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I'm sorry, it's 10% as Nastyboy states. Normally, I charge 300 euros on my credit card and give them 30 euros.

Thanks guys!

Really appreciate the info. Wondering if I'll choose Amsterdam instead though - ticket prices there are only 100 euro compared to 350 to Frankfurt, and Amsterdam seems to be a more fun place to be in between the action...

Tantrik
Be warned Amsterdam is the most overrated sex destination (possibly worldwide)


Yes if you are intrested in have a good time and are looking to get high in the coffee shops or more then its worth going just for that reason only.

But if its goood sex you are looking for and value for money then nothing beats Germany in the whole of western Europe "Period"

If you are sex starved ? and dont know anything better then Amsterdam might meet your needs and you will come home happy and content.

I personally recommend that you spend the extra money on the airfair and enjoy the best in Europe = GERMANY

BTW you could always fly to Amstedam and rent a car (get a good winter price deal ) drive two and a half hours on the great highways and you are in the Dusseldorf/ Klon region of FKK clubs another 2 hours and your in Frankfurt (Atlantis World and Oases are a bit closer.)

I dont know where you are coming from but Klon Dusseldorff on some of the cheaper cut rate airline like Berlin-air have some great prices on the net

I'm definately going because of the girls, no question about it. However, I wouldn't mind having something to do in between the sessions, and that's why Amsterdam seems better. Since I don't have a drivers license, it seems like the time spent travelling from the FKKs to the nearest city whenever I become bored with the girls will make it a bit impractical.

The average going rate for sex appears to be 50 euro for half an hour in the FKKs, and 100 in Amsterdam. However, you can get hourly rates at around 100 euro in Amsterdam too, if you visit a Privehuis. As for the quality of the girls, I use the Ignatzmice device, which contains reviews of and directions to some great girls. I wish something like that were implemented here, it's a search angine containing info on rating, looks etc., REALLY practical. Ignatzmice is a cityguide for Amsterdam, btw.

I want to spend around 1500 euro total on 4 days. I'll spend 200 on a hostal, and 200 for transport and food and stuff. The plane ticket to Frankfurt is 350, and it's 100 to Amsterdam. That means I can spend 750 euro on mongering in FKKs, or 1000 in Amsterdam. Using the prices I mentioned earlier, I might get a couple of more lays in the FKKs, however, the difference isn't big. Also, Amsterdam is a fun city, and FKKs are basically for screwing and nothing else. Fun for a couple of hours or six, but not the best place to stay all day for four days straight probably.

It appears to me that Amsterdam is a bad place to go if you're an average tourist and just want to try your luck at the kamers. However, I'll have work schedules and adresses to 20-30 top class girls if I go there, so I won't be relying on luck to get good company.

Do I make sense here wizard? Anyone else with an opinion?

You can also get a fast intercity train from Amsterdam to Klon Dusseldorf and Frankfurt from the central station they run very regulary. And take about the same time as a car trip.

That is if you find that the sex in Amsterdam is not up to the standard that you were expecting.

If you are not mobile then you can stick to the smaller FKK clubs in or closer to the main citys.

Or maybe if you are inquistive to at least try out one of the BIG clubs (Oases is the easiest to get to by public transport)

With this in mind you will have all the options available to you.
Should you find that Amsterdam is dissapointing for sex after giving it a try for a day or so.

Wiz, Tantrik,
I've been following your dialogue amd have my own 2 sense.

Tantrik - Go to Amsterdam for fun - great city, sights, people, beer, smokes, do the tourist thing, RLD, museums - I agree it's a can't miss city for an American abroad. Stay 2 days.

But the Wiz is right - you will never get your money's worth of sex there. Take the train to D-dorf or Frankfurt. Follow the thread here and find a nice inexpensive place to stay near one of the big clubs and fck your brains out for 15 hours a day for the other 2 days. This way you'll maximize your investment, see the sights of A-dam and have an otherworldly experience draining yourself into many beautiful women - Can't lose man....

What are the health requirements for the girls in the RLD and Fkk clubs? Do the girls at the Fkk club's get the same testing, ie. health checks as the RLD girl's. Does anybody know the frequency of testing and if so, do the Fkk club's enforce the public health codes. Really important from a public safety point of view.

Thanks

There are no health checks in RLD'S. None whatsoever. There used to be such a thing, but they figured out that it didn't provide any real form of safety and was just an administrative nightmare and got rid of it a bunch of years ago.

Also there are no checks in FKK's either. Some girls claim to get checked on a regular basis, but I think most prefer to remain blissfully ignorant.

I surf the german boards a lot and rarely read about guys complaining about STD's in FKK's. BBBJ's are the norm. I have to say that I once got a case of Gonnorhea from an FKK, but Cypro took care of that. I read of one other Gonnorhea case on the german boards, but otherwise haven't heard many complaints.

Sex is never completely safe, and prostitution isn'T either. If you want sterile perfectly safe sex stick with a monagomous relationship.

Peter

I had read that German workers were required for health checks, is this no longer true? Or was it "just on the books" and never implemented? Also, are FKK clubs officially legal or just allowed?

Main Man,

No Law, no checks. There used to be a so-called "Randy License" (Bock-Schein) which prostitutes in Eros Centres had to have to work. That was an idea from the 60's and since the nature of prostitution and disease have changed these regulations have changed. If you are paranoid, don't monger!

Prostitution is not Illegal in German, but promoting prostitution or living off the avails of prostitution are. That is why this area is always a grey-zone. Some cities try to make sure that an FKK can't open, but they are dealing mainly with zoning regulations.

The way that FKK's conform to the law is the following:

Men pay an entrance fee
Women pay an entrance fee

what happens when they meet is all their business.

The clubs cannot take a cut of the women's earnings, otherwise they would be in strange legal territory.

Most of these clubs get raided by the police on average every second year. They are looking for illegal immigrrants and people working without proper papers, sometimes for drugs, they don't bother the customers. I have been involved in 2 raids and never had to do more than show my ID.

On a recent trip to Atlantis there was a police road block on the road there and they stopped a lot of cars and searched mine. They were looking for people trafficking drugs and people.

I have also been followed by a cop leaving Wildenrath who pulleed me over to see whether I was driving drunk. He saw me leave the parking lot and probably just wanted to annoy me.

In any serious FKK (all the ones mentioned here), you don't have to worry about the legal situation.

Peter

Peter,

My confusion was in regards to a late 80s Bavarian program that was (apparantly) never implemented.

Don't be suprised if my ideas are outdated. After all, I'm from America where our President is seeking to implement 13th centrury ideals. I wouldn't be suprised if we end up using the Gregorian chant as the Nat'l anthem. LOL. As for me, I don't think I personally want to be around the condomless sex with or without disease testing. I envy you guys who get to do it with no guilt though! If it weren't for my gf maybe I could too.

Hello Friends,

I am interested in finding Turkish women in Germany. Any ideas on where I can find the maximum amount of Turkish women in an FKK Club? Any links?

Thanks

Zeybek most of the major FKK clubs will have at least a few Turkish women. Your best chances of finding them will be at Frankfurt area clubs like Atlantis, Oase, and FKK World.

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Sage advice, to be sure, is given just below. A further note, however: I remember a club in Essen, I believe, Club Penelope that was supposed to be run by Turks and it is said they have all Turkish women there. I cannot verify as I've never been myself, but it might be worth investigating esp if you are in that part of Germany.