. You are complaining so much about the scene in Jakarta being "ruined", I think I know who you are as well hahaha.

Next time I go to Jakarta in 2024, I expect Holiday Inn's 400 rooms to all be filled with mongers, LOL.

Someone asked about PrEP. Yes, if you are doing any risky sexual behaviour, then for the girls sake and for yours and ours, take PrEP like I do. Also I used to take it for 2 or 3 days before my first session, but I read some new info and now on this and future trips, I'm taking it for a full 7 days before my first session.

Just catching up on this forum after coming back from a week in Jakarta. It was great to discover some new places, and finishing off my last night, with a 19 yo and 20 yo in Kotah Indah, getting back to my room at 4 am.

One tip for my next trip, I'm bringing my own green laser pointer![/QUOTE]Ha Ha! OK dudes, peace. OS will now move on to more deviant activities than complaining. Like finding an agent in the adjoining city of his new rural residence to recruit willing young maidens for jiggy jig and finding a sutiable hung local bule companion of which we may both hunt on Kaskus for ladies who want to be DP'd by big bule cocks. Backdoor is a bit of a taboo topic for a lot of Indonesians. OS asked 3 of his favourite Mami's if they had any girls who liked it in the pantat and got a firm no back from each.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2876409]Just wonder, Did you take PreP regularly before engaging in BBFS and presumably CIP. ?? In some countries in Europe PreP is now available for free of charge, even for regular intake for those who could show reasons why they need them.[/QUOTE]I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2877782]I did take PreP...[/QUOTE]Did you experience any side effects whatsoever from PreP?

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2877782]I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will try that even though I don't BBFS I do DATY.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2877782]I did take PreP but I think its overkill as risk of F2 M Vaginal HIV transmission is negligible. But since I was able to score some cheap generic PreP I decided to take the extra insurance. More important is protection from bacterial infections (Chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Syphilis). The best known protocol for that is a course of Doxycycline after your trip or one daily during (if your trip is less than a week). Alternatively take 1 g Azithromycin single dose at the end of the trip. None of this is 100% but I think reduces the risk to a manageable level that I am comfortable with.[/QUOTE]Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.

OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.

Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.

Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rat’s fists. It’s always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isn’t cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once it’s on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2877871]Yup, awesome solution untill you get some skin infection years later and nothing you take clears it up. Here's a tip. Get yourself a little red bottle of betadine soap "Sabun Betadine" at any chain apotek, Watsons, Kimia Pharma etc. It's a povidone iodine antiseptic wash. Then after sex wash your major asset with it. It's a foaming wash. The girl will be impressed and may even ask if she can have some.

OS can vouch from exprience of barebacking hundreds of chickens that you will be protected against bacterial transmission of those characters. If you choose to creampie however, the risk is elevated as you have a better transmission conduit. Ya got to love those girls though. Half of them will be offended if you don't creampie them. If you have high moral standards like OS, you may politely enquire as to whether the lady uses contraception with the simple phrase Sudah KB. (Pronounced KahBeh). You will be surprised how many dont.

Antibiotic resistance is shaping up as one of the major global health issues . Drug companies wont invest in new antibiotics because hospitals put them in the drawer as the last line of defence to clear up the stuff that is resistant to everything else. Doxycycline is one of those.

Lastly while OS is on a moral rant. For those of you who watch too much porn and think that these girls get off on you choking them and slapping them around. Save that for your ugly cellulite ridden wife at home. A lot of these girls are in these places because they have landed on the wrong side of some village rats fists. Its always interesting hearing their stories and they will tell you of any previous interactions with westerners. But running out of the room crying because some peanut brained bule is reliving his porn fantasies isnt cool. And remember, Indonesians are really nice and really polite right up to the point that they are not and that includes security in those places. Once its on theres an awful lot of hangers on milling around who will throw a quick hit in purely because they can.[/QUOTE]Betadiene is good general antiseptic for surface application, but I'm not sure it will prevent Chlamydia etc because those buggers go up your urethra where you can't get the soap. Its not a bad protocol to use it, but its not the same as antibiotics so you can use both. Antibiotic resistance is real and if I lived in Jakarta or something I couldn't take it all the time. I usually only do 3 day mongering visits a few times a year so I think its okay. And for the last paragraph, I assume its not addressed to me because I never treat the girl badly and every time girls have been happy to repeat. But yes, treat them kindly, they have a hard life.

Well it looks like I'm going to be headed this way I live in Pattaya but I'm in the states right now and decided to take a trip before returning just a couple of days. I've read the forum and know the spots one thing I don't know is what time does classic club open or is it 24 hrs I get in early in the morning and wouldn't mind heading straight over after I check into my room.

[QUOTE=GraniteSt8;2876891]....... only slim girls were available......[/QUOTE]I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2878323]I remember when this could have been said of many establishments in Thailand, not any more. I better get to Indonesia again before this changes.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878415]I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I would say many of the Indo girls body I've been with differ with age. The teens tend to be slim. 20's had a bit more curves and some bit more fat. 30's more so. But for some reason, some of the 40's I've seen seem to get thinner again (at least the ones from the FL clubs).

On average, the Indo girls tend to be slightly more plumb than the average Thai of the same age.

Many of the Cambodian girls I've had on average are also more plumb than the Indo.

But you are correct, the Viets are generally slim at all ages but also have smaller boobs (same with the Chinese girls).

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2878415]I wouldn't describe Jakarta girls as slim. They're curvy. If you want slim go to Ho Chi Minh. No fat girls whatsoever.[/QUOTE]I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed.

I lived and worked in Jakarta 20 odd years ago. Back then the go to places were CJ's and be. A. T. S to pick up freelancers at around IDR350 K per pop ST, IDR500 k LT and the occasional 9/10's asking for around IDR700 K. Blok M was also very much alive, and there were places like Tiga Puluh (had a few good nights) and also Blowfish, Dragonfly etc.

So this trip was very much a walk down memory lane. Staying in the Harmoni area. Some decent hotels (Yello, Harris, Grand Mercure (around there. Walking distance to Malio and close to Classic, Travel etc.

BATS / CJ's. No longer like the glory days. I went fully expecting to meet the daughters of the previous generation who worked there 20 years ago. Instead I found probably women of that vintage still there. However to be fair I had a fantastic night out in CJ's. Decent band. Alcohol was expensive (IDR200 k for a bottle of corona - 1st bottle included in the entrance fee). I perched myself in the counter along the walkway to the washrooms, and got to checkout the girls enroute. A smile and a nod went a long way and I ended up talking to a fair few of the women who were there and had a bit of a laugh with them. Funniest thing as I was not on a mission to pick up and was just there to watch the world go by, the ladies were relaxed and friendly and pointed out punters that they did not like and had a bad reputation. Some of the ladies were regular office admin workers who came there after work for extra cash. All in all very interesting women in there mid to late 30's / early 40's, and back in blighty I would have had no qualms taking them back. But here in Jakarta expectations are a bit higher. There were some younger females in the there 20's. Again, very friendly, but less inclined to stop and chat. Would say they were solid 6/7's. Prices. Don't have a clue, as I wasn't asking but when you go down to the lobby there were a few ladies scattered around on the arm chairs (easy to chat and discuss prices) and one pretty attractive younger female quote IDR1. 2 m. Similar scenario in BATS in the Mulia Lobby. I would say that is fairly reasonable benchmark. What I do like about CJ's however is, it is more of an experience meeting, having a chat and taking someone back. The level of English was higher and you can more of a GFE, if you are willing to compromise a bit on the age and looks. Probably a few gems to be found if you invest the time and resources going there regularly.

Classic. Don't need to say much about classic. Enough in the forum. Be polite to the security guards and they are very friendly. Visited around 6 pm. Just go in, up the escalator to the second floor. Ignore the mamasans politely and head to the bar and get a beer. I think it was about IDR110 k. They give you one of these wrist bands with a number. I say myself on a table and eventually a mamasan came over, who was not pushy. Look out for her or ask for her. Her name is Aggie. Asked me what I wanted and she brought out a very attractive young lady, who turned out to be 19 and a solid 7. Mamasan advised me beforehand that 'had no baby' (true). Asked me if I was a duo. Greed got the better of me and I said OK. Proceed to bring alone another attractive female (solid 6) who was 20. Paid the IDR550 k for the both of them and went down to the rooms with my beer in hand.

The threesome was not one in the true sense of the word. The girls did not interact with each other. More a case of taking turns with each. It was good for the experience but if there is a next time I think I would stick to one and focus fully on her.

A bit of performance anxiety did creep up, with one watching while a had my way with the 19 year old. But each to his own. Others may like having an audience. Anyway the whole thing was an experience, but all in all its just a pump and dump (re) production line, and probably not for all. Personally I much prefer picking up in a place like Thermae in Bangkok, or Ipanema in Singapore (in the old days). Or Thai Friendly and spending a bit of time getting to know them before doing the deed.

MIght check out Malio. I think the quality would better (but more expensive) but essentially it is still a pump and dump and I think I prefer trying to meet some semi-professionals. I have been told to check out Basque and I might pop into Dragonfly to see what is about.

Other interesting things I noted. Along Jl Hayam Wuruk near grand mercure and along the stretch there are pimps on scooters parked along with 3 or so ladies around 2 am in the morning, I did not partake as its not my scene, but just get your bluebird driver to do a bit of kerb crawling and you can check out the score.

Dating apps are a bit hit and miss. But the women here like their young 'Bule' (I am neither) so others may have differing levels of success. The matches I got were 6/7 in there 30's which I did not pursue.

Final thoughts Jakarta as a punting destination. In its favour, it's cheap. Its plentiful, for pump and dump. I think there is enough variety to satisfy every palate and price point. Other than that great local cuisine, but not much else to do than shopping malls. Perhaps a stopover on the way to Bali may be better. A local I know however advised that I forget Bali and go to Labuan Bojo which is the next tourist hotspot.

If you have a few weeks / months to spare, and you can get to the local scene with regular people (used to be in it) it's more rewarding. However for purely punting purposes, Bangkok / Thailand still wins hands down and I doubt I will bother again, unless it is to meet old local friends and invest some time in dating etc.

Does anyone know a good call-in service in Jakarta? Meaning they can send a beautiufl girl to my place for massage? I know, I am better of going to one of the many great spas in the area.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2876591]Admin would like me to be more collegiate with my fellow mongers. From now on we shall call them "enthusiastic participants".

Its actually quite a healthy discussion[/QUOTE]Naw, you were spot on the first time.

Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.

1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.

2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.

3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.

4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.

5. language barrier with ladies.

6. usual scams if any.

Hitting Bali after this.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2877072]Dude. Literally two posts below yours are two detailed trip reports that in total mention almost 10 establishments. If you read a few pages you will get even more info. I get you are new here but we generally frown upon lazy posters who don't bother to even read a few pages before demanding others here to serve as their personal travel agent. Please if you are new to Asia, go to Thailand. Jakarta is not for you.[/QUOTE]

"Everything is smooth at Jakarta airport but it's irrelevant if you have checked bags which you have to wait an hour for.

This is the most interesting statement for me after reading your review. Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls. In fact, most demanding guys complain about the service at Classic and Travel. Girls must really be hurting for business if this is the new norm at Classic and Travel.

Don't think the bad press at Malioboro is because you can't have fun there with beautiful girls. The bad press comes from the high prices the girls demand ie. 40-60 drinks just for a BJ.

Is cover still $10 US? Did you check out the other floors?

We all ask ourselves the same question after our first trip to Jakarta. I've been trying to get some guys to go sine 2017 but they're so stuck in their ways in PP and Thailand and are "afraid" to try somewhere new. I guess they'll figure it out in another few years when Jakarta becomes more popular. By then it'll be too late as it'll be another place where we look back at the good old days. ".

Classic and Travel are not really known for BBFS for first time customers and even more difficult if you take 2 girls?

Well while this is a well written report I have my concerns with the veracity of it, I suspect at best a huge amount of hyperbole or beer goggles reporting, just add alcohol.

Dark smokey venues loud music with horny guys and you get very inaccurate information.

First off quality is subjective, what he describes as awesome talent is not so awesome to me, but I don't drink, so theres that.

Also I think I'm a decent looking guy in 6' 2" blonde hair blue not fat or old (yet).

And he doesn't mention that many of these girls don't like white guys, especially the better looking ones, I think they have plenty of customers and they don't need a negative rep from the locals that see them going with white guys, nobody will care about the less attractive ones.

This report is so over the top positive it can be read like a paid infomercial.

The BBFS comments are very suspect, I don't like condoms, but will say the chance of this being 100% accurate.

Is likely to be close to 0% if not 0%.

He mentioned hes not a "cheap charlie" well that reads as deliberately misleading, firstly unless you're doing many repeats (the girls wouldn't know this) and you have been around years that might help.

But for just a couple days? I feel that's a completely dishonest comment, and as far as not being a cheap charlie I don't think if Brad Pitt walked into these places throwing cash around, that would make a any difference at least not to the better looking ones, they get plenty of locals and wouldn't care.

In my experience there, all of this seems quite unlikely.

Jakarta has a ton of negatives but he doesn't really touch on them.

"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".

This comment suggests he doesn't expect this post to be received as very credible, so he won't be surprised when it isn't.

I just wish when guys want to rave about how great a place is, post a few face pics, and please let them be of girls you actually did there BBFS.

In closing lolol some guys like telling big fish stories, this is the perfect format for it.

Go to any bar or brothel or gym in the world.

And you will see them with several gullible guys listening in.

They love the attention.

My policy is take each report with a grain of salt.

There are too many bullshitters in the world, read with caution.

When I started reading ISG I was gullible and took huge expensive trips to places and spent lots of cash only to find out who I listened to.

Either was a bullshitting cheerleader or had way different standards than I.

Do what you want when you read reports like this.

But I operate from the assumption that its all inaccurate / bullshit.

And work from there.

If one monger writes a glowing report about a place, 10000 miles away from your home.

You may want to proceed with caution!!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2880473]

Well while this is a well written report I have my concerns with the veracity of it, I suspect at best a huge amount of hyperbole or beer goggles reporting, just add alcohol.

Dark smokey venues loud music with horny guys and you get very inaccurate information.

First off quality is subjective, what he describes as awesome talent is not so awesome to me, but I don't drink, so theres that.

Also I think I'm a decent looking guy in 6' 2" blonde hair blue not fat or old (yet).

And he doesn't mention that many of these girls don't like white guys, especially the better looking ones, I think they have plenty of customers and they don't need a negative rep from the locals that see them going with white guys, nobody will care about the less attractive ones.

This report is so over the top positive it can be read like a paid infomercial.

The BBFS comments are very suspect, I don't like condoms, but will say the chance of this being 100% accurate.

Is likely to be close to 0% if not 0%.

He mentioned hes not a "cheap charlie" well that reads as deliberately misleading, firstly unless you're doing many repeats (the girls wouldn't know this) and you have been around years that might help.

But for just a couple days? I feel that's a completely dishonest comment, and as far as not being a cheap charlie I don't think if Brad Pitt walked into these places throwing cash around, that would make a any difference at least not to the better looking ones, they get plenty of locals and wouldn't care.

In my experience there, all of this seems quite unlikely.

Jakarta has a ton of negatives but he doesn't really touch on them.

"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".

This comment suggests he doesn't expect this post to be received as very credible, so he won't be surprised when it isn't.

I just wish when guys want to rave about how great a place is, post a few face pics, and please let them be of girls you actually did there BBFS.

In closing lolol some guys like telling big fish stories, this is the perfect format for it.

Go to any bar or brothel or gym in the world.

And you will see them with several gullible guys listening in.

They love the attention.

My policy is take each report with a grain of salt.

There are too many bullshitters in the world, read with caution.

When I started reading ISG I was gullible and took huge expensive trips to places and spent lots of cash only to find out who I listened to.

Either was a bullshitting cheerleader or had way different standards than I.

Do what you want when you read reports like this.

But I operate from the assumption that its all inaccurate / bullshit.

And work from there.

If one monger writes a glowing report about a place, 10000 miles away from your home.

You may want to proceed with caution!![/QUOTE]So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?

EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement.

[QUOTE=KrackJack;2880380]Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.

1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.

2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.

3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.

4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.

5. language barrier with ladies.

6. usual scams if any.

Hitting Bali after this.[/QUOTE]1. It is easy to identify. Or you can ask. In my experience, ladyboys never shy from accepting that they are one.

2. Stay close to the hot spots.

3. Read Forum.

4. Read Forum.

5. Use Google Translae.

6. Scams happen everywhere. Just think twice and stay away from shady places.

Generic reply and probably of no use. Plus I see you are not from this forum so I see no point, Jakarta members share and participate, knock knock.

[QUOTE=Scarer;2880560]1. It is easy to identify. Or you can ask. In my experience, ladyboys never shy from accepting that they are one.

2. Stay close to the hot spots.

3. Read Forum.

4. Read Forum.

5. Use Google Translae.

6. Scams happen everywhere. Just think twice and stay away from shady places.[/QUOTE]

"So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?

EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement. ".

I rest my case!!

"I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed. ".

"Also every girl there was below 25" SERIOUSLY.

Probably every venue I visited the MAJORITY was over 25.

Kings Cross CJs BATs KI Travel Classic Malio and some smaller brothels et al.

So you were either very drunk or very blind.

Yes most of these venues are very very dark.

Also every girl there was below 25? But seriously? Now me thinks you are deliberately into fibbing.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2880473]
"I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience".
[/QUOTE]Keep those words in mind! They apply to yourself too!

"Keep those words in mind! They apply to yourself too!

Incoherent much?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2880588]"I found all types there. Interestingly even some very slim girls had decent sized natural tits. But also found some skinny flat chested ones. And many with womanly curves. Didn't see porky ones like in the Phils. Also every girl there was below 25. And no fake boobs and few tats. I was highly impressed. ".

"Also every girl there was below 25" SERIOUSLY.

Probably every venue I visited the MAJORITY was over 25.

Kings Cross CJs BATs KI Travel Classic Malio and some smaller brothels et al.

So you were either very drunk or very blind.

Yes most of these venues are very very dark.



Also every girl there was below 25? But seriously? Now me thinks you are deliberately into fibbing.[/QUOTE]Ok Dude. If that makes you happier in your miserable existence to just sit there and criticize my accurate and detailed report of my personal experience, go ahead. If you have actual experience you could post your own TR. But its much easier to take pot shots at other people who actually contribute useful and meaningful reports isn't it? Especially when you probably don't even have a passport. Go to the Pattaya forum and link up with other trolls there you will at least have some company of other losers. LOL.

It seems some are finding mommie's basement a bit underwelming over Christmas, so here they are to spread the misery. Once they can venture outside again (or get bored from lack of responses, hint hint people) they'll move on.

Unfortunately that still leaves us wishing for September next year to roll around sooner rather than later. I doubt we'll get a minute by minute report on the most planned three days ever in the history of visting Jakarta though.

Maybe AI can be set up to automatically provide the most appropriate response to the standard "girl friendly hotel / places to find girls / contact numbers / hold my hand and show me" requests: RTFF.

That's enough, need to save my typing quota for the responses to the real genuine girls I've met in Indo in response to 'send 200 k (it's always 200 k) for nude videos / photos' or 'sakit mother / father / child / baby / mami send money' or even 'when you back. I miss you bebe' so my time there is maximised. Which won't be detailed here in a blow by blow report.

[QUOTE=HunchBack74;2879620]I lived and worked in Jakarta 20 odd years ago. Back then the go to places were CJ's and be. A. T. S to pick up freelancers at around IDR350 K per pop ST, IDR500 k LT and the occasional 9/10's asking for around IDR700 K. Blok M was also very much alive, and there were places like Tiga Puluh (had a few good nights) and also Blowfish, Dragonfly etc.

So this trip was very much a walk down memory lane. Staying in the Harmoni area. Some decent hotels (Yello, Harris, Grand Mercure (around there. Walking distance to Malio and close to Classic, Travel etc.
........
.[/QUOTE]I like your report as it is equivalent to my experience from the past and expectations nowadays.

Contrary to other monger destinations, the prices did not change as much. Except the demands of 2 Mio and more of the more mature and "frequently-fucked" ladies at BAT's and Cj's. In the panti pijat you can apparently still find the younger, less professional generation to treat you well as bule.

What is totally gone are the brothel-areas for a 70.000 Rps ST. But well. I still will give it a try again in near future on memory lane.

[QUOTE=KrackJack;2880380]Was down with covid and in between RTFF done. Thanks expat for your kind words of encouragement. I have a few Q's, please be nice and reply.

1. Need to be vary of ladyboys? Lots of them in SEA.

2. mongers are complaining of the horrendous traffic, any which way to get past this, like grab bike rides.

3. Any BJ bars like in thailand.

4. top 3 punting houses and any for INTERNATIONAL talent.

5. language barrier with ladies.

6. usual scams if any.

Hitting Bali after this.[/QUOTE]Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.

1.

Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.

2.

Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.

3.

Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.

4.

Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.

5.

Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?

6.

Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.

Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.

We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2880866]Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.[/QUOTE]This was one of the first issues I brought up on this forum, and was lambasted for it. So, now that you mention it, I'll ask again: How much of a danger are the 'Sharia police' to western mongers? Details appreciated.

So first impressions: some of the feedback here is great but perhaps a little out of date. SIM Card at airport costs like 350 k, the bluebird taxis ask for 450 k, the app ones charge 265 k. Had some dinner at the Gajah Mada food court, not great. Went to Classic around 10 pm, it's true what they say about how pushy the mamasan are, very annoying. I wanted to get a feel of the place, and they literally won't take no for an answer. Perhaps my expectations were too high but the talent, whilst not terrible, wasn't great. I wasn't even in the mood but just to run the course, I settled for a young lady who was easy on the eye. Not bad service but it's not something you would necessarily want to travel thousands of miles for. Jkk isn't mindblowing. Anyway, I hope to meet a Tinder date and go to some other places mentioned in the forum so hopefully things will get better.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2880948]This was one of the first issues I brought up on this forum, and was lambasted for it. So, now that you mention it, I'll ask again: How much of a danger are the 'Sharia police' to western mongers? Details appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.

Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.

Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.

Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.

It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2880558]So instead of impinging on my credibility why don't you actually post a trip report?

EDIT: I went and looked at all your recent posts. You are just a troll. Probably jerking off in mommy basement.[/QUOTE]He was on the Colombian forum a few years back. He has never been anywhere or done anything. Everyone from the Colombian forum were saying the same thing: "troll", "mom's basement", etc, etc, and so on. ADMINs need to delete his access to this entire website!

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2880866]Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.

1.

Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.

2.

Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.

3.

Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.

4.

Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.

5.

Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?

6.

Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.

Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.

We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2881031]Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.

Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.

Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.

Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.

It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.[/QUOTE]Damn good advice OS. I wish somebody had told me that before the first time I set foot in Tanamur. Can somebody please put links to these in the "Reports of Distinction" thread, to preserve them for posterity?

Thanks OS for the well defined reply. I like the grab feel option, will opt for it when in town to get started early.

And I had the same 3 choices as yours, can you share 1001 for intl chicks, was it called 1001 colosseum or 1001 pool. Wasn't it shut, if still open great will visit for sure. Where is it, for translation will have my translator handy. And finally thanks for the alert on police and scams. Will watchout for them.

My hotel has an in-house spa, can anyone tell me what is the going rate if I ask a lady to see me in my room.

Can anyone recommend nice FS spas near Manga Bessar area, I stay close by.

And finally which levels of classic & travel are doable and which ones to pass. Which bars to hit in malio and kota indah complex. I know Starmoon is pretty good.

Thanks a ton, guys.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2880866]Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.

1.

Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.

2.

Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.

3.

Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.

4.

Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.

5.

Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?

6.

Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.

Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.

We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.[/QUOTE]

This posts helps everyone, IMHO. I am in Jakarta soon. Thanks OS again. I had all these Q's and many more.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2880866]Hello good sir. OS shall now help you with your enquiries. Please excuse the delay in replying. OS has been busy attending other matters.

1.

Ladyboys. Yes definitely around. Your safest bet is to have the request for no ladyboys saved on your phone in the local dialect " Gue ngilir banci". Show this to any in your circle of assistance, hotel concierges, mamasans, etc etc.

2.

Jakarta traffic can be horrendous. You are correct. OS would recommend the by Grab which is the predominant motorcycle taxi service. They have a new service called Grab Feel. With only young female riders and as the name suggests with relatively modest charge, your hands are free to wander during the ride. This will ensure you arrive at your destination all barred up and ready for action.

3.

Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.

4.

Top three punting houses. Classic, Malioboro and Travel For INTERNATIONAL. Go to 1001.

5.

Language barriers with the ladies. Well you're in Indonesia. The girls may speak Javanese, Sundanese, Bahasa Indonesia and if lucky. English. What were you hoping for?

6.

Scams. You may be subsceptible here. The 100 scam is doing the rounds just now. An Indonesian will approach you and ask if they can hold your wallet. After you give it to them they will then ask you to close your eyes and count to 100. The really funny bit is when you open your eyes. There's so many of them and they all look the same. You can't work out which one you gave your wallet to. It's a deceptively simple scam and a number of posters here have fallen for it, some more than once.

Lastly, beware of the Sharia police, they have a habit of knowing what seedy old farts like you are up to. A lashing at their hands is never enjoyable.

We are all really excited you are coming to Jakarta and ditto all those Balinese waiting for you to hit them.[/QUOTE]

Dude, you're hilarious! Brilliant post. Unfortunately, your irony / sarcasm is lost on some.

Grab Feel. LOL.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2881031]Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.

Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.

Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.

Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.

It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.[/QUOTE]

So I thought it wouldn't get worse. Day two I had a tinder date, in fact 2, lined up. Cancelled the one with hot chick. Proceeded with the older lady on the premise she could potentially be a longer term / more serious thing. She chooses one of the most expensive places in town, takes me an hour getting there. She's older than she looks (and as she later intimites is a lot older than she said). She greets me with real affection and I thought we were about to make out. We approach the table, and there's a guy sitting there, she says it's her son. I think "wtf? No wait I mean, "WTF?" Am I in a Friends episode?

So I keep it cool and we proceed to the meal, it's difficult to make conversation as my head is still reeling, and her English is very poor. She signals her real interest in making it a real relationship before we've even had the drinks. I'm thinking of how to bail out. It's clear they want dinner. I resign myself to the evening. She wants later to know what we do after the dinner. I make my excuses on the basis that I'm not feeling great, which tbh I am really not. The bill comes to 1 Million. She signals she would appreciate money for her taxi. I give another 100 k. Whatever. It'll just have to come out of the starving children's charity budget. I take my Grab taxi but at the last stretch decide to rescue the evening by diverting to Classic.

On the ground floor I hadn't noticed there was another disco. I ask the receptionist if it's the same entry as the 2nd floor. He says it is. I go in, there are fair looking but completely indifferent looking girls and pretty empty. I decide to bail to the 2nd floor. It's clear I have to pay twice. That annoys me and despite paying I petulantly throw the exit pass on the receptionist desk. He gets angry in return and we argue. I ultimately control my anger and the other receptionist tells him to let it go. I feel later a little annoyed with myself. Yes, he screwed me, but what's the point of making a fuss for a couple of bucks? The darling earlier stiffed me for 30 x the amount.

Decide to choose an Indo girl from the overbearing mamasan. She is a little better than the one yesterday. However, my request for a mandi kucing (a term introduced by a helpful gent here) she finds hilarious but refuses to provide. Later she asks for a tip. I give her 100 k. Should I have? Who knows. The security on the way out asks for a tip for no valid reason. My pocket lighter and my heart and mind heavier I decide to call it a night. Let's see what the next few days bring.

Maybe there are secret hidden forums here where WE are being made fun of. Maybe some here on this forum are simply high functioning autistic. I am un-sure but the last 2 or 3 pages of posts here make me question my sanity and intelligence. Maybe it's me being sober and having post nut clarity after a binge of unmentionables.

Are there some members dense enough to not realize they are the super glue Butt of a joke? Masterfully played gentlemen. I am in awe of the responses to some posts here.

Your trip sounds awful. I'd just stick to pay as you go forget tinder, and other apps most of the time they don't show and make excuses and cancel if they are serious make them come to you. Lots of time lost in traffic trying to meet them to forget that. Just try out as many places as you can. Forget arranging dates waste of time and Energy. How do you access this forum from Jakarta? I couldn't gain access.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2881202]So I thought it wouldn't get worse. Day two I had a tinder date, in fact 2, lined up. Cancelled the one with hot chick. Proceeded with the older lady on the premise she could potentially be a longer term / more serious thing. She chooses one of the most expensive places in town, takes me an hour getting there. She's older than she looks (and as she later intimites is a lot older than she said). She greets me with real affection and I thought we were about to make out. We approach the table, and there's a guy sitting there, she says it's her son. I think "wtf? No wait I mean, "WTF?" Am I in a Friends episode?

So I keep it cool and we proceed to the meal, it's difficult to make conversation as my head is still reeling, and her English is very poor. She signals her real interest in making it a real relationship before we've even had the drinks. I'm thinking of how to bail out. It's clear they want dinner. I resign myself to the evening. She wants later to know what we do after the dinner. I make my excuses on the basis that I'm not feeling great, which tbh I am really not. The bill comes to 1 Million. She signals she would appreciate money for her taxi. I give another 100 k. Whatever. It'll just have to come out of the starving children's charity budget. I take my Grab taxi but at the last stretch decide to rescue the evening by diverting to Classic..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2880797]Ok Dude. If that makes you happier in your miserable existence to just sit there and criticize my accurate and detailed report of my personal experience, go ahead. If you have actual experience you could post your own TR. But its much easier to take pot shots at other people who actually contribute useful and meaningful reports isn't it? Especially when you probably don't even have a passport. Go to the Pattaya forum and link up with other trolls there you will at least have some company of other losers. LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey, the Marquis is treating you with kid gloves. He's called me a full blown psychopath and thinks I'm trying to bring back slavery. For some reason he also seems to think I'm taking advantage of Asian slave labor and depriving Americans of jobs. That's all B.S. of course. If anything I overpay Third World hookers.

Good report BTW, I enjoyed it.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2881028]Went to Classic around 10 pm, it's true what they say about how pushy the mamasan are, very annoying. I wanted to get a feel of the place, and they literally won't take no for an answer. Perhaps my expectations were too high but the talent, whilst not terrible, wasn't great.[/QUOTE]Imo 10 pm is a bit late to go to Classic or Travel. Better off going at 6 or 7 pm. Just start walking around to the other groups of girls that don't belong to that mamasan. Just pretend mamasan is an annooying ex-GF who wants you back. The other more sure fire way is to agree to see every single girl from the mamasan who's following you around. After you reject every single one of them she will leave you alone. Once you become a known face at Classic, Travel or any other Jakarta bar mama / papasans are no longer a bother. In fact, they become very useful if you are looking for a girl you liked before or to let you know which girl is brand new.

The nominal cover charge is removed once you buy a drink or two. If you are known to the Classic staff you will also be allowed in and out as you wish with no cover.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2881270]Your trip sounds awful. I'd just stick to pay as you go forget tinder, and other apps most of the time they don't show and make excuses and cancel if they are serious make them come to you. Lots of time lost in traffic trying to meet them to forget that. Just try out as many places as you can. Forget arranging dates waste of time and Energy. How do you access this forum from Jakarta? I couldn't gain access.[/QUOTE]I think you're right. My Tinder inbox is burgeoning but after last night I'm twice shy. VPN is your friend in Jakarta. I use Windscribe which is free up to 20 GB per month, and if you install the chrome extension you can easily switch it on or off as needed.

Grab Feel is the best service I've never heard of this year. Actually make that next year as well.

I'm sticking to this service from now on to distract me from the terror of those sharia snipers dotted down the CBD. Lucky they're crap shots eh?

But I'm guessing OS survives his merry jaunts due to his dress sense. Tented up, I suppose you might even be able to play 'On Golden Pond' whilst grabbing a feel on the trip. Cmon OS, we know you have.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2881031]Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.

Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.

Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.

Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available. You can walk up to the bus stop and pretend to be reading the timetable and then just walk away nonchalantly, leaving behind a pile or a puddle depending on your movement.

It sounds scary but with a little subterfuge. The sharia police are quite easy to negotiate.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the valuable info.

Would a checkered sarong draw too much attention? If so, maybe I can go with more muted earth tones, like "dust", or "smog"? Want to blend in seamlessly with my drab surroundings.

Also, it's come to my attention that the typical annual salary in JK is about 104 m IDR. That breaks down to less than $130/ wk. I'm rather on the cheap side. Would it be ok if I sewed $20 bills into my shirt instead? $100 bills seems rather extravagant. I'd probably save a bundle this way when dealing with the Sharia police, all while keeping my modest profile.

"he was on the Colombian forum a few years back. He has never been anywhere or done anything. Everyone from the Colombian forum were saying the same thing: "troll", "mom's basement", etc, etc, and so on. ADMINs need to delete his access to this entire website!

Its you again that homeless looking creepy stalker that wrote about stalking thetallman in the bushes in Medellin.

Now you are stalking me lololol keep your distance bro, I bite lololol.

And you also wrote how pinay hookers "walk on water" LMAO don't you belong back at that psychotic Medellin stupid shit thread? I'm sure those other whack jobs miss you? LOL NOT.

I'm guessing you don't remember meeting me a few years ago, you were probably in another alcoholic blackout.

You are the filthiest dirtiest nastiest disgusting monger I've ever met, you are even much worse than the homeless druggies rolling around in their own shit in the Bronx in Medellin.

You really need to bathe sometime bro, you give mongering a bad name!!

This is who to avoid when traveling in Jakarta. They can also be seen on the way to Classic. Alchemy is illegal in Indonesia. So instead of Gold They make Silver. This is an under-cover Sharia Law Enforcer: Wilayatul Hisbah.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2881028]the bluebird taxis ask for 450 k[/QUOTE]What? Did you see the meter in operation? From CGK to Thamrin, its about 200 k and that's pretty rich. You add about 40 k in highway tolls as you usually pass three booths to save quite a bit of time. So about 130 k meter, 40 k tolls, and another 40 k generous tip.

You have to make sure you're in an actual bluebird. There are light blue taxis with the corporate symbol painted on the car and it's not a bluebird. (Rare) more frequently are just no name cabs and they will 100% rip you off by either over metering you or by pre negotiating a double or triple rate. Also, silver birds are upscale bluebirds and legit cost more.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2880866]
Blowjob bars. Sadly, not anymore. In days gone by you could be fellated whilst enjoying your beer at Dee's Place bar in Blok M. Why OS remebers dumping a load of cum with his big thing into some maiden sitting on a bar stool in the corner there. Then finishing his beer, getting up and leaving. While she squatted over the waste paper basket scooping out all his splooge.
[/QUOTE]Well, walking down memory lane, who remembers My Place (Bali Hai)? When you sit on a barstool, in a specific corner, you will be approached by several not very young women to give you a massage, a rub and / or a blowjob.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2881337]Imo 10 pm is a bit late to go to Classic or Travel. Better off going at 6 or 7 pm. Just start walking around to the other groups of girls that don't belong to that mamasan. Just pretend mamasan is an annooying ex-GF who wants you back. The other more sure fire way is to agree to see every single girl from the mamasan who's following you around. After you reject every single one of them she will leave you alone. Once you become a known face at Classic, Travel or any other Jakarta bar mama / papasans are no longer a bother. In fact, they become very useful if you are looking for a girl you liked before or to let you know which girl is brand new.

The nominal cover charge is removed once you buy a drink or two. If you are known to the Classic staff you will also be allowed in and out as you wish with no cover.[/QUOTE]Yes, your strategy works. The mamasans were a lot less annoying this time. My experience with Classic thus far is there's nothing wrong with it once you get the hang of the situation, but not entirely sure it's my scene. It is a meat market, and the girls all look bored or not wanting to be there. Bit of a turn off. Think I will broaden my horizons a little by focusing more on the independents. Am in discussion with one who agreed to spend 2 nights for a very decent price. She wants me to pay her train ticket which is taking a leap of faith but I may take the plunge.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2881601]What? Did you see the meter in operation? From CGK to Thamrin, its about 200 k and that's pretty rich. You add about 40 k in highway tolls as you usually pass three booths to save quite a bit of time. So about 130 k meter, 40 k tolls, and another 40 k generous tip.

You have to make sure you're in an actual bluebird. There are light blue taxis with the corporate symbol painted on the car and it's not a bluebird. (Rare) more frequently are just no name cabs and they will 100% rip you off by either over metering you or by pre negotiating a double or triple rate. Also, silver birds are upscale bluebirds and legit cost more.[/QUOTE]Interesting, maybe I got suckered. It was (at least I think) a genuine Bluebird kiosk and they told me it was a fixed rate I specified earlier. I eventually chose the Gojek at 260, which also is not cheap relative to your example.

I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV.

Airport is big and people are quite helpful and friendly. They are happy to assist you. Once I landed, visa on arrival was breeze as I had taken it online before travel. It took less than 5 mins. You nees to fill in the customs declaration online by scanning QR code which is displayed all across. Connect to CUSTOMS DEC WiFi and scan the QR code to fill in your details. There was a dog squad that sniffed my arse and that's it. You will find a SIM shop to your left once you exit. No esim is available for tourist. I also checked on IMEI registration with an official and I was told that it is not needed for max 90 days stay.

Departure.

Was again easy at immigration. Took 20 minutes to the final gate. Free WiFi is available only at gate F6. Sit here if you don't have internet on phone. Shops are before security checking and few food stalls near to the gate. My flight was at afternoon and the airport was not busy at all.

Money exchange - Many available in the city.1$ was 153000.A$50 got me 1000 less surprisingly.So, carry 100 bills.

Transportation.

You will find many private and app based taxis like grab, bluebird etc. I didn't had internet, so I used private taxi when I arrived. Cost was 250 K to Santika Premier Hotel near holiday Inn. My return taxi on grab costed 150 k for comparison. Download grab app which is very reliable and can be used for taxi, food ordering etc. You can pay by cash after each ride. I also used grab and gojek motorbike by directly talking to rider from clasic and travel back to hotel. They are available outside the gate usually or ask security to help stop one. Taxi were expensive to 4 times when I checked.

Where to stay.

I stayed at Santika premiere which was an excellent 4 star hotel. 5 minutes to travel and 8 mins to classic. Bes was great. Room service was excellent too. Breakfast was great with a seperate section for Indonesian cusine. Staff were very very helpful in all aspects. There is a restaurant at lobby level and also at 22nd floor. Sky loungue was not great and I did not find any freelancers here as mentioned by someone. Room was huge but there was no jacuzzi if you are looking for one. This property is totally green for girl guests. I had booked for two people. I had multiple girls visiting my room on same day and two guests visited together. I had a guest at 2 am also. No questions asked. Lift need access control but reception was kind enough to guide the guests after you call them and Inorm.

Generic Observations.

Most girls are muslims. Escorts so not wear hijab but you will see most wearing elsewhere. They seriously know how to carry it. Dressing sense is very good. They are quite liberal in thinking. I found many girls as single parents as they tend to get married at a very early age and get divorced equally soon. They are proud about being single and strong and do not feel bad or so.

Body Type. Fair Skin, gym toned bodies and most had great ass including 45 yrs old. You will find short and tall ones. Tits are brown or black. Pussies are brown to pink. Curvy is treated ugly and obese and skinny / slim as sexy. I was with a curvy girl and had many eyes on us.

Attitude. Very outgoing, friendly and GFE material. They do not steal or cheat but be cautious. No dramas.

Where to find Girls.

A) Spa & Massage.

There are massage parlours and Spas everywhere around. Do not hesitate to ask if sex is included. As mentioned by one senior earlier, Sugar Spa was walkable from my hotel. Walked down and was guided to first floor (they call it second floor so don't get confused). There was a seating area where you are showed pics on ipad. I asked to see the girls and they were lined up too. It was 675 k including massage and sex. Rooms are clean with queen bed. Quality of girls was great and the massage was also quite good. You can see the pics of available girls in their WA status.

B) Classic, Travel, Kings Cross etc.

Travel was 4 minutes from hotel and classic was 8 mins. I found that the variety was huge at both places. For classic, take left after you enter the main door to find escalator (not lift). Second floor is where the action is. Procedure is well documented so will not write much. Prices are 365 K for. One and 500 K for two incluses room. Tips can be 100 k but none demanded. I found room attendents at travel little pushy for tips. Heard from a friend that quality at Kings Cross was much better but was far off from my hotel. Let's wait to hear from him. You get a numbered band. Pay cash for girl and rest are billed to the number which you settle finally. At classic, billing is inside and it's at exit for travel. At both the places, I was not asked for any minimum spend. Pais for the girl and that's it.

C) Online.

Tinder does work but need lot of patience. I managed to hook up with four. Price quoted as from 700 K to 3 M depending on your bargaining skills. Most will accept for video call confirmation. If the girl moves to WhatsApp chat, it's likely that she would hookup.

Escort portals- Girls are registered as escorts in many portals. They ask $100-300 per hour. But 500 k-1 M seem ok for 3 hours. List of sites where the girl I met she was registered are devozki, loconto, escort Jakarta,[URL]cityoflove.com[/URL].

Friends Of Friends- Most girls will not mind to refer their friends if available. So, ask for it. You may end up threesome too. Girls at classic etc do share their numbers to meet outside to make more money. Heard from one girl that she get 150 k from the 365 charged. Few act as agents also.

Hotel on-call Massage. - tried my luck with pinch of hesitation but turned out to be genuine except that girl was not great and didn't match pic. Who cares at 300 k for a quick release though.

Others.

Look around for opportunities including hotel reception etc. If you are little flirty, chances are high. But why waste time when you are here for mongering.

All girls had good DFK skills and it's available by default. None refused DATY too. Girls at Classic etc pretend to be involved but it's more a script based and we cannot complain when they meet 6 a day.

Non Mongering Activities.

City tour.

Beach.

Bandung is a hill station and is 200 km from Jakarta. You can see valcono crater here.

Shopping at Malls.

Eating out.

I felt travelling alone even at late nights very safe. There was no hint of mugging or grab riders trying to take advantage.

Conclusion. I have only visited Thailand before. So cannot compare with others. I likd Jakarta than Thailand but is not as open as pattaya for sure. It's more hidden but available everywhere and you will not regret going here for mongering and good food. You will have great memories. Visit before it become another commercialised pattaya.

The one to the right in green passes the Light Test. The light test is when you have your lady bend over, turn around so her ass faces you and you can see Light pass thru her ass. This is actually a Fat test. Since only thin or fitness chicks have this attribute. Here are 2 from Bandung. One I taped and one I would like too. Both are thin.

"Hey, the Marquis is treating you with kid gloves. He's called me a full blown psychopath and thinks I'm trying to bring back slavery. For some reason he also seems to think I'm taking advantage of Asian slave labor and depriving Americans of jobs. That's all be. S. Of course. If anything I overpay Third World hookers.

Good report BTW, I enjoyed it. ".

So Ill try this.

Well here is a report on your favorite place.

[URL]https://www.state.gov/reports/2021-report-on-international-religious-freedom/china/xinjiang/[/URL]

If you really want to realize your lifes DREAM of being a SLAVEMASTER you know where to go!!

But remember Karma is a beech.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2881260]Maybe there are secret hidden forums here where WE are being made fun of. [/QUOTE]Yes. The Grab FEEL option was hidden until OS lifted the curtain.
Recommended - but advance booking is required. Tips are optional.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2881760]I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.

I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.

I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.

IMHO.

"I've been reading several posts here that describe experiences very different than my own (and of several buddies who I met up with). I think it comes down to this. If you are American and want a Western mongering experience like the kind you get in Thailand or Philippines you will be disappointed. If you want a girl to play games with you, and flirt and pretend they like you while you buy overpriced drinks, then Jakarta is really not for you. I have lived in Asia long enough to appreciate the Asian style of mongering. The mamasans, the line ups, the fishbowls and green laser pointers are all fine by me and I personally find it fun to "shop" for girls that way. Most of my buddies were Asian American and also comfortable with this. So YMMV is real but it mostly depends on what you expect to find. Jakarta is not Bangkok or Pattaya. You could go to limited places like Malio and get the drinks and fuck experience but it will cost more. The local scene which is cheap and plentiful works in a different way and if that's not for you just go to Thailand. As always, YMMV. ".

Don't let it happen again!!

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881910]I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.

I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.

I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.

IMHO.[/QUOTE]It's not about the city, it's about the girls. Chicks in JK are the hottest in SE Asia, imo.

[QUOTE=JoeBrooklyn;2882027]It's not about the city, it's about the girls. Chicks in JK are the hottest in SE Asia, imo.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to Jakarta?

[QUOTE=Belvaros;2881910]I do NOT like JK as a destination outside the food. Your analysis = 100/100.

I did have a great time at BATS. Classic, Malio and Sugar massage but the hassle for me of not being able to walk and having the Mamasan overload annoyances means I won't return.

I may go back to other parts of Indo just for the experience but the island of Java, meh.

IMHO.[/QUOTE]Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2882300]Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away![/QUOTE]I miss the fake tits and ladyboys in Bangkok. NOT!

I live in Pattaya but I'll be out in Jakarta in February looking forward to it. Pattaya is cool but it's very commercial and while I think it still great it gets a lot of newbie mongers as dudes are all over the internet place like youtube telling dudes to go and how it's cheap and great not realizing that doing that is going to change that. Anyway from what you guys have shared I'm sure it going to be a good time I'll write a report.

Gents -.

I went to check the'Heaven based on positive feedbacks from this blog. Its not far from the SCBD and Senayan Ciy Mall. I took MRT there, so get off at Block A and walk 7 minutes. Its in a plaza with other sketchy mens spas like Delta. But this place doesn't feel too sketchy.

When you walk in the lobby, the front desk will gives locker key and brief explaination of price. I didn't fully understand. Something between 600-800 K based on room type and sex / no sex, VIP and no VIP room. Then they point you to elevator and go to 2nd floor. I suggest you take stairs because can take long time wait.

On 2nd floor there is another desk with 'mamasans' who will show you the photos of girls based on your preferences (sex, no sex, skinny, big boobies, good performance). They showed me a few photos. I was skeptical, so I elected for the one who looked most decent in photos. No sex. They wanted me to sit in waiting area, but I was impatience and asked to go quick to room.

Then I was taken to my room on 3rd floor. I picked Mila (or something like that). She was much more attractive than photos. Skinny, short and big saggy boobs. Had a great time with her. Decent massage for 20 minutes, and then another 20 minutes of ball rubbing and BJ and then hand climax. I elected no sex. And I can tell she was wearing a tampon, so that is probably why she was lower price and no sex.

Total I paid was 675 K. Nice thing is no one asked me for tips. I checked out the spa facilities, they were pretty average. Not as nice as what I see at Fortune at sudirman area. But quality of girls I think is much better and loww price. I wish I can see girls first and not ipad.

I will come back again. Can be nice after strees work meetings.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;2882396]I miss the fake tits and ladyboys in Bangkok. NOT![/QUOTE]Yeah, and the tats too. There's nothing like setting sail on an eight-and-a-half-thousand-mile marathon, only to hook up with skanks that are facsimiles of the ones you left behind.

"Yeah I hate it when mama sans offer me line ups of dozens of hot women so I can choose one or two to fuck for under 30 bucks. The horror of it all! Stay away!

You have a very negative credibility rating here so why do you keep posting??

Do you think you can just sweep that bullshit under the rug??

I've done most of my mongering in Central and South America, and so my first intro to the SE Asia was in Jakarta. I have to say that I'm not absolutely into the bodies of Asian girls, but what they lack in that department, they make up for in enthusiasm. I'm probably wrong about this, but I didn't really find Jakarta that interesting as a city. The food became pretty repetitive, I guess Padang has just really taken over everything. After eating my fill of Bakso, or Bubur, or Nasi Goreng, I ended up looking for something else. Perhaps just me.

Anyway, the mongering was pretty straightforward as well. I want to thank the veterans who are on this forum in providing the basic stuff that any beginner needs to get their feet (wet in Indonesia. It seemed to me the easiest thing to do was the All-in-one hotel / spa / nightclub setup that pretty much dots the downtown area of Jakarta. The two I tried were Classic and Travel.

Unfortunately, I got to Hotel Travel a bit too early, but since I only had a short layover, I didn't have too many options. Pretty easy setup. The entrance to the nightclub is to the left of the hotel entrance. I believe they opened around 2 pm, but I got there at 1, and the hotel staff said I could go in anyway. So I go in there sit in the dark, and look at the lovely ladies sitting around in the spotlight. Mamasan asked me for what I wanted, and she asked for 360 k. I gave her 400 k and she said the 40 k was a tip to her. Whatever right? My first time. Up we went, do our thing. My girl and I didn't really click. Language was definitely a barrier. I learn some phrases prior to coming to Indonesia. The Pimsleur method I found was the best. Still, despite this, I could not get any emotion out of this girl, so this ended up being a subpar experience.

Well, after diving in Raja Ampat for a couple weeks, I came back to Jakarta for more fun. The touristy stuff was pretty terrible I thought, or maybe I just didn't do any research. I got pretty tired of malls and these Obelisks that the Indonesians seem to be obsessed with. This time, I booked a couple of days at Classic hotel. It is basically the same setup as hotel travel. If anything though, the hallways of the rooms are better lit. I checked into my internal hotel room (meaning the window view is the inside of the hotel), and proceeded to explore the entertainment options. I quickly booked a massage. There's a full on spa in the hotel, with Sauna and Jacuzzi and workout room. I was of course just interested in the massage. I pulled a indonesian girl who I ended up repeating several times. She was fantastic, full GFE. She essentially became the highlight of my whole trip. This also ended me exploring other options around town.

Well this report has gone on too long as it is. That's it for now.

I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.

I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?

Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.

[QUOTE=Elkins;2882704]I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.

I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?

Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.[/QUOTE]Last time I visited was over 5 years ago and back then you could find FL's in side streets along Loksari plaza (location of infamous Today Country). There used to be a mamasan outside Mcdonalds, she hooked me up. If you have time check out Safari and 189 near Loksari plaza, when I was there they had FLs on site as well as contracted girls. Not sure if they have been closed down or operating under the radar. Failing that, you could try the dating apps but avoid any that ask for a down payment.

[QUOTE=Elkins;2882704]I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.

I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?

Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess.[/QUOTE]What is travel? I typed on Google map travel but could only see Travelodge and travel spa? Is it a spa thing? What's the price?

Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.

Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.

[QUOTE=HelloYou;2882834]Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.

Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.[/QUOTE]You're a persistent guy to be scammed 5 times on MiChat. Curious what the initial offers were and how much you paid.

"Hotel Travel Jakarta".

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2882835]You're a persistent guy to be scammed 5 times on MiChat. Curious what the initial offers were and how much you paid.

