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[QUOTE=HolyTrinity;2226394]Can't PM you because you're new I guess, I'm 37 and speak Spanish as well. I'm trying to move down here and need info so I definitely want to link up, I'm here till Oct 1st for now. This city has too much to offer for short visits. Do me a favor and hit me on whatsapp, its a temporary number anyway, beers on me.[/QUOTE]Hey man,
As soon as I figure out a way to send payment, I'll PM you. My American CC cards are being blocked, and outside of cash, there doesn't seem to be an alternate method like PayPal.
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[QUOTE=Wolf662;2226826]Sure, that is the Mayorista redlight block, it's Calle 85, S side after Carr50 A. It's a block of small bars and short term hotels, more girls there at night and weekends then during the day I believe, I have only been there twice because I stay down in Centro and the Vera Cruz and Raudal blocks are more convenient for me.[/QUOTE]Okay, thanks again. Same general pricing as el Centro?
My to-do list is growing rapidly, haha, but I'll certainly check this area out soon, probably next week.
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ISG Payment.
Having trouble with my American CCs.
Anybody on here want to help me out? I'm happy to send $20 and a little extra via PayPal or the like first if somebody can use their card to purchase a subscription.
Perhaps if I get a taker, the Administrators here will allow me PM-sending privileges momentarily, so we can exchange info and I can send them money. What say you, Administrators? Please take my money.
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Sound Advice JJ
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2226927]
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2. Read the forum to find out how it worked out.
3. Read the forum to learn more.
4. Read the forum for details.
5. Read the forum to learn more.
6.Read the forum.[/QUOTE]That's Sound advice there! When I first joined a couple of years ago, I asked some very basic questions & was promptly told to "RTFF" Well, I kinda got my feelings hurt a little, but went back in the forum chronologically 2 years. I learned sooooo much, that I quickly learned the reason for the RTFF responses. Every question I had was answered in previous posts! I still read on an every weekday basis & still learn quite a bit.
So Jj, I agree that sound advice to anyone would be to read the forum to learn more. I went blue water fishing in El Salvador for Labor Day weekend and at least 75 % of my trip was planned and carried out from intel off of the ES forum & guys on that forum helping me out.
What an awesome Forum!!
El Mechanico.
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[QUOTE=Knowledge;2226831]Facebook does lots of research before launching new services. The choice of Colombia is a tell that they discovered there is already a lot of this activity happening on Colombia centric facebook profiles. If the normal Facebook tracking isn't enough for you, diving into this new service is a sure way to get more of it.[/QUOTE]It is interesting that the application will create a separate profile that will be inaccessible to your current friends on Facebook. The reason why I did not use Facebook in Medellin was so that nothing untoward would come up in my feed. I have read reports of guys creating separate Medellin profiles for the purposes of hooking up. I signed up for Instagram and all of a sudden some of my Facebook friends were following me whereas I was only following chicas found on Tinder and Seeking.
I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.
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Trip Report
So now that I am safely home I will write a detailed trip report. This will not be a day by day report but more of a summary of what I learned in terms of mongering and just living in Medellin. Also I was only in Medellin for 4 days and am a complete newbie when it comes to this scene, so some of my information may be incorrect. I also don't speak a lick of spanish.
First let's get the logistics and non mongering issues out of the way. I landed at the airport at 11:30 pm, at this time there were plenty of taxis to take you back to the city. The cost of a taxi in to the city is around 70 mil. My airbnb host said they could send me a driver for the same amount of money, which I accepted. If you don't have COP on you when you arrive there are ATMs right next to the exit of the airport. The drive into Medellin from the airport is 45-50 minutes long. The airbnb I stayed at was the San Peter Apartments in Laureles for $29 a night. They are nice, clean one bedroom apartments. The only issue I had with them was that their wifi was terrible and the blankets they provide are quite small. They are girl friendly with no fee. A girl could even spend the night with you if you wanted at no extra charge. They just need her cedula. I recommend booking through airbnb rather than [URL]book.com[/URL] as it is $10 cheaper and gives you direct contact with the host. Be warned that if you are a light sleeper they have music on at the bar downstairs until late at night, did not bother me though.
