Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2641318]I did not ask if you were likely to get shot and killed by police.

I don't think most black men are likely to be shot and killed by police. A majority of people are never shot in their lifetimes, including black men.

What I asked was if you believed you are more likely to be shot and killed by a police officer (compared to non-black men).

Maybe you believe it only works for you to dodge questions.

You may not have believed your neighbors.

Do you also not believe in statistics?[/QUOTE]Yeez, your question is ridiculous. Take the hint and stop embarrassing yourself.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2641330]Boot licker to the slave masters and oligarchs.
[/QUOTE]You are talking about gloablisation. I am talking about internationalism. You are talking exploitation. I am talking emancipation.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjK2UDjR4-U[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2641331]That is easy. You are a Colombian coffee farmer. You can sell to Starbucks who pays you in rock solid dollars or you can sell to the local merchant who pays in COP. The local merchant over time is going to have to pay you more COP to compensate, and he passes on his costs to the consumer.[/QUOTE]A good businessperson will not have the same price for different customers of unequal resources.

My experience in Tijuana mongering is that many chicas offer one price to gringos that is often much higher than what she accepts from poorer locals.

She probably would want to get the higher gringo rates from all her customers.

But if some can just pay local rates, they still get to fuck her, until she runs out of pussy.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2641331]You are a Colombian coffee farmer. You can sell to Starbucks who pays you in rock solid dollars or you can sell to the local merchant who pays in COP. The local merchant over time is going to have to pay you more COP to compensate, and he passes on his costs to the consumer.[/QUOTE]For simplicity sake, let's suppose a coffee farmer has a choice to sell to the Colombian supermarkets or to Starbucks International. The coffee farmer sells the coffee in COP, not in USD. So let's say the famrer wants COP 100.000 for a bag. This used to be worth USD 30, but now it is worth USD 20.

So Starubucks pays USD 20 in exchange for COP 100.000 and buys the coffee. Starbucks makes more profit than before, which it could give to shareholders, or pass on to customers in the form of lower prices, or pass on to staff with higher wages. It would depend what pressure it feels. Starbucks is not going to pay more for the coffee in COP just because it can. That is one option that certainly would not happen. That makes no sense whatsoever to a profit orientated business.

The Colombian supermarkets meanwhile would pay COP 100.000 for the coffee, no different than before.

If Starbucks is in competition with the Colombian supermarkets, then it could reduce its prices to win customers from the supermarkets.

I am really failing to see why the prices go up. Perhaps you could explain what "compensation" you think the local buyers must pay. And don't forget also that prices only go up if there are no other cheaper coffee suppliers, and if local customers that will pay the increase.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2641159]SimILE /712;siməlē noun; a figure of speech involving the comparison of one thing with another thing of a different kind, used to make a description more emphatic or vivid (e. G. , as brave as a lion, crazy like a fox).

Also, "me and you" don't hang together. [B]You[/B] and [B]I[/B] hang together. And you aren't from a developing country.[/QUOTE]And that reminded me of this:

[URL]https://youtu.be/snS-FUhbyYE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2641174]Isn't the same apply to Venezuela?[/QUOTE]Alaska is a bad example. It has a population density of 1 person per square mile. Much of the state is inaccessible for much of the year. They aren't self-sufficient in most things. If not for natural resources, it wouldn't be a state, which is also the case with New Mexico. I am not certain, but those natural resources are probably owned by the US government, which is the case with the Natural gas in New Mexico.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2641409]...I am really failing to see why the prices go up. ...[/QUOTE]It is cheaper so Starbucks buys more from Colombia and buy less elsewhere. That creates demand and will increase the price for local consumer.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2641281]JBBJAY- I feel very let down and I was expecting much more from you, don't worry I am true believer in second chances. For this time at bat, you have clearly struck out.

