Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Barko]This reply kind of stuck with me, had to run it through my alleged mind, it took a while. (Kind of like, "Let's throw this dead one out in the yard and see where the cat barfs it up. ")Soap Fan, you actually fault the mama for what you and I both know is completely standard Thai behavior? The reaction to this crap is a time associated, 'learned', response. I have a hard time faulting either side in this one.Thai broad BS'd the dude, (Thais do this without even thinking about it, ) dude listened. Happens millions of times a second here in LOS, right? Maybe a good thread to continue in the "Living in Thailand" forum: 'How to deal with Thai BS behavior on a daily basis'. You and I both know how it works, the "Thai's total addiction to untruths simply to maintain status quo" is a way of life for them, so it could be an important issue for future discussion. Too boring, well yeah sure, but centered educationally from the standpoint of the mongering Thai tourist newbies or people who are planning to move here.See, for us, we both know that the mama had no fucking clue on earth where Guitar was, she was just doing her typical Thai thing in trying to appease the farang. She did not see any lie associated with it all! Around 1985 an old guy that had driven his VW bug all the way to Chiang Mai from Munich Germany in 1956 once asked me, "How can you tell if a Thai girl is lying to you? " Answer: "Her lips are moving."[/QUOTE]As far as Geisha goes, I should have known better. I was just pissed the I wasted 30min of my free time. Below is an e-mail response from Geisha; Dear Sir We so sorry about that. Please, forgive and do not be angry to Geisha massage club. We're doing the business, So that we need customer and we never lie to customers. If you understand you will know that we so much worry and we care of any customer. When the customer booking the lady, we already confurm to the lady and she said O. K. No problem! She will come on time. So, if customer ask at the shop. For sure, the shop will answer to customer as same as lady told us. In finally. The lady came late. That is a problem! The shop can't guarantee that she will never late. If she staying inside the shop and made any things so late, that's meanning we never care of customer! But this is not. (She still out side the shop.)Please, hope you will understand and forgive to us. Kind regards Geisha massage clubFornic8

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Akane Chidlom's Hikaru & Yuko Posing ;)[/QUOTE]Nic,Great pics if Hikaru. Was in Chidlom two weeks ago with a different girl for a lunch special. She hit the shower at the end of the session while I showered on the (VIP) room. I couldn't wait so I left the room only to find my girl in the hallway wrapped in a towel and Hikaru there naked. Her body was increadable. I pulled Hikaru back into my room for a few minutes of DITY while my girl watched. She said her Jap customer was waiting for her. I went back to see her a few days later.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I don't like this term "Free-lancers" when applied to soapy girls, as even if they don't get a salary, they still must apply to work there and abide by the rules whatever they might be (usually complex). They only receive a portion of what customer pays and maybe subject to fines for all sorts of things including non-attendance.So they are not very "free" at all.True free-lancers have no boss that must be kow-towed to.Side-line sometimes means casual workers but not always.Other times its just a higher price category for girls sitting at the side (outside fishbowl).I don't recall ever meeting a Soapy girl that was paid a "salary" unless it was by a pimp who took all of her earnings. There is a monthly bonus (which could be viewed as salary by some) but its not automatic, it usually depends on doing a minimum number of customers.There may be girls on salary but I don't believe its normal for soapies. [/QUOTE]Bit touchy about the words "free lance". Read it properly! I never said they were free lance. I said "free lance basically". That means they get no salary so they have no real commitment. They can work when they like and finish when they like. They can work for other parlors. Umm. Sounds pretty free to me "basically"! BTW. I am talking about CP2. Quoted from the horses mouth. So to speak.

[QUOTE=Fornic8]As far as Geisha goes, I should have known better. I was just pissed the I wasted 30min of my free time. Below is an e-mail response from Geisha; Dear Sir We so sorry about that. Please, forgive and do not be angry to Geisha massage club. We're doing the business, So that we need customer and we never lie to customers. If you understand you will know that we so much worry and we care of any customer. When the customer booking the lady, we already confurm to the lady and she said O. K. No problem! She will come on time. So, if customer ask at the shop. For sure, the shop will answer to customer as same as lady told us. In finally. The lady came late. That is a problem! The shop can't guarantee that she will never late. If she staying inside the shop and made any things so late, that's meanning we never care of customer! But this is not. (She still out side the shop.)Please, hope you will understand and forgive to us. Kind regards Geisha massage clubFornic8[/QUOTE]I had the same experience like you with Dao. She was definitely lazier the last time I was there and I had to push her with the PSE that used to be a given. My new favorite place is now Angel Massage.

