Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Sammon;1923905]But in Sosua word got around at the resorts where normal tourists stay that prostitution is rampant and not to go out to local places at night. Administration tried to control by closing bars etc but because of corruption none of the bars were closed for long.

Now at least for the time being administration is strict.

I believe in the long run government has to relent because the whole town of Sosua will be dead with high unemployment. All the hotels will close if there is no mongering. So too are the restaurants and bars. Whenever the nightlife is restricted in a small town business goes downhill. If is done in the hope of reviving regular tourist business it will fail. Just look at playa dorada resorts. There was no prostitution but still many are closed.[/QUOTE]You also have to understand Dominican Politicians and Government Officials are also catching heat and getting pressured from US Government. Remember the Dominican Republic Signed a NGO Anti-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] Pledge Started by the Bush Administration.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-prostitution_pledge[/URL]

They receive millions of dollars in Government aid from the US. From time to time they have to look like they are combating [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] / Prositiution Stopping the risk spread aids or they risk getting there funds restricted. So you might think these Politicians are stupid for cracking down on Prostitution but you have to understand the real money is in trying to Stop the Problem and not solving it. Kinda like the war on drugs. Its a money grab, these Politicians know they can never stop drug use, but there is a lot of money trying to stop it because it funds the legal system, from judges, Lawyers, Police, and it help fill Jails! Everybody gets a payday.

So if I'm your average Dominican Politician who do I want to please? Tourist mongering dollars? Or the US Government that send me millions of dollars to try to correct the problem?

Sosua is in bad shape in my opinion. I was there 10 days ago and all the bars are closing at 12 am during the week.

After 12. Am everybody heads down to the Casino which is the only place alcohol is served. Very smart concept on the governments part.

The police conduct periodic sweeps were they ride up the street and chase the girls off.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1923892]I will admit that prior to 2007 I was not even aware of the existence of the DR or Haiti as countries (I'm from the Midwest: wouldn't have known a Dominican or Haitian back then if one walked up to me and slapped me in the face). True testament as to how fucked up the school systems are in the US. When my history books covered the period of slavery, it did not mention anything about the fact that there were more african slaves taken to some country named "Brazil" than were brought to the United States. I did not even know Brazil had "black people" until I watched the movie "City of God".

Our history books were stripped down to be very "US-Centric", on purpose. You would be surprised how oblivious the average American is to the existence of most countries outside of the US if they did not come across it in a Hollywood action flick.

The average guy looking for info on sex tourism would have to know that the word "Sosua" is even a thing before googling it. Like I wouldn't go to google and type the word "dog" into the search box if I were not aware of the existence of the word "dog".

I actually found this forum (ISG) completely by accident in mid-2007 by googling "what do Dominican women look like?[/QUOTE]You don't find hookers by looking through history books.

Here's what you do: (or most 10 year olds anyway)

Google "Sex tourism". "Sex tourist" or "Sex tourist countries".

The very first listing after the WIKI definition of the phrase is "10 of the most popular countries for Sex Tourism".

The first large identified picture is Dominican Republic. No 10.

(But keep it quiet, between you and me. No point in having a lot of mongers, weekend warriors "making it rain", johns from all over the world, including Netherlands, Canada, the USA, Germany, the U.K. lining the streets on weekends)

As Mr. E says, "Most of the shit we find, we stumble upon by accident or word of mouth. Nobody just wakes up one day knowing they want to go to Sosua to find chicks. ". Let's just keep it that way!

Although I'd hate to ask him how he manages to find a toilet if he wants to take a shit :)

[QUOTE=Adinga;1923939]Sosua is in bad shape in my opinion. I was there 10 days ago and all the bars are closing at 12 am during the week.

After 12. Am everybody heads down to the Casino which is the only place alcohol is served. Very smart concept on the governments part.

The police conduct periodic sweeps were they ride up the street and chase the girls off.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I hear you can't even find a bar TV showing a live Superbowl, World Cup Soccer game, or even my favorite the Stanley Cup Finals.

Is it the end of sports and hookers in Sosua?. Or is it just August? :)

[QUOTE=Oakie;1923796]The word has been out for a long time about Sosua. At least since ISG made it one of the busiest boards in their forums, many years ago.

When I first went there 9 years ago, I couldn't believe so many part timers and semi pro hookers in one spot at the same time!

There's no shortage of hooker destinations in the world, but fresh, semi pros, newbies and part timers, where nobody thinks twice about an old 80 year old fart with a 20 year old beauty walking hand in hand back to the New Garden, not so much!

Nothing new here, move along citizen!

