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[QUOTE=EastGoing;1431826]Bootie, thanks for the "encouragement", but. Guys, forgive my ignorance, where is written in their site about AO? I took it for granted reading about that on here, but I couldn't find by myself (remember I'm computer impaired)[/QUOTE]I don't think it's on the website, but once you get there Alina (or whoever else is taking your entrance fee) will explain the pricing structure to you, including the AO surcharge.
[QUOTE=Woofiee;1431700]. before I depart this thread forever.[/QUOTE]You should never have come here in the first place! You won't be missed!
Enjoy what you like, where you like and let other do the same!
[QUOTE=Kommodore; 1430785]I have been to many many many many clubs including some of those referred to in this thread. QUOTE]
Can you be more precise, like telling us which specific club, and when you visited? Your statement seems little convincing!
Most posters on this thread seem to have had a good time, recently, in Arabella, Villa Venus, Grimberg and Angelique. It's one thing to say you don't like them, another to"warn " people about the "Horrors" of those places.
Why don't you do like wollfie, that is leave this thread forever?
If your going to talk about AO clubs, how about merging all the NRW AO clubs into one section? Doubt Jackson will act on a few people. This would keep all AO talk to one area, making it easier for AO seekers to keep updated and for those not interested in AO talk to avoid the conversation. Or if Jackson agree's to create another forum under this title we could move these clubs over to that area? I know not all of the clubs are true AO clubs but if its readily available and or advertised as possible then it should be included. I know some clubs have their own section already but this would allow AO talk to be done in one place, under one section.
AO clubs: Angelique, Arabella, Bernds, Dietzenbach, DolceVita Rausbach, Grimberg, LaLuna, VillaVenus.
Would this be acceptable to everyone involved in this debate? Am I missing any clubs? I tried to shorten the names to keep the title condensed.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1431987]Am I missing any clubs?[/QUOTE]Alina (Dorsten). Pure AO club.
AO happens in Cleopatra Arena (Gelsenkirshen) , Emmerich.
I am not sure about Bernds. Can be listed here?
[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1432000].
I am not sure about Bernds. Can be listed here?[/QUOTE]For some reasons better known by himself, Breadman tries to promote Bernds as an AO club.
AO clubs are those openly advertising AO. Bernds is not such a club, and, as much as I agree that AO is offered in non AO clubs, if Bernds is included in such a list so should Oase, and all the other big FKKS all over Germany.
[QUOTE=Jymondor; 1432000]Alina (Dorsten). Pure AO club.
AO happens in Cleopatra Arena (Gelsenkirshen) , Emmerich.
I am not sure about Bernds. Can be listed here?[/QUOTE]Dorsten is now a pure AO club? Bernds is like Cleopatra Arena, it happens there but sometimes you've got to have a regular visitor in your group to have it offered to you. You'll get billed double at the door by the girl. If your going solo, visit twice in one week and things should open up for you. But the third time is the charm. Its like Dietzenbach, you really don't know until you go to the room to keep it out of the open. Even if the girl doesn't speak much english, I've found that by rubbing your bare dick on her pussy when your ready for sex the reaction will be reach for the condom or slightly cover the pussy and then say '50 extra'. Amazing how they practive that phrase.
What defines an AO club? I'd say the 33% rule. If at least one in three of the girls working at the club offer it, then guys here want to know about the practice. I've gotten it at Oase and World before but the odds are 1 in 100 if not more. Bernds has maybe 14 girls working at any given time, odds are in your favor of finding an AO provider here. Yes, they do pull out the condom but some of those condoms have years of dust on them if you get my drift.
It will end or not?
As you all don't report, so don't go in clubs, please masburbate yourself at home and stop posting bullshit on the forum.
The worst is that this kind of shit happens also in 'big' club's thread where a newbie cannot write his bad experience without nearly the same guys write 50 useless posts to say it cannot happened.
My thinking is that some accounts should be closed. They behave like pimps. My 0 cent.