[QUOTE=Andy Abs]Bit touchy about the words "free lance". Read it properly! I never said they were free lance. I said "free lance basically". That means they get no salary so they have no real commitment. They can work when they like and finish when they like. They can work for other parlors. Umm. Sounds pretty free to me "basically"! BTW. I am talking about CP2. Quoted from the horses mouth. So to speak.[/QUOTE]No I'm not touchy. I am not having a go at you. Perhaps you are touchy? I was commenting as I have seen many people use the term "free lancers" (I should have stated this first I guess) and was giving my opinion. I used to be a regular at ChaoPhya 2 so have some idea about rules for the girls.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]I don't like this term "Free-lancers" when applied to soapy girls, as even if they don't get a salary, they still must apply to work there and abide by the rules whatever they might be (usually complex). They only receive a portion of what customer pays and maybe subject to fines for all sorts of things including non-attendance. [/QUOTE]CP has a different system. Sponsors bring them down, loan them money, then they pay off by working in the MP. The 'loan-payoff-loan-payoff' method does work, many have late model cars and most have very nice apartments.Sorry this thing ended so damm long winded, fuck it, here goes.[b]Massage girls as freelancers: [/b]I learned a lot from the girls that worked at CP2. They aren't really free-lancers but many can behave like it when outside of the workspace.I would call right after CP closing time and then take 2 or 3 with me to Hollywood or Dance Fever (Discos) where they would in turn meet up with other CP friends. We would take up an entire table, lots of chicks, and me. Johnnie Black would flow, real soft & easy and never any problems.Couple hours of dance stuff, (chicks would take turns doing stand up table style dances in my lap, impressing their friends with the shit they would come up with just to top the last one.) We would then head over to the "Pbaw Gkoong Bauw" seafood & "prawn fishing" restaurant, just across the road on the other side Ratchada (closed a while back.) Nicely set up in a large karaoke room, I would order tons of food and wash the place down with more drinks aplenty. Stretched out on the big couch with the girls taking turns spooning food into my mouth, I seriously felt like I had died and gone to heaven (Yep, I do like the company of the ladies.) The chicks initiating everything and flirting insistently.The girls would get wound up, shit faced, horny, and, hot to do something. They would sing and dance for each other, laugh like crazy and have a ball, (til the owner lady basically had to throw us out, smiling all the while because of the nice chunk of change she always made off me.)Patience big B, patience.No mauling of chicks breasts or putting hands up skirts, etc. , no macho rooster shit, no making a big show of money or acting like a bigshot, just simply acting like I was somebody's sweet but sexy uncle in tight jeans and nice shirt, doing a karaoke song or two, smiling, teasing a bit, then quietly paying the bill. They even got so they would call me "Uncle B" in Thai.At the end, I would then tell which of them were invited back to my place (no asking, no pleading, no 'Oh, I know, gee I have a great idea! " type stupid bullshit) I'd just say "them and Mae, we go home now, Tik, Pui, and Fon, here's cab fare, I really like you, thank you, I want you to come with us next time, only tonight Mr. B have just little power". More like a freakin soccer coach than the hardened one eyed trouser snake waiting in the grass to strike, the true monger man I really was. (Fuck me, I'm not James Bond, ergo this did not come easily, I learned how to do it from the chicks themselves.)There would be no argument, just lots of smiles and 'krahpoon chiaos' (Chiang Mai girls in BKK, what can I say? ) Also, there was no asking of how much, no bargaining, no talk about money of any kind.My place, I would put on some shit DVD video dance stuff down low, and get a fully dressed sexy sandwich thing going on, (which would always happen in front of the freakin refrigerator for some strange reason, go figure) then would lead to hot naked dance stuff all over the place with lots of kissing and shit, which would the turn into the same stuff in the shower, then wet sweaty gnarly tag team action on the floor covered with towels, then bed, kitchen tables, bathroom, etc. And fuckin A, I loved it.Maybe three hours of sleep, time for them to get back and get ready for work, I would shoot a hundred Baht for cab fare and a grand each. They would feign like they didn't want any money, but I would shove it in their back pockets, they didn't fight it, ever.Like I said, I learned a lot from those CP2 chicks. I got so I could go just about anywhere in Bangkok and do the same type of shit. Professional office chicks, college chicks, tech school chicks, and without knowing it at the time, even high school chicks. Kind of went through that phase for a year or so, then got totally bored of it, too many hangovers, too many lost nights, just too much of too much.Kind of fun to think about it now though. Thanks for reminding me.Oh, and when one of those chicks says "I don't want a boyfriend" it's not something you take seriously or the wrong way like they don't like you, they do like you, what they are saying is that they just don't NEED a boyfriend. What they really want is to snag a good hearted rich dude and sail off into the sunset, e. G. A husband.[b]Does that make the massage girls freelancers? Does that make half the female population of Bangkok under the age of 30 'freelancers'? [/b]Hmm. You make the call.

