Lisbon

Thanks at Mongerer88.

Barbara Mello ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/Acompanhante-BarbaraMello-3328.html[/URL]) was back from vacation. So I met her for incall in her nice apartment. 130460 and this includes DFK, cumming two times, BBBJTCIM and anal. She also offers 70430, but this may not include all of the above. Didn't ask for further details on the shorter option.

I think she is a real beauty with a great body and she is eager to please. Her pictures are very accurate. Had a great time with her and definitely recommend her.

Only downside: Her English is pretty basic. So just some simple conversation with her possible.

I am considering a short trip to Portugal in early December. Just need to get away from the demands at home and wanting to go somewhere other than Medellin which is usually my first and only consideration.

This will not exclusively be a mongering trip, so spending a little bit more than I do for a Medellin session is OK as there will likely be far fewer. Unfortunately, there is little mention of the cost of service, either here or on the escort websites. Is it a safe assumption that the average 1 hour incall runs around 100 euros, with top-shelf companions going for 150 euros, plus? The quality of the talent seems pretty impressive, from what I have seen so far and I think I will not be disappointed if I were to try this destination on for size. I am also hearing about the cost of retiring there, so I thought that was also worth a looksee.

I am looking to fit in some tourist time as well as some adult fun, and Portugal seems to be a decent choice. I would appreciate some feedback about the price range as I continue to RTFF.

Thanks.

Why don't I find her when I click the link or do a search in ApartadoX? I'm now in Lisbon, maybe access is different here.

[QUOTE=XXL;2230719]Why don't I find her when I click the link or do a search in ApartadoX? I'm now in Lisbon, maybe access is different here.[/QUOTE]At least for the moment she has rejoined escortprivada. She sometimes rejoins them when their is a convention, so who knows whether it is permanent.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/barbara-mello/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-BarbaraMello-3991.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2230699]I am considering a short trip to Portugal in early December. Just need to get away from the demands at home and wanting to go somewhere other than Medellin which is usually my first and only consideration.

This will not exclusively be a mongering trip, so spending a little bit more than I do for a Medellin session is OK as there will likely be far fewer. Unfortunately, there is little mention of the cost of service, either here or on the escort websites. Is it a safe assumption that the average 1 hour incall runs around 100 euros, with top-shelf companions going for 150 euros, plus? The quality of the talent seems pretty impressive, from what I have seen so far and I think I will not be disappointed if I were to try this destination on for size. I am also hearing about the cost of retiring there, so I thought that was also worth a looksee.

I am looking to fit in some tourist time as well as some adult fun, and Portugal seems to be a decent choice. I would appreciate some feedback about the price range as I continue to RTFF.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think that is accurate, but the locals would strongly argue that their preferred 100 euro per hour incall providers are as hot as the 150 euro outcall providers reviewed here. Some of what you are paying the additional 50 euro premium represents her travel time, which is actually a smaller differential between incall and outcall price than in most of Europe. Lisbon is a spectacular city, but even more hilly than San Francisco and the roads go all over the place as they curve through hills, so you are probably going to need to take a taxi to find many (but not all) of the incalls, which eats into the 50 euro differential. It should also be noted that most of the incall providers offer 30 minute sessions for 60 euros or so, whereas few, if any, of the outcall providers offer this option.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2230699] Is it a safe assumption that the average 1 hour incall runs around 100 euros, with top-shelf companions going for 150 euros, plus?[/QUOTE]Right.

But if you look into the local board, you'll find several good options for less than that. For instance, the wonderful Larissa is 80€/1 hour, all inclusive: [URL]http://larissarussabenfic.wixsite.com/larissarussa[/URL] + [URL]http://www.sousexy.pt/acompanhantes/larissa-russa-16175[/URL].

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2230742]I think that is accurate, but the locals would strongly argue that their preferred 100 euro per hour incall providers are as hot as the 150 euro outcall providers reviewed here. Some of what you are paying the additional 50 euro premium represents her travel time, which is actually a smaller differential between incall and outcall price than in most of Europe. Lisbon is a spectacular city, but even more hilly than San Francisco and the roads go all over the place as they curve through hills, so you are probably going to need to take a taxi to find many (but not all) of the incalls, which eats into the 50 euro differential. It should also be noted that most of the incall providers offer 30 minute sessions for 60 euros or so, whereas few, if any, of the outcall providers offer this option.[/QUOTE]Excellent info. . Thanks. I am not adverse to 150 if it means they come to me. Sounds like most providers are incall, but I have seen a few otherwise. It also appears that girlfriendly hotels are not much of a problem. The more I read, the more I like about this destination. Airfares in December look really good also, costing half of a trip to my normal destination. Those savings alone provide funds for P4 P at a higher rate. I am particularly intrigued about the milking table place. Heeheehee WILD!

