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[QUOTE=Innovation]How can one reasonably determine such is not the case?[/QUOTE]By not accepting a police formal caution, and going to court.

Then your saviour will be the girl's evidence, that she is not forced, coerced, or controlled, to have had sex with you.

[QUOTE=Innovation]How can one reasonably determine such is not the case?[/QUOTE]Avoid areas in East London and other inner city areas ,where you wouldn't feel safe at night.

[QUOTE=Jojosun]Avoid areas in East London and other inner city areas ,where you wouldn't feel safe at night.[/QUOTE]
Like Romford Road / Green Street and the Commercial Street / Whitechapel / Brick Lane area which used to be a gold mine for this sort of stuff. Maybe the Brixton area too?

[QUOTE=Jojosun]By not accepting a police formal caution, and going to court.

Then your saviour will be the girl's evidence, that she is not forced, coerced, or controlled, to have had sex with you.[/QUOTE]
Most of us would not like to be exposed in the press as regular customers of prostitutes...even if they are not "coerced"...
Knowing English tabloids, you can be sure that paparazzi would be at your doorstepon the day your case is heard, and even if you win th case with the court, you may not win it with your colleagues, family and friends..

I think this law will definitively, at least in the beginning, slow down activity in places like Soho, and the East End. Probably less in MPs, where, in any case, there is offcially no sexual services (!!). And will probably benefit well established places like LMP.

[QUOTE=Dreams]Most of us would not like to be exposed in the press as regular customers of prostitutes. Even if they are not "coerced".

Knowing English tabloids, you can be sure that paparazzi would be at your doorstepon the day your case is heard, and even if you win th case with the court, you may not win it with your colleagues, family and friends.

I think this law will definitively, at least in the beginning, slow down activity in places like Soho, and the East End. Probably less in MPs, where, in any case, there is offcially no sexual services (!). And will probably benefit well established places like LMP.[/QUOTE]It is a fucking stupid piece of legislation.

Massage Parlours staffed by orientals mainly from main land China, would be a prime target, I would have thought.

Since it is in these places, the likely girls are to be found.

Coerced, forced, controlled for gain by the triad gangs?

[QUOTE=Jojosun]It is a fucking stupid piece of legislation.

Massage Parlours staffed by orientals mainly from main land China, would be a prime target, I would have thought.

Since it is in these places, the likely girls are to be found.

Coerced, forced, controlled for gain by the triad gangs?[/QUOTE]
In Chinese MPs, those hidden behing Chinese medicine shops, although I certainly agree that sometimes, girls may not be totyally free, then police will have first to demonstrate that there are sexual services exchanged, since this law only applies if there are such services. It happens that I do not ask for such services in those shops, when I don't have good vibes with the provider. Why would I then be condemned for an innocent legit massage?
I am not going to the Soho walk ups since some time, just because I had the feeling that the girls were not there on their own will. I would think that those will be the prime targets.
Similkarly, some places run by orientals Mam-san renting out 1 or 2 girls in private flats, are surely also a target. I, once, walked out of such a place, after being offered everything including anal by mama-san, to discover a shy, petrified provider, obvioulsy smuggled in from somewhree. Disgusting.

It cost me $2500 for two hours, although as noted I left after about 90 minutes because it was pointless to stay. For someone of Angel Dark's fame / looks, that is a reasonable rate in the US Market, which is seriously inflated over the UK, Europe, and most of the rest of the world.

And I can understand all sorts of reasons she might not be up to par, including the one you stated, jet lag, etc. What I cannot accept is being charged $2500 for this pathetic perfomance. A Lady should either be prepared to deliver or she should not accept customers and their money!

[QUOTE=Bearsk]This sounds like a disaster.
How much did this cost you?

I can understand that Angel's pussy and tits might be sore after several days of pounding in a SFV hotel but ....[/QUOTE]

i guess you paid upfront?
sounds like a scam.

[quote=elkefaylepeep]it cost me $2500 for two hours, although as noted i left after about 90 minutes because it was pointless to stay. for someone of angel dark's fame / looks, that is a reasonable rate in the us market, which is seriously inflated over the uk, europe, and most of the rest of the world.

and i can understand all sorts of reasons she might not be up to par, including the one you stated, jet lag, etc. what i cannot accept is being charged $2500 for this pathetic perfomance. a lady should either be prepared to deliver or she should not accept customers and their money![/quote]

Difficult to say how many oriental women are "working" in the UK under their own steam, probably very few. Either way they have to pay something. They may have gotten involved in drugs at some point, or their family got into debt.

I would guess about 1 in 50 are truly independent and working on their own.

Trying to prevent demand by arresting punters isn't going to work, now we have the added thrill of maybe getting busted while getting our end away.
If the immigration authorities were doing their job properly, then the numbers of trafficked women would be small.

For punters, be discerning, if you think a girl is there under force don't go there again. Easy.

As for plod do your worst, barking up the wrong f***ing tree as usual.

[QUOTE=Phoenix22]Difficult to say how many oriental women are "working" in the UK under their own steam, probably very few. Either way they have to pay something. They may have gotten involved in drugs at some point, or their family got into debt.

I would guess about 1 in 50 are truly independent and working on their own.

Trying to prevent demand by arresting punters isn't going to work, now we have the added thrill of maybe getting busted while getting our end away.
If the immigration authorities were doing their job properly, then the numbers of trafficked women would be small.

For punters, be discerning, if you think a girl is there under force don't go there again. Easy.

As for plod do your worst, barking up the wrong f***ing tree as usual.[/QUOTE]
...which means, if we follow your logic, that we cannot go anymore to oriental pussy, since 98% of them may not be ehre on their own will...

I have been using the some of the oriental agencies for a while. First Oriental Gems and then A1-Asian. Both were closed down during the last crack down. However it seems like most of the girls just moved to other agencies.

I hear different stories from different girls. One girl I met with A1 provided all services with a smile and after the close down she workd as indie for a while. Then she told me that the agency took their passports and forced them to do anal. She is now back with one other agency.

One other girl I met was happy and she has almost finished the payments.

I do not know what is right and wrong. But even if the girls are not forced this is some how organized. See link below regarding a book about this topic.


[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/22298855/Diary-of-a-Thai-Escort-SAMPLE[/url]

[QUOTE=Jes007]I have been using the some of the oriental agencies for a while. First Oriental Gems and then A1-Asian. Both were closed down during the last crack down. However it seems like most of the girls just moved to other agencies.

I hear different stories from different girls. One girl I met with A1 provided all services with a smile and after the close down she workd as indie for a while. Then she told me that the agency took their passports and forced them to do anal. She is now back with one other agency.

One other girl I met was happy and she has almost finished the payments.

I do not know what is right and wrong. But even if the girls are not forced this is some how organized. See link below regarding a book about this topic.

[url]http://www.scribd.com/doc/22298855/Diary-of-a-Thai-Escort-SAMPLE[/url][/QUOTE]Just keep away from such girls.

[QUOTE=Jojosun]Just keep away from such girls.[/QUOTE]

It seems like that's the best thing to do. There are plenty of girls to choose from in London

Whilst I agree with other posters sentiments it would seem unlikely there will be any crackdowns/arrests in the immediate future. With the general election coming up, high publicity cases that give prospective voters the impression that London is crawling with illegal working girls is not exactly going to be good for government spin.

I'm NOT of course suggesting that anyone uses that as a window of opportunity to take un-necessary risks etc, it's merely an observation.

Davepuppy,

Can you provide contact of these two girls?