Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1924131]If guys are too lazy or too set in their ways to get up and out to make hookups between 9 pm and 12 am, or can't make connections during the day, they are the ones in bad shape, not Sosua. Is it that important that one has to be filled with alcohol after 12 midnight in order to have a good time? Are muggs forgetting to eat earlier in the evening? But they need to get a meal at 2 am? Is a chica going to look any better at 3 am, than she did at 12 midnight. (some would say yes, after enough alcohol LOL) . Or are muggs holding out until the pussy rental price drops? WTF is the issue here?[/QUOTE]The issue here is that people are on vacation and want to go out and party. What party do you know that gets started at 8 pm? Guys like Old Kool like to go into the club and dance with the girls.

You and I follow a different MO. I have been saying in the Pattaya thread for years that it is not brain surgery. You can walk into the disco and go up to a chick and say let's go and leave with her. No need to buy neither yourself nor her 1 drink. In and out like the movie Gone in 60 Seconds.

But guys on vacation are not trying to go that direct route. They want to buy bottles of liquor and champagne, eye different chicks, and celebrate. They want to do as they do back home, but be guaranteed to get some ass at the end of the night.

When you are living somewhere you are not taking the vacationers route. I'm counting the days til Camaro stops posting about going to Kviar. (Although I do know a guy who lives in Thailand and every night you will see him go through the discos - they are free to get in. For years I have never seen him buy a drink or anything; he just goes and walks around to show his face.) It is the same people night after night in those places. By now everyone should know Camaro, and Camaro should know everybody. When I go in a disco in Thailand, I collect numbers and like you, will just call one of them over another night about 8 pm or so to come spend the night with me. I have alcohol in my crib if I want to drink. No need nor desire to stay out at all times of the night.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1924165] I'm counting the days til Camaro stops posting about going to Kviar. (Although I do know a guy who lives in Thailand and every night you will see him go through the discos - they are free to get in. For years I have never seen him buy a drink or anything; he just goes and walks around to show his face.) It is the same people night after night in those places. By now everyone should know Camaro, and Camaro should know everybody. When I go in a disco in Thailand, I collect numbers and like you, will just call one of them over another night about 8 pm or so to come spend the night with me. I have alcohol in my crib if I want to drink. No need nor desire to stay out at all times of the night.[/QUOTE]I have been living in the Dominican Republic almost 2 years and I have posted about my various experiences in various destinations throughout the Island. It just so happens Kviar is 5 minutes from where I live and serves as a diversion when I am bored. I respectfully disagree with the comment that it is the same peope night after night in Kviar it is exactly the opposite. Yes there are regulars but the pro, semi pro and civilian talent varies from night to night. In fact that is one of the reasons for my posting about Kviar, it is in transition just as many establishments are in the Dominican Republic. As always my postings are intended to be informative and only for those who are interested.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1924161]Right, but all those derogatory terms are part of the negative image of prostitution and don't say anything about the character of mongers per se. The only difference between mongers in general and men who are not mongers is that those who are mongers, for whatever psychological reasons, see nothing wrong with paying available for a variety types of sexual experiences that they cannot easily obtain on the free market, and obtain a certain kind of satisfaction from it that makes their lives happier, and have enough money to be able to do that. Now some mongers may be drunks, drug addicts, criminals, and so on, but being a monger does not necessarily define someone as being of any particular type of character or personality any more than being a tourist defines someone's personality.

I would take it for granted that individual mongers would favor models of prostitution that serve their own needs, but at the same time it is possible to be somewhat objective and be a monger without necessarily agreeing that mongering is a equal universal benefit to all societies. It comes down to that old cliche, 1. Would you want you mother or daughter to be a puta? If the answer is yes, 2. Would you actively promote her towards that career, perhaps by taking her to mongering areas on a kind of "take your daughter to work day" basis, so she could see what it was all about.

Probably many people would say something like: "Well if she really wanted to do it and had made her mind up, I would try to warn her of the possible hazards to her mental and physical welfare and health, but if she really wanted to do it I would accept her decision and support her as best I could. " But at the same time, they probably would not be telling all their friends. "Oh, I am so proud of my daughter. She started work as a hooker last week and already make $1500 off an old, fat guy. She is training for brothel management too. Good head on her shoulders. Chip off the old block. Just like her mama. ".[/QUOTE]Phsychobabble from a disgruntled customer? LOL.