Now for money ATMs are the best way to get your money. They have the best exchange rate, much better than converting at an exchange. If you can find an divienda ATM use that as there is no ATM fee. Bancolombia ATMs have a 13200 COP fee. If you must exchange the one I went to was in the Unicentro Mall called Money Max, they had the best rates at 2755 per dollar, just remember to bring your passport.
Uber is the the #1 I got around. It's super cheap with most trips costing only $2-$3. Plus you don't have to deal with cash. Just remember to attach your Uber payment to Paypal as I found it does not give international credit card fees. Also, the Uber will not come if there are taxis around, so walk to where there are less taxis and meet the uber there. The metro is also very nice and efficient. It is super clean, DO NOT bring any food or drink in there. They will kick you out as they are very anal about cleanliness in there. It is 2400 COP a ride I believe. The give you a card with however many ride you want on it. If it is only one ride or your last ride than you put the card in the slit. If you have more than 1 ride left on the card you just tap in on the screen. Taxis are also relatively cheap, but you have to give cash which is a pain especially with those small amounts. Remember to make them turn on the meter to prevent getting scammed. To to get an google maps and Ubers you need data for you phone. I got a SIM + 4 gb of data for 75000 COP at a Tigo. They need your passport as well. Okay I feel like that covers everything you need to know for a smooth trip.
Now onto the mongering. From what I have read and seen here there are four avenues to getting a girl here. Facebook, strip clubs, casas, and street action. I only participated in the facebook, strip club, and casa scene. If you want detailed information on cost, open times, and location I recommend you ask for permission for the medellin map and download the chica list made by World6969.
Facebook: I had sex with 3 facebook girls. I first friend requested over 200 girls who I thought were working girls, regardless of looks by looking at gringo profiles friends list and who liked their pictures. Go look up a guy named "medellin rich" and add him. His list is full of putas, I don't know if it is one of you guys LOL. Now, of the girls that accepted my request I deleted all of the ones that I did not like in terms of looks. You also get more recommendations since your list is full of those types of girls now. After than I messaged each girls asking "hola amor, estas disponible para conocer? Maybe 50% responded. I then asked how much their services were. Most girls replied with 200-250 mil, some 300 mil, and only one for 150 mil. I could easily get the 300 mil girls to 250 but the 200 and 250 mil girls would not budge. They also all want taxi money. All of them provided BBBJ and kissing. Of them I picked my favorites and asked them to meet at a specific time. Here's some tips when looking at pictures. If they don't show their stomachs and they have kids, they have baby damage. If they look thick in their pictures they are probably even more so in real life, to the point of being fat. No girl will look at as hot as her pictures, these girls are experts at taking selfies. The first girl I had was 200 mil + 20 mil taxi. She had baby damage but had a pretty face and good attitude. The second girl was 250 mil, no taxi. She looked really hot in her pictures but was not as hot in real life. Service was okay, not the best. I regret it. Third girl was the jackpot. She was only 150 mil + 20 mil taxi and was pretty as her pictures. She was very sensual and provided great service. I would have definitely repeated if I had the time. The girls will always be 20-30 minutes late and have the craziest excuses, from there was an 8 car pile up on the street to there was a gas leak in their building and they had to evacuate. It's a hit or miss situation with these girls, but if you find a good one it is worth it. Also to note, do not set up more that an hour appointment with any new girl, especially if you don't speak spanish, it gets awkward real fast if you can't talk to each other. Pros is that if is relatively easy, who just stay home and ask a girl to come. Cons is that it is expensive and you never know how the girl really looks.
Casas: I had sex with at least 8 casa girls, lost count. I have a more detailed report below, but the gist is that it is cheap, girls don't look as good but still hot, expect everything to be covered unless you can spark a deal up with the girl in the room. At most you will pay 50 mil peso for 30 minutes, besides Energy and Loutron. My favorite is New Life as they always had the largest selection of girls and they were also the most attractive. If you don't like any of the girls who can leave, but you might have to pay a 2-3 mil viewing fee. Pros is that they are cheap and you can see what the girls look like and leave if you don't like anything. Cons is that they are in sketchy areas, but if you are relatively cautious and go in the day you should fine and BBBJ is not guaranteed, impossible for me.