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;2230843]Excellent info. . Thanks. I am not adverse to 150 if it means they come to me. Sounds like most providers are incall, but I have seen a few otherwise. It also appears that girlfriendly hotels are not much of a problem. The more I read, the more I like about this destination. Airfares in December look really good also, costing half of a trip to my normal destination. Those savings alone provide funds for P4 P at a higher rate. I am particularly intrigued about the milking table place. Heeheehee WILD![/QUOTE]I am very skeptical of the quality that you will find at the milking table place. When I read the reviews on the local board I was completely unimpressed, and there are no reviews of the place on ISG. I have a friend who sends me pictures of the ladies he sees at The Mansion in Medellin and they are mostly all beautiful and to me they all look very similar. You are going to encounter a greater variance than that in terms of provider looks and bodies in Europe, so you need to research.

There are plenty of recommended providers mentioned on this board that will make you very happy, including at least a half-dozen recommended independents. The d'Almeida sisters and Sara Valentine / Alexandra Mendes of EP provide threesomes that can be geared toward your desires, and you won't need to hide your face in a pillow to avoid looking at something hideous. Hotel room furniture is easy to rearrange and plenty of two-Girl milking is available. Just because they don't advertise it on the web doesn't mean they don't do it. I think the milking table mention on ISG was based on the hopeful fantasies of a poster rather than reality.

There have been no reports on this thread I believe to be fake for the last few months, so I would stick to the reviewed ladies. The recent reports from the walk-in brothels have not been good, so I would focus on the reviewed Escortprivada ladies and the many reviewed independents here on ISG and on the local review board.

The local board is excellent in its honesty and free to join. The average review scores are lower than on most review boards, so keep that in mind. But the brutal honesty on that board is useful in really evaluating the reality of places like the milking table place.

Others on this board may disagree, but I think the reviews of the EP ladies are too harsh on the local because the lack of EP incall and the additional 50 euro charge above the standard Lisbon hourly rate causes the reviewers to be overly negative. For instance, Sara Valentine once worked as an independent under a different name and went from 9's and 10's in reviews to 6's and 7's when her price went up after joining EP. I see plenty of ladies in Spain and Canada, and I find the recommended EP ladies to be as good as the ladies I see in those countries.

Anyway, the local board is.

[URL]www.gp-pt.net[/URL]

The least photoshopped and most WhatsApp friendly ladies seem to advertise on.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]

And the escortprivada site is.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]

Tried to contact the d'almeida sisters through Whatsapp, no reply.

So fuck that, I won't bother with that when Iberia is full of places with plenty of available prostitutes who are down to do business without any hassle.

It occurs to me that by always recommending the same ladies, particularly with respect to independents, that the average age of the recommended ladies is increasing. So I took a quick look at the younger ladies advertising on apartadox today whonincluded English in their profiles and glanced at their reviews on the local board to find some BBBJ ones with excellent reviews. These three ladies met the criteria. All of them have only one or two reviews each, but the favorable reviews are from experienced reviewers on the local board. Rita's review indicated little or no kissing, but she did BBBJ. Agnes and Samira were kissing and BBBJ. Agnes was 80 euros for forty minutes (with her other rates derailed in the review), Rita Fuzeiro was the traditional 60 euros for thirty minutes (most girls at this rate do 100 euros for sixty minutes) and Samira was 200 euros for two hours, so I don't know what Samira's rates are for more traditional shorter sessions. I haven't seen any of them myself, I am just relaying information from the local board to potentially add some younger independents to the search lists for guys here. I gathered from the reviews that Rita Fuzeiro might be slightly older than her listed age, but that Agnes and Samira looked to be their published ages.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-Agnes-3973.html[/URL]

Agnes translated review:

"Location: Agostinho Lourenço Street, very close to Roma / Areeiro train station, easy parking but paid. "House" with more girls and the used room contained a tatami flanked by a mirror, shower cubicle in one of the corners.

The girl: A Brazilian girl, very pretty, nice and conversational throughout the meeting. His stature of little more than a meter and a half is provided with some nice shapes that are not yet opulent, especially for his breasts which, although small (which for me is not a defect) are in my opinion very beautiful.

