Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Oakie;1957913]Lots of Germans like Sosua, too.

But given the complicated way some of our regulars go about getting laid, and the difficulties they report engaging in normal pay for play, I'm not sure some of them could handle the sophisticated hookers they have in Europe.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you mean in regards to European hookers being "sophisticated". In most places in Europe, there is not too much room for haggling, and there is no visible pattern of European prostitutes, trying to take advantage of tourists, (with certain notable exceptions of course, some options are targeted towards tourists). In the bordellos, there is typically a hard, fixed pricing for time and special services. In Germany, these places have websites and pricing online, so you can actually know how much money to take with you (and I have done just that, to avoid being "upsold" Independents aren't that much more flexible). On the German freelancer site, [URL]Kaufmich.com[/URL], you will typically see the girls indicate that prices are not negotiable, and sometimes a stern warning not to even try haggling. You can bargain a bit in the Laufhauses, but last time I was in one, pricing used to be relative to what floor the girl was on (higher floor, lower prices and apparently the rent for room is based on the level).

On the other hand, look at the arguments going on this thread regarding how much to pay a motococho. If cab fare is such a volatile issue, I can only imagine what it can be like for a freelancer haggling to let you invade her body. Not something you would think about in Europe, with its strict meters and typically expensive cab fare. I'm inclined to say Germany, at least, is a good starting point for the entry level monger.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1957505]Hey Oakie,

Missed you brother. The board reflects the decline currently going on in Sosua IMO. Most of us have the great memories of our old Sosua so naturally we will talk about it. Very few good impressions of this Sosua. We have always had posters who take two pages to say two sentences, we have always had arguments, we have always had guys who blame the women and we have always had guy's who appreciate the women. Photos are non -existent anymore, trip reports have been fading. You are correct that it's time to move on but we all still have a place for Sosua in our hearts. I haven't been to Sosua in 8 months when I used to go every month. I have no desire to go in it's current state and I have other spots, but I'm still waiting on a Sosua comeback. Don't take this chit chat on the board to have any real meaning because I don't.[/QUOTE]I meant move on from this board.

But every time I think I've had it, another brother like you Mr. GoGo, comes out with the common sense that got me here in the first place.

We all come to Sosua from different experiences back home, and our values are all over the place. A bargain for a chica to an ex pat who lives there, is not the same as a bargain to a rich guy that escapes a complicated marriage a couple times a year. One expects to pay no more than 1500 or so, but the business man don't have time to fuck around and bargain.

Why should he? He sees something that he wants and if he can get it for 4000 he can't believe his luck. He'll not risk losing her for the price of a hamburger, nor is he about to spend his vacation worrying about other mongers complaining about how much he is willing to pay. It's tough, but it's life, and I have been on both sides of it.

Some guys only get down there a couple times so they splurge, others have to ration their purchasing power. That's normal.

There are so many variables, that to each is own. More than one way to skin a cat.

But I think that dissing putas is for small minds and egomaniacs. We hang with them so we are just denigrating ourselves. I don't think being polite and respectful ever hurt a monger, but I guess it depends on who you like to hang with!

Get a bad session, pull yourself up and move on. It's not TV, it's the Third World.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1957961]... that town up in the hills from Sosua Abajo. Starts with an M. Marinetta?[/QUOTE]Maranatha.

It is Aramaic and (allegedly) means "Our Lord is coming, and he will judge those who have set him at nought" (though that seems rather a lot for one four-syllable word to mean in any language).

I guess I am the first to write Aramaic on this board? (I am sure Tempoecorte will appreciate it).

I imagine the settlement grew up around a church or mission.

Odd how Yanks use the word "town". I remember as a 13-year-old watching the movie "Shane". Most of the action takes place on a remote ranch. They talk a lot about what is going on "in town". The action moves there for the climax and I was shocked to find that the "town" consisted of about eight small buildings.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957515]No, no, no. When you get on the motoconcho, you should tell them where you are going and how much you are going to pay, then if they have any beef with that it can be resolved before the journey is started. Also ask them if they have change and tell them what size note you wish to change. Often the motocochos will be able to get change my hailing other moto drivers and swapping notes with them. The fare from El Batey to Charamicos should be 50 pesos, and 25 pesos from Pedro Clissante to a nearby hotel. Fares are usually double after dark.

It is a good idea to horde small change for such purposes, for example changing larger notes when you go to the supermarket or pharmacy, as they always seem to have change, and also get the smallest possible notes from ATMs. For example you might take out $1900 instead of $2000 pesos, and you will get two bills of $200 each or better still four bills of $100 each. You never get $50 peso notes from ATMs, but you can get them from exchange bureaus or banks, though even the exchange bureaus are stingy with them.