"Hotel Travel Jakarta".[/QUOTE]Ah great thanks. So they Will give a quote like 600-800 and I can counter any number even as low as 150 but usually around 300 and they will accept.

But then the service is super shit. Like they want to finish as soon as you start. They will say all service included but when you arrive she doesn't want to even remove her clothes no blowjob AND she's also bleeding on period.

I've got all sort of issues for each of them. I think I did pay full price once when the asking price was 400 but it was still a super shitty experience.

I kept trying because michat has really lots of girls. I was hoping I end up with exceptions and also hoping to find a gem. But really I only had issues.

Would be keen to hear your experience. Maybe if you pay the full asking price the service is better but I don't dare. Photos are bait and switches, agreed service even confirmed verbally AND written are not honoured. It makes me think everything is so much better when there's a pimp 🤣.

A bit like Uber VS the normal taxi driver charging a fortune. If they can scam they WILL scam you.

If you want them to come to your hotel they will ask you to send money to pay for the taxi. But I think you will have high probability the girl will just keep the money and try finding another dude to scam.

It's a logic that I really have trouble to understand because they could have so much more if they just try to build a bit of customer service. But all they can think of is a quick scam.

I suppose in these instance the saying 1 bird in your hand is better than 10 birds in the bushes rings much truer for these girls. Especially if they are independent.

[QUOTE=ThePrince1127;2882768]Last time I visited was over 5 years ago and back then you could find FL's in side streets along Loksari plaza (location of infamous Today Country). There used to be a mamasan outside Mcdonalds, she hooked me up. If you have time check out Safari and 189 near Loksari plaza, when I was there they had FLs on site as well as contracted girls. Not sure if they have been closed down or operating under the radar. Failing that, you could try the dating apps but avoid any that ask for a down payment.[/QUOTE]I got approached by street freelance in Kemayoran area and I was interested. But the lady said she was with her mother and wanted both of them to come. I of course refused and said I can only accept 1 person and her mother has to wait outside.

For which they just ask me to give them money to eat because they are hungry and wanted like 50 rb or more.

I thought they looked fat enough to not need money to eat and one of them could benefit from a diet. But I did not dare say anything.

So just refused and took her WhatsApp.

Later I tried again to meet the girl one on one but she always refused then ask for money.

Never went further than that.

Hey SuperLove,

When are you going to pay it forward with a few detailed reports of your visit? You hit me up up for tons of PM advice, which I tried to help with. Give back to the forum. Especially how did the Grab Feel work out for you? .

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2881123]This posts helps everyone, IMHO. I am in Jakarta soon. Thanks OS again. I had all these Q's and many more.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SteelBaton;2882857]Hey SuperLove,

When are you going to pay it forward with a few detailed reports of your visit? You hit me up up for tons of PM advice, which I tried to help with. Give back to the forum. Especially how did the Grab Feel work out for you? .[/QUOTE]How to get Grab feel? I thought it was a joke? I never had the feel option on the grab app.

[QUOTE=HelloYou;2882859]How to get Grab feel? I never had the feel option on the grab app.[/QUOTE]It can be a challenge to get GFE in Jakarta. Grab Feel Express (GFE) requires a cash payment upfront to the Female driver. The larger the payment the more Touch and Feel you get. Good luck!

For high-speed FL's maybe some will like what was in front of my hotel this past October. This is a pic of the general area. Just go to the McDonalds on the left of Ibis hotel. In the street around 3 AM you will see ladies smoking cloves and maybe even something stronger approach you. The guy escorting them will clap clap as if to signify "smash smash" with his hands. There were quite a few and while I did not partake. I can see how some guys would like this option. They were always hanging out late night early morning - as I would walk past them on the way to IndoMart. Noteworthy is that Malio club is just on the other side of the street to the left....

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2882861]It can be a challenge to get GFE in Jakarta. Grab Feel Express (GFE) requires a cash payment upfront to the Female driver. The larger the payment the more Touch and Feel you get. Good luck![/QUOTE]Ahhh I see. Tbh maybe 1 out of 10 driver are female. And when it's a female she's really not pretty or anything ahah. But thanks got it now.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2882864]For high-speed FL's maybe some will like what was in front of my hotel this past October. This is a pic of the general area. Just go to the McDonalds on the left of Ibis hotel. In the street around 3 AM you will see ladies smoking cloves and maybe even something stronger approach you. The guy escorting them will clap clap as if to signify "smash smash" with his hands. There were quite a few and while I did not partake. I can see how some guys would like this option. They were always hanging out late night early morning - as I would walk past them on the way to IndoMart. Noteworthy is that Malio club is just on the other side of the street to the left....[/QUOTE]Street name please?

They are 4 Ibis hotels on google maps and no one is in the expected area.

"I'm old time Blok M'er new to the and Jakarta scene. Thanks all for the advice on the Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, its perfect.

I grow old of the Classic / Travel cafeteria venues and prefer FLs in my hotel room. Any recommendations on a FL locality in the area?

Last night I was walking back from Travel and got approached on the street with an offer I couldn't refuse. Lucky draw I guess. ".

I can tell you there is a st hotel called N1, if you are walking out the front door crack a right and walk 100 meters over the tiny bridge.

Then crack a sharp left down the road that shoots down hill, and stay to the left, I don't know what this area is called but it was the most bizarre area I've ever seen in Asia.

Kind like a movie set for a sequel for Damn of the dead, I saw some really weird shit, including a bunch of whoors and a few cute ones, but I didn't want to see what the rooms.

Were like so I skipped trying any, I walked around for an hour plus it was so "surreal" then it started pouring rain, I mean like a monsoon.

And I was trapped under a bridge, the zombies were everywhere and people were singing Karoke it was wild.

The street flooded with at least 2 feet of water, I couldn't get a grab to pick me up, I was stuck.

But feel free to check it out and report back LOL.

Here's another place called the Grand Tjokro.

I was walking out on a weeknight around 11 pm and there are 2 benches.

Outside the front door.

They had around 10 whoors sitting there.

All in like dresses that they would wear to a wedding or something.

And they asked me if I wanted to party so I chatted the best looking one.

And she kept begging to take her and her friend to my room to party.

I told her I couldn't,someone just took away all my bullets upstairs and I left.

They looked good, but I would say most were late 20's early 30's.

So I don't remember the prices they quoted, I wasnt going back to try them, so I just blew it off.

[QUOTE=MarcusBus;2882884]Street name please?

They are 4 Ibis hotels on google maps and no one is in the expected area.[/QUOTE]14, Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 35, RT. 14/ RW. 1, Kb. Klp. , Jakarta, Kota Jakarta Pusat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta 10120, Indonesia.


Basically the Hayam Wuruk street. I also post this pic I took of the nearest Train stop - get off on this stop and look for the McDonalds next to the IBIS Hotel Harmoni and hang out at 3AM. Wild Chicks... again, I did not partake for a few reasons I won't get into - but there are walkers here!

I was referencing Hotel Travel in Glodok. 11, RT. 11/ RW. 1, Taman Sari, Kec. Taman Sari, Kota Jakarta Barat, Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/zXEEqr6NZrQH3XC18[/URL]

It has, what I call, a cafeteria venue.

[QUOTE=HelloYou;2882834]What is travel? I typed on Google map travel but could only see Travelodge and travel spa? Is it a spa thing? What's the price?

Other than that, you can find plenty of freelance on Michat. Just download the app search nearby and you will see.

Be careful most of them are scam. I tried 5 of them and got scammed almost each time. So be careful doing that. They also make ridiculous offer and you have to counter offer.[/QUOTE]

FR from a recent three night trip.

New Medika: Made an impromptu visit to this local spot. Has a cool neighborhood bar feel to it from back home, everyone having fun enjoying the music and sexy company. Small place with good vibe. Front room is the disco and backroom is bar and lounge area with girls on display seated on stools along four long high tables. About 40-50 girls, all young, packed in there like livestock so it's a bit hard to get a full look at what the bods look like. 400 k for one hour, clean and small room. Girl was reserved, admitted a bit uncomfortable with bules but I put her at ease and we had a great session. Like this place, would be fun to go with a group.

Sugar spa: Small spa with four different price / service categories in suite or VIP room. Choose off a phone and not many options as it was late. Went with Echa from reading previous post, 24 yo with two kids, 610 k. She was a bit fake with all the "oooh baby" talk. Package included BJ which I reminded her and lasted only 10 seconds. Will stick to a place like Dheaven for any future massage.

Travel: Went in the afternoon, was pretty quiet, maybe about 25 girls on showcase. Nothing to my liking so got taken to the back staff room area with another 25 girls or so eating, putting on makeup, etc. Was given a seat, enjoyed the behind the scenes for a minute and was brought over a lineup. Really wanted to sit there and get a good look at everyone but this was their staff area so went ahead and took a 19 yo big chest no baby for an ok session.

Classic: First time there and exceeded expectations. Smoke and mamasans not as bad as imagined. As is well documented here, 6-7 p is the best time to go for most choices. Seems the second shift workers start at 6 p. Wow, girls in all directions, maybe 100-150 total. Was like a kid in a candy store. Almost too many to choose from! Mamas are there to help you friends. Just walk around to different areas if she is a bother. Well put from a recent post, they just want to show you hot girls to fuck! Went twice, both times with cute spinners who were real fun. BB for extra tip and gave a great GFE. One of the girls I saw on my way out the first night. Had a beautiful smile with a unique face, looks a bit like Viet or Chinese and a girl next door style as the only girl with jean shorts. (Later found out mostly foreigners choose her as she doesn't have a look locals prefer) Said Hello, and hope to see her tomorrow. Luckily she was there the next day and had fun from get go as she is grinding up on me as we enjoy some dancing and a drink before we head down. Long live Classic. I love Jakarta.

Hello,

Thanks for the previous posts / replies.

So, how is Jakarta during Ramadan? Are p4 p places like Classic be open?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MarcusBus;2883117]Hello,

Thanks for the previous posts / replies.

So, how is Jakarta during Ramadan? Are p4 p places like Classic be open?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]First couple days and last couple days curing Ramadan is not good for mongering unless you have contacts who can stop by.

Everything in between is normal at places like Classic.

Speaking of New Medika. There is also a club on the 2nd floor above the bar area that has a small selection of ladies. It is 50 K to enter and the dancers in there are in lingerie or see through tops ala Malio Club style. I believe it is 500 K to fuck the dancers on the 2nd floor, but not completely sure.

[QUOTE=GraniteSt8;2883038]FR from a recent three night trip.

New Medika: Made an impromptu visit to this local spot. Has a cool neighborhood bar feel to it from back home, everyone having fun enjoying the music and sexy company. Small place with good vibe. Front room is the disco and backroom is bar and lounge area with girls on display seated on stools along four long high tables. About 40-50 girls, all young, packed in there like livestock so it's a bit hard to get a full look at what the bods look like. 400 k for one hour, clean and small room. Girl was reserved, admitted a bit uncomfortable with bules but I put her at ease and we had a great session. Like this place, would be fun to go with a group.

Sugar spa: Small spa with four different price / service categories in suite or VIP room. Choose off a phone and not many options as it was late. Went with Echa from reading previous post, 24 yo with two kids, 610 k. She was a bit fake with all the "oooh baby" talk. Package included BJ which I reminded her and lasted only 10 seconds. Will stick to a place like Dheaven for any future massage.

Travel: Went in the afternoon, was pretty quiet, maybe about 25 girls on showcase. Nothing to my liking so got taken to the back staff room area with another 25 girls or so eating, putting on makeup, etc. Was given a seat, enjoyed the behind the scenes for a minute and was brought over a lineup. Really wanted to sit there and get a good look at everyone but this was their staff area so went ahead and took a 19 yo big chest no baby for an ok session.

Classic: First time there and exceeded expectations. Smoke and mamasans not as bad as imagined. As is well documented here, 6-7 p is the best time to go for most choices. Seems the second shift workers start at 6 p. Wow, girls in all directions, maybe 100-150 total. Was like a kid in a candy store. Almost too many to choose from! Mamas are there to help you friends. Just walk around to different areas if she is a bother. Well put from a recent post, they just want to show you hot girls to fuck! Went twice, both times with cute spinners who were real fun. BB for extra tip and gave a great GFE. One of the girls I saw on my way out the first night. Had a beautiful smile with a unique face, looks a bit like Viet or Chinese and a girl next door style as the only girl with jean shorts. (Later found out mostly foreigners choose her as she doesn't have a look locals prefer) Said Hello, and hope to see her tomorrow. Luckily she was there the next day and had fun from get go as she is grinding up on me as we enjoy some dancing and a drink before we head down. Long live Classic. I love Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2884104]Speaking of New Medika. There is also a club on the 2nd floor above the bar area that has a small selection of ladies. It is 50 K to enter and the dancers in there are in lingerie or see through tops ala Malio Club style. I believe it is 500 K to fuck the dancers on the 2nd floor, but not completely sure.[/QUOTE]I didn't even know this. Where is the staircase to the 2nd floor club? Can you buy them drinks and get DFK and lap dances like Malio?

The stairs are in the back area where the regular ladies are located. There is a bar in front and on the right as you enter from the main area. Behind the bar or to the left of the bar is the cashier. And behind the cashier or to the left of the cashier are the stairs up. 2nd floor is the club. 3rd floor are the fuck rooms. I also heard New Medika had been remodeled recently, but I am not sure when. It basically looks like a standard KI bar where the regular ladies are located and even how they are seated. There are also stairs in the front area when you first enter New Medika, but I was prevented from going up those stairs.

On the second floor from the back area, there is a desk with 2-3 guys outside and a red door. Inside the red door is the club. The guys outside by the desk will take your 50 K, give you a drink ticket and let you in.

The definitely have the trays of drinks for the dancers like Malio. No idea how much the drinks were. I didn't buy them and didn't ask. But I am sure you could possibly suck some face or at least cop a feel for a certain amount of drinks. But I didn't try or attempt this myself.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2884170]I didn't even know this. Where is the staircase to the 2nd floor club? Can you buy them drinks and get DFK and lap dances like Malio?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.

Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.

Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.

The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.

The Girls: I found all the girls except one to be amazing in service. And even the one was not bad by objective standards. I had 2 threesomes, several one on ones. I must have fucked 8 girls all bareback. Juicy details below.

Day 1: Arrived hotel around 2 pm. Sugar spa was across the street and recommended by ISG bro. You select girl from Ipad, I asked for a slim girl with natural tits and mamasan recommended Echa. Cute girl in person. Go to room, she showers and bathes me thoroughly, does some massage, teasing, body to body and moves on to sex. I ask for bareback, she agrees, off to the races. Decent service but nothing compared to what was coming later. 650 K plus 100 K tip and she was happy. I broke my Jakarta Cherry. Later around 6 pm met up with the guys at Classic. Thats a good time to go, most of the girls are there but few customers. Went around the sofas and one mama san said "new girls" so I said OK, show me. She pulls up one girl there on her first day (yeah right I'm thinking but turns out she was actually telling the truth). Mama offers 2 for 500 and I'm like WTF, how bad can it be for 30 bucks? So I chose another skinny girl and take them to the room. Here they both say they are new and have never done a threesome. I'm like cool, I will show you how (evil grin). I tell them no condoms and offer an undefined tip. They quickly agree. That was my first amazing session. The brand new girl was 22 and the other was 19 and had been there a week. They were full on GFE, DFK, alternatively fucking one pussy and another pussy to a mouth and back and forth. This went on for a good 40 min before I finally unloaded in the skinny one. The new one looked down at her pussy and there was some blood (not period) so I think she was really not used to it. But she didn't complain a word. I tipped them each a generous 200 K and they were thrilled. Total cost 900 K (60 USD). Wow. I thought it couldn't get better but I was wrong. Wait until day 3! But wait, Day 1 is not over. All the boys then decide to move to Travel. A lot more girls, more party atmosphere. Spent most of the evening hanging with the guys but took one slim cutie who turned out to be the worst lay of the trip. She asked for tip right away in advance. I told her I will tip her after and expect BBFS. She agrees but tries to rush. I stop her and tell her that's not how it works got her to come around to doing it right. So in the end she delivered an acceptable session, I unload inside her and give her the promised 200 k (even though she maybe didn't quite deserve it). 3 pops is a good day for me at my age and I call it a night.

Day 2: After a nice sushi lunch with the gang, one of the guys and I decide to go to Classic Spa. This is in the basement of Classic Hotel. Typical spa set up like in Macau or Shanghai. Lockers, Jacuzzi, Sauna etc for the 120000 entrance fee. Theres a lounge with fishbowl of girls. Not the best selection at 3 pm (early) but I did see one beauty who turned out to be the highlight of the trip Took her back and she exemplified true GFE. Passionate kissing, long deep BBBJ, deep fingering that made her almost squirt. After some Satay at the lounge, went up the bar area again but couldn't get myself energized for another so went back to the room for a break. Later the guys all wanted to go to Kota Indah so we ended up there. Popped into a few bars, crazy scene. Loud, dark and crowded. Tons of girls and also tons of guys (all locals). Quality not quite as good as Classic but still not bad. The environment was too hectic for me to choose. I did buy a drink with one girl but close up she had tats which I didn't want. I politely told her no thanks and she took it sweetly and kissed my hand and left. Felt bad cause she was a nice girl but I was saving my precious fluid for a stunner. Which I found in the fishbowl at Starmoon. A gorgeous 19 yo, slim but with natural large tits. Unbelievable body and face. Had a drink with her and took her upstairs. A bit disappointed as she was not too enthusiastic but BBFSCIP with a hot 19 yo for 25 bucks is never a bad thing. Two shots on the second day and I'm done. I wish I could do 6 shots in 24 hours like I used to 20 years ago in Angeles, but alas, those days are gone.

Day 3: Decided to go back to Classic Spa to possibly repeat with the same girl. She was there as was another tight spinner I had my eye on. So took both of them for what turned out to be by far one of the best sexual experiences of my life. Paid a small 50 K upgrade to a VIP room which had a large round bed and a jacuzzi tub as well. Since the first girl already knew me and was happy to see me again and she spoke English, it worked like charm. She instructed the other girl in what I liked (no condom etc) and both were happy and giggling in the room, overall a very positive vibe. The sex as off the charts. Better than my first 3 some and with way hotter girls. The first threesome girls were like 7 while these were solid 9 in my book. And both were full on with passionate kissing, fingering them to orgasm, long deep BBBJ, alternate pussy fucking. Like a dream, two 20 year old hot girls doing whatever I wanted. First shot unloaded in the skinny one. Second in the other one. Total cost for 90 min 600 k each for the girl plus 200 k each tip. So about USD 100 all in. This ranks as one of my best experiences in over 20 years of mongering. Back in the day I used to get stuff like this all the time in Angeles but not with girls this hot.

Came out of the session and went in for a regular massage (also onsite) which felt great and then back to the jacuzzi for a dip before leaving. We spent probably 6 hours onsite and total bill was about $150 all inclusive. My favorite place of the trip.

Last thing left to check out was Malioboro so a few of us went there after 10 pm. I know the place gets bad press but I actually had fun. Lots of hot girls in transparent fishnet clothing. I bought one some $4 drinks and she was on my lap, French kissing me, fondling her boobs while she rubbed my dick, and I even stuck my finger in her pussy. Lap dance ++ experience was a lot of fun. You can fuck the dancers for 3. 8 M (over $200) so not worth it but for watching hot girls and playing with a few for drinks its great value. My total bill was 800 K (50 USD) for lap dances and a round of beers for the gang.

Final Comments: Why on earth did I not bother to go to Jakarta earlier? I've lived in Asia since 2017 and visited Thailand and Phils dozens of times. Jakarta is like Bangkok 20 years ago. Unjaded girls, no English, few foreigners and tourists so prices in line with local market. No fake boobs, few tattoos. I also chatted with a bunch of Tinder girls but since I was there for only 3 days didn't really get time to meet them. But that option also exists.

I think AC is now off my destination list forever, replaced by Jakarta. The only saving grace of AC was BBFS but I had 100% success rate with that in Jakarta. Just one girl refused in the bar and I sent her away. Every other girl quickly agreed with the promise of a small tip. Even in threesomes where they often won't do that in front of their coworkers, I didn't get any resistance. I know other posters have had different experiences and I don't know why but this was my experience. As Arnold said so eloquently " I will be baack".[/QUOTE]Still remember the name of the girl in classic spa?

[QUOTE=HelloYou;2882859]How to get Grab feel? I thought it was a joke? I never had the feel option on the grab app.[/QUOTE]You have to select the menu within the Grab Bike option- make sure you have downloaded the latest version of the app- and choose Grab Feel. Please make sure you tip the girl appropriately when you complete your journey, based on how many feels you have had.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2884741]You have to select the menu within the Grab Bike option- make sure you have downloaded the latest version of the app- and choose Grab Feel. Please make sure you tip the girl appropriately when you complete your journey, based on how many feels you have had.[/QUOTE]OS is a big fan of the Grab Feel service, so much so that it was beginning to attract the suspicions of lady OS who was wondering why he was taking an ojek all the time instead of riding his own motorcycle.

So OS arranged for some punks to steal the bike and burn it and now he wakes every morning with a flourish, ready to go to work with Grab Feel, his hands can barely hold his morning cornflakes in their spoon, they are so excited to be soon to start the day.

One word of advice is to try to choose a rider with a higher powered motorcycle. Waiting at the traffic lights with your riders chest jiggling up and down can attract the suspicions of the Sharia police and you can find yourself suddenly in the middle of a Hollywood style police chase through the streets of Jakarta. Fortunately most Sharia police only have crappy old secondhand bikes of low power (A result of the Sharia commander skimming the budget to fund his karaoke habit). And your driver can blow them off.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2884914]OS is a big fan of the Grab Feel service, so much so that it was beginning to attract the suspicions of lady OS who was wondering why he was taking an ojek all the time instead of riding his own motorcycle.

So OS arranged for some punks to steal the bike and burn it and now he wakes every morning with a flourish, ready to go to work with Grab Feel, his hands can barely hold his morning cornflakes in their spoon, they are so excited to be soon to start the day.

One word of advice is to try to choose a rider with a higher powered motorcycle. Waiting at the traffic lights with your riders chest jiggling up and down can attract the suspicions of the Sharia police and you can find yourself suddenly in the middle of a Hollywood style police chase through the streets of Jakarta. Fortunately most Sharia police only have crappy old secondhand bikes of low power (A result of the Sharia commander skimming the budget to fund his karaoke habit). And your driver can blow them off.[/QUOTE]As always, invaluable insight from OS into the important details. Any newcomers to Jakarta would be wise to take note.

Been here in Jakarta for past few days. I read everyone's info going back a couple of years and thanks for everyone's tips.

Staying at HI Gajah Mada as I got an awesome deal for $30 a night.

Mistake on first day, note to self never venture when tired, after flying over 320+ hours with 5+ hours layover and landed in a downpour was looking forward to get a release. So took once checked in hail a grab to Classic but allowed mama son took over, bad mistake, and got push for 2 young girls, 19 and 20 year old, for 500,000. Well, the experience was not very good but did get the job done. Will try again in a few days.

When to BATs and was great took 29 years old for 2,000,000 for the night. Brought a bottle and they will allow you to keep there for 2 weeks. I think this is the best way to drink as the ladies will eye your bottle try to make conversation. Will go back to finish my bottle and see if I can find younger but am OK with MILF as are better for sex.

Past few days I run into hotel massage ladies, all older, and they will all offer 3 M for FS (with one have not problem BBBJ and BBFS) this also included an hour massage. For me this is a better option than going to Classic as I don't have to leave the comfort of my hotel but the down side is the ladies are older.

I am doing the bar scene this weekend and see what's it's like.

There are lot of options here but I find it a bit more the Thailand and Vietnam, not current, rather a year ago.

Again thanks everyone's info, as without it will be impossilbe to know where to look.

[QUOTE=HappyPlayer;2885341]Been here in Jakarta for past few days. I read everyone's info going back a couple of years and thanks for everyone's tips.

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Past few days I run into hotel massage ladies, all older, and they will all offer 3 M for FS (with one have not problem BBBJ and BBFS) this also included an hour massage. For me this is a better option than going to Classic as I don't have to leave the comfort of my hotel but the down side is the ladies are older. <snip>
[/QUOTE]Hi, Thanks for sharing your experience.

3 Million Rupiah for Massage + FS from a MILF is too high. I suggest you offer 1.2 or 1.5 Million max. And make it sound like it is the FINAL offer.

I know a 40 year old MILF who will give you a 35 minute oil massage in your Room + FS.
I pay her 900,000 Rupiah Total and she is happy.

It is your money and you can pay whatever you want.
However, just want to alert you MILFs are highly negotiable. Make a counter-offer!!

~BKKguru

Hey Happy Player. Why did Classic not make you Happy? Being rushed? You prefer a more refined and high society lady who respects bottle service? Just curious. It is good to have your prospective since some have claimed Classic has too many Fan-boys. And thanks for your report!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2885469]Hey Happy Player. Why did Classic not make you Happy? Being rushed? You prefer a more refined and high society lady who respects bottle service? Just curious. It is good to have your prospective since some have claimed Classic has too many Fan-boys. And thanks for your report![/QUOTE]Most westerners don't know how to utilize places like Classic. They are set up in a different way than bars in Thailand or Philippines. If you know how to play the game you can get amazing experiences with young (18-23) year old girls for less than $30. But you need to get out of the idea that Jakarta is same as Bangkok or Manila and that the P4 P scene exists primarily for old white men. It doesn't. Thats why they are disappointed and go on to pay 3 M for way over the hill hookers.

Visited July 20 to August 14,2023.

Married a wonderful Indonesian school teacher on August 8, 2023 in Bekasi.

Returned to live here for 3 months from Dec 7 until March 5.

Took 1 month to get a computer setup and working VPN to access this site.

My wife is fine with me having an occasional fuck session as long as I let her know in advance.

Mid-December I stopped into Malio Hotel to visit Malioboro at 1:30 am. Malioboro closed, so I venture into Malio bar for a drink and look see.

OMG. I sat down and was swarmed by at least 15 girls around my table all clamoring for drinks. I'm not a rookie, but this was too much. Finally settled on 1 girl and sent the others away. Mamasan convinced me to by 5 drinks at 66 k each (330,000). I was rushed to have her finish her 5 drinks and my beer and ushered to private room. All of this felt off to me.

It was not really a private room, more like a big room with sofas on the wall.

In the room with me was the girl, mamasan & some guy.

Here they quote me 1. 9 juta for a BJ. More for sex.

I'm thinking 1. 9 juta. Fuck that. I'd rather have a freelancer for 1. 5 juta. I had a few dalliances in December after this incident.

So, I stand up and leave. Pretty pissed off at what seemed like deception and super high pressure (at least for me).

My bill at exit was 554,000 rupiah.

I will never go back there again.

CANNOT RECOMMEND!

SEA Traveler.

Just got access to the site again, had problems logging in earlier. I have been in Jakarta for over a week now and like it so much so extended my trip by another 5 days. This place just keeps giving more and is a true mongering heaven. I am staying at Grand Hyatt, got a great price and I guess all the staff know me very well by now. Hotel is very well located next to the mall and all good places are nearby. Its central location allows me to be anywhere within 15-20 minutes. Jakarta traffic is not as bad as it was made out to be. I would like to thank all the mongers here on the forum who have helped me on PM, I sent numerous messages and they were very helpful and courteous in their reply. I hope this report helps everyone especially the newbies.

Classic:

This place is superb, there are 3 places to visit. Basement classic spa. Lobby level floor is the bar / nightclub / lounge and finally 2 levels up the main classic terminal.

Spa: entry is 120 k and you get to change and are given a gown & towel. The place is very relaxing, the lady mamasans are very hot, young and beautiful. Sadly none are available. Girls usually sit in a fish bowl structure and price is a little bit more than usual about 600 k or so. About 40-50 girls but some of them are really hot. I have been here several times now and one can easily spend 4-5 hours relaxing. I have banged fresco (tattoo on both the elbows) 2 times now, she is beautiful. Beautiful, big ass, big natural boobs and service is pure bliss. Not a time watcher. Does DFK like a pro and allows CIM. Massage service here is also pretty good, given by a hot petite young girl, weighs about 43-45 kilos. Session is for 90 minutes and can be extended by another 30 minutes. She will make you go for a HJ at the end, I have never allowed her as I have so many options for BBBJ and fucking, don't want my fluid to get wasted. You can watch a movie on the big screen and enjoy other services like plunge pool, steam and sauna. The place shuts by 9 pm or so and all girls are moved to lobby level bar. I strongly advise mongers to take girls and opt for a big / better room, the bed is round and nice, they have a sauna inside with a Jacuzzi / tub. Enjoy the facilities, just a little bit more money.

Classic lobby level bar:

Enter 9. 30 pm or thereafter only. Most girls are the classic spa girls in different sexy outfits, some of them in see through fish nets. The atmosphere is sexy and everyone's drinking and smoking in the presence of a live band and singer. You can pick a lady buy her drinks and move to the rooms in the basement. Payment to mamasan upfront.

Classic terminal 2 levels up the lobby.

Take the escalators on the left of the entrance. Get a numbered band and step inside. For a first time visitor this place can be pretty overwhelming. As soon as you step in one mamasan will grab you and show her line up. There are about 10-12 lady mamasans and each has more than 15 girls seated on a sofa. No 2 mamasans will ever approach you first time, I must warn all first timers do not fall for them and lure you away, politely decline them saying either you don't like the girl or need 15 minutes to take a look around. They are very pushy, once you say No to original mamsan other mamasans will push you to see theirs. Again politely decline each one of them. Take a deep breath and soak in the atmosphere. As I said this place is very overwhelming and first timers will be shocked / surprised with over 250 girls on display. Most girls are in 7 range, very few in 5-6 range and many of them are in 8 range, some of the girls are shockingly beautiful young and with great bodies, each line up may have atleast 1 gem so be patient. Grab a drink and look at the quality on display, if you like a girl ask mamasan for her, sit with her and take her to room. Make sure you discuss services offered first with mamasan to avoid any unpleasant atmosphere in the room. I am a fan of DFK / BBBJ and service with a smile. Also make sure girl has enough protection at her disposal. Just in case you want to bang her again after a brief rest. I had some awesome girls here and I promised them good tip before we started, got true GFE paid 100 k-200 k. Sometimes I went with 2 girls, it was a To Do thing for me and I wanted to get it out of my system. This can be hit or a miss as many have already explained on the forum before. 1 girl costs 365 k and 2 together 500 k, ridiculous low pricing it seems. Yesterday, I had 5 girls in 4 sessions as I wanted to try out as many girls as possible. Finished in only 2 sessions. Good time to hit this place is 5 pm or so.

Loved the way mamasan would point laser at girls from a distance and they would line up within seconds. New thing for me, I was shocked initially but one gets used to this kind of a set up. Girls do not feel uncomfortable when mongers stand in front of them and stare at them with carnal pov. Some of them would just giggle away or take a short nap so its ok.

I would rate this place A and urge all mongers to make a visit to classic, its a Must.

Some of my observations about Jakarta:

1. Its a fantastic city for mongering. Beautiful girls, smoking hot bodies and open minded attitude will help you have memorable experiences.

2. Get yourself Grab taxi, its easy and comfortable better than Silverbird / Bluebird taxis. You know the prices before hand. Get grab bike to cut city traffic and prices.

3. I feel traffic in Jakarta is normal or not as bad as it was made out to be. Or probably I was lucky. Travelling distance to anywhere is in the region of 20 minutes but if your focus is only mongering then one should stay in North. It helps.

4. $100 bills get you better change rate as compared to 10's 20' 50's. $10 gets you about 150 k.

5. Came out of the airport like a breeze. No queue for immigration luggage was quick & one needs to upload customs declaration on the QR scanner, max 20 minutes for all.

6. Grab charges from airport about 180 k-220 k for south and 160-180 k for north.

7. Indonesian girls are very open minded and smiling in nature. Talk to them and open a conversation, they are happy to share their contact. You never know but one can land a civvie, its not difficult.

8. Pavements are not exactly walking friendly and aggressive hawking on the streets makes it more difficult.

9. No or hardly any LBs in the city, major sigh of relief. As compared to other cities scams are less but still better if you are careful. Very few will have plastic bodies & most girls are service oriented and not greedy as other countries. Try to build contacts and use them for dating.

10. Food is crazy good, lots of good sea food options you'll be spoilt. Food is cheap & alcohol is expensive.

11. Almost all bars and clubs have FL / WG / semi indies. Starting point they ask for 2. 5-3 mn, counter with a 800 k-1 mn offer and settle as per your convenience.

12. Online scene looks promising and girls tend to lie less as compared to other countries, asking price is 1-1. 2 mn short and 2-2. 5 mn long.

13. Travel, classic, kota indah, emporium, colosseum 1001 are all in North and nearby. Max driving distance 15-20 minutes. Grab taxi 30 k, king cross a little further away. Add another 10-15 minutes.

14. Always confirm with mamasan first wherever you are: not all girls will offer all services. Tell the girl beforehand you will tip her at the end: trust me 100 k-200 k goes a long way.

15. Almost all places will allow you to spend some time with the girl, talk to her first and feel her before you hit the room.

I had a trip planned to the PH for a while and happened to check out this forum a few days ago, after reading a few posts I had to change up my flights. I still get to hit up PH after and luckily was able to do so at not to much expense. Its actually nice for a change the Jakarta forum seems like a relatively positive place compared to all the other toxic forums I have navigated.

1) Anyone in town over those days, would be happy to buy a round or two, always more fun with a wingman (s).

2) I like to plan my vacations with a mix of perverted fun and adventure travel. So far it seems like there is not too much to do. I understand there might be some ok scuba diving that I can access from Jakarta. Is it worthwhile to do any daytrips see the country side? Any Recommendations?

3) Excited about the food, any markets or hawker centres that I must check out?

4) While places like Classics is definitely on my list to try out I prefer action on my own hotel. Of course I will try exploring getting good performers from Classics back to my room on days off or whatever, but are there any other avenues to explore to find this action. CJ's seems like it might be worthwile to check out, I don't mind the 30 yo's as I found that its the perfect balance of maturity, looks and sexuality.

Thats it for now, hit me up with any recommendations or if you will be in town during my dates, you can tell from my history I always give back to the community.

Cheers YM.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2875893]So I just got done with my first mongering trip to Jakarta. And all I can say is. WOW. I I hooked up with a few other board members who were amazing and showed me the ropes. Thanks guys, the trip wouldn't have been as great without your help.

Flight: Air Asia from Singapore 1 HR 45 min everything on time. Jakarta airport surprisingly efficient, no lines anywhere at all. VOA, Immigration and Customs all done in less than 20 min. Changed 100 USD just to get going, stepped outside and hopped into a Bluebird. Meter rate to Holiday Inn about 130 K.

Hotel: Holiday Inn Gajah Meda. I can't say enough good things about this hotel. 5 star luxury at 3 star price. $45/ night including a nice breakfast. Large, clean quiet rooms, great service. Perfect location 10 min from Classic / Travel / Kota Indah. About 25 K for a grab car to any of those hot spots.

The Venues: Classic and Travel have similar set ups, large bars, live band, hundreds of girls. The quality of the girls blew me away. Better than Thailand for me because no plastic and very few tats. All natural look. And I don't believe there was a single girl over 25 in any of the bars we went to. Hardly any foreigners, mostly local crowd. Downsides were very loud music and lots of smoke. Girls are sitting on couches in groups each managed by a mamasan. You can get the mamasan to have them all line up for inspection. Its okay to say no to all of them and move to another mamasan. You are the boss here. Price 375 for one, 500 for two. Unbeatable deal. Clean rooms. Kota Indah is even more local and very crowded late at night. Had more of a happening party vibe with thumping DJ music. But slightly lower girl quality however with the sheer number of girls you can always find a few to your satisfaction. Same set up with mamasans and rooms. One thing I didn't learn the first day is you can select a girl and sit and have a drink and chat and you are still free to reject her if you don't vibe. I did that in KI and Classic and was met with a polite thank you and they even kissed my hand as they left. Also checked out Malio club which is more an American style strip club. Lots of high mileage for a $4 lady drink. Girl quality higher than Classic / Travel but 3 X -10 X more expensive to fuck depending on girl category.

[/QUOTE]Excellent report. I'm going there shortly and switched my hotel to Holiday Inn based on your review.

YngMong,

Since you asked. I highly highly recommend Remboelan Indonesian Soul Food restaurant. It is a chain with many locations in malls. Absolutely fantastic! Basil Fried Rice. Flavorful food. Never had a bad meal here.

For Mongering. I admit I am a Classic Terminal FanBoy.

I paid a visit to the gang near the corner of Mangga Besar and Hayam Wuruk. Before the pandemic, there were three knocking shops here. Now there's one, Royal Mas by Kartika. I'm not such a great fan of Hotel Travel, I like the vibe here better. Not all the girls are as young as Travel, probably range from 20-35. Prices around the same, 400 k for the room, plus an optional tip to the girl. I usually tip 100 k, unless the service is seriously sub-standard, a bit more if it's exceptional, 200 k if they do anal (I haven't found one there up for that yet). First time I visited, one of the girls caught my eye from her sofa, smiled, looked friendly. Always a good sign, so I took her to a room. Amelia, Sundanese. Pretty good, not exceptional, but a nice girl. She didn't seem to want to bother with a condom, which is a bit unusual these days. I was the one who insisted. Next time I visited, the manager greeted me as though I was an old friend and a valued regular. I asked him for a recommendation, body type not that important, but good service. He recommended Leticia. Yeah, pretty good. She stands out in my memory for her incredibly strong pelvic muscles. When I stuck a finger into her, she almost snapped it off. I complimented her on it, she accepted it graciously and with some pride, she said she did kegel work outs. I'd be happy enough to repeat with either of those two, but I'll probably continue with an exploratory survey of some of the others before I settle on any regulars.

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2) I like to plan my vacations with a mix of perverted fun and adventure travel. So far it seems like there is not too much to do. I understand there might be some ok scuba diving that I can access from Jakarta. Is it worthwhile to do any daytrips see the country side? Any Recommendations?

4) While places like Classics is definitely on my list to try out I prefer action on my own hotel. Of course I will try exploring getting good performers from Classics back to my room on days off or whatever, but are there any other avenues to explore to find this action. CJ's seems like it might be worthwhile to check out, I don't mind the 30 yo's as I found that its the perfect balance of maturity, looks and sexuality.

[/QUOTE]The reason that Jakarta stays so good is probably the fact that it probably doesn't get a lot of vacationing tourists. Yep, lots of business people like myself hit the town, but I can't really think of anything exciting to do past a walk around the old town. You do have a theme park, and then there are trips out to the small offshore islands. Looked at doing that a while ago and passed on that idea. To me, Jakarta is a place to do business and have fun with some of the best looking girls in Asia, nothing else. A little bit longer and you could have charged down to Yogjakarta or Bali which are big tourist centres.

As far as hotels, two main bars / nightclubs. CJ's in the Mulia and BATS in Shangri-La. I preferred BATS when I was a regular visitor. Have been there twice post-COVID and thought it had lost a lot of it's buzz, certainly during the week. EP (Eastern Promise) out in Kemang is supposedly the place to go at the weekend, but can; t confirm that. Will take a local to say ye or no.

Travel.

I went there on one of the days in the afternoon around 5 pm I guess, lots of girls again just like classic. I say about 100 in the main hall followed by another 80-100 in the backside behind the bar. They are drinking, eating, resting & getting ready putting on their make up for the main show. Not too many lookers, on average girls are 6 and very few in 7 and hardly in the 8 slot. Picked one and asked her for DFK / BBBJ through a translator. Surprisingly she said No, called her mamasan and asked if she will convince her. Mamasan said its not allowed she won't do and its not possible. That very moment dropped her and left, never returned. I don't know if I was unlucky, what do other punters think about the place and their experience. Please share. My rating POOR.

Kota Indah complex.

I was warned about this place by several mongers, but a couple insisted I should not only visit but also try one of the girls in Starmoon. Sadly I did go and did not find any good looking girls. This complex is sleazy and dirty, classic has better hygiene and of course better talent. Walked around the complex M star, saryu aryu and it was the same story. Left and never returned. My rating POOR.

King Cross, Kelpa Gading.

Long drive, went there around 4. 30-5 pm. Not much of a line up 15-20 girls only. Some average and 1-2 decent. Set up looked good with a stage and big screen, I guess place gets busy late evenings, sadly I was too early for this place and advise others to come late by 8 or 9 pm. Waited some time to see if line up improves. Sadly, no. Left and never returned. My rating AVERAGE.

1001 colosseum.

I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.

Emporium.

Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2885720] EP (Eastern Promise) out in Kemang is supposedly the place to go at the weekend, but can; t confirm that. Will take a local to say ye or no.[/QUOTE]If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.

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[QUOTE=SuperLove;2885723]Travel.

I went there on one of the days in the afternoon around 5 pm I guess, lots of girls again just like classic. I say about 100 in the main hall followed by another 80-100 in the backside behind the bar. They are drinking, eating, resting & getting ready putting on their make up for the main show. Not too many lookers, on average girls are 6 and very few in 7 and hardly in the 8 slot. Picked one and asked her for DFK / BBBJ through a translator. Surprisingly she said No, called her mamasan and asked if she will convince her. Mamasan said its not allowed she won't do and its not possible. That very moment dropped her and left, never returned. I don't know if I was unlucky, what do other punters think about the place and their experience. Please share. My rating POOR..[/QUOTE]I agree with you about travel: not so good locking girls. Moreover disco have to loud music, and connected bar is not so big.

About Kota Indian, I agrre about room cleaning and size: not good. But I saw a lot of good girls. I was wrong in the one I take: she was sick, for cold it may be. But I just discovered in the room.

About Emporium, you wrote 200 k entrance, but then how much was the girl price?

I will back to Jakarta in July, and I wold be happy for some new information.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2885499]Just got access to the site again, had problems logging in earlier. I have been in Jakarta for over a week now and like it so much so extended my trip by another 5 days. This place just keeps giving more and is a true mongering heaven. I am staying at Grand Hyatt, got a great price and I guess all the staff know me very well by now. Hotel is very well located next to the mall and all good places are nearby. Its central location allows me to be anywhere within 15-20 minutes. Jakarta traffic is not as bad as it was made out to be. I would like to thank all the mongers here on the forum who have helped me on PM, I sent numerous messages and they were very helpful and courteous in their reply. I hope this report helps everyone especially the newbies..[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reviews.

Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).

I would ask if you can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2885931]Thanks for your rewiews.

Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).

I would ask if gyou can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.[/QUOTE]Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?

Girls in emporium are 1. 2 mn and 1. 4 mn. 2 categories, they have separate seating next to each other.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2885930]I agree with you about travel: not so good locking girls. Moreover disco have to loud music, and connected bar is not so big.

About Kota Indian, I agrre about room cleaning and size: not good. But I saw a lot of good girls. I was worong in the one I take: she was sick, for cold it may be. But I just discovered in the room.

About Emporium, you wrote 200 k entrance, but then how much was the girl price?

I will back to Jakarta in July, and I wold be happy for some new informations. .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2885939]Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?[/QUOTE]DC, unfortunately stacked girls in Indo tend to carry a few extra pounds. The skinny spinners tend to be peas on a ironing board. If you are happy to tolerate a few lbs or years then you won't be disappointed.

For slim and stacked, there are still two options:

1/. Mixed girls where mom and dad come from regions that specialise in each. Can be very hard to find but worth the effort. I'll personally vouch for the Bali / Java mix.

2/. What's your budget?? Are you ok with silly cones?? If you are happy spend the $$s and tolerate the games then the Instagirls in Bali fit well.

PM for more info.

Enjoy. G.

Yeah, you can. I feel girls are less jaded and more fresh as very few punters come on this floor. Entry is 120 k and not many know about this floor. Mostly aim for 'Terminal' straight away when they enter the building. The spa is less noisy and the setup is more like Bangkok, but if you need more & lots of choices then don't come here. They have only 30-40 chicks at max. You can easily find 2-3 for your liking.

[QUOTE=GiovanniVolo;2885931]Thanks for your rewiews.

Last time I was just in 2nd floor, and I meet 2 very nice girls (found in a lot of them).

I would ask if gyou can found girls in Sauna are same nice as the 2nd floor or not.[/QUOTE]

The cups, yes. In spa basement I saw one with big big boobs, she provided excellent service to me in room, unhurried and GFE. And in terminal I do remember I saw this girl, she was like beautiful, tall around 172 cms like. Nice round ass (not heavy nor big) great shape and she had big boobs, very nice face. I couldn't take her, as she was with another punter first time and the next time I was already done with 2 girls. And I decided for her next time but she wasnt there. I feel terminal has something for everyone, those seeking petite small frame, huge big girls or big chest seekers.

I was happy with 2 things honestly, no Silicons and no LB's.

[QUOTE=DCups;2885939]Yes, thanks, SL. Were there any particularly busty (slim and stacked) beauties there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2886064]Excellent intel. Thanks so much for your report! BTW, can you recommend a budget hotel in the area, or even an AirBnB? Cheers.[/QUOTE]AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).

I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).

Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2886021]The cups, yes. In spa basement I saw one with big big boobs, she provided excellent service to me in room, unhurried and GFE. And in terminal I do remember I saw this girl, she was like beautiful, tall around 172 cms like. Nice round ass (not heavy nor big) great shape and she had big boobs, very nice face. I couldn't take her, as she was with another punter first time and the next time I was already done with 2 girls. And I decided for her next time but she wasnt there. I feel terminal has something for everyone, those seeking petite small frame, huge big girls or big chest seekers.

I was happy with 2 things honestly, no Silicons and no LB's.[/QUOTE]Good to know! Thanks SL! Hope they have some nice ones when I am there in July. Haven't been there for many years.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886131]AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).

I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).

Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Awesome intel, thanks very much!

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886131]AirBnB. You have to look for yourself. Generally there won't be any directly around Lokasari, as AirBnB are located in high rise developments. Always confirm availability with the host before booking and avoid hosts without any reviews (the apartment might be new, but the host should have at least 10 reviews from other places).

I'm not 100% familiar with the hotel situation, but there are about 8-11 at and around Lokasari, all should be girl friendly. In 2022 I stayed at Prinsen Park Hotel and Olympic. Both are nothing to call home about, but Olympic is to a higher standard (and price). Olympic is advertised on all platforms like expedia, traveloka or booking. Prinsen Park only accepts advance reservations by Whatsapp message or phone call (numbers displayed at reception on the 4th floor).

Both hotels have a setup, where girls don't need to pass along reception. In Prinsen Park rooms are on the 5th floor, reception is at floor number 4. Always choose a room with courtyard view, due to excessive street noise. Olympic in turn has an official secondary entrance through the restaurant, completely avoiding reception. But again: places are girl friendly.[/QUOTE]Sorry to see your other post got deleted. That's the reason I'm looking to stay near Lokasari. Do the girls you mentioned use whatsapp or some other dating or messaging app?

Have to visit the honeys in the Muslim world. Will hang out with a bro in Jakarta.

The A320 is fully loaded, like 98 %. Many large carry on pieces had to be checked into cargo hold at the gate. Lots of women in hoodies head covers and long multilayer dresses. Had to yield my window seat to a hooded girl who got lost.

Flight attendants are tall, slim, dark, pretty, attractive, got my eternal hope going. She's going around clicking a counting device for passengers. Could get passionate with her anytime.

Forget about crime ridden Colombia. Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Vietnam have many nice, clean, sexy, very attractive girls in safe locations.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2885735]If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.[/QUOTE]Those girls are much more fun to chat with than the ones in North Jakarta.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2881031]Hmm, difficult to quantify the risk. Everythings good fun untill they catch you with your pants down. The women are the worst Fat sadists in jilbabs, but the force seems to attract the zealots. They're mean.

Before you come you should sew maybe five US $100 bills into your shirt and wear it everywhere, even if you smell. Don't take it off. If theres a knock on the door when you are with a girl. Put your shirt on first. Don't worry about your dangly old nuts hanging down. When they kick the door in you should be wearing that shirt.

Another trick which OS often does is to dress like them. You can go to Tanah Abang textile market and get yourself some religous robes. There's a whole floor of stalls. OS will dress up like them for a nights partying and instead of handcuffs, the Sharia police are high fiving you when the raid happens.

Another advantage of this kind of robe is it's very easy to relieve yourself without anybody noticing if the toilet isn't clean or simply not available..[/QUOTE]This is sage advice. You have obviously mastered mongering in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2886239]Sorry to see your other post got deleted. That's the reason I'm looking to stay near Lokasari. Do the girls you mentioned use whatsapp or some other dating or messaging app?[/QUOTE]Yes, it seems I was not following some guidelines (In any case, for those that are looking for less "hardened" girls than in Travel or Classic: at Lokasari square you can finde "semi-pros" - I. E. Girls from North Jakarta with a day job, that want to earn some extra cash. Not every girl will be around every day. They are not Pros. It's 7-10 minutes walking away from Travel Hotel. The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).

The girls show up on the street from late afternoon to late evening. You have to deal with a mamasan. Prices should be 400-450 for the girls and 200 for a room at an adjanced hotel. Pushy mamasan, but these prices will be enough. Sex is generally BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. Bring some lube and condoms (if you want to use one) - the girls don't have any. In the room you can grab the phone numbers of the girls and they will be happy to meet you at your hotel or AirBnB next time for 400 to maximum 500. If you're well behaved you can ask them for contacts of their friends and other girls at Lokasari. They may bring a female friend along for safety. You can either invite her for a threesome (pay extra) or let them wait in the lobby or the bathroom.

The girls exclusively use Whatsapp to stay in touch. Some use tiktok and other social media. But you won't find them on dating apps.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886441]Yes, it seems I was not following some guidelines (In any case, for those that are looking for less "hardened" girls than in Travel or Classic: at Lokasari square you can finde "semi-pros" - I. E. Girls from North Jakarta with a day job, that want to earn some extra cash. Not every girl will be around every day. They are not Pros. It's 7-10 minutes walking away from Travel Hotel. The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).

The girls show up on the street from late afternoon to late evening. You have to deal with a mamasan. Prices should be 400-450 for the girls and 200 for a room at an adjanced hotel. Pushy mamasan, but these prices will be enough. Sex is generally BBBJ, BBFS, CIP. Bring some lube and condoms (if you want to use one) - the girls don't have any. In the room you can grab the phone numbers of the girls and they will be happy to meet you at your hotel or AirBnB next time for 400 to maximum 500. If you're well behaved you can ask them for contacts of their friends and other girls at Lokasari. They may bring a female friend along for safety. You can either invite her for a threesome (pay extra) or let them wait in the lobby or the bathroom.

