Guadalajara

DanTheMan and I are planning AlleyKat 53 in Guadalajara. How is the weather? I'll be seeing my all time fav the FABULOUS Kenia. A true princess. A real beauty. She stole my heart. I can't wait. I'm giggling like a silly child.

Country John

During a recent 3 day business trip to Guadalajara, I considered it my duty towards the members of this forum to do some basic research about topics concerning our hobby ? the posts of the last half year lack some hard information. To be frank, own experience during these days was limited, but I think I can present valuable reference material that probably make things easier to my successors. The reference section of this post might get amended a few days after the initial post, when I am back home, so check in again.

Preface: I am spoilt. My standards are set by top class German FKK?s like Palace or Schieferhof, and by the lovely chicas of Buenos Aires. Both quality- and pricewise. Concerning the latter, U$S 250,- buy 1.5 hours in the FKK?s, including admission, or 3 to 4 very satisfying sessions in Argentina. All prices mentioned in this report are in US ? Dollars. More preface, I speak spanish, far from fluent, but enough to take me through several Buenos Aires dinners with an extremly juicy dessert.

Preparing my trip, I started by collecting information on the Net. It is quite easy to find a few escort sites in Mexico, but unfortunately 99.9% of the ads in these sites are for Mexico city. Some have sections for other cities, for example Preciosas, but the entries for Guadalajara are, politely said, of overseeable quantity.

Googleing ?escorts guadalajara? results besides the usual spam 2 sites, chicasmg and modelosgalilea. The layout of these sites is so similar that I suppose it might be the same agency behind it ? they ARE agencies, not a site of individually advertising independent girls. Deeper net research puts out a few more, i.e. venecia and tapatias, and a few independent girls. To be mentioned is directorio, a search engine that can be fed among other criteria with a city name. The database behind it may however be outdated, many of the links in search results led into digital nirwana.

I sent emails to about 6 girls and got 3 responses. Seemed to be a decent score, and armed with that and some downloads on the laptop I arrived in GDL.

Day1:
Decided not to use one of my email results, but to get Naomi flom venecia instead. Called, a guy speaking very understandable spanish answered and told that he was making the appointments of Naomi, and, yes, she would be available, It would, however, not be easy to get through security of my hotel. I gave my room number. 5 min. later, he called back, to confirm. 15 min later another guy with nuch less ujnderstandable spanish called, talked a lot, and I destilled out of that, that they would be coming. 15 more minutes later, a knock at my door, and the pimp asked me to come downstairs to have a look.

Look: either (5% probability) Naomi ate far too many tacos since the pictures on the website have been taken, or (95%) plain bait and switch. I agreed anyway, up we went and started the desaster of my life. Undressed, she laid on the bed and passively waited what to happen. No kisses, not much caressing, a hint of a CBJ, cowgirl, whatever was left of my woody went away. Venecia not to be recommended.

What I did do on day one was call my favourite email result, lardiente. Her website sounds a bit semi ? pro, and lets expect a GFE, and in the mail she asked for a day?s advance notice. Reached her, and agreeds that I would call the next day arounf 7 pm to set up details.

Day2:
At 7, I called lardiente. She answered the phone, and we agreed to meet that night. I told her in which hotel I stayed, and she did not know it. Asked for a street address. The notepad besides the hotel phone had only a PO Box. I wanted to f**k on my bed, not a box. Went on searching for the f**king address. Suddenly, the phone went dead. No big deal, happens sometimes with cellphones. Since then I tried to call her every 5 minutes while not working or sleeping, and always got the message that the number called would be temporarily not available, and I would be suggested to try later?.

After about an hour, when I could repeat the message in spanish backwards, I started to call backups. No. 2 of my email canidates answered. According to the background noise, she was in heavy combat with some video game. She knew my hotel, but decided that it was way too far ($ 7,- taxi from downtown) and went on shooting.

After another hour of listening to at least 6 varieties of the ?not available? message ? one per cellphone service provider - I decided to try one of the agencies and called chicasmg. After some discussion with the girl who answered the phone (which girl is is available ? almost everyone ? girl no. 35 ? oh, unfortunately not?..) she decided to get someone who speaks english. This apparently invoked Gringo pricing. I got a quote of $ 230,- which I declined.