Anyway, bottom line is tell them how much you expect to pay upfront to avoid problems. Don't ask them how much the fare is, or you are just asking to be suckered into overpaying..[/QUOTE]I think somebody should tell these folks that hiring a ride is not a complicated process for most adults.

I can see why they have such disagreement on how to treat a hooker, or actually get laid in a brothel.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957515]No, no, no. When you get on the motoconcho, you should tell them where you are going and how much you are going to pay, then if they have any beef with that it can be resolved before the journey is started. Also ask them if they have change.[/QUOTE]Is this really a conversation between two intelligent veterans?

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1958062]Maranatha.

It is Aramaic and (allegedly) means "Our Lord is coming, and he will judge those who have set him at nought" (though that seems rather a lot for one four-syllable word to mean in any language).

I guess I am the first to write Aramaic on this board? (I am sure Tempoecorte will appreciate it).

I imagine the settlement grew up around a church or mission.

[/QUOTE]Well, it probably means, 'Come, O Lord' and the rest of the rubric is wishful thinking on the part of the faithful. The "atha" part comes from the same root as the word "theist". As you suggest, the settlement was founded by evangelical missionaries. The link below will tell you a bit more about the history of the place.

[URL]http://www.thesamaritanfoundationdr.com/villages/maranatha/[/URL]

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1958062]Maranatha. [/QUOTE]There is a Brazilian evangelical church (fairly recent) in my town, called Maranatha Church. It was an odd name but did not think anything of it and the only connection I had made was with Amaranth. Speaking of my stupidity. Aramaic, wow! Wasn't there a Mel Gibson movie on Christ, where all spoke Aramaic?

[QUOTE=MrGogo;1957505]Photos are non -existent anymore, [/QUOTE]Here you go brother. A small photo sampler.

1 - Sosua, 2 - Santiago, 3 - SD, 4 - GBP in SD, 5 - Sosua.

Had a marvelous time with each and every one of them last month. "Bug infested 3rd world shit hole" DR, I wish I knew how to quit you.

For all the guys buying phones for chicks:

[URL]http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshh7C7PL01g283N7T4S[/URL]

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1958111]Here you go brother. A small photo sampler.

1 - Sosua, 2 - Santiago, 3 - SD, 4 - GBP in SD, 5 - Sosua.

Had a marvelous time with each and every one of them last month. "Bug infested 3rd world shit hole" DR, I wish I knew how to quit you.[/QUOTE]Back at you Parkinson's with Boca chica and San Pedro.

[QUOTE=Tempoecorto;1958103]There is a Brazilian evangelical church (fairly recent) in my town, called Maranatha Church. It was an odd name but did not think anything of it and the only connection I had made was with Amaranth. Speaking of my stupidity. Aramaic, wow! Wasn't there a Mel Gibson movie on Christ, where all spoke Aramaic?[/QUOTE]'Maran atha' in Syrian Aramaic means 'you lord' (lord in the meaning of 'influential rabbi). That's it.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1957452]You were in Sosua, you all knew she was not a "date", she was a working girl out on the town at night looking for men to have sex for pay. In your previous post you said you "almost felt sorry for the lady" until you remembered how many times you personally had been stood up by chicas. Now you are saying that none of you gave a fuck how she felt, because you were all disgusted at the way she hit on you all as soon as Dick ran off to get some extra pocket money from his mama, when as far as you were concerned she was promised to Dick. You do not make it clear if any of you were attracted to her or not. If you weren't, then leaving her for Dick was no sacrifice on your part. So Dick comes back with the money, and all of a sudden poor Dick is "too tired" or maybe he has a headache. Whatever!

It is not clear how long the chica was distracted by this episode, but obviously she saw it as a waste of her time, and it would have been disappointing for her to think she had a sale and then to find that she didn't have one, some time after midnight when some potential customers would already have gone home or selected other partners, and that she might not have the two or three thousand pesos to pay her bills tomorrow unless she gets lucky and finds someone else.[/QUOTE]FYI, Sherlock. I happened to bump into the guy yesterday in front of Sosua Suites. I had a question I wanted to ask him since the recent posts emerged over his behavior.

I asked him, how did that chica end up coming with him into the restaurant? He said when us 3 left Merengue Bar, he stayed behind a few minutes to talk to someone, and then left. On the sidewalk in front of Merengue Bar, that chica started talking to him, and started walking along side of him, campaigning hard trying to get business. "Sound" familiar? It aint but a few steps from Merengue to the German restaurant. She followed him into the restaurant. And pulled up a stool next to him. So, she wasnt his date like we all thought. He did not invite her into the restaurant, and he never told her he wanted to be with her, nor did he say come with me. Her deciding to come into the restaurant uninvited was ALL on her.