Every year, in the slow season, folks (who mostly don't even go there) predict the demise of our Hooker Paradise.

Seems they just can't help themselves.[/QUOTE]Slow season or not the way I see it is the demise is definitely on the horizon. In my books the reason is the the change in the mongers; now there are too many loud mongers who lack decorum and discretion. No venue in the world will continually allow in your face p4 p with that sort of clientele.

[QUOTE=Turgid;1924120]Slow season or not the way I see it is the demise is definitely on the horizon. In my books the reason is the the change in the mongers; now there are too many loud mongers who lack decorum and discretion. No venue in the world will continually allow in your face p4 p with that sort of clientele.[/QUOTE]Don't worry.

It is safe to say that hookers care more about dinero, than "lack of decorum" or "discretion".

You guys slay me.

Johns, tricks, and marks are not usually noted for their "decorum"!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1923892]
The average guy looking for info on sex tourism would have to know that the word "Sosua" is even a thing before googling it. Like I wouldn't go to google and type the word "dog" into the search box if I were not aware of the existence of the word "dog".
[/QUOTE]Absolutely, and even among men who are interested in sex tourism, a significant percentage (perhaps as many as 50%) believe that the is a place called "Sousa", which will reveal absolutely nothing if Googled. Of course, if you Google "sex tourism" you will probably find a mention of Sosua sooner or later.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924124]Don't worry.

It is safe to say that hookers care more about dinero, than "lack of decorum" or "discretion".

You guys slay me.

Johns, tricks, and marks are not usually noted for their "decorum"![/QUOTE]I sense there is a need for a monger school to teach those ("others", you know who we are talking about, nudge, wink) how to monger respectfully and with decorum. Also how not to spoil the market for cheapskates who won't spend a dime more than they have to to get laid.

I would suggest there would be more than a few volunteers from here, that would step in, if asked! .

[QUOTE=Adinga;1923939]Sosua is in bad shape in my opinion. I was there 10 days ago and all the bars are closing at 12 am during the week.

After 12. Am everybody heads down to the Casino which is the only place alcohol is served. Very smart concept on the governments part.

The police conduct periodic sweeps were they ride up the street and chase the girls off.[/QUOTE]A saying I use. Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit. Is it absolutely necessary that individuals have to be out in the street 2 - 4 in the morning, to eat, drink and pick up women? Why can't the same individuals get whatever they want accomplished by 12 AM? And why is certain venues closing at 12 AM partially representative of Sosua being in bad shape?

IMO that mainly applies to individuals who can't or won't adapt to a schedule change. Speaking for myself. As an adult, I have always been an early riser and early to be home. When I was young I partied and hung out until 5 am in NYC. Rode the iron horses to get home. Now, in order for me to be out after 12 AM, I would have to prepare for it. Go to bed at 7 PM and wake up so I would be rested. Not being a night owl, you usually won't find me out past 12 AM unless I choose to. Or perhaps to drop off a chica. So venues closing at 12 AM aint no threat to my monger activities or my livelyhood. Nor for the hundreds of other mongers not impacted directly by venues closing early.

In the day, a dude can meet a chica, take them then, or make arrangements for later. Talent can be found on the beach in the day. Take them then, or hook up later. From 8 pm to 12 am a guy should be able to make a hookup with at least one freaking chica? Besides, if you pay attention, you see more than enough guys sitting around fucking bullshitting. Drinking, talking etc, just because. They may be at the bar, club or restaurant or the beach. They arent focused on taking anybody. And chicas are usually nearby sitting around like a "Hey Love" commerical waiting to be picked up. Or walking around like extras in a movie. If muggs are going to be sitting around for hours flossing or socializing, what's the big deal over a bar / club closing at 3 am, when you could have had that same chica at 12 am. Or hooked up hours before?

If guys are too lazy or too set in their ways to get up and out to make hookups between 9 pm and 12 am, or can't make connections during the day, they are the ones in bad shape, not Sosua. Is it that important that one has to be filled with alcohol after 12 midnight in order to have a good time? Are muggs forgetting to eat earlier in the evening? But they need to get a meal at 2 am? Is a chica going to look any better at 3 am, than she did at 12 midnight. (some would say yes, after enough alcohol LOL) . Or are muggs holding out until the pussy rental price drops? WTF is the issue here?