The girls exclusively use Whatsapp to stay in touch. Some use tiktok and other social media. But you won't find them on dating apps.[/QUOTE]Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.

Flew from Singapore to Jakarta on Air Asia, 2. 5-hour non stop, $60. Plane was 98% loaded with lots of Indonesians and women in head covers.

Grab cars from airport to Classic should cost about 180 K are or $13, but fake Grab will quote 280 K are. Jakarta is a huge slum, a lot poorer and dirtier than Bangkok. Traffic was very heavy midday. ISG is banned, had to subscribe to a VPN. Stores sell no alcohol due to Sharia laws.

Checked into hotel Classic in the North part of Jakarta, infamous girls club, near the National Monument, Jakarta cathedral and main Mosque, all shiny marble floor and red teak wood furniture, nice, clean, classy with Chinese NY decorations, easily 5-star in LOS Angeles, $31 by Agoda.

The connected shopping mall had no client. Went to the swanky steak restaurant but it had no steak, had to order seafood fried rice which was very good.

Met up with an ISG bro, checked out Travel club, it had 50 spinners lounging lazily on couches, not very sexy. The extreme loud music and thick smoke were unbearable. We retreated to a juice store to talk. He still had jet lag after 27 hours in flight, so I went back to Classic.

2 clubs occupy the mall next to Classic, 30 K T cover, redeemable with sodas but not alcohol. Each had about 50 girls, almost all pretty spinners. The 2nd floor is a strip club, very loud music and heavy smoke, girls lounging lifelessly on couches. Aggressive mamasans swarm over pushing shit.

1st floor is a karaoke club, hot girls sing and dance on stage, old men belching songs, lower noise and smoke, young girls walk about playing, most are hot spinners, pretty faces, light skin ect very cute. This club is way more laid back, no pushy mamasans, nobody spoke enough English to explain to me the protocold to book a deal. Chunky manager explained girls sit in 3 groups, 375,410 and 600 are, $25,28 and 38 an hour incl. The room on premises. I quickly grabbed the cutest spinner flirting around I had my eyes on all along.

A big baller suggested I buy her a drink to feel get up. She ordered a Korean Sujo 125 K, my 2 Heins 200 K. We sat in a dark spot drinking. She was smiling with her pretty face and dental braces, cute like a doll, with a light sexy fragrance, from Yogyakarta, Java. I quickly kissed her mouth, sucked her tongue, copped her nice boobs, creamy thighs and soft crotch to confirm the goods. She exuded sweet, sexy, youthful femininity. My dick was rising uncontrollably just sitting next to her. She tried to use G Translate but it did not do Indonesian, WTF?

She took me to cashier to pay 410 K in cash, then went downstairs to the basement through arched stone tunnels like dungeons in castle to a room, nice, clean new sheets and towels with a shower but no toilet.

She was a beautiful spinner, about 5 ft 90 lbs, all natural A cups, softest, smoothest lightskin. I was sucking on her softest lips and perky tits. She was stroking my dick then gave me a very strong BBBJ. She mounted me in CG, struggled to penetrate my dick into her tiny and tight pussy. She got going, thrusting, moaning, stooping down to DFK.

She wanted doggie, loved it, groaning as I rammed her hard. We switched to mish a while. She opened her legs for me to eat her tiny pussy. We switched back to doggie then finished in mish. I popped hard, exhausted, panting. She was pleasant and sexy throughout. Gave her 50 K tip, she was pouting, asked for 1 more but I declined.

She gave me her tel for OTC dates. Would love to pin her down again. My dick is growing just thinking about that nice tight body squirming under me. Hard to find girls hot like her in BKK, and they would cost $150-180ST.

Quality, convenience, prices, Jakarta is a heaven for mongers.

[URL]https://www.socialexpat.net/indonesian-ministry-of-tourism-stirs-controversy-with-new-40-entertainment-tax-surge-policy-in-bali/[/URL]
https://jakartaglobe.id/business/indonesias-hospitality-industry-demands-review-of-controversial-entertainment-tax-law
https://bnnbreaking.com/world/indonesia/indonesian-hotel-and-restaurant-association-challenges-entertainment-tax-hike/

It is intended for the goods and services tax for entertainment venues such as nightclubs, karaoke lounges, bars, and spas to a minimum of 40 percent and a maximum of 75 percent, a dramatic rise from the previous range of 10 to 35 percent.

It is not uncommon when the law states the tax bracket the local government will take opportunity to implement the maximum value in the bracket e. g. In this case 75%.

So it is a big jump from 35% to 75%. Who is paying this? They simply pass it to the consumers.

This might be because close to GE where this party wants to please people, clerics with a lot of followers who want to see the place like this to disappear.

Nice clean hotel, polished marble floor, red teak wood furniture, lots of nice restaurants within walking distance 5 - 7 minutes, ayce shabu and Korean BBQ ect.

Agoda will be lowest with $32 but Yosephine, daughter manager, will do $25 without and $29 with buffet breakfast.

She speaks English. Contact her at the hotel.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2886387]Those girls are much more fun to chat with than the ones in North Jakarta.[/QUOTE]You talk with the ones in North Jakarta?

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2886540]Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I went to Jakarta for 30 days before looking at this forum. I HATED it there. We had no luck in the malls. The only thing we knew was going to Classic. Since discovering this forum, I can't wait to go back for a 2nd round.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2886540]Thanks again, this is exactly what I'm looking for. I certainly don't mind if a young hottie wants to bring a friend along, who knows what may happen. I probably will stay at Olympic as you suggested. Plan to be in Jakarta one month, possibly two. Have you had any luck roaming around the malls there hunting for willing young ladies? I had a LOT of success with that method in the Philippines and in Batam years ago when I lived in Singapore.[/QUOTE]I would not suggest to stay at Olympic for one month. It's a convenient location for a week to collect numbers from girls after meeting them at Lokasari, but not that enjoyable. Just pay the mamasan 400-450 and take them to your room. After one week of taking girls directly from Lokasari, new introductions should ideally be made by the girls directly. Just ask them if they have friends that are interested. Quite a few introductions will be girls from North Jakarta that don't hangout at Lokasari (and of course not Travel), so you won't meet them anyway by staying close to that location.

Specifically for Olympic: it's a KTV place on the uppermost floor. So avoid the floor directly under the KTV (tell the staff when booking). Half the rooms do not feature windows. If you meet girls directly (as opposed to Mamasans in the area between KFC and Prinsen Park), you can instruct them to meet you at the back entrance (Exit of the restaurant). Mamasans are also happy to bring new arrivals to that entrance. Or just walk the 150 meters to KFC.

For the same price as Olympic you can rent a much more convenient AirBnB around North Jakarta. Just draw a one mile (1,4 km) circle around Lokasari and the girls will meet you at any location there. Reception or guards at apartment towers in North Jakarta aren't an issue. Just smile to them and say Hello, to create a colloquial mood.

Again, these are not Pros, so they are less prepared. Bring lubrication / lube. Have it at you, if you visit Lokasari and need to do a short term rental for each girl. That can be the difference between an enjoyable experience or the girl being very uncomfortable. If you need a condom: bring one. English language is a problem. Use Google Translate voice to speech for communication.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886593]
Quality, convenience, prices, Jakarta is a heaven for mongers.[/QUOTE]Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2886783]Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".[/QUOTE]I suspect the situation in Jakarta will go south quite soon. But not because of over-tourism.

Let's be honest: the city sucks. The building stock is a mixture of slum-like dwellings and completely uninspiring high rises. Practically no old architecture to speak off, and no shiny new temples as in Bangkok. Roaring streets with no sidewalks and hardly any green space. Any body of water is essentially an open sewer.

However, other factors are working against us:

1. resurgence of religion. Until the late 90's it used to be fairly secular and most women no wearing hijab. Today the country is driven by populist islamist politics; it's easy to win elections with that agenda and the country is becoming more and more religious-conservative. Most women cover their head already (that used to be a minority). Legislation is introduced to criminalize sex before marriage and requiring a fine for public kissing.

2. demographic change. Indonesia is at a spot where Thailand used to be 20-30 years ago. The share of young people is in a slow decline. Add to that some economic development (= food intake) and you have a recipe for the kind of overweight early 30's girls that are common in the pay4 play scene in Thailand these days.

Tuesday had a good breakfast buffet at Classic, walked a couple blocks South, visited the National Monument, National Gallery, National Museum was closed, National Mosque. This central area is leafy and green, very upscale.

Went to a Japanese AYCE wagyu buffet at the huge Neo Soho mall on the West side for dinner, only $12. People laugh when I ask what beers they have. This area is new, with lots of high rises and fancy shopping mall.

So full, came back to hotel, took cold shower and went to sleep, but within 5 minutes, the dick disagreed to this plan. So about midnight went down to Classic Club on first floor. Live band, singers, dancers were still going strong. About 50 girls sit lifelessly in the 375 Rup section, 50 more in other sections.

Mamasans brought line ups, dozen girls each time, to guys and shone lights on them for selection, but these guys were cheap, not picking girls to party. I skipped the drinking, walked among the girls, asked one to go up, she turned me down, laughing with her friends, stupid *****. I asked Nesya, young, slim, pretty with good taste in clothes, beautiful and appealing without revealing. She immediately got up and went with me.

Went to cashier, paid 600 K Rupiahs for an hour, club makes half, gives her half. Was low on cash so put it on a Visa card, walked down the dungeon to the room. She took her dress off, beautiful like a doll with her pretty face, nice smooth soft skin, embarrassed about her A cups but they were sexy to me as long as they are natural, not man made. She spoke enough English, was very gentle, always giggling like a little girl.

She took a good shower. We went on the bed cuddling. She loved to kiss, sucking on my lips and tongue. Her skin was glistening smooth and soft. I was sucking on her tits while toying her clit. She was guiding my hand, eyes fluttering, groaning in pleasure.

I asked her for a BBBJ but she was reluctant. I did not insist. She spread her legs. Her pussy was tiny, pink and pretty, smelling dainty with just a hint of perfume. I sucked on her tiny clit. She was convulsing, her soft thighs clenched tight around my head.

I hot on top, gently pushing my bare dick into her pussy but it was too tight, did not go in. Had to try to work it in gradually. Inside it was a warm, wet, snug fit. I had to pump this fragile girl very gently, lovingly. After we got a good rrythm of strokes into her wet and snug pussy, she went wild, groaning, thrashing, bucking her crotch forcefully, her wet pussy gripping my dick tightly as she slowly pulled out with lots of friction. She was having a lot more pleasure than I. I was even afraid my dick may be pulled clean off the base, leaving a stump hehe.

I popped big, had a much sexier, more passionate session with Nesya than with Melan last nights hot, sexy, unabashed GFE with a very beautiful young girl. We we lying bed cuddling, exhausted after the long session. Her skin was dry and smooth. She loved to kiss. We kept swapping tongues.

Finally suggested to her to go back to the club do I could buy her drinks, but she declined, did not want beers or sodas. She looked tired, perhaps a little guilty of the wild, hot sex she just had with me. She gave me picture in bed burying her face in the pillow.

She took a shower, washed up carefully then put on her clothes and make ups like a classy lady after a wild, passionate affairs with a lover. She gave me her tel, agreed to meet OTC. Her Whatsapp show her with her hubby, said she has a baby.

She had deep affection for this beautiful and gentle girl, offered her 100 K tip for which she was grateful. The poor girl only made $25 for her family. I wanted to spend more time with her in the club but she had to go into the dingy make up room in the dungeon. The chubby manager went back down to check on her before clearing me to go. The club was still going strong with singers, dancers and guys partying.

Big thanks to ISG bros who convinced me hot GFEs with beautiful young girls are avail in Jakarta. Sorry gov censure makes it difficult to upload pics.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2886632]You talk with the ones in North Jakarta?[/QUOTE]Of course. I spew the broken bahasa to whoever will listen. Other than the 3 squeeker mutes in Blok M around 20 years ago, I converse with any girl anywhere in town. Now that I think of it, I also talked to the mutes. Haha.

I have to talk to the girls to convince them to wear the sexy maid, nurse, and flight attendant, etc costumes I bring with me for a pre shag photo session. (yes, I even bring those to north Jakarta for my in-room experiences).

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2886783]Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".[/QUOTE]I said that 20 years ago. It's already spoiled.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886798]I suspect the situation in Jakarta will go south quite soon. But not because of over-tourism.

Let's be honest: the city sucks. The building stock is a mixture of slum-like dwellings and completely uninspiring high rises. Practically no old architecture to speak off, and no shiny new temples as in Bangkok. Roaring streets with no sidewalks and hardly any green space. Any body of water is essentially an open sewer.

However, other factors are working against us:

1. resurgence of religion. Until the late 90's it used to be fairly secular and most women no wearing hijab. Today the country is driven by populist islamist politics; it's easy to win elections with that agenda and the country is becoming more and more religious-conservative. Most women cover their head already (that used to be a minority). Legislation is introduced to criminalize sex before marriage and requiring a fine for public kissing.

2. demographic change. Indonesia is at a spot where Thailand used to be 20-30 years ago. The share of young people is in a slow decline. Add to that some economic development (= food intake) and you have a recipe for the kind of overweight early 30's girls that are common in the pay4 play scene in Thailand these days.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Tourists will never be a big part of the scene except at the few places like Malio which are geared to white men. The local driven scene can only support prices local men can pay. The danger is from Islamic fundamentalism or some stupid do gooder NGO.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2886848]Agreed. Tourists will never be a big part of the scene except at the few places like Malio which are geared to white men. The local driven scene can only support prices local men can pay. The danger is from Islamic fundamentalism or some stupid do gooder NGO.[/QUOTE]I had a great time at Kings Cross.

A lineup of attractive girls. Cost like $25 usd and no games. Never tried to cheat me or anything. Straight to business.

Might even be the best place I've ever mongered. Just a shame the rest of the city is boring and I hate spicy food.

This was summer 2022.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886667]I would not suggest to stay at Olympic for one month. It's a convenient location for a week to collect numbers from girls after meeting them at Lokasari, but not that enjoyable. Just pay the mamasan 400-450 and take them to your room. After one week of taking girls directly from Lokasari, new introductions should ideally be made by the girls directly. Just ask them if they have friends that are interested. Quite a few introductions will be girls from North Jakarta that don't hangout at Lokasari (and of course not Travel), so you won't meet them anyway by staying close to that location.

Specifically for Olympic: it's a KTV place on the uppermost floor. So avoid the floor directly under the KTV (tell the staff when booking). Half the rooms do not feature windows. If you meet girls directly (as opposed to Mamasans in the area between KFC and Prinsen Park), you can instruct them to meet you at the back entrance (Exit of the restaurant). Mamasans are also happy to bring new arrivals to that entrance. Or just walk the 150 meters to KFC.

For the same price as Olympic you can rent a much more convenient AirBnB around North Jakarta. Just draw a one mile (1,4 km) circle around Lokasari and the girls will meet you at any location there. Reception or guards at apartment towers in North Jakarta aren't an issue. Just smile to them and say Hello, to create a colloquial mood.

Again, these are not Pros, so they are less prepared. Bring lubrication / lube. Have it at you, if you visit Lokasari and need to do a short term rental for each girl. That can be the difference between an enjoyable experience or the girl being very uncomfortable. If you need a condom: bring one. English language is a problem. Use Google Translate voice to speech for communication.[/QUOTE]Roger that, airBnB is is then. Cheers!

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2886783]Killer report Captain Solo. Yeah Indo blows the balls off of Zona Norte and Fields Angeles City. In 10 years we will all be saying ". Man I remember when Jakarta had so many thin ladies available and there were no tourists. ".[/QUOTE]The monger who goes to Pattaya is different to the one who likes Classic Hotel. The girls are a minor part of the overall experience.

My average spend in Jakarta including everything like flights, hotels, etc seems to almost always come to around $150 per day, in Bangkok my last trip came to about $200 per day. Not a big difference. Of course cost per day will be less in Pattaya maybe similar to Jakarta but I haven't done those calculations.

Average of 5 girls per week in Jakarta all ST, 3 in Bangkok but this includes LT as well. I spend more on alcohol in Bangkok simply because of easy availability, overall it is a more enjoyable trip, more variety of experiences, everything is much easier in Bangkok something as simple as buying a SIM takes 3 minutes at the airport.

Of course I could add 11 or 12 sessions per week at Classic and come to a similar spend per day as Bangkok, but it gets very boring for me especially Classic, and breakbeat music is an acquired taste. 5 girls per week is about my limit, with 2 or 3 being optimum.

Tuesday had a good breakfast buffet at Classic, walked a couple blocks South, visited the National Monument, National Gallery, National Museum was closed, National Mosque. This central area is leafy and green, very upscale.

Went to a Japanese AYCE wagyu buffet at the huge Neo Soho mall on the West side for dinner, only $12. People laugh when I ask what beers they have. This area is new, with lots of high rises and fancy shopping mall.

So full, came back to hotel, took cold shower and went to sleep, but within 5 minutes, the dick disagreed to this plan. So about midnight went down to Classic Club on first floor. Live band, singers, dancers were still going strong. About 50 girls sit lifelessly in the 375 Rup section, 50 more in other sections.

Mamasans brought line ups, dozen girls each time, to guys and shone lights on them for selection, but these guys were cheap, not picking girls to party. I skipped the drinking, walked among the girls, asked one to go up, she turned me down, laughing with her friends, stupid *****. I asked Nesya, young, slim, pretty with good taste in clothes, beautiful and appealing without revealing. She immediately got up and went with me.

Went to cashier, paid 600 K Rupiahs for an hour, club makes half, gives her half. Was low on cash so put it on a Visa card, walked down the dungeon to the room. She took her dress off, beautiful like a doll with her pretty face, nice smooth soft skin, embarrassed about her A cups but they were sexy to me as long as they are natural, not man made. She spoke enough English, was very gentle, always giggling like a little girl.

She took a good shower. We went on the bed cuddling. She loved to kiss, sucking on my lips and tongue. Her skin was glistening smooth and soft. I was sucking on her tits while toying her clit. She was guiding my hand, eyes fluttering, groaning in pleasure.

I asked her for a BBBJ but she was reluctant. I did not insist. She spread her legs. Her pussy was tiny, pink and pretty, smelling dainty with just a hint of perfume. I sucked on her tiny clit. She was convulsing, her soft thighs clenched tight around my head.

I hot on top, gently pushing my bare dick into her pussy but it was too tight, did not go in. Had to try to work it in gradually. Inside it was a warm, wet, snug fit. I had to pump this fragile girl very gently, lovingly. After we got a good rrythm of strokes into her wet and snug pussy, she went wild, groaning, thrashing, bucking her crotch forcefully, her wet pussy gripping my dick tightly as she slowly pulled out with lots of friction. She was having a lot more pleasure than I. I was even afraid my dick may be pulled clean off the base, leaving a stump hehe.

I popped big, had a much sexier, more passionate session with Nesya than with Melan last nights hot, sexy, unabashed GFE with a very beautiful young girl. We we lying bed cuddling, exhausted after the long session. Her skin was dry and smooth. She loved to kiss. We kept swapping tongues.

Finally suggested to her to go back to the club do I could buy her drinks, but she declined, did not want beers or sodas. She looked tired, perhaps a little guilty of the wild, hot sex she just had with me. She gave me picture in bed burying her face in the pillow.

She took a shower, washed up carefully then put on her clothes and make ups like a classy lady after a wild, passionate affairs with a lover. She gave me her tel, agreed to meet OTC. Her Whatsapp show her with her hubby, said she has a baby.

She had deep affection for this beautiful and gentle girl, offered her 100 K tip for which she was grateful. The poor girl only made $25 for her family. I wanted to spend more time with her in the club but she had to go into the dingy make up room in the dungeon. The chubby manager went back down to check on her before clearing me to go. The club was still going strong with singers, dancers and guys partying.

Big thanks to ISG bros who convinced me hot GFEs with beautiful young girls are avail in Jakarta.

Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.

In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.

The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.

That area looks bad and risky.

99% of mongers like those who go to Pattaya or Bangkok are not even able to go to Isan to monger à la local, so if they go to Jakarta they will not even last 48 hours and take a return plane ticket to Pattaya or Bangkok.

Rainy Wed morning, took Grab car to Chinatown Westside for lunch, Grab took me on a very long ride in congested traffic to a very rough, run down neighborhood, pointed to a location across a huge sewage canal. Had to cross the street with thousands cars and bikes that did not slow down. Damn.

On the overpass over the canal found a little boy shivering under an umbrella, selling a bunch of donuts. This people is very poor. Stopped to give him a tip to cheer him up.

With all these bullshit glowing reviews in Maps, lunch was very bad and way too expensive. Wanted to throw up. Planned to get to the swanky Neo Soho plaza but Maps and Grab could not find my location despite many attempts. I was stuck out in the boondocks in the rain, serious fucked.

After trying and waiting I decided I needed to get closer to civilization do boarded an old beat up small blue van. He was heading East them North. I had no idea where he was going but was getting closer to city center. Found a major intersection, told him to stop, paid 4 K are. Was trying to book Grab ride when I noticed the intersection and street looked familiar. Turned out I was only 200 feet West of hotel Classic.

Jakarta is not worth any time dight seeing. The poverty, to dirty streets with run down dwellings depressed the shit out of me. To cheer up, had to checkout the street scene near Prinsen Park hotel and Travel club in that neighborhood.

Came back to hotel Classic, went to Classic Club 2 on 2nd floor to check on the talents. It's a dancing club with about 80 girls slouching on couches looking tired and depressed. Mamasans were pushing their girls aggressively with lineups which I had to turn down. A few were doable, but Travel was having 4 x as many girls.

Drank a big beer, 115 K or $10, decided on a pretty doll Dyah Mi in a black dress. Called the mamasan over; she said 365 K are or about $25. I made her instruct Dyah she had to do everything. She said don't worry. Went to cashier, paid with a CC. Dyah speaks enough English.

Classic Club 2 has its own rooms, nice, clean modern. We took a shower together. I was washing her pussy when she started groaning softly. I knew she was faking shit.

We dried up. I showed her my fat wallet, promising a big tip if she was nice to me. I was sucking on her tits, playing with her clit, sucking on her lips and tongue. She was groaning, hissing louder, very fake. She was beautiful lie a doll, soft, smooth skin, be cups we're starting to droop. She fid a serious BBBJ. I threw the condom away, penetrated her BB, too tight, took serious effort to get in. I pounded her pretty hard in various positions. She was saying " no, no " but she meant no stopping the hard thrusts hehe.

By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.

Did not have much feeling with her like with Nesya the night before. Nesya was so classy gentle and loving I want have OTC time with her.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886909]Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.

In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, (...)

That area looks bad and risky.[/QUOTE]Generally Jakarta and Indonesia are very safe by American standards. The homicide rate per 100.000 is one of the lowest in the world. Below major European countries such as Germany or the UK. Crime-wise Jakarta is a lot safer than NYC. It looks shady, because in developed nations the state of disrepair of North Jakarta is associated with crime ridden neighborhoods. But that's just your normal third world environment. And the reason it will never attract tourists. But nobody owns a gun and violent crime is about the only thing authorities take serious.

Have you tried walking from Prinsen Park north to the KFC at the underpass to the mall? If I recall correctly, from early evening most girls will be at that location.

Also: just stand your ground with mamasans. Just repeat that you're only taking one girl and 400-450 is your last offer (+ rent for the room). If you don't find something you like, you can always just walk over to Travel Hotel and try your luck there.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2886441] The area is between Prinsen Park Hotel and the local KFC (at an underpass 100 meters from Prinsen Park).
[/QUOTE]I've walked around Lokisari before and see where Prinsen Park Hotel is at (the corner). Is the KFC you're talking about the one in the middle of the Lokisari parking lot about 100 meters north of the parking entrance? The area in between is a lot of loose small kiosk like retail stores. Really small. Or is there another KFC I'm not aware of? Never noticed what this underpass is, but yes there is some sort of building structure that sits above the KFC.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886909]Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.

In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.

The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.

That area looks bad and risky.[/QUOTE]What is Hotel EF? Google search turned up nothing.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2886862]Roger that, airBnB is is then. Cheers![/QUOTE]Just make sure you get an apartment that doesn't have security cameras. I'd considered using AirBnB previously in Jakarta (I've used it in a lot of other countries) but was surprised to see security cameras mentioned in a number of listings. Looking further into that, and AirBnB's policies, providers are allowed to have cameras in public areas within the apartment. That was a thanks but no-thanks for me when I was on a hobby tour. Public areas includes the lounge, and I've certainly had the odd bit of fun on the sofa before.

Actually started putting me off using AirBnB altogether, who knows where else they have cameras.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886953]
By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.

[/QUOTE]I have experienced this in Colombia where the girl's pussy only starts smelling once she has an orgasm. Can Seniors chime in if this is a natural scent or if this is because of some health issue. I didn't catch anything from that provider so I am hoping its not infectious.

Natural odour, cum releases natural odour when its released.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2887083]I have experienced this in Colombia where the girl's pussy only starts smelling once she has an orgasm. Can Seniors chime in if this is a natural scent or if this is because of some health issue. I didn't catch anything from that provider so I am hoping its not infectious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886953]Rainy Wed morning, took Grab car to Chinatown Westside for lunch, Grab took me on a very long ride in congested traffic to a very rough, run down neighborhood, pointed to a location across a huge sewage canal. Had to cross the street with thousands cars and bikes that did not slow down. Damn.

On the overpass over the canal found a little boy shivering under an umbrella, selling a bunch of donuts. This people is very poor. Stopped to give him a tip to cheer him up.

With all these bullshit glowing reviews in Maps, lunch was very bad and way too expensive. Wanted to throw up. Planned to get to the swanky Neo Soho plaza but Maps and Grab could not find my location despite many attempts. I was stuck out in the boondocks in the rain, serious fucked.

After trying and waiting I decided I needed to get closer to civilization do boarded an old beat up small blue van. He was heading East them North. I had no idea where he was going but was getting closer to city center. Found a major intersection, told him to stop, paid 4 K are. Was trying to book Grab ride when I noticed the intersection and street looked familiar. Turned out I was only 200 feet West of hotel Classic.

Jakarta is not worth any time dight seeing. The poverty, to dirty streets with run down dwellings depressed the shit out of me. To cheer up, had to checkout the street scene near Prinsen Park hotel and Travel club in that neighborhood.

Came back to hotel Classic, went to Classic Club 2 on 2nd floor to check on the talents. It's a dancing club with about 80 girls slouching on couches looking tired and depressed. Mamasans were pushing their girls aggressively with lineups which I had to turn down. A few were doable, but Travel was having 4 x as many girls.

Drank a big beer, 115 K or $10, decided on a pretty doll Dyah Mi in a black dress. Called the mamasan over; she said 365 K are or about $25. I made her instruct Dyah she had to do everything. She said don't worry. Went to cashier, paid with a CC. Dyah speaks enough English.

Classic Club 2 has its own rooms, nice, clean modern. We took a shower together. I was washing her pussy when she started groaning softly. I knew she was faking shit.

We dried up. I showed her my fat wallet, promising a big tip if she was nice to me. I was sucking on her tits, playing with her clit, sucking on her lips and tongue. She was groaning, hissing louder, very fake. She was beautiful lie a doll, soft, smooth skin, be cups we're starting to droop. She fid a serious BBBJ. I threw the condom away, penetrated her BB, too tight, took serious effort to get in. I pounded her pretty hard in various positions. She was saying " no, no " but she meant no stopping the hard thrusts hehe.

By the time she was wailing loudly, her pussy started smelling fishy to like a tuna can. Damn. I popped pretty quick, went to the shower to pee out and wash it with soap. Hope my dick won't fall off. Tipped her 100 K.

Did not have much feeling with her like with Nesya the night before. Nesya was so classy gentle and loving I want have OTC time with her.[/QUOTE]Poor girl would be confused. You show her a big fat wallet and promise her a big tip then hammer away and then give her only 100K, WTF?

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2887035]I've walked around Lokisari before and see where Prinsen Park Hotel is at (the corner). Is the KFC you're talking about the one in the middle of the Lokisari parking lot about 100 meters north of the parking entrance? The area in between is a lot of loose small kiosk like retail stores. Really small. Or is there another KFC I'm not aware of? Never noticed what this underpass is, but yes there is some sort of building structure that sits above the KFC.[/QUOTE]Yes. There is only one KFC and it is on the left hand side when you walk into the compound.

I have been here multiple times. The quality of the girls is bad to mediocre.
And *some* of these girls are Pros.

I prefer to pay 200K more and visit other venues which offer better selection.

~BKKguru

I came back Thursday night. The place had about 50 girls slouching on couches in club, another 50 in the break room behind the stage.

Mamasans were aggressively pushing girls, 375 and 500 K in wide varieties of heights and weights, some tiny dolls, a few tall and big with huge boobs and butts, more like US taste.

Dj was playing techno music until 8 when a live band started karaoke. Guys were belching on stage.

Classic sells full girls beer bottles for 125 K, but Travel has guys bring trays of 50 whiskey shots, 35 K each, looks like whiskey but really just tea. Girls would plead for 3 or 6, knock them down quickly, give you a little squeeze and rub then quickly disappear, the worst bar girls' scam in the world. Just don't buy those fake shots.

Other guys were sharing beers with girls from pitchers, order food, sit with their girls a long time. That's a better deal.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2887054]What is Hotel EF? Google search turned up nothing.[/QUOTE]It's hotel FF, directly opposite the KFC. I think it is next to a bank.

Hi there just returned from Jakarta and my visit to blok m. I am not a massage person so not much to report on this.

I did venture out to my bar blok. M and although not as busy as before there are still some activities going on.

I haven't been there since 2019 but there were a few old faces and quite a few new ones around since I am.

Familiar with the bar I am comfortable with the surroundings only other bar around is next door but I didn't.

See much happening.

I fly around to new countries in Asia every few days, so I constantly exchange currencies. I always count and use [URL]XE.COM[/URL] to get estimate how much I would get.

At CGK I had about 1 million Rupiahs which I should get about 1. 5 mil VN the. The little girl in the booth did a calculation with her calculator and showed me 500 K. I showed her XE conversion but she said hers is airport rate.

I was about to lose 2/3 with her exchange, less than $100, but I hate to be cheated so I demand my money back.

Be careful with your $ Billions exchanges or any transaction in Indonesia.

Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.

I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.

Any bro want to try her let me know.

Sugar Spa: Paid a visit to sugar spa near Hotel Santika Premier. I am not sure why this place gets a mention on the forum. Its not nice, period. Have a feeling some monger has a vented interest and is promoted extensively. Not cheap much more than a usual massage place. Lady mamasan, she was hot and I enquired about her availability and each time she said no. Paraded about 5 girls and I said No, she paraded another 5-6 and they were same mediocre quality, since I was committed and had time to kill selected one. At best she is a 6. 5. Went upstairs, nothing great. Normal small room with no windows, massage was decent. I wasnt too much into her so just banged her forcefully, did not finish and wanted to save for classic. You pay at exit on lower floor, damage 600 k+. Not worth it.

My rating for this place see.

CJ's: nightclub in Hotel Mulio, South Jakarta.

Decent and nice, lots of FL's to choose from. There are single girl groups from Malaysia / Singapore and nearby countries so do not confuse them for WG's. Age bracket is good, several in mid 30's with few in 40's. Quality on display was good; a few of them were hot and not available. Decent music, drinks are expensive whiskey 150 k or more. Girls quote you anywhere between 2-3 juta but you counter with 1 mn and stand your ground. Good success, took 2 friends to my hotel room in Grand Hyatt with ease, charges 2 juta together. My rating for the place A.

BATS: nightclub in Shangri-la, South Jakarta.

Started slowly, good time to come 11 pm or later, peppy music. Again good line up of FL, some similar personalities from CJ's. Age bracket slightly on a higher side as confirmed by many punters before, some decent MILF's. If you like mature step here otherwise stick to CJ's for younger bodies. Picked one for 1 juta and had a great time in room. She was a school teacher and had a day off. Great time in room juices were flowing endlessly, finished twice at night and once in the morning, open minded and great attitude. Saw her at the club again, bought her a drink and this time she recommended her friend. Similar charges and decent service. Overall good.

My rating for this place A.

Hey Friends.

I have been in Jakarta twice, in 2019 and 2023. In my first visit stayed in Hotel Classic in Central Jakarta and Bfashion in West Jakarta. Explored Classic, Travel and visited Collosium Disco club. I got a lady from Indonesian Cupid and she was good. Just for a day. For me Dating sites in Jakarta in good so the girls will come in hotels to stay full night. I visited CJs in Mullia on my first visit with my lady and saw lots of tamed mature good looking ladies in the bar to come for full time. In Bfashion the Sauna and MP was good at that time and rooms were felt better. It was only a 4 night visit.

In my second visit in 2003 I stayed two nights in Holiday inn and Two nights in Mercure. This time also I got a girl from Indonesian Cupid but she was not at par with my expectation. We went to BATS, CJs and those bars and girls inside were awesome for me. Full grown ladies with good face and experienced. Next day I went with my girl to EP in South Jakarta to see the Mblock area. I was so exicited see the clean roads and great atmosphere in South Jakarta. My intention towards Jakarta changed to explore Soth Jakarta next time. On my way back from South Jakarta, even though heavy traffic saw few attractive Spas and Clubs in the main road itself.

I visited Malio club, Kelap Gading clubs after sending back the lady. Lots of reports in the forum so not much explanation from my side. I visited Dheaven in East also but they won't allow to see girls directly.

Planning a 4 day visit in February. Intention is to stay in South Jakarta for two nights and Central Jakarta for two nights. Wish to get helping tips in South Jakarta on freelancers club in that area. I prefer to take the lady to my room. Thinking of BATS, CJs and EP ladies. Not much active reports from South Jakarta these days. Please put some comments on this area too.

Regards Friends.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2887170]I came back Thursday night. The place had about 50 girls slouching on couches in club, another 50 in the break room behind the stage.

Mamasans were aggressively pushing girls, 375 and 500 K in wide varieties of heights and weights, some tiny dolls, a few tall and big with huge boobs and butts, more like US taste.

Dj was playing techno music until 8 when a live band started karaoke. Guys were belching on stage.

Classic sells full girls beer bottles for 125 K, but Travel has guys bring trays of 50 whiskey shots, 35 K each, looks like whiskey but really just tea. Girls would plead for 3 or 6, knock them down quickly, give you a little squeeze and rub then quickly disappear, the worst bar girls' scam in the world. Just don't buy those fake shots.

Other guys were sharing beers with girls from pitchers, order food, sit with their girls a long time. That's a better deal.[/QUOTE]If you want to pkay the bar girl drink game, Malio is way better. Girls are topless, they DFK and even let you finger them for the price of a couple of the fake shots for a good amount of time. Cute girls to and many speak English. I had a good time with that.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2887347]Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.

I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.

Any bro want to try her let me know.[/QUOTE]Do let me know Captain!

Much appreciated.

That's more reasonable.

Will try it next time.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886909]Based on ISG info I went to hotel Prinsen Park. It's near hotel Travel, very busy with lots of street food stalls.

In parking lot behind Prinsen Park, a woman accosted me, said 400 K. She took me into hotel EF right there, roused up 2 sleeping girls in the hot, filthy room. Both are wiry, skanky, with tattoos and skin lesions, looking very bad. I quickly declined. They followed me down out to the street.

The woman took me to the ice cream store with couple girls sitting on stools, playing. She took the hands of 2 and insisted I take them to hotel EF. They looked nice, clean, pretty but questionable in age. I was only checking the scene, not really wanted to do anything, so just got out.[/QUOTE]It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.

As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.

For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2887347]Nesya was new in Classic 1 by far the prettiest, gentlest girl.

I Whatsapp her to meet again but she said on the rag. Damn.

Any bro want to try her let me know.[/QUOTE]I will be in Jakarta next week. So captain, I will appreciate if you can share.

I haven't seen any mention of SA (seeking) girls here. Just wondering.

Hi NesyaHai Nesya sayang. Ini Kapten Solo.

Apakah kamu bekerja malam ini?

Saya di hotel Classic. Ingin bertemu denganmu malam.

Nesya: Saya libur kerja.

Nesya: Lagi menstruasi.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2887465]It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.

As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.

For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.[/QUOTE]Thanks again for the advice. Do you have any specific airBnBs (condos) that you've stayed in and would recommend? I'll be in Jakarta for a month, maybe two and need solid internet speed as I'll also be working remotely. Cheers for all your input on this area.

[QUOTE=ThePrince1127;2887228]It's hotel FF, directly opposite the KFC. I think it is next to a bank.[/QUOTE]Got it, thank you.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2887465]It's by far fewer girl than you get in Travel or Classic. But it's a different experience. I recommend to visit in early evening. If you see "girls of questionable age" I suggest to just ask them their age or inquire about ID.

As for the price you have to factor-in, that BBFS, CIM is standard around Lokasari. While it has to be negotiated (and paid for) with the girls in Travel or Classic. But essentially you are not losing out by visiting Lokasari: it's close by to Travel Hotel. So if you don't like the choice of the day you can just take stroll over to Travel Hotel.

For Airbnb: I never encountered cameras apart from the lobby at the entrance of the apartment tower. Certainly not in the apartment (there are apps to check, which devices are connected to the local network. A camera will show up, unless it's disconnected from the internet). Maybe if you rent an individual room in a shared apartment that may happen. But why would you do that anyway? Only book "entire apartments" - there is a filter option for that.[/QUOTE]Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?

Very surprising this happened with you considering all of them need to print a transaction receipt at the end, they can't offer bad rates as there are multiple kiosks and one can go to the other one and compare rates. Usually airport authorities will never allow this to happen, rather strange. 3-4 % fluctuation is given.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2887344]I fly around to new countries in Asia every few days, so I constantly exchange currencies. I always count and use [URL]XE.COM[/URL] to get estimate how much I would get.

At CGK I had about 1 million Rupiahs which I should get about 1. 5 mil VN the. The little girl in the booth did a calculation with her calculator and showed me 500 K. I showed her XE conversion but she said hers is airport rate.

I was about to lose 2/3 with her exchange, less than $100, but I hate to be cheated so I demand my money back.

Be careful with your $ Billions exchanges or any transaction in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2887282]Hi there just returned from Jakarta and my visit to blok m. I am not a massage person so not much to report on this.

I did venture out to my bar blok. M and although not as busy as before there are still some activities going on.

I haven't been there since 2019 but there were a few old faces and quite a few new ones around since I am.

Familiar with the bar I am comfortable with the surroundings only other bar around is next door but I didn't.


See much happening.[/QUOTE]In my upcoming trip in February, my plan is to explore the J Seltan. MBlock, EP, H club and looking for freelancers in that premises. If it won't workout will stick on local spas. Where you usually stay while in South?

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2887574]Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?[/QUOTE]Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2887674]Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away![/QUOTE]Whew, I was nervous that maybe having unprotected sex with a prostitute might be risky. But I can rest assured now thanks to your post!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2887674]Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away![/QUOTE]That's so funny. Love it LOL.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2887574]Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?[/QUOTE]Are you that naive? Dude wake up!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2887674]Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away![/QUOTE]Classic have a money back guarantee if you catch anything too. Not many customers are aware of this.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2885723]

1001 colosseum.

I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.

Emporium.

Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.[/QUOTE]I will be in Jakarta in March. How much were the girls at Emporium?

They have 2 lineups on the sofa. 1. 2 juta and 1. 4 juta. All girls are 8, some 9, rarely you'll see a 7. Overall experience is good and enjoyable. Do report.

[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2887877]I will be in Jakarta in March. How much were the girls at Emporium?[/QUOTE]

Dude, I flipped when you wrote this, are you serious! I am waiting for a reply and want to know mamasan's reaction when you ask her this.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2887574]Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2881903]Yes. The Grab FEEL option was hidden until OS lifted the curtain.
Recommended - but advance booking is required. Tips are optional.

~BKKguru[/QUOTE]Is this option not available for iOS. I tried looking but didn't find.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2887784]That's so funny. Love it LOL.[/QUOTE]If some should still be confused. And I hope nobody is:

Yes, you can catch an STD if you bare-back a girl. Your Tinder date and in particular pay4 play girls. Particularly in poor countries you should assume that girl don't get tested for STD and will only seek treatment with antibiotics if they show overt symptoms of an infection. Particularly syphilis, gonorrhea and chlamydia can be with little symptoms in the first years. Even more so in women. However: the only real concern for men is HIV. And as long as you're a man doing a girl, the risk of transmission is a lot lower than for chlamydia or gonorrhea.

However, for peace of mind, I'm taking some precautions:

- I'm taking PreP against HIV during my travel, prescribed by my doc at home; in me it does not have any notable side-effect; it's probably overkill, but my health care provider is covering 95% of the price. So I don't mind.

- I'm vaccinated with Gardasil9 against HPV.

- I'm tested for all kinds of STD 2-3 times a year (again, fully covered).

- after a long stay, I take a round of locally sourced antibiotics that will clear any unnoticed chlamydia / gonorrhea.

As for asking the mamasan: don't. Not in Travel Hotel. Not at Lokasari. The girl needs to save face. If a girl really is hesitant at Lokasari (which I encountered exactly once), you can promise that you will finish on her stomach. But most girls are fine with CIP. In Travel / Classic I have a 70% success rate of negotiating BBFS.

AirBnB: I don't have any particular recommendation. Just read the reviews of previous guests. I would stay away from ELPIS apartments (to the east of Lokasari) though; you'll find 6-8 offers there. But even on the 15th floor there was a bug infestation and the train line directly next to the tower causes quite some noise.

I can tell you right off the bat, it's a big no if you ask that to Mami. However, does that happen, yes it does and YMMV with the girls with extra tips.

I'm friends with the manager who runs terminal and he usually sits with me on the table whenever I'm visiting. Saw a frustrated guy last time not finding single girl despite offering twice the rate and I inquired why, he replied, he is been asking to do BBFS which they don't allow just for the sake of girls safety and as well clients.

One might raise the question and to each on their own.

Do I do bareback sometimes, yes I do with my non-pros in Jakarta, Manila, KL whom I'm friends with for years.

Would I ever do that with a girl from Classic, Travel or even colosseum girls. Most probably not.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2887574]Can we ask the Mamasan straight up if the girl will do BBFS?

I presume once the girl agrees to BBFS, I can creampie the girl.

Are these girls screened for STDs and are they on contraception?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2887986]

AirBnB: I don't have any particular recommendation. Just read the reviews of previous guests. I would stay away from ELPIS apartments (to the east of Lokasari) though; you'll find 6-8 offers there. But even on the 15th floor there was a bug infestation and the train line directly next to the tower causes quite some noise.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning on ELPIS.

Will be in Jakarta in a week for two weeks. Hotel santika and hotel holiday Inn. Got both of these recommendations from reading here. Started Prep and bringing some antibiotics. Has anyone ever brought gold to sell at a local gold store? Sent some emails but waiting for reply on that one.

This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2888019]I can tell you right off the bat, it's a big no if you ask that to Mami. However, does that happen, yes it does and YMMV with the girls with extra tips.

I'm friends with the manager who runs terminal and he usually sits with me on the table whenever I'm visiting. Saw a frustrated guy last time not finding single girl despite offering twice the rate and I inquired why, he replied, he is been asking to do BBFS which they don't allow just for the sake of girls safety and as well clients.

One might raise the question and to each on their own.

Do I do bareback sometimes, yes I do with my non-pros in Jakarta, Manila, KL whom I'm friends with for years.

Would I ever do that with a girl from Classic, Travel or even colosseum girls. Most probably not.[/QUOTE]

To yield better results, I advise punters. When you select a girl, sit with her on a table order a drink and feel her up. See her comfort factor, crack some jokes get her at ease and ask for your special service in room and do remind her about the extra tip. If she agrees head for the room otherwise drop her and go for the next in the lineup this time from another mamasan.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2888081]This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2888081]This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.
<snip>
The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. I thought this was understood.
Dont get Blacklisted by Classic Management. It has happened in the past.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2887986]

- after a long stay, I take a round of locally sourced antibiotics that will clear any unnoticed chlamydia / gonorrhea.

[/QUOTE]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?

[QUOTE=YngMong;2888225]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?[/QUOTE]There are 2 options:

Option 1:

You come up with a convincing story, that you may have caught something from your lovely wife back in America / Europe. You emphasize that you have been monogamous your entire life and that it definitely isn't something you picked up at Travel or Classic (make sure to mention them by name) as you wouldn't know about such a place let alone step inside.

Option 2:

You realize that it's not America or Europe, and nobody gives a f*ck about prescriptions. You go to your nearest pharmacy and they give you anything you want, no questions asked (except narcotics and similar stuff). L.

There are different versions what to take. The simplest would be a 3-day z-pak regimen.

[QUOTE=YngMong;2888225]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?[/QUOTE]Keep in mind that for treating GC, the recommended treatment is Intramusclar ceftriaxone, oral cefixime is not reliable anymore. For chlamydia its doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for 10 days. You could get doxy prep, doxycycline 200 MG / day each day has been shown to reduce (but not eliminate) the risk of GC, Chlaymdia and syphillis.

GG.

[QUOTE=Marky1;2887815]Classic have a money back guarantee if you catch anything too. Not many customers are aware of this.[/QUOTE]That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?

[QUOTE=Buksida;2888272]That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?[/QUOTE]Impossible to collect. What a ludicrous notion!

[QUOTE=YngMong;2888225]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?[/QUOTE]WHY would you or anybody else care? Just go to a doctor and tell them what you've got. They'll prescribe something for and you're done. WHO CARES?

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2888264]Keep in mind that for treating GC, the recommended treatment is Intramusclar ceftriaxone, oral cefixime is not reliable anymore. For chlamydia its doxycycline 100 MG twice a day for 10 days. You could get doxy prep, doxycycline 200 MG / day each day has been shown to reduce (but not eliminate) the risk of GC, Chlaymdia and syphillis.

GG.[/QUOTE]Ever get a really bad sunburn from doxy being outside in any kind of sunlight awhile taking that medication? I've seen some nasty pictures online.

Sure!. After I got my STD, spent money on fixing it, I wll fly back again to collect the 30 dollars!. Sounds like a great deal.

[QUOTE=Buksida;2888272]That might be difficult to collect! Is there a written insurance policy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YngMong;2888225]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?[/QUOTE]Haha. Not only should you not care, but they won't either. Doctors treat the clap: it's in the job desc. Don't worry about it.

If you get infection with STDs and you go to the doctor or hospital to treat it, could you claim it back from travel insurance??

I am aware it will depend on the TCs but in general is it common for the treatment like this to get covered by the travel insurance??

I've closed my first day in Indonesia and thanks to Captain Solo it ended up with great date with Nesiya. Thank you Captain Solo.

Arranged the meeting through what's up. She was surprised and very cautious as she didn't know me. It took about half an hour of messaging when even I've started to worry if I've reached out the right girl Fortunately it started to be concrete before I gave up. Later on, when we met I've realized that she was using google translator plus she has very little experience with meeting guys outside „workplace at.

When you arrange the meeting you need to be patient. I don't know if this is Indonesian approach to time or this is specifically Nesiya's attitude. We've agreed to meet in the evening at my hotel. I've suggested 8 pm and got response „yeah babe" which I've read as confirmation. Around 8 pm she texted me if I'm still interested. I've confirmed and asked if she is on her way. She responded that she will come at 10 pm. I've started to doubt if this is not fake. At 10 I got a message that she is ready and asked me to come out of hotel to pick her up. I did so and after 10 minutes I've reached her out to learn that she is just leaving home and it will take her some time to get to my place. I was really willing to evacuate but I've asked her to send me her picture. When I saw it I decided to be more resilient And it was worth it. She arrived after 11:30 pm. So in total more than 3 hours later than I initially thought.

When she arrived she was looking even better then on picture.

Very young slim body. Beautiful eyes, natural dark hair, wearing black mini skirt and whit tight white t-shirt. Lolita type.

In the room we have agreed that the meeting will last 2 hours.

She took a shower. Came back a little shy packed tightly in the towel. We've started from kissing. She is very open for full, deep, passionate kisses. As pointed out by Captain Solo she loves to suck your lips. Great experience. I've unpacked her from the towel. She started to apologize about small tits but I've asked her to shut up and said that I love small tits because they react very nicely when you play with them. Which is true in her case.

I've started to rub her pussy gently. She is very tight and it took me some time even to start fingering her. After some time of working on her she became wet, wetter etc. She started to be turned on and she was was preventing me from continuing. It looked like she got shy about reactions of her body. I've tricked her and continued until she reached satisfaction.

I've asked if she makes blowjob. In Captains Solo review I saw that she does not make it. I was positively surprised that she agreed. We went for unprotected oral. She was working very nicely on my dick. She was choking but resilient. It was not deep and the choking was rather related with her overall reaction to blowjob. Looks like she is working on getting used to it. Surprisingly quality of BJ was good and she was not stopping. It was me asking at some point to stop and start sex.

I've put a condom on my dick and asked her to sit on me. She is very tight so I wanted her to be in control in the beginning. It was difficult in the beginning and we started with shallow penetration. After a minute or more she has managed to take the whole dick and she started to increase pace. With time her excite t was increasing and she was leaning back while riding my dick. Beautiful view. After few minutes she lied on me slowed down we started to kiss and making very gentle slow sex. Later on I've started to penetrate softly her Annie with my finger and it was turning her even more (I think she got her orgasm second time with this soft „double penetration".

After few minutes we've changed position to missionary. We've continued for couple of minutes. Watching her body, beautiful face and tight pussy was extremely satisfying. I've finished in that position. We were kissing for couple more minutes before I've pulled dick out. She tooked condom out and cleaned my dick with tissue. She took a shower and came back for cuddling. I didn't propose second time even though I knew I would finish easily with her tightness and beautiful freshness. I simply didn't want to exploit the situation. We were chatting with google translator and cuddling, touching and kissing.

I've paid her 1 mln plus 100 k for taxi. We kissed deeply before leaving the room. I've escorted her out of hotel to the taxi. Before getting to taxi she hugged and kissed my hand. I was surprised and felt very uncomfortable with that. I read it as gratitude but it was my first contact with Indonesia so I don't know.

I will definitely date her again in the future. I got very good GFE experience with kisses, smiling, subtle touch and passion in sex. I loved slim body, strong, fit and quite muscled. Very resilient in action, not getting tired quickly. Very tender and great in touch skin. Small tits but reacting nicely. Beautifull hair, smile and great kissing experience.

I really recommend her. Treat her gently guys. She is amateur and quite naive which is typical in her age so it is our responsibility to keep borderlines. All the best.