Knowing this, a few things make sense. One, he never bought her any drinks, he never ordered any food. So there was never any expectation that he was buying her food. Her behavior? Since he did not invite her, she invited herself into the restaurant, her talking to us and trying to secure a customer makes much more sense than her blatantly going after one of us, when we all assumed she was with him. His departure to secure more money, was just him needing to get money. He wasnt responsible for her, and he wasnt leaving her. She was on her own. She stayed, because she thought she still might turn him into a customer. She gambled and lost. And in typical local fashion, she was pissed or disappointed because her plan back fired. Many locals do not take responsibility. They get mad when they dont get what they want.

When the dude came back and saw her still there and acting like she was waiting for him, that's when he felt he needed to respectfully tell her he was tired and maybe another time. Now since you are a Frannie, I'm sure you will probably say, he should have told her he wasnt interested when she was on the street or when she followed him to the restaurant. That would be a good question or point. . But I know how it is sometimes when chicas do that. Approach you on the street trying to be persuasive, and at the same time you don't want to brush them off like they are a piece of shit. So you kinda let them try to get their sales pitch in, figuring they will eventually move on. Perhaps he thought by going into the restaurant, he would have ditched her, and he wouldn't have to say anything. Instead, she followed him into the restaurant. Maybe he thought she would bounce once he left to get money? If she had left on her own, problem solved.

Let me recap for you super sleuth. No monger owes some chica his time or payoffs if he did not invite the woman to sit with him, did not buy her food or drinks. He is entitled to leave the restaurant to go get money from his hotel, come back and hang with his buddies. That chick entered the place as a free agent, and left as one, entitled to talk to anybody she wanted to, including any of us. Her getting pissed, is her fucking problem. Disappointments are just part of the game, we all have to deal with it. Since I have been enlightened further, I have amended my perspective of both of them.

In conclusion, I make no apologies for supporting my fellow mongers, as well as my friends any day. The theme of my posts is, Bros before Hoes. We need more men to stand up for other men, their interests, their motivations, and their perspective. IMO that's one of the reasons men in America (and other places in the world) are catching hell with their women. Men before us, gave women too much power, authority, and undeserved benefits It's out of fucking control. And now men want to bring their fantasies and emotional needs abroad, so they can be exploited here. They won't be happy until women abroad turn into AW clones. Sadly, it's becoming a sausage fest of more and more men caring more about female interests than their own, or their brothers in common. Yes some may say, "naw man. I'm standing up for principle, I don't care who is wrong. If a man is wrong, he's wrong. If a woman is wrong, she's wrong".

Of course anybody can see that when we make those types of statements, oft times they are fallacies. Everywhere you look we (me included) ALL are walking contradictions of individuals supposedly standing up for principle. How we generally operate? We operate by the standard. Where we stand on the issue depends on where we sit. Which means, we change and bend rules and where principles apply as we see fit. We do things undercover, and then act like we are superior to others. (yes I have done it, and still do it unwittingly). There are no one standard of principles to follow. It's decisions, POV and outcome. Thats the reality of life. Now Mr Frannie, you want to offer some more judgemental perspective, have at it. Just remember, you are included and aint no different than anybody else.

[QUOTE=Questner;1958141]'Maran atha' in Syrian Aramaic means 'you lord' (lord in the meaning of 'influential rabbi). That's it.[/QUOTE]I was impressed with Charles Pooter. With you, I am impressed even more. I who know nothing but the name of that archaic language.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=CharlesPooter;1958062]Maranatha.

It is Aramaic and (allegedly) means "Our Lord is coming, and he will judge those who have set him at nought" (though that seems rather a lot for one four-syllable word to mean in any language).

I guess I am the first to write Aramaic on this board? (I am sure Tempoecorte will appreciate it).

I imagine the settlement grew up around a church or mission.

Odd how Yanks use the word "town". I remember as a 13-year-old watching the movie "Shane". Most of the action takes place on a remote ranch. They talk a lot about what is going on "in town". The action moves there for the climax and I was shocked to find that the "town" consisted of about eight small buildings.[/QUOTE]Thanks for correct name and spelling.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1958111]"Bug infested 3rd world shit hole" [/QUOTE]Please note that I use those terms with a great deal of respect and endearment as some of the best experiences in my life have come in bug infested Third World shit holes. Leticia, Colombia comes immediately to mind. I cannot believe it has been almost forty years since I fucked a hooker on a blanket on the ground outside a brothel there for a mere $2 US. But I am getting a bit long in the tooth now, and kind of appreciate being able to flush the toilet paper as opposed to throwing it in a (bug infested) bucket.