Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1362287]In my former post I forgot to mention that it is quite easy to take a bus from São Paulo to Santos.

When you are on the blue line exit at Jabaquara (it's the terminus). You'll find there the jabaquara bus station and several busses go to Santos (or the North Litoral).

It's inexpensive and there are busses almost at each hours of the day.

[url]http://www.emsampa.com.br/busjan/sp_1011.htm[/url]

When you'll arrive at Santos (via the Anchieta) the first stop is the Terminal Rodoviario. You can wait for the next stop which is located near the beaches.[/QUOTE]A good alternative as a GFE in Santos:

[url]http://www.forumsd.com.br/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=135&t=43480[/url]

Try to use the google translator to read the post of Santos people!

Have fun!

ABG

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1362100]I would pick the region of Santos, São Vicente. It's not far from São Paulo: about 45 minutes in normal conditions (more than 6 hours during holydays because there is only one road. The Anchieta. That leads to São Paulo's seaport). There's a good selection of garotas and different types of venues able to satisfy different tastes.

I didn't hobby that much in Porto Alegere (only twice) because I was there for professional reasons (writing academic papers). I'll be in Florianopolis in September for an International Conference. I don't have yet the intention of hitting the hobby scene but rather tI'd like to taste the non-pro scene (as I did in POA).

I hate Rio because there are to much gringos, especially yankees.[/QUOTE]S. G.

I hate Rio too, to expensive, to dangerous, to dirty and to much gringos!

If you want to go to nice beaches go to Santos, São Vicente and Guarujá! Lots of GP's also!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1362381]S. G.

I hate Rio too, to expensive, to dangerous, to dirty and to much gringos!

If you want to go to nice beaches go to Santos, São Vicente and Guarujá! Lots of GP's also![/QUOTE]It's funny, I feel much more "at risk" walking around SP than Rio. Especially, say, Zona Sul (Copa, Ipanema, Leblon) during the day. When I was in SP back in July, I went to lunch with 2 Brazilians and we almost got stalked on an overpass. The shifty street kids ran off and bothered some drivers instead of us walking. Maybe it's just where you think you know.

I rarely see "too much gringos" in RJ these days. Maybe it'll change for a few weeks around New Year's and Carnaval, but it's been pretty quiet here for a while.

-Cartman.

PS ABG, come to Rio and do some prive research man! I write about T's because largely they are the only places open that I can get to. If I had free time during the day, I'd be all over the privates.

PPS <<depending upon negociantion and the size of costumer's instrument (these were her words)! >>
Hm, if I have to wear a costume I'll go as a safado :P As a paying customer, I'll bring any instrument she wants ... perhaps a rusty trombone? ;P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_trombone

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1362381]S. G.

I hate Rio too, to expensive, to dangerous, to dirty and to much gringos!

If you want to go to nice beaches go to Santos, São Vicente and Guarujá! Lots of GP's also![/QUOTE]S. G. , pardon me but you did a mistake.

The are two roads to Santos, Via Anchieta and Via dos Imigrantes.

But you are right, both get congestionated on weekends and holidays. Specially in New Year's Eve!

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1362384]It's funny, I feel much more "at risk" walking around SP than Rio. Especially, say, Zona Sul (Copa, Ipanema, Leblon) during the day. When I was in SP back in July, I went to lunch with 2 Brazilians and we almost got stalked on an overpass. The shifty street kids ran off and bothered some drivers instead of us walking. Maybe it's just where you think you know.

I rarely see "too much gringos" in RJ these days. Maybe it'll change for a few weeks around New Year's and Carnaval, but it's been pretty quiet here for a while.

-Cartman.

PS ABG, come to Rio and do some prive research man! I write about T's because largely they are the only places open that I can get to. If I had free time during the day, I'd be all over the privates.

PPS <<depending upon negociantion and the size of costumer's instrument (these were her words)!

Hm, if I have to wear a costume I'll go as a safado :P As a paying customer, I'll bring any instrument she wants. Perhaps a rusty trombone? ; P [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusty_trombone[/url][/QUOTE]Eric,

I'm a born Paulistano but lived three years in Rio. I loved it. But that was in the golden seventies. Rio was the Cidade Maravilhosa!

But I saw with sorrow Rio getting worse every year since then!

I don't want to get into politics but 30 years of bad government drove Rio to the actual sad situation.

And by far Rio is more expensive than São Paulo, police in Sampa is more efficient, streets are better kept, thelephone and internet works better and trafic is more organised.

I'll give you a good exemple:

In the seventies about 50% of all fairs and exibitions were held in Rio and 50% in São Paulo. Note that Rio has beaches and Sampa do not!

Now not even 5% are in Rio.

Way? Basically lack of security and lack of infra structure in Rio.

But the privês in downtown Rio are worth to explore!

Maybe I shoud give them a visit. I love to "garimpar" new GP's. And mulatas are my "Achilles Heel". Rio has more variety!

Next time you come to Sampa please PM me!


Abraços.

ABG.

P. S. Nothing against the Cariocas, specially the mulatas!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1362396]Eric,

I'm a born Paulistano but lived three years in Rio. I loved it. But that was in the golden seventies. Rio was the Cidade Maravilhosa!

But I saw with sorrow Rio getting worse every year since then!

I don't want to get into politics but 30 years of bad government drove Rio to the actual sad situation.

And by far Rio is more expensive than São Paulo, police in Sampa is more efficient, streets are better kept, thelephone and internet works better and trafic is more organised.