[QUOTE=Bwenz;2888078]Will be in Jakarta in a week for two weeks. Hotel santika and hotel holiday Inn. Got both of these recommendations from reading here. Started Prep and bringing some antibiotics. Has anyone ever brought gold to sell at a local gold store? Sent some emails but waiting for reply on that one.[/QUOTE]The quality of a lot of the gold in Indonesia is very high, you would need to pick your store. Makassar is the city for gold, it has a whole street of very high grade gold jewellery stores. Jalan Sumber Opu.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2888424]If you get infection with STDs and you go to the doctor or hospital to treat it, could you claim it back from travel insurance??

I am aware it will depend on the TCs but in general is it common for the treatment like this to get covered by the travel insurance??[/QUOTE]So Hotel Travel also has an STD guarantee with their ladies? That is good to know both Classic Hotel and Hotel Travel have either insurance or guarantees of no STD's.

[QUOTE=Adindas;2888424]If you get infection with STDs and you go to the doctor or hospital to treat it, could you claim it back from travel insurance??

I am aware it will depend on the TCs but in general is it common for the treatment like this to get covered by the travel insurance??[/QUOTE]Hello.

You would have to read travel insurance contract.

But usually there is no exclusion from STDs. It is a medical problem like other ones. Moreover usually is still cheaper to pay that a big incident.

In this case of little payiment some insurance pay directly the hospital, and other will refound you.

Only exception: if you get the STD before you travel. So DON'T tell this stupid shit to the doctor (I read in other comment).

Just tell you got wirth a girl here that you meet, and I never think doctor never inquire more. Becuase after insurance ask all the paper, and it would be write if you get it with your wife (before the trip.

For the rest, I suggest to DO NOT do automedication. If you do not solve it quickly you can have problems forever. Just go to a STD doctor, and don't worry if he chose this work he now what men do sometimes.

I wish you to recover soon.

[QUOTE=GentileBear;2888473]So Hotel Travel also has an STD guarantee with their ladies? That is good to know both Classic Hotel and Hotel Travel have either insurance or guarantees of no STD's.[/QUOTE]You're joking, right? Surely you can't be that naive. No club, mamasan, pimp or whatever is going to guarantee you not to catch an STD. And they certainly won't be giving you your money back if you do.

My friend I met on Tinder is available as a backup in the worst case situation regarding STD's. And stop calling me Shirley.

[QUOTE=ImVirat;2887944]Is this option not available for iOS. I tried looking but didn't find.[/QUOTE]Grab feel is locked within the app, to access it you must request to the app administrator and upload a picture of yourself to confirm you are over 18 along with a letter from your partner stating that they have no objection to you availing yourself of the feel as you travel service. Don't ask me why. In Indonesia the boss is always right and they have some funny ideas sometimes. Probably something to do with the new morality laws. OS would just suggest to get your sister, mother or granny to sign it like he did. They will never know.

Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=Marky1;2887815]Classic have a money back guarantee if you catch anything too. Not many customers are aware of this.[/QUOTE]Excellent! Does OS just go in and flop his big pus dripping thing on the cashiers counter to make a claim? It’s really painful to pee right now but need to have the evidence to get my 350 back

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2888552]Excellent! Does OS just go in and flop his big pus dripping thing on the cashiers counter to make a claim? Its really painful to pee right now but need to have the evidence to get my 350 back[/QUOTE]You just need to ask the woman the entrance on level 2 who puts the tag on your wrist. She keeps all the forms to fill out in a drawer at the desk. The forms are in several languages including Hindi.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2887674]Yes all the girls are screened weekly for STD at the top Jakarta hospital by world renowned STD specialist. You have zero chance of catching anything. So Creampie away![/QUOTE]Whilst the comment above is made with tongue firmly in check, the women in Kota Indah are routinely tested for STD's. The tests are taken on-site and are either monthly or bi-monthly from memory. I've been told this by innumerable women from Sari Ayu, LA and the other bars there. It makes economic sense for the owners. After all, a plague of STD's is bad for business.

Now, given the women in KI don't get to tap out until they've tallied 6 clients for the night, the risk is certainly not zero.

I don't frequent Travel and Classic often so haven't asked. However, I'd wager a bet they operate a similar system.

Nesya is a very gentle and classy girl with pretty face and incredibly beautiful body with perky natural boobs. She was embarrassed about her small boobs but natural is the way I like them.

Glad you had a good, loving session with her. Her rate in Classic is 500 K per half hour so you got a very good deal with 1 M for 2 hours.

You are right. We should be very nice and gentle with these nice girls so we can get good sessions with them.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2888552]Excellent! Does OS just go in and flop his big pus dripping thing on the cashiers counter to make a claim? Its really painful to pee right now but need to have the evidence to get my 350 back[/QUOTE]Yep, that's exactly what you need to do. Let us know how it works out!

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2888551]Grab feel is locked within the app, to access it you must request to the app administrator and upload a picture of yourself to confirm you are over 18 along with a letter from your partner stating that they have no objection to you availing yourself of the feel as you travel service. Don't ask me why. In Indonesia the boss is always right and they have some funny ideas sometimes. Probably something to do with the new morality laws. OS would just suggest to get your sister, mother or granny to sign it like he did. They will never know.

Hope that helps![/QUOTE]Oh boy, this made my day after the week I've had.

[QUOTE=YngMong;2888225]Any advice how you go about getting thoose antibiotics this without coming across to the Dr as a perverted foreigner there to fuck their women or do you not care? What particular antibiotics are recommended?[/QUOTE]Do you think they really worry. You're just another foreigner paying for his services, that have probably been inflated for the pleasure.

Would certainly rather do it in Indonesia or other Asian country than here in Australia. In Oz big G infections get reported to the Center for Disease control by the treating clinic, you get a telephone call from them a couple of days afterwards with regards to contact tracing, and 6 weeks later you have to go for a re-test to make sure you are clear. Makes the short flight to Bali for a check-up from the local GP a lot more enticing, and certainly a lot less embarrassing".

Nothing like a guy in his 60's having to sit in an STD clinic with a bunch of people a lot younger. Pick the one you like.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888720]Nesya is a very gentle and classy girl with pretty face and incredibly beautiful body with perky natural boobs. She was embarrassed about her small boobs but natural is the way I like them.

Glad you had a good, loving session with her. Her rate in Classic is 500 K per half hour so you got a very good deal with 1 M for 2 hours.

You are right. We should be very nice and gentle with these nice girls so we can get good sessions with them.[/QUOTE]Wait classic has multiple tiers? I thought it was 365?

Classic 1 has 3 tiers sitting separately, 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. The sign at cashier says " Do not haggle rates. " I paid 600 K to go with Nesya.

Classic 2's rates are up to mamasans, seem more flexible and negotiable. They mentioned rates between 350 K and 500 K.

Work mamasans and make them reduce rates.

[QUOTE=KopiHitam;2888600]Whilst the comment above is made with tongue firmly in check, the women in Kota Indah are routinely tested for STD's. The tests are taken on-site and are either monthly or bi-monthly from memory. I've been told this by innumerable women from Sari Ayu, LA and the other bars there. It makes economic sense for the owners. After all, a plague of STD's is bad for business.

Now, given the women in KI don't get to tap out until they've tallied 6 clients for the night, the risk is certainly not zero.

I don't frequent Travel and Classic often so haven't asked. However, I'd wager a bet they operate a similar system.[/QUOTE]The question about STD testing was regarding street girls at Loksari, not the controlled bordellos. I don't know if its true or not but maybe there is testing at Classic and KI. I have a hard time believing that each girl has to score 6 a night. I just didn't see the male / female ratio that would make that even possible. Maybe on the weekends but not every night. And a lot of local guys just go to KI to drink and hang out without taking a single girl. I think many girls don't score even a single punter every night.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888821]Classic 1 has 3 tiers sitting separately, 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. The sign at cashier says " Do not haggle rates. " I paid 600 K to go with Nesya.

Classic 2's rates are up to mamasans, seem more flexible and negotiable. They mentioned rates between 350 K and 500 K.

Work mamasans and make them reduce rates.[/QUOTE]Since when were the rates negotiable?

The 500 k rate in classic 2 is for 2 girls ie 3 some.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2888829]The question about STD testing was regarding street girls at Loksari, not the controlled bordellos. I don't know if its true or not but maybe there is testing at Classic and KI. I have a hard time believing that each girl has to score 6 a night. I just didn't see the male / female ratio that would make that even possible. Maybe on the weekends but not every night. And a lot of local guys just go to KI to drink and hang out without taking a single girl. I think many girls don't score even a single punter every night.[/QUOTE]As mentioned, 6 a night is the number at which they can 'tap out'. As in they can finish work early and go to bed, or whatever they so choose. Otherwise they work until the bar closes. The fact that 6 is more an aspirational target speaks to the business mindset of the mamasan / bar owner. Both of which aren't known for their glowing acts of altruism.

This was specifically for Sari Ayu.

Hi guys.

Which are the hotels which have the clubs where you can pick up FL in Jakarta?

Thanks in Advance.

Osaka.

[QUOTE=Osaka;2888973]Hi guys.

Which are the hotels which have the clubs where you can pick up FL in Jakarta?

Thanks in Advance.

Osaka.[/QUOTE]Mulia / CJ's & Shangri-la / BATS, plenty off info on here about them.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888821]Classic 1 has 3 tiers sitting separately, 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. The sign at cashier says " Do not haggle rates. " I paid 600 K to go with Nesya.

Classic 2's rates are up to mamasans, seem more flexible and negotiable. They mentioned rates between 350 K and 500 K.

Work mamasans and make them reduce rates.[/QUOTE]I missed info that about classic 1. You mean classic 1 is literally on first floor?

When I got to classic today evening I was directed directly to club which by pricing was Classic (375 and 500€.

And short relation.

I've got there today (Friday) at 20. Quite full with customers already - 90% Asian.

At the entrance mamasan grabbed me to show ladies. I've asked her to leave me alone and that I want to see place first before I decide what to do.

She was not pushing and got away.

There were at least 50 girls waiting on sofas. It was really impressive to see mamasans pointing out and lining up girls for customers.

All the girls looked bored. They were giggling only when interacting between themselves. At least 10 girls where 7+ in my subjective standards (slim but round ass, small to medium breast, rather tall).

Rotation was high and I saw some guys „stealing" girls I was willing to choose so I've asked mamasan to line up girls for me.

She brought 5 girls with prices 375 for one and 500 for 2. I've chosen 2 closest to my taste. One was medium height, nice ass, cup be (I would rate her 8) and second was taller with small breast, nice shape of the body, small tits (7).

Mamasan took me to the checkout. After paying 500 k girls took me downstairs to the room. Room is very small not to clean but also acceptable. Girls undressed me and we took shower together where they washed my dick. After that we went to bed. They cleaned my chest, neck, dick and balls with disinfectant. Girl A started to give me blowjob and Girl be was kissing / biting my tits and licking my neck. I gave some instructions to suck my balls and lick them A and she followed this request. I've tried to finger be while she was kissing me but she refused. I've suggested very generous tip if she agrees but she rejected again saying that she is afraid of getting infection.

After some time girl A proposed condom and sex. I've replied that first I want them both sucking my dick. They refused saying that only one can give the blowjob due to hygienic standards. Than I've suggested that be washes my dick again and gives me blowjob. She agreed and after shower they changed roles. Be was giving me BJ while A was kissing my body (before that they cleaned me with disinfectant again).

After few minutes I've asked for sex. Be took a condom and try to put it on. She got difficulties and condom has broken. Than she took a second one and again she was putting it on completely against rules, I've suggested that I know better and can wear it myself but she said that she wants to have it under control. So finally she put the condom on leaving full air bubble on top. I've asked her to sit on me. It was difficult for her take my full dick in the beginning but she was trying hard after she managed to take him in. A was kissing my chest and neck all the time. Afters few minutes we have changed position to missionary and later to doggystyle. During doggystyle condom has broken (due to air bulb and her overall tightness). She didn't realize but I didn't want to risk so I've stopped fucking her. She was not scared and too worried just concluded, too big dick."

I've asked for sex with A. We took a shower again. Thank full disinfection (I was never that clean. A started to put condom. Again improperly. This time I've said that I know better and don't won't to have another accident. She agreed. I've showed her how she should wear the condom and allowed her to repeat with the last one they had. She did it right. We have started with A sitting on me but she didn't manage to get on. So we have changed position to doggystyle. This was better. She was getting excited at some point. Be was kissing me and slapping my ass. Surprisingly be started to be very active, biting me and playing with me. This was really nice I've finished after after couple of minutes. Girls took a shower together and after that laid next to me. I've got a chat with be as A new only couple of words in English. I've learned that be (horny one) was 22 and 5 months in the business while A was 21 and first month in the business. We continued chat for couple of minutes. Girls washed me under shower. I've have each of them 100 k tip.

I've asked be if she would visit me at my hotel next time when I'm in Indonesia so we can do more crazy things. She agreed. So I will try to date her out of classic to get more GFE and fun together.

Overall conclusion about classic. I think you can find good looking girls there. However overall concept of fucking girl there doesn't work for me. They don't allow fingering, licking pussy etc. So you cannot really do anything to give them orgasm. And without giving them orgasm first this is difficult to get passionate sex. It's simply too mechanical and transactional. They are nice but this is just quick sex for a guy under pressure to have quick sex.

I think classic could be a good place for playing tactic described by Captain Solo. You find the girl there, convince her to share what's up number and you date her offsite with good deal that goes to her pocket in full. I will check soon if my be will get close to Nesiya.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2888749]Oh boy, this made my day after the week I've had.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thanks also. I gave up on Grab but will try again.

I was screening forum to find more details how exactly this feel option works.

Can anyone describe more in detail experience? Eventually can you help with finding a link to review? I didn't crack search option yet. It always leads me to threads that are not really related to my question.

Thanks.

Classic 2 pushes quantity over quality. I could not find any girl to my liking there.

That 500 K 3 some deal is a good treat, I should have taken it.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2888929]Since when were the rates negotiable?

The 500 k rate in classic 2 is for 2 girls ie 3 some.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2889034]I missed info that about classic 1. You mean classic 1 is literally on first floor?

When I got to classic today evening I was directed directly to club which by pricing was Classic (375 and 500.

And short relation.

I've got there today (Friday) at 20. Quite full with customers already - 90% Asian.

At the entrance mamasan grabbed me to show ladies. I've asked her to leave me alone and that I want to see place first before I decide what to do.

She was not pushing and got away.

There were at least 50 girls waiting on sofas. It was really impressive to see mamasans pointing out and lining up girls for customers.

All the girls looked bored. They were giggling only when interacting between themselves. At least 10 girls where 7+ in my subjective standards (slim but round ass, small to medium breast, rather tall).

Rotation was high and I saw some guys stealing" girls I was willing to choose so I've asked mamasan to line up girls for me.

She brought 5 girls with prices 375 for one and 500 for 2. I've chosen 2 closest to my taste. One was medium height, nice ass, cup be (I would rate her 8) and second was taller with small breast, nice shape of the body, small tits (7).

Mamasan took me to the checkout. After paying 500 k girls took me downstairs to the room. Room is very small not to clean but also acceptable. Girls undressed me and we took shower together where they washed my dick. After that we went to bed. They cleaned my chest, neck, dick and balls with disinfectant. Girl A started to give me blowjob and Girl be was kissing / biting my tits and licking my neck. I gave some instructions to suck my balls and lick them A and she followed this request. I've tried to finger be while she was kissing me but she refused. I've suggested very generous tip if she agrees but she rejected again saying that she is afraid of getting infection.

After some time girl A proposed condom and sex. I've replied that first I want them both sucking my dick. They refused saying that only one can give the blowjob due to hygienic standards. Than I've suggested that be washes my dick again and gives me blowjob. She agreed and after shower they changed roles. Be was giving me BJ while A was kissing my body (before that they cleaned me with disinfectant again).

After few minutes I've asked for sex. Be took a condom and try to put it on. She got difficulties and condom has broken. Than she took a second one and again she was putting it on completely against rules, I've suggested that I know better and can wear it myself but she said that she wants to have it under control. So finally she put the condom on leaving full air bubble on top. I've asked her to sit on me. It was difficult for her take my full dick in the beginning but she was trying hard after she managed to take him in. A was kissing my chest and neck all the time. Afters few minutes we have changed position to missionary and later to doggystyle. During doggystyle condom has broken (due to air bulb and her overall tightness). She didn't realize but I didn't want to risk so I've stopped fucking her. She was not scared and too worried just concluded, too big dick."

I've asked for sex with A. We took a shower again. Thank full disinfection (I was never that clean. A started to put condom. Again improperly. This time I've said that I know better and don't won't to have another accident. She agreed. I've showed her how she should wear the condom and allowed her to repeat with the last one they had. She did it right. We have started with A sitting on me but she didn't manage to get on. So we have changed position to doggystyle. This was better. She was getting excited at some point. Be was kissing me and slapping my ass. Surprisingly be started to be very active, biting me and playing with me. This was really nice I've finished after after couple of minutes. Girls took a shower together and after that laid next to me. I've got a chat with be as A new only couple of words in English. I've learned that be (horny one) was 22 and 5 months in the business while A was 21 and first month in the business. We continued chat for couple of minutes. Girls washed me under shower. I've have each of them 100 k tip.

I've asked be if she would visit me at my hotel next time when I'm in Indonesia so we can do more crazy things. She agreed. So I will try to date her out of classic to get more GFE and fun together.

Overall conclusion about classic. I think you can find good looking girls there. However overall concept of fucking girl there doesn't work for me. They don't allow fingering, licking pussy etc. So you cannot really do anything to give them orgasm. And without giving them orgasm first this is difficult to get passionate sex. It's simply too mechanical and transactional. They are nice but this is just quick sex for a guy under pressure to have quick sex.

I think classic could be a good place for playing tactic described by Captain Solo. You find the girl there, convince her to share what's up number and you date her offsite with good deal that goes to her pocket in full. I will check soon if my be will get close to Nesiya.[/QUOTE]Nice report. But honestly, sounds like you got a couple of duds as far as the girls go. No this, no that, must this, must that. I'd always check with the mamasan to make sure the girls you're thinking baout choosing will agree to whatever you're expecting. Otherwise. For sure there will be others who will.

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2889036]Wow. Thanks also. I gave up on Grab but will try again.

I was screening forum to find more details how exactly this feel option works.

Can anyone describe more in detail experience? Eventually can you help with finding a link to review? I didn't crack search option yet. It always leads me to threads that are not really related to my question.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's quite simple, actually. As you approach the Grab-ber, just wink. If she, or he, winks back or smiles, that's a sign for you to just jump and once you're moving reach around and grab her tits. If it's a guy, then grab the willie. And don't forget to tip afterward.

Bro, in my view you were simply unlucky. Almost all allow licking fingering (both holes I may add) and much more. Mentioned several times on the forum here, try to avoid threesomes at classic, overall performance comes down notably, girls get shy and depend on the other one to give you service. If you take just 1 girl you can get much more out of her in room including nude pictures and her contact. BBFS CIM Anal also on the menu. Be more convincing next time and report.

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2889034]I missed info that about classic 1. You mean classic 1 is literally on first floor?

When I got to classic today evening I was directed directly to club which by pricing was Classic (375 and 500.

And short relation.

I've got there today (Friday) at 20. Quite full with customers already - 90% Asian.

At the entrance mamasan grabbed me to show ladies. I've asked her to leave me alone and that I want to see place first before I decide what to do.

She was not pushing and got away.

There were at least 50 girls waiting on sofas. It was really impressive to see mamasans pointing out and lining up girls for customers.

All the girls looked bored. They were giggling only when interacting between themselves. At least 10 girls where 7+ in my subjective standards (slim but round ass, small to medium breast, rather tall).

Rotation was high and I saw some guys stealing" girls I was willing to choose so I've asked mamasan to line up girls for me.

She brought 5 girls with prices 375 for one and 500 for 2. I've chosen 2 closest to my taste. One was medium height, nice ass, cup be (I would rate her 8) and second was taller with small breast, nice shape of the body, small tits (7).

Mamasan took me to the checkout. After paying 500 k girls took me downstairs to the room. Room is very small not to clean but also acceptable. Girls undressed me and we took shower together where they washed my dick. After that we went to bed. They cleaned my chest, neck, dick and balls with disinfectant. Girl A started to give me blowjob and Girl be was kissing / biting my tits and licking my neck. I gave some instructions to suck my balls and lick them A and she followed this request. I've tried to finger be while she was kissing me but she refused. I've suggested very generous tip if she agrees but she rejected again saying that she is afraid of getting infection.

After some time girl A proposed condom and sex. I've replied that first I want them both sucking my dick. They refused saying that only one can give the blowjob due to hygienic standards. Than I've suggested that be washes my dick again and gives me blowjob. She agreed and after shower they changed roles. Be was giving me BJ while A was kissing my body (before that they cleaned me with disinfectant again).

After few minutes I've asked for sex. Be took a condom and try to put it on. She got difficulties and condom has broken. Than she took a second one and again she was putting it on completely against rules, I've suggested that I know better and can wear it myself but she said that she wants to have it under control. So finally she put the condom on leaving full air bubble on top. I've asked her to sit on me. It was difficult for her take my full dick in the beginning but she was trying hard after she managed to take him in. A was kissing my chest and neck all the time. Afters few minutes we have changed position to missionary and later to doggystyle. During doggystyle condom has broken (due to air bulb and her overall tightness). She didn't realize but I didn't want to risk so I've stopped fucking her. She was not scared and too worried just concluded, too big dick."

I've asked for sex with A. We took a shower again. Thank full disinfection (I was never that clean. A started to put condom. Again improperly. This time I've said that I know better and don't won't to have another accident. She agreed. I've showed her how she should wear the condom and allowed her to repeat with the last one they had. She did it right. We have started with A sitting on me but she didn't manage to get on. So we have changed position to doggystyle. This was better. She was getting excited at some point. Be was kissing me and slapping my ass. Surprisingly be started to be very active, biting me and playing with me. This was really nice I've finished after after couple of minutes. Girls took a shower together and after that laid next to me. I've got a chat with be as A new only couple of words in English. I've learned that be (horny one) was 22 and 5 months in the business while A was 21 and first month in the business. We continued chat for couple of minutes. Girls washed me under shower. I've have each of them 100 k tip.

I've asked be if she would visit me at my hotel next time when I'm in Indonesia so we can do more crazy things. She agreed. So I will try to date her out of classic to get more GFE and fun together.

Overall conclusion about classic. I think you can find good looking girls there. However overall concept of fucking girl there doesn't work for me. They don't allow fingering, licking pussy etc. So you cannot really do anything to give them orgasm. And without giving them orgasm first this is difficult to get passionate sex. It's simply too mechanical and transactional. They are nice but this is just quick sex for a guy under pressure to have quick sex.

I think classic could be a good place for playing tactic described by Captain Solo. You find the girl there, convince her to share what's up number and you date her offsite with good deal that goes to her pocket in full. I will check soon if my be will get close to Nesiya.[/QUOTE]

Mods will not allow posting tel nos.

Mods want you to subscribe to use PMs.

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2887437]Do let me know Captain!

Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2889036]Wow. Thanks also. I gave up on Grab but will try again.

I was screening forum to find more details how exactly this feel option works.

Can anyone describe more in detail experience? Eventually can you help with finding a link to review? I didn't crack search option yet. It always leads me to threads that are not really related to my question.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I sense some cronyism. Grab Feel got the green light, yet the Indonesian government knocked back a Chinese submission for the exact same service called DiDi DaDa.

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2889036]Wow. Thanks also. I gave up on Grab but will try again.

I was screening forum to find more details how exactly this feel option works.

Can anyone describe more in detail experience?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

OS had just finished getting his weekly enema and needed to get home to lady OS. Waiting for the ride, he decided to take grab feel and selected his rider.

Suddenly a motorcycle pulled up with the most beautiful girl OS had ever seen, she winked at me with a big smile and motioned me to hop on.

We pulled away from the kerb and the wind was blowing in our hair. OS couldn't help but notice the insistent throbbing of the motorcycle engine or the way this model of a rider was grinding her hips around on the seat as we weaved our way down the boulevard. OS pushed his body closer and felt her shudder as he pressed up against her. He slowly worked his hand under her green grab jacket and up her back, suddenly realizing she had nothing on underneath the jacket. He moved his hand around the front to cup the firmest pair of 36 DD breast's he had ever felt.

Now she was moaning and OS could hear her shortened breathing above the sounds of the honking car horns as we weaved our way through the traffic. Slowly OS worked one hand down under the jacket while rubbing the 36 DD's with the other untill her hard lump of a clitoris was pulsing in his hand in unison with the motorcycle engine. OS was able to loosen his big thing and slide it down under her where it pushed up against her anus. On we travelled, past shop fronts, tofu vendors and squashed rats untill with a gigantic shudder she orgasmed and we nearly hit the sidewalk.

By this time OS was nearly home, she tidied up her clothing before the drop off and with another wink and a smile, dropped OS outside his front door.

Hope that helps!

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2889164] Mentioned several times on the forum here, try to avoid threesomes at classic, overall performance comes down notably, girls get shy and depend on the other one to give you service. If you take just 1 girl you can get much more out of her in room including nude pictures and her contact. BBFS CIM Anal also on the menu. Be more convincing next time and report.[/QUOTE]Yeah but sometimes you can hit the jackpot. My first pull at classic was a 3 some of a 19 and 20 year old, both very new and fresh. Got the full proper 3 some, BBFS, alternate fucking, dual BJ with none of the cleaning nonsense after the original shower. For like 30 bucks ID take another flyer. Whats the worst that can happen? Mediocre sex? I can accept that risk.

GFE (Grab Feel Express) has touched so many lives.

It's only one month in but I think we have the winner of POTY (Punter Of The Year) - OS!

For services over and above the calling for detailing the joys of Grab Feel Express (GFE). I personally am grateful for the provision of this information. I have learnt so much about fellow punters here it is invaluable. I eagerly await the moment I can Grab a Feel myself, and even more eagerly await the reports back from the esteemed punters here as they detail their joyous experiences with GFE and the Sharia polisi!

I've been led to believe there is a similar scheme operating in the malls as well. The Shop Feel Experience. Just reach over the counter when you spy a cute young thing and cop a feel. SFE kicks in by default. Can't wait to get in on this! Any reports on this are welcome so I know I will be doing it right!

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2889164] BBFS CIM Anal also on the menu. Be more convincing next time and report.[/QUOTE]Can some seniors chime if they have ever managed to get Anal in classic? I was under the impression that Anal is difficult in Indonesia and impossible in Classic, Travel etc.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2889354]Can some seniors chime if they have ever managed to get Anal in classic? I was under the impression that Anal is difficult in Indonesia and impossible in Classic, Travel etc.[/QUOTE]You can probably answer that question yourself by sticking a cucumber up your arse and then report back to us how it feels. OS has had it but extremely rarely.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2889364]OS has had it but extremely rarely.[/QUOTE]Is that the cucumber up your arse or anal. ;-)

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2889354]Can some seniors chime if they have ever managed to get Anal in classic? I was under the impression that Anal is difficult in Indonesia and impossible in Classic, Travel etc.[/QUOTE]I've had several girls out of BAT's who did anal on their second or third outing with me, was not something they would do first out, even if their ass bore all the signs of doing it. A few others requested fingers up the ass whilst DATY but no anal allowed. My regular Uni student freebie who was an absolute porn star wanted to try, but ended up being unable to deal with a finger up her ass let alone anything else.

Can't say about availability in the Classic (never been), but certainly elsewhere it was something that could be obtained. Wasn't something I talked about on first meeting as it was never going to be a deal breaker for a pick-up from a bar.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2889221]OS had just finished getting his weekly enema and needed to get home to lady OS. Waiting for the ride, he decided to take grab feel and selected his rider.

Suddenly a motorcycle pulled up with the most beautiful girl OS had ever seen, she winked at me with a big smile and motioned me to hop on.

We pulled away from the kerb and the wind was blowing in our hair. OS couldn't help but notice the insistent throbbing of the motorcycle engine or the way this model of a rider was grinding her hips around on the seat as we weaved our way down the boulevard. OS pushed his body closer and felt her shudder as he pressed up against her. He slowly worked his hand under her green grab jacket and up her back, suddenly realizing she had nothing on underneath the jacket. He moved his hand around the front to cup the firmest pair of 36 DD breast's he had ever felt.

Now she was moaning and OS could hear her shortened breathing above the sounds of the honking car horns as we weaved our way through the traffic. Slowly OS worked one hand down under the jacket while rubbing the 36 DD's with the other untill her hard lump of a clitoris was pulsing in his hand in unison with the motorcycle engine. OS was able to loosen his big thing and slide it down under her where it pushed up against her anus. On we travelled, past shop fronts, tofu vendors and squashed rats untill with a gigantic shudder she orgasmed and we nearly hit the sidewalk.

By this time OS was nearly home, she tidied up her clothing before the drop off and with another wink and a smile, dropped OS outside his front door.

Hope that helps![/QUOTE]And that is how you do it! Can't wait to hear your report on the new trend, Grab Shop. Grab Lunch is another one I will attempt soon.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2889354]Can some seniors chime if they have ever managed to get Anal in classic? I was under the impression that Anal is difficult in Indonesia and impossible in Classic, Travel etc.[/QUOTE]I saw some old dude getting it up the ass with a cucumber in Classic last week. It could have been a daikon radish though, it was dark. I think all you have to do is ask a mamasan for it.

Absolutely not, its available. I plugged a few glory holes, BBFS was also on cards but I played it safe. Just treat the girls nicely and be polite, stand your ground for the extra service. Tip her 100 k its nothing in the overall scheme of things and goes a long way. In one instance I got much more and I tipped her generously 200 k, she was delighted. Went with her again the next day, even better service.

[QUOTE=KilledSoul;2889354]Can some seniors chime if they have ever managed to get Anal in classic? I was under the impression that Anal is difficult in Indonesia and impossible in Classic, Travel etc.[/QUOTE]

At 30 odd bucks its a no brainer. Get as many different bodies in room and fulfil your fantasies. I just felt when you bring 2 ladies together chances of good sex reduces as one rely on the other to perform. Of course there might be a few isolated good experiences just like yours. If given a chance again, yours truly would rather have sessions with 4 different bodies than bring 2 x2 together. I remember I picked a chick at classic and asked her to bring any friend for a threesome. Surprisingly she said a big No and hugged me. Promised she'll do everything in room and she delivered, like how.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2889245]Yeah but sometimes you can hit the jackpot. My first pull at classic was a 3 some of a 19 and 20 year old, both very new and fresh. Got the full proper 3 some, BBFS, alternate fucking, dual BJ with none of the cleaning nonsense after the original shower. For like 30 bucks ID take another flyer. Whats the worst that can happen? Mediocre sex? I can accept that risk.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2889386]I saw some old dude getting it up the ass with a cucumber in Classic last week. It could have been a daikon radish though, it was dark. I think all you have to do is ask a mamasan for it.[/QUOTE]Tends to be the slightly older women, in their thirties. I wouldn't think Travel and Classic would be the best hunting grounds, but you never know your luck. You generally can't ask the Mamas, they will say they don't have anyone who does it. And when I found one who did, she asked me not to mention it to any of the others. Maybe it's officially discouraged?

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2889417]At 30 odd bucks its a no brainer. Get as many different bodies in room and fulfil your fantasies. I just felt when you bring 2 ladies together chances of good sex reduces as one rely on the other to perform. Of course there might be a few isolated good experiences just like yours. If given a chance again, yours truly would rather have sessions with 4 different bodies than bring 2 x2 together. I remember I picked a chick at classic and asked her to bring any friend for a threesome. Surprisingly she said a big No and hugged me. Promised she'll do everything in room and she delivered, like how.[/QUOTE]One thing about threesomes. You have to control the action. If you tell the girls exactly what they should be doing they usually comply. If you leave it up to them, they usually don't know what to do or follow some script which is not sexy. I think of it as directing my own porno while being the main star. This has worked for me in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia or anywhere I choose to do it.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2889383]And that is how you do it! Can't wait to hear your report on the new trend, Grab Shop. Grab Lunch is another one I will attempt soon.[/QUOTE]Grab airlines should be fun.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2888821]Classic 1 has 3 tiers sitting separately, 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. The sign at cashier says " Do not haggle rates. " I paid 600 K to go with Nesya.

Classic 2's rates are up to mamasans, seem more flexible and negotiable. They mentioned rates between 350 K and 500 K.

Work mamasans and make them reduce rates.[/QUOTE]Classic on the ground floor, the Mamasan quoted me three rates.

Yellow badge -600 k.

White badge -650 k.

No badge -800 k.

Was I ripped off?

Awesome report Amigo.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2886593]Flew from Singapore to Jakarta on Air Asia, 2. 5-hour non stop, $60. Plane was 98% loaded with lots of Indonesians and women in head covers.

Grab cars from airport to Classic should cost about 180 K are or $13, but fake Grab will quote 280 K are. Jakarta is a huge slum, a lot poorer and dirtier than Bangkok. Traffic was very heavy midday. ISG is banned, had to subscribe to a VPN. Stores sell no alcohol due to Sharia laws.

Checked into hotel Classic in the North part of Jakarta, infamous girls club, near the National Monument, Jakarta cathedral and main Mosque, all shiny marble floor and red teak wood furniture, nice, clean, classy with Chinese NY decorations, easily 5-star in LOS Angeles, $31 by Agoda.

The connected shopping mall had no client. Went to the swanky steak restaurant but it had no steak, had to order seafood fried rice which was very good.

Met up with an ISG bro, checked out Travel club, it had 50 spinners lounging lazily on couches, not very sexy. The extreme loud music and thick smoke were unbearable. We retreated to a juice store to talk. He still had jet lag after 27 hours in flight, so I went back to Classic.

2 clubs occupy the mall next to Classic, 30 K T cover, redeemable with sodas but not alcohol. Each had about 50 girls, almost all pretty spinners. The 2nd floor is a strip club, very loud music and heavy smoke, girls lounging lifelessly on couches. Aggressive mamasans swarm over pushing shit.

1st floor is a karaoke club, hot girls sing and dance on stage, old men belching songs, lower noise and smoke, young girls walk about playing, most are hot spinners, pretty faces, light skin ect very cute. This club is way more laid back, no pushy mamasans, nobody spoke enough English to explain to me the protocold to book a deal. Chunky manager explained girls sit in 3 groups, 375,410 and 600 are, $25,28 and 38 an hour incl. The room on premises. I quickly grabbed the cutest spinner flirting around I had my eyes on all along.

A big baller suggested I buy her a drink to feel get up. She ordered a Korean Sujo 125 K, my 2 Heins 200 K. We sat in a dark spot drinking. She was smiling with her pretty face and dental braces, cute like a doll, with a light sexy fragrance, from Yogyakarta, Java. I quickly kissed her mouth, sucked her tongue, copped her nice boobs, creamy thighs and soft crotch to confirm the goods. She exuded sweet, sexy, youthful femininity. My dick was rising uncontrollably just sitting next to her. She tried to use G Translate but it did not do Indonesian, WTF?

She took me to cashier to pay 410 K in cash, then went downstairs to the basement through arched stone tunnels like dungeons in castle to a room, nice, clean new sheets and towels with a shower but no toilet.

She was a beautiful spinner, about 5 ft 90 lbs, all natural A cups, softest, smoothest lightskin. I was sucking on her softest lips and perky tits. She was stroking my dick then gave me a very strong BBBJ. She mounted me in CG, struggled to penetrate my dick into her tiny and tight pussy. She got going, thrusting, moaning, stooping down to DFK.

She wanted doggie, loved it, groaning as I rammed her hard. We switched to mish a while. She opened her legs for me to eat her tiny pussy. We switched back to doggie then finished in mish. I popped hard, exhausted, panting. She was pleasant and sexy throughout. Gave her 50 K tip, she was pouting, asked for 1 more but I declined.

She gave me her tel for OTC dates. Would love to pin her down again. My dick is growing just thinking about that nice tight body squirming under me. Hard to find girls hot like her in BKK, and they would cost $150-180ST.

Quality, convenience, prices, Jakarta is a heaven for mongers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;2889629]Tends to be the slightly older women, in their thirties. I wouldn't think Travel and Classic would be the best hunting grounds, but you never know your luck. You generally can't ask the Mamas, they will say they don't have anyone who does it. And when I found one who did, she asked me not to mention it to any of the others. Maybe it's officially discouraged?[/QUOTE]So how was it having a banger in the ass from a slightly older woman in her thirties? Cuke or daikon?

[QUOTE=Bwenz;2888765]Wait classic has multiple tiers? I thought it was 365?[/QUOTE]In Classic second floor, 365 K for one girl and 500 K for two girls together. Hope this clarifies.

Has anyone visited or tried services of Revoo (Talent) Karaoke & Spa in Jakarta. The guy sends me regular updates and he has some serious talent. Just wondering if anyone knows about this venue or has availed their services before.

Also, any information about Three Horse Bar / Tiga Kuda Bar. One of my girls said she regularly visits this place for good upscale clients. Apparently good line up of FL here.

Do any soapy massage places exist in Jakarta?

Also wondering if anyone might be willing to share contact details (pm) or info on any PSE providers in Jakarta?

As I am getting ready for my trip to Jakarta. I was looking at Telegram and one of the groups was some premium escort girls. Just out of curiousity I messaged them about their ST / LT prices and I was quoted an astounding 8. 5 million IDR ST /11.5 Million LT. Has anyone used this service at premiumescorts and are they really that top shelf to dole out 500 USD for 2 hours?

Gustavo.

I was quoted 3 separate groups: those seating in booths near the stage, 600 K; those seating at tables in the middle, 410 K; those seating on couches in the far back, 375 K.

Perhaps mamasans felt the python squirming in your short?

Classic seems to have tight management policies. I don't understand why prices are higher for you.

[QUOTE=Gustavo7;2889807]Classic on the ground floor, the Mamasan quoted me three rates.

Yellow badge -600 k.

White badge -650 k.

No badge -800 k.

Was I ripped off?[/QUOTE]

Gustavo.

I was quoted 3 separate groups: those seating in booths near the stage, 600 K; those seating at tables in the middle, 410 K; those seating on couches in the far back, 375 K.

Perhaps mamasans felt the python squirming in your short?

Classic seems to have tight management policies. I don't understand why prices are higher for you. Perhaps Classic just raised it's prices? We need some bros to confirm prices.

[QUOTE=Gustavo7;2889807]Classic on the ground floor, the Mamasan quoted me three rates.

Yellow badge -600 k.

White badge -650 k.

No badge -800 k.

Was I ripped off?[/QUOTE]

Kris.

These Telegram escorts rates are extortionate and ridiculous. The bros should be smarter than that. Tell them to stick their high rates up their asses.

We should help nice girls make their life good and comfortable, but not to become Empress Dowagers. We should never have to beg for pussies.

Rates in Classic 1 is 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. Even those rates are premiums.

Some bros are getting local rates, girls go to their places long, loving sessions for 200 K. They don't take kindly to guys paying way higher than local rates and making it too expensive and impossible for other bros to enjoy the female companies. They have complained to me about loud fake guys who throw money around foolishly.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2890086]As I am getting ready for my trip to Jakarta. I was looking at Telegram and one of the groups was some premium escort girls. Just out of curiousity I messaged them about their ST / LT prices and I was quoted an astounding 8. 5 million IDR ST /11.5 Million LT. Has anyone used this service at premiumescorts and are they really that top shelf to dole out 500 USD for 2 hours?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Anyone in Jakarta from Feb. 4 to 9. Please ping me. It's my first time to Jakarta and need your inputs!

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2889918]

Also, any information about Three Horse Bar / Tiga Kuda Bar. One of my girls said she regularly visits this place for good upscale clients. Apparently good line up of FL here.[/QUOTE]It might have changed because I haven-t be there for some time. But it used to be one of the places that are frequented by especially Arab / Middle Eastern men, known to prefer Rubens types of girls.

And it was a normal sight there to see a couple of those men dancing with each other rather seductively.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890107]Gustavo.

I was quoted 3 separate groups: those seating in booths near the stage, 600 K; those seating at tables in the middle, 410 K; those seating on couches in the far back, 375 K.

Perhaps mamasans felt the python squirming in your short?

Classic seems to have tight management policies. I don't understand why prices are higher for you. Perhaps Classic just raised it's prices? We need some bros to confirm prices.[/QUOTE]The price that was quoted to me was around 20-24th Dec 2023.

This will be my first time so wanted to know what is the protocol at Classic and Good Travel. I understand classic has two establishments, on first and second floor with 2nd floor being a strip club.

Are girls nude on the 2nd floor?

Do you have a cover charge to enter these 3 places?

Upon entering, are you just supposed to roam around checking girls like in Thermae at Bangkok or are you supposed to talk to mamasan or just sit down and order a drink?

Can someone please describe briefly for a Jakarta virgin?

Thank you in advance for some tips.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2890359]This will be my first time so wanted to know what is the protocol at Classic and Good Travel. I understand classic has two establishments, on first and second floor with 2nd floor being a strip club.

Are girls nude on the 2nd floor?

Do you have a cover charge to enter these 3 places?

Upon entering, are you just supposed to roam around checking girls like in Thermae at Bangkok or are you supposed to talk to mamasan or just sit down and order a drink?
[/QUOTE]There is no strip club in Classic. 1st floor at the entrance is Bunker. Very loud. 2 escalators up is the main bar where everyone goes. I think 5th floor is still open but I never go up there. May check it out tonight though. 2nd floor has a nominal cover of $2-3 US that is wiped out if you take a girl to a room. Drinks are nominal. Paid 83 k for 3 drinks the other night. Sadly Classic Spa is closed. Travel is the same as Classic main room. For me the best Classic girls sits on the stage side and the best Travel girls are in the pool room.

You will be attacked by a mamasan when entering Travel and Classic. They are aggressive but, unlike mamasans in Thailand gogo bars, these ones can actually help you. Just walk around on your own. Mama will follow you.

There is no nudity. You need to go to Malio for nudity and a strip club atmosphere.

Quoting from Margaya's Questions.

For Classic:

Q. Are girls nude on the 2nd floor?

No. Nudity only begins once you take a lady or two back into the onsite hotel rooms.

Q. Do you have a cover charge to enter these 3 places?

Technically yes. When you enter they will put a bracelet with a number on your arm. This allows them to keep your Bill up to date and invoiced. It's like about maybe $4. 00 USD but we always spend WAY WAY WAY more than that. This must be to keep the l00zerz out of the club. Very minimal entry fee. By the way, when you leave you will pay your bill in the front of Classic and then pivot to turn around to exit and there are 3 smiley friendly guys who are just waiting for some idiot to try to leave without paying. Just saying. I know you aren't the type to run off without paying. But Classic is professionally ran!

Q. Upon entering, are you just supposed to roam around checking girls like in Thermae at Bangkok or are you supposed to talk to mamasan or just sit down and order a drink?

Upon entering the Mamasan's will Attack You and Force you to see her ladies. She will point a Green laser pointer and ask you (Go Up? Go Up? 2 Girls You want to take 2 to go up to room?) - very very pushy but there are different mamasans on the floor so if the lineup presented is not good. Then you can walk around like you asked. For me I only needed to see a very few choices since most ladies there are young and thin. Oh and the waitresses are different from the mamas and are not especially pushy. Waitresses are the most calm and polite people in Classic. But Beer is served with ice cubes and isn't very cold.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890149]Kris.

These Telegram escorts rates are extortionate and ridiculous. The bros should be smarter than that. Tell them to stick their high rates up their asses.

We should help nice girls make their life good and comfortable, but not to become Empress Dowagers. We should never have to beg for pussies.

Rates in Classic 1 is 375 K, 410 K and 600 K. Even those rates are premiums.

Some bros are getting local rates, girls go to their places long, loving sessions for 200 K. They don't take kindly to guys paying way higher than local rates and making it too expensive and impossible for other bros to enjoy the female companies. They have complained to me about loud fake guys who throw money around foolishly.[/QUOTE]Totally agree on the jackwads who are paying WAYYYY too much for sex in Indonesia. Driving the price up helps nobody and could get you whacked, and rightfully so, by the local guys.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2890086]As I am getting ready for my trip to Jakarta. I was looking at Telegram and one of the groups was some premium escort girls. Just out of curiousity I messaged them about their ST / LT prices and I was quoted an astounding 8. 5 million IDR ST /11.5 Million LT. Has anyone used this service at premiumescorts and are they really that top shelf to dole out 500 USD for 2 hours?[/QUOTE]You'd be an absolute IDIOT to pay that kind of money. Read the damn forum and see what the going rates are. Smh.

Ok, is the place still any good. Should one visit for FL hunting! How is the line up compared to CJ's / BATS.

[QUOTE=Menteng;2890263]It might have changed because I haven-t be there for some time. But it used to be one of the places that are frequented by especially Arab / Middle Eastern men, known to prefer Rubens types of girls.

And it was a normal sight there to see a couple of those men dancing with each other rather seductively.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2890372]There is no strip club in Classic. 1st floor at the entrance is Bunker. Very loud. 2 escalators up is the main bar where everyone goes. I think 5th floor is still open but I never go up there. May check it out tonight though. 2nd floor has a nominal cover of $2-3 US that is wiped out if you take a girl to a room. Drinks are nominal. Paid 83 k for 3 drinks the other night. Sadly Classic Spa is closed. Travel is the same as Classic main room. For me the best Classic girls sits on the stage side and the best Travel girls are in the pool room.

You will be attacked by a mamasan when entering Travel and Classic. They are aggressive but, unlike mamasans in Thailand gogo bars, these ones can actually help you. Just walk around on your own. Mama will follow you.

There is no nudity. You need to go to Malio for nudity and a strip club atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Classic Spa is closed?! Say it aint so! When did you go? Was it closed for the day, or for upgrades or what? It was the best spot in Nov when I went there.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2890372]There is no strip club in Classic. 1st floor at the entrance is Bunker. Very loud. 2 escalators up is the main bar where everyone goes. I think 5th floor is still open but I never go up there. May check it out tonight though. 2nd floor has a nominal cover of $2-3 US that is wiped out if you take a girl to a room. Drinks are nominal. Paid 83 k for 3 drinks the other night. Sadly Classic Spa is closed. Travel is the same as Classic main room. For me the best Classic girls sits on the stage side and the best Travel girls are in the pool room.

You will be attacked by a mamasan when entering Travel and Classic. They are aggressive but, unlike mamasans in Thailand gogo bars, these ones can actually help you. Just walk around on your own. Mama will follow you.

There is no nudity. You need to go to Malio for nudity and a strip club atmosphere.[/QUOTE]Last time I went they strip naked oh. Maybe nowdays not allowed?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890107]Gustavo.

I was quoted 3 separate groups: those seating in booths near the stage, 600 K; those seating at tables in the middle, 410 K; those seating on couches in the far back, 375 K.

Perhaps mamasans felt the python squirming in your short?

Classic seems to have tight management policies. I don't understand why prices are higher for you. Perhaps Classic just raised it's prices? We need some bros to confirm prices.[/QUOTE]600 k was the most prettiest I persumed? Last time I went its only one price for all but the quality were bad. LOL.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890437]Classic Spa is closed?! Say it aint so! When did you go? Was it closed for the day, or for upgrades or what? It was the best spot in Nov when I went there.[/QUOTE]I am at Classic hotel at the moment and checked, Classic spa is open and droves of girls went in at 6 PM.

I had been to Jakarta few years back, that time went to malio and classic. Heard there were Alexis but never tried, heard it closed down? Any new establishment? Feeling to go again soon and maybe going down to Bandung using the new high speed train, as that time when I was there the train was not there yet and had to use car and the road was not pleasent haha.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890437]Classic Spa is closed?! Say it aint so! When did you go? Was it closed for the day, or for upgrades or what? It was the best spot in Nov when I went there.[/QUOTE]Been at Classic twice this week but didn't actually check Classic Spa cause it says permanently closed on Google. Will check it out again tomorrow.

Anyone know the rates? IIRC starts at 600k and up to 1.2 million give or take.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2890508]Been at Classic twice this week but didn't actually check Classic Spa cause it says permanently closed on Google. Will check it out again tomorrow.

Anyone know the rates? IIRC starts at 600k and up to 1.2 million give or take.[/QUOTE]It was open in November. 2 categories of girls, 400 and 600 I think. I took the 600 category and had the best threesome of 20+ years of mongering.

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2890481]I am at Classic hotel at the moment and checked, Classic spa is open and droves of girls went in at 6 PM.[/QUOTE]Phew. I'm heading there in End Feb. Or early March so this is good news.

Been in Jakarta a week now. The usual crap. Classic, Travel, Kelapa Gading, New Medika, Kota indah. I'll only do updates on places I likely won't be retuning to this trip more because they are further away. Overall Jakarta is still the same but in a lot of ways it isn't.

Kelapa Gading. It was early. 4:45 pm. Walked in to MTR2. Maybe 8-10 girls. No customers. 1 or 2 girls passable but I knew I had to check out King Cross first. Walked in. Am I in the right place? KC used to be massive. Now it's a bunch of pool tables and some large sofas in the back for girls to sit. Some basic tables spread around for customers. I was really quite taken aback. I later found out from my girl the rest of the massive club is under renovation. Would be nice to see once it reopens. There were 12-15 girls. 2 were nice. The nicest one clearly had no interest in me at all looking down on her phone the entire time in roll call. Took the one I thought was the second nicest. Wanted something taller this time since all my girls all trip were 5'0" and under. Took her to the room. 360 k paid after. 160 k goes to the bar. I sure hope my girl got 200 k ad didn't only split the remaining 200 k with mamasan. Got in the room. Nice and clean. No hot water as in most of the clubs. She took off her shoes and yep, another 5'0" girl with 6-8" heels. Girl was very obedient how I like them. Basically whatever I wanted to do she took instructions well. I had a fun time with her. I'd repeat if she didn't work in a club in the sticks. I tried asking my girl and the cashier if floors 2 and 3 were open. From what I gathered they don't open til 9 pm but I may be completely wrong with that. Given there were 2 customers in the main bar area seems about right.

Now the bad part about going to KG now. There are no taxis any more. I even asked the Indomart guy and he said no taxis only Grab there. I literally waited from 6 pm to 6:48 pm before I got a taxi and that was only by luck cause a Bluebird taxi dropped someone off at the club.