The history of European warfare is littered with wealthy noble heroes who have rallied entire armies of white men and led them through hell and back. Alexander the Great, George Patton, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, William the Conqueror, Leonidis, Thor and Odin "They were real right LOL" etc, etc, etc. Too many to list. Come on man, please be true to history and admit there have been an endless amount of wealthy white warriors. Yes, we all know most soldiers are middle / lower class, but plenty of successful white men have chosen a life in the military. As for the Civil War, the wealthy white men forced the poorer white men from the North to fight, they would have lost everything or most of everything if they were not able to conqueror the South before funding and public support in the North was lost, which was very close to happening for the first two years. All the South had to do was last long enough for the North to give up. Kind of classless to try and diminish the deeds of the upper class of America who wouldn't allow the South to keep their evil ways. Those guys were heroes, rich and poor. Both alike made sacrifices, yes the poor much more than the rich though..[/QUOTE]Prepare to be disappointed again.

Do you understand the concept of "chain of command" as it applies to military organization? If you served in the military you probably do, otherwise you probably don't.

The leaders of armies don't do the fighting. Occasionally, the fighting comes to them, but they aren't the ones doing the fighting. You might want to reexamine your history books.

Let's use Washington as an example. He traveled with his servants, who made certain he remained clean, warm, comfortable and well fed. During battles he remained well away from the fighting, in a safe and protected spot where he could observe the battle and have his senior officers signal orders to each battalion. All of that is necessary, except for the servants. However, it also means there is a huge fundamental difference between directing a war and fighting a war.

The border. I've been hearing how the illegals are destroying the US for at least 35 years. They sure are taking their sweet time.

From 1995-2002 I frequently hired one or more of those horrible illegals for casual labor. I paid between $10-$15 per hour, 20 years ago. I hired them for one simple reason, it was difficult to find any Americans who were willing to do hard, physical labor, often in brutally hot weather. If you could find them, they were often drunks, drug addicts or thieves who would quit after 4 hours.

Today the labor situation is much worse. Everyone is searching for employees and not finding them. I remember a time when you sent out 20 resumes to get 3 interviews and it took 5 or more interviews to get hfind someone to hire you. Today I can have 10 offers by just looking at 10 jobs. So your "they're going to take all the jobs argument carries no water.

Two points on "they don't pay taxes.

1. If they are working so cheap they are bringing pay down, they aren't earning enough to owe taxes.

2. They pay taxes, every time they buy something. Meanwhile, go look up Foxconn Wisconsin, or Carrier. We literally give billions in tax revenue away and get little or nothing in return.

I understand. Fox News says the open borders and illegals are destroying us and you're obligated to repeat it. However, you really should think instead of running around barking like a Chihuahua every time they tell you the sky is falling.

I noticed you neglected to keep beating the "free healthcare" drum. Was that an oversight, or did you realize you don't understand the subject?

You also forgot to answer my question. You're so concerned about the budget and the debt, but from 2019-2020 the debt increased by $5 trillion (more than a 20% increase). Where was your outrage about spending then?

My guess is that Fox News wasn't telling you that you were supposed to be outraged so you didn't notice.

Almost forgot something. How did that border become wide open again if Trump secured it. Did the fences evaporate? Were all those C&BP officers abducted by aliens? I understand, again, that Fox News said it, so it must be true, but how did it happen in just a matter of months?

Since you're so bothered by excessive budgets, can you tell me how the border can be secured without an even bigger budget?

Moving to my final point for today, let's hear an inflation explanation from you. Specifically, I want to know how Biden is responsible for inflation when the fiscal year started on October 1?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2641499]It is cheaper so Starbucks buys more from Colombia and buy less elsewhere. That creates demand and will increase the price for local consumer.[/QUOTE]Fair point. But that assumes inelastic supply and elastic demand. If there was more demand for colombian coffee, they would increase supply. And if suppliers tried to increase prices, there would be decreased demand. Both these factors would work for price equillibrium.

Is the world standard. Other coffees are based around it, much as Brent Crude is used in oil. There is no shortage of demand for Colombian coffee and Mexico etc find it a ceiling they have to punch through. Hw about talking about what you know about, or lay off the white stuff.

Being a gentleman I, of course, prefer tea which can be horridly expensive as any Arab prince can tell you. That said, Assian mountain coffee is good (like this, in small doses, of course).

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2641281]JBBJAY- I feel very let down and I was expecting much more from you, don't worry I am true believer in second chances. For this time at bat, you have clearly struck out.