I'm a john, trick, mark that pays for sex with relative strangers. Because I am old and not married I worry less about STD, and such. In that respect I've been lucky.

I don't take pride in what I do (It doesn't define me) but it satisfies my carnal desires.

The game is as old as civilization.

Pardon me if I don't see it as some sort of hobby for intellectuals with "game", or an excercise in judgemental relative discretion. Or even a full time drag on my life. (I wouldn't live there).

The DR maybe.

This is one area where the cliche, "It's NOT rocket science, is valid.

Hookers and johns, is all it is.

Deal with it, and if you can't handle it for god's sake get out of Sosua. With your problems, I can't see why you would choose to live in a government sanctioned third world brothel.

There's a whole world out there!

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1924177]I have been living in the Dominican Republic almost 2 years and I have posted about my various experiences in various destinations throughout the Island. It just so happens Kviar is 5 minutes from where I live and serves as a diversion when I am bored. I respectfully disagree with the comment that it is the same peope night after night in Kviar it is exactly the opposite. Yes there are regulars but the pro, semi pro and civilian talent varies from night to night. In fact that is one of the reasons for my posting about Kviar, it is in transition just as many establishments are in the Dominican Republic. As always my postings are intended to be informative and only for those who are interested.[/QUOTE]Thanks for posting Camaro. Always current and interesting.

Don't be chased off the board by the usual suspects, amateur psychologists, and disgruntled ex mongers.

They haven't found a way to enjoy Sosua and they apparently hate anyone who does.

A lot of boards go this route!

But WE got OUR Sosua!

Peace!

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924079]You don't find hookers by looking through history books [/QUOTE]Who does that? What does this comment have to do with anything I posted?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1924256]Who does that? What does this comment have to do with anything I posted?[/QUOTE]Might be over your head, so I'll leave it to the reader to figure it out! :)

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924259]Might be over your head, so I'll leave it to the reader to figure it out! :)[/QUOTE]"It's a Canadian thing. You couldn't possibly understand." would have been an acceptable answer as well 🙃

[QUOTE=Oakie;1924238]Thanks for posting Camaro. Always current and interesting.

Don't be chased off the board by the usual suspects, amateur psychologists, and disgruntled ex mongers.

They haven't found a way to enjoy Sosua and they apparently hate anyone who does.

A lot of boards go this route!

But WE got OUR Sosua!

Peace![/QUOTE]Thanks, I really didn't understand the motive for his comment about me, asi es la vida.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1924424]Thanks, I really didn't understand the motive for his comment about me, asi es la vida.[/QUOTE]I don't know, summer doldrums, lack of pussy.

Whatever, some of the regulars are in foul moods these days.

(I can't resist poking them with a stick).

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1924280]"It's a Canadian thing. You couldn't possibly understand." would have been an acceptable answer as well 🙃[/QUOTE]The photo was telling. For once, a grown up boy has to ask Dad about Canada shows the doldrums the US education system is in. Also, the two attributes mentioned are extremely positive in my mind, except of course in those la la lands where they are infringement on freedom and toothless young people abound. What a sad state of affairs!

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1924483]The photo was telling. For once, a grown up boy has to ask Dad about Canada shows the doldrums the US education system is in. Also, the two attributes mentioned are extremely positive in my mind, except of course in those la la lands where they are infringement on freedom and toothless young people abound. What a sad state of affairs![/QUOTE]Stereotypical nonsense from Readers Digest.

Canada's gangland gun and drug crimes are routine and getting worse, and some of our eminent politicians go to the USA For medical care for themselves and their elders.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1924131]A saying I use. Where you stand on the issue depends on where you sit. Is it absolutely necessary that individuals have to be out in the street 2 - 4 in the morning, to eat, drink and pick up women? Why can't the same individuals get whatever they want accomplished by 12 AM? And why is certain venues closing at 12 AM partially representative of Sosua being in bad shape?