New Medika. Walked in to the back room and again the club layout is completely different. Gone are all the sofas the girls used to lounge around in like at a FKK club. Instead they are jammed like sardines in a corner like they are in many of the KI clubs. I hate that takes forever to pick someone you may like. I saw a cute face in the very corner fixing her hair for 5 minutes. At the very least I knew my girl cared about how to take care of herself. Figured I went all the way out there may as well go with someone. Maybe 40 girls and 2 ok. My girl did have a cute face and a fun personality. She was a bit thicker in the middle and in her legs than I prefer. She was all giggly and happy so I couldn't throw her back. In the room she too was obedient but she just wasn't very experienced at sex. I think I ended her session well before time and hurriedly went back towards Mangga Besar. Cost something below 400 k. Oh, I think SL mentioned a 2nd floor. The sign on the door and my girl said not open.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2890086]As I am getting ready for my trip to Jakarta. I was looking at Telegram and one of the groups was some premium escort girls. Just out of curiousity I messaged them about their ST / LT prices and I was quoted an astounding 8. 5 million IDR ST /11.5 Million LT. Has anyone used this service at premiumescorts and are they really that top shelf to dole out 500 USD for 2 hours?[/QUOTE]Ah the old question of Premium Escorts versus CJ's / BAT's versus Classic. I guess it's up to the person who wants to spend the money. As you see you get blasted on here for mentioning such numbers, but that is still cheap compared to the real top tier models / actresses that the super rich in Jakarta splash their money on. But if you're willing to blast that amount of money on a girl, I would go to a top end night club and play the part, You might be a little bit disappointed at what knocks on your door when you splash cash on an escort web site.

This was the last person who bought it up, you're cheap charlie compared to him But then he got way more time in the fun house.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2865090&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2865090.

Read the replies, including mine, will all sound familiar.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890515]Phew. I'm heading there in End Feb. Or early March so this is good news.[/QUOTE]If you are planning on being their in March just be mindful that fasting will start Mid March and it likely girls will go back to their villages the week before.

Read my review again, its loud & clear.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2890508]Been at Classic twice this week but didn't actually check Classic Spa cause it says permanently closed on Google. Will check it out again tomorrow.

Anyone know the rates? IIRC starts at 600k and up to 1.2 million give or take.[/QUOTE]

Quite a few bros were interested in OTC dates with Nesya. You may be able to get sweeter sessions in longer dates.

The girls would make 100% from the dates, not half if arranged in the clubs. Nesya was happy I gave her tel to the bros.

I have tels of other Classic girls, equally beautiful, but may not be as skilled or passionate.

Any bros want to try them, let me know.

Alright fellas I'm in town and this is my first trip here. Some of you might know I live and Thailand Pattaya in fact but I wasn't coming from there I was in the States visiting family. I was looking to fly into Bangkok but for the price they wanted for a one way ticket I could fly to Jakarta book a hotel and have entertainment money so the choice was easy. Some things about the flight it was delayed so the ended up sending me to Bangkok anyway on Qatar then to Jakarta on Thai there was a moment where I thought about just staying in Bangkok but said no I want to check out this city.

Some things I noticed Immigration is quick like there was nobody but my flight going through I'm like does everybody just go to Bali. I'm only in town a few days as this is just a recon trip then going to party in Bangkok before going back to my condo in Pattaya. I notice there are a couple board members in town send me a PM or go to classic at 1700 I'll be there for a session then will be drinking I'll have on an Elorde fight camp shirt and leather Jacket if anyone is there come say Hi.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2890436]Ok, is the place still any good. Should one visit for FL hunting! How is the line up compared to CJ's / BATS.[/QUOTE]As with Menteng, it's been a long time since I've been to Tiga Kuda. 18 years in fact. It always was targeted at an arabic clientele. In turn, the freelancers there are generally interested in arabic guys. Which I suppose is good if you're arabic.

To tie in with another post and based on the word of a Saudi friend, it's probably not a bad place to find a FL more receptive to backdoor delivery.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890654]Quite a few bros were interested in OTC dates with Nesya. You may be able to get sweeter sessions in longer dates.

The girls would make 100% from the dates, not half if arranged in the clubs. Nesya was happy I gave her tel to the bros.

I have tels of other Classic girls, equally beautiful, but may not be as skilled or passionate.

Any bros want to try them, let me know.[/QUOTE]Me me me.

In town for another week.

[QUOTE=TravelingMan3;2890657]Alright fellas I'm in town and this is my first trip here. Some of you might know I live and Thailand Pattaya in fact but I wasn't coming from there I was in the States visiting family. I was looking to fly into Bangkok but for the price they wanted for a one way ticket I could fly to Jakarta book a hotel and have entertainment money so the choice was easy. Some things about the flight it was delayed so the ended up sending me to Bangkok anyway on Qatar then to Jakarta on Thai there was a moment where I thought about just staying in Bangkok but said no I want to check out this city.

Some things I noticed Immigration is quick like there was nobody but my flight going through I'm like does everybody just go to Bali. I'm only in town a few days as this is just a recon trip then going to party in Bangkok before going back to my condo in Pattaya. I notice there are a couple board members in town send me a PM or go to classic at 1700 I'll be there for a session then will be drinking I'll have on an Elorde fight camp shirt and leather Jacket if anyone is there come say Hi.[/QUOTE]I think I saw you there tonight, not too many dudes running around with a leather jacket in this heat.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890654]Quite a few bros were interested in OTC dates with Nesya. You may be able to get sweeter sessions in longer dates.

The girls would make 100% from the dates, not half if arranged in the clubs. Nesya was happy I gave her tel to the bros.

I have tels of other Classic girls, equally beautiful, but may not be as skilled or passionate.

Any bros want to try them, let me know.[/QUOTE]Thanks mate for sharing Nasya's number. I've been talking to her on and off but the schedule hasn't worked out so far. I'm leaving tomorrow. Let me see if luck works out to check out this girl.

Alright guys day one is down I'm in the hotel waiting on my breakfast so I'll write my thoughts now. So I landed at 1200 yesterday and thought I'd have to wait around for the clubs to open at 1700 like I was told. Turns out that is not correct I went to classic at about 1740 and asked when they open was told 1400. My thoughts on classic well it has pool tables a bunch of little tables and chairs and all the ladies sit around on couches. My first impression was the mamasan weren't as pushy as guys reported they act the same way as there counterparts in an empty Pattaya go go. Also there was no push for drinks as I was told the chicks don't get money if you buy her one because I was willing to to buy a drink or two so that was also misreported. The chick quality base on this ONE day I was there I'd say above Soi 6 below Queens club (my favorite Pattaya go go) but is better than some of the lower level go go certainly better than anything in Treetown soi 7&8. Not all of them of course but a good number of them.

On to the disappointment despite the fact that the chicks were attractive I was having a hard time picking why the setup is just not great a you would have to do laps around the place to see them all and I don't like that style just so cheap and thirsty looking. So I drank a couple of large beers then switch to the other side of the place. Which was good as there was some chick who they claimed was 18 no baby not that it matter to me but she was cute I picked her but they were pushing the two chicks on me I wanted to do two chicks so no problem I pick another chick and we go back to the room for the price that posted on here for two chicks.

I'd heard about BBFS but had read that if you take two then if might not happen so ok. I get to the room and there spraying disinfection spray onto the condo and napkins while I'm showering then they use these napkins on my dick again ok. They then say my dick is to big and it would be blowjob only and with a condom so that happens for a bit but I'm just like cut your losses and move on so I end the session pay my tab and leave. I don't blame the place for this but since I have limited time don't think I'll be back this trip overall I liked the club.

Since I didn't finish and it was still early in the night I decide to go to Travel hotel again mamasan weren't that pushy they'ed come over bring some chicks but a no and they were gone. Also the smoking was overblown as well sure a lot of people are smoking but it's not bad. This place setup is even worse than classic as there are only like 3 or 4 smaller sofas that the chicks sit on when you first walkin to your left. Then there is the small tables and some couches that customers sit on and bring chicks to there table. Some thoughts I did see some guys buying trays of shots but which isn't necessarily as again I asked and the chicks don't get any money for the drinks. Also the chicks sit in the back of the club and there is limited customer seating so you kinda have to walk in the back looking around. I did find a chick and took her back to the room one thing they said the price was 375 k for one chick and 500 for two not sure if I ripped off on that. In the room she was cool let me bomb away on her so I was happy. Only thing condom BJ so I just went in to fuck her as I find condom BJs to be lame.

Since my time here is limited I plan on going to Travel hotel again the claim to open at 1300 so I will see I'll be there by 1400. I do want to check out Malio club or Bats CJs but don't have time for all three. I'll be wearing blue shirt black leather jacket and black gucci shoes say Hello, if you see me.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890654]Quite a few bros were interested in OTC dates with Nesya. You may be able to get sweeter sessions in longer dates.

The girls would make 100% from the dates, not half if arranged in the clubs. Nesya was happy I gave her tel to the bros.

I have tels of other Classic girls, equally beautiful, but may not be as skilled or passionate.

Any bros want to try them, let me know.[/QUOTE]No offense, but why would anybody waste time trying to connect with one particular girl from Classic in Jakarta when there are hundreds of them available there any given night?

[QUOTE=WildInstincts;2890836]Thanks mate for sharing Nasya's number. I've been talking to her on and off but the schedule hasn't worked out so far. I'm leaving tomorrow. Let me see if luck works out to check out this girl.[/QUOTE]She works in classic spa during early afternoon hours. 600 k.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2890878]She works in classic spa during early afternoon hours. 600 k.[/QUOTE]Guys there are literally thousands of girls in the Jakarta brothels. Whats this obsession with one? Just go and find your own favorite instead of depending on someone else's experience. This Nesya is not the only cute girl that provides good service. I guarantee it.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2890878]She works in classic spa during early afternoon hours. 600 k.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm aware of that. Just that I prefer having a girl over at my hotel and not having to rush over the services at Classic.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890910]Guys there are literally thousands of girls in the Jakarta brothels. Whats this obsession with one? Just go and find your own favorite instead of depending on someone else's experience. This Nesya is not the only cute girl that provides good service. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]True. Since she was recommended by a forum member, I gave her a try but that didn't stop me from exploring others. I agree with you, there are many fishes in the sea.

Hundreds girls work in 2 Classic Clubs every night. The bros should hang out, buy them drinks, party with them, feel them up, figure them out, try them in bed. But realistically we don't stay in Jakarta long enough and have enough time to sort through 100's girls in the clubs and in bed.

Nesya is a good find as she is new to the business, still nice, gentle, fresh, tender, unabashed in showing lots of good feelings and sexy, joyful expressions, besides her unique sexual techniques, unlike others. She was so sexy, acted so horny, gave me an exceptional GFE like no others, probably had a better time than I in bed hehe. She also agreed to OTC dates. Some bros may have sweet times with her in and out of bed. Mention Keptan Solo so at least she knows you are not some random criminal on the streets.

Medan is another beautiful, lively, flirty spinner, cruises Classic 1 in her frilly beige top and dark skirt. I invited her to a dark corner, bought her a Soju for 125 K, kissed her mouth, groped her crotch, squeezed her boobs to confirm her assets are natural, and she would DFK and put up with lots of rubbing, squeezing in bed. She's popular with big spenders, another hot girl to party with the the club and take to the bed. I also gave her tel to a few bros.

Without lots of time on locations, I usually narrow down my list of prospects with recommendations by the bros and go from there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2890961]Hundreds girls work in 2 Classic Clubs every night. The bros should hang out, buy them drinks, party with them, feel them up, figure them out, try them in bed. But realistically we don't stay in Jakarta long enough and have enough time to sort through 100's girls in the clubs and in bed.

Nesya is a good find as she is new to the business, still nice, gentle, fresh, tender, unabashed in showing lots of good feelings and sexy, joyful expressions, besides her unique sexual techniques, unlike others. She was so sexy, acted so horny, gave me an exceptional GFE like no others, probably had a better time than I in bed hehe. She also agreed to OTC dates. Some bros may have sweet times with her in and out of bed. Mention Keptan Solo so at least she knows you are not some random criminal on the streets.

Medan is another beautiful, lively, flirty spinner, cruises Classic 1 in her frilly beige top and dark skirt. I invited her to a dark corner, bought her a Soju for 125 K, kissed her mouth, groped her crotch, squeezed her boobs to confirm her assets are natural, and she would DFK and put up with lots of rubbing, squeezing in bed. She's popular with big spenders, another hot girl to party with the the club and take to the bed. I also gave her tel to a few bros.

Without lots of time on locations, I usually narrow down my list of prospects with recommendations by the bros and go from there.[/QUOTE]You should share their contacts to all the bros here.

I am not allowed to post tel numbers or email publicly in the forum. The mods want guys to subscribe and use PMs.

I did share the girls' contacts via PMs with the bros whom I feel will treat the girls fairly.

I happened to visit Jakarta during Ramadan last year. This year it'll be again during March and April.

I expected it to be a wasteland for Pay4 Play, due to girls visiting family and fasting till nightfall. And truth to be told: officially Travel and Classic were closed, I. E. The girls section.

But under cover they're still operating. I politely asked a guard (using Google translate), and he pointed me to the regular hotel entry. Basically there is a back entrance to the girls section, while the outward looking "public" entrance is closed. Opening time was around 4 pm, but with only about half the number of girls compared to non-Ramadan visits.

Lokasari on the other hand was not affected at all.

I can't comment on clubs / bars in central and southern Jakarta, but I imagine that there is a similar setup (outwardly closed, but covertly open).

As for individual girls: there must be 400-600 in Classic and Travel combined. And thousands in Jakarta. If you want delivery to your accommodation (provided it is North of the National Monument): get the whatsapp of the Mamasans at Lokasari and they'll send you photos of girls, that you can do for 400-450 BBFS CIP. Or take the numbers directly from the Lokasari girls. I have a range of stunners on call originally from that source. Unlike Travel or Classic those generally can meet you anytime at your hotel.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890910]Guys there are literally thousands of girls in the Jakarta brothels. Whats this obsession with one? Just go and find your own favorite instead of depending on someone else's experience. This Nesya is not the only cute girl that provides good service. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]No worries here bro. I met her before she was ever mentioned on this forum.

Just sharing some intel.

I actually find it kinda funny dudes seem to be lining up for this 1 chick.

But I understand why, dudes want guaranteed BB and CIP with a very motivated provider.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2890910]Guys there are literally thousands of girls in the Jakarta brothels. Whats this obsession with one? Just go and find your own favorite instead of depending on someone else's experience. This Nesya is not the only cute girl that provides good service. I guarantee it.[/QUOTE]To me, it's rather idiotic to try to track down one girl in a place full of hundreds based on what someone else said about her. Jaysus. Just go find your own, people.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2891063]I happened to visit Jakarta during Ramadan last year. This year it'll be again during March and April.

I expected it to be a wasteland for Pay4 Play, due to girls visiting family and fasting till nightfall. And truth to be told: officially Travel and Classic were closed, I. E. The girls section.

But under cover they're still operating. I politely asked a guard (using Google translate), and he pointed me to the regular hotel entry. Basically there is a back entrance to the girls section, while the outward looking "public" entrance is closed. Opening time was around 4 pm, but with only about half the number of girls compared to non-Ramadan visits.

Lokasari on the other hand was not affected at all.

I can't comment on clubs / bars in central and southern Jakarta, but I imagine that there is a similar setup (outwardly closed, but covertly open).

As for individual girls: there must be 400-600 in Classic and Travel combined. And thousands in Jakarta. If you want delivery to your accommodation (provided it is North of the National Monument): get the whatsapp of the Mamasans at Lokasari and they'll send you photos of girls, that you can do for 400-450 BBFS CIP. Or take the numbers directly from the Lokasari girls. I have a range of stunners on call originally from that source. Unlike Travel or Classic those generally can meet you anytime at your hotel.[/QUOTE]More solid intel, thanks mate. Looking forward to developing a Lokasari list of my own when I show there in a few months. Still trying to decide between hotel or AirBnB.

On this day I kinda wanted to be all day and so I started early went to travel as I was told it opens at 1300 well it was open but not really maybe twenty chicks and most of the lights not even on. So I got some food had a few drinks and went to Starmoon bar at about 1630 it opened at 1600 and again it was dead I guess these places take a while to get going. This bar barely had any chicks around. The one positive of the place was that I ran into an American dude who recognized me by my leather jacket and we would end up bar hoping the rest of the night. We had made a plan to go to Malio club but it doesn't open until 1900 and it was only 1730 but we got bored of starmoon so we went to classic. Classic was non eventful for me as I was only going to drink there after my lame session in the room the first night. My buddy did have a session here and said it was good so there that ended up meeting another American and we all went to Malio.

My first impression of Malio was that it is very nice looking chicks here certainly better than the ones at the other three places I'd been. I'd compare them to some of the better Pattaya go gos in terms of quality. But the main reason I wanted to come here was the fact that I heard there were Russian chicks so I asked about them and they said no Russians but chicks from Uzbekistan it was surprising they admitted this as mostly the try to past off any Eastern European as Russian. The one negative was that the Uzbeks weren't going to show up until midnight. I bought a few lady drinks for a couple of chicks one was slim with a nice ass the other just slim. In the end I got tired and didn't feel like waiting so just went back to the hotel as I had a flight to Bangkok where I am now the next morning.

Boys,

Been a few years since a tour of JTown and stuck in Oz with the summer heat decided to ditch my trip to the Goldy. Cyclones and all. And hit Indo for a few days.

Onto the net. Seeking - and profiled for a young chubby, key word, 'sub'. Goodness, 8 replies first day, 13 within 2 days! Narrowed the field and sexted regular with a beauty ready to go. 26 years old, big tits, bit of belly, firm thighs and the cutest baby face, small tight mouth. Barring up as I write! She would come in from out of town. Gawd, love a country girl!

Qantas points and a cheap 5 star hotel. JTown pubs under half price of the Oz variety. Chose one with a big pool where we picked up random fucks 10 year ago or more.

Guys, she came to the lobby and we were all over each other in the lift and corridor. 15 minutes in the room and I was emptying my swollen ball sacs into that gorgeous mouth and she was swallowing every drop with relish. "Jadilah tuan aku" "Be my master" Yes, hunny, with bells on! Other favourite expressions of hers over the cuming days were, "Boleh saja" "Of course you can" and "Apakah saja Tuan berminat" "Whatever Master needs". Near fell in love!

Over 4 days she never said no to anything! Anything. I fair dinks fucked my fucken balls off. Such a very, very long time since that has been the case.

Been back in Oz more than a week now, getting out the diary and planning a return. Seeking. Excellent!

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2891063]

As for individual girls: there must be 400-600 in Classic and Travel combined. And thousands in Jakarta. If you want delivery to your accommodation (provided it is North of the National Monument): get the whatsapp of the Mamasans at Lokasari and they'll send you photos of girls, that you can do for 400-450 BBFS CIP. Or take the numbers directly from the Lokasari girls. I have a range of stunners on call originally from that source. Unlike Travel or Classic those generally can meet you anytime at your hotel.[/QUOTE]Stunners from lokasari? LOL That's a good one. These days you will find a few ugly drug addicts who have never been checked in their life promoted by greedy mamasans. Lokasari is a shade of what it was in the past. Fuck these girls BB and you get STD guaranteed. I know from a reliable source a guy who got syphilis there. People should stick to Classic and Travel and look for girls with good service themselves instead of getting lazy and all fucking the same girl because they want everything delivered on a platter.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2891457]Stunners from lokasari? LOL That's a good one. These days you will find a few ugly drug addicts who have never been checked in their life promoted by greedy mamasans. Lokasari is a shade of what it was in the past. Fuck these girls BB and you get STD guaranteed. I know from a reliable source a guy who got syphilis there. People should stick to Classic and Travel and look for girls with good service themselves instead of getting lazy and all fucking the same girl because they want everything delivered on a platter.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about the same area or you're not confusing mamasans with a girl? I was there late last year; if the mods allow it I'm willing to provide proof. Sure some girls look trashy; but on average they're younger than in Travel / Classic and given that BBFS / CIP is included it's a fair deal price-wise. I would wager that they're more prone to STD, simply because they don't normally use condoms. Assuming most customers don't negotiate (and pay extra) for BBFS in Travel / Classic. Therefore I'll do some preparation that I posted 2 pages ago (hint: as a guy you only need to worry about HIV, everything else is a round of antibiotics).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend a dedicated visit to Lokasari, if you're not staying for more than a week and don't want to bring a girl to your place. But if you're going to Travel anyway, you can as well start at Lokasari (ideally 18:00-21:00) and move on to Travel (7 minutes on foot) if you don't find anything you like. Particularly during Ramadan, as you got less choice at Travel / Classic.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2891574]Are we talking about the same area or you're not confusing mamasans with a girl? I was there late last year; if the mods allow it I'm willing to provide proof. Sure some girls look trashy; but on average they're younger than in Travel / Classic and given that BBFS / CIP is included it's a fair deal price-wise. I would wager that they're more prone to STD, simply because they don't normally use condoms. Assuming most customers don't negotiate (and pay extra) for BBFS in Travel / Classic. Therefore I'll do some preparation that I posted 2 pages ago (hint: as a guy you only need to worry about HIV, everything else is a round of antibiotics).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend a dedicated visit to Lokasari, if you're not staying for more than a week and don't want to bring a girl to your place. But if you're going to Travel anyway, you can as well start at Lokasari (ideally 18:00-21:00) and move on to Travel (7 minutes on foot) if you don't find anything you like. Particularly during Ramadan, as you got less choice at Travel / Classic.[/QUOTE]You want to play with fire your choice not mine and beware of setups too.

[QUOTE=WazWallaby;2891395]Boys,

Been a few years since a tour of JTown and stuck in Oz with the summer heat decided to ditch my trip to the Goldy. Cyclones and all. And hit Indo for a few days.

Onto the net. Seeking - and profiled for a young chubby, key word, 'sub'. Goodness, 8 replies first day, 13 within 2 days! Narrowed the field and sexted regular with a beauty ready to go. 26 years old, big tits, bit of belly, firm thighs and the cutest baby face, small tight mouth. Barring up as I write! She would come in from out of town. Gawd, love a country girl!

Qantas points and a cheap 5 star hotel. JTown pubs under half price of the Oz variety. Chose one with a big pool where we picked up random fucks 10 year ago or more.

Guys, she came to the lobby and we were all over each other in the lift and corridor. 15 minutes in the room and I was emptying my swollen ball sacs into that gorgeous mouth and she was swallowing every drop with relish. "Jadilah tuan aku" "Be my master" Yes, hunny, with bells on! Other favourite expressions of hers over the cuming days were, "Boleh saja" "Of course you can" and "Apakah saja Tuan berminat" "Whatever Master needs". Near fell in love!

Over 4 days she never said no to anything! Anything. I fair dinks fucked my fucken balls off. Such a very, very long time since that has been the case.

Been back in Oz more than a week now, getting out the diary and planning a return. Seeking. Excellent![/QUOTE]Great post. Did you know there is a Seeking forum? The lads there always love to exchange stories and info. You should post there. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements[/URL].

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2891574]Are we talking about the same area or you're not confusing mamasans with a girl? I was there late last year; if the mods allow it I'm willing to provide proof. Sure some girls look trashy; but on average they're younger than in Travel / Classic and given that BBFS / CIP is included it's a fair deal price-wise. I would wager that they're more prone to STD, simply because they don't normally use condoms. Assuming most customers don't negotiate (and pay extra) for BBFS in Travel / Classic. Therefore I'll do some preparation that I posted 2 pages ago (hint: as a guy you only need to worry about HIV, everything else is a round of antibiotics).

I wouldn't necessarily recommend a dedicated visit to Lokasari, if you're not staying for more than a week and don't want to bring a girl to your place. But if you're going to Travel anyway, you can as well start at Lokasari (ideally 18:00-21:00) and move on to Travel (7 minutes on foot) if you don't find anything you like. Particularly during Ramadan, as you got less choice at Travel / Classic.[/QUOTE]What you said. Spot on, brother. I believe that bloke is indeed confused. I'll be in Jakarta for at least a month, hoping for two. That and classic with a side trip or two to Blok M will be my hunting grounds.

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Just warning others. At T2 airport after you exit the baggage area there is a row where there used to be a lot of ATMs but only 1 remains.

Someone has done something to it so it gives a msg that money isn't available but it still deducts it from your account.

Can anyone on the ground confirm if the spa at classic is closed for good or just temporarily. Bummed as I was looking at killing some time there during the day. Are there similar options elsewhere?

[QUOTE=YngMong;2892244]Can anyone on the ground confirm if the spa at classic is closed for good or just temporarily. Bummed as I was looking at killing some time there during the day. Are there similar options elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Answered on the[URL=http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2890481#post2890481] forum here (link)[/URL] 7 days ago. Google Maps is not correct.

[QUOTE=BigAuMan;2892015]Just warning others. At T2 airport after you exit the baggage area there is a row where there used to be a lot of ATMs but only 1 remains.

Someone has done something to it so it gives a msg that money isn't available but it still deducts it from your account.[/QUOTE]Fuck same happened to me.

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[QUOTE=YngMong;2892244]Can anyone on the ground confirm if the spa at classic is closed for good or just temporarily. Bummed as I was looking at killing some time there during the day. Are there similar options elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Its open. There are plenty of other options regardless.
malio, emporium, suncity, sugar, etc etc

The issue of content moderation is a challenging one. Facebook, Twitter, and all social media sites struggle mightily this this topic. What is truth for one individual is outright lies and trolling to another.

Lokasari has HOT ladies!

No it doesn't, they are all drug addicted, fat, 80 year olds with STDs!

There is no way for a message board moderator on a site this large to objectively moderate this discussion as everyone's opinion will vary based on their personal preferences, experiences, motivations, etc.

Here are my personal observations on this. Where I think this board tries to balance the line is this:

Differ with the opinions and counter then.

Not the individuals. Don't attack the individual.

I don't recall the specifics of both posts that were removed, but I believe one post may have used another poster's history to bolster their argument that the information was inaccurate and then questioned their motivations for posting. I think that is what may have contributed to the removal and been considered "over the line. " (just my person opinion and observation. I have no affiliation with the board other than being a member.) I don't recall the other post.

A possible alternative approach to differing opinions about a location would be to leave the individual out of it and counter with how their own direct experiences differ from that of the other and why.

Not everyone is going to agree about how good, bad, pretty, ugly, etc ladies or a destination are going to be. It's impossible to gain consensus on this. One person will go to Jakarta and love it. Another will go, get scammed, not speak the language, get stuck in traffic, be disgusted by the infrastructure, have a string of poor experiences with the ladies, etc and hate it.

I can't believe I am going to quote Antonin Scalia on anything, but I believe his quote was something along the lines of, "attack the idea, not the individual."

I don't have a horse in this race either way other than wanting to see continued valuable contributions to one of my favorite destinations. So I offer this as my observation and opinion only.

Supposedly there are twins available at classic.

Bucket list item for anybody interested.

I passed. They weren't cute enough IMO.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2892294]Mzungu posts random criticisms of others detailed and useful reports. I point out that he never seems to add any actual information himself. Gaijin agrees with me and both our posts are deleted. Meanwhile Mzungu's nonsense remains on the board. If this continues nobody will post anything useful on here anymore as trolls can attack with no repercussions while those calling the trolls out are silenced. Moderation should be limited to actual offensive content against the policy of the board. I don't see how my posts violated any actual policy. The definition of "pointless" is very subjective. There are a lot of tangential discussions happening all the time. I hope the mods take this seriously if you don't want actual experienced mongers and contributors to leave.[/QUOTE]"Moderation" seems to have become completely random at this point. I never said anything that should have been perceived as argumentative, yet here we are. I simply agreed with someone else that Mzugu does nothing on here but criticize and troll. But has he ever received a smackdown? Not that I am aware. I've been an active member of this forum for more than a decade but I certainly don't have to keep contributing valuable intel if the moderators that be don't appreciate it.

Popped over to Lokasari yesterday evening. Liked the look of one and asked to see her KTP. She whipped it out of her purse with the smoothness of a seasoned FBI agent. We checked in at FF Hotel. It was downright the filthiest room I've ever seen. That includes the now demolished railway tracks. Unwashed linen, a blood stained pillow and one towel. There was so much bacteria in that room it made the ones living in her vagina smug with the relatively low population density.

Deed done. An experience nonetheless.

[QUOTE=KopiHitam;2892595]Popped over to Lokasari yesterday evening. Liked the look of one and asked to see her KTP. She whipped it out of her purse with the smoothness of a seasoned FBI agent. We checked in at FF Hotel. It was downright the filthiest room I've ever seen. That includes the now demolished railway tracks. Unwashed linen, a blood stained pillow and one towel. There was so much bacteria in that room it made the ones living in her vagina smug with the relatively low population density.

Deed done. An experience nonetheless.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with you.

Jakarta is a city of few charms, and with little reason to visit other than the mongering. This is a little harsh and I'm sure there are many other cities worldwide in similar categories but I'm comparing with the likes of other cities I've visited in the region: the traffic is dreadful, there's little character, generic restaurants, bars etc.

Anyhow on the matter of mongering: I reported my "interesting" experience of tinder in an earlier report. To wrap things up I got an order in off Locanto which was a serious frustration- she bore no resemblance whatsoever to her photo- complete fake- even though I had asked if it was real and they had verified. I was clearly talking to an agent. Felt a little sorry for the lady herself who showed up but I was very annoyed at having been deceived. I think most of the ad's there are fake.

In the middle of my journey I tried Classic several times and Travel once. The latter was a let down on the night I was there, or I caved in too soon to the first number of girls the mamasan showed me. None of the girls were attractive and the one I chose was not a good performer.

Classic was a real hit and miss. On the first few occasions it was good but the last couple were as disappointing as Travel. There is a bar downstairs was better but I was put off by the seemingly random pricing by the mamasan ("600 k plus 200 k tips") so didn't explore further.

I tried Starmoon at 300 k and got nothing memorable but what do you expect at that price. There were a couple of spas here including sugar spa which I tried but once again I found the girls not very attractive. Either I have too high standards or I have been just unlucky with timings.

Running out of time I had choice of a couple of Tinder dates, who seemed appealing or the abovementioned Locanto who pressured me into opting for her- which is why I was so annoyed at the deception. Perhaps the Tinder ones would have been a great result. I won't know unless I go back.

One thing is for sure, there is a hell of a great breadth of choice in Jakarta. I barely scratched the surface. If returning I would probably focus more on the Tinder girls and on Classic at around 7 pm or so when the choice is better. I would also explore the likes of Malio where I didn't get a chance.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2891574]

I wouldn't necessarily recommend a dedicated visit to Lokasari, if you're not staying for more than a week and don't want to bring a girl to your place. But if you're going to Travel anyway, you can as well start at Lokasari (ideally 18:00-21:00) and move on to Travel (7 minutes on foot) if you don't find anything you like. Particularly during Ramadan, as you got less choice at Travel / Classic.[/QUOTE]Lokasari is a sort of mall. The old famous places like this western style disco, are closed since long. Other places there are KTV's. So --where exactly you pick up girls there? On the parking lot?

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2892638]

One thing is for sure, there is a hell of a great breadth of choice in Jakarta. I barely scratched the surface. If returning I would probably focus more on the Tinder girls and on Classic at around 7 pm or so when the choice is better. I would also explore the likes of Malio where I didn't get a chance.[/QUOTE]Purely from a mongering perspective did you enjoy Bali better? I'm still unsure if I will get bored in Jakarta and better off in Bali as there seems a bit more to do during the day. If your mongering experiences in Bali were better I see little reason to stay in Jakarta more than a day or two.

[QUOTE=YngMong;2892666]Purely from a mongering perspective did you enjoy Bali better? I'm still unsure if I will get bored in Jakarta and better off in Bali as there seems a bit more to do during the day. If your mongering experiences in Bali were better I see little reason to stay in Jakarta more than a day or two.[/QUOTE]Tbh my horniness took a huge nosedive in Bali, don't know if it was the heat, other things to do or just hormones, so I didn't explore as much as I could have. But all things considered, the options were significantly less in Bali, and require more investment of time, but there is potentially better quality, some seriously good, if you're willing to spend more, or a lot more. Most of these will be on tinder or badoo or Instagram.

A couple of days in Jakarta is enough to tick it off I reckon.

I've got 4 weeks off and I've been planning a SE Asia tour of a few cities. Tokyo, Bangkok, and maybe Pattaya (have to pay my respects to the Mecca) are on the list. After going back 50 pages, RTFF and taking copious notes, Jakarta is sounding like a wonderful place.

However, the dates of my vacation line up nearly perfectly with Ramadan this year. I've found a few posts and mentions but now I'm worried I won't get the full experience. I went to Thailand once before and it was late Feb into March 2020. Remember that fun slice of time? The streets and clubs were pretty empty and I stayed away from crowds too. So here I am 3 years later and worried I'll have a repeat but for different reasons.

In any case, no real question. Just bitching. I'll probably still go and see the sights. LOL.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2892648]Lokasari is a sort of mall. The old famous places like this western style disco, are closed since long. Other places there are KTV's. So --where exactly you pick up girls there? On the parking lot?[/QUOTE]The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2892873]The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.[/QUOTE]Are you willing to share some photos so we all can get an idea of what these chicks look like?

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2892873]The girls / mamasan are generally anywhere between Hotel Prinsen Park (at the big gate structure coming from the main road) and the KFC at some kind of underpass.

Time: mostly between 18:00 and 21:00.

Service: BBFS, unless you bring your own condoms; try to bring lubrication to make it more enjoyable for everyone.

Price: 400-450 to the mamasan + about 200 for a hotel room.

If a girl looks suspiciously young just ask for her age or ID, as a previous commenter did. The best way to manage the scene:

Get Whatsapp numbers of the mamasans and they will deliver any girl to your hotel or AirBnB; use Google Translate to talk to anyone. Pay the mamasan in advance at arrival, or she will insist on joining you. Even better: ask the girls for their Whatsapp numbers and meet them directly (for 400) and let them introduce their own friends and girls. Avoids the pesky mamasans and helps the girls.

This strategy works best if you have more than a week to spend. In 2022 I spend a week at Lokasari at Olympic Hotel to have easy access, bring girls to my room (instead of some shithole) and collect numbers. The remaining 2 weeks I got a good AirBnB at Pasar Baru and were meeting the girls directly there (arranged via Whatsapp). Later in 2022 and 2023 my previous girls introduced "friends"cousins"sister" when I was back in Jakarta and asked them to. A steady supply if you want to meet young girls directly at your hotel, for a 400 BBFS session.[/QUOTE]Again, exactly the scene I'm looking for. You mentioned previously the girls are online, either IG or other apps, I believe. How do you find them on there? Or do you just have to ask one and she'll give you others?

Hello.

So, 400ST.

How much about overnight?

Thanks.

Jakarta is a shithole with not much to do besides popping girls. Bali has more touristy things, but girls selection is lacking.

In Jakarta you have hundreds girls to choose from in the clubs every night. Bali would have a few skanks on Kuta beach at night; a few massage parlors nearby charging as much as $100-150 for FS. Sanur has half dozen brothels each with 2 to 3 very poor-looking women working. Pimps can bring in more available girls, but they are still very poor-looking, tiny and skinny like undernourished kids.

I had a beautiful time with a girl from Java, staying with her at the Hotel Shanti Beach in Sanur, carrying her around on a $5 a day rental motor bike all over the island. She was dark skin, a sweet but shy and timid in bed, a very poor Muslim girl, wearing threadbare clothes. I took her to fancy shops all over Sanur, buying her new clothes, new shoes. Shop keepers were all smiling and she was grateful. Did not have enough time to do much touristy things with her, just trying to fill her most immediate needs, really felt sad for her humble backgrounds and poor circumstances.

Also picked up a young single mother in Sanur near Denpasar, rode around Bali with her on the motor bike, eating, drinking, beaching, had wild passionate BB sex in the hotel. A Muslim, she did not drink alcohol or eat pork, so we had to avoid those places. If you find any attractive girls in public places, don't be shy to try to make friends. Balinese are very friendly and gracious. Traffic around the island, Denpasar, Sanur, Ubud was very heavy with tour buses, vans, taxis, motor bikes right before Covid, ridiculous. Go to Lompoc for a real relaxing vacation with real Indonesians in authentic Indonesia, not only beach salesmen.

Went to a temple near Denpasar on a weekday where hundreds people young and old were dancing in their religious event with dozens trays of flower, food and fruits offerings to their Gods. They welcomed me into the temple to mingle and take pics, very gentle and gracious people. Man, some of those young Balinese girls looked absolutely hot, sexy, attractive, exotic in Balinese festive costumes. Of course girls were glancing discreetly at guys in between staring at the altar mumbling chants hehe. That was a very unique experience, so look for those events.

The dance clubs in Denpasar have some very beautiful half Chinese girls who wanted a lot of money. Those stupid clubs are very dark with ear-splitting sound level and a few girls dancing on stage to tout people to dance, ridiculous and boring.

Vendors and artists on the road along Sanur Beach were offering to take me to meet girls in the neighborhood. Some of those offers were risky, so be careful. You may be set up for a sting or beatup and robbed in the alleys, may be. Be careful.

You should stay for 4 to 5 days in Jakarta or Yogyakarta to search for beautiful girls to go with you for a vacation in Bali or better yet, Lombok. A lot of girls would be happy to go for a week or two, just the matter of how much money you can agree with them. That way you can have the best of both world. Fly into Denpasar, spend a few days in both Bali and Lombok which has much fewer tourists, remains authentic Indonesian and is my preferred vacation spot in Indonesia. Cruise around the islands, hang out on beaches, snorkel, dive, fish, party, temples, volcano, rice, cocoa, coffee farms, silk shops, artists village, fancy restaurants, dance clubs ect. Man, you would have such a beautiful time in a nice, clean, quiet, romantic island with a hot girl by your side. The prospect of such a fun sexy vacation got me all excited, want to pack my back this week and go with beautiful, gentle and sexy girls like Nesya or Medan, spend a whole week with them on the islands.

In Bali or Lombok You can still go out and search for more local girls while your date sleeps late. If you find hotter girls with better deals, just buy your date a $50 airfare on shaky Air Garuda and send her back to Jakarta. She would be happy.

[QUOTE=MarcusBus;2893020]Hello.

So, 400ST.

How much about overnight?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]FutureGuy mentioned previously that these girls are not available for overnight. They're mostly students or of student age and do this to supplement their income. They're not pros and need to go back home after the deed is done.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2893094]Jakarta is a shithole with not much to do besides popping girls. Bali has more touristy things, but girls selection is lacking.

In Jakarta you have hundreds girls to choose from in the clubs every night. Bali would have a few skanks on Kuta beach at night; a few massage parlors nearby charging as much as $100-150 for FS. Sanur has half dozen brothels each with 2 to 3 very poor-looking women working. Pimps can bring in more available girls, but they are still very poor-looking, tiny and skinny like undernourished kids.

I had a beautiful time with a girl from Java, staying with her at the Hotel Shanti Beach in Sanur, carrying her around on a $5 a day rental motor bike all over the island. She was dark skin, a sweet but shy and timid in bed, a very poor Muslim girl, wearing threadbare clothes. I took her to fancy shops all over Sanur, buying her new clothes, new shoes. Shop keepers were all smiling and she was grateful. Did not have enough time to do much touristy things with her, just trying to fill her most immediate needs, really felt sad for her humble backgrounds and poor circumstances..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion on Lombok. Is there a mongering scene there as well or would I need to bring my own cewek?

I was staying at a hotel on Kuta Beach with bungalows scattered in a huge green garden, dense with lots of trees, shrubs and vegetation of all kinds. Open the door in the morning, a long green snake was sun tanning on the door step, got me creeped out and pissed off. Called reception. They sent a guy with a shovel, sliced it in half and carried it away. Make me wonder if there were more snakes slithering inside the bungalow. Damn.

In Sanur, I stayed at the Villa Shanti Beach, again with bungalows scattered in a green garden in a beautiful leafy area with nice, clean beach front, just North of the Hyatt. Room was nice, clean, mattress firm, sheets and towels bright white, smelling fresh. I went around knocking on furniture and cabinets to chase out any potential snakes. Bali, being warm and wet, has lots of snakes. Made wild love with a couple girls on that bed. Had good buffet breakfast with my dates in an open air dining room on the beach, very romantic.

Met a dozen Swiss women doing a convention. They said that hotel was the nicest and the best deal in Sanur. They return to it every year for winter vacation. A few women hired dark, skinny guys for the night, taking them to breakfast like real couples. Guys were so shy being exposed to the public.

Near Villa Shanti a huge government-owned hotel resort complex had gone into disrepairs, moldy walls outside, paint peeling inside, very few guests.

Would definitely have a beautiful, romantic and sexy vacation in Bali / Lombok with hot girls from Jakarta. Should be able to make arrangement over the phone with Google translate with girls I met. Would have to fly in to Jakarta to make sure they will fly out with me and not flake on their vacation.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2893094]

You should stay for 4 to 5 days in Jakarta or Yogyakarta to search for beautiful girls to go with you for a vacation in Bali or better yet, Lombok. A lot of girls would be happy to go for a week or two, just the matter of how much money you can agree with them. That way you can have the best of both world. Fly into Denpasar, spend a few days in both Bali and Lombok which has much fewer tourists, remains authentic Indonesian and is my preferred vacation spot in Indonesia. Cruise around the islands, hang out on beaches, snorkel, dive, fish, party, temples, volcano, rice, cocoa, coffee farms, silk shops, artists village, fancy restaurants, dance clubs ect. Man, you would have such a beautiful time in a nice, clean, quiet, romantic island with a hot girl by your side. The prospect of such a fun sexy vacation got me all excited, want to pack my back this week and go with beautiful, gentle and sexy girls like Nesya or Medan, spend a whole week with them on the islands.

In Bali or Lombok You can still go out and search for more local girls while your date sleeps late. If you find hotter girls with better deals, just buy your date a $50 airfare on shaky Air Garuda and send her back to Jakarta. She would be happy.[/QUOTE]Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2893190]Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.[/QUOTE]Yea then what happens if she takes her period the full week you are with her in Bali? That's a disaster. Best just to go with flow.

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2893190]Could even do a bit of pre-trip work on on-line dating apps. Set up meetings in Jakarta with a promise of a trip to Bali if you click. And I'd be very surprised if you don't find a cutie to fill your days.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2893094]I had a beautiful time with a girl from Java, staying with her at the Hotel Shanti Beach in Sanur, carrying her around on a $5 a day rental motor bike all over the island. She was dark skin, a sweet but shy and timid in bed, a very poor Muslim girl, wearing threadbare clothes....

Also picked up a young single mother in Sanur near Denpasar, rode around Bali with her on the motor bike, eating, drinking, beaching, had wild passionate BB sex in the hotel. A Muslim, she did not drink alcohol or eat pork, so we had to avoid those places. If you find any attractive girls in public places, don't be shy to try to make friends...[/QUOTE]Importing a Jakarta / Surabaya / Jogja girl into Bali is definitely to be recommended. It takes a bit to set it up and select the right girl but the pay off is definitely worth it.

However, I wouldn't recommend going online and promising a holiday straight away. It's likely the girl (s) will be on their best behaviour to secure the prize, then their behaviour may fall off once they are difficult to return home. Much better to stay quiet at first, find someone you click with, then offer a week (end) away once you know how she behaves normally. Unless she has a job that she can't get away from, 99% of girls will jump at the opportunity.

Balinese girls are definitely gorgeous. If you are a big susu guy, remember the further north you go, the bigger they get. While the girls can be pleasant and outgoing, it should be remembered that true Balinese girls have the eyes of a million friends and family watching them so they are very unlikely to quickly jump into bed with the any passing stranger. Especially one 40 years her senior. She knows that word will get back to everyone immediately and her reputation will be scared for life.

Girls that have moved to Bali for work or study, however, are totally different. They are far more likely to be more accepting of some fun times. I'm guessing this is actually what Solo's girls were. Remember that not all girls in Bali are Balinese. Much better to target a girl who has come from elsewhere and won't be missed for a few days.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2885723]Travel.

1001 colosseum.

I was excited about this place another punter also recommended, high end with entry charge of 200 k with a drink. Saw about 60-70 girls sitting at a distance. Very beautiful with many stunners. Lady mamasan was pretty and helpful, spoke clean english and has always helped me in my selection. Price here is around 1. 4 mn, but before that saw the international selection. They are seated in a private area and are called downstairs. I was blown away by the quality. Drop dead gorgeous. About 15-17 of them each better than the other. Only 10's. Viet thai russian kazak, great bodies sharp features and stunning face. Price 3. 3 mn. Nice rooms, luxurious and one could spend the night over. I've had 3 locals and 1 international by now. Very happy and satisfying. Enjoy 30 minutes in the cabana next to the pool followed by 60 in the room. Sadly you can't take them to the pool, its only for punters. My rating A+.

Emporium.

Same setup as 1001 but on a smaller scale, entry 200 k. Choices are less but still very good. Took a beauty and went to spa with her. I took steam and sauna while she changed, when I came out she was in her robe. Took it off and she's in her bikini, oh my god. Great shape great contours, we step inside the pool. It was heavenly, just magical, 30 minutes passed by like a breeze off to the room for 60 minutes. Great service. I've done 3 girls by now, rooms are very nice try to take the suite. Excellent setup. My rating A+.[/QUOTE]Were you able to get BB in those spas?

1001, definitely no.

Travel. No way, girls denied BBBJ so BB was a long shot.

Emporium, I got anal and unbelievably very good service. I am not into BB but my gut feel, if I has asked I would have got it. Again as I said I didn't ask as I was not interested.

Classic, definitely possible. Again I got excellent service in room and if I had asked, yes.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2893238]Were you able to get BB in those spas?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigAuMan;2892015]Just warning others. At T2 airport after you exit the baggage area there is a row where there used to be a lot of ATMs but only 1 remains.

Someone has done something to it so it gives a msg that money isn't available but it still deducts it from your account.[/QUOTE]I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2890523]
Now the bad part about going to KG now. There are no taxis any more. I even asked the Indomart guy and he said no taxis only Grab there. I literally waited from 6 pm to 6:48 pm before I got a taxi and that was only by luck cause a Bluebird taxi dropped someone off at the club.
[/QUOTE]When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.

Unless this is a new modification on certain banks' ATMs, there should be two options on any given ATM to choose from before you withdraw your cash.

That is:

"accept with currency conversion" - This usually has the BS fees the ATM owner charges. It is just 100% pure profit for the bank. It is called DCC, Dynamic Currency Conversion and you are essentially giving the ATM owner permission to convert the currency for you, for a fee.

"accept without currency conversion" - This should be closer to the spot exchange rate and your home bank will do the conversion for you when it processes the transaction. It will still usually be less than the spot exchange rates you see on XE, etc. But much better than using the ATM owner's DCC.

Interesting if BCA has somehow removed this option. I typically use CIMB Niaga. In December, they still had the option to decline the bank's DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion). And at CIMB Niaga, you can typically withdraw 3 million.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893447]I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.[/QUOTE]

Interestingly enough, when I was there in December, there were Bluebirds right outside of KC on the other side of the street from the parking gate. About 3 or 4 of them right in front of the make shift food tents. This was the first time I ever recall seeing Bluebirds in many years there. What I have done for the past few years though is just order a ride through GoJek or Grab and sit on the couch in the KC lobby and monitor their arrival after I settle up my bill. Usually takes a few minutes, but I can relax in comfort while I wait for them to arrive and walk out to the street when they get close. This was much later in the evening though than in the original report. IndoMaret was already closed and it was like 11 or closer to midnight as I recall.

Before GoJek and Grab were widespread, I often took the long walk up to the main road and would wait for a Bluebird to drive by. I often waited quite a while. But I would never use any non Bluebird taxi in Jakarta.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893449]When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2888081]This is the thing. People need to be smart and discreet about it.

For fuck sake don't go around asking everyone about it beforehand.

If you ask a lady beforehand and she says no and you throw her back, mami is going to want to know why you didn't select her and ask her why. Mami wants to know because she wants her commission for writing the voucher. The lady is going to tell the mami you wanted no condom and then she gets a pass from the mami for not getting selected. Then the girls are going to discuss it amongst themselves as well back at the couch. Good luck getting another girl from that couch or others because word is going to spread. So even if you find someone that would normally be willing to do it for a few extra rupiah, she won't because she will lose face back at her couch if the other ladies see her go with you and they all know you are asking about no condom. Just like Zippos posts below.

The worst thing in the world would be to go around and start asking mamis and ladies for no condom. Mami wants to write vouchers and tickets. Sick ladies that can't work can't make the mami money for writing vouchers.

Best advice is roll the dice and discuss it privately and discreetly in the room. Some will. Some won't. Take your chances. Classic is cheap.[/QUOTE]This is very very likely. Every girl I've bb at Classic opened the packet, unwrapped the cover, and threw it in the trash like it had been used.

Use your big head and just take the 375 k loss if you end up with a provider who's not giving you the service you want. Go back downstairs after having a little fun, and pick another one. It's not a big loss.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2887881]Dude, I flipped when you wrote this, are you serious! I am waiting for a reply and want to know mamasan's reaction when you ask her this.[/QUOTE]When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.

We all did it at some point in our mongering career. Going ahead don't be foolish enough to ask mamasan about bareback, it's a no no. And if you do chances of you landing in a no fly zone. I would often ask mama for basic services like DFK & BBBJ, both very important for me and additional like great attitude in room, if she does chances are she would offer me BB / anal with a smile.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893461]When I was young and stupid.

Yes, years ago. I was this stupid. I went into a well known place (mentioned in the forums before but I won't be so boring to name the place) where I was very lucky to have amazing bb sex with a beautiful young provider. I went back the NEXT day to try to do it again, and same provider was not in the line up. So I picked another, and went in. When getting to the deed, I rubbed bare on her and she demanded the packet. I tell her I would tip very nicely if she would keep going, she said no. So I wrapped up, and the session wasn't that great. Then she said no DFK, and then later, she wanted to do covered BJ. At one point, I just stood up and got dressed. She was confused / upset / whatever. We went back to the counter and MMS asked "what happened?" and the provider was the one who immediately started blurting out how I wanted to do everything without a condom. So MMS brought me to a quiet corner and asked me if this was true. I looked at her and said that she gave me a girl with great service yesterday and today, for the same price, I'm getting really bad service because she said no to this and no to that. I would prefer if she recommend to me a girl like yesterday.

MMS gave me a sorry and exasperated look, like she really messed up and was stuck. So yes, she did feel bad that she introduced me to a girl with "extra" service, and this next girl made a loud stink about extra. All MMS said at that point was "I'm very sorry, but every girl is different, would you like to try again?" She was super nice, and I would have tried again, but the problem was that this place was 780 k per session and I didn't pack a second round's worth of IDR with me. Only enough for bluebird round trip, entry, and generous tip one time.