The history of European warfare is littered with wealthy noble heroes who have rallied entire armies of white men and led them through hell and back. Alexander the Great, George Patton, George Washington, Andrew Jackson, William the Conqueror, Leonidis, Thor and Odin "They were real right LOL" etc, etc, etc. Too many to list. Come on man, please be true to history and admit there have been an endless amount of wealthy white warriors. Yes, we all know most soldiers are middle / lower class, but plenty of successful white men have chosen a life in the military. As for the Civil War, the wealthy white men forced the poorer white men from the North to fight, they would have lost everything or most of everything if they were not able to conqueror the South before funding and public support in the North was lost, which was very close to happening for the first two years. All the South had to do was last long enough for the North to give up. Kind of classless to try and diminish the deeds of the upper class of America who wouldn't allow the South to keep their evil ways. Those guys were heroes, rich and poor. Both alike made sacrifices, yes the poor much more than the rich though..[/QUOTE]Oops. I forgot one thing: Ethnic diversity.

The ethnic fractionalization rating for Canada is 0.71.

The ethnic fractionalization rates for the US is 0.49.

Fractionalization rating is the probability that 2 random individuals do not belong to the same group. A perfectly diverse country has a fractionalization rating of 1. A country with absolutely no diversity has a fractionalization rating of 0.0.

I repeat, Canada is much more ethnically diverse than the US.

Oh, your last line about people ready to storm the Capitol, people already stormed the Capitol. They stormed the Capitol because they blindly accepted the bullshit they had been fed without bothering to question it. They were idiots. If more idiots want to storm the Capitol over different bullshit that anyone with half a brain can recognize as bullshit, we'll just have to make more room in the prisons for them.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2641558]Fair point. But that assumes inelastic supply and elastic demand. ...[/QUOTE]That is what I point out in your earlier reply.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2641558].. And if suppliers tried to increase prices, there would be decreased demand. Both these factors would work for price equillibrium.[/QUOTE]There is a 10 USD range in your example so what you said likely won't happen before it gets over 30 USD.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2641524]Prepare to be disappointed again.

Do you understand the concept of "chain of command" as it applies to military organization? If you served in the military you probably do, otherwise you probably don't.

The leaders of armies don't do the fighting. Occasionally, the fighting comes to them, but they aren't the ones doing the fighting. You might want to reexamine your history books.

Let's use Washington as an example. He traveled with his servants, who made certain he remained clean, warm, comfortable and well fed. During battles he remained well away from the fighting, in a safe and protected spot where he could observe the battle and have his senior officers signal orders to each battalion. All of that is necessary, except for the servants. However, it also means there is a huge fundamental difference between directing a war and fighting a war.

The border. I've been hearing how the illegals are destroying the US for at least 35 years. They sure are taking their sweet time.

From 1995-2002 I frequently hired one or more of those horrible illegals for casual labor. I paid between $10-$15 per hour, 20 years ago. I hired them for one simple reason, it was difficult to find any Americans who were willing to do hard, physical labor, often in brutally hot weather. If you could find them, they were often drunks, drug addicts or thieves who would quit after 4 hours.

Today the labor situation is much worse. Everyone is searching for employees and not finding them. I remember a time when you sent out 20 resumes to get 3 interviews and it took 5 or more interviews to get hfind someone to hire you. Today I can have 10 offers by just looking at 10 jobs. So your "they're going to take all the jobs argument carries no water.

Two points on "they don't pay taxes.

1. If they are working so cheap they are bringing pay down, they aren't earning enough to owe taxes.

2. They pay taxes, every time they buy something. Meanwhile, go look up Foxconn Wisconsin, or Carrier. We literally give billions in tax revenue away and get little or nothing in return.[/QUOTE]You make some decent points and there is some truth to some of your arguments, but I still disagree with most of what you have said.

