Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2256936]-snip-

I can't speak for other mongers, but I am very particular. I will say, there were plenty of good looking girls... but I was & will always be after a very specific classification of stunner.
that being said, i generally wouldn't be shocked if there were more top 1% stunners in bangkok than in pattaya. Bkk is a cool big city after all. like comparing New Jersey and New York City.[/QUOTE]I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.

Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257068]I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.

Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.[/QUOTE]I am at the other end of the spectrum I guess, there are times I walk into a bar and know that every girl for me is fuckable. Then there's times I go into a bar and know right off the bat its crap. So I do have some sort of minimum standards somewhere. I once took a drunk gogo girl who knew me from Sapphire who was pissed I never bought her a drink, met her at another gogo so there was no barfine and I thought to myself "I've never taken a drunk girl back to my room" and just went with it. Did her five times that night and gave her 2 k in the morning. Worth every penny.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257049]He apparently only pulled one girl from a go-go bar outside that small group of WS go-go bars and seemed to me to have been so bored by the experience he will likely not do it again any time soon. Unless the top (looking) girls move to other bars.

In many ways, Phazze93's bottom line conclusions about Pattaya as a mongering destination are more negative than mine. I actually allowed that the above average P4P girls in Pattaya would be "barely" acceptable to someone who is fine taking that level of girl in Bangkok. He took NONE who were not either from the pool of top (looking) girls in those particular WS go-go bars and one relatively close to them. NONE from any other venue option where those above average P4P girls work.[/QUOTE]

I took a few non-top girls from Palace, my 1st two nights. 1st one was a bust, 2nd was a good performer.
But to be honest, both girls were beneath me in terms of looks. Comparable to dating beneath you & these are girls aren't so dumb where they don't notice.
Especially considering they both asked me the same question the moment we got back to me room - "why did you pick me?" to which I responded "because I think you are one of the prettiest girls at palace".

I lied. And I think they could tell I was bullshitting. In my case, I've always found it a better experience when the girl believes she's on par in looks or above/higher
Otherwise, I feel like you'll either end up with a girl who knows you're bullshitting & won't come back for here again. In which case she doesn't try that hard.
OR you get a girl who, regardless of being aware of your bullshit. Tries really hard to please you in hopes of getting more from you in which case it turns out a bit boring like the girl I pulled from Whats Up.

Though I could be generalizing a bit.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257042]I was only asking if you ever did engage in bareback (BBFS+CIP) with those top quality girls.[/QUOTE]

Oh, no. Never have.
1 - don't want to risk catching anything & possibly then spreading something.
2 - don't want to risk knocking a girl up. ID feel bad, not the type of guy to just let the girl deal with a kid on their own. Whether the girl is a hooker or non-pro.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257068]I am very particular too, but not exclusively about the girls' looks. Not saying that is what you mean. But it does sound that way. I am generally interested in girls of a certain minimum (or higher) level of attractiveness or cuteness, does not have to be a top 1% stunner but above average at least, who will provide me with what I consider a True GFE. Demeanor counts for a lot as well. In terms of actual sexual services, that is basically either a genuine BBBJ+CIM or BBFS+CIP. That is where my being very particular comes in. If neither of those activities are in the mix, a top looking stunner is of no more interest to me in my room than a lovely potted plant.

Plenty of good looking girls? Other than the top (looking) girls who mostly work in those particular WS go-go bars and are otherwise almost non-existent in the eyes of anyone who does not frequent those bars, I can't say what passes for above average in Pattaya is anywhere close to what passes for that level of girl in Bangkok. Not in their level of looks or, in my experience, their quality of service. And I honestly believe there is a systemic reason for that and not a matter of random chance. Above average girls (for Pattaya) don't need to be as good looking or provide as competitive a quality of service as their Bangkok counterparts to get by and fit in with the typical Pattaya customer demographic.[/QUOTE]

No you're right and I agree. Its not just looks. What good is looks if she's not into it or isn't at least open to the possibility of having a decent time with a customer? But I never do BBFS + CIP. I think I might consider it if my stays were longer & I could build some kind of understanding / trust with a girl. THAT and she would have to be on birth control.

What I meant by "plenty of good looking girls" is. There are plenty that I would fuck & be fine with. But I don't go for just "fine" nor do I stay long enough to where I'm ok with accepting "fine".

[QUOTE=Breadman;2257111]I am at the other end of the spectrum I guess, there are times I walk into a bar and know that every girl for me is fuckable. Then there's times I go into a bar and know right off the bat its crap. So I do have some sort of minimum standards somewhere. I once took a drunk gogo girl who knew me from Sapphire who was pissed I never bought her a drink, met her at another gogo so there was no barfine and I thought to myself "I've never taken a drunk girl back to my room" and just went with it. Did her five times that night and gave her 2 k in the morning. Worth every penny.[/QUOTE]My point to EihTooms, yea there are a good amount of "fuckable" girls but only a handful that I'd classify as true stunners. Power to you for being able to fuck 5 times in a night lol.

I think I cap out at 3? Though each of my rounds are extended in time so by the 3rd round, I'm exhausted physically and my dick is sore hah.