IMO that mainly applies to individuals who can't or won't adapt to a schedule change. Speaking for myself. As an adult, I have always been an early riser and early to be home. When I was young I partied and hung out until 5 am in NYC. Rode the iron horses to get home. Now, in order for me to be out after 12 AM, I would have to prepare for it. Go to bed at 7 PM and wake up so I would be rested. Not being a night owl, you usually won't find me out past 12 AM unless I choose to. Or perhaps to drop off a chica. So venues closing at 12 AM aint no threat to my monger activities or my livelyhood. Nor for the hundreds of other mongers not impacted directly by venues closing early.

In the day, a dude can meet a chica, take them then, or make arrangements for later. Talent can be found on the beach in the day. Take them then, or hook up later. From 8 pm to 12 am a guy should be able to make a hookup with at least one freaking chica? Besides, if you pay attention, you see more than enough guys sitting around fucking bullshitting. Drinking, talking etc, just because. They may be at the bar, club or restaurant or the beach. They arent focused on taking anybody. And chicas are usually nearby sitting around like a "Hey Love" commerical waiting to be picked up. Or walking around like extras in a movie. If muggs are going to be sitting around for hours flossing or socializing, what's the big deal over a bar / club closing at 3 am, when you could have had that same chica at 12 am. Or hooked up hours before?

If guys are too lazy or too set in their ways to get up and out to make hookups between 9 pm and 12 am, or can't make connections during the day, they are the ones in bad shape, not Sosua. Is it that important that one has to be filled with alcohol after 12 midnight in order to have a good time? Are muggs forgetting to eat earlier in the evening? But they need to get a meal at 2 am? Is a chica going to look any better at 3 am, than she did at 12 midnight. (some would say yes, after enough alcohol LOL) . Or are muggs holding out until the pussy rental price drops? WTF is the issue here?

I have never really understood why some people have a hard time adapting and still be able to get their needs met? Now as far as the impact on business for the bars, restaurants and clubs, I fully understand their concerns. They make good money on the night owl bunch. However not having business past 12 am doesn't necessarily mean that Sosua is in bad shape. For one, many businesses IMO need to learn about providing better customer service. Bourbon Street restaurants success for the time being isn't a by product of their staff being well trained in customer service. Their business and pedestrian traffic picked up mostly due to the closing of other places. If Rumba reopened, Bourbon Streets business volume would drop ( slowly at 1st, then pick up ) as soon as guys and chicas started hanging back in Rumba or Rumba restaurant outside.[/QUOTE]Years ago a mentor said If you are not in bed by midnight go home, this has served me well in travels all through the DR, Cuba, central and South America. Give me a fresh chica at 2 in the afternoon any day over a 2 am in the morning one. Got to go meet my chica here in el centro Medellin now at 2 pm.

[QUOTE=Camaro1257;1924177]I have been living in the Dominican Republic almost 2 years and I have posted about my various experiences in various destinations throughout the Island. It just so happens Kviar is 5 minutes from where I live and serves as a diversion when I am bored. I respectfully disagree with the comment that it is the same peope night after night in Kviar it is exactly the opposite. Yes there are regulars but the pro, semi pro and civilian talent varies from night to night. In fact that is one of the reasons for my posting about Kviar, it is in transition just as many establishments are in the Dominican Republic. As always my postings are intended to be informative and only for those who are interested.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for all your great reports on the DR, I will give you the poetic license to mention Kviar as much as want.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1924165]

When you are living somewhere you are not taking the vacationers route. I'm counting the days til Camaro stops posting about going to Kviar.[/QUOTE]But why? But why Mr. ENT? Why does Camaro or anyone have to be like you? If most of us were alike, the world would not be worth living. As long as a guy or gal, is having a good time, enjoying their life, the way they like it (and as long as it is legal) and they are decent human beings, why try to limit their choices in life?

I love Camaro and as you know too well, I too love to hit the clubs and discos. In Thailand, I also find chicas I like, but in the DR I almost never find any chica I like in a club. I just go there mostly to enjoy the ambience, the music, to dance and generally just be happy!

The chicas come to me before or after in the DR and I keep the two separate. In Pattaya, I am happy with some of the chicas I meet at IBar and Insomnia.

So, can't we all just each of us be happy in our way? Peace my man!

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1924280]"It's a Canadian thing. You couldn't possibly understand." would have been an acceptable answer as well 🙃[/QUOTE]Way too funny! I would have added: " it's an unarmed North Ametican freezing his butt off, but with health insurance, eh! ".