LOL, Someone doesn't need to have served in the military to understand a simple concept like chain of command. You being a military man should know, All of those men I listed weren't hired right away as generals or battlefield commanders. You needed to work your way up to those positions by fighting in combat, leading men in combat, or somehow distinguishing yourself as worthy to lead an army. As for Washington, he fought in the French and Indian War prior to Revolution which was one of the reasons he selected to lead the Colonial Army. You should read up on the campaigns of Washington, you would realize 18th century warfare was anything but clean, warm, and comfortable no matter what role you were serving. You were still out in the wilderness for months at a time with no heat, shitty food, and never knowing when your next battle might be and if that will be your last. Ever worry about being scalped by a native American, probably not, but I am sure Washington did throughout the whole war as many Native Americans allied with the British. Washington took on the superpower of his time with ordinary civilians and had they lost and Washington been caught, he would have been executed. He selflessly risked it anyway. And it's well documented Washington on numerous occasions fought alongside his men and had to be held back by his own soldiers on the battlefield. After one battle his horse was shot out from under him and musket balls pierced his coat. Have some love for Gorgeous George and BJJB69 haha.

The border crisis and liberal government handouts are causing the labor shortage. The reason you can't find quality workers in the labor market is because wages have been driven so low by the influx of immigrants who will work those jobs for 15 $ an hour. Take away the millions of undocumented immigrants and those wages will increase and you will see a higher quality of worker. That being said, not all manual laborers are unreliable drug addicts / drunks. There is some truth to it, but I know many decent people who work running their own business like landscaping, framing, demolition, Concrete, home repair, handyman, etc, etc, etc. They are a back bone of any economy. All those businesses suffer due to the huge amount of competition from foreign labor. Immigrant labor also hurts Union labor as well and steals jobs from them. Again, if you raise wages, more people will come work these jobs, not just the drug addicts LOL. Why would anyone want to work all day at 15 an hour when sleepy joe will pay them twice as much on unemployment or some other handout while they sit at home and live off the government. As for the taxes, number 1, it's unfair. Why would you make an American pay taxes, even if its a very small amount, and then let immigrants work and pay no taxes? Secondly, even if they are paying some form of taxes through sales tax, their children are getting an education from American tax payers at roughly $20,000 a year per child. That's not fair either. We obviously have massive massive massively different viewpoints on the border, I just can't understand how any American could condone all the endless resources the local state and city resources those border towns use to try and deal with the overflow of immigrants effecting their communities.

The border went wide open after Biden eliminated Trump's policy of separating Parents from Children and forcing them to stay in Mexico "If the kids were really even the children of the Parents", threatening to remove funding from Central American countries if they didn't cooperate with the border crisis, not nationally chastising the border agents just because they rode horses and whipped Haitian immigrants who were non-compliant and trying to illegally cross into our nation and break the law, actually detaining the illegals in cages / holding cells / whatever instead of just releasing them into the country to never return for their court dates. The reasons are numerous and there is no debate here, Trump did a far better job at securing the border.

Just prior to the Pandemic, yes we increased the debt by 4.2 Trillion, not 5 trillion, and that historical raise was due to a historic pandemic. Those funds were necessary to keep the economy going and people safe while we were still dealing with the unknown and a 6-week lockdown. How much did the debt increase Trump's first 3 years in office? Did he get into office and ask for 7 fucking Trillion, 7 fucking Trillion! After we put up 4 fucking Trillion! Highest inflation in 39 years and you want to pass a 7 Trillion dollar bill, I am no economist, but that sounds fucking retarded. Yea, we have a huge labor short shortage because wages have been destroyed by foreign labor and lets go pay people to stay at home with a 7 Trillion dollar bill. It just makes no sense, other than Biden is trying to buy votes for the next election because he can't get votes any other way. It's like he is purposely trying to impoverish a large percentage of the population to make them dependent on government handouts to secure the future elections for Democrats. I am not saying that is 100% true, but it does cross my mind, I just can't see the reason for a 7 Trillion dollar bill, or a 2 Trillion dollar bill with the labor market and inflation the way it is.