I have never really understood why some people have a hard time adapting and still be able to get their needs met? Now as far as the impact on business for the bars, restaurants and clubs, I fully understand their concerns. They make good money on the night owl bunch. However not having business past 12 am doesn't necessarily mean that Sosua is in bad shape. For one, many businesses IMO need to learn about providing better customer service. Bourbon Street restaurants success for the time being isn't a by product of their staff being well trained in customer service. Their business and pedestrian traffic picked up mostly due to the closing of other places. If Rumba reopened, Bourbon Streets business volume would drop ( slowly at 1st, then pick up ) as soon as guys and chicas started hanging back in Rumba or Rumba restaurant outside.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1924129]Absolutely, and even among men who are interested in sex tourism, a significant percentage (perhaps as many as 50%) believe that the is a place called "Sousa", which will reveal absolutely nothing if Googled. Of course, if you Google "sex tourism" you will probably find a mention of Sosua sooner or later.[/QUOTE]Sooner pal, mucho sooner!

Google Sex Tourism, Sex Tourist or Sex Tourism Countries.

First page, first article (after WIKI definition).

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924124]Don't worry.

It is safe to say that hookers care more about dinero, than "lack of decorum" or "discretion".

You guys slay me.

Johns, tricks, and marks are not usually noted for their "decorum"![/QUOTE]It is not so much the hookers who care as the general population and politicians. However even in the US, although I have never visited a hooker from Backpage, I have looked at some of the ads, and the women will often make certain stipulations as to the kind of men they are willing to see, for example age restrictions, and other restrictions.

I have never been to other sex tourism countries other than Amsterdam, but from what I saw there the people in the red light district behaved about the same as tourists anywhere in the world. I have not been to Thailand, so cannot say what the standards of decorum are like there or in Brazil.

Interesting story in the media about US Olympic swimmers who were possibly robbed by a group of men dressed up as cops while on their way home from a late night party. Reading between the lines, I would say they spent the missing hours at a brothel, one of them lost his wallet, and the robbery story was made up for the benefit of the girlfriend, but went badly wrong. (Probably worth while making a note to self not to allege that you have been robbed by men in police uniforms when traveling overseas in case the robbery is investigated by men in police uniforms.).

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924130]I sense there is a need for a monger school to teach those ("others", you know who we are talking about, nudge, wink) how to monger respectfully and with decorum. Also how not to spoil the market for cheapskates who won't spend a dime more than they have to to get laid.

I would suggest there would be more than a few volunteers from here, that would step in, if asked! .[/QUOTE]Not necessary, but I think locals in Sosua have been put off by the overt nature of prostitution in Sosua. Remember that Sosua's oldest school is located right next to the prostititution bars. Would such a thing be tolerated in the US? I think you know the answer to that. Because prostitution is legal in the DR, some wide eyed mongers assume that prostitution is legal in the DR in the same way that gambling is legal in Las Vegas, and that it is completely out in the open, but in reality it doesn't work that way. So saying that you are "here for the girls" along with your father, uncles, and cousins, does not go down as well as just saying that you are in town to visit a girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1924136]Not necessary, but I think locals in Sosua have been put off by the overt nature of prostitution in Sosua. Remember that Sosua's oldest school is located right next to the prostititution bars. Would such a thing be tolerated in the US? I think you know the answer to that. Because prostitution is legal in the DR, some wide eyed mongers assume that prostitution is legal in the DR in the same way that gambling is legal in Las Vegas, and that it is completely out in the open, but in reality it doesn't work that way. So saying that you are "here for the girls" along with your father, uncles, and cousins, does not go down as well as just saying that you are in town to visit a girlfriend.[/QUOTE]It's slow season in Sosua. August!

Not enough on the ground reports to keep the board alive, so a little chance to blow off a little steam against a lot of the bullshit that I see building up over time.

My problem is that I talk to a lot of putas down there who can go on for hours with shared stories about the johns, trick and marks they come across. By my experience they are generally correct. Generally speaking I would sooner sit with a bunch of putas than a bunch of their marks, but that's just me!

I am respectful and polite, and I know how to say a firm no, without pissing people off, so I do not condone anything less in others. But government sanctioned mongering, will never be the same as a monthly book club meeting.

It attracts, gasp!, mongers! Johns, tricks, and marks. Not to mention lots of putas!

If you don't want lassaire fare prostitution with all it's baggage, I would suggest Amsterdam.

To try to impose your own standards on the local industry is a bullshit waste of time. Anyone who chooses to go there or to live there, should accept it for what it is, leave it, or run for office to change it!

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1924131]A saying I use. Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit. Is it absolutely necessary that individuals have to be out in the street 2 - 4 in the morning, to eat, drink and pick up women? Why can't the same individuals get whatever they want accomplished by 12 AM? And why is certain venues closing at 12 AM partially representative of Sosua being in bad shape?