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2257310]Otherwise, I feel like you'll either end up with a girl who knows you're bullshitting & won't come back for here again. In which case she doesn't try that hard.[/QUOTE]Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2257315]Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.[/QUOTE]I have heard from a reliable source some guys have gone back to the same girl 5 times. He hasn't mentioned it in any of his post. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2257315]Are most guys going back for the same chick like that? Most of the time when I fuck the same chick then it is because I fucked up and didn't remember fucking her until she brings it up later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RobJones;2257322]I have heard from a reliable source some guys have gone back to the same girl 5 times. He hasn't mentioned it in any of his post. LOL.[/QUOTE]

Yea I've gone back for the same girl multiple times on more than 1 occasion. Just depends on the girl. Looks / attractiveness, chemistry, etc.
Really not sure what the big deal about that is lol. Telling me to not fuck the same girl multiple times is like me telling you which girl you should be attracted to.
Is there really a "right way" to monger? Or better to just do whatever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want, w/ whoever the fuck you want so long as thats what satisfies you?
Or perhaps the stigma stems from mongers not being able to flex their e-peen w/ other mongers on how many hookers they've been able to pay to fuck them? lol please.

Personally, i'd rather fuck a 10 five times, than fuck five different 7's. That is unless I find myself surrounded by multiple 10's in which case i'd be more motivated to mix it up. Thats just me.
But hey, if fucking a different 7/average looking girl every night is you're thing, go for it. The fuck do I care lol.

If I only wanted to fuck different 7's all the time, I'd just stay at home in the US. But I monger so I can fuck 10's w/o any expectations/no strings attached from the girl - which is easier said than done w/ non-pros.
(Also less effort/work involved)

But on that note, what girl wouldn't want a handful of steady / consistent customers as opposed to fucking a new random stranger every night?

[QUOTE=Phazze93;2257310]-snip-

Oh, no. Never have.
1 - don't want to risk catching anything & possibly then spreading something.
2 - don't want to risk knocking a girl up. ID feel bad, not the type of guy to just let the girl deal with a kid on their own. Whether the girl is a hooker or non-pro.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your reply on that. In my case, I just can't finish wearing a condom, never could even when I was your age. Now I am 65! And, to make things even more impossible, I am fairly steeped in BBFS+CIP with good looking/cute (to my taste) Thai girls in their 20's and early 30's so it is just never going to happen that I will now slip on a condom and feel horny for whatever is in front of me. I doubt you have been reading my posts much, but my way of trying to be safer under those circumstances is I got a vasectomy many years ago and I always have a recent, within 1-2 months, blood check document from a reliable clinic re HIV and 1-2 other STDs. Yes, I realize that will only tell me so much up to a few weeks or couple of months prior to the date of my blood test. But it is better than nothing. And it turns out I have been barebacking for about 46 years, thousands of different women from around the world, mostly P4P of course, and have not produced an unwanted pregnancy or gotten sick from sex in my life except for a dose of easily treatable trichomonas from a university girlfriend when I was 19. Therefore, I have also never made a girl sick from sex. lol. At least not in the transmission of disease sense. For whatever that is worth.

[QUOTE=Phazze63]No you're right and I agree. Its not just looks. What good is looks if she's not into it or isn't at least open to the possibility of having a decent time with a customer? But I never do BBFS + CIP. I think I might consider it if my stays were longer & I could build some kind of understanding / trust with a girl. THAT and she would have to be on birth control.[/QUOTE]Ah, there is another systemic issue about Pattaya that works against me. As transient as it can be for punters in Bangkok, the girls in Pattaya have every reason to believe the punters they encounter are even more transient. For most punters, Pattaya is a side trip within perhaps a longer but often also a side trip to Bangkok/Thailand. And the girls know it. Not only does that enable them to be more mischievous with our time and money, but that means the concept of me possibly establishing more of an ongoing repeat customer relationship with them is nil. At least I live in Bangkok and when I take the girls to my room in Bangkok, it is abundantly clear to them that I am here to stay and would be a rather nice repeat customer catch if I do say so myself. That certainly helps with regard to my BBFS+CIP requirement and often my BBBJ+CIM option requirement as well.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257350]Thanks for your reply on that. In my case, I just can't finish wearing a condom, never could even when I was your age. Now I am 65! And, to make things even more impossible, I am fairly steeped in BBFS+CIP with good looking/cute (to my taste) Thai girls in their 20's and early 30's so it is just never going to happen that I will now slip on a condom and feel horny for whatever is in front of me. I doubt you have been reading my posts much, but my way of trying to be safer under those circumstances is I got a vasectomy many years ago and I always have a recent, within 1-2 months, blood check document from a reliable clinic re HIV and 1-2 other STDs. Yes, I realize that will only tell me so much up to a few weeks or couple of months prior to the date of my blood test. But it is better than nothing. And it turns out I have been barebacking for about 46 years, thousands of different women from around the world, mostly P4P of course, and have not produced an unwanted pregnancy or gotten sick from sex myself so have also never made a girl sick from sex. lol. At least not in the transmission of disease sense. For whatever that is worth.