Healthcare- I didn't like Obamacare, the 500 $ fine many of my friends paid or almost had to pay was a joke. To force people who didn't want to have health insurance was a joke. American is the land of opportunity, if you're even semi healthy and even slightly motivated, you can work enough to afford health insurance. If you are unfit to work, there is or should be programs to provide you health insurance, but Obamacare was far too broad. I am not paying health insurance for some woman who has 3 kids with 4 dads and expects the government to pay her way through life. Sorry, we need to keep some form of personal responsibility and hold irresponsible people accountable for their life decisions. I also didn't like how for years straight after Obamacare, my health insurance went through the roof when I looked at my pay stubs. It wasn't fair. All that being said, I am not the expert on this subject, Jb-please feel free to explain the economics behind the current policy for the healthcare the Democrats are advocating. I am genuinely curious to hear you response.

Yes Biden is directly responsible for a large percentage of the current inflation taking place. Read the following article because I can't write this much LOL. [URL]https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/581101-voters-are-correct-biden-is-to-blame-for-inflation?rl=1[/URL].

Your statistics on Canada are flawed because they are counting people ethnicity as different between whites. So it is taking into account the nation ancestry of whites- English, Irish, Scottish, German, French, Russian, etc. All these groups are no at least 3rd generation and they should be considered racially the same, for real world practical diversity arguments-they are the same. They should be grouped together as Caucasian. Lets look at the real world, practical break down of Canada's diversity.

Caucasian- 72.9%.

Black- 3.5%.

Latinos- 5%.

Asian- 18%.

USA.

Caucasian- 62.8%.

Black-14.5%.

Latino- 18%.

Asian- 5.4%.

Canada is not more diverse than the USA, but ok, lets say you are right. USA per capita GDP is much higher, $69,000 to $52,000. Canada is weaker economically, not even close. Ok lets throw that out the window too, fuck it. I argued no other first world nation is more diverse than USA. So out of the the dozens of first world nations, you found 1, good job. It still doesn't really disprove my point that Americans can work together and achieve great success. Technically your right, Canada may be more diverse, but your like the geeky weird in class who calls out to correct some minuscule thing the teacher got wrong, only to make himself look like a dorky weirdo with no friends to even point out something so trivial and meaningless and it doesn't really make a difference to the main point the teacher was trying to make. You just look weird even trying to point this out, and you point it out with obscure impractical statistics.

You did have some good points though, the dudes who stormed the capital are def idiots, and my apologies for being harsh on immigration. There is a lot positive aspects about having a Latino community of immigrants and they are good people with good hearts and if I sound like an asshole, its because I am sometimes haha. I fully support a legal fair system of immigration.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2641769]You make some decent points and there is some truth to some of your arguments, but I still disagree with most of what you have said.

The border went wide open after Biden eliminated Trump's policy of separating Parents from Children and forcing them to stay in Mexico "If the kids were really even the children of the Parents", threatening to remove funding from Central American countries if they didn't cooperate with the border crisis, not nationally chastising the border agents just because they rode horses and whipped Haitian immigrants who were non-compliant and trying to illegally cross into our nation and break the law, actually detaining the illegals in cages / holding cells / whatever instead of just releasing them into the country to never return for their court dates. The reasons are numerous and there is no debate here, Trump did a far better job at securing the border.[/QUOTE]Correction- *I meant to say "whipped at Haitian Immigrants", meaning they spun their whips at the immigrants, not actually whipping them with their whips*.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;2641769]You make some decent points and there is some truth to some of your arguments, but I still disagree with most of what you have said.

LOL, Someone doesn't need to have served in the military to understand a simple concept like chain of command. You being a military man should know, All of those men I listed weren't hired right away as generals or battlefield commanders. You needed to work your way up to those positions by fighting in combat, leading men in combat, or somehow distinguishing yourself as worthy to lead an army. As for Washington, he fought in the French and Indian War prior to Revolution which was one of the reasons he selected to lead the Colonial Army. You should read up on the campaigns of Washington, you would realize 18th century warfare was anything but clean, warm, and comfortable no matter what role you were serving. You were still out in the wilderness for months at a time with no heat, shitty food, and never knowing when your next battle might be and if that will be your last. Ever worry about being scalped by a native American, probably not, but I am sure Washington did throughout the whole war as many Native Americans allied with the British. Washington took on the superpower of his time with ordinary civilians and had they lost and Washington been caught, he would have been executed. He selflessly risked it anyway. And it's well documented Washington on numerous occasions fought alongside his men and had to be held back by his own soldiers on the battlefield. After one battle his horse was shot out from under him and musket balls pierced his coat. Have some love for Gorgeous George and BJJB69 haha..[/QUOTE]I'm done.