This was years ago and I learned to just relax and carry extra cash. Don't make a scene. Don't piss off MMS or providers. Don't get banned. The next time you will probably get better service.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893447]I use an international ATM account that waives ATM fees. There's a new ripoff happening when I used BCA. They had a built in currency exchange rate that told you they charged 5%. So because it's not a flat fee, my ATM card can't waive that fee. I had to pay it. IDR is at 15500 for USD conversion and the BCA ATM converted it at 14800 for its service fee. What a rip off. The airport was selling IDR at 15300 and I should have just bought IDR there. Yes, I saw the single ATM, but just walk another 50 meters ahead, pass the door, and you'll see a bunch of exchange booths offering traveler rate.

Also, what's the deal now that so many ATM's limit the max cash out to 1,250,000? So stupid.[/QUOTE]1. Use an ATM outside that is attached to a bank office. Usually they are safer.

2. Reject currency conversion offered. Every ATM will show that option (maybe in local language).

3. Always carry some money (maybe 200 K) back to your home country so that you can use for Taxi the next time you visit. I always keep some money as a backup but however use my card to book Grab from the Airport.

4. If travel into a country with no local currency, then bring high denomination home currency notes and exchange very minimal amount at the airport (inside or outside wherever they offer good rates) to manage the Taxi.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2885735]If you want to reminisce with the girls who hung out in CJs BATS Red Square and Blok M in the heydays 10+ years ago, head to EP. They're just about all there.[/QUOTE]Is it still worth enough to visit EP for hunting freelancers these days? If so what time in weekends it can be active?

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2893522]Is it still worth enough to visit EP for hunting freelancers these days? If so what time in weekends it can be active?[/QUOTE]There's a group of them usually congregating out the back when the band plays on a Friday night. I'm usually blind drunk by the time I get there and this may be the old beer goggles talking, but there are some decent types, as long as you're not looking for model quality. I've no idea of what they charge, but I would imagine 1-2 million in the current market. Why not trawl the aps, find a date and take her there (or somewhere nicer). It's not a bad boozer, but never really struck me as the kind of place I'd take an Indo girl for a date (unless she's a total lush).

Agreed. You have to meet the girls, hang out with them, take them to bed to see how good company she would be for the whole week on the road. Then work out complete agreements on what you and she expects form the trip. Would be very bad to get into misunderstandings and fights on the vacation as have happened to my wingmen who assumed too much about expectations in Mexico.

There are over a hundred girls in classic 1 and 2. Invite them to a dark corner, buy them drinks, kiss their mouths, squeeze their boobs, rub their crotch. Take those with hot responses to bed to check them out further.

Medan is a pretty, fun, happy, lively, flirty, smiling, talkative spinner, one of the nicest, happiest girls I ever met. Unlike other motionless dolls in Classic, she cruises around the club, playing, flirting with guys and is a favorite among big ballers. She was trying to use Google Translate with me but it did not do Indonesian. Regardless, we had perfect mutual understanding. I bought her a Soju for 125 K. It was pretty strong, so she is a reformed Muslim, would be fun, sexy and good drinking company on the road hehe. I get passionate just thinking about her pretty smiling face and her beautiful natural body with the smoothest skin. Look at her pics. I tried to erase all personal marks. Looks like I will have to come back to Jakarta soon.

I heard Surabaya and Yogyakarta have lots of hot girls, just not enough intels where and how to find them. Would take more time to travel away from Jakarta with unpredictable results.

What normally happens in these bars during Ramadan?

Do the girls go home a week prior? The week of? Do they stay and work?

I have been there in the middle of Ramadan for a few days but I met up with a chick during that time.

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2893451]Unless this is a new modification on certain banks' ATMs, there should be two options on any given ATM to choose from before you withdraw your cash.

That is:

"accept with currency conversion" - This usually has the BS fees the ATM owner charges. It is just 100% pure profit for the bank. It is called DCC, Dynamic Currency Conversion and you are essentially giving the ATM owner permission to convert the currency for you, for a fee.

"accept without currency conversion" - This should be closer to the spot exchange rate and your home bank will do the conversion for you when it processes the transaction. It will still usually be less than the spot exchange rates you see on XE, etc. But much better than using the ATM owner's DCC.

Interesting if BCA has somehow removed this option. I typically use CIMB Niaga. In December, they still had the option to decline the bank's DCC (Dynamic Currency Conversion). And at CIMB Niaga, you can typically withdraw 3 million.[/QUOTE]CIMB has the option to withdraw 1 M, 2 M, 3 M, but if you click Reject Currency Conversion after clicking 3 M, it will tell you that the request exceeds the maximum. So maybe the 3 M is only if you accept currency conversion. If you don't, 2 M is the max.

HSBC ATM's were the gold standard for me. 3 M no conversion. But those ATM's are hard to find now. I'm not even sure HSBC has a presence in Jakarta anymore!

BNI is 1 M or 1. 25 M. Very low.

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BNI is 1 M or 1. 25 M. Very low.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of dual note ATMs now. 1. 25 jt is when withdrawing 50 k notes. Look for machines that have 50 and 100 k notes. They will ask which notes you prefer and when you select 100 k, then the max single withdrawal will be 2. 5 jt.

This assumes you're using a foreign card. If you are using that ATM's bank card it won't ask what notes you prefer.

Cheers. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2893637]There are a lot of dual note ATMs now. 1. 25 jt is when withdrawing 50 k notes. Look for machines that have 50 and 100 k notes. They will ask which notes you prefer and when you select 100 k, then the max single withdrawal will be 2. 5 jt.

This assumes you're using a foreign card. If you are using that ATM's bank card it won't ask what notes you prefer.

Cheers. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the good advise. I'll try that out. Also if you're ever looking for good exchange rates, I've found that the big malls have quite competitive exchangers. Just carry new $100 USD for the USDA exchange rate. It's better than the be, see, the rates of older and / or smaller bills.

Guys, I am finding it difficult to get girls for morning sex in Jakarta. I reached out to many girls, all reply late noon and not ready to come in morning. If anyone has any contacts, please help.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893701]Thanks for the good advise. I'll try that out. Also if you're ever looking for good exchange rates, I've found that the big malls have quite competitive exchangers. Just carry new $100 USD for the USDA exchange rate. It's better than the be, see, the rates of older and / or smaller bills.[/QUOTE]Thanks. But I don't travel with FX. I was amazed this last trip how common CC facilities have now become. I use Wise and for six weeks, I think I only used about 5 jt in cash. Everything else was on the card: Grab, meals, shopping, entertainment, everything. That was a family friendly holiday though, no mongering.

I didn't have any issues with fraudulent or extra charges.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Mastman;2893706]Guys, I am finding it difficult to get girls for morning sex in Jakarta. I reached out to many girls, all reply late noon and not ready to come in morning. If anyone has any contacts, please help.[/QUOTE]Good luck with that!!

From 2 am to 2 pm, any girl that doesn't have a John is looking after her kid, asleep or hung over.

The only options for dine in are keep an over nighter LT from the night before. If you are happy to catch and kill your own, you have the 24 hour bordellos or discos open 24/7 over the weekends but don't expect any quality at all at 7 am.

Keeping an all nighter is by far the easiest.

Good luck. G.

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First you go to your old dive cafe in West Jakarta, pick the girl and insist she has no baby.

Then you help her undress, fondle her little 19 yo boobies, lube up her ever so small vagina and then insert your big thing in nice and slowly. Then move in and out.

Please do not try this at home.

Can anyone point me in right direction to good trip report of staying at classic, or give me some info about staying there and what's it like staying there and that area. Thanks so much.

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2893750]Here's one for all.[/QUOTE]Great report. Searched for the specified cafe in google to look for freelancers. Nothing pop up. Any pointers for those type of freelancers can get from any bar / discos?

BATS, CJS and Basque bar are in my bucket list for getting freelancers. Any other bars in the list to hunt for freelancers in CEntral, South and North Jakarta bars. Looking for LT freelancers between 1 to 1. 5 Juta. Of course can go up if situation demands. He he.

I have a different method, thanks to having a local friend. She very much welcomes USD and Euro's. So she tops up her BCA card with a generous amount in Rupiahs. I use that card during my stay and before leaving Jakarta, using XE, we translate the amount that I have used and give her the EURO or USD banknotes.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2893721]Good luck with that!!

From 2 am to 2 pm, any girl that doesn't have a John is looking after her kid, asleep or hung over.

The only options for dine in are keep an over nighter LT from the night before. If you are happy to catch and kill your own, you have the 24 hour bordellos or discos open 24/7 over the weekends but don't expect any quality at all at 7 am.

Keeping an all nighter is by far the easiest.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]Where are these 24 hour bordellos and discos of which you speak?

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893612]CIMB has the option to withdraw 1 M, 2 M, 3 M,[/QUOTE]I was using CIMB with Wise and 3 million. Other machines were 1. 25 million max. Crazy. Wouldn't even last any serious monger til 7 pm.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2893904]I was using CIMB with Wise and 3 million. Other machines were 1. 25 million max. Crazy. Wouldn't even last any serious monger til 7 pm.[/QUOTE]You can make multiple withdrawals from the same ATM. If the 'limit' is 1.25 million you can withdraw that amount several times in row. Makes little sense but that's the way it is.

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[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2893898]Where are these 24 hour bordellos and discos of which you speak?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I'm waaay too old for that shit now. 😭. The last 24 hour party zone I went to was Stadium so that gives you an idea of my vintage.

A quick google of "Jakarta 24 HR discos" gives multiple examples in Kota and Jaksel. Whether they are good, bad or indifferent you will have to ask others. Don't expect high end roof top bars. More a gazillion kids, chemically fuelled to party the weekend away.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2893716]Thanks. But I don't travel with FX. I was amazed this last trip how common CC facilities have now become. I use Wise and for six weeks, I think I only used about 5 jt in cash. Everything else was on the card: Grab, meals, shopping, entertainment, everything. That was a family friendly holiday though, no mongering.

I didn't have any issues with fraudulent or extra charges.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Are you able to use a Visa credit card at places like classic, travel, and malio? I have a Venture X which shouldn't have foreign exchange fees.

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2894105]Are you able to use a Visa credit card at places like classic, travel, and malio? I have a Venture X which shouldn't have foreign exchange fees.[/QUOTE]Travel and Malio are a definite yes. Others can confirm but I assume Classic too.

G.

I used a business Visa couple times in Classic to pay girls' fees when I ran short of cash.

Amex was rejected.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2894117]Travel and Malio are a definite yes. Others can confirm but I assume Classic too.

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894129]I used a business Visa couple times in Classic to pay girls' fees when I ran short of cash.

Amex was rejected.[/QUOTE]I think Amex would be a struggle most places in Asia, legitimate or not. Certainly the smaller or remote knockshops.

G.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2894043]A shame. I have enjoyed your posts but I am leaning in the same direction. The moderation here makes no sense at all. Punishing contributors and rewarding trolls seems like a strange way to run a board.[/QUOTE]OS is funny, well-informed, and provides some good pics. He's even literate! What's the problem? Seems admin (like many in the admin field) has no sense of irony or fun.

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[QUOTE=Goferring;2894164]I think Amex would be a struggle most places in Asia, legitimate or not. Certainly the smaller or remote knockshops..[/QUOTE]Agreed, with very rare high-end exceptions, AMEX is not accepted anywhere I've been in Asia for the past 25 years.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2894076]Sorry, I'm waaay too old for that shit now. 😭. The last 24 hour party zone I went to was Stadium so that gives you an idea of my vintage.

A quick google of "Jakarta 24 HR discos" gives multiple examples in Kota and Jaksel. Whether they are good, bad or indifferent you will have to ask others. Don't expect high end roof top bars. More a gazillion kids, chemically fuelled to party the weekend away..[/QUOTE]You were the one who brought them up, figured you knew where they were.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2894117]Travel and Malio are a definite yes. Others can confirm but I assume Classic too.

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894129]I used a business Visa couple times in Classic to pay girls' fees when I ran short of cash.

Amex was rejected.[/QUOTE]That's some dangerous info, might be going into debt haha.

Not much reports on HClub. Is it just a visual feast or anything for mongers? Wish to explore the scene. Of course will upload a report after visiting.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2894117]Travel and Malio are a definite yes. Others can confirm but I assume Classic too.

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894129]I used a business Visa couple times in Classic to pay girls' fees when I ran short of cash.

Amex was rejected.[/QUOTE]What do these transactions appear as on the statement? So far I have used only cash for my two encounters in Jakarta (2023) but I have tried using a debit card while mongering in Thailand that has zero forex fees, but I would using a credit card. The transactions from these Thai spas explicitly in Bangkok appear with their spa names clearly visible on my bank statement, but that is okay as this bank account is hidden from Mrs. But if credit card transaction entries are discreet, I would avoid the hassle of extra steps like secretly transferring money to my secondary bank during my upcoming solo trip to Jakarta. TIA.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2894043]A shame. I have enjoyed your posts but I am leaning in the same direction. The moderation here makes no sense at all. Punishing contributors and rewarding trolls seems like a strange way to run a board.[/QUOTE]I also have to agree with this. I think too much intolerance by Admin will be really counterproductive for this forum because people will start to walk away.

First you go to your old dive cafe in West Jakarta, pick the girl and insist she has no baby.

Then you help her undress, fondle her little 19 yo boobies, lube up her ever so small vagina and then insert your big thing in nice and slowly. Then move in and out.

Please do not try this at home. .

Which "old dive cafe" does one need to go to to partake of this delight?

I need to refresh my 30 days in LOS so I figured I'd fly to Jakarta and hit up the fish bowl joints. And Travel Hotel. It was only today that I randomly thought of Ramadan and I remember it being in the Spring, so I looked it up and saw it starts March 10th! I'll be there 8-13th. I already know to load up on enough beer on the 8th and 9th at the super market, but does anyone know if the places in Kota and Pen. J are going to be open?

I typically go there for sex and then I'll go to Blok M to shoot the shit over a few beers. Will the Blok M bars also be open?

Thanks!

I sent a private message to "Classic" via their Instagram to ask for their rates, they replied listing much higher rates than those read on these pages. Perhaps it is an attempt to extort more money from the foreigner or here they write things based more on imagination than reality. Where is the truth?

Below is the copy and paste of the dialogue.

ME: How much for full night to morning?

Mon 11.37 pm.

Bunker Hotel Classic:

Local short 2 hours 1.9.

Bunker Hotel Classic:

Long 6 hours 3.4.

Bunker Hotel Classic:

Foreignerl / import short 2 hours 3.3.

Bunker Hotel Classic:

Long 6 jams 5.6.

ME:

My friend who is currently in Jakarta, he pay girls at Classic 400,000 - 600,000. Not according to the rate you wrote to me.

Bunker Hotel Classic:

That's Onspot / TKP.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2894244]You were the one who brought them up, figured you knew where they were.[/QUOTE]My bad. As I said, I'm too old for 24 hour partying now.

Suggest you reread my posts. I gave the area, likely clientele and even search terms for alternatives. I would have thought that was enough for an enterprising monger to find his way.

For those that need more hand holding or live reporting, I'd suggest a quick PM to members who obviously enjoy the local-local scene. Over the years, I've had several conversations comparing my good ol days to their current conquests.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;2894289]I need to refresh my 30 days in LOS so I figured I'd fly to Jakarta and hit up the fish bowl joints. And Travel Hotel. It was only today that I randomly thought of Ramadan and I remember it being in the Spring, so I looked it up and saw it starts March 10th! I'll be there 8-13th. I already know to load up on enough beer on the 8th and 9th at the super market, but does anyone know if the places in Kota and Pen. J are going to be open?

I typically go there for sex and then I'll go to Blok M to shoot the shit over a few beers. Will the Blok M bars also be open?

Thanks![/QUOTE]You've got the wrong dates. Idul Fitri is April 9-10. Those places of interest mentioned will likely be closed April 6-14. Give or take a day or two.

March 8-13 you'll be fine.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2894164]I think Amex would be a struggle most places in Asia, legitimate or not. Certainly the smaller or remote knockshops.[/QUOTE]I don't even bring my Amex to Asia any more. It is accepted at HIGH END shops in malls and nice hotel restaurants but others are correct it's not widely accepted.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2893449]When you walk out of KC, look left, the dark street. Walk to the street and look right. Cross the street where there's an opening at the median. There's usually one Bluebird parked there, maybe two. Are those Bluebirds gone now? That was your only hope to find a taxi without pulling one up on My Bluebird or walking a million miles to the mall.[/QUOTE]

I am aware where the taxis are supposed to be in KG. However, it was early in the day (6 or 7 pm?) and pouring rain so there were none there nor any Grab availability. It may be completely different at 9 or 10 pm when I'm sure KG is hopping.

Grab is a mess when it rains in Jakarta, not unlike Bolt in Pattaya.

At the risk of being called a "Blabber" by OS, here's a quick summary of my very short 2 week stay in Jakarta.

Classic. Over 10 visits. Some nights just mind blowing and other nights were AAB. Really luck of the draw but Sundays and Mondays seemed slow. Changes I didn't like. Girls no longer wear matching sexy dresses and just wear whatever random clothes they had that was washed. Met some great beautiful girls. BBFS is available if you don't push for it. Someone posted you can get BBFS from any girl if you tip 100 k at Classic. This is so not true from my experience. I don't even go for BBFS often but wanted to test this theory. I even offered imo the hottest girl there 200 k then 500 k since she asked me how much I would pay for BBFS and she looked insulted at my offers.

Travel. Around 6 visits. Overall the talent is much lower than Classic but there are certainly gems there if you hang around long enough or go often enough. One of the prettiest young busty girls this trip was Puspa. Around 5'0". Sex and BBBJ were good but refused to even DFK so no repeat. No BBFS offers. I just find mileage lower here with less pretty girls. I usually don't let the mamas bother me in these places and get along with almost all of them but that 150 year old witch they have at Travel who kept touching me really irked me to the point I had to tell her off. You've seen me at your club well over 100 times stop bothering me!

Kelapa Gading. Place is like a morgue. Girls not as pretty as Classic or Travel. BBFS available just like all bars a bit further away. I was offered BBFS by my KC girl and didn't even want it. Maybe it's different on a weekend night at 9 pm but I have better places to be at those hours. No taxis available during daylight hours and unable to secure a Grab.

New Medika. I'd only return if I needed to go to Mal Ciputra. On the good side traffic didn't seem nearly as bad to / from West Jakarta as it used to be. Lots of girls none too appealing. Service was bad by my girl. Used to be bad with my regular there too but I didn't care cause she was so damn hot. Maybe someone here can let us know if good service can be had at NM.

Kota Indah. Around 8 visits. The first couple of nights I went it was awful. Then it got better and better. The best of the bunch was New Sari Ayu. Royal, MTR, Grand LA (Larys Ayu) were all the same. Starmoon severely lacking. No customers at all every time I walked in. Some posters seemed to think this area is unsafe. I've never had a safety concern here. The Blabber calls it like it is. We know we only go there because BBFS is the norm. Not getting BBFS and good service is just unlucky.

Malio. Didn't go even though I literally stayed across the street. I can no longer walk there from Harris Vertu due to construction and a grab took longer to loop around than it took to get to Travel and Classic. Anyone know when that damn subway is going to end? Been like 6 or 7 years already.

[QUOTE=Medellin65;2894329]I sent a private message to "Classic" via their Instagram to ask for their rates, they replied listing much higher rates than those read on these pages. Perhaps it is an attempt to extort more money from the foreigner or here they write things based more on imagination than reality. Where is the truth?

Below is the copy and paste of the dialogue.

ME: How much for full night to morning?

Mon 11.37 pm.

Bunker Hotel Classic:.[/QUOTE]That's because you asked on Instagram. The rates are as stated here on the forum, 375 for one girl short time on site, 500 for two.

The guy posts no info useful for anyone, only props himself up, trolls, teases, insults and pisses off readers, typical narcissist who works hard everyday to make himself look cute. His pics with the nasty pussies and someone's tiny, shriveled dick is ugly, stupid and ridiculous. But he thinks they are very cute. Everyone can asee through his stupid game.

Got to admit Admins are pretty fair and patient, know what they are doing, know exactly what's good or bad for the forum and readers.

Not surprised if this nasty troll will be banned permanently. In mean time just avoid him like stupid shit.

It is clear the admin of this board has some agenda and cannot accept feedback from actual contributing members. So I am now dropping off this board and will not be sharing future info or trip reports. I was actually warned by other well experienced Jakarta vets not to post here and they were correct. I doubt the vigilant mods will allow this posting to stay up long but adios folks it was nice knowing you.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2894490]It is clear the admin of this board has some agenda and cannot accept feedback from actual contributing members. So I am now dropping off this board and will not be sharing future info or trip reports. I was actually warned by other well experienced Jakarta vets not to post here and they were correct. I doubt the vigilant mods will allow this posting to stay up long but adios folks it was nice knowing you.[/QUOTE]Sir, You continue with your usual agenda if that make you happy. This place is to share and care of like minded people. The forum name itself reflect it. We enjoy informations and fun, so don't be back. Keep going.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2894426]At the risk of being called a "Blabber" by OS, here's a quick summary of my very short 2 week stay in Jakarta.

[/QUOTE]BB, I always read your reports very keenly. I will get lots of tips from it and of course from your PMs. Here I think why you missed Emporium, BATS and CJs. ?Reaching Jakarta on Feb 23rd and visiting places you mentioned.Wish to know the updates of the pointed venues as it is in my hit list. Comments will highly be appreciated.[URL][/URL]

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2894855]BB, I always read your reports very keenly. I will get lots of tips from it and of course from your PMs. Here I think why you missed Emporium, BATS and CJs. ?Reaching Jakarta on Feb 23rd and visiting places you mentioned.Wish to know the updates of the pointed venues as it is in my hit list. Comments will highly be appreciated.[URL][/URL][/QUOTE]Didn't forget them just didn't feel like going to Emporium at all even though I drove by it every single day to / from Classic.

I AM NOT a CJ's or BATS guy. 1. I don't do LT. I'd rather sleep. 2. too expensive. 3. girls are much older and serious pros 4. After a few girls during the day at other bars I'm too exhausted by midnight to travel to South Jakarta.

Who are you talking about better to be loud & clear so one can benefit, thanks CS.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894478]The guy posts no info useful for anyone, only props himself up, trolls, teases, insults and pisses off readers, typical narcissist who works hard everyday to make himself look cute. His pics with the nasty pussies and someone's tiny, shriveled dick is ugly, stupid and ridiculous. But he thinks they are very cute. Everyone can asee through his stupid game.

Got to admit Admins are pretty fair and patient, know what they are doing, know exactly what's good or bad for the forum and readers.

Not surprised if this nasty troll will be banned permanently. In mean time just avoid him like stupid shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2894967]Didn't forget them just didn't feel like going to Emporium at all even though I drove by it every single day to / from Classic.

I AM NOT a CJ's or BATS guy. 1. I don't do LT. I'd rather sleep. 2. too expensive. 3. girls are much older and serious pros 4. After a few girls during the day at other bars I'm too exhausted by midnight to travel to South Jakarta.[/QUOTE]Got it. People are of different types, some love to cuddle naked with pretty girls at night. Some love no disturbance. Some love pillows to hug. Same world different habits.Thanks for the response

[QUOTE=OffshoreSwell;2895008]It's all yours, OS is done with this board.

Having been infringed three times ny PM now by admin for writing " Pointless Drama". OS figures it is time to fall on his sword. Thanks to all the good posters OS particularly liked reading HL77 but there were others too.

Adios Amigo's.[/QUOTE]OS,
Your photos, reports and humor will be remembered.
You introduced this board to a hidden gem called Grab Feel. We will miss you.

~BKKguru

OffshoreSwell,

You will be missed. My favorite poster for accuracy and humor. Thank you so much especially for the Grab Feel information!

I booked non-refundable trip Mar 21-26 without realizing it coincides with Ramadan (Mar 10 - Apr 9) and seeking suggestions where and how to make the most of my trip during this time without it being an utter flop. Is there a complete shutdown of bars, clubs, massage parlors throughout the entire period or if it's only for a few days at the start and end of Ramadan. What about Classic, Travel, and establishments in and around Blok M and other areas?

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2895247]I booked non-refundable trip Mar 21-26 without realizing it coincides with Ramadan (Mar 10 - Apr 9) and seeking suggestions where and how to make the most of my trip during this time without it being an utter flop. Is there a complete shutdown of bars, clubs, massage parlors throughout the entire period or if it's only for a few days at the start and end of Ramadan. What about Classic, Travel, and establishments in and around Blok M and other areas?[/QUOTE]I'm in the same boat and would like to know. I've RTFF and I've come to the conclusion that while there will be less girls (like 50% less), that leaves plenty enough to have fun. Another poster said the tail end of Ramadan is when things shutdown.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2894478]The guy posts no info useful for anyone, only props himself up, trolls, teases, insults and pisses off readers, typical narcissist who works hard everyday to make himself look cute. His pics with the nasty pussies and someone's tiny, shriveled dick is ugly, stupid and ridiculous. But he thinks they are very cute. Everyone can asee through his stupid game.

Got to admit Admins are pretty fair and patient, know what they are doing, know exactly what's good or bad for the forum and readers.

Not surprised if this nasty troll will be banned permanently. In mean time just avoid him like stupid shit.[/QUOTE]I totally support the admins on moderation. At times, it is disheartening to see someone mocked because of differences in opinions. It doesn't change because someone has a better knowledge of a particular area, so they can get away with treating others badly in public. In the end, it's the quality information that is welcomed by readers, not the opinions, IMHO. Having a bit of a sense of humour helps, but not by hurting others at the same time.

[QUOTE=CDawg3141;2896265]I'm in the same boat and would like to know. I've RTFF and I've come to the conclusion that while there will be less girls (like 50% less), that leaves plenty enough to have fun. Another poster said the tail end of Ramadan is when things shutdown.[/QUOTE]Pro Tip: the two weeks BEFORE Ramadan is THE BEST time to be in town as girls of all persuasions try to make extra money to fund the trip back home and the associated presents etc.

G.

P.S. You are correct about there still being many many girls in town. You won't starve. 😁.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2895247]I booked non-refundable trip Mar 21-26 without realizing it coincides with Ramadan (Mar 10 - Apr 9) and seeking suggestions where and how to make the most of my trip during this time without it being an utter flop. Is there a complete shutdown of bars, clubs, massage parlors throughout the entire period or if it's only for a few days at the start and end of Ramadan. What about Classic, Travel, and establishments in and around Blok M and other areas?[/QUOTE]As posted previously: quite a few of the girls have family in different parts of Indonesia and will visit these places for most of Ramadan. It's like Thanks Giving and Christmas combined.

Careful: many places will give the impression to be closed. But that's not necessarily true. E. g. The main entrance to the underground girls club at Travel Hotel is officially closed during Ramadan. However: there is a covert second entrance, not visible to the public. You have to ask the guards (using Google translate) about directions. The number of girls will be about half the usual number and most will arrive after sunset. As the girls are indeed strapped for cash just before and until late Ramadan, they are more eager to please (still the standard rate applies - 375 for covert sex).

At Lokasari (7 minutes on foot from Travel) you will find the usual girls, as they are all local girls from North Jakarta. See my previous posts about that place. Prices are 400-450 for BBFS CIP (bring your own lubrication! Either you have your own hotel or you have to pay another 200 for that. I'm generally meeting these girls at my AirBnB and I'm attaching some pictures to give an impression of choices.

Been here 4 days. First day wondered into Loskari where an aggressive and pushy pimp got rude and aggressive when I didn't want his girls. Haven't been back of course, could be dangerous. Had 2 days sick but recovered enough to go to Travel hotel, lots of girls sitting around but was lumbered with one mamasan, quite friendly but tried to push some less than desirable girls in my direction. She eventually conjured up some more decent girls of which I chose one. Turned out passable rather than good or bad, a bit mechanical. The average age and appearance of the girls on this Sunday night would be on par with the beer bar girls in Pattaya rather than the younger, slimmer gogo girls. Of course I noticed a few more younger ones as I was leaving. As a white old middle aged git I can't expect too much of course.

[QUOTE=Steve99;2896653] <snip> First day wondered into Loskari where an aggressive and pushy pimp got rude and aggressive when I didn't want his girls. Haven't been back of course, could be dangerous. [/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment.
If you see a Police Van parked outside the Compound entrance gate, run in the other direction.

Pre-Covid, Lokasari was raided multiple times for drug transactions.
If you walk past the KFC all the way to the end and make a left turn, you will see rough looking characters after 11 pm. They are sitting in the parking lot waiting for Customers.

Lokasari is for locals who cannot affort to visit Classic or any other Clubs. They are looking for a girl for 300,000 Rupiah or less. You are scraping the bottom by visiting this place.

I have no idea why another Member is hyping this place.
I won't pass judgement. You can decide for yourself.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=BKKguru;2896812]I agree with your assessment.
If you see a Police Van parked outside the Compound entrance gate, run in the other direction.

Pre-Covid, Lokasari was raided multiple times for drug transactions.
If you walk past the KFC all the way to the end and make a left turn, you will see rough looking characters after 11 pm. They are sitting in the parking lot waiting for Customers.

Lokasari is for locals who cannot affort to visit Classic or any other Clubs. They are looking for a girl for 300,000 Rupiah or less. You are scraping the bottom by visiting this place.

I have no idea why another Member is hyping this place.
I won't pass judgement. You can decide for yourself.

~BKKguru[/QUOTE]I'm really confused. I have been at Lokasari numerous times in 2022 and 2023. In my last post I'm showing pictures of the typical kind of girl that I get numbers from there (and meet them at my AirBnB). They are generally younger and somewhat better looking than at Travel Hotel these days (the latter one admittedly has worse quality that pre-covid). So I don't understand your comment of scraping at the bottom and a previous about old / horrible looking girls. Yes, there are old women. But these are the mamasans (All the way to the end is the Lokasari shopping mall with the Hari Hari supermarket on top. To the left are restaurants and a KTV place (and at the very end the back entrance of the Olympic Hotel, that I used multiple times). Maybe I was there during a different time of the year than you have been. But I can't recall much of "rough characters". Nothing that you won't find at any other street in north Jakarta.

According to the UN-OCD (UN office on crime), Indonesia got a homicide rate of just 0,4 per 100.000 people. For USA it's 6,4 per 100.000 people. Mexico / Colombia as popular mongering locations for US based folks are at 26/25 per 100.000 people. Anywhere in Indonesia. Except Papua of course! - is safer than the US and practically every other mongering location on earth, according to the UN. It's safer than freaking Germany with it's FKK clubs. And Thailand. And Phillipines. It looks bad, sure, due to the state of disrepair in the North. Therefore Jakarta will never draw much tourists. But it's not unsafe compared to the US.

As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.

My second trip to Indonesia. I was not expecting to much as this is Ramadan.

However I was very positively surprised at Classic.

I've entered the club around 8. 30 pm on Monday. There were much less mongers compared to what I saw in January and there were still lots of ladies.

This time I allowed first mamasam that approached me to make arrangement. I've asked specifically for slim and either tall or short girl. She brought 2. Both were great. Slim, and one was around 170 and second around 150, maybe less. She saw my hesitation and tried to convince me to take both but my previous experience with duet what not good. So I've decided for petite one called 'Niya'.

'Niya' was not speaking English. Google translator was needed. She was 20. Maybe even less than 150 cm, slim, nice shape of tits between A and be, very sensitive to touch. Body shape proportional, delicate skin, pretty young face. Really good look. I would say even 9.

Started with shower as with previous encounters. When we've moved to bed I've realised what some of you meant when advising to take one girl not two at classic. It was much easier to build the connection, gentle persuasion and some guiding did the job. She allowed me to give her a plesure orally first and after few minutes she allowed me to penetrate her with fingers. Once I was sure she enjoyed it I've asked for unprotected blowjob. This was amazing. She has managed to take whole dick in her mouth and allowed gentle deep throat. I've never experienced DT with Asian. I've showed her some technics on porhub and she were following it perfectly. I've got maybe 3 or 4 that good blowjobs overall with some Europeans.

We've started sex with her on top. She said that it was painful so we've changed to different variants of classic and finished with diggystyle. After sex I've asked her to lick my dick to clean it. She laughed and said she will not do this. I've showed her another porhub movie and she did it. I think that those movies were turning her on somehow. I've left her 200 k tip and we've left the room.

On my way back to hotel I got a chat with Grab driver about classic and other venues. It turned out that he is a regular visitor there. He names all the places that you can see in the reviews. Classic, Travel and Paragon. He has pointed out that Classic has usually biggest choice of girls so he ends up there most often. I've asked about Loksari and his advice was to stay away from the place. He was mentioning that police does drug raids there and it may happen that they may drop something off to your pocket during a raid.

When I got back to hotel I've realized that I forgot to ask her for what's up number. Anyway. Great Monday evening.

It's unfortunate when some tout tells you to F. O. , even more so when you are in a foreign country. Not a pleasant experience. I'm happy it wasn't me but sometimes when you go abroad these things happen. And if that beauty as posted below, is the bottom of the barrel from Lokasari… well…I'll gladly have some of that.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2896447]

At Lokasari (7 minutes on foot from Travel) you will find the usual girls, as they are all local girls from North Jakarta. See my previous posts about that place. Prices are 400-450 for BBFS CIP (bring your own lubrication! Either you have your own hotel or you have to pay another 200 for that. I'm generally meeting these girls at my AirBnB and I'm attaching some pictures to give an impression of choices.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2896958]

As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.[/QUOTE]I will be there 10th April onwards.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2896958]I'm really confused. I have been at Lokasari numerous times in 2022 and 2023. In my last post I'm showing pictures of the typical kind of girl that I get numbers from there (and meet them at my AirBnB). They are generally younger and somewhat better looking than at Travel Hotel these days (the latter one admittedly has worse quality that pre-covid). So I don't understand your comment of scraping at the bottom and a previous about old / horrible looking girls. Yes, there are old women. But these are the mamasans (All the way to the end is the Lokasari shopping mall with the Hari Hari supermarket on top. To the left are restaurants and a KTV place (and at the very end the back entrance of the Olympic Hotel, that I used multiple times). Maybe I was there during a different time of the year than you have been. But I can't recall much of "rough characters". Nothing that you won't find at any other street in north Jakarta.

According to the UN-OCD (UN office on crime), Indonesia got a homicide rate of just 0,4 per 100.000 people. For USA it's 6,4 per 100.000 people. Mexico / Colombia as popular mongering locations for US based folks are at 26/25 per 100.000 people. Anywhere in Indonesia. Except Papua of course! - is safer than the US and practically every other mongering location on earth, according to the UN. It's safer than freaking Germany with it's FKK clubs. And Thailand. And Phillipines. It looks bad, sure, due to the state of disrepair in the North. Therefore Jakarta will never draw much tourists. But it's not unsafe compared to the US.

As it so happends I will be back in Jakarta at the end of March. If you or another forum member happens to be around, I'm more than willing to meetup around Lokasari / Travel to discuss the landscape.[/QUOTE]Sounds like BKKGuru is just scared to be somewhere where he isn't surrounded by other foreigners. Hardly a "guru. " The chick you posted pix of is hot. Love the small, slim bodies of these Indo girls.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2897059]Sounds like BKKGuru is just scared to be somewhere where he isn't surrounded by other foreigners. Hardly a "guru. " The chick you posted pix of is hot. Love the small, slim bodies of these Indo girls.[/QUOTE]It's actually 4 different girls.

I will be in Jakarta next time from 24. March to 8. April. Anyways, I'd like to repeat:

Lokasari is particularly suitable for a certain way of meeting girls: BBFS CIP in your own hotel / AirBnB for an affordable price. If you're only plan on meeting girls directly at Lokasari you will always interact with the pushy mamasans and in addition you have to pay 180 for a questionable small hotel room. In that case Travel or Classic is the better experience. You may not get BBFS all the time (for a price) and the girls are a somewhat older. But it's more convenient (better rooms and indoors).

However, for Lokasari girls if you're staying around North Jakarta and for more than a week, you can start collecting Whatsapp numbers. You essentially only need to meet 2-3 girls directly at Lokasari and they will start bringing the other girls or friends directly to your hotel. Or meet you at your hotel themselves. Take their numbers. Talk to them on Whatsapp later and setup future meetings. That's the easiest strategy to regularly meet girls at your own room, if you prefer that. Sure you can pay 2 or 3 million for a girl on Tinder. But they do not look any better and BBFS is not guaranteed. With Lokasari girls you meet them for 400 and BBFS is included. Girls from Travel or Classic are not generally available for visits, as they are expected to be at the club from afternoon to after midnight.

I was in Jakarta for a week and had a great time at my usual haunts. The last day though turned out to be probably the worst day of the trip.

I've posted before what a good punting day looks like, so I won't go into detail about all of my punting days.

But on this trip, I bedded the perfect 18 year old BBFS. The service wasn't totally perfect, no DFK and no 69 which really get me in the mood, but she was perfect. 9. 5 looks, 10 body.

Also had a great massage with a beauty, and in the end I thought it was legit, ready to dress and leave when I was pleasantly shocked when she asked if I'd like additional services. She started by offering only HJ for a 600 tip, but I teased the situation and told her I'd really like a BBBJ. Was certain she was going to tell me no, but surprised me when she said 1 M. Of course, I play around and tell her that for 1 M, I could get FJ and she bounced back asking if I wanted FJ which would cost me 1. 5 M. At least we're talking here right? She was pretty beyond belief and I was surprised we even got to this point because I was certain that after the massage, I was leaving. So I caved for the 1. 5 M FJ. During the foreplay and B2 B and BBBJ, I slid into her bare and she responded 2 M. LOL. Maybe she wasn't as conservative as I had thought. Ended up 2. 4 M out the door for a 1 HR great massage plus 45 minute incredible BBBJ BBFJ session. It was expensive, but really by how much? 1 M? I walked off the heavy price tag.

The last day was a total mess. Started by going to be Fashion where I expected pretty high level service. Ended up 1. 4 M out the door for a covered session with a meh therapist. At any other joint, this would have been worth 700 k at best.

Then after a 7 hour break, I was ready to go punting again. Took a ride to Lokasari to test out what you boys are recently posting. Intended to just walk around but I was wrangled by the 3 witches of Lokasari peddling their wares. 15 photos in their phone, 3 ladies hanging around the famous hotel, and this time around, I was walked to a different location. Just so you boys get the idea, you walk to the back of the minishops on the right hand side, take the big side street that's back there (on the right hand side), walk north until you're behind actually the Lokasari Mall, then turn left into the little housing block where the dirty ass apartments are. All the way in the back maybe 80 meters, the complex turns right, and you see a really cleaned up exterior of a small 2 story or 3 story "hotel". It's not really a hotel. But inside are dirty ass apartments where working girls are living. I saw a stunning hotty, and MMS knew she had me on a hook. Negotiated 500 which I thought came with the room. When I'm upstairs, paid the 500, and ready to drop my pants, she hits me for 100 for the room. Damn. 600 k in. Paid up front and that's where the big mistake happened.

Service was total shit. No kiss, no touching, no BBBJ, no 69, no DATY, no bbfj. Everything was no. I knew I was played. So I stood up and told her I was going to inform ibu what was happening.

Ibu was actually really remorseful. She understood that this was going to generate negativity. But the cash was already held by some spook who jetted the area and was no where to be found. So she was trying to tell me that she's good for the credit and if I wanted any other girl, she'd pay for it and take care of things. I told her I wasn't interested and didn't have time. So in the end, I told her she should go back to that girl and take back all her money and keep it herself. Nothing else I could do but just suffer the 600 k loss.

Last stop was one of my fave places and I picked a stunner at the fishbowl. Unfortunately once all of the clothes came off, it was pretty clear that she's a MILF with a milfy body, enough make up to look like a rodeo clown, and it just didn't feel like a fit even though I dropped batter inside. Milfy is loose cooch, loose belly, loose arm flesh and buttocks. Typically shot out a replicant not more than a year ago. Service wasn't terrible, but it wasn't my best moment. Out the door for 400+300. Yes, 300 is a strong tip, but my purpose is not to destroy the economy for your cheap punters. There's just little point in worrying about the difference between 100,200, or 300 when it's literally 6. 50 USD for each 100 right now. And she's got a kid to feed.

But yes, the other 6 nights before that last night were incredible. Love this city, culture, people, economy.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2897201]It's actually 4 different girls.

I will be in Jakarta next time from 24. March to 8. April. Anyways, I'd like to repeat:

Lokasari is particularly suitable for a certain way of meeting girls: BBFS CIP in your own hotel / AirBnB for an affordable price. If you're only plan on meeting girls directly at Lokasari you will always interact with the pushy mamasans and in addition you have to pay 180 for a questionable small hotel room. In that case Travel or Classic is the better experience. You may not get BBFS all the time (for a price) and the girls are a somewhat older. But it's more convenient (better rooms and indoors).

However, for Lokasari girls if you're staying around North Jakarta and for more than a week, you can start collecting Whatsapp numbers. You essentially only need to meet 2-3 girls directly at Lokasari and they will start bringing the other girls or friends directly to your hotel. Or meet you at your hotel themselves. Take their numbers. Talk to them on Whatsapp later and setup future meetings. That's the easiest strategy to regularly meet girls at your own room, if you prefer that. Sure you can pay 2 or 3 million for a girl on Tinder. But they do not look any better and BBFS is not guaranteed. With Lokasari girls you meet them for 400 and BBFS is included. Girls from Travel or Classic are not generally available for visits, as they are expected to be at the club from afternoon to after midnight.[/QUOTE]The Whatsapp method sounds like exactly what works best for me. Meet a few through the mamasans and then get some contacts for future meetings. Do you happen to have any of the girls's numbers you could shoot to me privately? I will be in Jakarta probably starting in June. Cheers mate.

Good informative post. Does anyone know about Paragon. I mean where is it and how good is it. Comparable to classic, or not! Has anyone visited.

[QUOTE=Querqusek;2896969]My second trip to Indonesia. I was not expecting to much as this is Ramadan.

However I was very positively surprised at Classic.

I've entered the club around 8. 30 pm on Monday. There were much less mongers compared to what I saw in January and there were still lots of ladies.

This time I allowed first mamasam that approached me to make arrangement. I've asked specifically for slim and either tall or short girl. She brought 2. Both were great. Slim, and one was around 170 and second around 150, maybe less. She saw my hesitation and tried to convince me to take both but my previous experience with duet what not good. So I've decided for petite one called 'Niya'.

'Niya' was not speaking English. Google translator was needed. She was 20. Maybe even less than 150 cm, slim, nice shape of tits between A and be, very sensitive to touch. Body shape proportional, delicate skin, pretty young face. Really good look. I would say even 9.

Started with shower as with previous encounters. When we've moved to bed I've realised what some of you meant when advising to take one girl not two at classic. It was much easier to build the connection, gentle persuasion and some guiding did the job. She allowed me to give her a plesure orally first and after few minutes she allowed me to penetrate her with fingers. Once I was sure she enjoyed it I've asked for unprotected blowjob. This was amazing. She has managed to take whole dick in her mouth and allowed gentle deep throat. I've never experienced DT with Asian. I've showed her some technics on porhub and she were following it perfectly. I've got maybe 3 or 4 that good blowjobs overall with some Europeans.

We've started sex with her on top. She said that it was painful so we've changed to different variants of classic and finished with diggystyle. After sex I've asked her to lick my dick to clean it. She laughed and said she will not do this. I've showed her another porhub movie and she did it. I think that those movies were turning her on somehow. I've left her 200 k tip and we've left the room.

On my way back to hotel I got a chat with Grab driver about classic and other venues. It turned out that he is a regular visitor there. He names all the places that you can see in the reviews. Classic, Travel and Paragon. He has pointed out that Classic has usually biggest choice of girls so he ends up there most often. I've asked about Loksari and his advice was to stay away from the place. He was mentioning that police does drug raids there and it may happen that they may drop something off to your pocket during a raid.

When I got back to hotel I've realized that I forgot to ask her for what's up number. Anyway. Great Monday evening.[/QUOTE]

Any good places to eat decent food near this hotel or any places to eat in general you would recommend?

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2897309]Good informative post. Does anyone know about Paragon. I mean where is it and how good is it. Comparable to classic, or not! Has anyone visited.[/QUOTE]Not sure if this is what he is referring to. Grand Paragon Hotel is a mall / hotel on Jalan Gajah Mada near Mangga Besar. It is slightly south of where Mangga Besar ends on Gajah Mada. It's directly north of Malio Hotel on the same side of the road. It apparently has a KTV. But I have never heard of it as a place to find ladies, unless someone else has info on this.

Visited Jakarta from Feb 23rd to 26th. Thanks to one ISG member for the openhearted support and information on my trip.

Stayed two nights in Millenium hotel. Invited a Freelancer to room as soon as I reached hotel. Freelancers are always angels in photos. Discussed lot of times here. Photoshop image editing softwares can change me to Brad Pitt. So don't beleive fully on photos. If you have time go for a video chat and try a paid dating also if you are on freelancers. Video chat itself won't reveal the correct figure or wheather she is having halitosis too. He he.

Freelancers from bars was good. I talked with them collected their digits and next day chatted with them and invited to room.

My experience with the first girl was above average. Indo girls always enjoy sex if it is first in the day. My school of thought.

After that in the evening I went to KG and visited King Cross, Sumo and MRT2. Spend more time in King Cross and it is the best club in KP. Go to the 5th floor. Sumo is mainly Spa so the main action is on day time not worth going night. MRT 2 is a waste of time even if the entry is free.

Then I took a grab taxi to BATS. It was a Friday evening. Its packed with ladies in 30's and speak Englis. Food and drink not that expensive if you plan the buy. Ambience is great. Can chat with girls and collect numbers. They won't force for drinks. But I paid them tips for spending time with me. Came back hotel at 3 in the morning. Jakarta is awesome in my first days experience.

Morning after breakfast I invited another freelancer. She was 30%less accurate than the photo. Speak okay English. I love mating after breakfast. Old habit. She was good in bed. Not at all hurry. Spent 2 hours with me. Most of the Freelancers I gave 1 juta plus 200 K Taxi. But the ladies from bars are more expensive as they think they are branded.

After the session I visites Classic spa and spend one hour in sauna and Jacuzzi. Didn't pick any girl. As usual went to Johny Steak nearby and had Siriloin. Evening plan was to go to CJS.

CJs report follows. Texting between work.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2897650]Just got back from my second trip to Jakarta. Way cheaper, unspoiled girls without tats and fake boobs, most girls in the 19-22 age range, and 100% BBFS all for about about 1200 Baht. Including room and very generous tip. 1000 Baht is the base price for a threesome but add in a nice tip to get BBFS its still only 2000 Baht or so. And not a single girl will turn you down either, no matter where you are from. And they don't work for drinks although they will sit with you for a bit if you want before you take them to the room.[/QUOTE]Is that true of most places in Jakarta?

CJ Bar Mullia is a great location for mongers ifyou have a fat Wallet. Half of the girls are good looking and young. They all speak English. Post covid they set an agenda that youug and good looking girls will come with you for around 3 Juta and Older around 2 plus Juta. They told me that they won't get much clients these days but still sticking on that projected fare. Cjs is sophisticated compared to BATS, but my personal opinion BATS is having a closeness and easy to pick. I got a middle aged lady to sleep with me on the condition that only one session in the morning. I stick on 1,5 Juta and she agreed as it was 1 in the morning. My experience was not good as she is having implant boobs. Morning she took my flippers as to hide her high heeled to the public on day time, he he.

Altogether the second day experience was that not good as expected to be. Anyway in mongering up and down always happen but don't carry it. My mistake, if would have selected a girl around 2 juta, my night would have been better.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2897223]I was in Jakarta for a week and had a great time at my usual haunts. The last day though turned out to be probably the worst day of the trip.


Also had a great massage with a beauty, and in the end I thought it was legit, ready to dress and leave when I was pleasantly shocked when she asked if I'd like additional services. She started by offering only HJ for a 600 tip, but I teased the situation and told her I'd really like a BBBJ. Was certain she was going to tell me no, but surprised me when she said 1 M. Of course, I play around and tell her that for 1 M, I could get FJ and she bounced back asking if I wanted FJ which would cost me 1. 5 M. At least we're talking here right? She was pretty beyond belief and I was surprised we even got to this point because I was certain that after the massage, I was leaving. So I caved for the 1. 5 M FJ. During the foreplay and B2 B and BBBJ, I slid into her bare and she responded 2 M. LOL. Maybe she wasn't as conservative as I had thought. Ended up 2. 4 M out the door for a 1 HR great massage plus 45 minute incredible BBBJ BBFJ session. It was expensive, but really by how much? 1 M? I walked off the heavy price tag.

But yes, the other 6 nights before that last night were incredible. Love this city, culture, people, economy.[/QUOTE]Is there a reason you don't say which venue this was?

[QUOTE=Thampi62;2897815]CJ Bar Mullia is a great location for mongers ifyou have a fat Wallet. Half of the girls are good looking and young. They all speak English. Post covid they set an agenda that youug and good looking girls will come with you for around 3 Juta and Older around 2 plus Juta. They told me that they won't get much clients these days but still sticking on that projected fare. Cjs is sophisticated compared to BATS, but my personal opinion BATS is having a closeness and easy to pick. I got a middle aged lady to sleep with me on the condition that only one session in the morning. I stick on 1,5 Juta and she agreed as it was 1 in the morning. My experience was not good as she is having implant boobs. Morning she took my flippers as to hide her high heeled to the public on day time, he he.

Altogether the second day experience was that not good as expected to be. Anyway in mongering up and down always happen but don't carry it. My mistake, if would have selected a girl around 2 juta, my night would have been better.[/QUOTE]I have been going to CJs lately only because I like the place and the band. I know quite a few of the girls from years gone by, but I refuse to give them 3 million or even 2 million. So I go home alone every night when I do visit CJs. If we all stopped giving them that kind of money, their prices will drop.

BATS is the same as CJS, just more laid back. I kind of like that semi chubby lead singer in the band there. She has a sexy edge. But again, I have taken zero girls home from there lately.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2897848]Is there a reason you don't say which venue this was?[/QUOTE]It's a legit western namebrand hotel with legit spa. Not wanting to publicize the place. In previous posts where people talked about which hotel spas they got action from, this subject matter may have been teased. But the reality is that a bunch of horny guys raiding one particular boutique hotel hoping to get a cute masseuse go back on them can get messy for the name brand as well as the result if the hunt suddenly gets ymmv.

Hi Guys.

If you go to any spa or mall or bars you can collect digits after meeting them. If they are okay to come back to your room get it. Personalising things won't have much benefit in Jakarta. Lot of girls all around. Open your eyes try. If you are lucky, you will get it. Otherwise simple, go to Classic.