[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Yok was back at work from today, so must have recovered I guess. Sporting a couple of bruises though. Maybe you will get another chance. Nestle has a reputation for letting her mood show a little. So as the chemistry builds, the session gets better too as she is really getting into it.I have known girls who were not so special for first session but really got much better in subsequent sessions.But if chemistry is still not superb after 2 sessions, I usually give up.[/QUOTE]Yep can confirm she is fine again, she had accident through songkran.

If you want pictures of Ran Maru go back to 4-15 date. My girl is there. Sorry you see many girls. Could it be Songran or time of day you went. Try later in the afternoon

[QUOTE=Mackin]If you want pictures of Ran Maru go back to 4-15 date. My girl is there. Sorry you see many girls. Could it be Songran or time of day you went. Try later in the afternoon[/QUOTE]What does 4-15 mean :confused:Your history does not show any post of 4-15 nor any pics.

[QUOTE=Mp Lover]No I'm not touchy. I am not having a go at you. Perhaps you are touchy? I was commenting as I have seen many people use the term "free lancers" (I should have stated this first I guess) and was giving my opinion. I used to be a regular at ChaoPhya 2 so have some idea about rules for the girls. [/QUOTE]Yes maybe I am a little touchy. Too many things on my mind. I am probably seeing things as a personal attack. I am sorry. No offense meant. I think I have male PMT! Or maybe just one too many women in my life. Decisions. Decisions?

[QUOTE=Barko]Does that make the massage girls freelancers? Does that make half the female population of Bangkok under the age of 30 'freelancers'?Hmm. You make the call.[/QUOTE]I certainly can't deny that many Thai girls are freelancing outside of their normal work location. Thats just too obvious.Years ago I used to meet a CP2 girl regularly outside for nearly 3 years. She wasn't a sponsored girl so this gave her more freedom, but fines imposed for lack of attendance, and worse fines for missing weekend.She wanted me to buy her a house, car, and tit job, but I resisted all of those LOL. She got a few presents but nothing like that.

[QUOTE=Jp Traveller]Initially I was taken aback that there was no BJ in the shower, but, my oh my, how she made up for it when we came to the bed.[/QUOTE]Could be her bathroom slip has made her temporarily very cautious in the shower.

[QUOTE=Barko]There would be no argument, just lots of smiles and 'krahpoon chiaos' (Chiang Mai girls in BKK, what can I say? ) [/QUOTE]Ah you lost me again. I guess "chiaos" is Jao (nothern replacement for Khrap and Kha) but what is "krahpoon"?I would be expecting "Khawp Khoon" (or Khorp Khun) (meaning thankyou) but it doesn't seem close enough.

[QUOTE=Sad Sam]Looking at theri website, they seem to advertise balls massage! Is it in any way comparable to the one from Rin at Hana? Is the tip for the lady the usual 500/1000/1500 for a happy ending? Any girls known for their good service there? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No they are NOT good at all ! The girl will most likely try her best to fool you into agreeing to a ridiculous price. CBJ at best and very poor FS. I would avoid it, usually.

I gave missed you everytime I am at LL. Will meet someday I assume. 4-15 means April 15. Some one posted the correct address for Ran maru on that date. So just back track and get the correct address. i did not post the pictures but someone was saying they couldn't get any pictures without their heads missing. I just tried to point them in the correct direction