[QUOTE=Happy Fkk;1432139]The worst is that this kind of shit happens also in 'big' club's thread where a newbie cannot write his bad experience without nearly the same guys write 50 useless posts to say it cannot happened.[/QUOTE]Bad experience? So your against ao in the clubs I take it?
[QUOTE=Breadman;1432083]. I've gotten it at Oase and World before but the odds are 1 in 100 if not more. .[/QUOTE]Really, one in 100! You tested more than 100 girls and only one would accept AO if you request? Come on, be a bit honest and serious!
I agree that 1 in 3 is a good possibility, in ANY big FKK, Bernds as much (or less) than any other.
We are all very curious to know what Bernd's management has done to you so that you keep at them so persistently.
Anecdotal, anyway, Bernd's business remains brisk, but just curious.
[QUOTE=EastGoing; 1430603][url]http://www.joyclub.de/my/fotoalbum/1994883.club_angelique.html[/url]
Also, even if, again, I agree AO is a dangerous practice and shouldn't be advertised too much (as Dreams said these clubs may get overcrowded, therefore increasing the chances of possible infections) , AO is quite hidden in the forum, an outer reader wouldn't find out without digging german threads, I don't know if it's done intentionally. I'm not good at all at using computer, but I don't even visualize partytreff section, nor by entry main page nor by "forum".
Being a Whormany beginner and a computer illiterate I fully fit the description of the subject and qualify to express my opinions.
Greetings to all debaters[/QUOTE]EastGoing,
Greetings to my Moscow forum friend. Nice post and I agree.
FYI, I have been to Angilique twice last summer. I reported on one of my visits here. I did AO and enjoyed it immensely. The girls there are as good or better than the girls at many smaller FKKs. Also, they provide excellent GFE service. Better than most FKKs.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1100-Other-FKK-Clubs&p=1307391#post1307391
But AO is not only in the AO clubs for sure. I have seen at least 60 different FKK girls over the last 16 months, probably more, and I have done AO with at least 20 of them. Almost every girl that has been an exceptional kisser has also been willing to do AO with some gentle persuasion. I rarely go to the big Frankfurt clubs as the service is lacking IMHO. Go to the right clubs and find the right girls.
Sakura in Stuttgart and Heaven in Nuremburg have been good for me for regular FKKs.
[QUOTE=Myrrh;1430345]It should be borne in mind that some of the girls at Angelique (including Deea and Arianna) moved there from Club la Luna, the club famous for it's 'any guy can just simply walk in off the street and participate in a 4-girl bareback sperm donor gangbang session'. So hardly classy.[/QUOTE]It seems to me that the only think different is AO. I have participated in 4-girl gang bangs at "classy" upscale FKKS and I walked in off the street? What makes any FKK classy? Pfffff.
[QUOTE=Breadman;1432083]Dorsten is now a pure AO club?[/QUOTE]No. PT Dorsten and FKK Alina are two seperate places. (And I've been to neither.) But you can see the different adresses on their websites:
[url]http://www.fkk-alina.com/index.php/A.Impressum.html[/url]
[url]http://www.partytreff-dorsten.de/[/url]
AO is available at FKK-Alina "if the girl offers it". They seem to be self-employed entrepreneurs there, like the girls are at LaLuna Moers.
PT Dorsten is still a rubber-club. Even if Sexy-Susi is there, she does only Condom-Gangbangs.
[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1432588]No. PT Dorsten and FKK Alina are two seperate places.[/QUOTE]I wrote about Alina. I did not even know that PT Dorsten exists.
Thats right swingerl. Dorsten was by the way the worst place I've ever been to, even though Laureen pink was there, being fucked by 30-40 guys from the middle east, I didn't bother. Alina was quite ok, with one good provider and one oh my god provider! Both young and looking quite good, nearly fkk standard. Service of the oh my god, was above. The rest of the girls didn't seem that interesting, unfortunately. Nice meeting you at krefeld Sunday, by the way! Scandinavian dude here.