The action: Easy dialing via telephone in which the conditions (30 min / 80 60 min / 120) are charged, and transfer to the place, the reception at the door was made by the person who led me to the room. After the shower and a brief exchange of and getting rid of the two tiny pieces of clothing that she still had, I tried to start the descent towards the south, when I was in the middle, she swerved and released a phrase "I want to suck you! , throws himself to the little one willingly but without great variations, dumbbells or inventiveness, leaving the twins completely out of the equation. Hood and up for cow-girl, PP / MM, four and again PP / MM until finished, with the girl always available and trying to please all variants performed."

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Rita Fuzeiro translated review:

"I had read all of Lisbon;.

I enjoyed my stay in Porto to visit there.

Attend (In the area of ​8203;the Prelada, in a known apartment.

Sympathetic to the telephone, later I verified that it is natural characteristic;.

She is, by the way, a cheerful and well-disposed girl, who conveys a good mood and puts us at ease;.

She is short, with good curves, beautiful breasts, rich see you, brunette type Pocahontas and a little face laroca (it made me remember a girl of a big brother (a certain Joana Diniz, I went to research).

Oral natural of the best, good envolvencia, although not kiss, sincere smile and ready laugh, a delightful breasts q I got tired of exploring a fucking beautiful.

Approved: smt023 ".

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-Samira-3940.html[/URL]

Samira translated review:

"Continuing on the path of the mulatinhas I went to know this pearl of the Atlantic that is as it says of the islands of the Cape Verdean Sotavento. First and foremost a call for attention. Despite presenting with a different name I believe that Brenda is the same person as Samira do Apartados (note the navel). Contact and easy marking, it attends in the great field in a transversal to Avenue of Brazil. He told me that there were several Ladies in the house, but I was introduced to none. Negotiation made in loco, we decided for 2 hours of there the 200 euros with tud except anal that said soon that did not.

The girl:

Name: Brenda Almeida.

Age: 22 years old, that seem to me real.

Nationality: Cape Verde.

Face: Beautiful, tennis face, with air of naughty.

Breasts: natural, very good and reactive to touch.

Body: petite but very elegant, well carved, good curves, on silky skin.

Belly: lisinha.

Legs: Bonita.

Tail: Well done, not exactly that tail of black but very well made and hard. Pity She did not give use.

Attitude: 5 stars.

Oral: without, very applied, with good dumb down to the gullet and looking with that malandra look in the eyes. Very good even.

Vaginal: Tight, well lubricated naturally, and delicious to suck.

Anal: ge qd if you try to move.

AP: Campo Grande.

Brenda (Samira), I got a very good gift. Very friendly and talkative, kisses like girlfriend, sucks like big people and fucks that is to take off her hat. Optimal attitude. Participative, reacts well and you see that you enjoyed every moment and detail of the 2 hours. In the cunnilingus it is noticed that it is appreciating and qd begins the adrenaline to rise safely holds our head like that to say do not pairs. It admits all the positions but of 4 the vision is taker. It was 2 hours of fucking fun.

For me it is recommended it can be visited again.

Note 8".

Once again, these aren't my reviews, but are reviews from the local board. The reviewers all have many reviews, but in fairness are reviewers who give mostly positive scores and comments (unlike a lot of gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] reviewers).

I am just trying to identify some additional younger providers that guys might want to contact, and who advertise as speaking English.

I obviously didn't look at all the apartadox ads of younger independents, but I did cross six younger independents off for having bad reviews and two for having no reviews.

Thanks Carlos and mongerer88. I have read thru last 10 pages as well. Have booked Holiday inn per previous review. Given short time I have, EP ladies recommended here are on my list for the evening rendezvous.

I had a couple of questions remaining though.

- Does Maria at sensual massagelisbon provide full service with massage? Not clear from one of the reviews or the website. Seems like she is lingam only?

- I have some time around lunchtime 12 pm. I can't find a close by incall option other than Jarden which is a hit or miss.

Paula borges was reported close by but her ads are inactive. Any other good incall options (10 min Uber is fine) that I can try to setup for noontime.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2228171]That was a mistake to respond to Lucknow's questions by replying within the text. Hopefully this will go through with the entire quote.[/QUOTE]

And even though several of the previously recommended independents no longer have current ads up, Lila still does, and her reviews on all boards are excellent. She speaks fluent English as she is originally from South Africa, does BBBJ, and offers anal if an hour or more is purchased. She offers the more traditional lower standard half-hour and one-hour rates that the locals prefer.

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You might like to know that Joana de Sá (already reported here) has a new ad in Apartado X [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-JoanadeSa-3213.html[/URL] .