IMO that mainly applies to individuals who can't or won't adapt to a schedule change. Speaking for myself. As an adult, I have always been an early riser and early to be home. When I was young I partied and hung out until 5 am in NYC. Rode the iron horses to get home. Now, in order for me to be out after 12 AM, I would have to prepare for it. Go to bed at 7 PM and wake up so I would be rested. Not being a night owl, you usually won't find me out past 12 AM unless I choose to. Or perhaps to drop off a chica. So venues closing at 12 AM aint no threat to my monger activities or my livelyhood. Nor for the hundreds of other mongers not impacted directly by venues closing early.

In the day, a dude can meet a chica, take them then, or make arrangements for later. Talent can be found on the beach in the day. Take them then, or hook up later. From 8 pm to 12 am a guy should be able to make a hookup with at least one freaking chica? Besides, if you pay attention, you see more than enough guys sitting around fucking bullshitting. Drinking, talking etc, just because. They may be at the bar, club or restaurant or the beach. They arent focused on taking anybody. And chicas are usually nearby sitting around like a "Hey Love" commerical waiting to be picked up. Or
walking around like extras in a movie. If muggs are going to be sitting around for hours flossing or socializing, what's the big deal over a bar / club closing at 3 am, when you could have had that same chica at 12 am. Or hooked up hours before?

If guys are too lazy or too set in their ways to get up and out to make hookups between 9 pm and 12 am, or can't make connections during the day, they are the ones in bad shape, not Sosua. Is it that important that one has to be filled with alcohol after 12 midnight in order to have a good time? Are muggs forgetting to eat earlier in the evening? But they need to get a meal at 2 am? Is a chica going to look any better at 3 am, than she did at 12 midnight. (some would say yes, after enough alcohol LOL) . Or are muggs holding out until the pussy rental price drops? WTF is the issue here?

I have never really understood why some people have a hard time adapting and still be able to get their needs met? Now as far as the impact on business for the bars, restaurants and clubs, I fully understand their concerns. They make good money on the night owl bunch. However not having business past 12 am doesn't necessarily mean that Sosua is in bad shape. For one, many businesses IMO need to learn about providing better customer service. Bourbon Street restaurants success for the time being isn't a by product of their staff being well trained in customer service. Thei business and pedestrian traffic picked up mostly due to the closing of other places. If Rumba reopened, Bourbon Streets business volume would drop ( slowly at 1st, then pick up ) as soon as guys and chicas started hanging back in Rumba or Rumba restaurant outside.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you have said. In my vew visits to Sosua, I've, never made it to Classicos, because it didn't get started till late. I was usually already hunting something, or in my room, taking care of business by then.

OTOH, if they are trying to make Sosua more family friendly, why are they soo concerned about places open after midnight? You would think they would encourage the adult activity, late at night, not during the family hours.

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924153]
I am respectful and polite, and I know how to say a firm no, without pissing people off, so I do not condone anything less in others. But government sanctioned mongering, will never be the same as a monthly book club meeting.

It attracts, gasp!, mongers! Johns, tricks, and marks. [/QUOTE]Right, but all those derogatory terms are part of the negative image of prostitution and don't say anything about the character of mongers per se. The only difference between mongers in general and men who are not mongers is that those who are mongers, for whatever psychological reasons, see nothing wrong with paying available for a variety types of sexual experiences that they cannot easily obtain on the free market, and obtain a certain kind of satisfaction from it that makes their lives happier, and have enough money to be able to do that. Now some mongers may be drunks, drug addicts, criminals, and so on, but being a monger does not necessarily define someone as being of any particular type of character or personality any more than being a tourist defines someone's personality.

I would take it for granted that individual mongers would favor models of prostitution that serve their own needs, but at the same time it is possible to be somewhat objective and be a monger without necessarily agreeing that mongering is a equal universal benefit to all societies. It comes down to that old cliche, 1. Would you want you mother or daughter to be a puta? If the answer is yes, 2. Would you actively promote her towards that career, perhaps by taking her to mongering areas on a kind of "take your daughter to work day" basis, so she could see what it was all about.

Probably many people would say something like: "Well if she really wanted to do it and had made her mind up, I would try to warn her of the possible hazards to her mental and physical welfare and health, but if she really wanted to do it I would accept her decision and support her as best I could. " But at the same time, they probably would not be telling all their friends. "Oh, I am so proud of my daughter. She started work as a hooker last week and already make $1500 off an old, fat guy. She is training for brothel management too. Good head on her shoulders. Chip off the old block. Just like her mama. ".