Hi all. It's my first time to Jakarta so I am exploring the different venues (staying at Classic Hotel for simplicity and proximity to Terminal 2 and Bunker Club). I've got about a week so I am trying to hit all of the buzzwords (Classic, Travel, Emporium, Malio, Kota Indah, Lokasari, etc.). I'm sticking to North Jakarta mostly due to economy of time since I'm not here long (trying to minimize the longer Grab rides). So I was running around Kota Indah last night and decided to go to the 1001 Colosseum Club, I was curious about tales of the higher end talent, LOL. That said, when I got there I walked in to a very nice, but relatively dead normal club. Lights twirling and DJ playing to a small crowd sitting at tables in the middle of a cavernous club hall. There were almost as many attendants as guests. Plus no beautiful women trying to catch the eye of a plump semicentenarian like myself, which I must say was disappointing, LOL.

So the question is, did I miss something? Maybe there are multiple clubs, a normal one and one that is a little more frisky, and maybe I went in the wrong door (I went in the one surrounded with red lights and fixtures which seemed like a good sign). Is there a secret handshake that I didn't know about? Maybe it is just a normal club, and the posts were just talking about the normal girls that go who may be open to some play if you have a little game. I tried to probe some of the attendants to see if I was in the wrong place but no luck.

It was certainly ok regardless, the cover was only 100 k and it included one beverage, so it was worth that to look around as it is a nice club and probably hopping when they have a show, but not really my vibe. Any thoughts as to whether this club is just not what I thought it was (I thought it perhaps would be like a dance club and Malio had an illegitimate love child), or if I just missed the boat and didn't go to the right area?

Also, I'm here through Wednesday. I've tried to distill the forum to find the more interesting places to go, but if you have any specific recommendations, I would love to hear them. And hit me up if you are here in Jakarta and looking for a wingman!

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2898015]I have been going to CJs lately only because I like the place and the band. I know quite a few of the girls from years gone by, but I refuse to give them 3 million or even 2 million. So I go home alone every night when I do visit CJs. If we all stopped giving them that kind of money, their prices will drop.

BATS is the same as CJS, just more laid back. I kind of like that semi chubby lead singer in the band there. She has a sexy edge. But again, I have taken zero girls home from there lately.[/QUOTE]I hate the FL price inflation as much as you do, but what do you expect from a pick-up bar located on the 2nd floor of the Hotel Mulia Senayan? Pre covid the girls wanted 2 mil. Anyway, you are a better man than me. I was never able to walk out of there without taking a girl. 555. I assume you have the numbers of many of the girls you knew from days gone by. The only reason to go there now is to look for new talent and new numbers.

Bats is smaller but good too. I never saw much of a price difference between the girls at the two bars, however.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2898242]I hate the FL price inflation as much as you do, but what do you expect from a pick-up bar located on the 2nd floor of the Hotel Mulia Senayan? Pre covid the girls wanted 2 mil. Anyway, you are a better man than me. I was never able to walk out of there without taking a girl. 555. I assume you have the numbers of many of the girls you knew from days gone by. The only reason to go there now is to look for new talent and new numbers.

Bats is smaller but good too. I never saw much of a price difference between the girls at the two bars, however.[/QUOTE]In bar the ladies will demand more. Get the digits and call them for a day meeting in week days can get them. Once she is in your list, her friends will also follow. My school of thought. And in Jakarta that chain will work.

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2898025]My first visit to Indonesia and clearly this is hidden gem in Asia for mongering. Girls are super friendly and are easily available almost everywhere. I was talking to the bartender / cashier at the hotel and within 5 minutes I had her whatsapp and was able to make plans. Classic was just as everybody mentioned here. Pretty decent selection and should I say pretty cheap for a 90 minute session with two beauties. The best I thought was SA. The quality there (once you weed out the workers) was just downright phenomenal. Varying PPM / arrangements but SA worked in Yogyakarta, Jakarta and Bali with extreme success. I felt for the first time SA was worth every dollar that I spent for this visit. I tried Devozki as well and that was pretty good also. Overall, a great visit. Looking forward to going there again real soon.[/QUOTE]Tried to read through the forum to find out. What is SA please?

Appreciate.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2898328]Tried to read through the forum to find out. What is SA please?

Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement. Never tried it but in theory it is a good idea. Kind of expensive, I think.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2898328]Tried to read through the forum to find out. What is SA please?

Appreciate.[/QUOTE]Seeking arrangement.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2898328]Tried to read through the forum to find out. What is SA please?

Appreciate.[/QUOTE]SA = Seeking Arrangement. [URL]www.seeking.com[/URL]. Best place to hookup if you like real girls or semi pros and dinner and romance in addition to sex. It can be amazing if you spend the time.

Go to this thread. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements[/URL].

Look for my posts over the last few weeks to see just how good it can be.

[QUOTE=RedZork;2898183]That said, when I got there I walked in to a very nice, but relatively dead normal club. Lights twirling and DJ playing to a small crowd sitting at tables in the middle of a cavernous club hall. There were almost as many attendants as guests. Plus no beautiful women trying to catch the eye of a plump semicentenarian like myself, which I must say was disappointing, LOL.

So the question is, did I miss something? Maybe there are multiple clubs, a normal one and one that is a little more frisky, and maybe I went in the wrong door (I went in the one surrounded with red lights and fixtures which seemed like a good sign). Is there a secret handshake that I didn't know about? Maybe it is just a normal club, and the posts were just talking about the normal girls that go who may be open to some play if you have a little game. I tried to probe some of the attendants to see if I was in the wrong place but no luck.
[/QUOTE]I messaged someone who went there regarding this but didn't get a clear answer. I'm wondering if there's a separate entrance or floor at 1001 Colosseum. Can anyone who's been there clarify? Thanks.

[QUOTE=RedZork;2898183]I'm sticking to North Jakarta mostly due to economy of time since I'm not here long (trying to minimize the longer Grab rides). So I was running around Kota Indah last night and decided to go to the 1001 Colosseum Club, I was curious about tales of the higher end talent, LOL. [/QUOTE]What did you read? What were you expecting?

There's a spa and KTV in 1001.

I think you went through the wrong door, 1001 has a very nice pool area. Ask the receptionist for that area, over 80-100 girls for selection when I was there, great talent and international selection is even better. For more details read my review for the place. Its a must visit in my view.

[QUOTE=RedZork;2898183]Hi all. It's my first time to Jakarta so I am exploring the different venues (staying at Classic Hotel for simplicity and proximity to Terminal 2 and Bunker Club). I've got about a week so I am trying to hit all of the buzzwords (Classic, Travel, Emporium, Malio, Kota Indah, Lokasari, etc.). I'm sticking to North Jakarta mostly due to economy of time since I'm not here long (trying to minimize the longer Grab rides). So I was running around Kota Indah last night and decided to go to the 1001 Colosseum Club, I was curious about tales of the higher end talent, LOL. That said, when I got there I walked in to a very nice, but relatively dead normal club. Lights twirling and DJ playing to a small crowd sitting at tables in the middle of a cavernous club hall. There were almost as many attendants as guests. Plus no beautiful women trying to catch the eye of a plump semicentenarian like myself, which I must say was disappointing, LOL.

So the question is, did I miss something? Maybe there are multiple clubs, a normal one and one that is a little more frisky, and maybe I went in the wrong door (I went in the one surrounded with red lights and fixtures which seemed like a good sign). Is there a secret handshake that I didn't know about? Maybe it is just a normal club, and the posts were just talking about the normal girls that go who may be open to some play if you have a little game. I tried to probe some of the attendants to see if I was in the wrong place but no luck.

It was certainly ok regardless, the cover was only 100 k and it included one beverage, so it was worth that to look around as it is a nice club and probably hopping when they have a show, but not really my vibe. Any thoughts as to whether this club is just not what I thought it was (I thought it perhaps would be like a dance club and Malio had an illegitimate love child), or if I just missed the boat and didn't go to the right area?

Also, I'm here through Wednesday. I've tried to distill the forum to find the more interesting places to go, but if you have any specific recommendations, I would love to hear them. And hit me up if you are here in Jakarta and looking for a wingman![/QUOTE]

1001 has various places to go to, but I recommend pool area. Its awesome over 80 girls easily and all top draw, international selection is kick ass and even better. 1001 pool is fabulous not for money savers. Punters can enjoy a private time with the girls in the cabanas and draw the curtains enjoy 30 minutes and then take her to the private room for another 60. This place is very high on my list, for more details read my review from January 2024.

[QUOTE=Grebe925;2898373]I messaged someone who went there regarding this but didn't get a clear answer. I'm wondering if there's a separate entrance or floor at 1001 Colosseum. Can anyone who's been there clarify? Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2898025]My first visit to Indonesia and clearly this is hidden gem in Asia for mongering. Girls are super friendly and are easily available almost everywhere. I was talking to the bartender / cashier at the hotel and within 5 minutes I had her whatsapp and was able to make plans. Classic was just as everybody mentioned here. Pretty decent selection and should I say pretty cheap for a 90 minute session with two beauties. The best I thought was SA. The quality there (once you weed out the workers) was just downright phenomenal. Varying PPM / arrangements but SA worked in Yogyakarta, Jakarta and Bali with extreme success. I felt for the first time SA was worth every dollar that I spent for this visit. I tried Devozki as well and that was pretty good also. Overall, a great visit. Looking forward to going there again real soon.[/QUOTE]Its going to be my first time in Indonesia & also my first time mongering since COVID. I already booked my holiday & tickets and only recently realised its going to be Ramadan while I am in Jakarta. So things are not off to a great start. Booked my first 5 nights staying at Holiday Inn GM - but I don't know if the usual places mentioned on this forum. Classic / Travel / Mali / BATS will be open during the holy month.

I am glad your 1st visit turned out to be memorable. Would appreciate if you elaborate a bit more about your SA encounters. Average time you booked them for / average cost. I understand that from a price point YPMV just as YMMV but still just a ball park figure would be great. As I am not keen on overpaying or giving a low ball quote and get them offended. I always tip on good service too.

BTW, I sent you a DM. Help a bro out. LOL.

First time visiting Jakarta as a last minute addition to trip I had planned to the Phillipines at minimal additonal cost. Spent 2. 5 days which sort of wasn't enough but same time was.

Maybe it was because of the time of day (noon) but flew through immigration / customs and took a taxi to the Holiday Inn & Suites Jakarta Gajah Mada, the hotel was decent for the price. A bit tired and my non smoking room stenched like ciggertes maybe from before or from another room. I found that's the case everywhere in Indonesia and they make it worse by masking it with artificial air freshener. The staff were excellent and lots off food options nearby and central to most things.

I quickly showered and headed to Classic around 2-3 pm to check it out. Went to the second floor there were maybe about 30 girls all young most decent but majority looking on their phones and disinterested. Ended up picking one on reccomendation of mama, brand new 7 days at classic, young cute dmage 375,000 K. TBH it was sorta crap, nothing special probably because she was new and young but got the job done and didn't kill the wallet. I knew from before going Classic wasnt the place for me. I also went back on my last day to try the spa which was good. Went for a massage, with number 17 excellent massage, took the he for too much but she gave a fantastic massage and actually did a bit of edging and took a while for the release instead of hitting it like a jack hammer trying to get you of ASAP. Highly recommend Number 17 and the spa at least once.

My first night I was introduced to a girl from a fourm member who spoke english, an exotic looking and general sweetheart. First night set some high expectations for the rest of my trip which were all met by the majority of Indonesian girls.

My next two girls were pulls of tinder, Seylen a divorced super horny 37 year old which again blew my mind. She was a bit bigger but not fat had great set of tits. I tried to repeat but ran out of time. Next was Frida 34 kg soaking wet, she too was a pleasure. All spoke decent english, all were super passionate and all seemed to genuinely enjoy the experience. Damage was 1,000,000 to 1,200,000 rupiah. A bargin for what you got. I was trying to explain to them ISG and if they were ok with sharing info but most wanted to see photos first. So if you find a Frida last 4 digits phone number 3019 or Seyln 1988 on tinder you won't be disappointed.

Now in Phillipipines and Indonesian girls are far superior, only downside is Jakarta is dirty and boring. The only non mongering thing I did was check of Cafe Batavia which was super cool and had great food. I would still go back.

Thank you all members for the info, otherwise I would have been totally lost where to go.

Went to Classic, on Saturday, it wasn't the best selection but picked up a cutie Tiaa, beautiful body. For some reason for BJ, she soaked up tissue with listerine and wiped it on my tools. Not sure if this is normal practice here as no one has mentioned this here. But this maybe the reason I finished quick. Shame, would have wanted to have played with her a bit longer.

Later this night hit up Malio. I went there for the experience and I did enjoy it I must say. Bought some lady drinks and they sit on lap and dance. I think I will go again.

Yesterday, I tried out sugar spa, this was disappointing as chose the BJ package, and she keep saying take too long. Massage was not the best as well. So was a crappy* experience from a spa.

Yesterday, was tired so stayed in hotel as my sleep routine is totally messed up.

I have 2 more nights. Not sure where to head to. Hoping to check out Kings Cross.

RedZork, I will be here for 2 more nights, if you want to hangout. It sucks going alone when you are in a new place. Whereas, Thailand I have no problem.

Thank you all members for the info, otherwise I would have been totally lost where to go.

Went to Classic, on Saturday, it wasn't the best selection but picked up a cutie Tiaa, beautiful body. For some reason for BJ, she soaked up tissue with listerine and wiped it on my tools. Not sure if this is normal practice here as no one has mentioned this here. But this maybe the reason I finished quick. Shame, would have wanted to have played with her a bit longer.

Later this night hit up Malio. I went there for the experience and I did enjoy it I must say. Bought some lady drinks and they sit on lap and dance. I think I will go again.

Yesterday, I tried out sugar spa, this was disappointing as chose the BJ package, and she keep saying take too long. Massage was not the best as well. So was a crappy* experience from a spa.

This night, was tired so stayed in hotel as my sleep routine is totally messed up.

I have 2 more nights. Not sure where to head to. Hoping to check out Kings Cross.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2898374]What did you read? What were you expecting?
Theres a spa and KTV in 1001 .[/QUOTE]I wasn't really sure, but I wasn't expecting to find a dead nightclub, LOL. I had read that there were higher end local girls and this was the place to find international (eastern European or Kazakh girls) with with prices 1 k=3 k and higher maybe for the foreign girls. So I was hoping for some good I candy and maybe a girl that caught my interest enough to splurge, LOL.

I just noted that as a new unpaid member I don't have access to PM (and no personal info can be posted), LOL. I'm here until Thursday morning though and my time is very flexible. Just list a time and location out and I can meet you out. Better yet, I'm staying at Classic Hotel, so if you want to swing by there, just post a time and I can meet you in the lobby by the escalators to T2 to say Hi.

[QUOTE=Roo007;2898399]Thank you all members for the info, otherwise I would have been totally lost where to go.

Went to Classic, on Saturday, it wasn't the best selection but picked up a cutie Tiaa, beautiful body. For some reason for BJ, she soaked up tissue with listerine and wiped it on my tools. Not sure if this is normal practice here as no one has mentioned this here. But this maybe the reason I finished quick. Shame, would have wanted to have played with her a bit longer.

Later this night hit up Malio. I went there for the experience and I did enjoy it I must say. Bought some lady drinks and they sit on lap and dance. I think I will go again.

Yesterday, I tried out sugar spa, this was disappointing as chose the BJ package, and she keep saying take too long. Massage was not the best as well. So was a crappy* experience from a spa..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2898385]1001 has various places to go to, but I recommend pool area. Its awesome over 80 girls easily and all top draw, international selection is kick ass and even better. 1001 pool is fabulous not for money savers. Punters can enjoy a private time with the girls in the cabanas and draw the curtains enjoy 30 minutes and then take her to the private room for another 60. This place is very high on my list, for more details read my review from January 2024.[/QUOTE]OK, I get it now. I'll look for the pool area. Thanks a lot.

Hi,

My company will organize a several-day convention in Jakarta next month, and it will be my 1st time in Indonesia.

I have read lots of posts from this thread and I'd really like to try the treasures there.

But my time alone will be quite short:

I am the only one from my country (Eastern Europe), and will arrive 1st, in the evening (9. 30 PM at the airport). The company will pick me up with the 1st colleagues the next morning at the airport.

I assume the "usual places" in the center like Classic are not reasonably reachable within this short time (I will also have to sleep a bit, indeed).

So, do you think it is possible / easy to find girls if I stay close to the airport? Any recommendation (hotel / girls) is welcome.

[QUOTE=Mmroz;2898572]Hi,

My company will organize a several-day convention in Jakarta next month, and it will be my 1st time in Indonesia.

I have read lots of posts from this thread and I'd really like to try the treasures there.

But my time alone will be quite short:

I am the only one from my country (Eastern Europe), and will arrive 1st, in the evening (9. 30 PM at the airport). The company will pick me up with the 1st colleagues the next morning at the airport.

I assume the "usual places" in the center like Classic are not reasonably reachable within this short time (I will also have to sleep a bit, indeed).

So, do you think it is possible / easy to find girls if I stay close to the airport? Any recommendation (hotel / girls) is welcome.[/QUOTE]I agree that I don't think you have any real opportunity to hit the typical spots. The places are open late but you would not get much sleep. Certainly you could have a girl go to your hotel using smooci. Since you have a month to plan you could also start talking to girls on Tinder and very likely set up a date for a girl to come to your hotel. This may allow you to get to bed by 1 am which may be acceptable. Others may be able to comment if there are any other options close to the airport.

What you should actually do is see how you can leverage a modified trip with your company.

I don't know your travel time but assume it will be 10 hrs or more (perhaps a lot more if there is a layover), thus is a reasonable ask to fly out the next morning and not in the evening after your meeting. Having someone fly 10+ hours get a little sleep, attend an all day meeting, then immediately fly out for another 10+ hrs is generally not a reasonable request. I did it early in my career but would never do it nowadays. So you may be able to respectfully negotiate a later return date, then you would be able to enjoy at least one full evening. It never hurts to ask! I found that as soon as I was brave enough to ask, companies / managers were generally ok to make the change.

Even if that doesn't work, you may be able to request an extension of the trip at your cost, just because you have never been to Indonesia and would like to explore a bit. If the meeting is on a Monday or Friday, you can fly in early a day or leave late a day so that you have an extra day on the weekend (no need to take a vacation day). As long as you personally pay for the hotel and food on that day, it generally is no extra cost to the company to change the travel date, and most companies would be happy to alter the booking. Same thing applies during the week but you may have to take a vacation day since the extra day is personal time.

So you probably have an option for some sort of outcall to your hotel, but you have a month, maybe you can alter the trip a little so you can more completely enjoy the trip!

How much for pool girls at 1001 ?

Appreciate.

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2898395]Its going to be my first time in Indonesia & also my first time mongering since COVID. I already booked my holiday & tickets and only recently realised its going to be Ramadan while I am in Jakarta. So things are not off to a great start. Booked my first 5 nights staying at Holiday Inn GM - but I don't know if the usual places mentioned on this forum. Classic / Travel / Mali / BATS will be open during the holy month.

I am glad your 1st visit turned out to be memorable. Would appreciate if you elaborate a bit more about your SA encounters. Average time you booked them for / average cost. I understand that from a price point YPMV just as YMMV but still just a ball park figure would be great. As I am not keen on overpaying or giving a low ball quote and get them offended. I always tip on good service too.

BTW, I sent you a DM. Help a bro out. LOL.[/QUOTE]Need not worry, I did the same a couple years ago and seemed fine except for the first couple of days in the beginning and the last couple of days at the end of Ramandan. I don't drink alcohol so don't know if that was restricted at the bars you mention.

The Holiday Inn GM is great location for my interests, and allow "guests" as I've seen them at the breakfast buffet.

Have a great time!

[QUOTE=Punter6996;2898395]Its going to be my first time in Indonesia & also my first time mongering since COVID. I already booked my holiday & tickets and only recently realised its going to be Ramadan while I am in Jakarta. So things are not off to a great start. Booked my first 5 nights staying at Holiday Inn GM - but I don't know if the usual places mentioned on this forum. Classic / Travel / Mali / BATS will be open during the holy month.

I am glad your 1st visit turned out to be memorable. Would appreciate if you elaborate a bit more about your SA encounters. Average time you booked them for / average cost. I understand that from a price point YPMV just as YMMV but still just a ball park figure would be great. As I am not keen on overpaying or giving a low ball quote and get them offended. I always tip on good service too.

BTW, I sent you a DM. Help a bro out. LOL.[/QUOTE]I've been in Jakarta a few times over Ramadan, but that was a few years ago, think I have a post in here about it. If memory serves me right. The middle day of the month (15 days in) is shut down for everything. Also, BATS ran in a "subdued" mode. No band, a lot more light and just background music. There where still girls around, but not as many. Do a search thru my posts and you may find something relevant. Now that was probably 10 years ago but I doubt things have got much better.

Pretty common scenario in Indonesia, Malaysia and in Philippines to a degree. Sometimes they would wipe their lips and tongue if they taste salty precum. Don't get offended. Some girls definitely do and some don't.

Sugar, Pablo, Twin can be hit-and-miss sometimes.

[QUOTE=Roo007;2898420]Thank you all members for the info, otherwise I would have been totally lost where to go.

Went to Classic, on Saturday, it wasn't the best selection but picked up a cutie Tiaa, beautiful body. For some reason for BJ, she soaked up tissue with listerine and wiped it on my tools. Not sure if this is normal practice here as no one has mentioned this here. But this maybe the reason I finished quick. Shame, would have wanted to have played with her a bit longer.

Later this night hit up Malio. I went there for the experience and I did enjoy it I must say. Bought some lady drinks and they sit on lap and dance. I think I will go again.

Yesterday, I tried out sugar spa, this was disappointing as chose the BJ package, and she keep saying take too long. Massage was not the best as well. So was a crappy* experience from a spa.

This night, was tired so stayed in hotel as my sleep routine is totally messed up.

I have 2 more nights. Not sure where to head to. Hoping to check out Kings Cross.[/QUOTE]

NI. Long time! Pool side ranges between 800 to 3 mil. Depending on what you fancy and how many Do check out KC.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2898713]How much for pool girls at 1001 ?

Appreciate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YngMong;2898397]
Maybe it was because of the time of day (noon) but flew through immigration / customs and took a taxi to the Holiday Inn & Suites Jakarta Gajah Mada, the hotel was decent for the price. A bit tired and my non smoking room stenched like ciggertes maybe from before or from another room. I found that's the case everywhere in Indonesia and they make it worse by masking it with artificial air freshener. The staff were excellent and lots off food options nearby and central to most things.
[/QUOTE]The smell of burning cigarette smoke hits your nose literally the second you step off the airplane in Jakarta. I have found it is difficult to get true non-smoking rooms the few times I have stayed in budget to mid-range hotels. I cannot sleep well in those rooms so that is my only requirement for my short trips to Jakarta. I found a non smoking family hotel walking distance from Classic on my last trip, Pop Hotel Pasar Baru. It's basic but clean and really is a non smoking hotel, they go so far as to post smoking statistical health facts on the walls. You could still bring a girl there but not sure you would want to do so in such a simple and unadorned place.

Overall I love this place. Very convenient, decent and stocked well. The quality is a bit lacking but that is everywhere in the world now a days.

One thing I could not figure out if it is possible to approach girl you like, directly, and ask her about services or must haves such as DFK etc. The first girl I had was a dud, provided express service of 20 minutes and truth be told, I just wanted to get the deed done as I was pissed off at her lack of interest in service. The others were fantastic even though langage was a barrier.

So, can someone please advise me how you go about scoping out the best girl for your requirements? Do you talk to them or let those pushy mamasans do the talking?

[QUOTE=Margaya;2899832]One thing I could not figure out if it is possible to approach girl you like, directly, and ask her about services or must haves such as DFK etc. [/QUOTE]Approach the girl you want. Ask her who her Mamasan is. Confirm through the Mamasan she will do DFK or what you are looking for. Mamasan will confirm with the girl. Look at the girl's facial reaction when Mama asks her. That will be more telling than what Mama tells you. If Mama says she will DFK it may not be the same DFK as your definition of DFK so clarify with Mama exactly what you seek. If the girl doesn't do kissing at least you have someone to ***** to after. May not matter if they don't know who you are though. I find Mamas at Classic pretty decent except for 1 or 2. Find one or three you get along with.

I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.

Thanks Vendelo.

I have doing the SA-ing for 2-3 x per year since the 2022. I see the rates have been going up since the few years ago. I hear there was a social media story going aroudn few years ago that a lass getting 1st class treatment, so more women joined with crazys expecations. Ruined for all of us. Before I was getting 8-9's. Now its mostly 6-7's. But I still prefer SA then tinder or hooker pick ups. I am very into GFE. And usually not disappointed with my SA expereinces.

I mostly do short term ppm. My sweet spot is $150-$250 USD. Not sure what is Rupiah. For 2-3 hours of fun. There are models and actress on that site, but they go for much more money and usually with politicians or businessmen. I heard same about the Singaporeans and China as well. They pay well, but absolutely jersks. Also many lot of Japanese biz man, but they are friendlyer. I look like I am in my 30's, so maybe that is helping me.

I also noticed that a lot of the good looking SA girls in Jakarta are going to Singapore or Dubai for weekend trips. They make more money. They find rich guys there who fly them out for weekend.

Sadly the rich boys are ruining everything for us. One tip, with new fast train, you can check Bandung. Its a college town and lots of beauty women. They can be in Jakarta in an hour.

Good lucks.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2899770]NI. Long time! Pool side ranges between 800 to 3 mil. Depending on what you fancy and how many Do check out KC.[/QUOTE]Excuse my ignorance and thankyou for your assistance.

NI.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2899852]Approach the girl you want. Ask her who her Mamasan is. Confirm through the Mamasan she will do DFK or what you are looking for. Mamasan will confirm with the girl. Look at the girl's facial reaction when Mama asks her. That will be more telling than what Mama tells you. If Mama says she will DFK it may not be the same DFK as your definition of DFK so clarify with Mama exactly what you seek. If the girl doesn't do kissing at least you have someone to ***** to after. May not matter if they don't know who you are though. I find Mamas at Classic pretty decent except for 1 or 2. Find one or three you get along with.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the smart reply banana boi. Excellent tips. Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]Sounds too expensive for Jakarta.

But hard to gauge without photos.

All good pal. King Cross.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2899976]Excuse my ignorance and thankyou for your assistance.

NI.[/QUOTE]

Here is my equation to bag of potatoes.

A bag of potato cost $5 at Walmart. You can buy the same bag of potatoes at an organic grocery store for $15 and at a wholesale for $2.

Just like any other online places, every thing is hyped up and overpriced. Initially SA was all about non-pro but as time passes, non-pro became pro and so it goes. Girls that used to quote 1 mil and settle for 700/800 are easily quoting 3 mil now.

Back to bag of potato equation, depends on what you like and how much you want to spend for it. Unsure if 2 k for each girl or for both? Needless to say, meals and accommodations are on you.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IrishMongrel;2899142]I've been in Jakarta a few times over Ramadan, but that was a few years ago, think I have a post in here about it. If memory serves me right. The middle day of the month (15 days in) is shut down for everything. Also, BATS ran in a "subdued" mode. No band, a lot more light and just background music. There where still girls around, but not as many. Do a search thru my posts and you may find something relevant. Now that was probably 10 years ago but I doubt things have got much better.[/QUOTE]I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it.

Bit titty Putri was there, and I hadn't seen her in over 10 years. The last time I took her (10 years ago), she copped an attitude when I got her home and was a crap shag that night so I deleted her phone number. But 20 years ago, she was a young stunner dancing on top of the LE Meridien bar table tops. Crazy as hell and wild in bed. She would shag all night back then. Then in the morning give a blow job while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone. She thought that was hilarious. And I didn't mind it. Although she still has the big tits, they are saggier now and her body is like 3 times the size as it was back in the day. She went home alone. Glory days have passed her by. I certainly wasn't interested in her or any other girl in BATS that night. I didn't see any that I would have taken home even for 500 k.

CJs was a different story. I was shocked at the quality there last night. There were, of course, the same old group of 5 out of 10 rated girls there (with a few 6's). But other than those mediocre ladies, I haven't seen that many stunners in CJs in a very long time. There were 4 stunners in there. That's as many as I have seen in CJs. Ever. 2 of them I would rate as 9's (I have never seen a 10 in Indonesia). 9 is a true stunner. There was one girl I couldn't take my eyes off of. What a true beauty. Unfortunately, I had brought a date with me and couldn't take my shot. I am a gentleman, after all. But I have no doubt those girls were going to ask for at least 3 million. It's very hard to find that quality in Jakarta. I'm not saying CJs will be like that again any time soon, but that night had some real talent. One thing I will mention is I didn't see any of those girls going home with any guy. They were completely ignoring the Indian guys who approached them. And only 1 of them stayed more than a half hour. The other 3 came in together and all left together after a short look around. When I walked by them though, they did give me positive gestures. I would have been curious how I would have fared. The one true beauty, I may have even been tempted to actually go 3 million. I can't believe I am saying that. Other than those 4 girls, the others didn't deserve more than 800 k, but since they paid 200 k for an entry drink, I guess 1 juta is fair. (In my humble opinion.) But it's all about the experience.

I still don't get why some guys do Deep French Kissing with a brothel girl. Those girls rim at least 5 asses a day, most more.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]$2000 . Calling absolute BS on that. Even the most lecherous gold-digging women in all of Asia aren't dumb enough to ask for that kind of money. The monthly allowance is equally absurd. Quite CLEARLY you have never been to Jakarta.

Papasan at the place where Kartika used to be, near the Suisse Bakery, just around the corner from the Gajah Mada / Mangga Besar intersection, tells me that they will be closed for three days, from today or tomorrow, for the beginning of Ramadhan. Then, he says, business as usual until some as yet undetermined time before Lebaran. I guess a lot of similar places will apply the same rules.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2899984]Sounds too expensive for Jakarta.

But hard to gauge without photos.[/QUOTE]They are trying their luck. Negotiate. Start at 1/4 price at most.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;2900091]Papasan at the place where Kartika used to be, near the Suisse Bakery, just around the corner from the Gajah Mada / Mangga Besar intersection, tells me that they will be closed for three days, from today or tomorrow, for the beginning of Ramadhan. Then, he says, business as usual until some as yet undetermined time before Lebaran. I guess a lot of similar places will apply the same rules.[/QUOTE]Liburan (vacation). They take off for 1 to 2 weeks for Idul Fitri / Eid Al Fitr and return to their desa (village).

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2900058]$2000 . Calling absolute BS on that. Even the most lecherous gold-digging women in all of Asia aren't dumb enough to ask for that kind of money. The monthly allowance is equally absurd. Quite CLEARLY you have never been to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]There's different rates for everyone.

A) There will be young 18 year old girls that have no idea what the world is like, stuck with no income, and family has mounting bills. They're stuck with debt at KI, KC, Classic and every month, that debt gets worse or barely gets reduced. You can sugar them for 6 M per month to get them out of the industry and if you take care of yourself, decent and fun attitude, you're golden.

B) Then there are the girls that ask EVERY foreigner to be their daddy hoping that one person (or more than one) will be dumb enough to send them a monthly allowance while they're still working the freelance job because they need 10 M+ per month.

C) Then there are the girls that look like models, think they're hot shit, and want enough sugar to shop at the Gucci store and basically think they're worth Western sugar. In this case 30 M+ per month.

Sounds like you found a Category C).

I wouldn't worry too much about the Singaporeans and Mainland China dudes messing up your game in Jakarta. The numbers are way too big and the few guys that are doing that might have taken a few dozen or even a few hundred hot girls off the market, but this social economic problem in Indonesia is in the tune of over a million individuals of the female gender, sadly.

[QUOTE=Margaya;2899832]Overall I love this place. Very convenient, decent and stocked well. The quality is a bit lacking but that is everywhere in the world now a days.

One thing I could not figure out if it is possible to approach girl you like, directly, and ask her about services or must haves such as DFK etc. The first girl I had was a dud, provided express service of 20 minutes and truth be told, I just wanted to get the deed done as I was pissed off at her lack of interest in service. The others were fantastic even though langage was a barrier.

So, can someone please advise me how you go about scoping out the best girl for your requirements? Do you talk to them or let those pushy mamasans do the talking?[/QUOTE]I tried this approach and it seldom works. First, the music is so loud that you can barely hear each other even if you're able to speak in bahasa Indo. Second, the MMS can get pushy by getting you into the "Do you want to buy a drink or go upstairs?" situation. And even if you do, the most you'll get out of them is the MMS saying "No baby, good service" as it seems those are always the 4 english words she knows regardless of who she's pointing the laser at and the girl always nods.

The only advice is that when she's not delivering what you want, you just be a gent and be a touch playful. Tell her that you're sad because it's difficult for you to enjoy (this works much better if you learn this phrase in bahasa Indo). The only good thing that can happen at this point is that she replies to you "You tip more?" and she hits you with a 400 k to 500 k request. From there, it's your negotiating skills and really, USD $6. 50 isn't worth my time to lose a good nut. If all else fails, strap on your clothes, drop a 50 k note, and go back to the lounge to look for another girl. Pay the 400 k again and don't sweat it. Really if the USD $26 is a lot, not too sure how to change one's outlook.

Time and time again, the worst decision to be made is to have a session you're not into, blow your load, and then not be horny for the next 12 hours and yet not have had an explosive good time, all because you're worried about saving the fee. Sorry, a good nut is worth more than that to me.

Edit: I read someone else's follow up post about the girls impression, and was reminded that this is also key. When you get the line up, the first thing most guys do is look at the face and body looking for what attracts them. Many times, up in the room, the face ends up losing a point or more because in the light, she's not that pretty or her teeth are jacked up. Many times, up in the room, the body ends up losing a point or more because when the clothes come off, she turns out not to be an 18 year old 90 pound spinner but is really a 24 year old 110 flab hider. But I've found also that the magic in a good time and great service girl is in the line up, looking for the girl that's eye to eye looking at you with a beaming smile. I mean a really radiant smile, nothing like the smile the girls have just to look pretty. The one where she's really really smiling at you and eyes are locked on you, not looking away. Pick that one. Hopefully, you'll find one that's got all three, beautiful face, incredible body, and eye to eye smile on you.

The worst service, almost guaranteed bad time, are the girls that are on their phones not even bothering to look up at you. Those hotties are trouble. They'll burn through your allowance for the night or be expensive on their extra tip ask.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.

1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]Two girls I've messaged that stated 40 M a month.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2900129]I tried this approach and it seldom works. First, the music is so loud that you can barely hear each other even if you're able to speak in bahasa Indo. Second, the MMS can get pushy by getting you into the "Do you want to buy a drink or go upstairs?" situation. And even if you do, the most you'll get out of them is the MMS saying "No baby, good service" as it seems those are always the 4 english words she knows regardless of who she's pointing the laser at and the girl always nods.

The only advice is that when she's not delivering what you want, you just be a gent and be a touch playful. Tell her that you're sad because it's difficult for you to enjoy (this works much better if you learn this phrase in bahasa Indo). The only good thing that can happen at this point is that she replies to you "You tip more?" and she hits you with a 400 k to 500 k request. From there, it's your negotiating skills and really, USD $6. 50 isn't worth my time to lose a good nut. If all else fails, strap on your clothes, drop a 50 k note, and go back to the lounge to look for another girl. Pay the 400 k again and don't sweat it. Really if the USD $26 is a lot, not too sure how to change one's outlook.

Time and time again, the worst decision to be made is to have a session you're not into, blow your load, and then not be horny for the next 12 hours and yet not have had an explosive good time, all because you're worried about saving the fee. Sorry, a good nut is worth more than that to me.

Edit: I read someone else's follow up post about the girls impression, and was reminded that this is also key. When you get the line up, the first thing most guys do is look at the face and body looking for what attracts them. Many times, up in the room, the face ends up losing a point or more because in the light, she's not that pretty or her teeth are jacked up. Many times, up in the room, the body ends up losing a point or more because when the clothes come off, she turns out not to be an 18 year old 90 pound spinner but is really a 24 year old 110 flab hider. But I've found also that the magic in a good time and great service girl is in the line up, looking for the girl that's eye to eye looking at you with a beaming smile. I mean a really radiant smile, nothing like the smile the girls have just to look pretty. The one where she's really really smiling at you and eyes are locked on you, not looking away. Pick that one. Hopefully, you'll find one that's got all three, beautiful face, incredible body, and eye to eye smile on you.

The worst service, almost guaranteed bad time, are the girls that are on their phones not even bothering to look up at you. Those hotties are trouble. They'll burn through your allowance for the night or be expensive on their extra tip ask.[/QUOTE]Good points on how to select a girl. I will just add that the girls that are not that pretty with the jacked up teeth are often the best shags in the whole place because they get fewer customers and appreciate someone taking a chance on them. :-the Some of my best lays in all of Asia were of that type. Total GFE. In contrast, I never, NEVER go with one who can't be arsed to even look up from her phone or just smiles but not really smiles, as you described.

Gents,

I did some RTTF to understand how Jakarta will be during Ramadan. Any one have recent experiences on what to expect? I hearing mix reviews. That the bars, clubs, massage will closed or raided, but also women very looking for money to take back to village. If you can help us with insights will be great. I am mostly a seeking and tinder guy and occational spa.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2900014]I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it.
[/QUOTE]Yep, the two times I have been in BATS post COVID and it's been a bit of a reunion party, and I stopped being a regular there in 2013! Did have a "catch-up" with a lady called Nina on the first visit, she had been a long time regular, even post 2013, when I would fly her to KL for the odd trip and literally hadn't changed that much since I last met her. Was a bit sad to see her still working there as she was a really nice lady, great attitude and actually had some smarts. Seemingly had managed to have a bule relationship for a few years but that fell through and necessity brought her back to the old hunting ground. Probably the same with a lot of them. I walked out empty handed when I was there last, and crazy Rosa was walking in. Fortunately she didn't recognize me, or if she did, I was gone to quickly for her to say anything. She had been a regular for a while, but that didn't end well. For her anyway, got way to clingy and I literally couldn't visit BATS without her making a scene (must be some Thai genes in her).

I absolutely hated CJ's. Stayed in the Mulia but would go to BATS! May give it a look if I get to Jakarta this year.

Was thinking of going in a few weeks, but my free time will probably clash directly with Eid, so will probably hit Thailand instead.

Prices at 1001 pool, local girls are in 2 categories: 1. 2 and 1. 4 while international are at 3. 4, sadly no girls at 800 k.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2899770]NI. Long time! Pool side ranges between 800 to 3 mil. Depending on what you fancy and how many Do check out KC.[/QUOTE]

Before confirming the girl tell / ask mama what you want and make sure she passes on the message to the girl and gets her nod of approval. Not all girls will perform all services, share with mama what you want like BBBJ, DFK, CIM so you have the best experience, a common practice enjoyed by punters, best of luck!

[QUOTE=Margaya;2899832]Overall I love this place. Very convenient, decent and stocked well. The quality is a bit lacking but that is everywhere in the world now a days.

One thing I could not figure out if it is possible to approach girl you like, directly, and ask her about services or must haves such as DFK etc. The first girl I had was a dud, provided express service of 20 minutes and truth be told, I just wanted to get the deed done as I was pissed off at her lack of interest in service. The others were fantastic even though langage was a barrier.

So, can someone please advise me how you go about scoping out the best girl for your requirements? Do you talk to them or let those pushy mamasans do the talking?[/QUOTE]

Great comparison smoothy. My take, world has moved changes alot and what you got 20 years ago you may not get now, and what you get now will be different from what you will get 20 years from now. (if we are still alive, LOL) . Commerce has taken over and girls focus less on service & customer loyalty.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2900014]I went to BATS Friday night and CJs Saturday night. BATS was like a reunion of girls I knew 20 years ago. Haha. It's amazing those same girls are still going at it.

Bit titty Putri was there, and I hadn't seen her in over 10 years. The last time I took her (10 years ago), she copped an attitude when I got her home and was a crap shag that night so I deleted her phone number. But 20 years ago, she was a young stunner dancing on top of the LE Meridien bar table tops. Crazy as hell and wild in bed. She would shag all night back then. Then in the morning give a blow job while talking to her boyfriend on her cell phone. She thought that was hilarious. And I didn't mind it. Although she still has the big tits, they are saggier now and her body is like 3 times the size as it was back in the day. She went home alone. Glory days have passed her by. I certainly wasn't interested in her or any other girl in BATS that night. I didn't see any that I would have taken home even for 500 k.

CJs was a different story. I was shocked at the quality there last night. There were, of course, the same old group of 5 out of 10 rated girls there (with a few 6's). But other than those mediocre ladies, I haven't seen that many stunners in CJs in a very long time. There were 4 stunners in there. That's as many as I have seen in CJs. Ever. 2 of them I would rate as 9's (I have never seen a 10 in Indonesia). 9 is a true stunner. There was one girl I couldn't take my eyes off of. What a true beauty. Unfortunately, I had brought a date with me and couldn't take my shot. I am a gentleman, after all. But I have no doubt those girls were going to ask for at least 3 million. It's very hard to find that quality in Jakarta. I'm not saying CJs will be like that again any time soon, but that night had some real talent. One thing I will mention is I didn't see any of those girls going home with any guy. They were completely ignoring the Indian guys who approached them. And only 1 of them stayed more than a half hour. The other 3 came in together and all left together after a short look around. When I walked by them though, they did give me positive gestures. I would have been curious how I would have fared. The one true beauty, I may have even been tempted to actually go 3 million. I can't believe I am saying that. Other than those 4 girls, the others didn't deserve more than 800 k, but since they paid 200 k for an entry drink, I guess 1 juta is fair. (In my humble opinion.) But it's all about the experience.[/QUOTE]

I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.

I've been mongering in Jakarta over a decade and safe to say, these two are severely infected with golden pussy syndrome. If it was one of those insta model or the new trend of Jakarta bouncing titties dj's. I would probably negotiate for 20 m for a week but that too even high.

If you really want shag same glory hole for a week, try your luck with tinder or resort to Cupid. Trust me, you won't regret.

Alternatively, check out one of those entertainment establishment, find the one you fancy and tell Mami you want her for a week, still going to be less than 40 mil.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2900213]Two girls I've messaged that stated 40 M a month.[/QUOTE]

Very valid points in these replies. Thanks a bunch.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2900357]Before confirming the girl tell / ask mama what you want and make sure she passes on the message to the girl and gets her nod of approval. Not all girls will perform all services, share with mama what you want like BBBJ, DFK, CIM so you have the best experience, a common practice enjoyed by punters, best of luck![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2900253]Good points on how to select a girl. I will just add that the girls that are not that pretty with the jacked up teeth are often the best shags in the whole place because they get fewer customers and appreciate someone taking a chance on them. :-the Some of my best lays in all of Asia were of that type. Total GFE. In contrast, I never, NEVER go with one who can't be arsed to even look up from her phone or just smiles but not really smiles, as you described.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2900129]I tried this approach and it seldom works. First, the music is so loud that you can barely hear each other even if you're able to speak in bahasa Indo. Second, the MMS can get pushy by getting you into the "Do you want to buy a drink or go upstairs?" situation. And even if you do, the most you'll get out of them is the MMS saying "No baby, good service" as it seems those are always the 4 english words she knows regardless of who she's pointing the laser at and the girl always nods.

The only advice is that when she's not delivering what you want, you just be a gent and be a touch playful. Tell her that you're sad because it's difficult for you to enjoy (this works much better if you learn this phrase in bahasa Indo). The only good thing that can happen at this point is that she replies to you "You tip more?" and she hits you with a 400 k to 500 k request. From there, it's your negotiating skills and really, USD $6. 50 isn't worth my time to lose a good nut. If all else fails, strap on your clothes, drop a 50 k note, and go back to the lounge to look for another girl. Pay the 400 k again and don't sweat it. Really if the USD $26 is a lot, not too sure how to change one's outlook.

Time and time again, the worst decision to be made is to have a session you're not into, blow your load, and then not be horny for the next 12 hours and yet not have had an explosive good time, all because you're worried about saving the fee. Sorry, a good nut is worth more than that to me.

Edit: I read someone else's follow up post about the girls impression, and was reminded that this is also key. When you get the line up, the first thing most guys do is look at the face and body looking for what attracts them. Many times, up in the room, the face ends up losing a point or more because in the light, she's not that pretty or her teeth are jacked up. Many times, up in the room, the body ends up losing a point or more because when the clothes come off, she turns out not to be an 18 year old 90 pound spinner but is really a 24 year old 110 flab hider. But I've found also that the magic in a good time and great service girl is in the line up, looking for the girl that's eye to eye looking at you with a beaming smile. I mean a really radiant smile, nothing like the smile the girls have just to look pretty. The one where she's really really smiling at you and eyes are locked on you, not looking away. Pick that one. Hopefully, you'll find one that's got all three, beautiful face, incredible body, and eye to eye smile on you.

The worst service, almost guaranteed bad time, are the girls that are on their phones not even bothering to look up at you. Those hotties are trouble. They'll burn through your allowance for the night or be expensive on their extra tip ask.[/QUOTE]

Truth to be told, Indonesian girls still has some passion left compared to other SEA. You get them wind up enough, they will pretty much do anything considering you bring them up to their comfort zone. I have never had any Indon cewek refused BBBJ and DFK. Whether it's at Classic, KC, Emporium or non-pro off dating sites.

For pros, I usually wave the money and clarify saying, "You make me happy and it's yours" money does rest of the talking. Next thing you see is that little genie bottle of listening appearing from the bag and you to are rinsing the hell out of your mouth.

For non-pro, obviously you need to give them the impression that she could be a potential candidate for future GF / relationship or something.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2900372]I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewImage;2900372]I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.[/QUOTE]Never been to places like Classic so can't talk for them, but the ladies I have picked up from clubs or through Tinder have tended to give excellent GFE experiences. Always been BBBJ and repeats just got better with each additional sessions, although some got very clingy if you repeat too much! The only ones that have asked me for a condom during sex are ones that I have known to have had bule boyfriends and didn't want to ruin that relationship (had a couple of those.).

Day 1- 3/8.

I didn't get in until about 730 pm. I didn't get to the bars off Pen. J until about 10 pm and they were all pretty busy so I didn't bother. I normally hit these places, along w / Travel Hotel, Classic in the early afternoon when there are hardly any customers. So day 1 nothing happened aside from getting drunk. *.

Day 2- 3/9.

I arrived at the Travel Hotel at around 130 pm and a mamasan grabbed me by the wrist, had me sit on one of the couches and brought out about a half dozen*women to choose from. She showed me on a piece of cardboard what the prices were; 1-375 K, 2-500 AND 3- 730 K (the option for 3 women was a new one for me! I chose two gals; one was busty and kinda tall for an Indo gal and the other was a complete spinner, both of them' were 19 and didn't speak English. They were both a lot of fun. The spinner is the one that took the initial shower with me and she's the one who blew me first while I enjoyed the other one's tits. After what felt like about 10 minutes of that I couldn't take anymore and took it out on the spinner- doggy style!

This time around the busty one washed me down and of course I groped them titties the whole time. Then I got back on the bed and the busty one blew me, while the other went up top. I didn't wait too long this time around to get inside the busty one, but of course it took me a bit longer to finish round 2. After I finished we laid there naked for another 10 minutes or so, before we got up, showered one last time and split. I gave each gal 50 K for a tip. Great experience overall. *.

Later on at around 7 pm I decided to check out the bars off Pen. J and this time around I popped a sildenafil tablet. I walked in and out the* bars just checking to see what was available until I got to Royal and a busty gal smiled at me and something told me it'd be in my best interest to take her so I did!

Mama quoted me 400 K, I paid and upstairs we went. This gal was even funner than the two I had before. That smile she gave me downstairs felt pretty genuine and she backed it up starting off w / a 10 minute bbj, after motor-boating her tits for a while I got on her down on her back, but she sat back up and continued to blow me so I figured I'd let her do her thing for a bit longer and then went to town. I did her missionary*and she got really into it so I didn't last very long, even though I was on a boner pill. Of course, my boner didn't subside any so I figured why not enjoy a beer downstairs and have her sit w / me. She nursed a beer for quite some time while snuggling up next to me the whole time, which was quite nice. *.

After that I headed off to Starmoon for another beer and checked out the talent. Of all the bars they had the most talent, or at least that was my perception. So for as big of a bust as day 1 was, day 2 was everything I hoped it would be. *.

Day 3- 3/10.

I was so impressed by the thought of having 3 chicks at once I was certain that's what I'd get this time around at Travel Hotel. I arrived at around 3 pm and to my dismay there were a good number of Chinese already there (most definitely from the mainland) and so I went a minute or so before a mamasan came up to me. She presented me w /2 spinners; one was 19 the other 20, neither would've been my first choice, but I was horny so I said they'll do. We went up and it was pretty much the same experience as the first time around, but the women were in a bit more of a rush and a lot more mercenary. I'm not complaining though, they got the job done and after a 50 K tip for each, it's still only 600 K for a 3-some w / two do-able, childless, slender, submissive women. That being said. It was definitely the worst 3-some I've ever had in Jakarta. *.

After that I was pretty spent in regards to sex, but I did go out to the bars again and drank a few. I didn't hit Blok M this time around. The last time I was in Jakarta was in 2019 and it was a sad shell of what it was the first time I'd been there in 2014. I stayed just across the street from the Pen. J bars so I simply wasn't in the mood to ride down there this time around. *.

I flew out the next day and had no issues getting to the airport. I must say having Grab available in Jakarta sure makes getting around town a lot easier, not having to haggle w / another Indonesian taxi driver I consider to be a good thing. The requirement of downloading a phone app in order to get a sim card is a bit more intrusive than I prefer so I didn't bother getting one (like I had before that mandate). Jakarta is still the best in regards to bang for your buck and the locals are insanely nice, but it's not a city I'd recommend*to just anyone. *.

[QUOTE=BrockStar;2901017]Day 1- 3/8.

I didn't get in until about 730 pm. I didn't get to the bars off Pen. J until about 10 pm ....[/QUOTE]Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2901043]Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]Probably Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.

Definitely a great news. It's been a while since I set my foot in Travel but definitely more reason to check it out on my upcoming trip.

On a side note, I heard Bfashion club and spa is closed. No sure how reliable is that! Any idea G or anyone else?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2901043]Whats "Pen J".

Travel introducing three-fer deals is a new one and welcome. Especially if it includes multiple pops. Previously it was multiple girls but one and done pops.

A good report.