Stripclubs: I only went to two stripclubs, fase dos and luna lunera. I prefer fase dos as the cover charge is only 10 mil compared to the 50 mil cover in luna lunera. There are more girls and hotter girls at fas dos as well. These places are just tamer Hong Kong Tijuana clubs, although a bit cheaper. The girls cost 190 mil an hour at fase dos and you take them next door bang. I asked four girls who I found hot if they did BBBJ but every single one refused, even at a 50 k tip. Eventually I took one next door for 190 mil. Remember to bring your own condoms as the charge you for theirs. Sex was terrible, she was rushing me which made it even harder for me to come. Eventually just told her to shut up and pounded away until I came and left immediately. I gave the cleaning lady 2 mil for a tip. The drinks are pretty expensive, I had a coke for 6 mil and a redbull for 24 mil, I recommend sticking with the coke LOL. After every dance the girls come down to collect tips. Only ever give 2 mil, some girls want more just say no. Remember to bring lots of 2 mil bills. They let you grope them and give you a mini lap dance for that tip. They have a smoke machine so if you have breathing problems be aware. Music isn't too loud. Never go before 10 pm, it is dead before than, even if it opens earlier.
Well that was my experience. It was good, but I feel like to have made it amazing I would need to learn spanish. I feel like you can really connect with these girls if you could speak to them, making the sex a lot better. I will be back once I learn spanish and go to the other mongering hotspots, sao paulo and german fkks. Thank you for all the information you guys have provided it was very useful. I hope someone will find this report useful as well.
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[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2227052]Okay, thanks again. Same general pricing as el Centro?
My to-do list is growing rapidly, haha, but I'll certainly check this area out soon, probably next week.[/QUOTE]A bit more then the 30 k VeraCruz girls, more in line with the 40-60 k Raudal girls though they may try to get more from a newbie gringo.
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[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2227146]
Stripclubs: I only went to two stripclubs, fase dos and luna lunera. I prefer fase dos as the cover charge is only 10 mil compared to the 50 mil cover in luna lunera. There are more girls and hotter girls at fas dos as well. These places are just tamer Hong Kong Tijuana clubs, although a bit cheaper. The girls cost 190 mil an hour at fase dos and you take them next door bang. I asked four girls who I found hot if they did BBBJ but every single one refused, even at a 50 k tip. Eventually I took one next door for 190 mil. Remember to bring your own condoms as the charge you for theirs. Sex was terrible, she was rushing me which made it even harder for me to come. Eventually just told her to shut up and pounded away until I came and left immediately. I gave the cleaning lady 2 mil for a tip. The drinks are pretty expensive, I had a coke for 6 mil and a redbull for 24 mil, I recommend sticking with the coke LOL. After every dance the girls come down to collect tips. Only ever give 2 mil, some girls want more just say no. Remember to bring lots of 2 mil bills. They let you grope them and give you a mini lap dance for that tip. They have a smoke machine so if you have breathing problems be aware. Music isn't too loud. Never go before 10 pm, it is dead before than, even if it opens earlier.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.
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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2226917]I'd had trouble here in the past with hardcore puta attitudes, and everyone who has sessioned here knows the rooms are suspect. Yet nightime options are limited in Medellin outside of strip clubs or calling in delivery.
This is the short version. I buy a girl a lady drink and it went well enough. Go to the room and she demands more $ to give a condom BJ to get things started. I asked her for my $ back as I never touched her. She refused.
Went and got the manager and through Google Translate he just kept saying that I should have arranged for the condom BJ in advance. Say what? LOL he thus supported her contention that she should be paid even though no services were provided.
I will not return, and if you decide to visit here I recommend that you keep this report in mind.[/QUOTE]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3.