Also strongly recommended (full service: DFK, A-level, BBBJ, DATY) are Valentina C [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-ValentinaC.-3313.html[/URL] , Filipa Pereira [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-FilipaPereira-3670.html[/URL] , Clara Bela [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-ClaraBela-3719.html[/URL] , Aline Rodrigues [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-AlineRodrigues-2296.html[/URL] , Elena Silva [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-ElenaSilva-3018.html[/URL] , Lara Fonseca [URL]http://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=109[/URL] and Joana [URL]http://portaldodesejo.com/joana/[/URL].

Five Portuguese, two Brazilians and one Ukrainian seems like a great menu. Enjoy!

I got a quick reply to my mail asking whether I could comme tomorrow / Tuesday for a milking session. Time was agreed and they sent me the address.

The address is in Alges, well outside Lisbon. Bus 748 to Miraflores from av Junqueiro near Marques Pombal. Tcket can be bought on the bus, 1.85 one-way. 25-minute ride. Get off at terminal then 30-minute walk.

Door opened by a slim good-looking false blond who tells me the 2nd masseuse will be there in a quater of an hour and no, unfortunately she herself is not one of the masseuses.

One masseuse turned out to be a Brazilian MILF, a 6 and the other one a debutante Portuguese, a 6.5 or a 7 if you like pretty faces. The "secretary" had been an 8. This alone would have ruined my mood had I come for full-service and not just for massage.

Both girls were very nice and did their best though I detected no special skills. The massage was successfull but hey, I had been abstinent for the past 5 days. Wouldn't repeat but glad I went. Paid 90 euros for 45 minutes (milking with hands). Payment at the end, not upfront. Got confirmation of a discount on Wednesdays and Saturdays (only 75 euros, see website). If BJs are your thing better go for the BJ milking. That body to body rubbing never did wonders for me. Too asexual. Mere contact with female flesh is at best neutral, I need said contact to be sexual.

No sight of the lookers pictured on their website.

Nonetheless, a milking table is a good idea and a good marketing ploy. Why are they so rare? The sex industry is so conservative.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2230850]I am very skeptical of the quality that you will find at the milking table place. When I read the reviews on the local board I was completely unimpressed, and there are no reviews of the place on ISG. I have a friend who sends me pictures of the ladies he sees at The Mansion in Medellin and they are mostly all beautiful and to me they all look very similar. You are going to encounter a greater variance than that in terms of provider looks and bodies in Europe, so you need to research.

There are plenty of recommended providers mentioned on this board that will make you very happy, including at least a half-dozen recommended independents. The d'Almeida sisters and Sara Valentine / Alexandra Mendes of EP provide threesomes that can be geared toward your desires, and you won't need to hide your face in a pillow to avoid looking at something hideous. Hotel room furniture is easy to rearrange and plenty of two-Girl milking is available. Just because they don't advertise it on the web doesn't mean they don't do it. I think the milking table mention on ISG was based on the hopeful fantasies of a poster rather than reality.

There have been no reports on this thread I believe to be fake for the last few months, so I would stick to the reviewed ladies. The recent reports from the walk-in brothels have not been good, so I would focus on the reviewed Escortprivada ladies and the many reviewed independents here on ISG and on the local review board.

The local board is excellent in its honesty and free to join. The average review scores are lower than on most review boards, so keep that in mind. But the brutal honesty on that board is useful in really evaluating the reality of places like the milking table place.

Others on this board may disagree, but I think the reviews of the EP ladies are too harsh on the local because the lack of EP incall and the additional 50 euro charge above the standard Lisbon hourly rate causes the reviewers to be overly negative. For instance, Sara Valentine once worked as an independent under a different name and went from 9's and 10's in reviews to 6's and 7's when her price went up after joining EP. I see plenty of ladies in Spain and Canada, and I find the recommended EP ladies to be as good as the ladies I see in those countries.

Anyway, the local board is.

[URL]www.gp-pt.net[/URL]

The least photoshopped and most WhatsApp friendly ladies seem to advertise on.

[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]

And the escortprivada site is.

[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for all the info, especially the local board link. If you think the chicas you have seen from the MM are beautiful, you should see the ones who don't go there and work their magic thru Facebook. The quality of my favoritas is mostly top-shelf ladies (most would consider them 8-10's) who deliver top-shelf service at a price less than the average in Portugal.

For me, Medellin is hard to compete with when considering cost and quality. My desire for Portugal is the need for something different. My desire for Portugal is to also do some touristy things, like riding the train along the coast. My desire for Portugal is to look into the retirement scene as I want to spend 4-6 months a year outside of the US during retirement. Some periodic adult fun would just be the cherry on top.