I called it a day (or, better, night) and went to bed unf***ed.

Day 3:
Lardiente?s cellphone seems to be in need of major repair. The different backup?s also. I had no desire to add to my collection of ?not available? messages, and took the phone book, Yellow Pages. Under ?esteticas masculinas? (Yes, in Guadalajara brothels are disguised as barber shops, maybe you really can get a hair cut) I found one called ?Thailand?, over which I already had stumbled on the net, with a really nice ad promising the most beautiful girls for the distinguishing gentleman, and at least 10 cities where they would be, and an address, ?installations open 24 hrs?.

Took a taxi, went there. Unmarked building, inside - a barber shop, including the chairs. A middle aged woman, who was a bad example of the result of ungoing abuse of mexican food, took me upstairs into a room with a massage table, a jacuzzi, and a shower and exlained the price structure. I asked her to see the girls. 3 of them presented themselves, rated between 2 and 4. I took the 4, full service, $ 80,-. What happened was a decent massage, CBJ, and cowgirl. The distinguishin gentleman in me, who had expected a selection of maybe 20 chicas ranged 6 to 9 to enjoy on premises or take out remained a bit unsatisfied.

Bottom line:
My opinion: Guadalajara is NOT a mongering destination. Maybe there are gems to be found, but I just did not find them.

Day 4:
I am on a flight to Mexico City. There might be more in that section.


Reference:

First, the various websites mentioned in the text above:
Preciosas: [url]www.preciosasxxx.com[/url] - a site with escort ads, mainly Mexico City
Chicasmg: [url]www.chicasmg.com[/url] escort agency in Guadalajara
Modelosgalilea: [url]www.modelosgalilea.com[/url] - dto.
Venecia: [url]www.veneciagdl.com[/url] - dto.
Tapatias: [url]http://tapatias.20m.com[/url] dto
Directorio: [url]http://bd.servicio-x.com[/url] A searchable database of providers in Mexico
Lardiente: link comes soon


Straight out of Guadalajara?s Yellow Pages, unverified:

[url]www.misensación.com[/url]
[url]www.plebeyas.com[/url]
[url]www.intimoo.com[/url]

Is there ANY ACTIVITY of a mongering nature in the Lake Chapala area? I have had good luck several times in the GDL, but never had any good luck lakeside. Best I can report is a bored housewife type that I picked up at a bar near Chapala Country Club last November. But I have never found any commericial activity in any of the lakeside communities. Anyone else?

El Aleman, so sorry you had a bad experience in GDL. It can be a tough town to crack but you are right, there are some gems to be found.

My tact in a place like that is to bar hop. Get an early start and keep the drinking down, don't overload or you won't make it through the night to enjoy the sex.

I do this because the girls who are WORKING are probably working the clubs. Outcall means taking some chica away from her family or work to come by the room. some are just getting out of bed, some are enroute to a club etc. You get my drift.

For a few bucks you can hire a taxi for the evening to shuttle you around and you can change cabs if you think you are getting ripped.

Hopefully next time you'll have a better experience. I left my heart in Guadalajara.

Country John

El Aleman,

What a nightmare! I think it is time to change your technigues and tactics. There are countless Esteticas that employ young, beautiful, eager to please girls.Ask any cabbie in town - he will be more than happy to show you many! Simply driving the main Avenues will reveal many if you don't like cabbies.

Prices range from 450 pesos to 1000 pesos. You will have your choice of Chicas. Pick one that suits your taste, and she will do nearly anything that pleases you. They are trained to make you happy. Paying over 800 pesos is a waste, the best girls do not necessarily cost the most. Propinas are optional, and for all our benefit, give only when exceptional service has been rendered.

There are five times as many Men's Club's as there are Esteticas. Some are huge clip joints, some employ only Gorditas, but many are a barrel of fun. Be patient and not afraid to walk out and move on to the next joint. You can indulge on site or make arrangements for another time as you please. There are many, many beautiful Chicas to be had. 90% of the time you will be able make your deal with them without an intermediary.

Have fun and good hunting.

I agree with Marty 2. I have now visited GDL three times in the past two years, and my Spanish vocabulary can be counted with two hands.

