Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2267200]You have missed the argument. You stated they know no other way to survive. I said that is not true. I have friends that work in laundries, work in restaurants, work in hotels, and they are all surviving just fine.

Now you change the point and say well they can make more as hookers. Well I can make more as a drug dealer, but that is not to say it is the only way I know to survive.

After they are finished being hookers, they will go on to another way to survive such as pushing a food cart. So no, being a hooker is not the only way they know or the only thing they can do to survive (keeping with the original argument).


[/QUOTE]You may have missed my exact wording. "There are indeed a FEW good women ON SOI 6 who are there simply as they know of no other way to survive AND care for their family. " I added the capitalization to emphasize that I was not speaking generally, ONLY for a few Soi 6 ladies who are burdened with not only surviving but with also caring for family members. Making a child or ailing parent live off of taco sauce is not an acceptable situation for most loving Thai daughters and mothers. Most of the girls in the business are a bit moralistically lazy perhaps, but there are a few who are in a tough spot and go into prostitution not for fun or out of laziness, but to care for family members. You suffered in order to eventually survive and succeed, but if you had small children and parents to take care of and support in a country such a Thailand, who knows what you may have decided to temporarily do to ensure they were taken care of?

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;2267943]Never apologize. Never explain. Been there and done all that too, except when I was an undergrad Taco Bell didn't exist. Good on you.

GE.[/QUOTE]Well, there is no Taco Bell in Thailand yet. I love Taco Bell. I had both breakfast as well as lunch there today. Soon there will be one in Bangkok at least. I doubt Pattaya will get one until after I have retired from mongering. I just hope they are like Subway and stick to the American menu for the most part, and not deviate like KFC, which has deviated so far that I can't stand to eat there. Where in Thailand can you find a good fried chicken breast??

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2268110]Well, there is no Taco Bell in Thailand yet. I love Taco Bell. I had both breakfast as well as lunch there today. Soon there will be one in Bangkok at least. I doubt Pattaya will get one until after I have retired from mongering. I just hope they are like Subway and stick to the American menu for the most part, and not deviate like KFC, which has deviated so far that I can't stand to eat there. Where in Thailand can you find a good fried chicken breast??[/QUOTE]I was at the market one day and saw some chicks with Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. I went over to their table to ask where they got them from. They said Bangkok. MF! The best fried chicken in Pattaya is Pattaya Klang Soi 16. And it is cheap. Only opens late afternoon and closed on Sunday.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2268118]I was at the market one day and saw some chicks with Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. I went over to their table to ask where they got them from. They said Bangkok. MF! [/QUOTE]There's a Krispy Kreme in Royal Garden Plaza.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2268118]I was at the market one day and saw some chicks with Krispy Kreme Doughnuts. I went over to their table to ask where they got them from. They said Bangkok. MF! The best fried chicken in Pattaya is Pattaya Klang Soi 16. And it is cheap. Only opens late afternoon and closed on Sunday.[/QUOTE]No love for Texas (Church's) Chicken? Me and the boys loved Texas Chicken. I haven't ate Church's in over 5 years.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2268159]There's a Krispy Kreme in Royal Garden Plaza.[/QUOTE]There is a crispy crepe at the Emporium Mall in Bangkok. This mall is one stop away from Asok. It's on the top floor near the entrance to the grocery store. Pretty expensive donuts when you compare it to other bakery items nearby.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2268110]Well, there is no Taco Bell in Thailand yet. I love Taco Bell. I had both breakfast as well as lunch there today. Soon there will be one in Bangkok at least. I doubt Pattaya will get one until after I have retired from mongering. I just hope they are like Subway and stick to the American menu for the most part, and not deviate like KFC, which has deviated so far that I can't stand to eat there. Where in Thailand can you find a good fried chicken breast??[/QUOTE]Yet I much prefer it. Then again I prefer food on the spicy side.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2268159]There's a Krispy Kreme in Royal Garden Plaza.[/QUOTE]This was over a year ago.

Planning a trip soon. What is the acceptance of girls allowing video recording of the sex? I'd like to start building a personal library.

I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.

I spent 17-1/2 mongering days in Pattaya, a new record for me. In that time I had intercourse 33 times with 24 new girls and 9 repeats (a couple of repeats were from prior visits). 24 of the encounters were girls from Soi 6, 4 were from agogo's, 5 from Red Car and one girl from Wind Mill but who I got freelancing.

The total amount I spent on fees and fines and tips was around 69,000 Baht (about $2,100), which equates to an averaged cost of about $64 per encounter.