I'll give you a good exemple:

In the seventies about 50% of all fairs and exibitions were held in Rio and 50% in São Paulo. Note that Rio has beaches and Sampa do not!

Now not even 5% are in Rio.

Way? Basically lack of security and lack of infra structure in Rio.

But the privês in downtown Rio are worth to explore!

Maybe I shoud give them a visit. I love to "garimpar" new GP's. And mulatas are my "Achilles Heel". Rio has more variety!

Next time you come to Sampa please PM me!

Abraços.

ABG.

P. S. Nothing against the Cariocas, specially the mulatas![/QUOTE]P. S. And the cabs in São Paulo are much better!

[url]http://www.diabinha.net/apresentax.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1362396]And by far Rio is more expensive than São Paulo, police in Sampa is more efficient, streets are better kept, thelephone and internet works better and trafic is more organised.[/QUOTE]I concur. As a city, Sao Paulo is much more enjoyable, clean and safe than Rio. People are also more polite and less greedy. Also when it comes to nighlife (be it P4P or "regular") , SP vs Rio is like city vs village.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1362396]I'm a born Paulistano but . .[/QUOTE]Not biased then. .

[quote]And by far Rio is more expensive than São Paulo, police in Sampa is more efficient, streets are better kept, thelephone and internet works better and trafic is more organised.[/quote]All of which is true. Sampa is an international commercial hub and it pays to keep it running smoothly. As to traffic being more organised, I'm not sure how you can call gridlocks that stretch for miles and can last for hours 'organised', but hey, I'm sure it's not for want of trying to organise it better.

Yet Rio is still party city in a crazy sort of way. Paulistanos know how to work hard and then work hard some more. Cariocas know how to have fun (and work in between). And as a fan of Carnaval, Rio is way ahead in my opinion. Although I love Rio, I think more people should get to know Sampa. It is an amazing city.

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1362591]Not biased then. .

All of which is true. Sampa is an international commercial hub and it pays to keep it running smoothly. As to traffic being more organised, I'm not sure how you can call gridlocks that stretch for miles and can last for hours 'organised', but hey, I'm sure it's not for want of trying to organise it better.[/QUOTE]One of my favorite commercial is an old Polar add that was running (if I'm not mistaken) in 2005. First of all, you may know that Polar is a beer that is brewed in Porto Alegre.

In this 2005 Polar commercial, two gauchos meet two gorgeous women from São Paulo, There are obvious signs that these women are from São Paulo (like, for instance, the verncular expression « meu » that is used both by the two women and the barman at the end of the add: Polar? Que é isso, meu?) This is the typical way to speak in Sampa (especially the italian / portuguese dialect that is called mooquês with words like orra meu! Area! (for Sai!) , Esse é um guai, Pronto, quem fala? Etc.)

All the stereotypes are evoked in this funny add. Two gauchos see two beautiful women from São Paulo. They asked them from where they come from: the two women replied: Frtom São Paulo. Then the two guys pictured themselves married with them and living in Sampa. Pollution, packed elevator, rain, motoboy hitting your cars, gridlocks, and the worse: no Polar to drink! That bring them back to reality. A Gaucho cannot live without his Polar!

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jxHd2bXrBw[/url]

Here's another Polar add playing with the cultural diffrence between Sampa and POA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boYXsKdy2B0

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto; 1362381]S. G.

I hate Rio too, to expensive, to dangerous, to dirty and to much gringos!

If you want to go to nice beaches go to Santos, São Vicente and Guarujá! Lots of GP's also![/QUOTE]ABG,

I don't hate gringos per se. But I don't like the way they behave in this thread. They ask scores of questions, collect information via PM and when it's the time to pay back with information that they can share on the forum: nothing, zilch, nada, Nichts, du vent! They are sonegadores de merda!"

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1362591]Yet Rio is still party city in a crazy sort of way. Paulistanos know how to work hard and then work hard some more. Cariocas know how to have fun (and work in between).[/QUOTE]It's not true. Sao Paulo is a culturally sophisticated, pulsingly energetic, spectacularly social city with an endless party scene and endless surprises. Bairros like Vila Madalena, Itaim Bibi, Pinheiros or Vila Olimpia are literally swarming with trendy bars and clubs (including wild "after-hours") that are busy every given day of the week. There is no such things in Rio. Also musically, SP is much more progressive than Rio. Most of the most famous rock bands in Brasil like Capital Initial, Charlie Brown Jr, Legiao Urbana, Titas, Skank, just to name a few, are from Sampa and there is dozens over dozens live music "rock cafes" in SP. It's something that doesn't exist in Rio (only live music rock bar I know in Rio is Ballroom in Humaita). As I said below, Rio vs Sao Paulo is like village vs city.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g50i0iqfHjo[/url]

[QUOTE=Prosal;1362534]Skank[/QUOTE]Talking about Skank. Nice video.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEx13xa7CgU[/url]

[QUOTE=Sui Generis; 1362599]ABG,

I don't hate gringos per se. But I don't like the way they behave in this thread. They ask scores of questions, collect information via PM and when it's the time to pay back with information that they can share on the forum: nothing, zilch, nada, Nichts, du vent! They are sonegadores de merda!"[/QUOTE]Sui Generis, you made your words mine. That's exactly as I feel!

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Tabatha.

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Vaní invited us members of the ISG board for a free churrasco & beer.

Dez 27 th, starting 3 PM.

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