Visits to Esteticas have worked best for me. I have no trouble explaining what I am interested in, and the selection of sweethearts is always reasonable. There are many MPs to chose from, and I have no problem walking out if I don't like the selection available! I fomerly went to High Class, but after they raised their prices, I have visited several others in the neighborhood north of the Sears store. I have never paid more that 500 P, and always come away happy.

Just got home from another great day in Guadalajara. Went to High Class mid-afternoon, and yes, thay have raised their prices. From 450 to 500 pesos. The 45 bucks there is a bargain! After High Class stopped at 3-4 men's clubs.

Back to HC. There were 6-7 girls to choose from, and my best estimate is that there were 3 or 4 more occupado. No gorditas today and nothing less than a 6. I opted for Monica. Face = 10. Body = 8. Attitude = 9. Personality = 10. Talent = 8.

Started out with a 5 minute English class. I had won her over and then went to a little get to know, you touchy - feely. Then came the bbj, oral installation of the condom, and a great ride. Upside down, right side up, sideways, all wonderful. Finished her off (or did she finish me off?) doggie style, with us watching ourselves in the mirror. While showering and dressing afterward she invited me to accompany her to a club on Federalisimo, the name of which I cannot remember, sometime in the future. My Spanish is approx 60%, and as best I understood her explain, there were dancers on stage, a male & female that after a time, they did the wild thing in front of all. Couples then paired up with other couples, went elsewhere in the building and then went at it with their new found horney friends. Because I will be in Vallarta next weekend and Aguascalientes City the following, this place will have to wait. I will report if I do get there.

Try High Class, you will like it. I guarantee it! The owner is there most of the time, his name is Pancho. He sits at a desk in the front. Showing him a little respect will help your cause. He likes to take a few breaks at the cantina next door. I once bought him a cerveza and he is now my friend for life.

Great move, Marty 2 with Pancho. I've seen him there, but was always on the phone when I walked in. Stopped to speak to him while walking out a few months ago, but another customer walked in, and he acted like he was greeting his long-lost-brother. Maybe that was you! Anyway, catching him at the bar next door was a great move. I'm sure his has already showed his appreciation. I will give HC anaother chance, based upon your recomendation.

Have you tried Estetica Jovi, a few blocks west of HC? They want $900 P, but the ladies are step up from HC. Not sure if the additional $$ is worth it tho. I have had excellent luck at both Geisha Masculine and at Nefertiti Masculine Estetica, just a few blocks North of the Sears store, near the Mission Carlton Hotel. Generally $350P plus a $50P tip if you're happy. A little more difficult to find, but worth it, IMHO.

Have you had any luck at the Hotel Paris? That is on my short list for my next visit to the area, May 20th thru May 30th.

Thanks for the reccomendations World Wise. Of the places you mention, Jovi is the only is the only one that I have visited. I will check the other two out in the near future.

My first trip to Jovi was a great success. Gorgeous young, very young, chica. My second visit was a walk-out. Only two or three chubby, rather unattractive girls available. Rather than wait for a good one to become available, I went the short distance to HC.

I should tell you that the next time you visit HC, ask for Paloma. She will rock your world! There is one other very special girl whose name escapes me at the moment. Shaved beaver that is oh so sweet. I will let you know her name when my alzheimers attack is over.

Will you stay at the Hotel Paris while here? I have never been there.

I will share some of my Men's Club experiences in Guad at a later date. There are a couple to avoid like the plague. There are also a few that I have seen while driving, but never visited.

Marty 2, No, I stay at a B&B out in Tlaquepaque called Don Jose. It is a lovely area, but real accessible to the city, plus to the Lakeside area.