Ah, there is another systemic issue about Pattaya that works against me. As transient as it can be for punters in Bangkok, the girls in Pattaya have every reason to believe the punters they encounter are even more transient. For most punters, Pattaya is a side trip within perhaps a longer but often also a side trip to Bangkok / Thailand. And the girls know it. Not only does that enable them to be more mischievous with our time and money, but that means the concept of me possibly establishing more of an ongoing repeat customer relationship with them is nil. At least I live in Bangkok and when I take the girls to my room in Bangkok, it is abundantly clear to them that I am here to stay and would be a rather nice repeat customer catch if I do say so myself. That certainly helps with regard to my BBFS+CIP requirement and often my BBBJ+CIM option requirement as well.[/QUOTE]A vasectomy definitely helps lol, I'll probably do the same somewhere down the road. Still a bit early for me now. And agreed regarding pattaya girls impression of punters potential for being long term customers. Not really much I can say except that I travel to Bangkok for work and I come to pattaya after work lol.

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;2256880][quote=EihTooms]
Thanks for the report. Can we assume from that passage that you never engaged in any "uncool" activity with those top girls?[/quote]

If you mean fucking the top girls raw dog and inseminating them with my trouser-snake venom, then guilty as charged on multiple counts. LOL! Still, I do not see how that ruins anyone else's fun.[/QUOTE]Ah, I have not ignored or forgotten about your reply to me, Mr. Monger. I just wanted to give Phazze63 a chance to reply first. Also, I didn't know if you were being a bit funny the way you do sometimes in the Philippines/Angeles City threads. And I do think you are often VERY funny in your posts. I mean that in the best way.

So, DO tell. Is there any more insight you can give us about this? Are you talking about the same 4-5 go-go bars on WS in Pattaya as have been mentioned for attracting the top best looking girls in the city? What was your game to accomplish that goal other than your innate charm and striking good looks? Are you also young, fit and Asian? Please share what you are comfortable sharing.

You know, depending on the answers about this issue in general, I just might go down there and give those good looking, fit, 20-something year old Asian punters in those places some competition sometime. I mean, maybe I should if it turns out there are many more times when such a True GFE can be had with those girls that a whole bunch of other punters are just not into taking advantage of anyway. Why not give those girls a chance to say "no" to me as well as the golden opportunity to say "YES!", right?

[URL]https://pattayaone.news/en/alleged-underage-prostitution/[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2257785][URL]https://pattayaone.news/en/alleged-underage-prostitution/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's the bar I walked away from when I was asked 450 thb for the room. I wish it were raided on account of overcharging for rooms.

Thanks for feedback on the various merits of a visit to Pattaya.

On balance it might be worth a visit for me, not least out of curiosity. I take the point about drinking and age-competition (Am 49 but younger-looking, often passing for late 30's or early 40's). I'm quite realistic about my 'pulling power' vis-a-vis younger guys, though. When I referred to reading loads of posts I meant reports, mainly, and not such comparisons of performance and physical attraction between the two locations we're considering, so it's good to get this marked-up.

I believe that is one of the nightwish group. If so will be a lot of heat on soi 6 as they own a large part of the soi bars. 16 and 17 year old girls. Dumb dumb dumb.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2257359]Ah, I have not ignored or forgotten about your reply to me, Mr. Monger. I just wanted to give Phazze63 a chance to reply first. Also, I didn't know if you were being a bit funny the way you do sometimes in the Philippines/Angeles City threads. And I do think you are often VERY funny in your posts. I mean that in the best way.

So, DO tell. Is there any more insight you can give us about this? Are you talking about the same 4-5 go-go bars on WS in Pattaya as have been mentioned for attracting the top best looking girls in the city? What was your game to accomplish that goal other than your innate charm and striking good looks? Are you also young, fit and Asian? Please share what you are comfortable sharing.

You know, depending on the answers about this issue in general, I just might go down there and give those good looking, fit, 20-something year old Asian punters in those places some competition sometime. I mean, maybe I should if it turns out there are many more times when such a True GFE can be had with those girls that a whole bunch of other punters are just not into taking advantage of anyway. Why not give those girls a chance to say "no" to me as well as the golden opportunity to say "YES!", right?[/QUOTE]Well, I am no 27-year-old Chinese stud adroit at performing cunnilingus on the top Thai hookers and making them cum! Therefore, I am not claiming to lick on their clits in Mandarin causing them to fall madly in love with me. The so-called "uncool" behavior that I referred to was going bareback and squirting my goo in their pussies. In spite of being a regular wanker, I occasionally get an unsolicited free pity fuck from a top girl. I guess I am the sort of fella who just looks like he could really use a free fuck unlike the young handsome Asian studs with stacks of baht. Maybe, the top girls find it amusing to fuck a very funny rogue elephant man. Anyhow, I hope that helps. LOL!

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2257892]I believe that is one of the nightwish group. If so will be a lot of heat on soi 6 as they own a large part of the soi bars. 16 and 17 year old girls. Dumb dumb dumb.[/QUOTE]No, Miss B-Heaven isn't one of the nightwish group.