I was actually stunned at this final cost, at how low it was. I was expecting it to be closer to $3,000 based on the cash I had remaining at the end, but after reviewing everything I find it is accurate. Much was made of my spending tons of money on Monkey Paw's high priced agogo girls, but I only went out 5 times with agogo girls, so their "high" cost is averaged out over the other 29 encounters. But for comparison, last April, where I had only one agogo girl, the average cost per encounter was $14 lower, so the agogo girls did have an impact. What likely depleted my budget so much compared to previous trips was not the direct cost of the girls or the cost of the agogo girls, but rather the entertainment expenses. I bought many more Lady Drinks and I literally threw money away hurling 100 Baht notes to the dancers!

The bottom line of how much we spent, at least for us vacationers, comes down to whether we had a good time or not for the money, and if we can afford it. I certainly had a good time! I am fortunate enough that I could also afford it. In previous trips I was ready to leave after 10 days, but with some bros showing up this time, other than some disappointments with the performance of the high priced agogo girls, I was hardly ever bored and consider this to have been my best trip to Thailand ever. So, no regrets about what I spent.

I hope this information helps someone.

It makes no difference but I prefer to call girls in the P4P business working girls not working girls hookers or prostitutes. I prefer to see them as individuals not as indistinctive uneducated hoards of farm hands from Essan who should be grateful that somebody wants to shag them for 700 baht arguing its twice the minimum wage. For better or worse they take care of our needs, enrich our lives with their company. Some are deviant hustlers but most are nice people. They choose this line of work not because they are lazy they do it for the money. Some need that money badly to take care of responsibilities back home and some just see it as a way to a better lifestyle. Some members understandably see it differently but that's my take for what it's worth.

[QUOTE=FLHawk;2268503]I finally got around to inputting my November mongering trip to Pattaya in Excel to see how I did.

I spent 17-1/2 mongering days in Pattaya, a new record for me. In that time I had intercourse 33 times with 24 new girls and 9 repeats (a couple of repeats were from prior visits). 24 of the encounters were girls from Soi 6, 4 were from agogo's, 5 from Red Car and one girl from Wind Mill but who I got freelancing.

The total amount I spent on fees and fines and tips was around 69,000 Baht (about $2,100), which equates to an averaged cost of about $64 per encounter.

I was actually stunned at this final cost, at how low it was.
So, no regrets about what I spent.

I hope this information helps someone.[/QUOTE]All that matters is you can afford it and you have no regrets. Reading your reports I too am surprised you didn't spend more. Thanks for all of your great reports.

P.S. Tried to send a private message but you're mailbox is full.

I am not very up to date but I will still take advantage of my period of sobering after holidays to make a small exercise of the balance sheet of my last visit to Pattaya of December 2018.

8 days in total, including 5 days in VLT. Personally I think a VLT in Pattaya is as useful as a car in Paris, we never know where to park it, we quickly enough to always have the same and it costs an arm. The last time she was menstruating, this time she had a flu with fever (not very fit so) she gave me. But hey I always try to persuade me that I'm madly in love with a little bar working girl, it's really anything I know, the day I'm having my slap approaching fast.

On average I see 3 girls a day, 2 days off. Given that I give myself a dog sickness to amortize my VLT we will say that 2 bucks a day seem to be the cruising speed.

The first 3 days I attended the massage parlors during the day and the gogos at night. I completely changed my attitude in the gogos. Previously I spent almost nothing and especially no LD, now I have a real budget on it and also to slip a small ticket in the light dress of the beautiful dancers if they make me a pretty smile.

In total for these 8 days I spent 937,00 € for massages, gogos and VLT and I even made a little extra the last day in Bangkok by going to the airport with a small quarantine well preserved met on Thaifriendly where I just paid the hotel and his taxi. That is 121,00 € per day. It can not be said that I am private although I do not take girls in gogos, much too expensive, I leave that to those who come once a year (as I did before).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2267581]Seems like you are only reading part of my posts. You are missing the part about offering them alternative ways to make money and them turning it down, saying THEIR JOB IS TO FUCK FOR MONEY![/QUOTE]I have read your entire post and that was just one example of one girl who turned down your offer. I'm sure you have some more examples but that doesn't mean they are ALL lazy, like you said. That's just BS.

I agree. They are women who want a better life and choose what they think is best or what works for them. The ones I met were sweet friendly women. If people here think there is something wrong with being a prostitute, then they are just as much in the wrong for going to one.

[QUOTE=DonkeyLeg;2268525]It makes no difference but I prefer to call girls in the P4P business working girls not working girls hookers or prostitutes. I prefer to see them as individuals not as indistinctive uneducated hoards of farm hands from Essan who should be grateful that somebody wants to shag them for 700 baht arguing its twice the minimum wage. For better or worse they take care of our needs, enrich our lives with their company. Some are deviant hustlers but most are nice people. They choose this line of work not because they are lazy they do it for the money. Some need that money badly to take care of responsibilities back home and some just see it as a way to a better lifestyle. Some members understandably see it differently but that's my take for what it's worth.[/QUOTE]