I have not visited it, but I understand Hotel Paris is a bar that has our type of ladies, safe, and reasonable. I plan to seek it out when I visit GDL in May. I was just wondering if you had any experience with Hotel Paris.

i've been in rooms in the hotel paris a couple of times, years ago, and if this is the same place, i'd highly recommend you don't stay there. it's a *****house, and the rooms are skanky. so are the women. although i've gone with two, in maybe 5 or 6 visits i've run across a grand total of one i'd truly call attractive (7 or higher). unfortunately she was occupied at the time. again, if we're talking about the same place (located close to downtown tourist district and lipstick), it didn't seem like a particularly safe neighborhood either.

i've been to gdl a lot on business, and as such wasn't having to watch the pocketbook too closely. quinta real is by far nicest place i've stayed at. second place would be hilton. these places will run $150+. presidente (intercontinental) and crown plaza would be around $90-$120, and they're both nice, although a/c can be weak in both, depending on room. howard johnson's at $80 is o.k. hotel vista plaza del sol is relatively cheap, maybe $60, and nicely located, although a/c is always a problem in summer.

i really like hotel tapatia, which is located on a hill between the airport and downtown. it's not expensive either, maybe around $50 to $70. it's kind of got a low class resort atmosphere, and you'd think you were in the country instead of the middle of a city. this place must cover about 40 acres. fantastic pool, tennis courts, lots of gardens, and a great view of the city at night. rooms are very large. it's located close to about 3 lower-priced strip bars on the road that goes to the airport. otherwise, location is lousy if you're going to be taking taxis. if you have your own car or are looking for a romantic spot, i'd definitely recommend it. and there's no walk of shame to your room -- you can drive your car right up to your room. in fact, this place is renowned as a location where people who are having extramarital affairs sneak away to, because it is secluded.

i think if i were going and were on a budget and were looking to monger, i might try the motel between jovi and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] esteticas -- great location, close to high class as well.

on subject of jovi, i've had good experiences there too, much better than [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url]. the women in jovi on average aren't quite as attractive, although usually you'll find at least one hottie. and the attitude of every chica i've had there was very good. gfe was the norm, and i can't recall ever having been rushed.

also, about the strip clubs, the prices for sex in higher end strip clubs are ridiculous, or at least they are in kaos and ramses. but most of the women realize this and will give you their phone numbers to set up something for the next day. the low end strip clubs aren't unreasonably priced. with regard to clubs close to hotel tapatia & airport mentioned in post below, i was quoted $50 to $60, but didn't partake. that's without negotiation.

great section btw. i haven't been able to post here until recently, but have benefited from material about guadalajara posted here.

thanks

Sorry, name of highly recommended hotel is "El Tapatio" , not Tapatia.

Rest assured, Tiny, that I had no intention of staying there, but only 'mongering' there. I will check it out next month when I visit GDL in May.

i noticed on my last visit to gdl that the holiday inn select is within reasonable walking distance to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] and high class. there is also a mens club down the street from the hotel (sorry, but i have not been there or remember the name).

[quote=tiny 12]i've been in rooms in the hotel paris a couple of times, years ago, and if this is the same place, i'd highly recommend you don't stay there. it's a *****house, and the rooms are skanky. so are the women. although i've gone with two, in maybe 5 or 6 visits i've run across a grand total of one i'd truly call attractive (7 or higher). unfortunately she was occupied at the time. again, if we're talking about the same place (located close to downtown tourist district and lipstick), it didn't seem like a particularly safe neighborhood either.

i've been to gdl a lot on business, and as such wasn't having to watch the pocketbook too closely. quinta real is by far nicest place i've stayed at. second place would be hilton. these places will run $150+. presidente (intercontinental) and crown plaza would be around $90-$120, and they're both nice, although a/c can be weak in both, depending on room. howard johnson's at $80 is o.k. hotel vista plaza del sol is relatively cheap, maybe $60, and nicely located, although a/c is always a problem in summer.

i really like hotel tapatia, which is located on a hill between the airport and downtown. it's not expensive either, maybe around $50 to $70. it's kind of got a low class resort atmosphere, and you'd think you were in the country instead of the middle of a city. this place must cover about 40 acres. fantastic pool, tennis courts, lots of gardens, and a great view of the city at night. rooms are very large. it's located close to about 3 lower-priced strip bars on the road that goes to the airport. otherwise, location is lousy if you're going to be taking taxis. if you have your own car or are looking for a romantic spot, i'd definitely recommend it. and there's no walk of shame to your room -- you can drive your car right up to your room. in fact, this place is renowned as a location where people who are having extramarital affairs sneak away to, because it is secluded.

i think if i were going and were on a budget and were looking to monger, i might try the motel between jovi and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] esteticas -- great location, close to high class as well.[/quote]