Thanks. G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2900253]Good points on how to select a girl. I will just add that the girls that are not that pretty with the jacked up teeth are often the best shags in the whole place because they get fewer customers and appreciate someone taking a chance on them. :-the Some of my best lays in all of Asia were of that type. Total GFE. In contrast, I never, NEVER go with one who can't be arsed to even look up from her phone or just smiles but not really smiles, as you described.[/QUOTE]One of, if not the best fuck I ever had was with a cute, but not gorgeous Thai girl in Geylang, Singapore. That is correct, some of the less pretty ones will try harder. This chick was so awesome she rocked my world. Granted, she wasn't ugly by any definition, girl next door type. Nice big titties. I saw her at least 3 times, and every time she rimmed me like it was the end of the world. First porn like experience I ever had, with her licking my fingers like it was ice cream. And the DFK. It was sublime. Objectively, most of the hottest chicks I've fucked are just ok. The best p4 p's I've ever had were all ok looking, not ugly. But not gorgeous either. So I second all this. If you see an average looking chick and she seems eager, you might just have a winner there. All the hotness in the world isn't going to matter if she won't perform. But if she rocks your world, she can be a plain jane, you'll end up thinking she's the most beautiful chick ever.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901190]One of, if not the best fuck I ever had was with a cute, but not gorgeous Thai girl in Geylang, Singapore. That is correct, some of the less pretty ones will try harder. This chick was so awesome she rocked my world. Granted, she wasn't ugly by any definition, girl next door type. Nice big titties. I saw her at least 3 times, and every time she rimmed me like it was the end of the world. First porn like experience I ever had, with her licking my fingers like it was ice cream. And the DFK. It was sublime. Objectively, most of the hottest chicks I've fucked are just ok. The best p4 p's I've ever had were all ok looking, not ugly. But not gorgeous either. So I second all this. If you see an average looking chick and she seems eager, you might just have a winner there. All the hotness in the world isn't going to matter if she won't perform. But if she rocks your world, she can be a plain jane, you'll end up thinking she's the most beautiful chick ever.[/QUOTE]Cool you were in Geylang. I lived in Singapore for nearly 15 years and had tremendous luck finding semi-pro or non-pro honeys there, mainly from Philippines, Thailand and Indonesia, my favorite flavor. One Indo girl ended up being my 'sex friend' as she was sort of a nympho and we banged on a regular basis for a couple of years before she returned to Batam for good.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2901043]Whats "Pen J".[/QUOTE]What Bend Over said. Locals call it PanJay ie. Kota Indah.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2901400]What Bend Over said. Locals call it PanJay ie. Kota Indah.[/QUOTE] Yes, the formal street name is Jalan Pangeran Jayakarta.
Helps if you are dealing with a Bluebird driver.

Over the years, different short forms have come up: PanJay, PenJay, PJ etc.
They all refer to the *same* place.

~BKKguru

[QUOTE=NewImage;2900372]I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.
Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.
NI.[/QUOTE]Hehe. That's one fantasy that has never even crossed my mind before. Maybe it would be fun.

[QUOTE=GonzoTwo;2901607]Hehe. That's one fantasy that has never even crossed my mind before. Maybe it would be fun.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFaqoJgw-jM[/URL]

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2900372]I read so many forums and sites that I often forgot where I read something.

Question: (I think I read somewhere) that Jakarta is the best place in SEA for a GFE. Meaning DFK, BBBJ, etc. Or is this Indonesia in general?

Obviously if you paid any girl enough money she would stand on one leg and bark like a dog but "generally" thinking is Jakarta the best place.

Appreciate experienced BM feedback.

NI.[/QUOTE]That's got to be a lot of money for any chick to do that, especially in public. Maybe she'll do it in private. But if anybody's going to pay a chick to do anything at all, why not just let it be sex. Stand on one leg and bark like a dog? Kinda pointless really, but I'll admit, it'd be entertaining.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901864]But if anybody's going to pay a chick to do anything at all, why not just let it be sex. Stand on one leg and bark like a dog? Kinda pointless really, but I'll admit, it'd be entertaining.[/QUOTE]I think it was just, you know, a figure of speech. But the clip was funny.

I went to Hotel Travel last night. Quite good fun. I'm not usually a great fan of the place, but I thought it was about time. During Puasa, entry through the resto. I agree with the poster who said, don't obsess about body type so much, go for the one who isn't mesmerized by her phone and actually looks up and catches your eye. But the one who caught my eye was pretty good, tall, big tits, nice face. I told her to pick a friend to take with us. She liked that idea. Obviously much more fun to work with a friend rather than being stuck all alone with some bule who might turn out to be totally weird. The friend looked a bit shy, not bad, nothing special.

It was kind of hilarious in the room. The friend turned out to be quite new and not that experienced, so the first one was mocking her for her undeveloped blow job skills, giving her instructions, generally taking charge and showing her the ropes. They were giggling and laughing together while I rested between rounds so much that I think they almost forgot I was there. I do speak good Indonesian, so I could follow and join in.

Honestly, service from neither of them was that exceptional, particularly the beginner. But it was a fun evening. I wouldn't make a big point of meeting either of them again, but if they turned up, that would be fine.

Little doggy can be fun in the moment. Recently had a little spinner, 4 foot 9 inches and 90 pounds, and finished in doggy with her barking like a dog. Playful ruff, ruffs and was very fun to watch with three points of view from the mirrors and behind. Definitely worth asking to try it out and at no extra cost LOL.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2901864]...Stand on one leg and bark like a dog? Kinda pointless really, but I'll admit, it'd be entertaining.[/QUOTE]

As the title says. Met on tiktok. Works at Lokasari Plaza Mall. Loves bule guys and spent a few days with me till one of her regular guys put the kabosh on her seeing me, LOL! Not really my body type as I prefer the tiny spinner types but she was certainly enthusiastic and willing to do whatever I wanted.

I was in KI and can't remember which bar, doesn't really matter. Had me a beauty of an 19 year old, perfect body, no tats. Sexing her was the highlight of my trip.

I asked her where she worked before and she said Tanjung Priok. I said Where in Tanjung Priok. I didn't know there are places there. She said of course there are. Places with girls are in every part of every city. I asked her where in Tanjung Priok and she did say the name of the place, but she said it so fast, my bahasa abilities just shit a piece of kryptonite. I asked her what is the place like? She said it was like Classic.

That pretty much floored me. There's a place in Tanjung Priok like Classic? And nobody talks about it here? Guys, we need to do better. There's got to be dozens of places worth checking out that we don't even know about. Village places. Whatever! Come on, we keep sharing the same places!

GG she looks good and certainly with a lot of potential. Great pics for the eyes, hope you had a blast with her, next time try to get her friends as well. One thing I like about Indo girls, they are definitely ok to share their friends with you. Just how did you connect with her through TT? I am intrigued.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2902055]As the title says. Met on tiktok. Works at Lokasari Plaza Mall. Loves bule guys and spent a few days with me till one of her regular guys put the kabosh on her seeing me, LOL! Not really my body type as I prefer the tiny spinner types but she was certainly enthusiastic and willing to do whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]

Why spend time and money to travel to distant countries to consort with crude and ugly women? The way she looks, it's not worth wasting time in Lokasari.

She may even give you a free load of some ugly diseases.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2902055]As the title says. Met on tiktok. Works at Lokasari Plaza Mall. Loves bule guys and spent a few days with me till one of her regular guys put the kabosh on her seeing me, LOL! Not really my body type as I prefer the tiny spinner types but she was certainly enthusiastic and willing to do whatever I wanted.[/QUOTE]Nice work.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2902144]GG she looks good and certainly with a lot of potential. Great pics for the eyes, hope you had a blast with her, next time try to get her friends as well. One thing I like about Indo girls, they are definitely ok to share their friends with you. Just how did you connect with her through TT? I am intrigued.[/QUOTE]Cheers mate, she was indeed a lot of fun. I should clarify, apologies. I saw at a shop at Lokasari and exchanged tiktoks so we then communicated through there. Total non-pro so she needed to be discreet, especially at her place of employ. I'm working on that same approach. Finding girls through tiktok. The whole thing seems rather random. My preferred method is how I got this one. Just smile and be friendly and ask for contact info of the girls who you see in the malls (esp Lokasari) who look at you for longer than a casual glance. It's worked for me in most parts of SE Asia since I began living there in 2000.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2902180]Why spend time and money to travel to distant countries to consort with crude and ugly women? The way she looks, it's not worth wasting time in Lokasari.

She may even give you a free load of some ugly diseases.[/QUOTE]It's ok to be jealous mate. Not everybody has game and can get it with non-pros. As far as ugly diseases, your chances are infinitely higher with some slag you picked up in a club who services dozens of guys every week.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2902281]Nice work.[/QUOTE]Thanks, mate.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2902119]I asked her where she worked before and she said Tanjung Priok. I said Where in Tanjung Priok. I didn't know there are places there. She said of course there are. Places with girls are in every part of every city. I asked her where in Tanjung Priok and she did say the name of the place, but she said it so fast, my bahasa abilities just shit a piece of kryptonite. I asked her what is the place like? She said it was like Classic![/QUOTE]Well, there used to be a few sailors bars down in Priok. Pretty rough, sleezy joints, but kinda atmospheric, if you like that kind of thing. I had a friend with a boat he docked down htere, he used to frequent them on occasion. Been years since I've been in that part of town, but I imagine they are still there. Dunno about "like Classic," but maybe.

By the way, one of the girls I met at Travel was talking wistfully about wanting to work at Classic. I couldn't quite work out why she figured it was a step up in the world. But the grass is always greener on the other side.

Hi guys.

Heading up to Jakarta next month. Couple of questions. Is there a map on this forum showing where the clubs are? What part of town should I get a hotel in?

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2902673]Hi guys.

Heading up to Jakarta next month. Couple of questions. Is there a map on this forum showing where the clubs are? What part of town should I get a hotel in?[/QUOTE]I will be going for my first time next month as well. Here is the map that has been posted in the forums:

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1otTyUwFhqAMfy3fA8NDfarH5RkBEnTA&ll=-6.194299726540911%2C106.7812375&z=11[/URL]

I'm staying at the Holiday Inn Gajah mada as it seems to be pretty well liked in the forums and in a great location for most places.

Have fun!

That's perfect, thanks. Did look for a map here, apologies to regular viewers for not finding it. I'll check out the HI, thanks.

[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2902724]I will be going for my first time next month as well. Here is the map that has been posted in the forums:

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1otTyUwFhqAMfy3fA8NDfarH5RkBEnTA&ll=-6.194299726540911%2C106.7812375&z=11[/URL]

I'm staying at the Holiday Inn Gajah mada as it seems to be pretty well liked in the forums and in a great location for most places.

Have fun![/QUOTE]

Although I like classic I couldn't help noticing that when I sit at the small round tables in front of the stage there are a few girls sitting waiting on these tables they look fed up and bored and that they've been working there a while still young pretty and tall. They didn't seem to want to interact I'm not a bad looking guy and fairly young too and these girls did not look interested in me at all not interested in making eye contact A couple of mamasan spoke to them and pointed me out they all turned round and gave me a look of disgust I smiled pleasantly toward them being friendly.

These girls are not to be confused with the ones chained to the sofas against the walls.

So who are these girls and why do they seem to have more freedom to sit at empty tables.

All I can think of is they've been wronged by a white customer before perhaps gotten pregnant and not supported.

Or maybe they are a higher tier of girl in there.

What's your thoughts have you had the same experiences?

They typically sit at the tables to smoke since they are not allowed to smoke on the couches. Sometimes they just don't like sitting on the couches, especially if it is early and there are few customers and the mamasan won't mind. There is nothing special or unique about table sitting ladies.

Some ladies like or don't mind white guys. Some don't. Some are friendly. Others are not. Some like younger dudes. Some prefer older dudes because they don't want to be pounded hard by a young guy. Some have never been with a white guy before and its fine for them. Others think they all have huge cocks like in porn that will hurt them. I would not read too much into it. There are plenty of choices.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2903494]Although I like classic I couldn't help noticing that when I sit at the small round tables in front of the stage there are a few girls sitting waiting on these tables they look fed up and bored and that they've been working there a while still young pretty and tall. They didn't seem to want to interact I'm not a bad looking guy and fairly young too and these girls did not look interested in me at all not interested in making eye contact A couple of mamasan spoke to them and pointed me out they all turned round and gave me a look of disgust I smiled pleasantly toward them being friendly.

These girls are not to be confused with the ones chained to the sofas against the walls.

So who are these girls and why do they seem to have more freedom to sit at empty tables.

All I can think of is they've been wronged by a white customer before perhaps gotten pregnant and not supported.

Or maybe they are a higher tier of girl in there.

What's your thoughts have you had the same experiences?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoGermaphobe;2903580]Some ladies like or don't mind white guys. Some don't. Some are friendly. Others are not. Some like younger dudes. Some prefer older dudes because they don't want to be pounded hard by a young guy. Some have never been with a white guy before and its fine for them. Others think they all have huge cocks like in porn that will hurt them. I would not read too much into it. There are plenty of choices.[/QUOTE]Last time I went to Travel, the Mamasan was doing the usual thing of asking what body type I preferred, and pointing out prospects. I told her straight out I wanted to wait and see which one looked up from her phone, caught my eye and smiled. And that those were the ones who usually provided good service. She laughed and said "Pinter!

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2903494]What's your thoughts have you had the same experiences?[/QUOTE]That's not how Classic, Travel, or other Jakarta clubs work. They are sitting there smoking and waiting for mamasan to call them for a potential customer. If you see a girl you like you can talk to her or you ask her who her mamasan is. Girls do not approach you not unlike Thermae in Bangkok. It has nothing to do with who you are. Now if mamasan brings a group of girls to you, you say you want to talk to "Puput" for a bit, then "Puput" doesn't smile or talk to you and looks the other way, then that's your sign that she absolutely doesn't want to go with you. It could be something so simple as she doesn't speak English.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2903931]That's not how Classic, Travel, or other Jakarta clubs work. They are sitting there smoking and waiting for mamasan to call them for a potential customer. If you see a girl you like you can talk to her or you ask her who her mamasan is. Girls do not approach you not unlike Thermae in Bangkok. It has nothing to do with who you are. Now if mamasan brings a group of girls to you, you say you want to talk to "Puput" for a bit, then "Puput" doesn't smile or talk to you and looks the other way, then that's your sign that she absolutely doesn't want to go with you. It could be something so simple as she doesn't speak English.[/QUOTE]So true. This is why so many people post bad experiences in Jakarta. If you go in expecting it to be like Thailand, it most certainly is not. Most of the girls will not flirt with you in the bar, make eye contact or otherwise engage directly. There are exceptions of course and I have been approached but never by the best looking girls. To enjoy Jakarta venues like Classic you have to embrace the Asian style of mongering. Otherwise go back to Bangkok and Pattaya with jaded pro tattooed fake boobed girls. In Jakarta there is no lady drinks, no BS, and no refusing customers. You choose from the line up provided by mama sans and girl goes with you. Its hard to judge service from the bar but I have not really had any bad experiences and have had some amazing ones.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2903963]So true. This is why so many people post bad experiences in Jakarta. If you go in expecting it to be like Thailand, it most certainly is not. Most of the girls will not flirt with you in the bar, make eye contact or otherwise engage directly. There are exceptions of course and I have been approached but never by the best looking girls. To enjoy Jakarta venues like Classic you have to embrace the Asian style of mongering. Otherwise go back to Bangkok and Pattaya with jaded pro tattooed fake boobed girls. In Jakarta there is no lady drinks, no BS, and no refusing customers. You choose from the line up provided by mama sans and girl goes with you. Its hard to judge service from the bar but I have not really had any bad experiences and have had some amazing ones.[/QUOTE]I have been to Thailand many times and was down in Bali once. I did not have a great experience in Bali as I went to a few places and the girls were pretty mechanical. I don't care so much about the flirting and groping in the bar but do want a more GFE type of experience in the room. It sounds like that is available in Jakarta so I figured I would give it a shot. Hopefully I will enjoy it.

Any spa (with extras) near Holiday Inn Gajah Mada that I can visit at around 2 pm? Most FR says that the girls arrive late in the evening. Please suggest. TIA.

[QUOTE=Scarer;2904132]Any spa (with extras) near Holiday Inn Gajah Mada that I can visit at around 2 pm? Most FR says that the girls arrive late in the evening. Please suggest. TIA.[/QUOTE]There is one at the next door, Hotel Mustika in the hotel room by a couple of women. They typically open around 11 am, but due to Ramadan it won't be open till 1 pm. The massage itself is pretty good and inexpensive but on the bed, 90 minutes for 150,000, and in the end, offer HJ for 300,000.

If you decide to visit Hotel Classic, their Spa opens at 11 am, Terminal lounge opens at 1 pm. Get a massage, relax for a bit in Sauna, then go straight to lounge to avail girls. The Spa starts at 375,000 for 90 minutes but very good and pretty therapists with shower.

[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2904060]I have been to Thailand many times and was down in Bali once. I did not have a great experience in Bali as I went to a few places and the girls were pretty mechanical. I don't care so much about the flirting and groping in the bar but do want a more GFE type of experience in the room. It sounds like that is available in Jakarta so I figured I would give it a shot. Hopefully I will enjoy it.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure you will enjoy Jakarta, just remember the onus is one you to approach the girls. Like others have said, it's a very different scene from BKK and Pattaya and places like that.

What is the best way to exchange money in Jakarta? Are there exchange booths around that will do it or do I have to use banks? I prefer to bring the cash with me vs using an ATM. I am staying at the Holiday Inn, is there someplace near there to do exchanges?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated it.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2904785]What is the best way to exchange money in Jakarta? Are there exchange booths around that will do it or do I have to use banks? I prefer to bring the cash with me vs using an ATM. I am staying at the Holiday Inn, is there someplace near there to do exchanges?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Dolarindo is a reliable chain of money changers. Ok exchange rates and no nonsense. There is one next to Classic. Otherwise you can search google maps for them.

It is important that your bank notes are in large denominations and in pristine order (not torn, no writing on them). If not, they will give you a worse rate or refuse to change them.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2904789]Dolarindo is a reliable chain of money changers. Ok exchange rates and no nonsense. There is one next to Classic. Otherwise you can search google maps for them.

It is important that your bank notes are in large denominations and in pristine order (not torn, no writing on them). If not, they will give you a worse rate or refuse to change them.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I appreciate it!!

I always do large bills, same thing in Thailand with better rates on large bills.

Hi what's your opinion on these types of girls are they worth it and where are the usual places to find them? I read something about they are only available after midnight on the clubs is that correct?

[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2904785]What is the best way to exchange money in Jakarta? Are there exchange booths around that will do it or do I have to use banks? I prefer to bring the cash with me vs using an ATM. I am staying at the Holiday Inn, is there someplace near there to do exchanges?

Any suggestions are greatly appreciated it.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Another professional and best rate changers are Dua Sisi or Empat Delta. There's a Dua Sisi at the West Mall side of Grand Indonesia on the LG level.

Hey friends, I'm really looking for oil massage options in Jakarta that are kind of cheap but good. Is there any place / street where there are a lot of them? Something like Soi Bhukhao in Pattaya. Mostly looking for clean oil massages, but if they offer something at the end, I don't mind, as long as the massage is good. If anyone of you have outcall massage options that are reasonable priced, keen to hear those too. I did try a couple by google searching but they were just okay not even as good as a bad massage in thailand.

I can't seem to find any nice good priced options as I prefer to have a few hours of these every day if I can.

Hi, does anyone know any massage parlors for couples? I'd like to go with a GF to one, similar to Flame on Bali.

I know Classic and Delta etc, but do they do couple massages?

Hi All,

Planning for a visit to Jakarta in end of April. I'm new to this forum and I see lot of messages from Batam and Jakarta active. Could someone advise is Batam is worth visiting or Jakarta is good enough?

Thanks!

Is there a Jakarta based member here by the name Valhalla or something similar who visited Beijing occasionally many years ago and caught up with a few of us Beijing regulars for some fun at The Den and Maggie's?

[QUOTE=CpHowdy;2904797]Thanks, I appreciate it!!

I always do large bills, same thing in Thailand with better rates on large bills.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention: you have to bring your passport when you change money in Indonesia.

Photocopy of the same suffices.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2905166]I forgot to mention: you have to bring your passport when you change money in Indonesia.[/QUOTE]

For best lineup try 1001 pool, the quality is unbelievable, visit around 6 pm or so and you'll be amazed, do report.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2904860]Hi what's your opinion on these types of girls are they worth it and where are the usual places to find them? I read something about they are only available after midnight on the clubs is that correct?[/QUOTE]

Hi.

Where did you message for these tyoe of options.

Holiday GF and monthly allowance?

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2899874]I've never been to Jakarta but have recently messaged a few girls. So here is my contribution to this thread.


1) Holiday GF. Two girls quoted me US $2,000 to travel with me for 5-7 days.

2) Monthly Allowance. Two girls quoted me 40 M IDR.

3) Evidently, Singaporean and Chinese men are sugaring in Jakarta. One girl said though they are rude, they pay well.

That's all I have.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2406124]This small alley?[/QUOTE]"Jakarta, [URL]KOMPAS.com[/URL] - Tambora police have just raided the canteen or shelter for commercial sex workers (PSK) at Jalan Gedong Panjang, RT 10/ RW 10 No. 7, Pekojan, Tambora, West Jakarta. The prostitutes were employed in a brothel under the guise of a cafe in Gang Royal, Jalan Rawa Bebek Selatan, RW 013, Penjaringan, North Jakarta.

Article ini telah tayang di [URL]Kompas.com[/URL] dengan judul "Facts about the raid in the PSK chaos of the Gang Royal: Sex workers feel like they are in prison, some are still underage".

Seems the railway brothels are no more?

[QUOTE=Batman2024;2905140]Hi All,

Planning for a visit to Jakarta in end of April. I'm new to this forum and I see lot of messages from Batam and Jakarta active. Could someone advise is Batam is worth visiting or Jakarta is good enough?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Batam is where you go if you don't have time to go to Jakarta, or you want to play golf. If you are already going to Jakarta, no reason to visit Batam.

[QUOTE=FriendlyPlanet;2905257]Batam is where you go if you don't have time to go to Jakarta, or you want to play golf. If you are already going to Jakarta, no reason to visit Batam.[/QUOTE]Thank you! I thought seeing both forums active, it's like pattaya and Bangkok!

[QUOTE=SuperLove;2905202]For best lineup try 1001 pool, the quality is unbelievable, visit around 6 pm or so and you'll be amazed, do report.[/QUOTE]Thankyou for your help I will report as I'm in Jakarta in 1 week yeah!

[QUOTE=LollyLover;2905225]Hi.

Where did you message for these tyoe of options.

Holiday GF and monthly allowance?[/QUOTE]I have met a few girls on SA.

[QUOTE=Vendelo;2905308]I have met a few girls on SA.[/QUOTE]What Is SA sorry for my ignorance.

I just realised that I picked the holiday week (7th to 13th April) for my trip to Jakarta. Maybe I am expecting too much, but hoping that atleast few venues will be open.

Any inputs from the ground? Thank you.

[QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2905468]I just realised that I picked the holiday week (7th to 13th April) for my trip to Jakarta. Maybe I am expecting too much, but hoping that atleast few venues will be open.

Any inputs from the ground? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Me too will be there in the same week. PM me if interested to meet and go to places.

[QUOTE=LollyLover;2905449]What Is SA sorry for my ignorance.[/QUOTE][URL]Www.seeking.com[/URL] It's sugar daddy sugar baby dating. So less overt prostitution but more a date like arrangement with some back end payment for "her time" 😋.

[QUOTE=Playboy2001;2905496]Me too will be there in the same week. PM me if interested to meet and go to places.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LookAtWorld;2905468]I just realised that I picked the holiday week (7th to 13th April) for my trip to Jakarta. Maybe I am expecting too much, but hoping that atleast few venues will be open.

Any inputs from the ground? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I will also be there at around the same time.

Hit me up if you guys want to meet up.

[QUOTE=Batman2024;2905274]Thank you! I thought seeing both forums active, it's like pattaya and Bangkok![/QUOTE]Mate, Batam is NOTHING like Pattaya or Bangkok. Nothing flash or in your face about the scene there at all. How do I know. I lived and worked in Singapore for two decades and made regular trips there for the change of scenery and for the companionship of cheap, cute, young Indo ladies. Meet a few, get their numbers, and ask them to share their friends.

[QUOTE=Amadeuss;2905243]"Jakarta, [URL]KOMPAS.com[/URL] - Tambora police have just raided the canteen or shelter for commercial sex workers (PSK) at Jalan Gedong Panjang, RT 10/ RW 10 No. 7, Pekojan, Tambora, West Jakarta. The prostitutes were employed in a brothel under the guise of a cafe in Gang Royal, Jalan Rawa Bebek Selatan, RW 013, Penjaringan, North Jakarta.

Article ini telah tayang di [URL]Kompas.com[/URL] dengan judul "Facts about the raid in the PSK chaos of the Gang Royal: Sex workers feel like they are in prison, some are still underage".

Seems the railway brothels are no more?[/QUOTE]It seems there are quite a few police raids going on targeting open (I. E. Street side) prostitution all over Jakarta. I have been at Lokasari a week ago. With girls available as usual. At the moment the area is empty and one girl on my Whatsapp informed me about a recent raid (the third one in the last weeks).

Travel and Classic are unaffected so far, except the more hidden entry point into Travel and reduced number of girls.

As for travel companions / sugar girls: these numbers are definitely expensive for Indonesia. Question is: can you live with a lack of English. I. e. Having to use the voice input of Google Translate for a week? In that case you can easily get a cute girl in northern Jakarta that will accompany you for 500 USD for a week. Or 2 cute girls for 1000. Just ask a girls from Travel or Lokasari for recommendations for that price point. Though that can't be arranged remotely before your arrival, as the girls are unfamiliar with SA and need to see that you're real.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2905664]Mate, Batam is NOTHING like Pattaya or Bangkok. Nothing flash or in your face about the scene there at all. How do I know. I lived and worked in Singapore for two decades and made regular trips there for the change of scenery and for the companionship of cheap, cute, young Indo ladies. Meet a few, get their numbers, and ask them to share their friends.[/QUOTE]I live in Singapore. A flight to Jakarta is not much more than the ferry to Batam in both time and money. Jakarta blows Batam away in terms of quantity, quality and cost. ID rather fly to Jakarta than take the ferry to Batam.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2905664]Mate, Batam is NOTHING like Pattaya or Bangkok. Nothing flash or in your face about the scene there at all. How do I know. I lived and worked in Singapore for two decades and made regular trips there for the change of scenery and for the companionship of cheap, cute, young Indo ladies. Meet a few, get their numbers, and ask them to share their friends.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for this insight. Yes, I have also heard folks from SG talk about batam. I'll stick with Jakarta! Thanks mate!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2905766]I live in Singapore. A flight to Jakarta is not much more than the ferry to Batam in both time and money. Jakarta blows Batam away in terms of quantity, quality and cost. ID rather fly to Jakarta than take the ferry to Batam.[/QUOTE]Thank you mate!

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2905766]I live in Singapore. A flight to Jakarta is not much more than the ferry to Batam in both time and money. Jakarta blows Batam away in terms of quantity, quality and cost. ID rather fly to Jakarta than take the ferry to Batam.[/QUOTE]He was comparing Batam to Bangkok and Pattaya and there is absolutely no comparison.

I'm being told by a chick in travel and one of the mamas in classic that all bars will be closed from April 9 for a few days.

Classic should reopen April 12?

Can anyone else confirm?

I have already changed my flights just in case.

Yes. Those dates are the end of Ramadan feast / Lebaran / Idul Fitri. All the girls go home to be with their families.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2906071]I'm being told by a chick in travel and one of the mamas in classic that all bars will be closed from April 9 for a few days.

Classic should reopen April 12?

Can anyone else confirm?

I have already changed my flights just in case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Batman2024;2905912]Thank you mate![/QUOTE]Actually Batam is only about a 45 minute ferry ride away from Singa. Jakarta is about two hours plus getting through customs in two major airports, so it's hardly the same deal as a quick speedboat ferry to Batam. You can find talent at both places but yeah, Jakarta is definitely a much better mongering destination.

Flew AirAsia flight from Singapore to Jakarta. Had applied and received Jakara visa on arrival online beforehand, so check-in, flight, immigration, customs went smooth. Took Blue Bird taxi from the Airport to Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, costed me 210 k. This Holiday Inn is one of the nicest ones at $35 per night on Agoda. I picked this one based on recommendations from Expat American and others on this forum.

Day 1 - Wasted no time after checking in, and Hotel Travel first. This place was packed with so many good looking and young girls. I picked two girl package for 500 k. Although both were friendly, they would not do DFK. I took turns with both girls, groped, fondled, licked one while the other was on me, tipped 50 k each. I went back and checked with Mamasan if any girl would be open to GFE, DFK, DATY, but none, so I cut off my loses and left. Next I went to New Royal Bar in Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta, this is exactly opposite of Hotel Travel. I clearly explained to Mamasan what I was looking for, and most were open to DFK. I spent almost four hours here with three girls, about 400 k each, plus 100 k tips to each girl and Mamasan. They also had more expensive model girls at 900-1000 k but they didn't look their service would be better than 400 k ones. New Royal Bar was relaxed with friendly staff, no pressure to buy drinks, no one bothered me while I was resting on the couch between sessions.

Day 2 - Since it was Ramadan, most places weren't open till 1-2 pm. I first went to Hotel Classic around 11 am, decided to try their spa on the Ground Floor to kill time till their club opened at 1 pm. I got 90 min massage with shower for 375 k which was actually good by a pretty young therapist. She offered extras HJ for 300 k at the end, but declined. They also had Sauna, Hot tub but didn't go there. Then hit Terminal lounge on the 2nd floor. As reported by others, Mamasans were aggressive. I took two girls, 400 k, the first one was good, but the second was amazing, 19 yo tight body, young, sexy, cute face. Then left to have late lunch and went to my hotel to rest for a bit. On the way back, I got a massage next door hotel, Hotel Mustika after seeing their ad. Massage was offered on the bed in their hotel room, 90 minutes for 150 k, not bad at all. Offered HJ for 300 k, but didn't go for it. Later in the evening went to Starmoon Bar in Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta and spent a couple of hours with two girls 400 k each, this time the first girl was really good and tipped 100 k, the second was chatty, didn't understand a single word, spoiled the vibe, didn't feel like tipping. Since I had two massages, and four girls, decided it was enough for me, and called it a night.

Day 3 - I took a short-day trip train ride to Bangor, a small suburban city an hour and half outside of Jakarta, it's a small, clean, city, attempted to find a massage place, but most locations were closed or only offered to women. After spending a couple of hours, I took the same train route back to Jakarta. In the evening, I decided to try Kings Cross in Kalepa Gadig first. Got there around 7 pm. They had girls with three-four price ranges 400 k to 1. 3 M, I took a slightly older girl for 400 k, she was alright, tipped 100 k and came back to the lounge. The customer service was poor here, just one Mamasan working, so I left and went to Hotel Classic around 11 pm. This time there were so many girls, Mamasans were quite aggressive, a couple of girls were also picky who they will go out with, and what they will or won't do. I found a lot of Chinese and Koreans in both Kings Cross and Hotel Classic. I took two girls, the first one was a spinner, 400 k and tipped 100 k. The second was a stunner like a model for 400 k, she asked me 300 K tip for DFK, but settled for 200 k. Both were very cooperative.

Day 4 - I had early afternoon flight, checked out the hotel by noon to get to the airport on-time, didn't have time to partake in any activity.

New Royal Bar and Hotel Classic are my favorites in terms of girls, setup, and cleanliness. Starmoon Bar girls were good but rooms were dirty. Kings Cross has variety of girls but poor customer service. Hotel Travel is filled with hot girls but no GFE.

Overall, had a great time in Jakarta, the best in SEA. Most girls were friendly, wished I had more time to get to know girls to have them at my hotel. I'll definitely be back here.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2906353]Flew AirAsia flight from Singapore to Jakarta. Had applied and received Jakara visa on arrival online beforehand, so check-in, flight, immigration, customs went smooth. Took Blue Bird taxi from the Airport to Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, costed me 210 k. This Holiday Inn is one of the nicest ones at $35 per night on Agoda. I picked this one based on recommendations from Expat American and others on this forum.

Day 1 - Wasted no time after checking in,

Day 2 - Since it was Ramadan, most places weren't open till 1-2 pm.

Day 3 - I took a short-day trip train ride to Bangor,[/QUOTE]This was an excellent report. Accurate, well informed, efficient. I don't know how you banged out so many rounds per day. But you definitely had a good trip it sounds. I'm sure you wished that it wasn't Ramadan and that you had more than 3 days to stay in Jakarta to play.

Anyone who can replicate this fun filled 3 day vacation can call themselves lucky. If it's your first time in Jakarta, I highly recommend you do what this guy did.

I'm jealous.

Thank you and thanks to fellow mates for their field reports on Jakata. They helped me a lot to plan out my trip -- from visa, hotel, places, transportation. My only regret was why I didn't come here before and why I limited my stay to just three days. I didn't get a chance to explore Blok M bars. Upon returning from Hotel Classic on my last day, the Grab driver told me that there are lot of girls at Batik hotel, but it was already 2 am, so couldn't check it out. I loved Jakarta so much so that I already booked my next trip in six months. Hope it retains the same charm till then.

[QUOTE=BenderOver;2906384]This was an excellent report. Accurate, well informed, efficient. I don't know how you banged out so many rounds per day. But you definitely had a good trip it sounds. I'm sure you wished that it wasn't Ramadan and that you had more than 3 days to stay in Jakarta to play.

Anyone who can replicate this fun filled 3 day vacation can call themselves lucky. If it's your first time in Jakarta, I highly recommend you do what this guy did.

I'm jealous.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2906386] I loved Jakarta so much so that I already booked my next trip in six months. Hope it retains the same charm till then.[/QUOTE]This is what usually happens to a guy who finally goes to Jakarta over places like PP, Thailand, PI, etc. You are looking into your next fight back at the airport when you are leaving. You went during Ramadan too so likely much fewer girls than normal.

Thanks for your report. Agree Travel is the least GFE of all the places but if I see a hot girl there I will still go. Why not it's $23 US. Can't even buy a good pizza in the US for that price. Don't bother trying to confirm DFK with mamasans there. She will turn to the girl and the girl will confirm DFK to get you in a room. Then all you will get is extended lip lock. Of course YMMV but that is the typical interaction. I'm sure you read on here previously never take 2 girls at Classic or Travel if you want GFE. Even though one girl is a horny PSE she will likely be much tamer in the room with another girl present.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;2906353]Flew AirAsia flight from Singapore to Jakarta. Had applied and received Jakara visa on arrival online beforehand, so check-in, flight, immigration, customs went smooth. Took Blue Bird taxi from the Airport to Holiday Inn Gajah Mada, costed me 210 k. This Holiday Inn is one of the nicest ones at $35 per night on Agoda. I picked this one based on recommendations from Expat American and others on this forum.

Day 1 - Wasted no time after checking in, and Hotel Travel first. This place was packed with so many good looking and young girls. I picked two girl package for 500 k. Although both were friendly, they would not do DFK. I took turns with both girls, groped, fondled, licked one while the other was on me, tipped 50 k each. I went back and checked with Mamasan if any girl would be open to GFE, DFK, DATY, but none, so I cut off my loses and left. Next I went to New Royal Bar in Jl. Pangeran Jayakarta, this is exactly opposite of Hotel Travel. I clearly explained to Mamasan what I was looking for, and most were open to DFK. I spent almost four hours here with three girls, about 400 k each, plus 100 k tips to each girl and Mamasan. They also had more expensive model girls at 900-1000 k but they didn't look their service would be better than 400 k ones. New Royal Bar was relaxed with friendly staff, no pressure to buy drinks, no one bothered me while I was resting on the couch between sessions.[/QUOTE]Did you get BBFS?

[QUOTE=ILoveBoobs;2906390]Did you get BBFS?[/QUOTE]Got BBBJ, BBJTC. I'm never into BBFS, but I'm sure you can get there.

[QUOTE=Evinmors;2905107]Hi, does anyone know any massage parlors for couples? I'd like to go with a GF to one, similar to Flame on Bali.

I know Classic and Delta etc, but do they do couple massages?[/QUOTE]Getting desperate now. Really no one knows a couple massage place jn Jakarta, like Flame Bali?

Went to a few of the spots in Kelapa Gading and also Sugar Spa and am a little confused about the terms they use here. The mamasans don't seem to want to explain literally what they are. One of them is rimming, one of them I think is lick breasts. I am not even sure if that means permission to lick the girls or if that means them licking the customer as they always seem to do that anyways. If anyone can clarify it would be helpful for sure.

Overall I would say half the sessions were decent to good, but some of the girls were too inexperienced and nervous to really give good service, and a few were just jaded and not really into it all. Same with management, some were friendly and some were more sullen. Had one session that was bad enough to walk out of before finishing, and another where the girl got tired of sucking after less than 10 minutes and started insisting that I had already cum, and didn't even want to finish by hand or by giving a massage to complete the time. While it is cheap and a nice way to relax when the service is good, at the moment I am finding it pretty inconsistent and I am doing better going to Classic before 6-7 pm while it is not so busy, and getting quite good service for an equally cheap price but without the running around and other hassles. Starmoon was also ok during happy hour (before 8 pm). Did alright there once but the next time I visited really weren't that many attractive girls. There was one super cute tiny one. Unfortunately she was looking way to visibly nervous and uncomfortable to try and attempt anything with.

Sure. Mmc, FK, ck, FJ, etc.

Mmc = Mickey Mouse Club.

FK = f*ck knows.

Ck = cheese kunt.

FJ = frog jerk.

Etc = every tranny counts.

See link below and the thread and discussion and also attachment.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2688372&viewfull=1#post2688372[/URL]

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2906787]Went to a few of the spots in Kelapa Gading and also Sugar Spa and am a little confused about the terms they use here. The mamasans don't seem to want to explain literally what they are. One of them is rimming, one of them I think is lick breasts. I am not even sure if that means permission to lick the girls or if that means them licking the customer as they always seem to do that anyways. If anyone can clarify it would be helpful for sure.

Overall I would say half the sessions were decent to good, but some of the girls were too inexperienced and nervous to really give good service, and a few were just jaded and not really into it all. Same with management, some were friendly and some were more sullen. Had one session that was bad enough to walk out of before finishing, and another where the girl got tired of sucking after less than 10 minutes and started insisting that I had already cum, and didn't even want to finish by hand or by giving a massage to complete the time. While it is cheap and a nice way to relax when the service is good, at the moment I am finding it pretty inconsistent and I am doing better going to Classic before 6-7 pm while it is not so busy, and getting quite good service for an equally cheap price but without the running around and other hassles. Starmoon was also ok during happy hour (before 8 pm). Did alright there once but the next time I visited really weren't that many attractive girls. There was one super cute tiny one. Unfortunately she was looking way to visibly nervous and uncomfortable to try and attempt anything with.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

I will be in holiday inn if anyone is staying there and wants to meet up just say Hi I will say Hi back.

I'm interested in trying 1001 any tips for that is the colosseum any good or should I enter the hotel and look for the pool are girls avails sitting in booths by the pool and I join them I'm Not sure what to do haha?

[QUOTE=SeanWilkds;2906787]Went to a few of the spots in Kelapa Gading and also Sugar Spa and am a little confused about the terms they use here. The mamasans don't seem to want to explain literally what they are. One of them is rimming, one of them I think is lick breasts. I am not even sure if that means permission to lick the girls or if that means them licking the customer as they always seem to do that anyways. If anyone can clarify it would be helpful for sure.

.[/QUOTE]In my experience you will never have a good time if you reduce the experience to a bunch of acronyms you have tick off a list.

Read my report from Jan, have fun and do write.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2906961]Hi,

I will be in holiday inn if anyone is staying there and wants to meet up just say Hi I will say Hi back.

I'm interested in trying 1001 any tips for that is the colosseum any good or should I enter the hotel and look for the pool are girls avails sitting in booths by the pool and I join them I'm Not sure what to do haha?[/QUOTE]

I just completed a 14 day stay in Jakarta. Except 2 trips to Travel, this visit was entirely based around having girls come to my Airbnb apartment. Usually 2 per day in the afternoon / evening.

My Airbnb was at the top floor of a mall, close to the Holiday Inn (for about half the price of the latter). There are 2 exclusive elevators for the 3 floors of apartments on top of the mall, which bypass the staff-area of the apartment-complex. Operation and access to the un-manned elevator lobby is by key card. Avoiding a walk of shame for the girls.

I had a mixed experience. About half of my visits were from girls I met at previous trips. So girls I knew will deliver what I'm looking for (GF experience or a particular look). I had 2 "providers" (girls I slept with) who arranged visits by friends and acquaintances + a mamasan with 5 girls on hand. I learned no to trust any pictures someone is messaging me. The discrepancy between image and reality can be stark. What was promised as a cute girl with a cute face transformed into a 5 foot overweight person + really un-pretty face. More than one time. I made it a habit by the second week to always demand a video call before the girls are on their way to my apartment. Resulting in 3 cancellations on my part. It really emphasizes the point-and-choose advantage in Travel and Classic.

In terms of attitude the girls are comparable to the Hotel venues. They are younger, don't meet men that often, so are more "innocent and cheerful" - but also not vetted by a mamasan. So there can be some real duds in bed. I even had a complete failure of a girl that complained about pain; so I stopped. However, conversely there are some real diamonds, I. E. Good / cute looking in body and face, cheerful and enjoying fun in bed. Of those I take the Whatsapp numbers to meetup directly next time. One on our second meeting even made the effort to clean my kitchen and having some chat about life and everything before the deed in bed. There even was a self-professed virgin. I. e. Not advertised by her friend as such, but telling me in the bedroom.

My price point is always the same and happily accepted by most girls: 500 k for the service + 50 k for transport. My reward for good service is repeat dates in the future and that's my communication to the girls. Service is always BBFS. Half the girls don't like kissing; but that may be a result from previous guys not practicing good oral hygiene. So rinse your mouths, take breath mint guys, don't be violent and don't scream at girls.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907337]I just completed a 14 day stay in Jakarta. Except 2 trips to Travel, this visit was entirely based around having girls come to my Airbnb apartment. Usually 2 per day in the afternoon / evening.[/QUOTE]Excellent write up thankyou.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907337]I just completed a 14 day stay in Jakarta. Except 2 trips to Travel, this visit was entirely based around having girls come to my Airbnb apartment. Usually 2 per day in the afternoon / evening.

My Airbnb was at the top floor of a mall, close to the Holiday Inn (for about half the price of the latter). There are 2 exclusive elevators for the 3 floors of apartments on top of the mall, which bypass the staff-area of the apartment-complex. Operation and access to the un-manned elevator lobby is by key card. Avoiding a walk of shame for the girls.

I had a mixed experience. About half of my visits were from girls I met at previous trips. So girls I knew will deliver what I'm looking for (GF experience or a particular look). I had 2 "providers" (girls I slept with) who arranged visits by friends and acquaintances + a mamasan with 5 girls on hand. I learned no to trust any pictures someone is messaging me. The discrepancy between image and reality can be stark. What was promised as a cute girl with a cute face transformed into a 5 foot overweight person + really un-pretty face. More than one time. I made it a habit by the second week to always demand a video call before the girls are on their way to my apartment. Resulting in 3 cancellations on my part. It really emphasizes the point-and-choose advantage in Travel and Classic.

In terms of attitude the girls are comparable to the Hotel venues. They are younger, don't meet men that often, so are more "innocent and cheerful" - but also not vetted by a mamasan. So there can be some real duds in bed. I even had a complete failure of a girl that complained about pain; so I stopped. However, conversely there are some real diamonds, I. E. Good / cute looking in body and face, cheerful and enjoying fun in bed. Of those I take the Whatsapp numbers to meetup directly next time. One on our second meeting even made the effort to clean my kitchen and having some chat about life and everything before the deed in bed. There even was a self-professed virgin. I. e. Not advertised by her friend as such, but telling me in the bedroom.

My price point is always the same and happily accepted by most girls: 500 k for the service + 50 k for transport. My reward for good service is repeat dates in the future and that's my communication to the girls. Service is always BBFS. Half the girls don't like kissing; but that may be a result from previous guys not practicing good oral hygiene. So rinse your mouths, take breath mint guys, don't be violent and don't scream at girls.[/QUOTE]Congrats on a successful venture, mate. This is exactly what I'm looking for as well. Had a few properties in the Philippines where I successfully employed this modus operandi. From the mall straight up to the room. Can't wait to get to Jakarta and do the same there.

[QUOTE=Delbo1;2906961]Hi,

I will be in holiday inn if anyone is staying there and wants to meet up just say Hi I will say Hi back.

I'm interested in trying 1001 any tips for that is the colosseum any good or should I enter the hotel and look for the pool are girls avails sitting in booths by the pool and I join them I'm Not sure what to do haha?[/QUOTE]I should arrive the following week. Pm me if you want to meet up.

1001 is just basically the same setup as a soapy in thailand.

Before you walk into the lobby of 1001, security will put a sticker to cover your cell phone camera.

When you walk inside, the receptionist will ask you if you are here for spa or KTV or whatever.

An assigned person will escort you to the spa area.

The chicks are sitting on bench seats and usually dressed in an evening gown.

You will prolly be seated at the couches, but you can sit anywhere you like.

Your caretaker can arrange for the girls to come down for a lineup viewing.

When you select a chick, you have mayb 30 min to chat her up.

I believe you can still reject her afterwards if you don't like her, not 100% sure.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2907449]Congrats on a successful venture, mate. This is exactly what I'm looking for as well. Had a few properties in the Philippines where I successfully employed this modus operandi. From the mall straight up to the room. Can't wait to get to Jakarta and do the same there.[/QUOTE]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.

[QUOTE=JSmithJ88;2907464]I should arrive the following week. Pm me if you want to meet up.

1001 is just basically the same setup as a soapy in thailand.

Before you walk into the lobby of 1001, security will put a sticker to cover your cell phone camera.

When you walk inside, the receptionist will ask you if you are here for spa or KTV or whatever.

An assigned person will escort you to the spa area.

The chicks are sitting on bench seats and usually dressed in an evening gown.

You will prolly be seated at the couches, but you can sit anywhere you like.

Your caretaker can arrange for the girls to come down for a lineup viewing.

When you select a chick, you have mayb 30 min to chat her up.

I believe you can still reject her afterwards if you don't like her, not 100% sure.[/QUOTE]I admit I'm a bit confused also because previously people mentioned girls around the pool. And I didn't see 1001 and KTV mentioned. So are there three things at 1001 — pool, spa and KTV? Or is pool and spa one and the same?

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2907608]I admit I'm a bit confused also because previously people mentioned girls around the pool. And I didn't see 1001 and KTV mentioned. So are there three things at 1001 pool, spa and KTV? Or is pool and spa one and the same?[/QUOTE]Pool = spa.

Some of those KTV chicks were stunning, but so was the price tag.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907571]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.[/QUOTE]I believe we think alike, mate. And I have no interest in paying girls 2 or 4 million IDR. Rather have a network of sweet young girls, even I have to train them. That's part of the fun.

I tried to message you on here to ask which airBnB you used. Care to share? You said close to a Holiday Inn but which one is attached to a mall? Also, are these freelance semi-pros all using whatsapp now? You mentioned before you were making contact on TikTok or Instagram. Thanks again for the intel.

[QUOTE=FutureGuy;2907571]The challenge will be to get the initial contacts of girls. Once you have 1 or 2 well connected girls on your whatsapp the process becomes a lot easier.

Maybe it's possible to get to that point with Travel-girls, too. But in that case it should be communicated clearly, that your offer includes BBFS, if you require that. I imagine that Travel-girls are only available for apartment visits in the early afternoon. Before they are required to sit around for 10 hours in their booth.

You can talk to Mamasans at Lokasari as well. At your first visit to Lokasari you can take a girl from there to your apartment, after paying the Mamasan. At the same time you will take the Whatsapp of the Mamasan and ask them to bring girls to your apartment. That means at arrival you pay her outside of the public eye and bring the girl to your place. At some point you'll get a girl who is sufficiently well connected to set you up with her friends. Lokasari girls and freelancers in the North are always BBFS.

If money is of no importance, you can also try the usual online dating sites and accept the obvious Pay4 Play profiles. But that's more like 2 million, or 4 million if you negotiate BBFS. I rather do 500 k for a younger girl, even if that means the occasional dud.[/QUOTE]Bro can I get some more info on Lokasari. I'm trying to do my own research but it looks (atleast from Google searches) to be a malo or shopping center. Where exactly would you find the girls and mamasans and 180 k hotel rooms? Is it like a massage place within the shopping center?

Here ya go. If you can't figure out how to message these gals through their listed tiktoks or IGs, I don't know what to tell ya.

[URL]https://www.tiktok.com/@bocilrandom19[/URL]

I'm not a paid member so I can't use the messaging system.

This time I used an Airbnb provider located at Harco Glodok Mall. There are 3 apartments on offer there, situated on top of the mall. Read the Airbnb offers around Holiday Inn to try to identify them. It's purely an electronics mall, shutting down at 18:00. So there isn't much foot traffic. There are public elevators to the official lobby of the apartments. But also 2 hidden private elevators exclusively for resident of the apartments, operated by key cards. Avoiding any contact with staff and security.

Everyone I know in Indonesia uses Whatsapp or MiChat. Nobody uses Iphones. Because they can't afford to spend one annual salary to buy one.

So far I'm making contacts by meeting girls from Lokasari and encouraging them to set me up with their friends. So initially dealing with Mamasans can't be avoided. There is one particular younger Mamasan, capable of limited English (nick name "Pipit") that is fairly reliable in bringing quality girls to my place (600 k including transport). But you may have to meetup at Lokasari for your very first meeting, so she can trust you being real and located in Jakarta.

Once you met 3 or 4 girls from Lokasari Mamasans, and collected their Whatsapp, it should be easy to circumvent Mamasans.

It seems that Lokasari is in decline by the way. My impression is the area is getting "cleaned up" to become more presentable. You will still find Mamasans there in the evening. But the girls are not haning out in groups anymore. Instead sitting at home to be called or similar. Lokasari = area between KFC and hotel Prinsen Park.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2907695]Bro can I get some more info on Lokasari. I'm trying to do my own research [/QUOTE]Such a shame there isn't a place that details all about there and the girls to be found, or even the ability to scroll down here for more clues.

It's so difficult living these days.

[QUOTE=HungMan1808;2907753]Such a shame there isn't a place that details all about there and the girls to be found, or even the ability to scroll down here for more clues.

It's so difficult living these days.[/QUOTE]No need to be such a prick bro. I did scroll down and I saw the post about the guy said turn left into the housing block with the filthy apartments and then he got ripped off for 600 k for a bullshit service when it's supposed to be 400 k for everything bb and you can take them to your place to avoid paying for the room.

Obviously my question was geared to the guys with experience there such as Future Guy and GG not smart asses with bad attitudes such as yourself.