I feel it's safer to just go with the flow in Centro, I took a VeraCruz spinner up to a room there and she turned out to have the wrong chromosomes, I didn't ask for my 30 k back, I just said never mind and left, not worth causing a scene over $10 amd maybe getting stabbed or beat up over it.
On the other hand I don't secession much at Barra Ejectiva because the rooms are usually too hot or dark for me, Conejitas has much nicer room, and even Maracaibos little rooms aren't as hot or dark.
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[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227152]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.[/QUOTE]Yeah I felt that 50 k was too high, but it was 1 am and I just wanted to make sure I wasnt missing out on anything. Turns out I wasnt. Fase dos was superior.
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In reply.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227163]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3..[/QUOTE]Hi Wolf,
The manager knew the deal broke down before we got started. It was a three way conversation him, myself, and the girl, so the club doesn't have that out. And I know a good bit of Spanish. Most of the conversing was done without translation.
I didn't ask the cost of her upsell. I also have gotten plenty of condom BJs with no upsell in Medellin. That of course is the norm.
I agree with your assessment of the Ejectiva rooms.
I also have gotten refunds at Centro strip clubs on two occasions so "cute" worked fine in those instances. In all cases I've been calm and non-aggressive.
Strip clubs are off my agenda for the rest of this trip. Though convenient if in Centro when the casas close, I have better options.
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To me it looks like Facebook is making a play to replace Ashley Madison. For the sake of guys who get involved with it, I hope the Facebook version plays out differently than Ashley Madison did.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2227087]It is interesting that the application will create a separate profile that will be inaccessible to your current friends on Facebook. The reason why I did not use Facebook in Medellin was so that nothing untoward would come up in my feed. I have read reports of guys creating separate Medellin profiles for the purposes of hooking up. I signed up for Instagram and all of a sudden some of my Facebook friends were following me whereas I was only following chicas found on Tinder and Seeking.
I would still be interested to see if anyone has priced the Instagram model market. It could be the same as the stories of expensive dinner dates and shopping excursions. They certainly did not respond to my offer of 175 k. I found out the night before that one of those I follow on Instagram was a webcam model.[/QUOTE]
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The poor guy got royally screwed at Luna Lunera. I'm sorry to read about them charging a cover. I never paid an entry fee and I can't remember ever even buying a drink, it's optional. You can negotiate the half hour fee down to 110,000 K during off peak hours.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227152]Pretty sure they screwed you at LunaLunera, I have been in and paid no cover but I think it is 10 k also. Also it's cheaper to sit at the bar at FaseII, they usually want you do get bottle service at a table, 120 k and up.[/QUOTE]
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Great advice about going with the flow. It's easy to avoid the Crying Game scenario by just asking the provider "tu eres hembra?" They won't take offense.
[QUOTE=Wolf662;2227163]Basically all strip clubs are clip joints designed to part you with as much of your money as they can and "no refunds".
I recommend non-Spanish speakers hook up with a ISG gringo who does and is in town before hitting the Centro clubs. Nothing says "rip me off" like using google translate.
However I have been there a bunch and other centro strip clubs and covered BJ was always included with no negotiation beforehand. How much did you offer to pay her, maybe she went real cheap with the idea to upsell in the room. Not surprised the club didn't give you your money back (but it's cute you asked) you went up stairs with the girl, for all they know you got off in record time. And a lot of this could have been lost in translation using google. How much did she want for the upsell? If it was 10 k or less you should have just handed over the $3..[/QUOTE]
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Ayura Station area
[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2226679]I meant to ask also: do you know anything about the SW scene near the Ayura station in Envigado? I saw on the badass comprehensive map that there's a seemingly large scene directly to the west of the station. That's walking distance for me! Haha. Just wondering if anybody has any recent news. If not, I will explore and report back soon.[/QUOTE]This is the Mayorista area. There is a Chevy dealership there next to the Ayura station. Walk down the street past the Chevy dealer for about 15 minutes and you will see an area of bars and hotels on your left. You will see SW in that area. Tables and chairs out on the sidewalk if you want to have food or drinks. Overall quality not that great but you may find a chica you like. Most girls working after 10 PM.