I can teach anyone how to juggle, as long as they have 2 functional arms and hands and provided they aren't blind. I've taught many different things. I once taught a 19 year old Japanese girl how to drive a manual transmission. I'm pretty good at teaching and explaining, but it only works if the other person has the ability to understand.

I'm not trying to be insulting, but you've taken some simple things and ended up in some fantasy land. Here are some examples.

Military leaders don't become leaders because they were great fighters. With very few exceptions they begin in a position of authority and move up to positions of greater authority. Leadership principles are a completely different skill set than battlefield prowess. Here's a football analogy:

Tom Brady is considered, by many, to be the greatest quarterback of all time. His skills are most effective when he is playing quarterback. You don't pull him off the field and have him take over as the coach. There are some coaches who were great players at one time, but they don't get a head coaching job based on their playing ability.

This same concept can be found all over. The CEO of Southwest Airlines didn't get the position because he was the best pilot.

This is not disrespect for Washington. It's simply recognizing his needed skills.

I'll summarize my response to your border diatribe with one simple sentence:

The ends do not justify the means.

You don't physically or emotionally abuse people. You don't torture people. You don't take children away from their parents and lock them in cages. You don't go to court and argue that you aren't obligated to provide basic essentials to the people who you locked up in cages. Anyone who supports any of those things is a much bigger threat to the US than all the people in Central America. I would take 1000 illegal immigrants over 1 disgusting pig of a human being who believes treating children worse than animals is a good thing.

Healthcare, universal, single payer or "free" as you like to call it, is ridiculously simple. Even Colombia figured it out. However, you first have to believe that human beings deserve to be treated like human beings. You've already declared that human beings should be treated like animals whenever possible, so I doubt your ability to understand.

Colombia decided that healthcare was a basic human right. To me it's simple. You don't treat medical issues based upon a person's ability to pay. You don't decide who gets to live, based on profitability. The best thing is, it costs less.

A good analogy is what frequently happens after any natural disaster. It's also something that happened at the beginning of the pandemic. People went out and bought as much of hand sanitizer and masks as they could, creating a shortage and then sold the stuff at greatly inflated prices. Profiteering. That's how our current healthcare system works.

After every doctor, nurse, janitor and receptionist gets paid, after every bedpan and catheter is paid for, after every single dollar required to be spent on healthcare is figured up, about $3 trillion is added to the bill to ensure shareholder profit.

That $3 T comes out of everyone's pocket. All who are on Medicare or Medicaid, all who receive care through the Veterans Administration, everything includes a markup for the shareholders. If I remember correctly, at some point in the past Congress passed a law making it illegal to negotiate for lower prices for Medicare and Medicaid patient's treatment. All the drugs dispensed by military doctors, big price markups.

On ethnic diversity, when you're the one doing the study you can decide what qualifies as an ethnic group. You don't get to decide, just because it doesn't agree with your opinion.

According to you, there is no ethnic or cultural difference between white people from Finland and white people from Italy.

The US has not had a large influx of white immigrants for a long time. It hasn't had a large number of black immigrants either (slaves don't count). If you pick 2 random white people in the US, there's a high probability they identify as American. Canada accepts more, per capita immigrants, from all over. If you pick 2 random white people in Canada there's a lower probability they both identify as Canadian. When you add it all up, Canada is more ethnically diverse.

That's not picking out some insignificant detail. You said the US is the most ethnically diverse country in the world. You were wrong. It's as simple as that. I didn't go out and find the one country that's more diverse. I pointed out that a country I've visited over 500 times is more diverse. When you disagreed, I looked up the figures. Then you decided you were still right because you don't understand how diversity is measured.

For the record, there are many other countries with more ethnic diversity than the US or Canada. There are also many with less.